SC EP:1278 Bermuda Triangle Survivor

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Sasquatch Chronicles

Episode: SC EP:1278 Bermuda Triangle Survivor
Date: August 2, 2026
Guest: Bruce Gernon, pilot and author
Host: Wes (Sasquatch Chronicles)
Main Theme:
An extraordinary firsthand account of a “time storm” encounter in the Bermuda Triangle, as Bruce Gernon recounts his 1970 experience where he believes he and his passengers traversed space and time in a private plane, possibly via an unknown natural phenomenon known as “electronic fog.” The episode explores the science, mystery, and lasting impacts of this experience, tying in broader themes of anomalous phenomena like UFOs and “portals.”

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1. Overview

This episode features Bruce Gernon, pilot and author, sharing his widely documented experience of inexplicable travel through the Bermuda Triangle in 1970. Gernon's flight encountered an unusual tunnel-shaped cloud, navigational instrument failures, feelings of weightlessness, and seemingly impossible time and space shifts. The discussion expands into theories around “electronic fog,” similar disappearances, time storms, possible links to UFOs, and broader implications for our understanding of time-space anomalies.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

Bruce’s 1970 Flight: The Core Narrative

• Typical Flight Becomes Extraordinary (03:40—11:31)

  • Bruce, his father, and a business partner took off from Andros Island, Bahamas, heading to Miami—a routine 90-minute flight.
  • Almost immediately, Bruce noticed an odd, unusually low lenticular cloud, “hovering 500ft above the Great Bahama Bank…kind of like a lens of a camera.” (16:27—16:50)
  • Ascent forced Bruce to pass through multiple evolving clouds—one of which grew “faster than we could climb” and changed form rapidly.
  • With primitive navigation and weather technology (“dead reckoning,” as Bruce called it), they could not get a weather report before departure.

• Entering the “Time Storm” (19:10—32:57)

  • Upon reaching 11,500ft, believing they were clear, Bruce soon found himself surrounded once more by the same unusual clouds—now forming a “donut-shaped squall” with a tunnel in the center.
  • Deciding to fly into the mile-wide tunnel opening, the clouds contracted rapidly as they entered: “When I entered it, it was at least 10 miles long...As I started flying through, it contracted...I was seeing what I call the fabric of time.” (30:43—32:57)
  • Navigational instruments, including the magnetic compass, spun wildly, and Bruce’s sense was that “part of it attached itself to the aircraft.” (32:59—34:00)
  • The aircraft became nearly weightless for several seconds; upon exit, they were enveloped by strange “electronic fog.”

• Impossible Arrival (04:57—05:40, 34:00—39:43)

  • Despite a normal fuel burn and airspeed, they arrived over Miami Beach in just 47 minutes, “skipping” over at least a third of the journey.
  • “What we just did was impossible. It didn’t seem possible that we did it, and everybody was fine. So we just acted like nothing happened.” (39:43, Bruce)

• No Scientific Answers (07:00, 59:48)

  • Multiple experts reviewed Bruce’s logs, radar records, and aircraft performance and could not explain the discrepancy.
  • Later collaboration with physicists suggested that shrinking “tunnel vortexes” might impact space-time (see later Physics & Vortices section).

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Electronic Fog: The Apparent Mechanism

• Sensory & Instrumentation Effects (32:57—46:49)

  • Bruce described the “electronic fog” as full of tiny sparks, giving a false sense of visibility but really blurring all perception: “It kind of sparkles, you can’t really see that far, but it gives you the feeling you can…Everything is fuzzy.” (32:59—34:00)
  • All electronic navigation and the magnetic compass failed or spun erratically.
  • Physical controls (yoke, rudder) remained responsive.
  • Passengers experienced panic, nausea, and speech distortion: “When he tried to speak, it would only be like a mumble coming out…He was all messed up.” (45:28—45:54)

• Possible Lethality of the Tunnel (47:15)

  • Bruce shares a nearly identical case where another small plane entered a tunnel near the Bahamas, exited disoriented over Cuba, and ultimately crashed, suggesting that getting trapped inside could cause disappearance or a crash.

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Aftermath and Interpretations

• Dealing with the Aftereffects (59:48—62:00)

  • “Hitchhiker effect” discussed: “It’s made me closer to time, more or less space time. I can kind of see the future sometimes…That’s happened quite a few times.” (61:11)

• Physical/Mental Residue

  • The episode alludes to others suffering confusion, nausea, and even passing out during similar fog encounters.

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Theories: Portal, Wormhole, Vortex?

• Physics and Space-Time (56:24—59:48)
  • Bruce describes capturing videos/photos of similar tunnel vortexes and consulting a physicist.
  • “When it turned into a polygon, that’s an indication it’s affecting space time.” The physicist was able to replicate a similar effect in his lab and (allegedly) patented a “warp drive” based on that principle.
  • Bruce: “I entered it 100 miles from Miami…when I came out…I was only 10 miles offshore of Miami. So I was teleported 80 miles, like instantly almost.” (59:48)

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Bermuda Triangle & Historical Disappearances

• Flight 19, USS Cyclops, and More (50:46—54:11)
  • The host references well-documented disappearances and recurring anomalies (radio/radar failure, confusion, mass disorientation) suggesting a possible connection to Bruce’s experience.
  • Bruce: “Nobody’s flown through that tunnel that’s alive anyway. Right now, I’m the only one. But many, many pilots and boats have been in the electronic fog.” (52:37)

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UFOs and Time Storms: Linked Phenomena?

