SC EP:1267 The massive chainsaw fart Part 1

Summary

Sasquatch Chronicles – Bigfoot Encounters

Episode SC EP:1267 "The Massive Chainsaw Fart Part 1"

Released: June 21, 2026
Host: Wes
Guests: Jeremiah, Jacob (aka "Nacho"), Toren
Theme: Firsthand Bigfoot encounter in Missouri and group investigation reactions

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Episode Overview

This episode is dedicated to the exploration of an extraordinary and unsettling Bigfoot encounter at Fort Crowder Conservation Area near Neosho, Missouri. Wes hosts Jeremiah and Jacob, lifelong friends and cryptid enthusiasts, who recount their July 2025 experience alongside friend Toren—a reluctant third party. More than just an eyewitness account, the episode dives into the emotional atmosphere of unexplained encounters and blends camaraderie, skepticism, humor, and primal fear. The first half of their adventure in Missouri forms the core, with a promise of Part 2 (covering Honabi, Oklahoma) to come.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Remembrance and Humor (00:05 – 09:40)

• Wes opens with a touching memorial for friend Brent Thomas, recounting fond memories with humor, including online gaming and paranormal prankery.
  • Quote: “Sheldon's grandchildren will know my name. It’s what his father would have wanted.” – Wes (00:54)
• The segment includes a satirical Frank Hansen impersonation, highlighting the Minnesota Iceman legend with comedic effect.
• Tone: Nostalgic, compassionate, playful.

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2. Introducing the Encounter: Missouri Instead of Honabi (11:47 – 12:41)

• The group originally planned a trip to Honabi (famous for Bigfoot activity), but circumstances shifted them to Neosho, Missouri, and the Fort Crowder area.
• Jeremiah and Jacob describe their backgrounds as lifelong Bigfoot and cryptid fans, nurtured by curiosity and classic paranormal media ("Finding Bigfoot," "Monster Quest").
  • Quote: “The whole idea of, like, what's essentially a monster... as a kid, what do you—Bigfoot’s pretty much a monster, right? He's like a real-life monster.” – Jacob (13:23)
• Motivation: Casual late-night adventure, only lightly thinking of Bigfoot.

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3. Entering the Woods: Underprepared and Unaware (16:22 – 19:09)

• The trio sets out with no gear—no flashlights, hiking equipment, or serious preparation, aside from their phone lights (one at only 7% battery).
• Their plan is simply to find a picturesque pond shown on Google but quickly realize the area is much more rugged and gloomy than expected: just darkness and dense woods.

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4. Strange Events Begin: Rock-Throwing Incident (20:09 – 22:19)

• While horsing around, Jacob emits the titular "massive chainsaw fart," which triggers laughter—then sudden fear as a rock is heard landing near them, thrown from the darkness.
  • Quote: “I heard something land behind me… Jay lets out this yelp and starts booking it down the trail…” – Jacob (21:34)
• Jay (Jeremiah) describes instant, visceral terror from the sound behind a bush, leading to panicked sprinting—further into the woods, not toward safety.

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5. Sensation of Being Watched & Animal-like Behaviors (24:58 – 26:11)

• The group experiences growing unease, reporting subtle noises paralleling their movement and persistent feelings of being watched.
• A notable scream from Toren attempts to scare off whatever is lurking—resulting in only more creeping dread as an unseen presence slinks away.
• Hints emerge of “grumbling” or growling noises—described as “like a stomach growling.”

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6. The Rhythmic Thumping Phenomenon (28:30 – 31:28)

• A series of rhythmic, dense thumping or “ground-pounding” sounds follows them along the trail.
  • Quote: “It wasn’t even really wood knocks… it was like something just smacking the ground as hard as it could.” – Jeremiah (30:38)
• The group tries to rationalize these as fireworks, but the rhythm and proximity suggest otherwise—especially as the sound consistently paces them.

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7. Path Obstruction: The Freshly Broken Trees (31:28 – 35:18)

• Encountering a large (and clearly fresh) fallen tree across the trail, the mood turns ominous.
• Jacob links this to classic Bigfoot “get out” behavior: blocking paths to warn or intimidate humans.
  • Quote: “I remember, like, the hair standing up on my… on my neck, because I was like, that’s… that’s not… that’s not normal.” – Jacob (33:24)
• Toren senses breathing or movement high in the treeline, causing a consensus to retreat.

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8. Escaping and the Second Rock-Throw (36:38 – 42:04)

• On leaving, the “ground pounding” intensifies and follows them.
• As they approach their exit, a rock is hurled, violently smacking a tree right beside Jay’s head.
  • Quote: “It was almost like, you know, something claps their hands right next to your ear… I could feel it.” – Jeremiah (37:47)
• They speed-walk to the car, noticing an eerie silence broken only when they near safety (crickets and wildlife finally resume).

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9. Strange Aftermath: The Mystery of the Wildflowers (43:19 – 44:08)

• Upon returning at daylight, the friends revisit the “barrier” tree and notice something inexplicable:
  • The prior night, Jay had idly stuck a wildflower into a tree crook. Now, a second identical flower had been placed beside it.
  • Quote: “Someone with hands put that there, and it wasn’t us.” – Jacob (44:08)

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10. Analyzing the Tree Barrier (47:20 – 49:16)

• Close inspection shows two trees, both freshly and crudely snapped (not wind-felled or uprooted), crossed in an ‘X’ across the trail—classic “stay out” sign from some Bigfoot lore.
• The trees’ positions and breaks do not suggest weather or human tool use.

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11. Return at Night: Audio Evidence & Further Encounters (51:44 – 61:19)

• Jeremiah and Jacob make a follow-up night visit, this time with flashlights and better intentions to document.
• Upon whooping, an immediate, loud “boom” echoes from the woods—captured on audio.
  • Quote: “I go out here, I do big footy thing. Big footy thing happens immediately…” – Jacob (53:33)
• Both men feel physically lower on the food chain, haunted by the idea that a massive, intelligent creature is within 30 yards.
• Jay perceives movement paralleling their car, while both feel an “off” vibe and high anxiety.
• On a group revisit (with more friends), Jay spots a golden-brown form ducking behind a bush that, in daylight, proves to be over 6’ tall (plus a deep ditch behind it), indicating whatever hid there had considerable size.

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12. Evaluating Skepticism Within the Group (49:16 – 50:41)

• Their more skeptical friend Toren first scoffs but later admits he felt “watched” and fled because of genuine, inexplicable dread.
• The group discusses the difference between what could be written off as mundane and experiences that defy easy rationalization.

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Memorable Quotes

Wes:

• “Sheldon's grandchildren will know my name. It's what his father would have wanted.” (00:54)
• "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it." (09:40)

Jeremiah:

• "You almost feel like you're in danger. If I don't leave, I'm gonna get hurt. It was that sense of dread..." (38:16)
• "There wasn't, like, a cracker clack... you get that feeling of, like, knowing something... is there and it does not want you there." (41:00, paraphrased)

Jacob:

• "Going into those woods, there was like, a general sense of unease, at least for me personally. The vibe was a little off." (33:24)
• "Someone with hands put that there, and it wasn't us." (44:08)
• "You realize, oh, you're not ready for this. It's kind of like, wow, this thing... it's on a level that you aren't." (54:26)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:05 – Emotional tribute to Brent Thomas, setting the episode's reflective tone.
• 21:34 – First rock-thrown incident & group’s reaction.
• 28:30 – Introduction of rhythmic thumping/ground pounding; group’s attempts to explain it.
• 31:28 – Encounter with large, freshly fallen tree; immediate atmosphere shift.
• 37:47 – Second rock thrown just inches from Jay’s head; emerging fear.
• 43:55 – Discovery of the “gifted” wildflower next to Jay’s original.
• 47:20 – Analysis of the fallen trees’ placement and freshness.
• 53:33 – Audio-captured “boom” after a whoop; escalating encounter.
• 61:19 – Jay spots massive creature ducking behind a tall bush; size implications.

