SC EP:1255 Strange And Unexplained Part1

Summary

Sasquatch Chronicles – Bigfoot Encounters

Episode: SC EP:1255 “Strange And Unexplained Part 1”
Date: May 10, 2026
Host: Wes
Guests: Matt (Railroad Worker), Jacob (Merchant Marine)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the world of strange, unexplained encounters in the woods, focusing on two guests’ firsthand accounts of bizarre phenomena. Host Wes guides Matt—who relays his eerie experiences in Massachusetts, including encounters on the railroad—and Jacob, who describes witnessing a mysterious orb following his vehicle in Florida. The episode explores themes of disbelief, the limitations of rational explanation, and the intersection between Bigfoot, UFOs, and high strangeness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Secrecy and UFO Disclosure (00:06–06:36)

• Guests: Sean (media), Tim Burchett (Congressman), Wes (Host)
• Discussion: References ongoing government battles over UFO disclosure, including claims that crucial information is palmed off onto private defense contractors, circumventing Freedom of Information Act requests.
• Tim Burchett: "This is just the tip of the iceberg...they have compartmentalized this stuff so much." (02:43)
• Host's Perspective: Wes highlights how privatization secures secrets: “You want to know what the deep state is? It’s private contractors...with a third party company…they’ll just tell you to go after yourself.” (01:54)

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2. Matt’s Encounters: “The Frogman” and Railroad Strangeness (09:13–44:12)

The “Frogman” Encounter (09:13–20:51)

• Location: Westport, MA (2006)
• Description: While quad riding, Matt sees a man in an all-blue tracksuit emerge from the woods, move fluidly, and leap 10 feet onto a large rock, perching in a frog-like position before bobbing his head in a non-human way.
• Quote: “It’s like he didn’t even jump. He just—like something picked him up off the ground and placed him...There was no body movement...just poof. Looked like Mario, you know what I mean? Boing, like right up…” (14:29)
• Impact: Shaken, Matt fled the area, never returned, and struggled to find others who believed him.

Noted Parallels and Speculation:

• Wes references another witness with a similar sighting in the region, and invokes legends like the Loveland Frogman and possible supernatural explanations (i.e., jinn, as in Middle Eastern folklore).
• Wes: “Was it a ghost?...locals told him he ran into a jinn...I don’t know if it was something like that you ran into...” (19:15)

Railroad Incidents (21:15–44:12)

The Thrown Tree Spear (21:15–32:01)

• Event: While working as night shift supervisor on the railroad (October 2023), Matt witnesses a huge limb (approx. 30 ft long, 400 lbs) hurled from the woods, impaling a rail car like a massive spear.
• Quote: “Something threw it with so much force it impaled the rail car right through, like a spear...it was, it was such a wild sight to see this thing fly perfectly straight...” (28:31)
• After alerting his supervisor and returning, the limb had vanished, leaving only bark and a basketball-sized hole.
• Supervisor's Reaction: "We're just gonna pretend this never happens. Don't ever tell anybody this because you're, you're, you're gonna need an evaluation.” (29:51)

Further Weird Incidents (32:01–43:45)

• Unexplained Deer Deaths: Several intact deer found piled up with snapped necks, no blood (summer 2023).
• Bear Leg Incident: Discovery of a fresh, severed black bear leg (January 2024), ripped off with extreme force, accompanied by a blood trail.
• Lights: Witnessed two headlight-like orbs that vanished when approached (36:08–37:17).
• Odd Owl Mimicry: Experienced deep, unnatural “who” calls and a large owl striking his truck, resembling common reports of Sasquatch vocal mimicry.
  • Matt: "It sounded like a full grown man…trying to sound like an owl…like the most low pitched voice. It was strange." (40:57)

Colleague Reactions & Theories

• Most coworkers dismiss or rationalize events, but after the bear incident, one mentions “must be a Bigfoot.”
• Matt: “He’s probably right, because what else could rip a leg off like that?” (41:42)

Matt’s View on Sasquatch

• “I think it's real. I think it's alive. I don't think it's some mystic creature...I don't know what it is. I think it's not human, but I think it's definitely flesh and blood.” (43:10)

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3. Jacob’s Encounter with a Pursuing Orb (44:27–57:00)

• Location: Highway 27, Sebring, Florida (March 2026)
• Event: Jacob (merchant marine) and his pilot friend, while returning home at night, notice a glowing blue-white orb (between a baseball and bowling ball in size) closely tailing their truck, hovering just over the bed. When Jacob turns to look directly, the orb disappears instantaneously.
  • Jacob: "When I first looked...it didn't click to me how close this thing really was...my buddy said that thing was literally like almost over the bed of the truck." (48:19)
• Both men are experienced with aircraft lights, navigation, and dismiss ordinary explanations. They are left unsettled.
  • Jacob: “We know what we saw and we didn’t know what we saw.” (50:31)
• Theories range from secret technology to possible aerial surveillance, drone or spirit activity.
  • Jacob: "What's to say that's not their version of surveillance? ... I don't want to think that because that terrifies me, but what else could they be, you know?" (52:10)

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4. Philosophical and Theoretical Discussion (53:13–56:30)

• Jacob ponders the possible connection between Sasquatch encounters and mysterious orbs/lights in the woods, referencing David Paulides’ research and Native American spiritual beliefs.
• Jacob’s View: Began as a skeptic, but after hearing multiple credible accounts, now sees Sasquatch as more than just an undiscovered primate—possibly “interdimensional” or possessing abilities “we cannot see...or both.”
• Wes reflects on how strange phenomena (lights, voices, vanishing beasts) cluster around Bigfoot sightings.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Matt (on the Frogman):
  “It’s like he didn’t even jump. He just—like something picked him up off the ground and placed him...Looked like Mario, you know what I mean? Like boing, like right up...” (14:29)
• Matt (on the tree spear):
  "If that’s the case, I don’t ever want to see what threw that.” (28:31)
• Jacob (on the orb):
  “It's like–wherever it was, it disappeared from that spot...that’s the part that The whole thing's creepy, you know.” (48:19)
• Wes (on the unexplained):
  “You run into something and you realize this thing could do whatever it wanted, and there's nothing I could do to stop it.” (43:45)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:06–06:36: UFO disclosure, private contracts, government secrets.
• 09:13–20:51: Matt’s “Frogman” encounter.
• 21:15–32:01: Railroad incident—impaled rail car and vanishing limb.
• 32:05–43:45: More railroad strangeness—deer, bear leg, lights, mimicked owl calls.
• 44:27–57:00: Jacob’s orb encounter and philosophical discussion.

