Tyson Fedor (3:42)

Well Tara, this stretch of road behind me very busy. And for 12 year old Bentley St. John Tuesday morning changed his Life. As he was walking across that marks crosswalk behind me, he did everything right. He looked both ways for oncoming traffic. That's when he was struck by a vehicle in that crosswalk and a warning was caught on video. And we're about to show you some of that video and it could be disturbing to some viewers. It's just after 7am Tuesday morning. Bentley St. John is crossing in a marked crosswalk on Terradel Drive northeast before a white four door sedan with tinted windows hits him, knocking him to the ground. The vehicle quickly breaks and then takes off.

Bentley (4:26)

I'm like pretty mad about it.

Tyson Fedor (4:28)

St. John was taken to hospital with a broken leg.

Bentley (4:31)

When I got like into the middle, I got like my leg got ran over and I. And I broke three bones.

Tyson Fedor (4:45)

But after he was hit, three vehicles go around him in the crosswalk.

Wes (4:49)

He almost has to crawl and roll out of there before anybody even acknowledges the fact that he was hit by a vehicle.

Tyson Fedor (4:55)

St. John is hurt, heard screaming and rolling away from traffic to get out of the road before three bystanders come in and eventually help.

Bentley (5:03)

So we got hit and then he pulled over, got me some warm blankets so I can like stay warm.

Tyson Fedor (5:14)

St. John's sister Jaden says she was horrified to learn that her best friend was left stranded and in pain.

Jaden (5:21)

I ended up breaking down in tears. My brother is my best friend. I think the part that hurt me the most was you see him physically rolling himself away in the video and just trying to get off the road and people are going around him.

Tyson Fedor (5:36)

Calgary police released images of the vehicle on Thursday. Investigators are asking the public to track down the driver by looking for this white four door sedan. A make and model is not known as for St. John, he is recovering at home on the couch with his blue leg cast.

Bentley (5:51)

I hope this doesn't like happen again.

Tyson Fedor (5:54)

As for his family, they have a stern message for the driver.

Wes (5:57)

I guarantee, you know, you hit somebody,

Jaden (6:00)

stop your car, you know we're looking for you. You know the whole city's looking for you. Just show up and take accountability.

Tyson Fedor (6:06)

Tyson Fedor, CTV News, Calgary.

CTV News Anchor (6:10)

Investigators are asking anyone with information or dash cam footage from the area to call police or Crime Stoppers again.

Wes (6:17)

This is an important show for me and I hope you stick around and I'll return tomorrow night. But for tonight, if you would indulge me for a moment.

Alex (6:36)

Hello?

Wes (6:37)

Hey Alex, it's Wes with Sasquatch Chronicles. How are you holding up, ma'? Am?

Bentley (6:42)

Wait, who is this?

Alex (6:45)

You're on, you're on speaker, by the way.

Wes (6:48)

Hey, Bentley. Just the guy I wanted to talk to. This is Wes with Sasquatch Chronicles. How are you doing, young man?

Bentley (6:56)

Good.

Wes (6:57)

You know, your dad had sent me an email saying you guys are fans of the show and asked me if I would give you kind of a shout out on the show. And I was sitting there thinking, shout out. I want to meet Bentley. I watched the video, Bentley from CTV News, and as a father myself, it was hard to watch. I can't believe the person in the white car didn't stop. That coward knew he hit you because you kind of see him stop and pause for a second before driving off. And I agree with your sister, Bentley. Watching these scumbags drive around you as you lay in the crosswalk really was disgusting. But it was really amazing to watch you have the presence of mind and the sheer willpower to roll yourself out of that crosswalk. You're trying to get out of there as quickly as possible so people don't run you over. And I thought, I bet this kid's an Albertan.

Bentley (7:57)

Yep, I am.

Wes (7:58)

Yeah. I knew it. Albertans are kind of like normal Canadians, just more badass. They're the Canadians you don't want to mess with. You know what I'm saying, Bentley?

Bentley (8:07)

Yeah.

Wes (8:09)

Seriously, though, I'm beyond impressed with you. I would have just kind of laid there in the crosswalk yelling, medic. I would not have been as strong as you, Bentley, or even showed the courage you displayed. You know, that's not something you can teach someone. It's kind of like in your warrior DNA. And I know you're in pain. I get it. But always remember, you know, pain heals, chicks dig scars, and courage lasts forever. Plus, it's on video. Anytime anyone gives you any crap, you can replay the video for them and be like, you know, when you're in Trouble, you call 91 1. When I'm in trouble, I am 91 1. I'll rescue myself. How are you feeling today, bud? I mean, how are you doing?

Bentley (8:55)

A bit squatchy.

Alex (8:57)

Watchy.

Wes (9:00)

You feel squatchy?

Bentley (9:02)

Yeah.