• Bruce’s UFO Encounters (42:44—43:34, 61:15—67:54)
  • Soon after his tunnel encounter, Bruce described a close encounter with a classic flying saucer near Miami (“It was a regular flying saucer. Glowing orange, at least 200ft in diameter…” 42:57).
  • He notes the timing and proximity of multiple UFO sightings (with and without witnesses) and speculates about links between time distortions, portals, and UFO phenomena.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Describing the Shrinking Tunnel:

  “As soon as the aircraft entered the tunnel, it changed its appearance. These small puffs of clouds instantly formed…They’re all lined up all the way to the end…like looking down a rifle barrel…rotating counterclockwise...I was seeing what I call the fabric of time.”
  —Bruce Gernon (30:43—32:57)

• On the Impossible Arrival:

  “The flight took 47 minutes. And, you know, that wasn’t normal. It was like at least 30 minutes ahead of time. And I knew something incredible had just taken place, but I didn’t understand what it was.”
  —Bruce Gernon (38:58)

• Regarding Others’ Disappearances:

  “Would I have died? I would say, well, yeah, probably. I would have either done a crash landing, being so disoriented with the fog and lose control of the airplane, or I would have disappeared. That’s the really big question. Do they actually leave the earth into another reality?”
  —Bruce Gernon (47:15)

• On the “Hitchhiker Effect”:

  “I can kind of see the future sometimes. And I can say something that’s in the future sometimes without even realizing that I said it until I hear me say it.”
  —Bruce Gernon (61:11)

• Host’s Reflection on Flight 19:

  “That would be like me going to the grocery store I go to every week. And it’s like, well, I just took a wrong turn, and, you know, Wes is gone. He vanished. It doesn’t make any sense.”
  —Host (54:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro / Historical Summary: 00:54—07:10
• Bruce Joins/Initial Details: 10:29—16:27
• Flight Details and Entering Cloud: 16:27—32:57
• Tunnel Experience: 30:43—34:00
• Electronics Malfunction, Arrival Over Miami: 34:00—39:43
• Immediate Aftereffects & UFO Encounter: 39:43—44:11
• Passenger Effects/Impacts: 45:07—47:15
• Other Disappearances & Theories: 47:15—54:11
• Physics, Video Evidence, and “Warp Drive” Claim: 56:24—59:48
• UFO Encounters, “Hitchhiker Effect”: 61:11—67:54

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3. Additional Notable Moments

• “Donut” or “tunnel” cloud formations are regularly observed over Everglades/Florida Bay (56:24).
• Bruce’s wife and YouTube channel (Beyond the Bermuda Triangle) are mentioned as resources for videos/animations of these phenomena (09:17, 46:49).
• Bruce’s insights paralleled by stories of other pilots’ bewildering, possibly fatal, tunnel encounters (47:15).
• Skepticism and scientific review—Bruce sought analysis from meteorologists and physicists, some dismissing photo evidence as “just pixels,” later refuted by photographic labs (56:24).
• The “electronic fog” theory suggests a predictable, reproducible natural anomaly, not supernatural, functioning as portal-like phenomena (69:15—70:00).

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4. Resources and Further Engagement

• Bruce Gernon’s Book: Bermuda Triangle Survivor: Pilot Tells What He Experienced in the Heart of the Phenomenon (Amazon)
• Bruce & Lynn’s YouTube Channel: Beyond the Bermuda Triangle
• Host Contact: wesasquatchchronicles.com

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Conclusion

This episode of Sasquatch Chronicles delivers a deeply detailed, personal story of a headline-grabbing unexplained event within the Bermuda Triangle—arguably the clearest “survivor” account of instantaneous, seemingly impossible travel. Through Bruce Gernon’s testimony and follow-up investigation, the show explores plausible natural mechanisms (“electronic fog”), the physics of time-space, and possible links to other anomalous disappearances and sightings, blending personal narrative with bigger scientific and philosophical questions about reality.

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Transcript

[Wes]

Sara.

[Narrator]

The Bermuda Triangle. It's known for swallowing over 2000 ships and 200 aircraft over the centuries.

[Wes]

Good day.

[Bruce Gernon]

Envoy 34 12, 3000p discretion 3023 on 1.

[Wes]

3412.

[Bruce Gernon]

3025 on 3042.