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Tone & Style

• Language: Conversational, genuine, irreverent at times, analytical yet excitable.
• Atmosphere: A blend of humor (the “chainsaw fart”), creeping unease, and candid camaraderie.
• Perspective: The voices of amateur investigators—honest about their fear, excitement, and skepticism.

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Episode Takeaways

• The Fort Crowder encounter is an emotionally charged, physically perilous night that combines classic Bigfoot lore with authentic personal vulnerability.
• Both objective observation and subjective emotion are critical: the physical evidence (tree structures, rock throws) is matched by powerful feelings of dread and awe.
• The group’s contrasting personalities—Jacob’s open wonder, Jeremiah’s cautious analysis, Toren’s initial skepticism—add credibility and nuance.
• The episode concludes with unresolved questions and hints at further adventure, inviting listeners for Part 2 (Honabi) and continued Bigfoot exploration.
  • Quote: "Definitely not an area that really has any... reports, in that particular area in Missouri." – Jacob (64:58)

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For more detailed evidence (photos, audio), listeners are invited to visit the Sasquatch Chronicles website. Part 2 will explore the team's long-anticipated Honabi, Oklahoma expedition.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[Jacob]

Foreign.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

As I spoke about on last night's show, my dear friend Brent Thomas passed away last Sunday. I really am in shock, and I don't think his passing has really hit me yet. I guess deep down, I don't want to believe it. The guy you saw on the air every week on the paranormal portal, who was kind and truly cared about people, that was the same guy off the air. I have so many memories and funny stories to share. The first call I made was to Brent's son, Sheldon. I wanted to offer my condolences and words of comfort, but much like his father, Sheldon turned the conversation around to try and comfort me. Almost felt like I was talking to Brent. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I plan on doing a remembrance show for Brent, and I would like to have Sheldon on, but now is not really the time for that. Now is the time to grieve his father. You know, Sheldon is a gamer, and I remember Brent calling me and asked me to join them online on Steam for War Thunder. It's online dogfighting World War II pilots against each other. And even with Brent and I teaming up on Sheldon, he mopped the floor with us. And I've been quietly planning my revenge for a rematch. Sheldon's grandchildren will know my name. It's what his father would have wanted. I used to give Brent a hard time about being a paranormal investigator and trying to communicate with spirits. And I always told him, you don't know who you're talking to. You don't know who you're communicating with or what doors you're opening. And my comments came from a good place in my heart. You know, I wasn't saying it for my benefit. I was saying it for his. And he knew that. And I knew that Burnt really thought he was helping out the dead as much as he would help the living. That's just kind of who he was. There was never any malice in our conversations. I remember he did an investigation in Coloma, Montana, in this ghost town. And Brent and his fellow investigators, they were using a ghost box to try and speak to the spirits. And he had posted this video online of what they had captured there. And there was weird audio. I mean, the ghost box was picking up weird. It was saying something. And you guys remember my Frank Hansen from my Minnesota Iceman show? When I'm telling the story about the Minnesota Iceman and how Frank would take the body around showing it off, and how Frank strangely sounds like a former president.

[Jacob]

Here's a clip.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Welcome the good people of Wisconsin. Come one Come all. Step right up and behold the Minnesota Iceman. Please form a line here and no pushing. Everyone will have a chance to see it. Yes, you in the back. What is your question?

[Jacob]

Where in God's name did you get this?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Funny story, Jack. A Japanese whaling ship found the body. They didn't want it, so I took it. Why?

[Jacob]

Why take it?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Because that's how I roll. Are there any other questions I can give non answers to?

[Host (possibly Wes)]

Well, when Brent posted his video, I told him, hey, I fixed a video from Coloma. I really dialed in the audio of the spirit voice that they had captured, and I was gonna go ahead and just send the video over. And he thanked me over and over. Before watching the video, I basically dubbed over the spirit voice with Frank Hanson. So we're now at the Kelowna ghost

[Jeremiah]

town proper, Coloma rather that we were

[Jacob]

at last night as well, that we streamed on.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

And we're trying the portal here. The word they captured here was scared. Who's here?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Your mother? Look here, Jack. Why do you look scared?

[Jacob]

I heard scared.

[Jeremiah]

I heard that, too.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

The word captured here was die.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Come on.

[Jacob]

Why'd you say that?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Because that's how I roll.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

And in this clip, they were hearing music.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

I really love your peaches. Want to shake your tree.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

Whoa.

[Jacob]

Should that even be possible? That was cool. Should not be music on these banks. Dropping back down.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

The last memory I'll share for today was when Brent was going to a conference here in Washington and he really wanted to interview Bob Gimlin. And I get it, Bob is a goat. But I knew how much it had meant to him. That's all I talked about for like two months. And Russ Accord is kind of the gatekeeper for Bob, and God bless him for doing it. Egos in the big four world will say Russ is using Bob and making money off of him. And I. I can tell you it's all nonsense. Not only are Bob and Russ very close friends, I have not seen Russ make any money off Bob, but I have seen him spend money on Bob, and I have seen him drop what he's doing to go over and help Bob. And I can go on and on. So whatever you hear online is nonsense. But Russ is the gatekeeper. So I called Brent on Saturday during the conference and I asked him if he spoke to Bob or had interviewed him yet. And he said he couldn't interview him, but he got to meet him and he kind of sounded bummed out. And I said, well, you know, you got to remember, Bob is an old man. If he Told you no. Don't take offense to it. He may not be feeling well. And Brent said, oh, no, no, Bob. Bob said yes, but Russ said no. And I was like, what? Russ said no? He's like, yeah, it's no big deal. I was like, put Russ on the phone. He's like, no, it's no big deal. I don't want to, you know, cause any problem. And I told Brent, I'm not asking you. I'm telling you to put Russ on the phone. So he puts Russ on the phone, and I'm like, what's the deal? Why aren't you allowing Brent to interview Bob? Well, Russ has no clue who Brent Thomas is. And if this is some sort of ambush interview or they're gonna make, you know, he's gonna make a fool out of Bob or. And with a few choice words for Russ, I turned that no into a yes. And I believe that was the last interview Bob has given and will probably give. Vern thanked me over and over, and I asked him not to tell this story. It was his interview, his work, and I wanted all the credit to go to him because that's what friends do. Rest in peace, my dear friend.

[Jacob]

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window

[Jeremiah]

of the deer blind. And it either heard me or smelt me.

[Jacob]

And he pulled his head out of

[Jeremiah]

the tent and stood straight up.

[Jacob]

And that.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

That shocked me.

[Jacob]

They don't make people that. That the way it moved,

[Jeremiah]

almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

[Jacob]

They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language.

[Jeremiah]

And they were chuntering away. Back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like, and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Nine, one, one.