Wes (9:05)

Where were you headed to when this whole thing happened?

Bentley (9:08)

To school. It was in the morning.

Wes (9:12)

Oh, wow. It looked cold there, too. What was the temperature when you were out there?

Alex (9:19)

Yeah. Minus 10.

Wes (9:21)

Yeah. That's cold. That would be about 14 degrees Fahrenheit. How long did the doctor say it would take to kind of heal?

Bentley (9:29)

Like six weeks.

Alex (9:32)

It's six to eight weeks. Yeah, because his. His cast goes from his thigh to his toes, so it's six to eight weeks before he gets it cut. Down to below his knee. He still. We don't know how long he's going to have the cast on below that, but it's just six to eight weeks for that portion to come off.

Wes (9:54)

And what do you got to do to, like, put a bag over it to take a shower?

Bentley (9:58)

Um, yeah.

Wes (10:00)

Well, keep your head up. You know, I broke my ankle once. I'm embarrassed even telling you this weak story after what you just went through. But when I broke my ankle, it was pain on a different level. It took, like, a year to heal, and I milked the crap out of that. I milked the crap out of that injury, especially around beautiful women. You know what I'm talking about?

Bentley (10:25)

Yeah.

Wes (10:26)

What are you doing with your downtime?

Bentley (10:29)

Just watching some shows.

Wes (10:31)

Oh, nice. What do you like watching?

Bentley (10:36)

Sonic. And I'd like to listen to your Sasquatch podcasts.

Wes (10:43)

Oh, thanks so much, Bentley. That means a lot to me. I really do appreciate it.

Bentley (10:48)

I have a question for you.

Wes (10:50)

Yeah.

Bentley (10:51)

Is there Sasquatches, like, in, like, Canada?

Wes (10:57)

Yeah, Sasquatch kind of has a long history in Canada. I would say it even has a longer history than what we have in the States. I get many reports out of Canada, and even the name Sasquatch comes from Canada. So, yeah, they're definitely there, and there's a long history of them.

Bentley (11:15)

I actually have been drawing, like, pretty good Sasquatch pictures.

Wes (11:22)

Oh, you have to send me one, Bentley. I'm somewhat of an artist myself. You know, when I was your age, I loved to draw. And no one in my family is artistic, really, besides me. My family's made up of cavemen, savages, and stormtroopers and possibly pirates. But I had this natural ability to draw, you know, and I really enjoyed it. I mean, I was drawing before I could recite the Alphabet. One of my earliest memories was watching Sesame street. And after it was over, I sat down and kind of drew every character from memory. I remember I drew a big bird smoking a cigarette because I thought it was hilarious. Plus, he kind of had that annoying voice, so I kind of took him as a smoker. And I remember I got in trouble for that. You know, when it comes to Sasquatch, would you want to see one?

Bentley (12:19)

Yeah.

Wes (12:21)

Well, tell me, Bentley, after listening, what kind of episodes kind of stand out to you?

Bentley (12:26)

Just like the Curious George one.

Alex (12:29)

There was one time you had. I think it was Bob Garrett. Were talking to him, and I think it's called Gold Mine or Gold Miner.

Wes (12:39)

Oh, yeah, I know which one you're talking about.

Alex (12:42)

Yeah, he was Talking about the getting picked up and. Yeah, the compassion part of it, how they have compassion. And that was one of them. The Curious George, the boy that was going camping and he got lost. He told his parents that Curious George picked him up and brought him back to camp.

Wes (13:03)

Yeah, sometimes they show up with compassion, and it kind of throws you off. I know you guys have heard the show with Tommy, from talking to Alex and, you know, him being abused and a sasquatch saved him. You would think it wouldn't go that way with these things. You would think that you're in real danger. But, you know, most of the time, I don't think that they attack people as much as some people might think. And it's kind of crazy that, you know, the audience seems to know the show better than I do. I wanted to tell you, Bentley. You know, when I was a kid, I visited Canada. My family went to Victoria, Vancouver, and it was absolutely stunning. And I'm not so sure BC is quite the same place today. I remember as a kid, but we drove to a couple places in Alberta. We rode horses at some ranch, and there was cowboys everywhere. We visited the oil fields for some reason. But I remember asking my dad, are we still in Canada? Do we drive to Texas? I mean, I had no clue that Canada actually had cowboys. You know, I'm just a kid when I was there, but I loved it. I would say the one thing I remember the most about Canada, not so much Alberta or B.C. or, you know, the landscape. I think what I remember the most was, you know, the people, you guys, the Canadians. Very warm, kind people, treat you like family. Let me ask you, Bentley, just because I'm curious, if you could travel the world or even someplace in Canada, where would you go?

Bentley (14:49)

Bands probably, like, in the mountains, because it's way more closer and always want to see a Sasquatch.