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Tone & Feel

The episode is direct and conversational, with moments of dry humor and skepticism, but also genuine awe and humility in the face of the unexplained. Both guests are practical, outdoors-oriented men who are shaken by the strangeness they've witnessed, and Wes’s measured, open-minded approach invites listeners to weigh testimony for themselves.

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Conclusion

This episode of Sasquatch Chronicles is a textbook example of “high strangeness”—mixing cryptid lore, unexplained lights, and government secrecy with credible, detailed firsthand encounters. Both Matt and Jacob offer no-nonsense, vividly recounted stories that defy easy categorization, highlighting the enduring mystery of what stalks the woods—and perhaps our highways—after dark.

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Transcript

[Podcast Intro/Outro Narrator]

Foreign.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Releases, declassified UFO files. All right, I'll play along. Let's see what these two donkeys have to say.

[Sean]

Tim Burchett is with us with more. I gotta first give you credit. You've been fighting for this information to be made public for a long time. Thank you for the fight that you're in. I think it runs a lot deeper. The most compelling information I saw was from our own astronauts on top of the videos. But you know a lot more than that, don't you?

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

No, Sean, he doesn't.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

I do. And I do want to personally thank President Trump for keeping his word to me personally. We had a long conversation and I brought that up to him, and he said he was going to get it out there and that gummid, he kept his word. And, you know. But I want to warn people, though, this early stuff that we're seeing is not all of it.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

No kidding.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

This is just the tip of the iceberg. But Trump's having to fight, you know, he's having to fight the deep state. And it's just. And the next files will be tougher to get, but I suspect he'll get them because he is Trump. He knows how to work this thing.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Don't hold your breath, Congressman.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

And until that day comes, though, there's still going to be more and more and there's going to be more questions.

[Sean]

Okay, when you watch the S4, the Bob Lazar story, which I know you're very familiar with, he's saying we have aircraft. Do we?

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

He doesn't know.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

I think we do, but I don't think they're quite in our hands. I think what they've done is hand it out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities, because that way they're not foiable. Freedom of Information act, say.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Now we're getting somewhere. You want to know what the deep state is? It's not the wizard of Oz behind the curtain. It's private contractors. And in 1950, the US government started using private contractors. Why? There was this little kooky incident that happened in 1947 near Roswell, and Americans generally don't trust the government and will force them to pass laws to share what they know. You can submit a Freedom of Information act, and the government has so much time to where they have to release that information. But with a third party company, you can go to Boeing or any of these other companies and say, I want to see this, I want to see that. And they'll just tell you to go after yourself.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

Quite in our Hands. I think what they've done is hand it out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities, because that way they're not foiable. Freedom of Information Act. Say we handed something off to Ford Motor Company. We haven't, I don't think. But if we had, me as a congressman, could not foia that from Ford, but I could if it was the FBI, if we really trusted them to give us the right information, which I don't always, but I think that's what they've done with it. And they've compartmentalized this stuff so much, Sean, that it's. It's very difficult. You'll have somebody within one department tell you that it does not exist. We don't, you know, little guy with a man bun in the Biden administration telling me we don't have data points on this. And then, you know, you know, the next week I'm getting briefed by somebody in his own. In the same Alphabet agency that's telling me that, in fact, they do exist. And here's the footage of what we're seeing, and we don't know what they are.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Well.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

And why in the world would these pilots go ahead? I'm sorry.

[Sean]

Well, I mean, the astronauts aren't going to lie. It makes it seem like a certainty that people that know, like yourself and Marco Rubio, that you guys know that, that government officials already know. So hopefully this is the beginning of many disclosures. I mean, I'm sure you've watched the Age of Disclosure.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

He was actually in the movie, Sean.

[Tim Burchett (Congressman)]

Yeah, I meant it a little bit. I went and saw it and thank God for people like Lou Elizondo and so many other real patriots, because, you know, Lou sort of was sort of like Bob Lazar. Oh, he didn't. They came out and said, oh, he didn't do that. And they tried to discredit him. And, you know, Lazar, they even said he didn't. And he produced a dadgum check stub to show that he did work for them. And so, you know, it's the same program. There's arrogance, there's power, there's control. They think they. They know what we can handle, and it's not their business to know that. And President Trump hit that nail right on the dadgum head.

[Sean]

We really appreciate your hard work, and I think the American people can handle whatever it is. And I think there is a lot more. Congressman Burchett, you're doing a great job.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

What, what would you say you do here, exactly?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

It looked like somebody was Bent over

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

and had their head in the window of the deer blind. And it either heard me or smelt me. And he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up. And that shocked me.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

They don't make people that that big.

[Unnamed Witness (Bear Encounter)]

The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language. And they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Nine one one, what are you reporting?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Jesus Christ.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

You better see Hel. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a is about 6 foot 9.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

I don't know.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Narrator]

Uhoh.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

This is Alicia from Canessa, Georgia, and you're listening to the best podcast on the planet, Sasquatch Chronicles.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Welcome to the show. Tonight is my part one of strange and unexplained encounters. We'll be speaking with Matt and Matt comes to us from Massachusetts and he had this really weird encounter with what I guess I'll call a person. I've heard this one other time and a lot of his details sound like the other person I talked to. And I kind of passed it off as maybe it was a Sasquatch, but now I'm not so sure. I know that's extremely vague, but I'll let Matt go into it. Matt also worked on the railroad and a lot of weird things happened in this one area of the tracks that he would constantly work. And then we'll be chatting with Jacob. And back in March, Jacob and a friend of his was returning from a trip down in Florida when this ball of light was following them. Jacob told me, you know, as they started to get nervous about it, he turned around and it blinked out. It was gone. And tomorrow night is even stranger. I'll let the members decide on this one. I'm 5050 on this one. I don't know if this guy ran into another human or if he ran into a Sasquatch. And this quote unquote human couldn't really talk. It would just mumble. And when you listen to the witness's description of this quote unquote person, I mean, it does sound more like a Sasquatch than it does a person. But that's for tomorrow night. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to Be on the show. Shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows, and I'll see the members back tomorrow night. Let's jump into it. I want to welcome Matt to the show. Matt, thanks for coming on.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Thank you, Wes. Glad to be here.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And the very first encounter I want to talk about happened to you in the early 2000s, and this happened out there in Massachusetts. If you would walk us into what happened. What were you doing, and what did you end up seeing?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

