SC EP:1251 Fifteen Yards Away From It

Summary

Sasquatch Chronicles EP:1251 – “Fifteen Yards Away From It”

Date: April 25, 2026
Host: Wes Germer
Guest: Tim, member of the Seminole tribe, South Florida

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on an in-depth interview with Tim, a Seminole tribe member from South Florida, detailing his direct Sasquatch encounter in April 2021 and follow-up experiences in the area. Tim shares not only his close Bigfoot encounter but also a series of eerie post-encounter events — including strange vocalizations, sightings of odd tracks, inexplicable lights, and a bizarre spiritual ceremony on the reservation. The conversation explores the line between the physical and supernatural in Sasquatch lore and Native perspectives.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Background and Pre-Encounter Attitude ([03:15])

• About Tim: Lifelong resident of a remote Seminole reservation in south Florida, bordering Big Cypress National Preserve.
• Beliefs: Grew up hearing stories about Bigfoot; always considered them possibly real ("I never doubted their existence...I always thought that they were real." – Tim, [03:27]).

2. The Sasquatch Encounter – April 2021

• The Setting:
  Tim was riding his ATV on secluded woodland trails along the southern edge of the reservation at dusk, in vast, sparsely inhabited wilderness ([04:04]-[06:00]).

• The Sighting:

  • Spotted what he first mistook for a bear or a broken tree, before realizing it was a towering, broad-shouldered figure with a lighter face ([06:51]).
  • "As I was looking at it...it kind of bends its head down and locks eyes with me, and I realize, oh, no, that's a face. Those are two eyes looking at me. And he blinks." – Tim ([07:42])
  • Stood about 15 yards away, plainly visible, "almost 8 ft tall" ([14:15]).
  • Notable detail: Sunlight was glinting off its shoulder – "like he was actually there, interacting with nature" ([08:45]).
  • No smell detected, despite skunk ape legends ([16:03]).

• Emotional Impact:

  • Intense fear, sense of dread immediately before and after — worried the creature was following him all the way home ([08:47]-[12:53]).
  • "I only slept like an hour that night, just because I was so spooked." – Tim ([13:46])

• Behavior & Appearance:

  • The Sasquatch didn't run; it simply watched calmly, "almost like he was expecting me" ([16:27]).
  • Eyes were large, spaced wider than a human, and "seemed more human-esque...There was an intelligence there" ([17:23]).
  • Expression described as calm, "like you're here," not threatening ([17:42]).
  • Overall impression: Physically more animal, but with intelligence ([18:25]).

• Family Reaction:

  • His father was dismissive: "You better not go out there by yourself anymore." ([15:21])

3. Post-Encounter Incidents and Traditions

• Subsequent Visits to the Area:

  • Returned with friends to look for evidence and provoke activity ([18:33]).
  • Shared Seminole traditions: advised not to make noise, whistle, or throw objects in the woods at night ("that attracts spirits") ([19:05]).

• Strange Vocalizations and Chanting ([20:15]-[22:40]):

  • Heard distant, unintelligible "chatter," which turned into rhythmic chanting during a nighttime visit.
  • Similar to reports like the "Sierra Sounds" but less like "samurai chatter" ([21:25], [21:38]).
  • Could not make out words or intention; found it very unnerving ([22:17]).

• Odd Visual and Physical Phenomena ([23:00]-[31:42]):

  • Peekaboo Entity: At an abandoned mobile home, saw a six-foot figure with a human-shaped head poking out from behind a tree, "playing peekaboo" – didn't match the physical description of Sasquatch ([23:00]-[24:51]).
  • Light Sphere: Friend witnessed a ball of light on the dirt road, which disappeared instantly ([25:25]).
  • Tall Dark Figure: Later spotted a tall, shadowy figure dashing across a gap at night; both Tim and multiple witnesses experienced sudden, heavy dizziness—a "zoned out" or "infrasound" effect sometimes reported in Bigfoot encounters ("kind of like being high, but not really, but it's kind of that foggy type feeling" – Wes, [30:09]).
  • Interpreted as potentially physiological stress or a paranormal effect, but unsure ([30:38]-[31:42]).

• Three-Toed Tracks ([34:36]-[37:59]):

  • Discovered a trackway of long, three-toed prints, larger than alligator or bear, deeply pressed in mud; no photographs were taken.
  • Compared to enormous bird or dinosaur tracks; Tim wears shoe size 11.5 ([36:15]).
  • Host Wes relates a similar Texas incident ("reminded me of like a bird track, but the bird weighs 800 pounds" – Wes, [36:00]).

4. The Nature of Sasquatch ([38:34])

• Tim’s nuanced opinion:
  • Not "just an animal": too intelligent and elusive.
  • Not a proto-human ("I don't believe in evolution...But that's a whole other can of worms").
  • Flesh and blood, leaves tracks and scat, but sometimes associated with supernatural phenomena.
  • "I think there’s definitely a supernatural element to it. I could be wrong, but that’s kinda where I’m at." ([38:34])

5. Native and Supernatural Perspectives ([39:38])

• Wes notes: Native tribal oral traditions often associate Sasquatch with paranormal experiences, setting their view apart from the strictly zoological approach.
• Tim’s account and observations reinforce this, as many incidents blend physical and seemingly supernatural elements.