Wes (14:58)

Yeah. Like I was saying, you know, that whole area through there, Banth. I've had many, many people come on the show and share encounters from that area. If you talk your dad into it, you'll have to come back on and let me know if anything happened. You know, earlier we were talking about, like, shows that stood out to you. Do you have a favorite one?

Bentley (15:21)

I would say one where, like, this guy, he, like, was. He was in a parking lot, and he was like. And something hit the car, like, at the back. When he got in, he was hiking in the mountains, and there were people going past, like, saying, like, there's lot of weird things in the mountains.

Wes (15:50)

Yeah, I'm trying to Remember that one, Bentley? Do you remember which episode that was?

Bentley (15:55)

No, but he said, like, that, like, there was this tree where it looked like it was moving. He said, like, he, like, dragged off when he saw it.

Alex (16:12)

Usually I'm pretty good with remembering which episodes he's talking about, but that one, I'm drawing a blank.

Wes (16:20)

Yeah. If you find that episode, would you let me know, Bentley? I mean, just because I don't remember, it means very little. Like I said earlier, the listeners know the show better than I do. You know, we were kind of talking about the rich history of Sasquatch in Alberta. What do you think Sasquatch is?

Bentley (16:42)

I would say it's like. It's. I think it's more of a map, just how it walks and, like, how it learns and how to eat and hunt.

Wes (16:58)

Yeah, that's a good observation, Bentley. You know, a lot of their. Even their behavior reminds me more of a man most of the time than an animal. Don't get me wrong, they'll act like an animal, but there's a lot of times where I'm like, man, that sounds like something a human would do. You know, there's a lot of mysteries in this world, and the UFO topic has been pretty big lately. And I'm sure you've seen it on YouTube. And do you think aliens are real?

Bentley (17:28)

No.

Wes (17:30)

What is it that you think people are seeing?

Bentley (17:32)

I just think it's like airplanes and stuff.

Wes (17:36)

Yeah. Could be misidentification, but I'm not so sure about that. Is Bigfoot kind of your favorite cryptid?

Bentley (17:45)

Yeah.

Wes (17:46)

What about dog, ma'? Am? Yeah, he's okay, too, in your book. Yeah, yeah, I hear ya. You know, I know that the whole incident with the car was about a week ago. Did you at least get some time off school?

Bentley (18:04)

No.

Wes (18:05)

Yeah.

Alex (18:05)

You haven't been back to school yet.

Wes (18:07)

Yeah, you would think you at least get some time off of school. Did they give you kind of a time frame on when you can go back or when you have to go back?

Bentley (18:17)

When I get a wheelchair.

Wes (18:19)

Yeah. Well, don't worry. I mean, you'll be healed up in no time and be back in action and just kind of a blip on the radar at the moment, you know what I mean? I wanted to ask you, Bentley, throughout your life, what's kind of the best gift you've ever received or given?

Bentley (18:38)

I think talking to you right now.

Wes (18:41)

Oh, you gotta get. You gotta have a better gift than talking to me.

Bentley (18:46)

You actually are the best gift.

Wes (18:49)

Oh, thanks, ma'. Am. That means a lot to me. Bentley. Thank you for that. You know, I kind of got a get well package for you. I'll probably get it sent out Monday, but it's a bunch of gear and merch, and I'm gonna send it to you and your dad. It's all the stuff I personally like from the store. And it's just kind of a get well package. You know, a gift from me to let you know I'm thinking about you and praying for you. And God saved you for something special. Young man. You're going to do great things with your life. I know it in my heart.

Bentley (19:23)

So what's a get well package?

Alex (19:26)

You have to find out, Ben. It's a surprise.

Wes (19:29)

Oh, yeah, it's just kind of a gift package. Kind of a gift from me to you, Bentley. You won't be disappointed. Did you get any street cred from your boys when they found out what happened to you?

Bentley (19:43)

Yeah, they were mad about it.

Wes (19:48)

Yeah, well, I don't blame them. It made me mad, too. In the same breath, you're kind of iron Man. You know, outside of invincibility, which you seem to have mastered by the age of 12, if you could have one superpower, what would it be?

Bentley (20:05)

Eon.

Wes (20:07)

Oh, wow. That's really a thoughtful answer, Bentley. I had more of a selfish answer, like flying. That was a very cool answer, though. And again, I hope you heal up. Is there anything I can do for you?

Bentley (20:22)

I. I do not know.

Wes (20:25)

Well, your dad has my cell phone number, and you're welcome to call me anytime. You know, this incident that happened to you, Bentley, I think it'll make you stronger throughout your life. And I think you'll look back at this moment, it'll definitely change you, but I think it'll be more for the positive.

Bentley (20:44)

Yeah.

Wes (20:45)

If you don't mind, I wanted to ask you, how did it kind of affect you?

