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Safety FM with Jay Allen
Hosted by Safety FM · EN
Safety FM with Jay Allen delivered 777 episodes from May 2018 through November 2025, featuring candid conversations with safety leaders, operational thinkers, and innovators reshaping how work gets done. The show explored Human & Organizational Performance (HOP), safety systems, culture, and the real dynamics behind everyday work.
Across seven and a half years, Jay Allen mixed interviews, insights, and signal-sharp commentary designed to cut through performative narratives and bring clarity back to the conversation.
The show has concluded its run, but all 777 episodes remain available here as a complete archive for listeners, students, and practitioners who want to revisit the ideas that transformed the safety space. If you are looking for Jay's current, ongoing broadcasts, be sure to check out the Rated R Safety Show.
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EP 777 - Goodbye for Now
Nov 2100:14:46Tap to summarizeAfter seven years, 777 episodes, and more than 72.3 million listens, Jay Allen sits down behind the microphone one last time for Safety FM with Jay Allen. This is not a quick sign-off, not a fade-to-black, and not an ending without gratitude. This is a moment of reflection—an honest, heartfelt thank-you to every listener who made this show part of their routine, their workday, their commute, or their learning journey.In this final episode, Jay opens up about why the time has come to close this chapter, how the show has evolved, and why the next phase of Safety FM lives within The Rated R Safety Show and Jay Allen in the Morning. He speaks directly from the heart about the interviews, the guests, the community, and the people who became part of the story along the way.This episode is a celebration—a tribute to the conversations that changed perspectives, challenged systems, and connected people from all corners of the world. It’s a moment to pause, breathe, and acknowledge a journey that started as an idea and grew into something far bigger than anyone could have predicted.And while this is goodbye for now, it is far from the end. Jay’s voice, curiosity, and commentary continue elsewhere on the network. This is simply the closing of one door and the gentle opening of another.The episode concludes with “ Crossroads at the End of All Things,” an original track created together just days ago—an emotional, fitting final note for a show that has always been about connection, humanity, and the stories behind the work.Thank you for the listens.Thank you for the years.Thank you for being part of this chapter.Here’s to what comes next.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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EP 776 - Inside “The Stability Trap” – Todd Conklin on Safety, AI, and the Illusion of Control
Nov 1800:28:02Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jay sits down with Dr. Todd Conklin for a deep dive into his newest book, The Stability Trap: How Safe and Stable Organizations Still Find Ways to Fail and What To Do About This Problem. Together, they break down why even the most mature, stable safety systems are far more fragile than they appear—and how organizations unintentionally squeeze out the very capacity they rely on to prevent failure.Todd shares how a conversation with David Woods sparked the initial idea, how the economy and pressure for shareholder value are influencing safety margins, and why organizations must rethink what “stability” actually means. They also explore how AI unexpectedly shaped the book’s ending, why AI won’t replace safety professionals, and how tools like NotebookLM can reorganize our thinking and reveal blind spots we didn’t know we had.The two dive into the pitfalls of “Drive to Zero,” middle-management pressure, worker complacency narratives, brittle systems, pandemic lessons, wearables, and the paradox of calling a safety program “mature.” If you’re in safety, operations, leadership, or you simply care about how real work gets done, this conversation offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at where the field is heading next.A thoughtful, honest, and wide-ranging conversation you won’t want to miss.
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EP 775 - Mini - Crossroads
Nov 1400:12:57Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Safety FM Mini, host Jay Allen explores the moments in our careers and lives when we arrive at a crossroads — those pivotal points that demand a decision about where we go next. Jay challenges listeners to think about how they choose their direction: what drives their decisions, what influences them, and how they evaluate whether the path they’re taking is the right one.It’s a short but powerful reflection on awareness, intention, and growth — a reminder that every choice shapes the journey ahead.🎙️ Safety FM Mini — because sometimes, all it takes is a few minutes to spark a change in perspective.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Transcribe →EP 774 - The Mirage of Progress
Nov 1100:16:08Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we explore the illusion of progress that often hides beneath corporate slogans and safety rebrands. Jay dives into why many organizations confuse change with true transformation — trading new posters and buzzwords for the hard, humble work of learning, listening, and leading differently.From AI and hybrid work to shifting definitions of safety itself, this episode challenges you to ask: Are we really moving forward, or just painting over the same cracked wall? Real progress isn’t found in dashboards or TRIRs — it’s in trust, humility, and the uncomfortable questions that remind us we’re still alive and still learning.🎧 Press play and rethink what “moving forward” really means.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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EP 773 - Mini - Pain Points
Nov 700:13:09Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Safety FM Mini, Jay Allen dives into the often-overlooked pain points within organizations — those persistent issues that seem to linger without resolution. Jay challenges leaders and teams alike to pause and truly listen to the people doing the work, as they often hold the insights needed to identify and solve recurring challenges. Whether it’s communication gaps, process breakdowns, or cultural barriers, this episode encourages a reflective look at how collaborative listening and feedback can lead to meaningful improvement.Because sometimes, resolving pain points starts with one simple act — listening.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Transcribe →EP 772 - Surveillance, Safety, and the Illusion of Trust
Nov 400:17:15Tap to summarizeIn this repurposed segment from The Rated-R Safety Show, Dr. Jay Allen explores how technology designed to “keep us safe” has evolved into systems that monitor, measure, and manage every move we make.From AI-driven productivity trackers to digital safety dashboards, organizations are chasing data at the expense of trust — confusing control with care. Jay examines what happens when observation replaces connection, and when the illusion of safety becomes more important than the experience of being safe.This conversation challenges leaders to rethink what safety really means in a world obsessed with measurement — and reminds us that while systems can track behavior, only people can build trust.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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EP 771 - Mini -Let It Be Caught
Oct 3100:16:29Tap to summarizeToday we take a turn and do something a little different on Safety FM Mini.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Transcribe →EP 770 - When Data Disappears: Breaches, Cover-Ups, and Lessons Learned
Oct 2800:19:48Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we start with breaking news about a massive Gmail data breach affecting over 183 million users—and then take a hard turn into the workplace realities that mirror this kind of digital disaster. Jay shares a personal story from his career involving a major organizational data loss, the decision to hide it, and what that says about integrity, transparency, and leadership in the face of failure.From cybersecurity warnings to lessons about accountability, this episode explores how the way we respond to breaches—digital or organizational—shapes trust, culture, and credibility.🎙️ Originally featured on The Rated R Safety Show. Stream it now on Safety FM.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Transcribe →EP 769 - Mini -Take a Pause for the Cause: Prioritizing Your Mental Health
Oct 2400:14:21Tap to summarizeIn today’s Safety FM Mini, Dr. Jay Allen reminds us that sometimes the most important safety focus is ourselves. From burnout to stress, mental health plays a crucial role in how we show up in every part of life. Jay shares a timely message on why taking a moment to breathe, reflect, or reach out can make all the difference — and introduces Rula, a service making high-quality therapy affordable and accessible for everyone.Thousands are already finding support through Rula. Visit Rula.com/SAFETYFM to get started and let them know Safety FM sent you. You deserve mental healthcare that works with you, not against your budget.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Transcribe →EP 768- The Day the Cloud Fell: Lessons from the AWS Outage
Oct 2100:16:04Tap to summarizeWhen Amazon Web Services went down, so did the digital world — from Disney+ and Reddit to airlines and even McDonald’s. In this episode of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we dig into what really happened during the three-hour AWS outage, how a single point of failure brought global systems to a halt, and what it teaches us about redundancy, resilience, and risk in your own organization.This show is brought to you by Safety FM — where we talk about the things that matter, even when the servers crash.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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