6. The Reservation Ceremony ([40:22]-[55:14])

• Background:
  • Invited to "sponsor a dinner" at a friend's house, which turned out to be a midnight folk-ceremony for seeking spirit help due to family turmoil.
• Ceremony Details:
  • Curtains taped over windows, all lights extinguished, electronics/phones banned.
  • Medicine man bound and laid face-down, then process began with drums, chanting in an indigenous language, and shakers rattling in darkness.
  • "It is so dark, I couldn’t even see my hand in front of my face." – Tim ([41:50])
  • Medicine man announced presence of specific spirits, claimed they would "look into your lives and help you." ([42:30])
  • Witnessed what sounded like a bird flying/chirping in the sealed, blacked-out room.
  • Later, a small "green ball of light" zipped through the air as bowls of food ("offering") set out were seemingly eaten—the sound of smacking lips heard in the pitch dark.
  • Multiple auditory perceptions: some attendees heard a woman scream, others heard children playing, some both ([47:45]).
  • Ceremony ended: lights on, sacred "props" scattered, food partially eaten, medicine man sitting freed from tight ropes.
  • Time distortion: felt like 45 minutes, reality was nearly three hours ([51:50]).
• Aftermath:
  • Dissonance between traditional beliefs and Christianity—Tim, as a Christian, found the event real but "not good."
  • "I believe what just happened there was real, but I don’t believe for a second it was anything good." – Tim ([52:55])
  • Host’s dry humor: "I think the minute they started tying up that old man, I'd have been like, you know what, I think I'm just gonna hit Mickey D's on the way home." ([53:31])
• Questions and Speculations:
  • No electronics or light: possibly to keep spirits invisible ([54:25]).
  • Guests required to eat from the food offering after the ritual.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• The Encounter’s Eye-Contact:
  "[The Bigfoot] kind of bends its head down and locks eyes with me, and I realize, oh, no, that's a face. Those are two eyes looking at me. And he blinks. ... That's a nose. That's a mouth. This is a Bigfoot. This is a Sasquatch that I'm looking at right here." – Tim ([07:42])

• On the Calm Intelligence:
  "The eyes seem...more human-esque, if I could say that. There was an intelligence there." – Tim ([17:23])

• On Dread and Aftermath:
  "I was so scared that I even got to the edge of the community, and now I'm on paved road...And I'm still thinking, he's right behind me, he's gonna grab me." – Tim ([10:55])

• Sasquatch’s Nature:
  "I think there’s definitely a supernatural element to it. I mean, I could be wrong, but that’s kind of where I’m at. I don’t think it’s just an animal." – Tim ([38:34])

• Ceremony Surrealism:
  "It's so dark, I couldn't even see my hand in front of my face. That's how dark it was. Can't see nothing, Just pitch black." – Tim ([41:50])

• Banter on Ceremony:
  "I think the minute they started tying up that old man, I'd have been like, you know what? I think I'm just gonna hit Mickey D's on the way home. It's been a lovely evening." – Wes ([53:31])

• Host’s Summary of Physical vs Paranormal:
  "Most Native Americans have in their oral tradition a lot of really weird paranormal type activity that goes on when they encounter these beings or these creatures." – Wes ([39:38])

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |:-------------:|-------------------------------------------------| | 03:27 | Tim’s cultural background, pre-encounter views | | 04:04–14:15 | The detailed Sasquatch ATV encounter | | 14:15 | Distance to creature (15 yards), description | | 19:05 | Seminole traditions about spirits in the woods | | 20:15–22:40 | Nighttime "chatter" and chanting in forest | | 23:00–25:25 | Peekaboo entity and anomalous ball of light | | 25:25–31:42 | Tall shadow figure, dizziness/infrasound | | 34:36–37:59 | Discovery and analysis of three-toed tracks | | 38:34 | Tim’s thoughts on the real nature of Sasquatch | | 40:22–55:14 | Description and analysis of the midnight ceremony| | 53:31 | Ceremony discussion/host humor |

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Conclusion

This episode dives beyond typical sighting reports, blending detailed first-hand Sasquatch encounters with broader cultural, supernatural, and psychological reflections. Tim’s testimony demonstrates the profound, lasting effect such events can have — from skepticism and fear to philosophical questioning. There are moments of levity, but the overriding tone is one of respect for the mystery and strangeness of events happening just out of sight, in the deep woods of Florida. For both believers and cautious skeptics, this is a standout episode capturing the compelling foothold these stories have in the American imagination.

Transcript

[Tim]

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind. And it either heard me or smelt me. And he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. And that. That shocked me. They don't make people that. That big. The way moved almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language. And they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like. And there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears. 911, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ. You better see ya. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir, that son of a is about 6 foot 9.

[Wes]

I don't know.

[Tim]

Do you see him now, sir?

[Wes]

Yes, I'm looking right at him.

[Tim]

Oh yeah. This is the macho man. And you're listening to the cream of the crop. Yeah. Podcast Sasquatch Chronicles. Here comes.

[Wes]

Welcome to the show. Tonight we'll be speaking with Tim. And Tim is a part of the Seminole tribe. He grew up in South Florida. And back in April of 2021, while riding his four wheeler in the woods, he rode up on a Sasquatch. Tim had made the comment to me that he was kind of going through the Rolodex in his mind, trying to figure out what he was actually seeing. And while in this same area, Tim had another strange experience, including finding a trackway, very large tracks that had three toes. And I'll let Tim go into it. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. There's no commercials on those either. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Tim to the show. Tim, thanks for coming on.

[Tim]

Hey, Les, thanks for having me.

[Wes]

Yeah, I appreciate you being here and if you would tell us a little bit about yourself and kind of your thoughts about Bigfoot before this incident that happened to you in April of 21.

[Tim]

Yeah, I'm out here and I'm a member of the Seminole tribe out here in Florida, South Florida. I live on a reservation out here, kind of out in the middle of nowhere. I've lived out here my entire life. I guess with just with Bigfoot, you know, I kind of. You can you grow up hearing stories, you know, ghost stories, that kind of thing, Bigfoot stories. And I, I never, you know, doubted their existence. So, I mean, I always thought that they were, they were real, but. Yeah.

[Wes]

Well, if you would, would you take me back to April of 2021? What were you doing and what happened?

[Tim]