I was living down in Westport. It was the late spring of 2006. My ex's father had found this pretty cool spot to take the quads out by some power lines. Kind of like. It's like the woods on the edge of Dartmouth and Westport. It's been a lot of years since I've been there, and it was one Saturday morning. I didn't have any work. My. My ex's dad had said, hey, the trailer is hooked up to my truck if you want to, you know, throw your bike on it and go take it out for a little while. At that time, my ex and her mother had gone out shopping, and my daughter was, you know, not even a year old at the time.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Narrator]

Time.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

So they went off and did their own thing for the day, and I was like, okay, cool. So I loaded up my quad. I had an old blaster at the time. Mechanically, it was sound. Visually, looked like it was being held together with duct tape and bubble gum. It was just living on a dream. And he, you know, kind of pointed me in the right direction where this was. I'd been there, you know, a couple. Couple, three times, but never, never with the quad. Just doing, you know, normal kid stuff. So I got out there, got the. Got the quad off to the edge of the trail leading into, like, the power lines, and loaded everything back up in the truck. All the ratchet straps and whatnot. Locked the truck up, and, you know, went on about my way. I got about, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes into it. And the way that this. These power lines are set up, it's literally just straight. But you can see for over two miles. It's just straight. Not a lot of bumps. And we. We've gotten quads up, you know, pretty. Pretty high speed. Coming through there. I was probably doing about 40, 45. I also want to note about. I. We're going back some Years. I wasn't really judging distances back then, but I'd say probably about three quarters to a mile from where I had parked the truck. There's a big bowl, like in the middle of, of this trail. And we used to, you know, come off the edge of that trail into the bowl, catch air, come down and catch air again on the backside of this bowl. On the other side of this bowl, there is a giant rock. It's probably about 10ft tall. I couldn't even tell you the other. I never really stopped to look at this rock. I mean, it's a rock. I never really, you know, paid attention to it. This one particular day, it's out there by myself. It's probably about 75 degrees. I knew it was warmer. I had a T shirt on. And I see this guy walk out of the woods wearing an all blue tracksuit, pair of sunglasses. He had darker hair. I don't remember if it was black. I never got close enough to him anyway. Clean shave face. And he was kind of moving like, like jelly. Like he was so fluid in motion that he didn't like take normal steps. And he at that point must have heard my quad because he, he stopped walking forward, turned his head to the right, looked at me, and then did this. I don't even. It's like in. I don't even know how to explain it. It's not a human, like, motion. He jumped straight up in the air, landed right on top of this rock and perched up like a frog. I call him a frogman. But he didn't like bend his knees and jump, you know what I mean? Like, like a normal person would when they're about to jump. It's like he jumped off the balls of his feet and is like, I. I can't explain it. Nobody can jump like that. Like, it's a weird. It was, it was so weird. And when he landed perched up like a frog, butt on the ground, knees, you know, kind of pointed up to his chest and feet right between his hands, right between his feet, looked like a frog. That's why I call him the frogman. I don't. I don't know what else to. And his head was bobbing up and down and he creeped the out of me. I slammed on front back brakes in my quad and just looked at it for a second and his head was just doing this weird bob thing. And I literally blew a donut right there. And the trail went right back to the truck. I wasn't involved in that. No way. No way. The weirdest thing I've ever seen. It creeped me out. I tried telling my, my ex this time about it. She's like, what, what are you really saying right now? I'm like, never mind. I guess nothing. I saw nothing. Never mind. And I got, when I got back to the house, my ex's dad was like, damn, that was quick. And I was like, yeah, I guess I'm just not, not feeling it today. But that was, that was the incident that happened down in Westport, Darwin area, 20, 20 years ago, 2006.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

How far away from you was he, Matt? And if you would, would you describe him?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Well, I'm six foot tall and I've stood next to this rock before and the rocks, like I said, it's got to be easily 10ft. It's taller than I am. Much taller than I am. Yeah. I'd have to climb up it like you. There's no way anybody could jump that high. And I've got friends that do CrossFit. I even have a friend who owns a CrossFit gym. And there's, there's no way, there's no, absolutely no way without doing some sort of knee bending. As far as how far away he was, probably 50 yards, 60 yards maybe.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

His overall appearance, did it appear like a man or did it appear like a frog?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

No, he looked completely human. That's the part that was weird. It's completely human, just like a normal Joe. If you saw him on the side of the road, you wouldn't even think about it. I was just so. I've never been back to the spot. Even, even. I lived down in that area for another seven years. I never once went back because of it. That's how, how much it creeped me out. He, it's like, it's like he didn't even jump. He just like something picked him up off the ground and placed him like that's how. Like there was no body movement when he jumped. He just poof. Looked like Mario, you know what I mean? Like boing, like right up. Just perched up on a rock and his head was doing this weird bobble thing and it was, it was, it was, it was very odd, Very odd. Just a normal person who's clean shaved, you know, normal looking face, normal looking mouth, nose, ears, everything was normal. Pair of sunglasses, that was it. I, I remember the sunglasses because it wasn't really, it was like partly cloudy. Like it wasn't, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't, I was riding a quad and I didn't even have glasses. On and I was like, why is he wearing sunglasses? It's not even that bright out. He's in the woods. You know, I don't know. It was one of those things that stuck out to me over the years. Thinking about it and you know, trying to, trying to make some rationalization of somebody moving in and in a like, non human way, you know, I think

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

it's in Ohio they have the Loveland Frog Frogman. And I've never really paid that much attention to it. About three years ago, there was a guy in your general area that I interviewed. He didn't want it to air on the show because it was so weird, but it was at night. And what he told me that he saw was this humanoid figure. He said it looked like a man. He's more or less watching the outline of, of this thing. A little bit more than an outline. But I remember him talking about the way it jumped and the way it kind of landed. And he described it kind of like a frog, like how you are. And you know, I was thinking of maybe the Loveland frog incident, but I mean, this sounds like a man. I mean, well, his appearance anyway. What do you think it was? Do you think it was someone who was like, possessed?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

I have no idea. I mean, I, I, I honestly have no idea. I, I, no idea. For a long time I didn't even think about it. I'm like, I just, maybe I just didn't see that. That's fine. But you know, I did. I know what I saw. I was there. It freaked me out enough to, you know, to beat on my quad a little more and rip a pretty big donut and go away. It is crazy. As I was riding back, you know, at full speed at this point, I turned my head and looked back. He was still sitting on the rock. Like, I know we, you know, other instances of like Sasquatch will walk people out of the woods, chase him out, you know, intimidation. This guy did nothing. He just sat, continued until I lost sight of him. That was, that was the end of it. I mean, as soon I looked at him, I glanced, he was still there, freaked out again, kept driving. That was it. Never, never looked back further past that point. It was the most creepiest thing I've ever seen. I didn't know somebody could jump like that. Is, it's, it's a pretty high jump. Like nobody, I don't, there's no way, I don't care if any, how far you bent down to the ground to get leverage, there's no way you could jump 10ft as easily. 10ft? Yeah.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