[Narrator]

On December 4, 1970, Bruce Gurnan took off in his Beechcraft Bonanza. On board, Bruce had two passengers, his father and business partner. They took off from Andros island in the Bahamas and headed northwest for the Florida coast. This was a very typical flight for Bruce, as he had made this trip a dozen times. On average, it took him about an hour and a half from Andros to Miami. Bruce took off and started gaining altitude. At around a thousand feet, Bruce noticed this weird black cloud and it seemed to be growing. Bruce didn't have a choice. He flew into the black cloud. And he came out the other end just fine. At 11,000ft, Bruce noticed another very strange cloud. It was massive. Bruce had no choice but to fly into this strange cloud too, as well. At that moment, it became dark as night around the aircraft. There was no light coming through. But this wasn't a storm cloud and it was not raining. All of a sudden, Bruce saw a flash of light. It would appear and vanish just like lightning. But this wasn't lightning. The flashes were so bright it lit up everything around the plane. Bruce continued to fly his plane for another 30 minutes when he realized this

[Interviewer (Host)]

was the same cloud he had flown

[Narrator]

through the first time, but now it was in the shape of a tornado. He was almost flying through the center of it. Bruce said it was about a mile wide and it seemed to be endless. About a minute later, Bruce saw light at the end of the tunnel. Bruce kept the yoke straight ahead. He was almost out of this nightmare. But just then, unexplainable things started happening. The opening of the tunnel started closing in on itself. The navigational instruments on the plane started going nuts. The the compass was spinning by itself counterclockwise. It was like the plane was being operated by something else. Right before the tunnel closed on itself, Bruce was able to break free of this weird fog. Bruce would later say after he came out of the storm, for about five or 10 seconds, his plane seemed to be weightless. The clouds dispersed and Bruce was now in this weird grayish haze. After letting out a sigh of relief, Bruce contacted ground control and he wanted them to determine his location.

[Bruce Gernon]

November 9815 Lean 4 Dodge Radio. Go ahead.

[Narrator]

Ground control was confused. Bruce's plane was not showing up on radar. It's almost like he was invisible. A Moment later, ground control contacted Bruce and let him know he was showing up on radar. Now. He was actually in Miami airspace. Bruce was shocked by this information. It couldn't be true. The distance the Beechcraft was supposed to cover was about 250 miles. Remember, the whole trip generally took about 90 minutes, assuming there was no hiccups. But this time it only took 47 minutes. This model of aircraft can only cruise about 180 miles per hour. When you do the math, you realize this is physically impossible. Bruce thought the dispatcher must be mistaken. But after the clouds cleared, Bruce realized he was over Miami airspace. After landing the plane, Bruce thought I gotta solve this mystery. There's no way we can got here in this time. After landing, Bruce checked the remaining fuel along with his watch. The plane had not gone through the amount of fuel required for this trip. Bruce had the records pulled from Andros tower along with the records from Miami International. Again, the time does not add up. It is physically impossible to make this trip in the amount of time he did it. All the evidence in hand seemed to indicate that Bruce's plane just skipped over almost half of the entire trip. Looking for answers, Bruce took all the evidence to experts and scientists trying to find an answer. No one was able to give Bruce an answer to what happened that day. It's almost like Bruce was able to jump space and time. What really happened on December 4, 1970?

[Bruce Gernon]

It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelt me. And he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that, that shocked me. They don't make people that that big.

[Eyewitness/Other Guest]

The way it almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life. They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards. I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears.

[Wes]

91 1. What are you reporting? Jesus Christ. You better sir see him. Hello? Get somebody out here. What's going on now sir, that son of a is about 6 foot 9. I don't know. Do you see him now sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. O.

[Narrator]

This is Greg Andrews from Orlando, Florida and you're listening to Sasquatch Chronicles.

[Wes]

Foreign.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Welcome to the show everyone. Thanks for being here tonight. We're going to be chatting with Bruce Gernon and I've always Wanted to interview him there. In the intro you kind of heard the overall story of what happened to Bruce. If you get a chance, go check out his book. Bermuda Triangle Survivor Pilot tells what he experienced in the heart of the phenomenon. And it's available on Amazon. And Bruce and his wife created a YouTube channel called beyond the Bermuda Triangle. Bruce and his wife Lynn, they put together some pretty cool videos on there. There's animation and Bruce kind of talks about the tunnel and the electronic fog. But again, I'll include a link below. Go check out the channel and subscribe. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight. I want to welcome Bruce to the show. Bruce, thanks for coming on.

[Bruce Gernon]

Hey, Wes. Yeah, thanks for having me.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah, I appreciate you being here. I've always wanted to interview you and I've been so fascinated with what happened to you back in 1970. And I know your book, Bermuda Triangle Survivor Pilot tells what he experienced in the heart of the phenomenon. I know it's available on Amazon. Is there any other place people can find that book?

[Bruce Gernon]

No, Amazon's the main distributor of that book and I wrote that for young adults. So it's not very long. It's only like 100 pages. It's got the most details though I've ever written before, about the details of the part where I flew through this huge time storm, I call it, over the Great Bahama Bank.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Well, if you would, would you take me back to 1970 and walk us into this whole encounter that you had out there in the Bermuda Triangle?