Yeah. So this encounter that happened in April about five years ago was my most definitive encounter. Like the one I can say for sure was Bigfoot. I was out riding on my four wheeler, my atv, out in the south side of the reservation. And if you, you look on a map, the south side of the reservation is just completely just woods. No one lives out in this side of the reservation. It's just woods. And it comes up right next to the, the Big Cypress National Preserve. So even once you get off reservation, it's just woods for miles and miles. And then you come up to the interstate, I75 Alligator Alley. And then past that, it's just nothing but woods. So for just miles and miles and miles, just. It's just a vast wilderness, just swamps and woods. But I was out riding in this area in the reservation, this south southwest corner of the res. And I've been out there before, not too often. I mean, now I have been, but back when I started really like riding around in the woods, not too much in that section. So I was trying to, you know, navigate my way through there. I knew the general area, but I didn't know some of the trails too well. So I was just, you know, riding around, looking, and it was getting late. It was about 7 o' clock in the evening, so the sun was setting. I was riding along the, the west fence line of the reservation. There's. There's a border out in the woods. There's a fence line that runs the border of the reservation. Kind of like to let you know where you are. Like you're on the res and then once you get past this, you're off res and you know, it's about. The fence is probably about 7ft tall with about like, with wire running along the entire length of it. There's areas where there's no wire. Almost like somebody moved it or just got. It's just gone or just fell off. But I was riding along this. And up ahead, up ahead of me on the trail, it got really swampy. And this, the April, that time of year, I guess this time because it's April even now, it was. It's dry out there. There's. There's a few spots where it can get muddy, but it's mainly dry at this time of year. So I was, you know, comfortable driving out there. But this spot was really muddy and I didn't know if I could, you know, get stuck or lose the four wheeler because, you know, the people have lost their ATVs and side by sides out there, you know, just because of the mud and everything. So I, I cut off into this, off the fence line, I cut off into a trail on my left side. And I'm driving down this trail. As I'm going down this trail, you know, I'm listening to music, I'm enjoying myself, you know, just riding, having a good time. And then the hair on the back of my neck stands up and just out of nowhere I get this sense of dread and I get scared for like no reason. Like I said, I'm just riding and enjoying, you know, just the ride, the drive. And then I get scared out of nowhere. And I don't know if it was my, my self conscience, like, you know, just my conscience speaking to me or whatever else, but I just this, this voice in my, the back of my head was just telling me, turn around, go home, turn around. Getting dark, it's getting late, Go home, turn around. But you know, me being, me kind of being stubborn, I was like, no, I'm okay. I, I, I, I know how to get out from where I'm at. So I kept going down this trail and then eventually I went from the west border of the reservation to the south border, the south fence line. And I come out to the fence line and I'm looking, I'm driving along it and there's, it's woods on both sides of me. I'm, I'm just completely enveloped in woods. And then it opens up into this clearing on my right side, the right side of me where the fence line is. And I look out there into this clearing and he was just standing out there. It was just standing out there. This. When I saw it, when I initially saw him, I thought it was a bear. Me being me, I'm trying to rationalize what I'm seeing. So I think, okay, this is just a really big bear. And when I saw just how he was standing, you know, because he had broad shoulders and standing really comfortably. And I was like, yeah. And he was, he was brown. He was a really, a dark brown. And I've seen black, we got black bears out here, but I've seen bears that are like a really dark brown. So I thought maybe it was that, but because it was, this thing was too big, I thought, okay, it's not a bear. It's a dead tree. And the only reason I say that is because, like I said, the hair was dark brown. And where. What would I come to realize was its face is. It was lighter than the hair. So I thought what. Where its face was, it was a broken branch. Because you know how in the inside of a tree, the. The. The bark's, like, lighter than the outside. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's what I thought. I thought the. The. Where the face was. That was just where a branch was broken off at. And as I was looking at it, you know, trying to figure out what I'm trying to. I'm looking at, trying to rationalize it, it's facing me. It kind of bends its head down and locks eyes with me, and I realize, oh, no, that's a face. Those are two eyes looking at me. And he blinks because I know. I know there were eyes because he blinks. That's a no. And I was thinking, that's a nose. That's a mouth. This is a bigfoot. This is a. A sasquatch that I'm looking at right here. And we. We locked eyes from. The whole thing. Lasted maybe no more than five seconds. But, I mean, I got plain as day. Look at him and Wes. The thing. I don't know why this detail sticks out to me so much, But I just. I just remember the. The sun kind of, like, shining off of his hair. I don't know why that. That sticks out to me, but, like. Because I. I. Looking back, I might be thinking I'm just, like, imagining it, you know, like, it's. It's in my head, But I don't know why. The. What? The sun. The sun's light on this. The side of his head and on his shoulder just, like, stuck out to me, like. Like he was actually there. You know, he was interacting with nature. You know, the sun was on his shoulder, and. But, no, he was. He was huge. And when I. When I realized what I was looking at and we looked at each other for a couple of seconds, I turned my head and I start, you know, hauling butt out of there. And unfortunately, back. Back where I was at, you can't drive too fast because, like I said, this is a trail. And in the summer months, this area gets really swampy, really muddy underwater. Basically, people take their swamp buggies out there, and so they'll drive around, and they'll kind of, like, dig up the ground. They'll get big ruts in the. In the trails. So you kind of have to maneuver around them a little bit in some spots. So the fastest you could go comfortably, I would say, is maybe about 25 without, you know, risking your flipping or anything like that. But I was going as fast as. As I could without wrecking. And, you know, I kept. As I was going out this. This trail, this fence line, I kept thinking, he's behind me, he's behind me. I'm gonna turn around, he's gonna be right there, he's gonna grab me and he's gonna kill me. And I kept looking back, nothing there. And eventually, as I'm going along this fence line, it comes out to this forestry, I guess, forestry road these. The forestry guys use. I got onto that. And of course, you know, you take that, you get back into the community. So I was going along this trail, basically, and even then I was still thinking, he's right behind me, he's going to grab me. And I kept looking back, nothing there. Well, eventually I get out into this dirt road, this main dirt road, and I'm driving along it, and I'm still thinking, he's right behind me. I'm gonna turn around, he's gonna grab me. I keep looking back, nothing there. And Wes, I was so scared that I even got to the edge of the community, and now I'm on paved road. Now I'm passing houses, now even cars are passing me. And I'm still thinking, he's right behind me, he's gonna grab me. And I keep looking back, nothing there. And I get all the way down to the. My. The street that I live on, and I turn down it, and even then, I'm still thinking, he's right there, he's right behind me, and there's nothing there. And so, you know, I get home, I park my four lure, I tell my dad what happened, and my little brothers are there. I tell them what happened. And. And then I started drawing, you know, kind of what I saw, Just trying to show them what I saw. And I'm not the best. I'm not the best artist, so it kind of looked rough, and I. I wish I still had to pick the picture, but I. I lost it. You know, this happened five years ago. And, you know, and then after that happened, you know, it's nighttime, so I go to. I try to sleep. And I'll be honest, Wes, I only slept like an hour that night Just because I was so spooked. And the only. The hour I did sleep, I woke up. So just a noise outside. It was probably just, you know, like a. One of the dogs or something or a cat. But I woke up in a cold sweat from that and just. I was just shook up the entire night.