It's very strange. And he was wearing clothes and everything.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Yeah. An all blue tracksuit.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Now it makes me wonder, while I wonder what you saw. But now it makes me wonder what that other guy saw, because I know he was kind of in your same general area of Dartmouth and.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Yeah, that's right on the Westboro line. That's right where I was like, if you drive far enough into those woods, if you go past that bowl where that. Where he was, where he did that. That weird frog jump, probably another. Oh, Jesus, 200 yards. You're in Dartmouth.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Now I'm really going back and kind of thinking about that interview I had with that guy, because he kind of said the same thing. His was at night, though, it wasn't during the day. And it was a little bit better than an outline. But I remember him talking about. He said it was kind of humanoid. I mean, it reminded him of a man. And it kind of did the same thing. Like it would jump really high and really far. And he said it land. When it would land, it would land like a frog. And I was thinking Sasquatch at the time, but I'd never heard of them doing something like that.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. It was the same person or a thing or whatever. I mean, I saw him clear as day. It was. It was one o' clock in the afternoon, maybe noontime. I saw him clear as clear as day. His. It's weird. Like I said I would. I saw him come out of the woods and I didn't think anything of it until he did that weird jump. And just a full vertical jump. Like it, like without any kind of, you know, any kind of physical exertion, just jumped right up, you know, I

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

interviewed this guy, this veteran, this is many, many shows ago, and he was telling me when he was in Iraq, he was walking down this alleyway, a pretty wide alleyway, and he sees this guy and they make eye contact and then the guy walks up the wall. And I said, whoa, what. What do you mean he walked up the wall? Like he was. Yeah, exactly. He walked up the wall. Like gravity didn't apply to this guy. And I was like, was he. Was it a ghost? And he's like, no, this looked like any other villager. He had clothes, he had. I mean, he was solid. And he just walked right up this wall and it freaked this guy out. I remember the soldier, I guess he talked to the locals and they basically told him he had run into a jinn, which in the Muslim culture is the same thing as, like, in the Christian culture. We call them demonstration. But it was a strange account. I mean, I don't know if it was something like that that you ran into. I. I don't know. I'm kind of at a loss. Even the gin story was kind of at a loss.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

I have no idea. I never questioned it. Afterwards, I thought about it. It was one of those things you got to keep to yourself. I remember a couple months after that telling my mom about it, and she was, you know, she's like, what do you. What do you. What are you saying right now? And I'm like, I guess nothing. Never mind. Everybody was, you know, the two people I've told about this were, you know, pretty in disbelief. And I was like, okay. I guess I'm just. How about those. How about this? We have a saying here. How about those Red Sox? Just to change the subject. How about those Red Sox?

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I hear you. I really wish I had a better answer for you. I've only heard it one other time. And like I said, I mean, looking back now, I'm kind of wondering what that guy actually saw. Tell me about working for the railroad and some of the different things that have happened out there. When was this? And if you would kind of walk me into some of this strangeness that happened out there.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

This was only a couple years ago. So, like I had said, I'd been in my industry for 20 something years and I got sick of it. You know, I needed a change of pace. So I had seen an ad for railroad, and I was, okay, cool, let's try it. I started working there early 2023. By June, I had left the union and took a supervisor position, a night shift supervisor position. It was. Nothing changed for me. I was already on night shift anyway. I still had kept this to the same two days off. Railroad days off. Weird. I had Tuesday, Wednesday off. That was my weekend. And when this incident happened was October of 2023. The way the railroad works, you have to have somebody at the tail of the train if you're doing a backwards, you know, backwards movement. And the crew had wanted to get out a little earlier. So I was like, okay, I'll go protect it. That's fine. So I was sitting out in the yard that we had five miles long, and you have your main line, and then they had like a siding line, and that's where the. The main railroad company would drop off the train. We would bring the train into the yard, stack it in five, you know, five Car length rows. And it was all auto racks. They'd unload all the vehicles off it, and we'd stack the cars back empty, put them back out on the siding for the. The rail company come and pick up. And that would just be a repetitive process day after day after day. Day shift was in charge of putting them on. On. On the tracks. We were in charge of taking the empty ones off and putting them back out. So it was the final, final movement of the night was like the last 15 or 16 cars in the yard we were putting out. I don't know if, you know, a train system works off compressed air. When there's no air in the system, the brakes are completely applied. When you add air to the system, it releases the brakes. That's how it can move. Each rail car is held together with like, an air hose coupling. Got a big air hose, too. Is thick. It's probably as thick as a baseball bat. It's, it's. It's a big air hose. So when you hook in with, you know, a little bit of cars into a lot of bit of cars, it takes a while to air all that up. So anywhere from, you know, 15 to 20 minutes or whatever, you'd sit there and wait to air it up. Depending on who was driving and depending on whether they wanted their overtime that week, it could take longer. You get what I'm saying? So I was sitting out the tail. I had the pickup truck for the yard. And this pickup truck has every LED light option possible on the outside. You know, I'm talking like a light bar on the grill, one on the roof right above the windshield. It's got the LED bulbs on the side of the bed. And it lights up. You can see if you're out in the middle of it, in on the tracks. You know, we call it the siding. You're out on the siding with those lights on. You can see, depending on where you're at, a good quarter mile of just. It's just so bright. Like, everything is so bright. So I was sitting there and I was waiting for. Waiting for the, the engineer to give me the signal that everything's aired up and he's ready to move. And I could tell him, you know, he's clear for however X amount of cars he can keep, you know, start moving. And I was sitting there, and my, My phone had just died. Like, my personal phone had just died. And so I was bummed out about that. I'm like, what am I gonna do now for 20 minutes? And anyway, this tree, it's A limb. I want to say it's definitely a limb because it had no other branches off of it. Comes flying out of the woods like a spear right into the side of the rail car, impales it and it touches the inside of the other, the other side of the rail car. And it's just sticking out of the rail car. Thing had to weigh, it's probably 30ft long. At the fed end was roughly about, I don't know, probably two feet around at the skinny pointy end was about a foot. And something threw it with so much force it impaled the rail car right through it. Like a spear. It looked like. And I, I hunt a lot and it looks like, honestly what it looked like. I don't know if you, you know, ever hunter use a compound bow. But like when you, we launch an arrow down into like a foam block. If you're looking, you can see the tail end of the, of the arrow shaking where the, the knock is. And I'm like, oh my God, is I, I, my heart sank right down to my feet. I'm like, what, what is that? What am I looking at? So I threw my truck in reverse. I got on the radio, told the engineer to dump the train because I, you know, I didn't know what it was, things sticking out 30ft past. If the train came by, it's gonna hit it. So I threw in reverse, got to the turnaround point behind me and started heading back towards our, you know, our main yard. And I called my advisor at the time and I told him what had happened and he said, oh my God. All right, I'm getting dressed, I'll be there in like 40 minutes. He lived like 40 minutes away. I said, all right, cool. I got down to the locomotive, told the engineer in person what had happened, and he's like, what? I'm like, yeah. Yep. Something launched a tree out of the woods. And I gotta, just for some context, declaring from like tree line to tree line is roughly about 200ft. And with the brightness of the truck with all the LEDs on it, you can see a good 15, 20ft into the tree line. There was nothing there, nothing there at all. So something threw this thing far and hard enough to impale a rail car. So I went back to, you know, waiting for the supervisor to get my supervisor to get on site and it was gone. Limb is gone. Pulled out, just a big basketball sized hole in the rail car. Some bark on the ground and some bark on the inside of the rail car. That's it. Limbs just missing like somebody reached up, grabbed it and walked off with it. No wood, no splinters, just, you know, bark in a giant, perfectly, you know, round hole in the side of the rail car where it got impaled.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Oh, ma', am, I'm not even sure what to say. I've heard some strange accounts from guys who work on the railroad, but what was kind of going through your mind, especially going back and it's gone.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

