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In our final episode of 2025, Dave Lewis, global advisory CISO for 1Password, joins Greg Otto to unpack the “access‑trust gap”: the growing mismatch between what employees (and tools like AI assistants) can access at work and what security teams can actually see, verify, and control. Dav explains how this gap shows up in everyday ways—logins that bypass intended controls, personal devices used for work, and teams adopting apps or AI tools faster than IT can govern them—and why that combination creates quiet but serious risk. You’ll hear practical advice on narrowing the gap with stronger identity checks, smarter device trust, cleaner SaaS governance, and simple guardrails for safe AI use that don’t crush productivity.

In this episode of Safe Mode, Jim Dolce, CEO of Lookout, reveals that 40% of phishing attacks now target mobile devices—yet CISOs are drastically underspending on mobile security compared to email protection. Jim demonstrates how AI-powered attacks have become devastatingly effective, showing how his team created a voice-cloning impersonation attack in 15 minutes that fooled over half their employees into surrendering credentials, bypassing even multi-factor authentication. He explains why credential theft is now the #1 attack vector, costing $4-5 million per breach, and how modern smishing attacks use scraped social media data to craft hyper-personalized messages that are nearly impossible for humans to detect. Jim's urgent message: enterprises must protect mobile devices with the same rigor as email systems, using AI-powered defenses to combat AI-powered threats.

Rebecca Krauthamer, CEO of QSecure, joins Safe Mode to delve into the rapidly shifting landscape of quantum computing and cybersecurity. The conversation covers the latest government and industry responses to the quantum threat, the urgency of adopting post-quantum encryption, and practical metrics for agencies and organizations. Listen in as the complexities and urgency of preparing for “Q-Day” are unpacked, offering key insights for policy makers, technologists, and anyone concerned with data security’s future.

On this week’s Safe Mode, Greg welcomes Jason Pufahl, VP of Security Services at Vancord. Jason shares deep insights into the evolving managed security landscape, focusing on challenges faced by small and mid-sized businesses and the practical fundamentals they need for strong cybersecurity. He also discusses the evolving role of CISA and the importance of making threat intelligence and resources broadly accessible to help organizations of all sizes strengthen their cybersecurity posture.

In this episode of Safe Mode, Betsy Cooper, founding director of the Aspen Institute’s Policy Academy, details a new initiative designed to mobilize ordinary citizens as cybersecurity policy advocates. The Cyber Civic Engagement program, supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies’ Take9 campaign, offers virtual training sessions to equip participants with effective communication techniques, policy writing know-how, and access to one-on-one advocacy coaching. As digital threats multiply, Cooper argues that community storytelling and grassroots engagement are essential tools for prompting government action and ensuring critical local services are protected.

This episode of Safe Mode features a nuanced conversation with Ben Harris, CEO of Watchtower, who delves into the complexities of vulnerability management in today’s threat landscape. Harris discusses why traditional patching is no longer a guarantee of security, revealing how sophisticated attackers are staying persistent even after organizations update and remediate systems—particularly in the challenging context of edge devices and black-box appliances. Drawing on real-world research and recent incidents involving vendors like Oracle, Cisco, and Avanti, the interview highlights the urgent need for resilience, increased transparency from companies, and a cultural shift toward proactive detection.

In this week's episode of Safe Mode, Greg Otto talks with Brian Carbaugh, CEO of Andesite, who reveals how lessons learned in the CIA are transforming Andesite’s unique, human-first approach to AI-driven cybersecurity. Carbaugh shares behind-the-scenes stories about building a “bionic SOC,” where cutting-edge artificial intelligence works seamlessly with analysts, amplifying their skills, streamlining investigations, and making security operations not just more efficient but genuinely exciting. In our reporter chat, Greg and Matt Kapko dive into a week's worth of critical vulnerabilities and government emergency directives, and how enterprises have responded in kind.

On this episode of Safe Mode, Greg Otto sits with two CISA leaders, Chris Butera, Acting Executive Assistant Director for CISA’s Cybersecurity Division, and Bob Costello, CIO of CISA, at the 2025 Black Hat USA Conference to discuss numerous different topics: the recent Microsoft Sharepoint vulnerability, the upcoming CIRCIA rulemaking, the future of the JCDC, state and local cyber grants, and the emphasis they are placing to strengthening public-private partnerships. In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Matt Kapko about what they both heard during their conversations at the Black Hat conference.

On this episode of Safe Mode, host Greg Otto sits down with Daria Bahrami, Head of Policy at Dreadnode, for an in-depth exploration of the new AI Action Plan and its sweeping implications for critical infrastructure security. From the technical hurdles in securing vital systems to the growing need for “secure-by-design” technology standards, Daria breaks down what’s at stake as artificial intelligence becomes both a linchpin and a potential liability in our national cyber defenses. In our reporter chat, Greg talks with Tim Starks about the motion on Capitol Hill to confirm CISA Director nominee Sean Plankey.

In this episode of Safe Mode, Greg talks with Tom Pace, CEO of Netrise, about the recent Salt Typhoon cyberattack against U.S. telecom networks and how the government is responding. Tom explains why it’s so hard to fully protect or fix these giant, complex systems, even when officials say they have stopped the threat. He points out the tough choices telecom companies face—like keeping service running, following regulations, and fixing security gaps—which don’t always work together. The conversation also covers problems with current rules and why spending more money isn’t always the answer. Listen for a straightforward discussion about what it will really take to keep our communication networks safe.