[Bruce Gernon]

Yeah, that was on December 4th of 1970. That's the day you're talking about that I had this experience coming back from Andros island in the Bahamas. And Andros is the largest of all the Bahama Islands. And we were flying out of Palm Beach International Airport back then it was a 210 mile flight. And we would cross Andros interior of the island which is totally unexplored. And then we'd encounter the Great Bahama bank, which is the largest area of shallow waters in, in the Bahamas and, and maybe even in, in the entire Caribbean. It's called the Great Bahamas bank. And it's about 20ft deep on average. It takes up a large area between Andros island and Bimini. It's about 50, 50 to 60 miles wide and long. The length would be a little bit longer, probably about 100 miles. And we would cross over that and then approach Bimini and then reduce instruments on the airplane. Back then, we didn't have a lot of weather instruments, none on the airplane, but we had instruments that would guide us to Bimini. And then we'd go just to make a slight turn to the north, and then we'd head to Palm Beach International. So I had made this flight about a dozen times because we. We had a real estate deal we were working on in Andros. And. And the day before the. My dad and I and our business partner all went to Andros and we were working on the project of developing an island that's just off Andros. It's a part of Andros. Everything went good, but. So we were planning on leaving first thing in the morning, early in the morning. And probably like at 3, 4 o' clock or so, it started raining and thunderstorms built up. And by the time it was seven, eight o' clock in the morning, Anders island looked like it was entirely covered with thunderstorms and lots of lightning. And. And I was flying VFR back then, not really by instruments like the airlines were doing.

[Interviewer (Host)]

What's vfr, Bruce? I'm just curious.

[Bruce Gernon]

Visual means, visual flight rules. And then there's ifr, which is instrument flight rules. So when you're flying in bandwidth, you're supposed to be using the ifrs. And in vfr, whether there's restrictions on visibility. So the visibility was. It was probably three miles. It had to be at least over three miles to go vfr. But we didn't want to fly in thunderstorm weather, so we had to wait it out until finally it started clearing up in the afternoon. And so we went to the airport to. To see how the weather would look. And it was looking okay. It was just a light rain by 2 o' clock in the afternoon. So I pre flighted the airplane and we took off. And I took off at exactly 3:00'.

[Eyewitness/Other Guest]

Clock.

[Bruce Gernon]

And the time was the main part of aviation back then. It's called dead reckoning. You think you use time and your compass heading to figure out your location because they didn't have GPS back then, which made a huge difference today because you'd always know where you're located. When we took off, we looked at my watch, it was exactly 3pm so that was important that we know it at the time. And the flight should take right around 90 minutes to get to Palm Beach. And it could be just Over. That depends on the winds. And so we climbed up to a thousand feet and it was overcast at about 1500ft. We didn't know what the weather was. We couldn't get a weather report, which is really required to have a weather report before you go on a trip.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Is that something the tower would give you?

[Bruce Gernon]

Yeah, but you had to get up to altitude to reach the tower. There were no phones on Andros back then. So we flew over the interior of the island at a thousand feet and everything was stable. Just a light rain, though. And as we approached the Great Bahama bank and the ocean, I could see that looked like it was clear weather, which. So that was a good sign. We kept heading out toward the ocean. And then I could look out over the ocean and I saw this. The first sign of this strange time storm is what I call it. And this storm is really different than many of these other time storms that I've witnessed. This, this one was more like a squall, you could call it, compared to a squall, and similar in size, but not the first cloud. The first cloud was this lenticular cloud. And lenticular clouds usually only form at very high altitudes, like over 10,000, usually 20,000. That's a. Oh, it's like an oval shaped cloud, kind of like a lens of a camera. It looked harmless, but it was odd. It was like hovering 500ft above the great pound bank. And it was about a mile long and say half mile wide and maybe a thousand feet thick and had these silky edges to it. That's what made it look different than any other normal cloud at a low altitude. But it looked harmless. So it was right on my flight path. I was using this one inch instrument called the automatic direction finder, which was just a needle and it would point to radio tower on Bimini. We were heading direct to Bimini. And then we. So I flew over this cloud and then I got a hold of Miami radio and I got up to about 2,000ft or so and started filing my flight plan on the radio. They told me the weather was good and there were no, no storms in between Andros and Florida. And so that was great news and clear sailing, you know. And then when I got to about 4,000ft, I signed off with Miami flight plan, flight following. And. And so that's when I noticed that this little cloud that I had flown over was still right below us. That was unusual. And I thought, well, maybe it's the birth of a cumulonimbus thunderstorm. And I just happened to Fly right over at the same exact time that it was growing. So then the cloud caught up to us, and we're climbing at a thousand feet per minute. And it. It's building up faster than that. So that it was probably building up at 1500ft a minute. And so I had to go inside the cloud. And there wasn't any good visibility when we got inside it. We kept going. And then I was able. I popped out of it after I was in it for maybe 30 seconds or almost a minute, and that was good. But then the cloud would catch up to us again, and I'd go, have to go back in it. And this went on about five times. I had to go in it. And when we got to 10,000ft, my dad was the co pilot and the navigator. He suggested that we turn around and go back to Anders. So I had to think about that. And I. This guy was piloting command, so I told him, well, we're just going a little bit higher. And then, yeah, we have to turn around because we. We can't fly over 15,000ft because we need oxygen if we got up that high. But then when we got to 11,500ft, we broke free. It was clear skies again in front of me. But then when I looked to the sides of me and behind me, I was pretty amazed that this cloud that had built up underneath us had spread out behind us and on both sides of us. And I noticed it was unusual the way it was. Looked like a squall, but the edges of it were almost like that lenticular cloud. They were kind of. They were smooth. When I look to the height of it now, they did probably built up to over 20,000ft. And I didn't realize at the time I was going at 105 miles an hour. While I was climbing, apparently it was spreading out way faster than 105 miles an hour. It was building up and maybe 2,000ft a minute, but it was spreading out maybe over 200 miles an hour or so. But so visibility was about 10 miles. So on either side of me, I could see it spread out in that semicircle shape, almost like a horseshoe behind us and on the sides of us. I leveled off at 11,500 and relaxed at that point because I was a little tense going in and out of that clouds. But I didn't get to relax for too long. So I'm cruising now at like almost 200 miles an hour. Five minutes later, I look in front of me, and now here's that same shape semicircle or horseshoe shape, Taurus shape, they call it. But now it's in front of me instead of behind me, and it's almost like it's embracing me to go through it again, you know. And so that's what I did. I. I penetrated into it. But before I did that, I noticed another strange thing. It was. It was laying right on the surface of the ocean. Unlike a normal squall would have, like, rain underneath it, and the cloud base or ceiling would be maybe one or 2,000ft. And I could have flown under that, but there wasn't anything to fly under. And 10,000ft is the most dangerous part of most storms. So I knew I shouldn't fly through it, but I thought I'd penetrate it because it. It didn't look like it was any lightning in it or anything until I entered it. And. And then it was kind of strange again there. The visibility, instead of being like nothing hardly when we were near anders, now the visibility was at least 2 miles because I could see the ocean below me, and we're over two miles high when there wasn't any rain. But then when I got in like a half a mile, then I saw this lightning. And there were flashes, like, everywhere. These flashes would go off. Not lightning bolts, so they were just flashes, like a strobe light kind of. And the deeper I got, which was at least a mile, almost two miles, it turned to black and then turned bright white when. Whenever the flash would go off. So it's really weird. I'm sitting. I'm seeing clouds in the ocean below me. When it. Right when the flash goes. When the flash turns off, I can't see anything. It's like in a black abyss. So at that point, we're about three miles in. My dad says, well, what are you gonna do? And I. I didn't have to really say anything. I just immediately took a left turn and popped back out of the clouds.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Can I ask you, Bruce, and I'm not a pilot. I would love to be a pilot, but would it make sense to kind of dive down to the deck to get out of this storm, or does that make it worse for a pilot?