That's, that creeped me out more than, than watching it happen like in, in real time, like I was. It's crazy. It's one of those things that you people like. Would you sure you didn't catch that out of the corner? I know I, I was looking straight ahead. It was only about 30ft away from me. Probably about, I don't know, maybe 10, 10, 12ft off the ground. I mean, a rare car for these specific rail cars, just for, for context, they're about 145ft long, 20ft tall, and I don't know, 10, maybe 12ft wide. Big enough for a vehicle, you know, full size truck.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

You know, there's, there's a lot of weird accounts around the railroad and around railroad workers and I've heard some odd ones. And I don't know what your feelings about Sasquatch were at the time, but I mean, a man's not going to throw that. I can't think of anything. I mean, if you don't believe in Sasquatch, then it must have been a giant that threw that beyond. Thank God that didn't hit me. I mean, what did you think actually through that, that tree? Especially like a spear. Jesus.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Oh. I've always been a firm believer of Sasquatch. I mean, I mean, look at it this way. Aliens exist. Like we know this because our own government has released all the files they had. So why wouldn't you think that something like that exists as well? Like, you know what I mean? Like I think, I think aliens is pretty much top of the top of the line. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's one of those things that kind of destroys religion a little bit. And that's first thing went through my head. I was like, it had to have been something like that. What else could throw a 400 pound, 300 pound branch? Like, like a Spartan spear. Like I was against Gerard Butler in the woods. I didn't know what was going on. It was, it was, it was such a wild sight to see this thing fly perfectly straight. It wasn't flying. Like, like the tail of it dipped Down. It was perfectly straight, like something purposely through this. And it's funny, I've listened to, you know, some of your shows and you hear all these, you know, they see these things and I don't think other people understand the sheer strength they actually do have. And I got, at least for me, it was reversed. I saw the strength. I never saw what threw it. But if that's the case, I don't ever want to see what through that.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I don't blame you. And then to have it not be there, to have something actually pull it out when you went back to look at it. That is weird, man. What happened when your supervisor got there?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Oh, he's like, you know, we're just gonna pretend this never happens. Don't ever tell anybody this because you're, you're, you're gonna need an evaluation. I was like, I'm just, I'm like, I looked at. We'll call him Bill. I'm like, bill, you can see the hole. You can see the bark. You know, I'm not crazy. You can see the evidence. Like, who? How'd that happen? Tell me. I'd love to. I'd love to hear your explanation of how you think that perfect, round, basketball size hole wound up in the side of that rail car with all the tree bark all over the place. I'd love to hear your explanation. He's like, well, you know, it's windy here. And I'm like, there's no wind, dude. Let's not, let's not. It just kind of just got dropped and brushed off. And we had like, he was even throughout, like, well, maybe, maybe, you know, a hot main came by and hit it. And I'm like, well, if that was the case, they would have hit it at windshield level of the logo and the driver would have dumped the train or put it into suppression. Something would have happened. We would have heard them come by. I mean, even the regulation for, for the company around here is when they're coming through the signals at each end of our yard, they have to radio ahead to make sure we're not out there or no, somebody's not, you know, and we have to confirm that there's nobody out there. So there's like a three point, like radio response that actually absolutely has to happen. If it doesn't, they will sit and wait until you confirm you're not in the way. They don't just drive through.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And to have him kind of dismiss it is weird. I know from talking to you last night. There was other things that happened in this general area. But his explanation of, like, the wind. I mean, unless there was like, a hurricane that went through there.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Yeah, no, there was definitely no hurricane. I can confirm that it was. Like I said, it was the beginning of October, probably second week. That hunting season had just started here. It usually starts around, like, the. The seventh or so in October, Depending on where in the state you live. But I mean, yeah, no, it was no wind. I mean, leaves are just starting to fall. I mean, it was, you know, like I said, I could see into the woods. And that's not even one of the weirdest things. There's so many weird things that I've had happen on that railroad at night over the almost two years I worked there.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, tell me about some of the weird things.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