[Jacob]

What are you reporting?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Jesus Christ. You better see them. Hello. Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a is about 6 foot 9. I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. O. Look here, Jack. This is Frank Hansen, and you are listening to Sasquatch Chronicles. Foreign.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. We are going to be chatting with Jeremiah and Jacob, and I had a lot of fun chatting with these guys on and off the air. Back In July of 2025, they decided to go out and kind of look for Bigfoot. The original plan was to go to Honabi, Oklahoma, but they were unable to make that trip, they found an area in Missouri to go out and look for the creature. And I always say, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. In part one, the guys talk about this encounter that they had in Missouri. And I'll be posting part two on Wednesday night and it'll be a public show when the guys finally make it to Honabi. I know they sent me a lot of videos I need to go through and I'll post those on part two. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. As I was telling the members last night, I'm moving to a different company and kind of moving away from the app. But with this new company they offer for members, you can listen to member shows on whatever podcast player you want. So if you're a Spotify person, all the member shows a load for you. If you're an itunes person, all the member shows will load for you. Whatever app you're using, you will be able to listen to the member shows. And I think I'm looking at like a two month time frame. I have a call with them this week, so. Good stuff, exciting stuff. I know some people have had troubles with the app and I want to do my best to try and fix that. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Jeremiah to the show. Jeremiah, thanks for coming on.

[Jeremiah]

Thanks for having me.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

And we also have the famous Nacho. Nacho, thanks for coming on.

[Jacob]

Thank you. It's. It's good to be here.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

I appreciate you being here, Jacob and I know the original plan was actually to go out to Honabi and we'll talk about that in part two. This main encounter, this was back in July of 2025 and it was out there in Missouri.

[Jeremiah]

Correct.

[Jacob]

So this is a. There's a little town about 20 minutes south of Joplin, Missouri called Neosho. So this particular incident happened. There's this little state designated area called Fort Crowder Conservation Area. It's kind of adjacent to Neosho. I think it's the community college.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah, it's a Crowder College in Crowder College.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Decent size swath of land. It's not like super huge. It's surrounded by like farmland and there's a smattering of houses out there. It's pretty. The way, you know, the way Missouri is, is that you can have tiny little towns and then outside that you have nothing until the next town. Then there's another town. Like you can, you can leave a town in. Well, it's kind of the same with the Midwest. Like you can leave a town, you can be in the middle of nowhere in like five minutes. The way this starts, it doesn't even really go back to the whole as. As we kind of told you beforehand, like we've been interested in like the Bigfoot subject pretty much our whole lives, right? The whole idea of like growing up, the whole idea of what's essentially like a monster, you know, as a kid, what do you. Bigfoot's pretty much a monster, right? He's like a real life monster. And I remember asking my dad, it's like, this is, you know, is that real? And he's like, maybe we don't know. And just that little sense, like, maybe we don't know. It's like, oh, so could be real. So I, I grew up watching shows. We both grew up watching shows like Finding Bigfoot, Monster Quest, Expedition Unknown, you know, like all the, all the classic cryptidy shows. And so then you get older, you know, you have your own car, you have your own money. So it's like, well, I mean, what better thing to do with our free time than, you know, when we can get together? Because I, I live Mississippi, he lives in Arkansas now. Was like, you know what, let's like find some classic hotspots, right? Some classic hotspots where these things are supposedly known to. To be. And let's see if we go there, you know, spend a little bit of time and just see what happens, right? So I ended up going to Missouri, hanging out with a friend of ours who doesn't really believe in Bigfoot per se, but he was, he was like one of the. In this instance, he was like the third man who was. He was there. He witnessed a lot of the stuff that we did, but he kind of was like, more like, eh, yeah, yeah, whatever. I don't think that he's really.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

He.

[Jacob]

I mean, he acknowledges now that he can't really explain a lot of things that happened, but he doesn't want to come out and openly say, yeah, it was. He kind of scoffs at the idea of actually admitting that it could have been something that he's not really comfortable with. It may exist, right? The way that happened was we were at this guy's house and we had been there all day playing games, watching TV. So it's about 10 o', clock, 10 or 10:30. So it's getting kind of late. Originally we were supposed to be in the woods this time, like, originally when we were planning on it. So it's neosho. Neosho's. I don't know if I'd say it's like an isolated place because Joplin's pretty close, but there's a lot of isolated places right outside Yosho. And I look at Jay and I'm just like, man, let's just go around the woods for a minute. Like, let's just. Let's just find a place where we can. Like, I wasn't even thinking about driving down the roads. Like, we can just like walk outside, be in the woods, right? I just want, like, I came out here originally playing on going in the woods because I love camping, you know, I love going in the woods. I love camping. And I look at Jay like, let's just. Let's just go in the woods a little bit. And Jay's like, oh, yeah, that'd be awesome. He looks at, Looks at. Torn is like, man, let's go in the woods and tornado.

[Jeremiah]

Migraine.

[Jacob]

Yeah, he had a migraine. So we kind of bullied him into going, which I guess that was mean of us. But I was like, come on, man, let's. Let's just go in the woods. It's gonna be fun. And Jay pulls up on his phone. He's like, like, places we can go. Fort Crowder is like five minutes down the road. And the way, like, if you. At least then, if you were to Google for Crowder and just like, get on images, it's presented almost as if it's like a camping area. Like, you have. You pull it up. There's like a picture of like a bench and like a trail in a lake. So we were thinking that we were going to. Up at like, a campground somewhere. They're like, okay, we're just going to pull up a campground, like, hit a trail, come back, we hop in the car, and like, we didn't really have. I wouldn't say we necessarily even had Bigfoot on the brain at this point. It was just more like, let's go in the woods, right?

[Jeremiah]

And we also just didn't bring anything with us. We brought.

[Jacob]

We brought nothing. We brought. We were not prepared. We didn't bring. We didn't bring hiking bands. We didn't bring hiking shoes. We didn't bring sticks. We didn't bring flashlights. We had our phones, like, the. Our flashlights on our phone.

[Jeremiah]

Mine was at 7%, which was not very Smart hindsight, but.

[Jacob]

And we also, on our way out, we called a friend of ours, like, come, come meet us out here, because he was supposed to come hang out with us that day. It was a different guy. This guy's name was Ulys, but he was. He was going to meet us out there. And that's important later. But anyway, so we drive out there, we. We get to this place, and immediately we realize, oh, this is a lot different than it looked on Google. Because we get out there, it's just like this. Like this little dirt gravel parking area and the woods, there's like a gate and it's just woods, like a sheet of dark trees. No lights, no. No nothing. Like there was a house across the road, but that was it. It was just dark. And there is. There was a trail. There was a gravel trail. We did find a trail. So we get on the trail and we have, you know, phone flashlights. That's really the only light we have. And so we get out and we just kind of start, you know, we're. We're talking, we're laughing, we're yelling. We're, you know, being dummies in the woods. Know, we're. We were tossing. We were tossing sticks around. We were tossing rocks around and not really doing whoops. I mean, we were jokingly, like, doing bigfoot stuff.

[Jeremiah]

Right. Whenever you look up on Google, it shows a picture of this really nice looking pond that's like, super pretty. We didn't look up how to get there. So we pulled into the first lot that we saw and decided this is how we get to the pond.

[Jacob]

You just. And we thought we just walk in, just walking to walk out. But so we end up getting on the trail. We're not really even looking at our mask. We just get on the trail and we start walking and we're like, we're going to walk to walk to the pond and just walk back. So we keep going down the trail and we're going down the trail for a while. No pond. And we're like, oh, we'll just. We'll just see where this trail goes, I guess. And so at a certain point, we were down the trail, a pretty decent clip. So our friend who really. The whole idea was kind of like to find the. Find the pond and then turn around back, right? So our friend, who doesn't really want to be there to begin with, who, you know, has a migraine, he's waiting for his ibuprofen to kick in so he can go home, he's like, I am Finding this lake as fast as I can so I can turn around and go home. And me and Jay were kind of. We're kind of lagging behind a little bit, you know, just tossing rocks around.