[Wes]

Yeah, I would imagine you're probably still in shock at that point. And even if you believe in Bigfoot, it's a whole different thing. Actually seeing one. This thing was pretty close to you. How far away was he? And what. What are some details that kind of stand out to you, man?

[Tim]

Wesley, here's the kind of scary part. He was maybe 15 yards from me, not far at all. And the. The biggest thing that stuck out to me was just, you know, how big this thing was. Because, you know, I hear stories of, you know, skunk apes out here and everything, and a lot of people, you know, I guess the. The thing I hear a lot is they're not as big as, like, the ones in, like. Like, where you're at, you know, the Pacific Northwest or anywhere else, you know, they say they're. The skunk apes are kind of smaller, but this one was huge. He was big. If I had to put a height to it, he was probably almost 8ft tall, at least.

[Wes]

Yeah, the reports in the Pacific Northwest might be a little bit bigger. But my attitude is, once you run into something 7 or 8ft tall, what does it really matter if they're running into ones 9 or 10ft tall in Washington? It's kind of like comparing apples to apples. What did your dad say when you. When you got home?

[Tim]

The funny thing is, he didn't. He doesn't really believe in bigfoot. I mean, he thinks maybe they could be out there, maybe not. Whenever I came into the house, he was on the couch watching tv. And I told him, you know, dad, I saw bigfoot. You know, I just saw him out there. His response was, after I told him everything, was, well, you better not go out there by yourself anymore. That was pretty much it.

[Wes]

Your dad sounds a lot like my father. Sounds like something my father would say. You know, you were pretty close to this creature. Did you smell anything?

[Tim]

No. That's the thing, because, like, you know, that's the. That's the iconic thing about the skunk ape. Right? Is the smell. Right. And it's supposed to have a smell. I didn't smell anything.

[Wes]

I would like to say this creature's behavior surprises me, but it really doesn't. I mean, I could see it just standing there being like, what in the world are you doing here? What do you make of its behavior? Because it must have heard you coming up on that four wheeler.

[Tim]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I don't I don't know because like you, like you said, their behavior is so weird because, you know, these are things that try to, I guess in general just try to be elusive, not be seen. He was just standing out in that field. Like he didn't take off. He was just standing there and it was like, almost like he was expecting me. Like he wasn't caught off guard by it. The, the thing that caught me with the face the most was his eyes. He had large eyes, kind of not spaced out but like, you know, like a decent, decently apart. They weren't close, close together, they're kind of farther out and I don't know, the eyes seem, they weren't animal eyes, you know what I mean? Like, you know how animal eyes kind of have that look to them?

[Wes]

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. Like it wasn't just your normal average predator that you're looking at. There was something more to it.

[Tim]

Yeah, they kind of like, they kind of seem more human esque, if I could say that. They kind of had like a, there was an intelligence there.

[Wes]

And I know the sun is actually setting. I don't know how light it is out there, but did you notice his facial expressions change at all?

[Tim]

Like it was about seven o', clock, so the sun was still out, like barely, but it was still there out. The expression. I would say he wasn't like angry, he wasn't showing no teeth or anything. Kind of like, like I said, like, kind of like he was expecting me there. Just a calm like you're here.

[Wes]

Yeah, kind of that stone face, you know, beyond the eyes. And I get completely what you're saying about the eyes, but as you were looking at this saying, did you get the feeling you were looking at more of an animal beyond the eyes or did you get the feeling like it was some sort of weird ancient man? What was kind of your thoughts on its overall appearance?

[Tim]

Honestly, I would fall more on the animal side.

[Wes]

Yeah. That's interesting. Did, did you ever go back a

[Tim]

few times to that same spot? I took a picture of where the, the clearing was, where it happened. And when I told my, my sister about, you know, what happened and you know, I've told people, they get mad at me, they say, why don't you take a picture of it? Why don't you take a picture? I tell him, I said, look, the last thing I was thinking when I saw this thing was let me pull my phone out and take a picture of this because it caught me off guard. But I've been To that spot a few times. Man, this had. This had to be a year after it happened. Just about, I think, November of 2022, I went out there With a couple of my. My buddies Because I told them what I've seen and everything, and they've, you know, heard stories, and they tell me stories of people they. They've. That's gone out there and seen stuff or heard stuff. And one of the things we're told in our culture is, at night, don't make noise. Like, you're not supposed to yell or shout or scream or play or anything like that. You're supposed to just be inside and, you know, go to bed, basically. Another thing they tell us is don't whistle. You're not supposed to whistle at night because that attracts spirits. And the same thing with a noise thing, they say that attracts spirits. Another thing they say, this. This might be interesting to you. They say, don't throw in anything into the woods at night because something will throw what you threw in the woods Right back at you. But anyways, we went out there one night, and of course, I'm gonna. I told them, I said, I'm screaming, yell, and let's see if we get anything. So I screamed and I yelled and everything and made noise. And we're sitting out there, and we're at another clearing. We're on another trail in my truck. And in the distance, maybe about 100 yards away in the. The tree line, we hear something. Like it's talking, like, in the distance. We can hear, like, chatter. Can't make it out, but there's something talking in the distance, and we're trying to, you know, make it out. We're like, you hear that? And, like, we're all quiet in the truck. And one of my buddies Is like, yeah, it sounds like Someone's talking out there. And right when he said that, and. And wes, when this one. I don't know if it was bigfoot related, because once when he said, yeah, it sounds like someone's talking, it turned into the talking Turned almost into chanting. Like, something started chanting out in the woods. Like, it was, like, rhythmic, like, speech. Rhythmic noise, you know, that's when I said, okay, let's get out of here. And I started the truck up, and we took off out of there. And that was the. That was the next encounter in that. Or not encounter, but incident in that same area Where I saw the. The bigfoot the first time.

[Wes]

Yeah, the chanting part is kind of weird.

[Tim]

The.

[Wes]

The talking that you heard in the beginning. I don't have it queued up at the moment, but it's in the intro of my show, the Sierra sounds. Did it sound like the Sierra sounds?