So it's very. Not on. It's not uncommon at all for deer to get hit by trains. And I'm sure you can imagine what happens to a deer that gets hit by a, you know, a freight train that's two miles long traveling at 40, 50 miles an hour. I mean, there's pieces and parts go everywhere. There was one night I was protecting it again. This is. It was in the summer of this same exact year. And I was driving down. There's a. A spot on the siding where you get onto the siding from the main road. And just. Just at that point. And it's at the same exact. Almost the same exact point as, you know, the tree branch. And come to think of it, all the. The weird incidences have happened around that same exact area of. Of the yard. And I was driving, and I look. You look up and I can see a bunch of deer laying on the. On the. Not on the tracks, but on the. The driving part of the siding. And as I'm driving, I'm protecting it, so I can't stop. So I drove, you know, did my thing with. Protected it. And, you know, the crew took over after that, you know, cutting away and all that stuff. And I drove back, and I'm looking at these deer. They're completely intact. Not a drop of blood, not nothing. No blood, no nothing. Nothing there. And their necks are twisted. Look at. Somebody snapped something. Snapped their necks. There were six of them. Six does. Just heads completely twisted around. That was it. Just left there in a pile. Very odd. It just left it like it didn't even bother. They just. It was almost like they're trying to block the road with deer. You know what I mean? It's very. It's very unsettling, Especially the first thing Went through my head is me being a hunter was. What a waste. You know, those are some good, some good potential. Potential deer. When we run out of buck tags here and I don't know if this is anything related, but we. There's some giant snapping turtles there around, around the pond portion of the. Of the yard. And I'm talking like 30, 40 pound snapping turtles. Shell is completely hollowed out. There was one time in the winter that year it was probably, you know, it might have even been January of 2024. I was working the crew because they had a void and the engineer wanted his hours. So here he is going out and he dumped the train. Oh, I don't know what just happened. And regulations on railroad regulations are if that ever happens, you have to walk the entire length of the train. One person on each side walk it. So you could see if there was a break in the airlines connecting the. The rail cars. And as I'm walking, I'm on the. Let's see if you're facing, the train's facing, you know, to the direction of walking. I'm on the right hand side. And there was a bare leg. An entire bl. There's a big population of black bear there too. It was a whole bear leg just laying there and a blood trail going off into the woods. That was it. And here we don't have, you know, like mountain lions and all that crazy stuff. I mean we've got bobcats and such, but nothing that's crazy enough to take down a black bear. Just a big black bear leg, front leg laying there. Ripped. It was ripped. It was ripped off. Like you, you could tell by the. The width of meat was torn. It was ripped off. And it wasn't there a couple hours before and we weren't out there and it was on like our yard side of the main line. So it definitely. There would have been a splatter, unfortunately. This sounds disgusting, but I've watched, I've watched deer get hit by the train. And it's kind of like the pink mist is just poof. You know, it's a freight train has a big snow plow on the front of it. It's like a big blade. You hit, you know, you hit a. Hit a deer. It's just. Sorry, it's gonna pop. It is what it is. All of it's in the same area, like a good half mile to a mile stretch of this. This controlled siding.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, it's very interesting that it's all kind of happening in the same area along the tracks all the deer being piled up with their necks broke and that bare leg. In all your time out there, did you ever see the lights we talk about on the show in this general area?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

You know, I did see something with lights. I don't know if it's the same thing that you have had. Had other. Other people mention. So at the far east end of our yard, there's a turnaround right by the signal. And there's no. Really no access roads. And I just got done protecting a movement, and I had to drive down further, probably another, I don't know, half mile, three quarters mile to hit this turnaround spot. And when I did that, you know, turned around and came back, and I seen these two. I thought they were headlights because they were perfectly spaced apart. And just high enough off the ground. It would.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

You.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Anybody would think it's headlights. It came, and I stopped the truck because there's only room for one vehicle to go through there. And the headlights just turned off. And so I was sitting there for a minute, and I'm like, I don't know what's going on. So I threw up all the side lights, and nothing was there. Nothing at all. Nothing was there. It was just like a vehicle had just disappeared. Nothing was there. There's that. I don't know what else to say about it. It was just gone. So I don't know if that's what that is. It looked. It. Honestly, it just looked like headlights.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. That's a very strange account. I want to go back to the spear for a moment. If that was a sasquatch, which I don't know what else could do that. What do you make of that behavior? It's almost like it was angry at the train or something.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Thinking back about it now, it's that, you know, must have been his. His little area for that time being. And me sitting there must have given him an uncomfortable feeling. I don't think it was an anger towards the train. I think it was a message to me, like, dude, leave again. You need to. You need to get out of here. This isn't. This isn't where you want to be. And he was right. That is definitely not where I wanted to be. It is. I wish. I wish that I was allowed to carry my gun with me. Because after that, I mean, even. Even that aside, we've had issues with, like, the rail cars that come from Mexico, like the Hondas and stuff, where there was a. Another friend of mine that worked there, and he said that he come out on the siding one night and Seen three Land Rovers fly down. It's a big good cartel, you know, issue with them hiding stuff in their cars and then coming back to pick them up with the train stops. We've. We've opened up rail cars and seen the tires missing, batteries missing, radios ripped out of it, all the quarter panels ripped off of it, but left there tires with, you know, just gashes in them left there crazy stuff. So honestly, a lot of the stuff that goes through, through your mind out there is more so like human on human, you know, I don't want everyone to be in that situation, you know, seeing something out there like that that was in my head long before this tree incident. So, I mean, that was just one more layer. And I'm like, great, I gotta look out for this now too. It's just weird stuff. Like, weird stuff you can't even explain. You can try to. It's just. It's just odd. Very odd behavior. There was a weird owl incident. Oh, I'm. I gotta know too. Driving up, down that siding, I don't think I've ever been in a vehicle that's been hit by so many birds ever. They just fly out of the wood line, slam into the driver's window and then fly back off. An owl, a giant owl, did it one time. I mean, I'm not a specialist on owls. I don't know what kind it was, but I knew it was an owl. I see the space because it waited right in the window at the window of my. The truck I was driving. I was sitting out there one night, again, protecting the shelves, right around the same area. And I heard something. You know how an owl sounds like. But it was like a grown man, like, trying to. To mimic an owl. It was like, who? And I was. It kind of made me laugh. I was like. And like, who? That was kids playing around. But it also. It's one o' clock in the morning. I mean, in a area where there's really no houses, nobody around it. It's a, you know, a quiet little town anyway. And then it happened again, but louder. And I never got creeped out of it. It just. It made me laugh. It was funny. I was like, that's the best you got? That was the best you could. You could do. So that was. That was one of the other incidents. And I didn't, I didn't think about it until all the other, you know, started cascading onto each other. I'm like, okay, well, obviously there's something, something else there. It was very strange. That was. That was strange, but it was hilarious at the time. I don't know, I thought it was just hilarious. Somebody trying to imitate an owl that didn't come anywhere close.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

You'll often hear eyewitnesses report the owl sound or something mimicking an owl. Some people will say it was like an 800 pound owl. I heard it one time in Texas and it really sounded like an owl in the beginning but as it went on it started to fall apart. I mean it sounded more and more like a man. And by the end, I mean I can't do an owl sound. It sounded like me trying to do an owl sound.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