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, yeah, I've flown through storms before, and yeah, I would fly underneath them right through the rain and the lightning. It'd be a little bumpy and scary when you do that, but. But you could do that. And I was taught to never fly up into the cloud itself because that's where you can encounter updrafts and downdrafts, like over 100 miles. An hour. And at 10,000ft, they said it was the worst part of the storm. So you should either fly over it or under it, but not through the middle of it.

[Interviewer (Host)]

I would imagine, too, if you fly through a storm, your chances of getting hit by lightning go up exponentially. When you saw these flashes of light and you thought it was lightning, but it wasn't behaving like lightning, what, what did you think it was?

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, yeah, I thought they were lightning, but the unusual part was that they're kind of like heat lightning was they used to call them that I'd see often, but that would be lightning. That's from a distance. So all you would see is a flash instead of a bolt. And then there's the cloud to cloud lightning, which can be lightning bolts going back and forth in the cloud instead of going down into the ocean or the land, these are just flashes instead of the lightning bolts. So what I thought was, this is very intense. And, and the deeper I went in, the more intense this lightning became. So that's why I, I made a sharp turn to, to get out of. Became way too intensive. And I thought it was just another form of lightning. I have talked to some experts that have flown into storms that work for the government. And when I explained that to them, they, they said, yeah, they, they've seen that before. They've. They've experienced that before. And yeah, so I flew out of the cloud. So I'm still at 11,500ft. And so what I figured was I'd fly along the edge of it, but. And head south. But the first, as soon as I popped out of it, I contacted the Miami tower and I told them I'm deviating from my flight course, which was direct to Bimini. Bimini was like around 45 miles away. I told him there's a big storm and I don't want to fly through it. So I'm going to go around it. The air traffic controllers act a real calm, you know, no big deal. I can understand why now, but back then I couldn't. He didn't think there was any storms out there. And apparently this storm didn't show up on radar because just 15 minutes ago they told me there were no storms out there in the Bahamas, and here's this big storm. So he told me to call him. Call him back when you get around the storm. Sure. Okay. So I'm flying along the edge of the storm for a few minutes, and then I'm looking in front of me and I can see that the curve of the skull was aiming right back toward the storm that I had just escaped, the one that was right next to Andros. And then I realized, well, the two must be connected. And I'm kind of like trapped inside this donut shaped squall. I wasn't sure what to do exactly then, but then I, I noticed where two of the ends of the squall, and this was like almost on the opposite end of the. Where the squall formed in Andros. The two opposite ends, they spread out on each side of it. And then they form this Taurus shape. And then the clouds first connected on the bob and. And then there was a big gap, like a valley in between the two clouds where they had connected and that. And I could see it was clear sky, which was aiming right toward Miami. So I figured, well, I'll just shoot through that valley. So we changed our heading, which was like aiming right toward Miami. And the clouds kept building up. And then the anvilheads formed on the two clouds on each end. And so there was an anvilhead that kept forming. And then what happened was the two anvilheads connected to each other on the top formed a huge round opening now instead of a valley, and here I'm aiming right for it. And so this was a big decision whether to go ahead and fly through this, this big circular opening, a tunnel, or turn around. I figured, well, I didn't want to turn around because I'd end up having to fly through the whole darn storm. So I kept going and this tunnel started getting smaller. I've seen these, you know, after that, and I recently got a video of one of these. They usually take from three to five minutes to form. Right after the two anvil heads meet, form a circular opening which is probably a mile wide. And then it goes down to half a mile. And then within 5, 3 minutes even end up only like 100ft in diameter.