[Tim]

I wouldn't say. Not like that specifically, because you know how the. The samurai chatter kind of sounds? Like more jumbled. It was like. Like someone was, like, talking in the distance. Like, not like. Like, like, you know how they were like, kind of like. It was like, mumbled, just like, constant, like, just chatter. It was just like someone having a conversation. I don't know how to. To differentiate it, but that's what I thought at first. Is this. Are they. Is this, like samurai chatter? But it didn't sound like it was.

[Wes]

The chanting is kind of creepy. Could you make out what they were actually chanting?

[Tim]

No, No, I couldn't because, like, like I said, they were probably wherever this was, maybe at least 100 yards where the truck was. But like I said, this was out in the woods. Way out in the woods. And, you know, for someone to be chanting out there you go, you're looking to get. You know, if you're trying to scare someone, you're gonna probably get.

[Wes]

Yeah, I'm kind of losing you a little bit there, Tim. If you would tell me about these tracks that you found, then I want to ask you about this weird ceremony that you attended.

[Tim]

Oh, man. Okay. Yeah. So after the chanting, encounter one

[Wes]

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[Tim]

couple weeks later, we went back out there with a few more people and, you know, started making noise and yelling, screaming, see if we could get anything where we were at. We were along the canal, so we're in, like, a more open area. We were along a big canal, one of the big canals in the community. It's still a remote area, but we were out there and screaming around, making noise. And there's an abandoned house out there, an abandoned, I guess, mobile home. And they had a street light that's still on. And in that light, whenever we made the noise, we were facing. We had our backs turned to that where that mobile home was along the canal. And. Sorry, this. This one kind of freaks me out because I don't. I don't think this one was Bigfoot. But we turn around and kind of look towards that mobile home along the. Because it's right next to the woods and right where the light from that street lamp meets the woods, there was something standing right above, right next to the. Right next to one of the trees. And it was kind of like poking its head out. And we were looking at. And this thing was probably maybe six feet, if I had to guess, six feet off the ground. And it was poking. It poked its head out. And Right whenever I told my buddies, look, there's something looking at us right there. It went behind the tree, but then it. It poked its head out again, and it kind of, like, kept doing that, like, kind of like a. A peekaboo kind of thing. And the reason I say it, I don't think it was a bigfoot, Because, I mean, at least for me, it didn't look like the one I saw, because the one I saw Kind of had, like a. A cone. A conical kind of shape, Like a conehead. I guess that's what they call it. But this one kind of seemed like Just like a person, Kind of like, you know, had a neck and a head. And it was kind of like Playing peekaboo with us a little bit. And that's when we got kind of creeped out. And I was like, okay, let's go. And as we were leaving the canal, we were going along the. The dirt road. We get away from the. The light and everything. We leave that. That area. My friend is in the back seat, and he looks back behind us, and he said. And he says, tim, look, There's a light. And I was like, what do you mean there's a light? He said, look. And I. When I look, Whatever he was looking at disappeared. And I said, what did you see? He said, there was a ball of light, and then it just. It was just gone. And it's like, are you sure? He's like, yeah, I'm sure. I saw there was a ball of light on the road, and it just disappeared. And so then that's when I was like, okay. And that was one of the last times we kind of poked around out there. There was another time, the. So the next time we went out there, this time, we went all the way to the south fence line. And this trail we were on Is actually part of the Florida trail. If you look on a map, it's. You can see the Florida trail Comes up right to the reservation, and it keeps going up. And we were right there on that Florida trail. And, you know, we. I go out. We go out there. I back the truck up. So where. So to where the back of my truck Is facing the fence. Or where the gate is, technically. And I'm facing the back of my truck's facing south. Front of my truck is facing north to the east side. To my right, it was. There was kind of tree cover. And to the west side, there was. It was a massive clearing that went along this. This fence, Like, I said, there was a trail that goes along the fence, and we had, you know, screen. You know, you. We did what we did, you know, scream and yell and shout, see if we get anything. And. And this happened. This. This one was probably about close to midnight when we went out there. And this time we had our spotlights. And so we were just sitting there listening. We hear, you know, owls go off behind us to the. I guess, southeast. So behind me, we hear like a. It's in the distance. And I don't know if it was an owl or not. It didn't really sound like an owl. Almost like. It almost sounded like something made a shout, like. Just like. Like a yell. And then. So we were listening to that for a little bit, trying to see if we get anything else. Nothing. You know, it's just quiet. The. The woods are alive. You know, it's not dead silent. There's, you know, still bugs and everything. And so I pull out my spotlight, and I have my spotlight facing down this trail that goes west. And it's like I said, it's a big clearing. And my spotlight maybe goes about. Maybe 75 yards. You get decent light. And then after that, it kind of like. It fades out kind of. But right at the edge of my spotlight, something tall and dark runs across. I can't make it out. I just know it was a tall, dark shape runs from one end of the woods to the other end, from one end of this clearing to the other. Now, you know, at night, like, you know how sometimes your eyes can play tricks on you? So I didn't say anything because I didn't want to be like, oh, there's. I saw something. But my friend sitting behind me says, tim, did you see that? And so I didn't. I didn't want to lead him on, so I said, well, no. What did you see? And he was like, there was something tall and dark that ran across that clearing. And then. Now, then I was thinking, oh, my gosh, he saw it, too. There was. So. There was definitely something there. And. And, Wes, what happens next? I don't know if you've gotten reports of this, but me and my buddy, who was sitting in shotgun with me in the truck, we kind of kind of started, like, getting lightheaded, almost like we were, like, kind of, like zoning out a little, like, spacing out. And then he kind of got, like, dizzy a little bit. It was like we got dizzy, kind of, like really dizzy. And he was like, whoa. And he grabbed the. He grabbed onto the. The. The door of my Truck. And I was like, you get. Are you getting lightheaded? He's like, yeah, I'm getting lightheaded. He's like, let's get out of here. This is getting freaky. I was like, yeah, me too. Yeah, it is. And so then that's when we took off out of there. But yeah, that was the next incident. That was the last time I we ever went, like poking out in the woods like that.

[Wes]

Yeah, that does get reported in some encounters. I even experienced that in my own encounter. That zoned out feeling. It's kind of like being high, but not really, but it's kind of that foggy type feeling. I mean, we were high during my encounter, but that's how I would liken it. It's kind of that real foggy feeling. And I always kind of assumed it was like an adrenaline dump. What are your thoughts?