That's exactly what it sounded like. It sounded like a full grown man on the other side of the train trying to sound like an owl. But like the most low pitched voice. It was strange, it was a very low pitched who. And it was clear clearly who like. And it was dead quiet. There was nothing going on, the train wasn't moving, nothing was coming. It was, you know, like I said one o' clock in the morning, we're around there. We were all about to get out of, just about to get out of work. So I mean it was, yeah, it knows it was, you could, you could hear a pin drop. It was pretty quiet.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

And I'm curious to know what you think Sasquatch is. Before I ask you that though, did any of your co workers ever talk about these creatures possibly being around? I mean there's a lot of weird stuff going on.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

One guy had mentioned it after the Bear Lake incident because it was kind of like at the junction of a rail car, the two rail cars. So as we were going down I yelled to him like hey, come look at this. And you know the bear leg. And he's like whoa. He's like dude, what could do that? I'm like, I don't know. I mean around most parts, the bear, black bear. I mean, I know they don't generally get big. I mean we're not talking Kodiak size, but I mean for, for a black bear they get, they get you know, decent sized here. I mean my buddy and I, we had one on our, on our kill list when we were hunting and she was, it was a sow and she was roughly about, she was tagged and collared and they were, you know, DCRs, the, like the wildlife division here, they were tracking her movement through, you know, satellite and she was, she was up over 650 as a big black bear. So I mean, but I don't, I don't know what could have done that. And him. And he's like, oh, it's a bigfoot. I'm like, shut up. You know what I mean? Like, shut up, Bigfoot. But, yeah, it's in the back of my head. I'm like, he's probably right, because what else could rip a leg off like that? It wasn't even near the track. You know what I mean? I know he didn't get hit because on that side, the only one that could have hit the bear would have been our own engineer. And if he knew that kid, he was very skittish. There was no way, you know, if it rains too hard, he's making it very, very vocalized that it's raining. So if he had hit a bear, we would never have heard the end of it.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

What do you think Sasquatch is?

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

I don't know. I mean, there's so many theories out there. I. I think it's real. I think it's alive. I don't think it's some mystic creature, Whether it's from here or from a different, you know, planet or whatever. I think it's. It's just. I don't. I. I honestly don't know. I'd love to be honest. I'd love to see one just look at it, be like, wow, that's. That's. That's cool. I'd like to see that. I don't know what it is. I know it. You know, I think it's not human, but I think it's. It's definitely flesh and blood.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I think that they're very flesh and blood, too. I think that's where the fear comes from. You know, you run into something and you realize this thing could do whatever it wanted, and there's nothing I could do to stop it. But I really appreciate you taking the time to come on that first encounter with that weird guy. That'll stay with me. And there was a lot of weird stuff going on at that railroad. I really enjoyed chatting with you, Matt. Thank you again.

[Matt (Railroad Worker and Witness)]

Yeah, man, I appreciate being on been.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Next up on the show, I want to welcome Jacob. Jacob, thanks for coming on, man.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Yeah, thank you, Wes. Appreciate you having me on here.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

And you had this strange encounter back in March. If you would. Would you start from the very beginning? What were you doing and what happened?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Okay, so we were. I had one of my buddies, He's a airline pilot. I'm in the. The shipping industry. So we kind of. We click, you know, and we're headed back down from. Is the 12 hours of Sebring which is a 12 hour car race in Sebring, Florida. And if you don't know anything about Sebring, Florida, there's nothing out there. It's basically a racetrack. So we're headed back down Highway 27 and there's not a whole lot, there's not a lot of traffic on the road. It's a pretty barren area, a lot of just grass farmland and it's very dark. And we're going along and my buddy's driving us his truck. He has a Ford Raptor. So it's a, it's a full size truck which will come into play here in a little bit. He says, hey man, what is that light behind us? And you know, I'm not really thinking too much of it. I look in the side view mirror and I'm like, I. It was a, a very dull, it was white, it was very circular, it was a very dull blue. This wasn't some big bright shiny light. I mean, I want to emphasize that it wasn't huge between, it's between a baseball and a bowling ball. I would say probably closer to the baseball size, maybe a little bit bigger. This was, it was right off the bed of the truck. And I say he's got a Ford Raptor. I mean that truck is, it's a pretty big truck, you know, for what it is. So the distance wise, that's what I'm trying to use my best depth perception on. The size of this thing. It was almost when I was looking in the side view mirror, I mean it was clearly following us. I mean there's no doubt about that. And I'm telling my buddy that I know what, like we're looking at it at an orb, you know what that is? I don't know, but I know it wasn't headlights. I mean like I said, I'm very well versed. And navigational lights, beacons, satellites, stars. Of course he is, he's an airline pilot. And this wasn't anything like something I've ever seen personally. And I look in the rear view mirror and still clear as day there to me where it got weird was undid my seat belt. I turned around and looked at it and I would say less than 3 seconds the thing disappeared. And it just disappeared. And I'm not saying it shot off or anything. It's almost like it just disappeared, you know, and it's just, I don't know, it's. I've been thinking about it every night and it's just, it's strange, I guess to say the least, you know. And that image is so perfect in my head, you know, what I saw. And there's no doubt about what I saw. It's just. I really don't know what it was.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

That is weird how it kind of just vanished on you. And you said it was about the size of a bowling ball or a softball.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Well, I would say, like I said, I was trying to use my best depth perception because I want to be as accurate as possible from the, from that distance. You know, if I were to say the bowling ball hat was able to light up, you know, it was somewhere between the bowling ball and the baseball. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't overly huge, to say the least. You know, this was not a huge object. I would say definitely between the baseball and the bowling ball. Exactly how big. I have a hard time putting, you know, my, my finger on it, but it was in that 100%, in that size range.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

