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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Hosted by Nathan Latka · EN
What if you knew data behind the fastest growing SaaS companies today? Each morning join Nathan Latka as he spends 15 minutes interviewing SaaS founders. You'll learn how SaaS CEO's launched their startup and grew it into a real SaaS business. SaaS Founders range from bootstrapped to funded, MVP to 10,000 customers, pre revenue to pre IPO.
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Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC — Mike Zisman
3d ago00:18:42Summary readyHow do you build a $53M ARR software company, stay profitable for eight straight years, and give 60% of the cap table to your employees — without ever taking a venture check? Mike Zisman is the founder and CEO of Golf Genius, the dominant tournament management and handicapping platform for golf clubs worldwide. He self-funded $10M of his own money as interest-free debt, did 10 acquisitions before hitting $60M in revenue, and today sits on $14M cash while printing 20% EBITDA margins with 300 employees across the US and Cluj, Romania. You'll learn: Why Mike structured his entire $10M founder investment as debt instead of equity — and how it created a tax shield that paid him back on the way out How the USGA handicapping contract in 2019 transformed Golf Genius from a niche club tool into the infrastructure layer of global golf How Golf Genius went from $0 to $1M ARR in 8 years, then from $1M to $53M in the next 8 — and what the USGA relationship had to do with the inflection point Why 50% of his 300-person team are engineers based in Cluj, Romania — and how that structural cost advantage funds 20% EBITDA while competitors burn cash The exact three-phase acquisition strategy: legacy desktop customer rollups, league expansion, then B2C mobile apps with 8M+ users How Mike negotiated the GolfShot acquisition — and why he forced their entire cap table behind a single LLC before closing Why employees own 60% of the cap table at $53M ARR and how that drives 6-7% annual attrition across the entire company including Romania What Mike would say if a PE firm offered $400M all cash today — and why he says he's more excited about what's next than he's been in years Why he thinks AI will make SaaS companies radically more productive, not obsolete — from a founder whose doctoral thesis in 1977 was already on artificial intelligence The rule of 40 reality at $53M ARR: why growth slows as companies scale and what Mike does to stay above the 10% industry average Connect: YouTube: youtube.com/@NathanLatkawatch Golf Genius: golfgenius.com Founderpath: founderpath.com
Summary$28M Series A at $100M Val: The Pest Control SaaS Nobody Saw Coming
1w ago00:21:21Summary readyHow do you build a $100M SaaS company by charging apartment residents $5 a month to keep rats out of their bedroom? Justin Clements is the co-founder and CEO of PestShare, an on-demand pest control platform embedded inside property management software. He bootstrapped from 2019 to 2020, raised just $5M over two rounds, then closed a $28M Series A at a $100M valuation in 2025, the same year he crossed $10M ARR. You'll learn: — Why PestShare's revenue model is structured like a warranty, and why that makes it nearly impossible to churn — The difference between contracted ARR and live ARR, and how that gap almost killed their valuation story — How embedding into the lease instead of selling direct to residents creates structural GRR that VC-backed competitors can't replicate — What it actually took to raise at 10x ARR from an investor that only backs 9 companies at a time — Why Justin's Series A investor pushed him to take $3M in personal secondary and why he says it made him take bigger swings — How IGP's PE background forced a full COGS and gross margin rebuild right after closing the round — Why "if you don't see pests it means the product isn't working" is the exact wrong way to think about pest control retention — How PestShare went from $1M (2022) to $5M (2024) to $10M (2025), doubling every year with under 1x ARR in prior capital raised — What property managers actually pay vs. what residents pay and how PestShare navigates that split without losing either side — Why Justin chose a hyper-concentrated, low-profile fund over a brand-name VC, and what they got in return Connect: YouTube: youtube.com/@NathanLatkawatch PestShare: pestshare.com Founderpath: founderpath.com
SummaryHe Lost $50/User to Build a $30M ARR AI Empire (Fathom)
2w ago00:24:44Summary readyHow do you go from 0 to $30 million in ARR in just 3 years while purposely losing money on every single free user? Richard White is the founder and CEO of Fathom, a free AI meeting assistant used by hundreds of thousands of professionals daily. After running UserVoice for nearly two decades, Richard entered the hyper-competitive AI transcription war against giants like Zoom, Otter, and Firefly. Instead of playing the traditional VC game, he gave the product away, lost $50 per user, and built an absolute rocket ship that dominates through bottom-up distribution. You'll learn: — Why purposely losing $50 per user per month was the ultimate growth hack. — The 5-step framework to sequence risk (Retention -> Onboarding -> Acquisition -> Referral -> Monetization). — How to hit $100k MRR in your first 30 days of monetization. — Why Richard hired three enterprise salespeople before writing a single line of code for the premium product. — The exact strategy to gamify fundraising by reserving 15% of your Series A for your users. — Why open data, MCP servers, and local agents are replacing walled-garden SaaS models. — How to scale to $30M ARR by pricing bottom-up teams at $25 per seat. — The reality of stepping down as CEO from a $10M ARR company after 18 years. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UavacWr2jbQ Connect with Richard: https://fathom.ai/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryHow 1Mind Hit $1M in 3 Months Selling $100k AI Sales Agents