[Tim]

I've wondered that too. Like if. If it was just my adrenaline kicking in. But I mean, up to that point there really wasn't like, I wasn't like freaking out, you know what I mean? Because like I said, I just. We just saw that thing run across and it was a good distance away from us and I wasn't thinking in my head. Like, I wasn't like freaking out up to that point. So I was just, you know, kind of like, oh, what, what was that like, you know, what's this? What's going on? Not like, oh my gosh, you know, like. But I mean, maybe it was. I could be wrong. I could be wrong.

[Wes]

In some encounters, people, what they're describing sounds like infrasound sickness. And infrasound sickness can last for a while. How long did you feel these effects,

[Tim]

man, maybe about 15 seconds. We were like, oof. Kind of like just like getting real dizzy and like towards the end, that's when it got like more bad. That's why he, like my friend, like grabbed onto the side of the door kind of like, whoa. Like he's kind of like trying to like steady himself, you know, even seeing

[Wes]

at a second time will shock you. That kind of sounds like what? And I wasn't there. So take my opinion with a grain of salt. But it might have just been kind of the shock. You know, your blood pressure goes up and you say in the moment, hey, I really wasn't like freaking out. But you'd be surprised sometimes how the body reacts. You know, there's many times when I was a bouncer that I would be in situations and I was stone faced and on the outside it looks Like, I'm confident, calm, and cool. And then when it's over, I'm like, I can't believe I just looked down the barrel of a gun. What am I doing with my life? You know, I'm like throwing up in the corner. It kind of hits me afterwards. And I almost wonder if that's what was going on with you guys. Backing up for a second on that very first incident of that thing peeking around the tree. Would you kind of describe what you saw?

[Tim]

Yeah. So, I mean, I. It was probably, like I said, maybe 75 yards from us. Like I said, it wasn't. It was no more than 6ft tall. It wasn't the biggest thing. And like I said, it was like. It wasn't conical shaped. It was almost like a person. I was just behind that, behind that tree, like poking and looking at us. It wasn't like his whole shoulder came out. It was kind of just like his head was poked out. And then he went back in and went behind it. And I mean, like I said, it was night. The street lamp wasn't the best, but I could tell that there was a head that was poking like in and out. And I don't know, like I said, I don't think that was Sasquatch related. And at that house, even we have. I have a friend. He. He used to live at that house. That's actually his, his mom's house. And he doesn't live out here no more. But when they did live out there, they had stuff going on in that house before. So at times he was at home by himself where he thought his mom was home. Like he thought his mom came into the house because he heard footsteps and you know, noise like someone, like. Like someone's coming into the house. So he went out there. So to say hi to his mom. No one was out there. And at one time they, they kept hogs in their yard and hogs in their, their backyard. And one night something came in and took off with one of their hogs. Because they went out there because I heard squealing like it was freaking out. And then they went outside and they could hear the hog like being taken off. But like it was like squealing like it was freaking out as it was running off. And so they try to see if it broke out or not or something. There was no like break in the fence. It would, it just like some. It seemed like it would just took off.

[Wes]

Makes me wonder what it was you guys actually saw if it wasn't one of these things. Before we get into the ceremony. I want to ask you about. Tell me about these tracks that you found. The three toed track. Did you ever get a picture of it?

[Tim]

And Wes, I. I'm kicking myself up and down over that. And I didn't, but I was. It happened. I saw it a few weeks ago, a couple weeks back, and I was out in the same area. I was riding. It was the middle of the day on. I was on the fence line and I come up on it and I thought it was like a gator track at first. And then I look at it. I said, no, it's. Maybe it's a bear track. But I was like, it's too long. Not wide, but long to be a bear track. Maybe it's a person. But it had three toes and there was. There was no one out there. There was no tire tracks, no one else. No one had been back in this area in a while. I was the only one. And the tracks look fairly fresh.

[Wes]

So it wasn't one track that you found. It sounds like there was multiple.

[Tim]

No, yeah, yeah, it was a. It was a decent set of tracks. It wasn't because like I said, I thought maybe it was a bear or like a gator. But they weren't wide tracks. They were kind of like. Like if it was on two feet. Does that make sense?

[Wes]

Yeah, it does. I've seen it one time before in Texas. We only found two tracks, but I remember looking at it going, I don't know. Kind of reminded me of like a bird track. But the bird weighs like 800 pounds.

[Tim]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought too. But I'm like, there's no bird that's big enough out here. Unless it's like a ostrich or a dinosaur, then maybe. But like, the track was probably at least my size. And I wear 11 and a half in shoes, if not a little bigger. But there's no way, like there's a. There's a bird out here that could do that because it was kind of deep too.

[Wes]

Yeah. And that's kind of what I was thinking to Tim with the two tracks that we found in Texas. And I would say they were about a size, you know, a Minshew, 11, 12, maybe 13. But my mind went to bird because imagine like a chicken track. Everyone's seen a chicken track. It was kind of like that, just huge. The toes were huge. To this day, I can't explain what made that track.

[Tim]

And that's the thing, like, because, like, when I saw it, I thought maybe a gator, But Gator tracks aren't that long. Like they're, they're wide, you know, and if it was, if this was a gator, it had to be a big gator. But like I said, his feet. It's where the track was. It wasn't as long as. Or if it was a gator, the track was not as long as it should have been. And also gators drag their tails. So if it was a gator, you would have seen the, the tail dragging through the mud. There was nothing there. And then if it was a bear, like I said, same thing with a bear. It wasn't long enough to be a bear. That'd be a very odd shaped bear if it was.

[Wes]

Yeah, we kind of did the same thing too. I was asking the guys, I was like, maybe gator tracks, but why is there only two? You know, we're out in the middle of the Sam Houston National Forest, and like you were saying, Tim, I mean, you would think you'd see four sets of tracks and a drag mark from the body. What I saw was only two tracks. I don't know why there was only two. My mind really went to more of like an oversized chicken than a, than a gator. Very strange. Let me ask you, what do you think Sasquatch is? What's your take, Tim?