How close was it to the truck as creepy it was following you?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Well, see, this is where, this is where we had the talk is where it got really got weird for me. When I first looked at it out the side view mirror, I was thinking, I don't know, I guess it didn't click to me how close this thing really was. And after I turned around, I clearly saw how close it was then. But my buddy that was driving, he said, hey, that thing was literally like almost over the bed of the truck. And I was thinking, I was like, it was, I mean, that's where it was. And when you say he wasn't following the truck 100%. And the thing that gets me, the more I think about this whole encounter was how long was it following the truck? You know, if that makes. Because he just happened to look up at that time. I don't know how often he was looking up. He just happened to look in his rearview mirror and see that whatever it is, why was it following us? You know, if it wasn't right over the back of the bed of the truck, it was right on the tailgate. I mean, it was, it was there. Like, that's why I mentioned the whole, you know, we're in a Ford Raptor, not a huge truck, but a full size truck. I don't really know the exact dimensions, but, you know, I mean, that's so. From us being in the front seat, I mean, you're talking probably less than 15ft from us. I mean, that's, that's how close this thing was. This thing, it didn't shoot up. You know, I Would have definitely. Like, I have an eye, you know, I can see. You know, it's like, I would have definitely saw it. Like, you know, a shooting star. I mean, you're gonna see a thing shoot across the sky. This thing didn't shoot up, move. Like, it's like, wherever it was, it disappeared from that spot. You know, that's. That's the part that. The whole thing's creepy, you know, kind of. I have a lot of questions about it, but that part right there was like, all right. That really just happened, you know, and nobody. And that's another issue. I'm glad I had a witness, you know, I had. There was two of us there to say that I'm not crazy.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

You know, that is weird how it just kind of vanished. I know that you're a merchant marine. I mean, you're used to seeing signals and lights and, you know, this is a light you've never seen before. And your buddy's a pilot. What did your buddy say about the whole thing afterwards?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

You know, we. We talked about it. And I mean, he said, like, we were both. I mean, were we tired? Yes, but we weren't, like, hallucinating tired. Like, we were just. It's just a long day, you know? And when this happened, we were both like. I mean, ultra alert after that. You know, we were looking the whole time back home. We both did this. We were hoping that it was a headlight. Like, we. I mean, I. I can vividly remember just looking back at the course and thinking, I wish one of those headlights would look like what we just saw. And it wasn't. It just wasn't. So he. He wasn't, as I say, shocked. I. I think the adrenaline at the moment, you know, like, the. The surprise of it all, you know, I don't think either one of us were just overly shaken up right then. But when we got back, we both agree. We talked about it. I said, for one, nobody's ever going to believe us about this. I mean, it's like. I mean, I personally don't know a whole lot of people that can just say, oh, this is what we saw. And they're gonna be like, oh, yeah, totally agree. You know, that's what you saw. We just said, we know what we saw, and we didn't know what we saw. So that's kind of. That's kind of. What's his take on. It was, we know what we saw, but can't put a finger on it.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

And I've talked about, on the show about me and my brother Seeing the light and how it actually followed us, but it wasn't. It wasn't that close to our car. It was more or less kind of up in the tree line following us. But I'm telling you, if it would have been right on the bumper, I probably would have freaked out a lot more. In your gut, what do you think that light was?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

I mean, I. I'd say it's something. It's got to be tied to UFOs some way. I mean, that's just my personal take on this, I think. I don't know. What if this is like their. You know, we have security cameras. You know, we have all these drones and all this. That do surveillance on our enemies and all that. What's to say that's not their version of surveillance? You know, like, maybe that's some way that they, hey, we're going to send these little. Whatever it is down. Let's do some research on these guys. You know, I mean, I. I don't know. I really don't know, but that's. That's the only thing I can think of in my head that these could. And I don't want to think that because that's terrifies me, but I mean, what else could they be, you know?

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I used to think that too. I used to think, God, that, you know, some sort of drone makes the most sense, but it's just a weird light. I mean, there's. It's not really like a structure or like a craft. I think I lean more towards spirits, but I can't really prove that. That's just my opinion, of course.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

No, I know. And I actually. I'm not sure what your take is on this, but a few weeks ago, I actually watched David Pilates. The American Sasquatch, he goes, you know, it touches on the orb thing, you know, the. The lights in the woods, you know, in those same areas, Sasquatches and all that, you know, it's like, is there a correlation? You know, I mean, it kind of makes you wonder, like, is there some kind of. Because you're talking about the spiritual part of it, you know, for what. What we think Sasquatch could be, you know, if it's like the Native Americans talk about being a spiritual being, you know, I mean, I'm really not sure. It's kind of. It's a very hard, very hard question to wrap your head around, you know, of what it really is.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

What's kind of your interest with Sasquatch and what do you think that they are?

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

So my interest with them is actually started as one of my first jobs right out of college. We were working on ships. You know, you're going for a long time, so you get to know everybody you're working with. And I had a guy that had a very credible encounter in North Carolina, just outside of Beaufort, North Carolina. And it just all. I mean, the backstory, everything kind of lined up with it. And then he recommended me to start listening to this podcast. So I was like, you know, like, I've always. Like, I've never. Not. Not Bigfoot, Sasquatch. Like, I grew up hunting, fishing. Like, there's. There's woods. I can take you 20 minutes off the road where I am right now, that me and you can't walk there. You know, physically, like, we would struggle to walk through. And to say that there's not something out there that we haven't found yet, I think is, you know, it's a little ignorant in my opinion. But so I've always kind of been around it, and then I've heard. Like I said, I've talked to him. And then another guy had a credible story in Louisiana that I worked with. And then the last one that really got me into it was a guy that lived just outside Jacksonville that I was working with back in. It was June of 25, 2025, and he actually was seeing the lights on the property also. That's kind of what got me into it. And then when I first got into this, just like I think everybody else, I always thought Sasquatch was, hey, this is an undiscovered, very intelligent primate that we just haven't caught up to. And I think a lot of people think that. And the more I dig into this, I. I don't think that's. I think there's more to it. You know, I think I've heard the stories of the. The whistleblower that says they're aliens. I've heard some of those stories. I personally think that after watching some of the documentaries that it's almost like these things are interdimensional, you know, the unexplained, where people find footprints and all of a sudden they disappear in snow where there's plenty of more snow that those footprints would have stuck in. So my take on Sasquatches is it's living and breathing when we see it. And I think there's. It's got some kind of ability that we just, as humans, either we cannot see, we don't understand, or both. Yeah, so that's. That's kind of my viewpoint on this, on what a Sasquatch is.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, There is a lot of weird things that happen when these creatures are around that don't happen when normal animals are around. And then what's the deal with these weird lights showing up? The whole thing is a weird mystery. And I know it was kind of a brief encounter with the light, but I really appreciate you sharing it. I'd never heard of a light encounter like that before. And I can't thank you enough for taking the time to come on. I really enjoyed chatting with you.

[Jacob (Merchant Marine and Witness)]

Yes, sir. And I appreciate you having me, Wes. And like I said, I really do appreciate everything you do for the people like me, you know, who just really just need somebody that will actually listen and take it for what it is. So really appreciate it.

[Wes (Podcast Host)]

Thanks again, Jacob. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

[Podcast Intro/Outro Narrator]

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