3w ago00:25:08Summary readyHow do you hit $1 million in contracted revenue in three months and achieve 211% net dollar retention in your first year? Amanda Kahlow is the founder and CEO of 1Mind, an AI platform building go-to-market superhumans that replace SDRs, AEs, and sales engineers. You'll learn: - How to sell AI software for $100,000 to $400,000 using flat subscription pricing instead of metered models. - The unit economics of replacing 89 SDRs and 19 sales engineers with a single custom agent. - How they maintain 80 to 90 percent SaaS margins while running heavy LLM operations. - The strategy behind 1Mind's 600 percent year-over-year growth rate. - Why most enterprise customers purchase a second AI agent within 90 days of going live. - How 1Mind uses their own AI agent to source 78 percent of their eight-figure pipeline. - The reality of managing founder dilution and secondary sales after building a $380 million business. - Why AI agents are expanding past chat interfaces and joining live Zoom calls to run product demos. Amanda is a three-time entrepreneur who previously founded and served as CEO of 6sense, scaling the company through multiple funding rounds and a $380 million valuation before stepping down. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lFX0n3uYTkw Connect with Amanda: https://www.1mind.com/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummarySelling Check for $400M, Now Building a $1.5M ARR AI Startup
May 600:24:18Summary readyHow do you build a $1.5 million ARR enterprise AI platform after previously selling a fintech startup for nearly $400 million? Ahikam Kaufman is the CEO of SafeBooks AI, an agentic data automation platform for the office of the CFO. You'll learn: - How to charge $125,000 ACVs by pricing against the cost of an accounting headcount. - Why the company raised a $15 million seed round just to build their initial data architecture. - How they landed a $300,000 engagement in their first year of going to market. - The exact strategy Ahikam used to distribute $25 million in retention bonuses during a past acquisition. - Why building a proprietary graph database is the only way to prevent AI hallucinations in finance. - How SafeBooks scaled to 15 paying enterprise customers. - The economics of automating the quote-to-cash process across disparate CRMs and ERPs. - How to manage founder dilution while building a venture-backed tech company. Ahikam is a veteran fintech executive who previously co-founded Check, which he scaled and sold to Intuit in 2014 for nearly $400 million, creating over 10 millionaires in the process. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JQA3RX9PsHw Connect with Ahikam: https://safebooks.ai/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryHow Flossy Reached $4M ARR With AI Dental Receptionists
Apr 2900:17:40Summary readyHow do you survive shutting down during the pandemic, pivot a heavily funded business model, and rebuild a team of 8 into a $4M ARR AI powerhouse? Miles Beckett is the CEO of Flossy, a verticalized AI receptionist that automates patient booking and engagement for dental practices. After successfully building and exiting two previous startups for tens of millions, Miles raised a $15M Series A for a dental discount plan. When the market shifted, he pivoted the company entirely to voice AI, made hard cuts to the team, and found explosive product-market fit. Today, Flossy is growing 60 to 70 percent month over month. You'll learn: Why vertical AI agents beat general tools like Intercom How to sell $500/month software to PE-backed roll-ups The reality of firing 30 people to save a company's burn rate How a $1 million breakup fee saved a past acquisition deal Why they rejected a theoretical $40 million buyout The math behind adding $100,000 in new ARR each month How they used a $3M seed round to survive 2020 lockdowns The mechanics of multi-location enterprise SaaS deals Miles is a seasoned operator who previously built and sold Equal to Everyday Health for $30M, and Silver Sheet to AMN Healthcare, before diving into the dental tech space. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RAjHVdHZM Connect with Miles: https://www.flossy.com/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryFlip Reaches $12M ARR with AI Voice Support for 250 Brands
Apr 2200:24:34Summary readyHow do you pivot a banned college ridesharing app into a voice AI company handling 300 million customer service calls? Brian Schiff is the co-founder and CEO of Flip, a verticalized AI voice assistant that automates customer service calls for transportation, retail, and healthcare brands. After realizing their Cornell ridesharing app was a dead end, Brian and his co-founder Sam pivoted into voice AI. Today, Flip automates up to 90 percent of routine support calls for over 250 enterprise companies and recently raised a $20M Series A at a $100M valuation. You'll learn: How to successfully pivot a failing startup model Why verticalized AI beats horizontal platforms How to implement usage-based pricing at $1.50 per call Why "listen mode" is their best sales tactic How to maintain 75 percent gross margins with AI Why they rejected a theoretical $150 million acquisition offer How to select the right industries for expansion Why competitive B2C markets are best for AI tools Brian started his entrepreneurial journey at Cornell's eLab accelerator. He navigated the near-total collapse of transportation revenue during the pandemic to build a highly efficient business growing 3X year over year. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/gtFt5exyCaI Connect with Brian: https://flipcx.com/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryKadence Reaches $15M ARR Managing Hybrid Work for Revolut & Boeing