[Eyewitness/Other Guest]

And.

[Bruce Gernon]

And then it'll collapse and disappear. So it started off like a mile wide and, and I'm aiming for it, and then I notice it's now it's like a half mile wide and the center of it is a little lower than us. And it's at 10,000ft. We're in 1 5. So I start descending and then I notice it now it's only say 500ft wide. And so I went to full power and brought the speed up to about 230 miles an hour, the red line. Then we shot into the opening, which at that time was decreasing from 500 down to 400, maybe and the strange things happened. As soon as the aircraft entered the tunnel, it changed its appearance. And these small puffs of clouds instantly formed. And each cloud was about the size of a, say, a school bus. And each one was separated by, say, the. The length of a school bus. And then there'd be another one. And. And they're all lined up all the way to the end of the. Of the other end of the tunnel. And there was a whole series of them, like looking down a rifle barrel is what it looked like. And then it. I notice it's slowly rotating counterclockwise. And then I notice that it's shrinking. See, when I entered it, it was at least 10 miles long and horizontal. And as soon as I started flying through, went from 10 miles long to, like, only, only a mile long. It slowly shrank while I was in it, it contracted. And that's when I was seeing what I call the fabric of time. I was seeing time and space, space time activating itself into a different form.

[Interviewer (Host)]

What do you mean when you say that?

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, it's pretty complicated. I. I just had an interview with AI about this. What they came up with is pretty incredible. I don't have the notes in front of me. They. They explained what I was seeing as I went through this tunnel. I was seeing time being contracted. So it's. It's probably similar to a wormhole, but maybe different than a wormhole the way it contracted like that. So it ends up. I was. I was only in it for 20 seconds, and. And when I reached the other end of it, the wing tip scraped the edges of it. It was. It had shrunk down to like 30ft or so. And when I looked back after I exited, it collapsed right behind me and turned into a slit that was. And the slit was rotating clockwise now because I'm looking at it from the other end, and the blue sky that I thought I was going to enter just disappeared. It wasn't there. I was in this strange gray fog that I call electronic fog. I've interviewed many pilots that have been in this electronic fog. And it's not like a regular fog. It has an electric magnetic substance in it. And so when you look at it, it kind of sparkles a little bit. You can't really see that far, but it gives you the feeling that you can see far. It's kind of. It's really, really strange to. Almost unexplainable how you could think you can see far and yet actually you're not seeing very far. It makes everything kind of fuzzy. All around you. And as soon as that. And then also zero gravity, I was getting a feeling of zero gravity right around then. But that that went away after only 10 seconds. And then I look at all my navigational instruments and they're all malfunctioning. And so even the magnetic compass, the wet compass in front of us, is slowly rotating counterclockwise. And it was rotating around the same speed and direction counterclockwise as inside the tunnel. So apparently whatever was inside that tunnel, when I got out of it, part of it attached itself to the aircraft. I was able to contact Miami radio. I told them I was like 90 miles east of Miami. They could tell by the tone of my voice, I suppose, that I was in trouble. But I was kind of like a macho man back then and acted like I wasn't afraid of anything. And so the air traffic control ruler said was he can't find me on radar. That didn't help too much. At that point, my dad went into a state of panic. He grabbed the microphone from me and started yelling at the traffic controller. I had to take the mic away from him and calm him down because the airplane was still flying anyway. But I slowed down to about 180 and just concentrated on maintaining the same direction that I was in. When I was inside the tunnel. I didn't make any turns at all because my instruments were malfunctioning. So I guess I realized I don't want to use my instruments. So I just concentrated, using my mind to steer the plane on the correct heading. And then another strange thing happened. These lines formed around the airplane and they were like, parallel to my direction of flight. And I thought the lines went on for many miles, but in reality, now I realize they just went on for many yards. And what happened was the lines turned into cracks. And then the electronic fog electronically dissipated. And it took like, less than 10 seconds before the cracks that get so wide that they all attach to each other. And then it was just clear skies. And I turned around expecting to see a huge fog bank behind the airplane. And then there was no fog bank. I didn't understand that. It took me 30 years, actually, to understand it, that it was attached to us. I wasn't flying through it, I was flying with it. Just as soon as that happens, the air traffic controller comes on the radio and he's really excited. He says, I got an airplane directly over Miami Beach. And I told him, no, that can't be us. But my eyes hadn't quite adjusted yet because I was in that dull, gray Fog. And all of a sudden, the bright sun of Florida, South Florida. And then I focus and look down below, and there's Miami beach right below me. And I looked at my watch, and it said no. I told the guy, yeah, we're probably 80 miles east of Miami. He said, are you sure? And I'm like, yeah, no, wait a minute. That's Miami. You're right. And so I signed off there, and I flew from there to Palm Beach International. And when we touched down, I checked my time, and the flight took 47 minutes. And, you know, that wasn't normal. It was like, at least 30 minutes ahead of time. And I knew something incredible had just taken place, but I didn't understand what it was.