[Tim]

Honestly, I mean, I don't, I don't know. I don't think it's just an animal because, I mean, if it was, we should have gotten up with it by now. Like we should have gotten one. There's too much, there's too much intelligence involved in it. I don't, I don't think it's a, like a proto human. I'm not, I, I don't believe in evolution. It's. But that's a whole nother can of worms right there. But I don't think it's that. I think they are, you know, flesh and blood. You know, they leave tracks. They leave, in some instances, you know, like scat, like poop or dung. But I mean, they're very physical. But then, I mean, like, you know, you hear those stories where they're like, they say there's something walking right, something big walking right behind them. Then they turn around, there's nothing there. Or there's something that yells at them or, or roars at them, and then they turn around to see it and there's nothing there. And I don't know. I think there's definitely a supernatural element to it. I mean, I could be wrong, but that's kind of where I'm at. I don't think it's just an animal.

[Wes]

Yeah, you would think if it was a normal animal we would have caught up with it by now. I always kind of liken it to the mountain gorilla. You know, when the locals would report seeing this man like creature, they never talked about anything supernatural. Everything they described sound like an animal. And most Native Americans have in their oral tradition a lot of really weird paranormal type activity that goes on when they encounter these beings or these creatures. Makes me wonder. Tell me about this ceremony. I'm very curious about what this whole ceremony was about and what happened.

[Tim]

So this ceremony happened also on the, the reservation one one night, it was about 10 o' clock at night, one of my friends calls me up and says, hey, do you want to. In his own words, he said, hey, do you want to sponsor a dinner? And I was like, sponsor a dinner? He's like, yeah, do you want to come over and sponsor a dinner? I thought he meant I give his family like 15 bucks and they'll give me like. I thought they were hosting like a party or something. And I like pay for a plate or something. That's what I thought. And I said okay, yeah, sure. And he said, okay, yeah, if you want, you can bring, you know, our other friends over. And so. Okay. So I called my other friends up and they're like, yeah, we're willing to go over there. And. And so we went. Well, we went over there. We got there about. It was almost 11:00 o'clock at, at night and we come to my friend's house and it was a mobile home. It's a double wide trailer. And so we walk in and when we walk in the dining, we walk right into the dining room room. And then to our rights is our right is the, the kitchen. It goes dining room, then kitchen and then I guess another like living room area they had. Because they had a living room in front of us, but there was a living room off to our right side and where that living room was to our right, they kind of had blankets taped up along the, the ceiling. Kind of like they kind of like made them like drapes out of the blankets. But they were kind of, they were taped up to the ceiling. They kind of like walled it off. It wasn't completely closed in, but they were starting to like seal it up. And I saw that and I was like, oh, what's going on? He's like, oh, we're doing a, a ceremony. And I thought something, you know, just along with the, the, you know, like a Cultural thing because he's also, he's seminal, but he's also. I don't want to say Sue. He's some, one of the tribes in South Dakota. He's part. That too. So he has mixed blood. And I mean, I do too. I got, I'm part Cherokee as well, but mainly Seminole. But anyways, so I, I thought, oh, okay. And I, I was gonna, I decided to stay because I wanted to, you know, check it out, you know, see what was going on. And in the kitchen, they had food. There was food there and everything. I thought we were gonna eat, but he said, no, that's after the ceremony. We're gonna eat after the ceremony. So I said, oh, okay. And then. So he's like, yeah, we're gonna be in that, that living room. You see where the blank, where the, the blankets were kind of like cutting off that living room. We're gonna be in there. And so we were hanging out, talking, and then for. And then about close to midnight, it probably was midnight, we all get. Gather into that, that room. And in that room there's, there's no furniture except for like three chairs, like fold out chairs, and the, the windows that are along the walls. They're completely like, there's blankets over them and they're completely like duct taped, like completely sealed. And in the middle of this room there's a blanket. And on, at the four corners of this blanket are these sticks or like poles. And on top of these poles there's shakers. What would I, what I would come to realize are shakers. And running along the border of this blanket is like tobacco tied to like string. It kind of looks like a. It kind of looked like Christmas lights. You know how Christmas lights look when there's like, they're along a string and there's like a little light, and then you go down, there's another light kind of like that. You know. You know what I mean? Yeah, kind of like that. So, yeah, that kind of look. And they were going along the border of this blanket. And in the middle of this blanket, this guy, what my friend told me that's, that's the medicine man. He's the one doing the ceremony. I said, okay, this the medicine man. He's talking to another man and he's telling them, you know, put the blanket over me and then tie me up. And I'm thinking that's kind of weird, but you know, I'm not, I'm gonna hold my tongue, try to be respectful, but. So then everyone gets into the room. There's no furniture except for the, the three fold out chairs that are in front of this blanket in the middle of the room. They're kind of, they're facing towards this blanket. And my friend told me that his mom and his aunts were the ones that were going to get prayed for in this ceremony. They're going to get prayed over. And so they were the ones that had to sit at these chairs. So they sit down at those chairs and then the rest of us sit along the wall. We get down on the floor, sit along on the wall. And then the medicine man gets a blanket put over him. And then this other guy like kind of like wraps a big rope like over his whole body, ties him up, puts like I don't know how many knots, but he's like constantly nodding it up so like making it real tight to where he can't get out. And then he, he guides him down into the middle of this blanket and like lays him on the ground and flips him over. So now his, he had his back on the ground, but now he's down on the, on his stomach. And then when that happens, they turn on flashlights in this room. And then this is when I realized I probably should leave. When, when the medicine man said, cut the power to the house. And so then someone went outside and turned the breaker off to the house and killed the power. So now there's only the flashlights that are on. And so then he said, okay, we're going to start the ceremony. Oh, I should back up and say when we came into this room, we were not allowed to bring anything that would emit light. We were not allowed to bring our phones or a watch or anything like that. Anything that would emit light. We had to leave them out in the kitchen. So I'm sitting there along the wall and the guy that tied up the medicine man, he also comes up to the wall, sits down with it and he has a drum. And so while he's we're sitting there, he's like, okay, we're gonna start. And then he turned. All the lights go off and it is pitch black in that room. It's so dark, I mean, I couldn't even see my hand in front of my face. That's how dark it was. Can't see nothing, Just pitch black. And so then the, the guy that tied up the medicine man, he starts beating a drum and starts singing in, in the lang. Whatever language, I can't remember the tribe. But he, he starts singing in his tongue and starts being the drum and Sorry. I get, I, I get goosebumps every time I recount this. But he, he's beating his, the drum and it's pitch black, can't see nothing. And then the shakers start going off. You start, and I start, you know, like, like a rattlesnake noise. Like the shakers are shaking and this guy's beating his drum. It's. It's shaking. The, the shakers are going off and this guy, the medicine man in the middle of the room, the, the drumming stops, the guy stops singing. And then the medicine man says, this spirit is here. And he lists the name. I can't remember the name and frankly, I don't want to remember the names of these spirits who was lifting off. But he said, this spirit's here. This spirit's here. And he said he was talking to the, the women that were getting prayed for who said, oh, they're going to, they're going to look into your lives and they're going to, they're going to help you out. They're going to help you out. They're here, they're looking into your lives. They see this and they see that they're going to help you out. And then, so then they start the ceremony and they started beating the drum and singing. The, the guy starts singing in his tongue and then the shakers start going off again. And this part kind of creeps me out a little bit because then it sounds like there's a bird in the, in the room, Wes. Like a bird starts flying around because you can hear like the, the, the. The flapping of the, the wings and kind of hear like the chirp a little bit. Like it's something flying around in the room. It's pitch black. Can't see nothing, but something starts like flying around, chirping. And as this guy's beating his drum and singing and the shakers are going off and then they stop again and the medicine man starts saying that this spirit is saying this, this spirit is saying that this spirit is going to do this for these women that were getting prayed for. And then they start beating the drum again and you know, shakers start going off again. And then now instead of a bird, there was like a little green light, almost like a firefly kind of light, but it wasn't like emitting light. Like it was like kind of like its own self contained little green ball of light. It kind of like started whizzing around the room a little bit. Can't see nothing still. You can only just see this little light going around, and then it stops. And. Oh, I forgot to mention this too. Right next to this blanket, this blanket in the middle of the room, there's these four bowls of food that they put into it. They called it an offering. And Wes, something started eating out of it. Like, you could hear this thing, like, start, like, kind of like smacking, like. Like smacking his lip. Like. Like it was eating. Like. Like, kind of like that. Like eating, like, eating what's in that bowl. And this is where it gets weird, because, I mean, if it isn't weird already, but this is where it got really weird, because the next thing I hear is a woman scream. But when I asked my friends if they heard that woman screaming, some of them said, yeah, I heard a woman scream. But then others said, no, I heard children playing. Instead of the woman screaming, some of them heard both. And when the ceremony, when he stopped, when the guy stopped beating his drum and the shaker stopped going off, they turned the lights back, they turned the lanterns and flashlights back on in the room. The poles that were at the four corners of this blanket were all over the room. The. The blanket was disheveled all over the. It was moved out of place. There was food missing from this bowl. Like, there. There were chunks of food missing. And this guy, this medicine man that got tied up and got put down in the middle of this blanket was sitting crisscross applesauce in the middle of this blanket, looking at us with a blanket completely off him, with the ropes completely off him. He was just sitting there. And then after that, they. They, you know, he said that the. The spirit said, they'll help. They'll do this for you. They'll do this for these people. And then after that, they passed around, I guess it was like a tobacco pipe to, like, smoke out of. And then after that, they passed around the. The food that. The bowl out of. What. Whatever it was that ate out of this bowl. They passed that around and everyone ate from that, too. And then afterwards, that was the end of the ceremony, they turned the power back on. We went back out and started eating the food. And Wes, we went into that room at about. It was past midnight, but it wasn't one o' clock in the morning yet. But we got out of there almost four in the morning. But it didn't even feel like three hours passed. It felt at most, maybe 45 minutes. And then when the ceremony was over, my friend came up to me and he said, because I'm a Christian. And he came up to me, he said, see, he Said, what we believe is real. What you believe? Talking to me, he said, what you believe isn't real. And I told him. I said, look, I said, I believe what just happened there was real, But I don't believe for a second it was anything good. And so that was kind of that. That encounter right there.