Bentley (20:51)

I think, like, it just like, from all the, like, badness in the world.

Wes (20:58)

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought too, Bentley. I mean, my first thought was, like, how could you hit a human being and keep going? And then to see the people, like, drive around you as you lay in the crosswalk. It shocked me. I can't imagine doing something like that. The only positive thing about the video really is you, Bentley. And, you know, the courage that you showed. And I admire you. You know, I know you're kind of waiting for your wheelchair so you can go back to school. Do you have a favorite subject?

Bentley (21:36)

I do not know.

Wes (21:38)

What's a subject that is kind of

Bentley (21:39)

your least favorite I would say math.

Wes (21:46)

Yeah. You and I are actually a lot alike, Bentley. You know, in school, I loved history, but I absolutely hated math. I was terrible at it. And I'll tell you a quick funny story. We were not allowed to use calculators. You know, in school, my teacher would always say something to the effect of, like, what do you think in the future people are going to walk around with calculators in their pockets? You need to learn how to do this in your head. And my much older brother, who I talked about in a member show, the same guy who taught me how to swim. It's kind of a tragic and hilarious story, but I'll save that for another time. He had somehow acquired a box of calculator watches. Have you ever seen those before?

Bentley (22:35)

Yeah.

Wes (22:36)

Yeah. These were expensive watches back in my day, and I was told not to ask any questions about how they were acquired. He gave me one, I think, to kind of keep my mouth shut. And I wore it to school, and I got busted with it on in math class, and the teacher took it away from me. I'll tell you what, the next time I saw that watch, it was a few days later. The principal was actually wearing it. Yeah, I never got my watch back. But, you know, that principal seemed to really enjoy wearing my watch. It's like some corruption in the public school system. But anyway, that's my story. I'll let you get back to resting. And it's been a real pleasure to meet you, Bentley, and thank you so much for taking my call.

Bentley (23:30)

Thank you.

Wes (23:32)

And, Alex, thanks so much for setting this up today. You kind of made my day. I really enjoyed chatting with both of you guys.

Alex (23:40)

Yeah, I'm so. I appreciate. And I'm grateful for you calling, and I just wanted to see the smile on his face because I knew that that would make him smile. And you just went so many steps further, and I'm really grateful for that.

Wes (23:59)

Yeah, well, it was the least I could do. How are you holding up, ma'?

Alex (24:03)

Am?

Wes (24:03)

You got a strong, strong kid.

Alex (24:06)

Yeah, he is strong. You know, I keep on thinking, you know, like, sometimes you go and. And you wish you can take something back or. Or if you see somebody like, oh, I. I don't care if they catch the guy, as long as, you know, it's like a redo if, you know, And I think that's exactly what it was like. He got away with a broken leg. Well, in three spots. But other people aren't as lucky, and it's. It's a tragedy. It's hard to even think about. And I think that we're lucky that it's only a broken leg. And if they catch a guy, great. If not, I'm not too worried. I'm just grateful for what we have now.

Wes (24:51)

Yeah, I've watched that video over and over and over again and it bothers me. And I would imagine being you're his father. It, you know, take my feeling and times that by like a million. I don't really understand. You know, like here in town there's areas where it's really, really dark and it's not well lit. And then you have someone dressed all in black. And I've had a few moments where I was like, oh, it's like I didn't even see that they were there. Thank God I never hit anyone. But I don't really get that driver. You know, it's not like they're doing 50 miles an hour through there. It's well lit Bentley. He looks left, he looks right and he takes his time going through the crosswalk. I mean, I can't figure out if they were on their phone or what.

Alex (25:44)

Yeah, I've got some ideas, but I wasn't there, so I really don't know. A lot of days in. In the morning here in Calgary or there in Calgary you get frost on your window. So if you're. If you're lazy, you don't scrape it. So I think maybe he had like an area where he can see out of. But not very clearly. Right. So it's, it's, you know, he could have missed Bentley that way. I don't know what kind of car it was. It looked like a really nice car. It. And that's one of the things that's hard about this is you're looking at it, you're trying to identify it. You're almost obsessed with trying to find out what car it is just from the blurry picture. But anyways, it could have been like the blind spot where the corner where the windshield meets the side of the car. That part that goes down from the roof to the. Where the hood is that. I thought maybe Bentley as he walked, he stayed in that sort of blind zone so that he couldn't see. And eventually, you know, like it was at that point where he got hit. I really don't know what the situation was. And it's. It's tough. Is tough, man.

Wes (27:09)

Yeah. And I think that is a reasonable explanation. The part that bothers me when you watch the video, that guy knew he hit something because he stopped and kind of like Paused for a second and you could hear Bentley crying. And then he takes off. And that just might be, you know, one major scumbag out there. But what really shocked me about that video was watching all of these cars just drive around Bentley when he's laying in the crosswalk like, what the hell's going on in Canada, man?

