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Kimberly Donovan on Geopolitics and the Emerging Axis of Evasion
May 6, 202500:22:12Tap to summarize‘As we start to piece this all together, we found that there were certain trends and typologies that were very similar in terms of how China was working with Russia, as well as how China was working with Iran, and then just kind of shaping out this broader network of actors.’ In the latest episode of the Sanctions Space Podcast – recorded at the ACAMS Hollywood Assembly - Justine is joined by Kimberly Donovan, director of the Economic Statecraft Initiative within the Atlantic Council’s GeoEconomics Center. They discuss geopolitical trends and the interrelation with sanctions compliance - including the emergence of an ‘axis of evasion’ network utilizing techniques such as barter trade to circumvent sanctions restrictions - and how modern financial crime fighters need to increase their understanding of the evolving geopolitical environment in order to build it into their programs. Prior to joining the Atlantic Council, Kimberly served in the federal government for fifteen years, most recently as the acting associate director of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network’s (FinCEN) Intelligence Division and FinCEN’s chief of staff and senior advisor to the director. Read Kimberly’s full bio here. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/kimberly-donovan/
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Marshall Billingslea on U.S. Sanctions Policy and Priorities
Mar 12, 202500:29:50Tap to summarize‘I think that the administration is prudently reviewing the sanctions to determine what measures could be eased, in what sequence, in the event that Russia does prove amenable to negotiations. I, for my part, believe that we will have to go down the path of additional punitive measures first.’ -Marshall Billingslea on potential sanctions easing on Russia In the latest episode of the Sanctions Space Podcast, Justine is joined by Marshall Billingslea, Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute. They discuss how the second Trump administration may be thinking about the use of sanctions and economic statecraft and what listeners should be prepared for. This includes the potential for relief - or indeed intensification - of U.S. sanctions on Russia, the increased use of tariffs, the restoration of maximum pressure against Iran, and how the administrations' fentanyl strategy is likely to play out. Marshall Billingslea is a Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute, prior to which he was the special presidential envoy for arms control at the US Department of State, holding the rank of ambassador. Before joining the State Department, Mr. Billingslea served as the assistant secretary for terrorist financing at the US Department of the Treasury, and in 2018, he was selected as president of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF). You can read more about Marshall’s background here. https://www.hudson.org/experts/1358-marshall-billingslea
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Edward Fishman on the Age of Economic Warfare
Feb 18, 202500:27:33Tap to summarize‘We’re living in an age of economic warfare. Sanctions, export controls, tariffs – they’re now the primary way that states compete with one another.’ In the latest episode of the Sanctions Space Podcast, Justine is joined by Edward Fishman, author of Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare and a senior research scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy, among other roles. They discuss the latest U.S. - Russia negotiation headlines, the importance of leveraging sanctions relief as a diplomatic carrot, how the use of tariffs in economic warfare is evolving, plus what may be next for U.S. sanctions on China and Iran. Find out more about Edward’s new book here. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/726149/chokepoints-by-edward-fishman/
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Dan Wang on China
Sep 18, 2020Tap to summarize‘China has always taken seriously industrial policy and some degree of import substitution, and these US actions are now really kicking that effort in to high gear’. In this, our first Sanctions Space podcast episode, Justine Walker is joined by Dan Wang, Technology Analyst at Gavekal, to talk about China’s role as a science and technology powerhouse, the impact and response of recent US sanctions on Chinese tech companies, and how ‘technology travels at the speed of beer’. Dan is a widely cited author on China’s technology progress and how it is affected by US sanctions – you can find his bio and article archive at https://research.gavekal.com/author/dan-wang.
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