[Interviewer (Host)]

I wanted to ask you, Bruce, you and your father and your business partner, you guys had flown this many times. This wasn't like your first flight out of Andros. And many years ago, I sat down and did the math on your Beechcraft Bonanza aircraft, which is a single engine, and your top speed is like 200 miles an hour. I'm sure you could redline it and get another 20 miles an hour, but you're not going to push an aircraft like that for very long. You know, what normally takes 90 minutes. I don't even think you could actually do it in an hour with that aircraft. We hear you guys did it in 47 minutes. What was that conversation like? I think I would have been freaking out.

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, the truth is, we didn't have a conversation about it, but I suppose we were all in shock. There was nothing we could say because nothing made sense. What we just did was impossible. It didn't seem possible that we did it and everybody was fine. So we just acted like nothing happened. And the Bermuda Triangle had just become well known at that point. I had never. Never heard about it until a year later. I heard that there was this strange occurrences going on out there in the Bahamas, and. And the scientist, Ivan Sanderson, was the one that reminded me of it. He said it was. It had something to do with time. And. And that's when it hit me. I realized that what time was the answer, really, as to what happened. I had never thought of that until he mentioned it. And so I started studying time and UFOs, too, because just. Just a month after I had made that flight, I had a close encounter of the first kind. It's called with a flying saucer. I was flying with a friend at night, and. And I flew over Miami, and then I headed offshore, and it just happened to be the same Altitude that I was on before the 10,000ft and the same flight path I'm naming the opposite way is when I had this experience. My friend and I both see way offshore, kind of like a orange light. And it's making the strange moves, kind of bobbing up and down. It reminds me of the way Columbus explained what he saw once. He said it was like a candlelight in the bed. It kept making funny moves, and that's what this was doing. And then we got about five miles offshore. We had been watching this thing the whole time for like a minute or so. And all of a sudden, it shoots right at us on a collision course. It came right at us so close. It took up the whole windshield at one point. So it must have been 2 or 300ft in diameter. So I thought we were going to die. I thought that was the end. But I went ahead and made a sharp left turn deep as I could. When I looked back, it was disappeared. So that was really something. So I figured, well, UFOs seem to have something to do with this tune.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah, that's fascinating. You were that close to a ufo. You kind of mentioned it was an orange light. Was it like a ball of light, or were you seeing an actual ship, for lack of a better term?

[Bruce Gernon]

No, it wasn't. Not. It was not a ball of light. It was. It was a regular flying saucer. Glowing orange, say, at least two. Over 200ft in diameter and maybe 50 to 80ft thick. And then it had a dome on the top of it. That's not the first one I saw, but, I mean, that's the first one that I got close to. But then after that, I. I saw more of these flying saucers. All look the same.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah, I want to ask you about that. I know. You even had a Bigfoot encounter. I promised your wife I would only keep you an hour, and I don't want her yelling at me. Kind of going back to the tunnel for a moment. I realize all your gauges and everything are just going crazy while you're flying through this tunnel, but were the actual controls of the plane, were they working? I mean, did you have. I realized when you get out to the gray fog, you know, your plane is kind of weightless. You're experiencing this weightlessness. But in the actual tunnel, did you have control over the plane?

[Bruce Gernon]

Yeah, physically, the plane had complete control. Of course, the yoke controls, the elevators and the rudders and tail with cables. So it's all physical stuff. It was just the electronic stuff. Anything electronic was malfunctioning. But the engine kept humming, so that was good.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah.

[Bruce Gernon]

What pilots do, though, is they. When they get in this electronic fog, they. They don't realize that there is such a thing as electronic fog. And even if they did realize that, they would. They wouldn't know what's attached to them. They think maybe they're flying through a haze or something like that that makes them lose control and end up having spatial disorientation and then entering a graveyard spiral. That's happened many times to pilots.

[Interviewer (Host)]

How long were you guys flying in that electronic fog?

[Bruce Gernon]

Exactly three minutes. My dad went into a state of panic at one point. And then. This is what this electronic fog can do to you. And then our passenger went into a state of nauseousness. He couldn't.

[Interviewer (Host)]

He.

[Bruce Gernon]

When he tried to speak, it would only be like a mumble coming out. He couldn't understand not one word. And that was while we were in the fog. So I had to completely ignore him because he started to distract me, trying to talk to me, and I. He was. He was all messed up. So it can do many things to you. It can make you pass out. That's another thing it can do to you. It can, like, put you to sleep.