Alex (27:45)

Good question. I really don't know. It's.

Wes (27:52)

Yeah, and I don't, I don't want you to think I was bashing Canada. That probably came out all wrong. That could have happened down here in the States. I guess I was just shocked. I. It's not the Canada I remember, you know, it shocked me.

Alex (28:09)

You know, I think it's, it's culture. It's driver's culture. I see people speeding down the highway, and I'm not talking 4 or 5 kilometers over or even 10, but I see people driving just insane speeds on the highway. Right. So it's just driver culture. I want to say if the police were giving more tickets for, you know, excessive stuff like that, maybe we wouldn't have that. But then that doesn't explain why people don't stop. It's just, it's hard. Maybe it's a wake up call too. Maybe that's almost bad to say, but it, maybe that had to happen for people to come to their senses and say, hey, what the hell did I just do? I went around this kid, you know, and maybe next time they'll stop. Hopefully there's not next time, but maybe next, the next incident where they, they, they have to think about stopping or keep driving and maybe they, they will stop. You know, it needs to change. That's all. I know. It does need to change.

Wes (29:23)

Yeah, it does. I agree with you. You know, I called to cheer you up, Alex. I feel like I'm bumming you out.

Alex (29:30)

No, no, I'm cheered up. I am, I'm very happy that you called it, but it put a smile on my face as well. And even my girlfriend here, she was videotaping and she had to take off, but he was videotaping for the longest time. And I bet you I had as big of a smile on my face that Ben had. So I'm very cheered up. Don't worry about that.

Wes (29:57)

I appreciate you saying that. The other thing I wanted to ask you about is I have a hard time believing that was the only camera that captured that car. I mean, there has to be more cameras that got a license plate that got that car. Do you know, are the cops kind of looking at other cameras in different angles.

Alex (30:20)

Yeah, they actually. That's the only one I know of. Right. Because. Well, me and his mom aren't together. We haven't been together for a while, but we get along really well. So the day it happened, I was driving to work from another town outside of Calgary. And she's in Calgary, so she phoned me right away, but she headed down there to. It's like a couple of blocks away from the house and, you know, to be with him. And so she knew. She was shown the camera footage and she was able to go to the. To the house and request it, you know, being sent to her and everything. But the police, they. When they released photos of the car, it was like there was one photo taken of the passenger side of the car. So obviously they've gone to different houses looking for footage. You know, those doorbell cameras, they're good in a way, but then, you know, like any distance, it's. It's hard to make out license plate numbers, so it's tough. It's almost like you have to sort of backtrack where he came from to get a really good picture. Not everybody has doorbell cameras here. I wish they did, but it's. It is what it is.

CTV News Anchor (31:48)

Yeah.

Wes (31:48)

You know, I would imagine the laws are kind of the same between the states and Canada in a situation like this, but I don't know. So I'm kind of speaking out of turn. But, you know, if you strike someone and drive off and cause bodily harm and being that Bentley is, you know, a child, he's a minor. I'm sure you're looking at several. Several felonies, you're going to prison for a while. Do you think this is a situation where the RCMP would get involved?

Alex (32:23)

No. The city of Calgary has their own police force and they work with the rcmp. It's not like they're rivals or anything like that, but it would fall under the jurisdiction of. Of the Calgary Police service. So I don't think they would look into it unless it was something that was more of a federal issue.

Wes (32:46)

Yeah, like I said, you would think this would be more of federal charges as opposed to, like, provincial charges. I mean, I could think of like four felonies that were committed. I'm sure if I brought a cop on, he could probably tack on another four or five or more. You would think because it's more like a federal charge, the RCMP would get involved. But again, you know, I don't know.

Alex (33:12)

Yeah, no. Though the Calgary Police service would uphold the, you know, the federal law and Everything like that. It's just, you know, where it took place. I mean, I, I. You know, funny you mentioned that. I have no idea what the difference would be if it. If the RCMP were to investigate it. I don't know if it would turn out differently, but I doubt that it would.

Wes (33:38)

Yeah, I'm gonna put that video and screenshots of that car on my blog, and hopefully someone can kind of recognize it. I have kind of a large listener base in Alberta. God bless Alberta, by the way. But I really hope someone kind of recognizes that car because, you know, it's not like It's a Honda CRV that everyone and their kid brother has within 30 miles. That car kind of stands out. Maybe not in Alberta, but I can tell you in Washington, that car would stand out big time. And I hope they find whoever did this and punish them.

Alex (34:17)

Yeah. In this. I know for the city, at least the city. I'm not sure about the entire province, but we're not supposed to have the front, you know, like, the passenger and the driver door. We're not supposed to have those windows tinted or if. If you do. I. I don't know if it's zero tint or up to a certain percentage or whatever they base it off of, but, yeah, those windows were fully tinted. You couldn't see in. So that might help in identifying it, because if it's. If it's illegal, then not a lot of people would have that, and it would just be more of a. It would narrow it down a little. A lot more, I guess I would think. It's tough.