Apr 1500:20:32Summary readyHow do you completely reboot a dying hardware startup, restructure a heavy cap table, and pivot into a SaaS product doing $15M ARR? Dan Bladen is the co-founder and CEO of Kadence, a workplace operations system coordinating people and spaces for hybrid work. After realizing his wireless charging startup was a "vitamin, not a painkiller," Dan pivoted during the pandemic to help companies like Nasdaq, Revolut, and Boeing manage their office space. Today, Kadence serves over 600 enterprise customers. You'll learn: How to manage board expectations during a hard pivot The exact mechanics of resetting a cap table for new investors Why shifting from SMB to enterprise accelerated revenue How they achieved over 130 percent net dollar retention Why seat-based pricing still works in the enterprise The math behind saving half a billion dollars in leasing costs How launching SpaceOps AI drives multi-product expansion Why high-ticket dinners replaced SEO for customer acquisition Dan started his career managing technology for a church before founding his first IoT business. He moved his family to the Bay Area just before the pandemic forced him to rethink his entire company operations. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2ySF3YMDcnY Connect with Dan: https://kadence.co/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryHow Buildern Reached $2M Revenue With 300 Customers | Hmayak Tigranyan
Apr 800:18:03Summary readyHow do you build a construction SaaS to $2M in revenue with just $500K raised and get 95% of growth from SEO? Hmayak Tigranyan is the founder and CEO of Buildern, a construction management software platform serving around 300 customers and generating roughly $2M in revenue today. The company helps residential and commercial builders manage finances and workflows, and it is doing about $160K in monthly revenue with roughly $40K in monthly profit. What makes this business interesting is that it scaled in a legacy industry without paid acquisition or outbound. Buildern built an inbound engine around high-intent SEO, stayed profitable, and is only now adding a sales team as ACV moves closer to the range that can support quota-carrying reps. You'll learn: How Buildern found an underserved construction software niche. Why Hmayak shut down a $3M dev shop to go all in on SaaS. How the company raised just $500K and sold only 10%. What $160K in monthly revenue looks like at a $40K profit level. Why 95% of revenue came from SEO-driven inbound. How Buildern chooses long-tail keywords in construction. Why transparent competitor comparison pages rank well. How internal SEO execution beat the need for an agency. What changed once the company started hiring sales reps. How pricing moved from roughly $6K ACV toward $7.5K to $8K. What AE quotas and compensation look like at this stage. How a profitable vertical SaaS company scales with a global team. Hmayak came into Buildern after years in SaaS development, travel software, and running a dev shop that peaked at about $3M in annual revenue. He launched Buildern in 2021, spent the first two years without paying customers, then used industry-informed angels and product iteration to find the right shape of the product. This episode is for founders building in old industries, operators trying to scale efficiently, and investors who care about profitable SaaS growth. It is a useful masterclass in vertical SaaS positioning, SEO-led demand generation, and disciplined capital use. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/An0n18v4j8E Connect with Hmayak: https://buildern.com/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
SummaryHow Allo Reached $10M Revenue With 5,000 Customers
Apr 100:22:36Summary readyHow do you grow an AI phone system to 5,000 customers and roughly $3M ARR in under two years while still aiming for $10M in revenue this year? Jeremy Goillot is the founder and CEO of The Mobile First Company, which launched Allo as its first product. Allo is an AI phone system and dialer for small businesses, now serving around 5,000 customers with average revenue above $160 per month and a goal of reaching $10M in revenue in 2026. This business is interesting because Jeremy did not stop at a self-serve PLG motion. He started there, saw the churn and activation issues, then layered in demos, lead routing, CRM-based qualification, and expansion to raise ACV and improve retention. The result is a high-volume SMB SaaS business built on strong distribution, fast onboarding, and clear activation metrics. You'll learn: Why Jeremy moved from pure PLG to a sales-assisted motion. How Allo increased average revenue from $18 to over $160 per month. The exact activation metric that predicts churn. How the team uses demo routing based on CRM and team size. Why retargeting was one of the cheapest acquisition channels. How Allo won SEO with long-form content and original screenshots. The keyword prioritization system behind their content strategy. Why 50% of new revenue now comes from expansion. How the team thinks about CAC quality instead of lowest CAC. Why Jeremy raised early without waiting for a co-founder. How he kept about 50% ownership after raising around $20M. What it takes to sell into SMBs at high volume with only 17 people. Jeremy previously led growth at Spendesk before starting The Mobile First Company. He launched the company as a solo founder, raised a $5M pre-seed on his own, then built the team around him while keeping significant ownership. His long-term goal is not just one product, but a broader suite of vertical SaaS tools built under separate brands. If you care about SMB SaaS, PLG versus sales-assisted growth, SEO-led distribution, or building a multi-product software company, this episode is a masterclass for SaaS builders. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PUZMvjyS3xw Connect with Jeremy: https://www.withallo.com/ Connect with Nathan: https://founderpath.com/
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