[Jeremiah]

Our friend was about 40 yards in front of us. We could see his flashlight swaying back and forth because he was doing that classic, you know, mom lock of swinging his hips really hard so you could see his flashlight swinging really hard. So we knew exactly where he was.

[Jacob]

Yeah, we could. We could see him down the trail. It was. It was a pretty. It was pretty. A straight shot. We had just rounded. We just rounded bin. I mean, later on, if you want me to, like, show you, like, on Google Maps, like, where we were, give you, like a play by play, because the trailer, you can actually follow it. But we had just rounded this corner and I tossed a rock, or I tossed a couple rocks. I tossed a rock, like, off in the blitz. And around this time, I also let out, like, a massive chainsaw fart. It's a boring detail. So I tossed her off. I tossed her rock. And Jay's laughing at me, and so I'm picking up another rock to toss, and I hear something land behind me. And Jay lets out this yelp and starts booking it down the trail to catch up with our friend, who's still visible down with the flashlight. So at this point, I don't really know what's going on. So I start sprinting to catch up with him because I thought, like, I don't know, is this dude trying to. Trying to race me? Is he, like, trying to. Is he trying to ditch me out here? Like, I didn't know what was going on, So I ran to catch up with him, and I pulled up alongside him, like, you know, let's like, bro, what's going on? And he's like, that wasn't me. I'm like, what are you talking about? It's like that rock, that. That wasn't me. Because I thought. Because I knew he was holding a rock, I figured he just, like, dropped in. That's what the noise was. I thought he, like, dropped and started running. He's like, no, that wasn't me. I didn't drop that. He said something, threw that at me. Like, that came out of the woods at me. And I didn't see. I didn't see that happen. I didn't see the rock come out of the woods because I just, you know, I kind of turned around and was preparing to throw my rock back, but I distinctly heard the rock that he said was thrown at him land. So I'm like, huh, kind of.

[Jeremiah]

Kind of going off that. I. So back to the massive chainsaw for it. I look, I'm laughing at Nachos because he just. He wrecked it. So I look up at him. He's probably three, four feet in front of me, and he's kind of to my left as I'm reaching down to grab another rock. And, you know, obviously he's grabbing another rock as well. About 10, 12ft behind me, I heard a rock hit a tree and then fall into the ground, which Nacho said. I yelped, which hindsight, I. I did. But in my perspective, I screamed at the top of my lungs and started sprinting because my first reaction was, oh, no, I gotta get out here. So I just sprinted into the conservation. Didn't sprint out like any normal sane person would be. I'd be like, oh, let's get back to the car and leave. I sprinted further in and then caught up with our friend and Nacho cop with me and kind of recounted what happened. And yeah, I was kind of. We could have very well made the decision to turn around and leave, but we decided, you know what? No, we're. We're not at the little lake that we saw on Google yet. We're. We're going to keep going until we find this thing. So we. We keep walking and we probably get maybe another quarter mile in. And as we're walking that extra quarter mile, there's. I hear something like, kind of walking alongside us at this point, it's all three of us kind of walking together. I hear something kind of off in the woods next to us walking alongside this. And I couldn't really tell what it was, you know, couldn't distinctly hear 2ft or 4ft or, you know, any sort of, like, how it was walking. I just heard leaves crunching kind of off in the distance and kind of just blew it off. I was like, ah, it's, you know, it's. It's Missouri in the woods. Probably like a deer or like a raccoon or something, or armadillos. We got tons of those to kind of set up the area. It's. I'm on the left side of the trail, not just to the right of me, and then Torren's in the middle of us, but right behind us. We get to this bush and we stop and we're talking for a second and we turn because I thought I heard something like breathing behind the bush. So we sat there kind of for a minute and kind of heard Something kind of walking around in that bush and we're sitting there listening to it and I kind of low key, almost killed our friend for this. But he's standing behind us, lets out this ear piercing scream. Just screaming at whatever's behind the bush. Made me jump out of my sky. Almost died on the spot. But whatever was behind the bush kind of walked off into the woods.

[Jacob]

So it kind of just kind of slinked away. It was weird. I mean it didn't. It was like a very subtle kind of movement. Like you really had to listen just kind of.

[Jeremiah]

It wasn't, wasn't very loud either.

[Jacob]

You know, it wasn't very loud. It was pretty quiet.

[Jeremiah]

So after we heard the thing on the side of the bush, we decided to keep walking in and we kind of got to the edge of this clearing. Mind you, this entire time we're still being dudes in our 20s, throwing stuff into the woods, throwing rocks and stuff. And I was grabbing just anything I saw on the ground, just kind of tossing it. And we got to the edge of this clearing and I see this tree just kind of in like I have a Google Pixel 7 and at the time before the flashlight update came out, there's this horrible. Flashlights couldn't see anything with it. I saw this like little tree that was kind of looked like it was bent through a singular flower up on this tree and just kind of just tossing stuff side to side. And then we, you know, keep walking in. As we get further into this clearing, it. I. I'm not sure if not to hurt, but I heard something kind of cross the trail behind us. Not super quick or super slow or anything.

[Jacob]

I did not notice that.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah, heard something cross the trail behind us. Kind of pretty close to where that country was. And looking back on it, I think it was the next day, this game trail. So there's a little cleared out area, small little game trail, not massive. But we keep walking and we're probably a quarter through this clearing and Nacho and I both hear this like, it's almost like a low grumble growl. It might do this point. Our friend's back in front of us again because he did not want to be there. He wanted to find the little lake. So Nacho and I are walking side by side and we hear this like kind of low grumble growl. And it's not, it's not loud. It's not like how some people describe as like a semi going by. It's. It's real discreet.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

We.

[Jacob]

It was, it was like a stomach. It Was like, you're sitting next to someone whose stomach's growling.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah. It was like someone hasn't eaten and a day and a half and they're just needing food is just a low grumble, like a growl, kind of like gurgle almost.

[Jacob]

And I thought it was him. I thought it was his stomach. It's like, that was you, right? I was like, oh, it wasn't me. So. Okay, whatever. So we just. We kept going. I think it's important to mention, too, that our friend Torin, he did not witness the rock incident. He was. Because he was a good ways. He was a good ways down the clip, so he thought we were just freaking out.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah, he was about 40 yards in front of us, like, not close enough to hear a rocker really even us say anything unless we were screaming at him.

[Jacob]

And. And, you know, my whole. My thinking during this time was, okay, maybe if, you know, something threw a rock at us, that's either, you know, a tweaker out here in the woods that we snuggled across or it's. It's one of them, you know, something with hands did it. So I'm like, you know, whatever. Whatever it is, this is literally what we were hoping for. All. All on that. This is what we. This is what we were going to go to, hon, before, Right? This is the kind of stuff we want to happen. So, like, well, let's keep going, see if it happens again. And we're going to try and provoke it. We're going to keep tossing stuff that direction, see what. See what happens. So we were.

[Jeremiah]

Sorry.

[Jacob]

Oh, no, sorry. Go ahead.