Wes (35:07)

You.

Alex (35:07)

You do. Like. I do feel like I want. I want justice, but at what cost? Should I be emotionally bound to making sure that he gets justice? He. Sorry. He or she get justice, or should I just count my blessings that it's not worse and Bentley's here with me and just go from there? Because it's so hard to choose between the two. You don't want people to get away with it, especially as a member of the community. You don't want other children or adults, anybody, really, to have to go through the same thing. You want them to feel that they can cross the street without worry. And if people do that and they don't stop and they just take off, it's like a slap in the face.

Wes (36:09)

Yeah. I would stay positive and obviously be there for Bentley. Like, you have been, you know, like a good dad. And I understand what you're saying. You know, you can easily be consumed by rage and revenge, and I get it. I Get where you're coming from. I would. Stay positive as best you can. And I'm telling you, man, I haven't watched that video as many times as. As you have. And I don't know if you believe in God or not, but watch him as he enters that crosswalk. I mean, somebody was watching over him.

Alex (36:48)

Yeah. If you watch. I've watched that video so many times. You know, it's just. It's really weird. You see Bentley, look, he looks both ways and then because there's a car turning just ahead of the car that hits him. So the car's turning and he still. He's looking to make sure it's safe even after that car. And I don't know if it's. He sort of paused a little bit, you know, or slowed down load his walking speed. And I think that's because, you know, if he didn't do that, he would have been in the more in the path of that car. And who knows what could have happened, how it could have turned out. So it's. Yeah. When you mention God, a lot of people don't believe, but sometimes you just. There's things that you can't explain. And the fact that he slowed his walking pace and looked like he got brushed by the side of the car, you know, it could have been a lot worse. And how do you explain that? Why. Why would he slow down like that and. But still get hit? You know, like. Doesn't make any sense except for the fact that someone was watching out for him.

Wes (38:07)

Yeah, and I picked up on that too. It's almost like Bentley becomes like very, very self aware and he does kind of slow down. I would have been the idiot that just kind of ran into the crosswalk and would have been hit by that car. And just the way he reacts, it's like someone's watching over that kid. And then, you know, I was telling Bentley about when I broke my ankle. I don't think I could have ruled out of that crosswalk. You know, he can't stand up, can't really crawl. And he like rolls himself out of that crosswalk to avoid cars. I can't think of too many adults that would even do that or even. It's like a miracle man watching that video.

Alex (38:55)

Yeah. Because not only did the driver drive away, you know, he had. There were so many people that just drove right on by. And it's not like it's like a plastic bag or something or like a. You can see it moving. You know, it's somebody that got hit and they just went right around them, you know, just drove right on by. I just hope that that's, that's a wake up call. You know, the first, first driver that went by, they made decision, the decision to do that. And then the next driver thought, okay, well, that guy drove by. Maybe I should too. I don't know. I, I just want there to be more compassion. I. It's almost, it's almost, you know, like we were talking before. You know, Sasquatch have more compassion than people do.

Wes (39:52)

Well, I'd like to follow up with you guys in a few weeks just to see how you guys are doing and.

Alex (39:58)

Absolutely.

Wes (39:59)

Wes, kind of a side topic. What got you into Bigfoot, ma'? Am?

Alex (40:03)

Oh, that's. You know, I was wondering if I'd ever answer one of your questions like this. It started probably around when Bentley was born. Everybody was listening to podcasts and they're like, oh, you should listen to a podcast or something. So I'm like, well, what the hell do I listen about? And the first one, I settled on the topic of Sasquatch or Bigfoot, and I can't remember who the first, the first one was. He's not a bad guy. And I know you've had him on your, on your, on your show. I can't remember when, but it's almost like his. I know you, you guys edit stuff, but it's just with him, it was, it was more like it was obvious that he. Everything always ended with like the same way. They said goodbye or something like that anyways. And it's not that he was a bad host or anything. It was, it was just not for me, I guess. But then I found your show and I've watched it ever since or listened to it ever since. I like Bob Garrett, Bob Gimlin, Bill Sheehan, and then Bobo. I remember you having Bobo and the other guy, Cliff, and, you know, just a lot of the different people that you've had on and you know, Claire from the uk, Anything with the doc. Oh my God, what a he. He almost seems like he's like, he's a grandpa to me, you know, like he, he's got that. I don't know, maybe it's the way he talks. It's just he's got that voice that's just so comforting. And you learn a lot from him.