[Wes]

So what did they serve for dinner afterwards? I'm just joking, man. I think the minute they started tying up that old man, I'd have been like, you know what? I think I'm just gonna hit Mickey D's on the way. On the way home. It's been a very lovely evening. Thank you so much. I'm not sure what crime is about to be committed here. What was the purpose of the ceremony? What were they trying to accomplish?

[Tim]

They were trying to. I guess there was turmoil in their family, so they were trying to reach out to these spirits, these good spirits to come and help them out. They're basically praying. It was like a praying ceremony.

[Wes]

Yeah, it's very strange. And then your friend's kind of a dick. I mean, after making you sit through that, he's like, I'm gonna go in and insult your religion now. Well, why did they have the lights off? What was the purpose behind that? Did they say no?

[Tim]

I mean, I should have asked that. But, I mean, my. If I had a guess, maybe it's because they didn't want to be seen. Because, I mean, like I said, we couldn't go in there with our phones or anything that would emit light. And it was pitch black in that room. They taped off the. The window so no light could come in, even though it was already, like, past midnight. But, no, they didn't want no light in there. I don't know why.

[Wes]

Yeah, I think I would have. I think I would have gotten out of there, been like, you know, I was promised meat and potatoes when I got here, and are we sacrificing someone or what the hell is going on here? I think I would have just left.

[Tim]

Yeah, but I didn't want to be rude to just like, I'm leaving, you know, because they invited me over. I mean, I should have go and. Look, hindsight's 20 20. I should have just been like, I'm leaving.

[Wes]

It's an odd account, man. I really appreciate you sharing it. You know, I kind of have an odd sense of humor. Some people laugh. Most don't. Probably why I don't get invited to stuff like that. But, yeah, I appreciate sharing that, and I appreciate sharing the Sasquatch encounter. I really enjoyed chatting with you, man.

[Tim]

Yeah, thanks for having me on. I. I appreciate the show, Wes. I appreciate all that you do, and just keep up the good work, man.

[Wes]

Thanks again, Tim. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com. you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

[Tim]

I'm fine. I'm a liar? I. Stood at the speed of sound?

[Wes]

Ready to leave the ground?

[Tim]

Looking like a white star? Sa? I. Sa? Okay, let's let it drift in like this. Slowly. Okay, Sam? Moving backwards, Head and high. I don't care if my head? I don't care? I. Sa.