[Jeremiah]

Shortly after, like, that grumble, growl kind of sound, we in that clearing, maybe 45, 50 yards into the clearing, we hear this almost sounds like something punching or like stomping the ground real hard. Because, I mean, you could. You could tell something was hitting something dense. And it's. I believe it was July 5th. So at the time, we were like, oh, it's. It's just fireworks or something. And, you know, with fireworks, it's. I mean, I'm assuming you know what the Doppler effect is. You know, the further away you get from something that's quiet, the closer you get. It's a lot louder. This entire time. It's staying even with us. It's not getting quieter, it's not getting louder. And I was kind of just in the back of my head counting as every three seconds, just this thump.

[Jacob]

Like, it was rhythmic.

[Jeremiah]

It was every three seconds, thump, thump. And we kind of played off in the moment like, oh, it's yeah, it's some dude off in the distance, you, know, having fun with fireworks, Just goofing around, whatever.

[Jacob]

Because we were, you know, we were still. We try and be. We were trying to be, like, objective and skeptical. Right, too. Because you don't want to go full on, like, oh, everything's a bigfoot that year.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Right.

[Jacob]

We were trying to have, like, you know, okay, we are kind of in the middle of nowhere, but that doesn't mean there aren't people in the general vicinity. Right. So we were walking along this trail. I don't remember if it was after this or before this, when we really started to, like, notice the light trim. I was saying, like, kind of like the booming noise. The booming noise was so going in, like, walking in the clearing is on your right. And the booming noise was kind of coming from that direction. It was kind of coming in the time it would have been on our right.

[Jeremiah]

And to add on to that, Whatever I heard cross the path behind us Went to the right of us, like, from the left to the right.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

Jeremiah, you're talking about that rhythmic thumping noise. Are you describing wood knocks?

[Jeremiah]

Wasn't even really wood knocks.

[Jacob]

It's almost like it didn't sound like something hitting wood. It was like, kind of just like,

[Jeremiah]

you know how great apes will sometimes, like, both hands smack the ground to, like, kind of assert dominance. It was almost like something was like, just smacking the ground as hard as it could.

[Jacob]

Yeah. It didn't. It sounded like an impact. It didn't sound like. It wasn't like rock on rock. It wasn't like wood on wood. It was just kind of just like, this is why we originally were like, oh, that's just fireworks. It sounded. The closest way I could say Was like, just like a boom. It was just like a booming noise.

[Jeremiah]

But at the.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Jeremiah]

There wasn't like, a cracker clack of, like, wood on wood. You'll get that wooden crack. Or like, a rock. You get the clacking. There's just dents, if that makes sense. Just a dense sound.

[Jacob]

So going down this. Going down this clearing, we're coming at the end of the clearing where it goes back into, like, more woods on both sides of the trail. And there was a tree down in the trail, A big tree, Like a significantly sized tree. And so when I see this tree, like, in light of the fact we just had rocks, because, you know, I've listened to a ton of different bigfoot stories over the time, and I've heard plenty of stories Where a person was unwelcome in an area. And one of the signals that it was time to leave was like, an obstruction in their path. So I see this tree and my flashlight kind of plays on. The first thing I noticed about this tree is that this tree wasn't dead. Like, it wasn't like a. An old dead tree. This tree had plenty of green foliage on it. So I see this obviously healthy but still downed tree in the middle of the trail. Like, it was. It wasn't like, laying off to the side. It wasn't laying. It was, like, perpendicularly laying across the trail. So I see this and I'm like. Because immediately. Because I'm already. I'm a little weird out by the rock thing. Like, I'm trying to play. Like, okay, that could have been a person. Maybe. Maybe it wasn't. Could have been. You know, I'm still trying to be objective. I see the tree and I'm like. My mind immediately goes to. Oh, like, okay, is this. Is this a sign? So every. And I don't know, I don't think I mentioned this before, but, like, going into those woods. Because I've been in the woods by myself at night a lot. I've. I've been camping a lot. I've been. I've been in the dark. So I'm not. I'm not scared of the dark. I'm not scared of the woods at night. But they're going into these woods. Going into those woods. There was, like, a general sense of unease, at least for me personally. It was like, this is kind of. The vibe was a little off. But when I saw. So when I saw this tree, like, I remember, like, the hair standing up on my. On my neck, because I was like, that's. That's not bad. That's not normal. It was like, the vibe, like. Because the vibe was already a little bit. It was like. It was like, oh, like, okay. So I did something I'm not sure I should have done. I kind of pushed that back down. I was like, we definitely need to go. Like, when I saw that, I was like, we definitely gotta go. But I was like, I gotta take a look at this tree just for myself. I gotta, like, go up. I gotta see. Like, is this something that could have happened by, like, wind? Because I was like. I was also like, we didn't hear this tree fall over going in. So I'm like, I gotta see. But interestingly enough, there was. This is also. This is a trail that during the day, people do used because there was horse tracks, there was horse Dung up and down the trail, like tons of horse crap going in. So I was like, okay, that horse crab was fresh. So people have been here on horseback within like the last day. And now there's a tree laying across the track. So obviously that tree cannot have been there that long. And because people have been coming in and out, you know, going around this tree. So we get up to the tree and we're looking at the tree and Torrin has kind of caught up at this. Well, we caught up with him. And so we're looking at it. I'm like shining my light on it. And Torren's like, guys, be quiet. So we all shut up. And he was like, did you guys hear that? I didn't hear anything, I don't think. Jay, did you hear anything?

[Jeremiah]

I mean, I. I heard something, but I kind of in the moment, just played off as like wind in the trees. It's just forced out, you know.

[Jacob]

So Torin, Torin is. So I'm about 6, 2, torrent is about 5, 11, and torin is standing there next to me. And Torren's looking up, like his eye, his line of sight is like looking at like a.

[Jeremiah]

It was a. Like 8 or 9ft off the ground.

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Like 50 degree angle. So he's looking up and I'm like, what are you, what are you hearing? He's like, there's something breathing over there. Like he distinctly said. Like he's looking up at the tree line and he says, there's something over there breathing. So he says that. And at this point, you know, everything's telling me that we gotta go, we need to, we need to move. So we turn around and we start walking back out. We're going at a pretty good clip. So the, the booming from earlier, this is when it really kind of started to get intense. Like it was. It was kind of intensified because it was like happening a little bit, I think, before we got to the tree. But it wasn't like, it wasn't like a stationary location because as we're walking out, the booming is like moving alongside us. It's parallel. It's parallel to us.

[Jeremiah]

It was a good 45, 50 yards, if that, into the woods. Just moving alongside us and kind of like how not to say it intensified almost.

[Jacob]

It was like the length of time between them was shortening. So around this time. So remember that friend I told you that we called to meet us out there. So around that time, he calls me on my phone. I still had service out here, which is probably a good thing.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

I.

[Jacob]

So he calls me on my phone, and I'm talking to him, and he's like, you guys still out there? I'm coming out there right now. He had been in. He had been in Oklahoma, like, watching a movie or something. So he was a good 45 to an hour late from when he was supposed to be there. But he. He was talking to us. And as I'm talking to him, like, I'm like, yeah, we're leaving right now. We got a little weird out. I'll have to talk to you about later. As I am talking to him, I hear some kind of commotion, like, on the side of the trail right next to Jay. And Jay looks at me and almost sprints, but, like, he, like, pulls himself back in at the last second. He just. He looks at me. He's like, we have to get out of here now. And also around this time, Torin, who's up ahead of us, he starts sprinting.