Wes (42:03)

Yeah. You know, when John died, I mean, I was absolutely crushed. And I think the reason why I get so emotional talking about John Barnagle is, you know, my dad was kind of an older guy and he Was much closer to john's age. So I didn't really get the grandfather thing. My father was completely opposite of john and john. You know, it has nothing to do with bigfoot. In fact, our relationship really didn't have anything to do with bigfoot. We rarely ever talked about bigfoot, and if we did, there would be 45 minutes of him wanting to know, how you're doing. How are you? How you know, Tell me what's going on in your life. Tell me. He just cared. I didn't really have that growing up, but john would always ask, how you're doing? And he just taught me to be a better man. Has nothing to do with bigfoot. He just taught me to be a better man. And I loved him. And, you know, even when john was dying, I never heard him complain once about anything. And we all knew he was dying. I never once heard him. Poor me. I never once heard anything negative come out of his mouth. It was always about you. He always wanted to know how you were doing. He always wanted to know how. How he could help you. And I remember one of the things he told me, and it really applies today More than. More than ever, he would say, you know, wes, when dealing with the subject and when dealing with people, Always do it with class. There's no class left in the bigfoot world. Be different, make more of a positive impact. And, well, you know, I would like to say I try to live up to that standard, but there's no way I could live up to john standard. I mean, he was something special. He really was a good man. And, you know, maybe one day when I'm gone, People will say, you know what? That guy was a pretty nice guy. That's all I really want to be known for. I don't want to be known for bigfoot, And I'll never live up to it, But I try. But, yeah, he was. He was a good man. I miss him.

Alex (44:49)

I'm gonna have to interrupt you there, wes. I think you know john before your show. I think obviously he knew his stuff and everything, But I think as soon as he came on your show, you, were the conduit. You were the one that. I mean, before your show, I'd never heard of the guy. You know, when you say the. You know about class, Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember you saying that you had no experience Hosting shows like this before. So I know that you are one of the most classiest hosts that I can think of. So when you say that you can't live up to It. I think you've lived up to it and more there, Wes. And just for, you know, as me being one person that, you know, listened to your show and learned about John, there's countless others that haven't, you know, that you haven't talked to and that you have talked to. I'm pretty sure that most, if not all of your, I'm gonna say subscribers, but you know, the members, you know, they know about John because of you. And, And I bet you everybody that's ever heard any of one of John's episodes on your show, they've heard him because of you. So you might not have been the one that, you know, brought all the science to it, but you're definitely a big part of bringing him, you know, his. His voice and his, you know, all of his education towards it, towards Sasquatch, bringing it out to people. So I'm going to have to let you resume, but please say that you've got the class. You're. You're one of the classiest guys I know, especially, you know, that. That host shows like this. So, yeah, I'll let you continue.

Wes (46:56)

Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. It means a lot to me and thank you for that. I think, you know, I just knew John too well, and I know that's not true. John was. John was a man, and John was a huge giant in this field before he ever came on my show. Make no mistake. I, you know, I'm still a nobody, but even back then I was more of a nobody. And John really was a giant in this subject. But, you know, thank you for that. You know, I was telling Bentley about. We were talking about Alberta and, you know, B.C. and Canada and how many accounts actually come out of there. And you're only a couple hours away from Banff. What do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take?

Alex (47:49)

Okay, so I think, like, I'm not too familiar on the Nephilim or anything like that. I do believe in God, but I haven't read the Bible and, or studied the Bible to the point where, you know, I've heard about the Nephilim and that kind of thing, so I'm just going to leave that part out of it. I'm not too educated on that. But, you know, I think about where, you know, the first nations, you know, or Native Americans or however you want to describe them, where they came from. They came from the land bridge between, you know, Alaska and Russia. So. But they. I believe that, you know, they came here and. And I think that Sasquatch was already here. So maybe they came the same way because, you know, they got in Asia, Europe. It's all over the world, right? So how did they get here? I think they got here from the land bridge. I think it's maybe, you know, before the Native Americans or first nations, maybe, you know, centuries before or, I don't know, maybe the same time. I have no idea. But I think that it's kind of the same now, what they are. I want to say that, you know, it's, you know, from. From the tree, from the family tree. You know, humans are. Are one branch. And I think that, you know, before, you know, today there was another branch that came off of that same branch, and maybe that's where Sasquatch is. I think they're maybe not, you know, like somewhere in between a gorilla and a human. Like, it's, you know, I think gorillas, they. They're. They're very secretive, and they don't want anything to do with humans. And I think Sasquatch is the same thing. I believe they're pretty much nocturnal, so that. That reduces even more the chances of sighting them. I believe they bury their dead so you don't really see bodies unless you go dig up the forest. But I really don't know. I believe that they're just a branch off somewhere in the tree. Actually, I do have one question for you. How many people have hosted a podcast for that long? I guess I'm wondering. I wonder if anybody else has been wondering, how long do you plan to keep doing this for? And have you? I know that you've had some bad things happen, and I think you said you were so close to quitting, but you have to be one of the longest running podcasts out there. How do you feel? And. And where do you stand in that?