[Jeremiah]

The man who had a migraine didn't want to be there. Just goes into a dead sprint whenever to kind of adding on to Nacho's, you know, him on the phone and me saying that Nacho's on the phone with our friend Ulysses, talking. And I'm kind of, you know, we're not playing music. We're just kind of walking. You know, it's. It's quiet, really very quiet. And we get to the end of this clearing, you know, having walked back through it, this booming sound still going on. And I mean, on Google maps, you can see the exact tree, because I'm on the left side of the trail, you know, facing the west side of this. I'm like, the west side trail notches on the east side trail, torrens of ways in front of us, probably a foot from my head, a rock smacks a tree next. I mean, I could. I didn't see it, mainly because it was pitch black and my phone had died at that point. But, I mean, I could feel it was almost like, you know, something claps their hands right next to your ear. You can. You can hear it. You know, that rings a little bit. It hit the tree next to my head, and it hit the ground. And I. You know, not just saying that. I got down the sprinting position. I very well got down the sprinting position, you know, ready to just run at the. You know, fly to speed to get out of there, because I was. I wasn't even scared. You know, that sense of dread where it feels. You almost feel like you're in danger. It's like Something here is bad, and I need to leave. If I don't leave, I'm gonna get hurt. It was that sense of dread where it was like every part of my body was, like, about to force myself to run. But then my mind caught up and I was like, you know, if. If I run, you know, if you see a bear or mountain lion or any sort of predator out in the wild, you. You don't sprint. Cause that's gonna make them chase you, and you know they're not gonna stop chasing you if you start running. So kind of my just normal, basic logic caught up, and it was like, hey, you. You don't run. If you run, you're. You know, whatever's out there is gonna. It's gonna catch you and eat you. So I kind of got down in that position and caught myself. And I didn't. I didn't. I didn't stop walking once. I just kind of slightly twisted my head. I was like, nacho, we need to leave now.

[Jacob]

Which we were already doing. We were already on point out, but.

[Jeremiah]

And I kind of started sprint, or not sprinting, but speed walking.

[Jacob]

Speed walking, yeah.

[Jeremiah]

You know, kind of get out of there a little bit. Little bit urgency in my step. We're probably from the clearing to where we had the car. About halfway. I kept hearing something like, kind of pacing the trail behind us. It almost. Because, you know, the difference between, like, someone walking on, like, kind of dirt and leaves and then swapping the gravel. You can almost hear, like, the gravel kind of push out from underneath and crunch a little bit. I kept hearing something walk behind us, like, just crossing the trail. So my thought was, huh, this is a little weird. So I kind of just either every now and then twist my head around, you know, look behind me, see if there's anything behind me. Didn't see anything. So in my head, just, yeah, keep going. We're leaving. You know, we're. It's not like we're going to be staying. We're not. We're going to be like, oh, what's that? Turn around and go. Try and find it. We're leaving, and we're not going to stay. It's weird getting that feeling of, like, knowing something, whether it's a person, an animal, or a sasquatch, or some sort of creature is there and it does not want you there. And kind of being. Getting that feeling of like you're being ushered out of this area, something doesn't want you there. There's something here that knows you're there. You don't know what's there. And just getting that feeling, you know, we got. As we got closer to the car, there's this little secondary clearing. Not even really clearing. It's just a little patch of grass and it's right next to the little dirt gravel lot. So as we get there, the ground pound stops whatever is, you know, walking behind us, went silent, you know, walked off, went silent. And that's when I noticed, at least on. Of course, I think Jacob or nacho noticed, but the bugs and like kind of wildlife started acting up a little bit. And I had no. The entire time I was there, it was very still.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it was very still. Wide out there.

[Jeremiah]

Whenever we were walking in there, all that stuff was happening. You couldn't hear crickets. You know, normally you can hear crickets at night, you know, calling to each other. You couldn't hear crickets. But the second we got closer to the car, you could hear crickets. And, you know, we got in the car. Our friend Ulysses finally pulled up. Whenever he got to the lot, started doing donuts and the dirt and everything.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

He was.

[Jacob]

Yeah, he was doing donuts when we walked up.

[Jeremiah]

Kind of it relieved a little bit of the stress we had. So that was a nice little lift. But that was, you know, that first night that we went to crowd. And the next night or next, not even next night, next morning, Nacho and I, we were kind of both had the thought of, like, let's go, you know, check out that tree, you know, see what was there. You know, check that out. See if we see anything over there in the daylight. Because we're definitely not going to go back at night, you know, in the dark, because that was horrible. So I'm back in the morning, check out the tree. And I know Nacho got probably more descriptive with the tree. I just remember seeing these two trees kind of.

[Jacob]

I definitely checked out the tree. Pretty, pretty close.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah, I was. If you want to take that.

[Jacob]

Well, well, another thing. I don't remember if this was on our way out or this was on our way in.

[Jeremiah]

But you remember how.

[Jacob]

So Jay had left this wildflower in the crook of a tree, like just off the trail going in. I didn't even know about this at the time. He told me about it later when he pointed out to me, but he left that wildflower there, right? And so we passed by that tree and he's like looking for like the wildflower, cuz he's like, yeah, I left something over here last night. And so we. We walk up and there is an Identical wildflower sitting next to it in the crook in the tree next to it.

[Jeremiah]

There's a second flower sitting there. That's. That's really weird. You know, we're. We're here. There's no one else here, and, like, there's a second flower sitting on top of the flower I put there.

[Jacob]

So, yeah, so we saw that and we were like, huh, that's. That's weird. I mean, nothing. Nothing really else to say about that like that either. I mean, someone with hands put that there, and it wasn't us. So within. Within the last, I don't know, nine, eight hours that had gone by, someone, either someone or something had been there, seen that, and left that there. So, I mean, you know, make of that. Make of that what you will. But we. We kept on going down to the tree, and on closer inspection, what we realized was that it wasn't a singular tree. There was an older tree, like a. More like a rotten tree. You could see where they had been broken. This wasn't like. So another thing, too. This wasn't. These weren't trees that had been, you know, overturned by weather. There wasn't a. An uproot at the base of the tree. Like, you know, if a tree. Typically, if a tree falls over, you can follow it right down to, like, the roots. They'll be like a hole in the ground. And the trees, the roots will be up in the air and they'll be completely flat. But in both of these trees, there was an older one that had been probably dead for a little bit. It was a dead tree. And then there was a fresh tree on top of it. And they were laying in kind of like a crisscross X, like, one overlapped on the other. And they were both. They had. They hadn't been uprooted and, like, laid over. They were both broken. Like, they had, like. They, like something had, like, kind of snapped them somehow. And they were about maybe five, six or five feet apart. They were both broken at, like, the same height, like, parallel to each other. And one was laying one way and the other was laying another way. So I tried to, like, play. I kind of tried to forensic, like, csi, and I was like, well, is there any possible way, like, one could have, like, taken the other one down with it when it fell? But, like, they weren't really. I don't really see that happening, because they wouldn't have been if they had fallen in the direction they were laying. Neither one of them. The direction they were laying. If they had fallen that way, neither one of them would have fallen into the path of the other tree. They would have been side by. There wouldn't have been. There wouldn't have been any connection there. So it was weird because it was like, if this was weather, first of all, There had been no storm. The weather had been super clear that weekend. And so it's like, it'd be really crazy For a healthy tree to somehow get snapped like that with no wind. No, no nothing. Not at. Not at. Like, it's based. Like it had been a rude and fallen over. But like, this was. And I have pictures. We took pictures. We took pictures of most of this stuff. And in the picture, you can clearly see. And I. I don't know if Jay sent any of that to you, But

[Jeremiah]

I have the tree pictures.

[Jacob]

I think I have the tree pictures. Like, I can. I can show this to you. I can send this over to you later. But there is definitely like a crack, like a definite like, snap in the tree. So we're looking at this and we're like, huh, that's. That's really, like, I don't really have. It wasn't like someone. No tools. Like, nobody with tools did this. This wasn't. This is a very crude, like, snap. And so we're looking at this like, well, that's kind of weird. Like, don't really have a conventional explanation. Like, we're leaning more and more like, oh, this could have endless. Like, we know we were going to go bigfoot hunting, and then that got canceled. And then we went to someplace not really expect anything to happen. And like, we had our first, like, maybe, you know, like, maybe something didn't lost there. Maybe something got mad and something wanted us to leave. So we were kind of stoked because, you know, you get that. You get that first little taste of like, oh, maybe something actually, something actually came out to play last night. So we were thinking, here's what we're going to do. We're too scared to actually walk back in these woods, Just the two of us, because we asked our friend who was with us. We asked like, you want to come back out here? And he was like, absolutely not.

[Jeremiah]

And.

[Jacob]

But I should also mention, like, he's also like, he's kind of played it off. Like, I don't. Nothing really happened. It's just, you guys. It was. It was nothing. You guys are freaking out. But I asked him, like, I asked him like, months later, like, why did you start sprinting down that trail? Because first off, he tried to play like, the breathing. I also asked him about like the breathing her, like, what did you hear? And he's like, ah, it was just like a truck off in the distance, like driving by on the highway or something. Only there's not really a truck in any distance. It's the woods. You wouldn't have heard anything from where we were.

[Jeremiah]

Yeah, we were in the middle of this area. There's no roads.

[Jacob]

But I asked him because I kept on, I kept on bothering him about it and asking him like, so why didn't you start running then? If there was, if there was nothing, why you start running? And he finally admitted to me, it's like I started running because I felt like something was watching me and I felt like I needed to leave. And he, this, he hadn't seen the, you know, the rock. Like he. Both times that we had a rock thrown at us, he wasn't next to us. He was further down the trailer. So I don't know. For him to have felt that vibe with, I guess maybe less, a little less circumstantial evidence. I mean, he saw the tree here at the breathing, but he kind of, you know, played it off at the time. But he still picked, he still picked up on that vibe. So I think that kind of, that kind of lends a little credibility to maybe something genuinely was going on. Me and Jay were like, well, we're going to come back here tomorrow. We're not going to go off in the woods this time. We're going to go adjacent to the woods because we don't want to. We want to have a quick getaway. We're not going to leave the car. We're just going to go out here, we're going to pull over and we're just going to make a couple noises and see if anything happens. Right. So that's what we did. So around 11 o' clock the following night. So I think this would have been like, what, July 6th?

[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

Probably.

[Jacob]

It was a Saturday. I think the 4th was on Thursday,

[Jeremiah]

July 6th, at 10:30.

[Jacob]

Okay. The time. Yeah, the timestamps on the video, because we did. And this time we were like, we didn't record anything the first time. So we are going to, we're going to do our due diligence. We're gonna go finding Bigfoot the crap out of this. Right? We're gonna, we'll have our phones out. We're gonna, whatever happens, we're going to pick it up if anything happens. So we pull up, we pull up in my little, my tiny, little super vulnerable Kia soul. We pull up in the. This Little gravel patch. There's lots of little patches where you can pull over and hop off into the woods. So we were in a different position in Crowder. We were, we were kind of like parallel to where we had been the first night, but we were parallel but like on the opposite side.

[Jeremiah]

We were to the southwest corner of

[Jacob]

Crowder, to the southwest. I think the road that goes through there. Trying to remember the name. Is it White Road?

[Jeremiah]

Out Road?

[Jacob]

Okay. So we were, we were on that road. So I get out of the car, I'm like, I'm just going to whoop a couple times and you know, whatever. Doing the, do the finding Bigfoot thing, right? So I whoop a couple times and like the second I. I stopped whooping, I start recording. I didn't want my whoop to be on camera because I was self conscious about it, but I started recording like the second after that. And about a minute went by because we were sitting out there with our, with the windows down for a minute. And kind of like the previous night, there was one single very distinct, very loud impact, like a thud. We were both recording it. So that boom happens. And I should also mention again, so going back out there, like pretty much anytime we've been out there, the vibe is always a little off. Like there's always that kind of sense of an ease. Like, I don't know if I should really be out here right now. And it was like that when we pulled up. So we were never. We were already kind of uncomfortable. But so that happens. And I just kind of sit there in awe because in my mind I'm like, oh my God. I go out here, I do big footy thing. Big footy thing happens immediately after that, back in response to what I just did. So I'm thinking, like, in my mind, I'm thinking like, holy crap, there's one like right over there. If, you know, like I'm here, I am in this, in this little car. There's like maybe a 900 pound ape guy within maybe 100 yards of me. And that's when it's kind of like, oh my God, like this thing. If this thing walks up to the car, like, what am I going to do?

[Jeremiah]

And it's a little side note, whenever he got there, Nacho had turned this K soul off, which feels like a shoebox. Doesn't. Doesn't feel like a safe car. Um, turned the keys off, turn the lights off, left the windows down, left the windows, left the doors unlocked, and took the keys out of the ignition and put them Somewhere.

[Jacob]

So I, I, Well, I stood up because when I. I got out of the car to do the whoop, and I got back in and I left my keys sitting on the seat. So I sat on my keys. So this is going on. So I hear the. The boom, and it's like, it's not what, like, like it was like the previous night. It was not. At least it didn't sound like to me, it was not wood on wood or stick on stick or rock on rock. It was like something hitting the ground very hard. It was like, just like this. It sounded almost like the impact of, like, a crash or something. Like it was. And it resonated. Like it wasn't. There wasn't. There was an echo to it. Like, it resonated from beginning to end. This whole thing happened maybe within like, six minutes or so. So I. I'm sitting there, I'm sitting on my keys. I don't realize it. So I'm starting to look around like, oh, my God, where are my keys? Like, we're. We're seeing ducks out here. And I'm just imagining, like, okay, I did this, and now it knows I'm here, so I just gave my position away. So if this thing comes and it wants to check me out, you kind of realize at that moment, like, I thought I was ready for, like, some kind of, like, legit encounter, whatever. Then you realize, oh, you're not ready for this. You know, it's kind of like, wow, this thing. This thing is the way the vibe was at this moment. It kind of feels. No, I should clarify. We never, in. In either of these situations we're going to talk about, we never saw, like. We didn't see one walk out. We didn't lay eye. We didn't physically lay eyes on one, but it was like you could feel the presence of something. It was like you were in the presence of something trying to, you know, find a way to say it without sounding cheesy. It was like you were in the presence of something. Like, you're. You're lower on the food chain. This thing, whatever it is, is not only intelligent, but it's like, on a level that you aren't. Like, it's on a higher level than you, and it's very. It was very intimidating. It was a level. It was, like, frightening on a level that if you've never been in that situation, it's kind of hard to really. And like I said, we didn't. We didn't see it, right? We didn't see anything. It was Just this, you know, call response. And it was close. Like this thud. It was not far away. It was probably within 30 yards. And it was loud. And it sounded like it was definitely there to, like, let us know. Like, I know you're here. And so I'm thinking, like, there's no way. Like, we just pulled up in a spot and there's like a. One, like, just right here. Like, I was like, we're getting crazy lucky with just the two times we've been out here. No prior bigfoot hunting before this. Like, we just. We just go out here and, like, there's one right here. Both. The time is like, is this really. This is really happening? But it was like, we. We heard it and it's on the. It's on the recording. So I'm freaking out because I'm like, if this thing walks up, like, I'm gonna die if this thing walks up. I don't. I don't want to see it at this point. So this is all going through my mind, and I'm like, we gotta find the keys. We gotta. We gotta get out of here. But there was something like. I found my keys and I started the car, but there was still something that kind of. I don't know, kind of compelled us to stay for, like, a couple minutes longer because we were. We were still filming at this point. Like, or at least Jay was. Like, Jay was filming the. The area around just in case something like that did happen or like, something else happened. We stuck around, I guess, just long enough before it was completely uncomfortable. And Jay think. Jay thinks he was hearing something moving parallel to us, like, on the. On the other side. Because I. I'm going to be honest, I didn't. I can't speak for him on that because I was so focused on, like, what had just happened next to me. He's on the other side of the car. He's hearing things that I don't remember hearing. If I did. I don't remember. All I know for sure is I def. I definitely heard what I heard on the other side because really, neither one of us wanted to get out of the car. Like, when we. We pulled up when we had the windows down, and it just felt raw. It just felt wrong. So there was this. There was this feeling like, I don't really want to get more than 10ft for my car. I wanna. That was. The whole point of driving up, is that we would have a car that we could just hop in and go if something happened.