Wes (51:01)

Yeah, I know we talked a little bit about this off the air. I've been hosting this podcast for just over 13 years, and I interviewed this. He's not really a kid. He's in college, but he's like, yeah, I've been listening to you ever since I was a little kid. I was like, jesus. I mean, you know, I'm like, jesus, have I been doing it that long? But, you know, there's so many other mysteries. There's so many other topics that I've always wanted to kind of delve into. And, you know, if I go off the bigfoot topic, half the audience hates my guts, the other half kind of likes it, but there's so much more to go after. You know, as far as Like Jeffrey Epstein. I've been really kind of going through the Jeffrey Epstein files, and, you know, I used to always think that guy was probably Mossad. I don't think he was Mossad. I think it's much worse than what people think. And, you know, the term BAAL sure comes up a lot in his emails. But, you know, those files are hard to read, especially if you're a good human being. It's really tough to get through some of it. But a lot of the stuff you see in the past is going on today. And I'm kind of putting together a project for my very first show, and there's a lot of cool things that I want to do. Like with AI, you know, you can create a really cool cinematic visual to actually watch. But, you know, I would probably still do the voice and just kind of present stuff in a very cool way that I couldn't do before. You know, I've always wanted to do After Dark. The problem I run into with After Dark is a computer I had at the time. There's no way I could handle it. And I burned through hard drives like there's no tomorrow with just audio editing. Now you get. You add video on top of that, and you're gonna kill a computer pretty quick. I mean, I've killed a lot of hard drives, and I finally just got the computer that has the power to actually do what I want to do. But it's a lot of work. You know, I'm researching things and I'm putting things together, and I really want to get this first episode out and actually start working on my next one while still doing Sasquatch Chronicles. And I listen to a lot of podcasts, and it dry. And I'm not beating up any podcasts for doing this. I'm saying this is my own personal feelings on my show. So I'm not faulting anyone for this. But, you know, some of these podcasts I listen to, and it's like they cut to commercial every eight minutes, and they'll do it right in the middle of a sentence. And the podcasters are doing it. It's not some third party doing it. They're the ones actually doing it. And, you know, if I added commercials to my show, I would probably make at least 10 times as much as I'm making now. But the show just means too much to me to do that. My own personal feeling, again, not a reflection on anyone else. I feel like it just kind of cheapens the show. I think I would fall out of love with my show If I cut the commercial every 10, 15 minutes, I think it just kind of ruins the show, and that's how I feel about it. And so doing the After Dark and actually having the hardware, the power behind it to actually do what I want to do. I hope people like it. It'll be separate from Sasquatch Chronicles, but I really want to create something cool that I would sit and watch, and I could go the easy route very quickly. I could have commercials in all my shows tomorrow. Like I said, it just means too much to me. But I'll keep doing the show as long as people want to listen and as long as encounters keep coming in. You know, there's so many. I rarely ever talk about this publicly. Right now, there's probably about 10 shows that are an exact carbon copy of my show. And a few of those guys I could call out because they were like, oh, Wes is just in it for the money when I was doing my memberships, and, you know, here they are. Every eight minutes, they're dumping in three or four progressive commercials. One. One's in English, one's in Spanish, and it's just not worth it to me. I put too much heart into it to slam in progressive commercials or political commercials, or I'm just kind of ranting and raving. But I guess the short answer to your question is I'll keep doing it as long as is people want to send me their encounters and people want to listen, and the day that stops, I'll leave. But right now, you know, I. I just want to do additional projects. I want to create more. And like I said, I've always been limited by hardware. You know, in the last 10 years, I bet I've burned through three computers, and I couldn't tell you how many hard drives. You know, this sort of thing is really hard on your computer. But again, I got the computer I need to create the stuff I want. So the people who hate my guts. I'll probably be here for a while. I. I hope that answers your question. I appreciate the question.

Alex (56:35)

Yeah, sorry. Bentley asking about breakfast here. Yeah, no, it's. That's that good. That's good to. To know. I don't know. I just. I would miss your show if it ever ended, and. Oh, Bentley just turned on Sonic.

Wes (56:56)

Yeah, no, that's okay. Go. Go feed Bentley. And he's earned it, man. And if there's anything I can ever do for you. Yeah, my cell. Don't hesitate to give me a call.

Alex (57:09)

Thank you so much, Wes. And I appreciate everything, and I think you're an amazing person. Damn good host. I'll send Bentley on anybody that disagrees.

Wes (57:23)

Well thanks again Alex. I really enjoyed chatting with you and Bentley and thanks so much for your guys time. And that's it for tonight everyone. 1 Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time everyone.