[Jeremiah]

The car is facing south. We heard the Nacho sound kind of off to the east of the car, like you said, maybe 100 yards east. And on my side of the car, it's this little gravel lot and then a wall of trees and then the back road, and then it just goes into woods from there on. So I kept. I mean, in that five minute long video, you can, you can hear me saying, there's.

[Jacob]

There.

[Jeremiah]

There's something walking on my side of the car. I keep hearing something walking over here. And at this point, we did bring flashlights this time. We were semi smart in this one. We, you know, brought flashlights and I'm shining over there. I keep hearing something. And you know, at that point we kind of. We get uncomfortable enough to like, okay, you know, there's. There's obviously something weird kind of going on here. So we decided, okay, you know, we're going to do a little turn, you know, get out of here and to turn together. We're facing south. We're on the southeast side of this lot. We had to, like, almost do a 2, 3 point turn to gather because we were against, you know, the back corner of this. And then we ended up having to face the side that, you know, I was sitting on. So, like the west side, in the entire time, I was like, you know, if I. If we turn this car at this point, the headlights are on and I see something standing there where I heard something. Like, I heard sounds over there. I'm. I'm gonna have a heart attack. You know, I'm gonna be like, oh, my God. I. This is. This is happening. This is real. So thankfully, you know, whenever we turned, didn't see anything. So we, we leave and we at this point call, you know, our friend Torn, who has been with us the first night, and he's. He's at his house with his wife and we were staying with them. We're like, hey, yeah, you know, we have. We have some weird stuff going on over here. You guys should like, you know, come out, you know, check it out. And Nacho's on the phone with him. And while Nacho's on phone with them, trying to convince him to come out with us, to come back to this exact same spot, I have my phone up to my ear and listen to the. A five minute long video. And it's literally right in the beginning of the five minute long video where I clip that 24 seconds, you can hear the. That, like, first initial, like, boom kind of sound. But I turned to him and I was like, dude, I'm freaking out. I'm like, dude, we got this on video. We heard.

[Jacob]

I had super stoked out on video.

[Jeremiah]

After that, we go pick up, you know, Torrin and his wife and we go back to the same spot, do some sounds, don't hear anything. But we're sitting in this car. I see off, you know, we're facing the same direction, same orientation. I'm in the same seat. I'm looking to the west side again, and I keep shining my flashlight over there and I see this, what in the moment looked like maybe a two or three foot tall bush and something kind of almost like golden brown ducking behind this bush. And it looked like the same color as a deer. So I was like. And every time I put my flashlight on top of this bush, whatever was behind the bush would duck down. So I was like, oh, it's probably just like a deer or something, you know, checking us out. It's like, you know, most of the time when you put a light on deer and it doesn't want to be saying it's probably going to duck down or like, try and hide a little bit or like, you know, because that deer in the headlights kind of thing. So I was like, oh, it's a deer. You know, it's. It's checking us out because we're out here being stupid people in our 20s making an unnecessary amount of sound for no reason. So it's a deer checking us out. And I did that for probably 15, 20 seconds. It kept ducking down. So I was like, all right, whatever. So I shine my light around, you know, other areas of the, the woods, and then I go back to it probably 30 seconds later and it's not there. So I'm like, okay, this. Yeah, it walked off. So we, you know, we finished up there, we didn't see anything. Nothing else happened. We drive around to other areas, you know, Fort Crowder. Nothing else happens. We're just kind of, we're like, we, you know, at this point, we're like, we gotta have something happen. You know, we just dragged our friend and his wife out here at almost 11 o', clock, 11:30 at night to come out to the woods. Because we were like, guys, something happened. And we didn't want to drag him out there for nothing. So nothing else happens. We go back to the, to the house and, you know, settle down for the night. At that point, Nacho and I are talking about everything, everything that happened, just kind of recapping. We kind of like how we did that morning of the second day. We go back a third day in the morning to check out the lot because you're like, we want to see how kind of what the woods look like in the daylight. So we parked in the exact same spot. You know, we kind of walk around a little bit and I walk over to this bush that I saw something kind of ducking down behind, and I'm six foot three. I walk up to this tree and I'm looking at or not even a tree, it's a bush. It's on my side, a few inches taller than me. What I thought was like a two or three foot tall bushes, same height as me on, you know, the parking lot side of this bush. So I'm like, wow, this is. This is decently sized. What I saw is ducking down behind this. So I'm like, I kind of want to see size comparison of like, you know, Nacho and I were about the same height. Six, two, six, three. So like, Nacho, you stand behind this bush. I'll go sit in this hole. Because we parked Kia Soul because we parked in the exact same spot. And he's like, dude, there's a, there's a ditch on the other side of this bush. It's about like, it's a foot and a half deep on the other side of this bush. So that would make whatever was behind this bush at least seven and a half feet tall. But what I saw was something above the bush ducking down, and I didn't distinctly see like head or shoulders or body. I saw just a golden brown color duck down behind it and then took my line off at 30 seconds later, went back and nothing's there. It's just black behind this bush. So, you know, I was like, huh, that's not good. I don't like that. I don't like that. I saw something there that was that big. You know, something that big shouldn't be in Neosha, Missouri, which is not a crazy area.

[Jacob]

So definitely not an area that really has any as far as. I mean, I've done research. As far as I can tell, there's not really been any other light reports in that particular area in Missouri.

[Jeremiah]

And I do want to add. So this, you know, parking lot and then also the original trail that we walked down. Both times during the day, we tried to walk out into the woods and couldn't get very far because of how dense the woods were. Whatever we heard walking in, like around us. And was one familiar with the area, but then also too familiar enough with with the area enough to walk in there. Pitch black, no flashlight, and not make a lot of sound.

[Host (possibly Wes)]

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[Jeremiah]

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[Jeremiah]

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[Frank Hansen (voice actor or character)]

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[Jeremiah]

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[Jeremiah]

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