[Interviewer (Host)]

And when you came out of that tunnel, Bruce, you're now in this fog. You had said that there was lines forming. Would you kind of describe what you were actually seeing?

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, I think it had something to do with the. The atmosphere of transitioning from over the ocean to over the land, because that's exactly where it took place. It took place real fast. Maybe it was only five seconds and it was gone. So it's kind of hard to explain, but I've got it on my YouTube channel, on Bermuda Files is the name of our channel. And if you Google my name, you can see all these videos we've made. And one of the videos, or two of them will show what it looked like when the fog dissipated. It's animated.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah. And I'll include a link to your channel, Bruce, and I hope people go check it out and subscribe. I have watched some of the animations on your channel. The channel is called beyond the Bermuda Triangle. Check it out if you get a chance. Bruce, you know when you were flying through that tunnel and as it was kind of collapsing on you, do you think if you were still inside of it when it collapsed, it would have killed you?

[Bruce Gernon]

That's a good question, because I've been thinking about that for over 50 years. I think I would have died. Yeah, I think I would have died. Whether I disappeared is what the big question is. Will I, like, disintegrated into another dimension? Maybe that's the big question. Because I know there was a young kid way back in 1978. He flew a small airplane like mine, only even smaller, little Cessna 172. And he had two of his buddies with him, and they were head. They weren't going into the Bahamas, and so they were over Miami. Then they started heading out to, you know, probably Bimini, because that's a local pattern. And when you got quite a ways offshore, he entered a tunnel. And it sounds like the same area where I was. And when they got inside the tunnel, they didn't make it to the other end. So now he's like 10, 20 miles offshore of Miami, and then he pops out of the cloud and ends up he's over Cuba. So he was transported just like I was, only he ended up being transported to the south, where I went to the west. But. So they transported him south, southeast, and he ends up right over Cuba. And he. He wasn't even sure what island it was. The. So he saw a road, and he landed on the road. And I guess they're still all right, but everything's kind of. Still kind of hazy, they said. So he gets. Lands on a road there, and guess he meet. He meets a farmer or something like that. The guy's speaking Spanish. He's. Where am I? Cuba. Oh, no, I got to get out of here. Because back then they were having problems with Cuba. So they popped back in the airplane and they took off again. And then apparently this electronic fog was still attached to him. So now he's. He's flying somewhere in the Bahamas, and he's. I guess he's all confused, and he ended up crash landing in. In the Great Exuma, I think it's called, or Inaugua, that's another. Almost 200 miles away. Apparently, he couldn't handle it very well because the fog was still messing them up. And this time they made a crash landing, and he died. But the two. Two buddies of his survived, and they got to tell the story, but neither of them were pilots, and they didn't know what the hell happened. But they did explain about the tunnel and the fog. And so your question was, would I have died? And I would say, well, yeah, probably. I would have either done a crash landing, being so disoriented with the fog and lose control of the airplane, or I would have disappeared. That. That's the really big question. Do they actually leave the earth into Another reality. There's a lot of theories now. That's the. Where they go, if they disappear, if they went through a portal. Because they're saying these tunnels could be portals to another reality.

[Interviewer (Host)]

You know, the Bermuda Triangle really is a weird. A weird place. There's so many ships that have vanished there. It's not just aircraft, but actual boats. I think it was back in 1918, the USS Cyclops. It was a Navy cargo ship and it had about 300 people on board just vanished. No one knows what happened to it. And I'm sure you know the famous case of Flight 19 back in 45, where five U.S. navy, I believe they're flying Avengers and they run a normal training exercise. And I believe the. The flight lead, his name was Charles Taylor. But all of those guys in that flight, they had flown that training mission several times. This was kind of a final mission, and they vanished. They were gone. No one knows what happened to them. And then the rescue plane that went out after them also vanished. And there's a lot of theories trying to explain it away as something normal. But almost in all these cases, right before the people vanish, they're having trouble with radio communications. I think in Flight 19's case, the tower couldn't see them. They could communicate with them over the. The radio, but they couldn't see them. And Charles Taylor, the, the flight lead, he was like, disoriented. It makes me wonder if the rest of the guys were disoriented, because any one of those guys could have been the flight lead. Do you think some of these strange cases of. Especially when it comes to aircraft, them vanishing, do you think that they most likely experienced what you experienced?

[Bruce Gernon]

Nobody's flown through that tunnel that's alive anyway. Right now, I'm the only one. But many, many pilots and boats have been in the electronic fog. So this tunnel only lasts like three to five minutes and it's gone. But when it closes, my theory is that it emits like a sphere of this electronic fog. And similar to other fogs, the electronic fog can last for many hours. And according to the winds, if they're updrafts, it can go up higher and plane could fly into it up high. Or it could drift down to earth or over the ocean in the boat. Or a person walking even. Or a car could enter it. I've had over the years, there have been many people that have called me that have been in the electronic fog. And I kind of help relieve their minds because some of them were really bothered because they also went through space Time, there was a gap. All of a sudden, they're in another place. It could be 10 miles away or 20, whatever. They kept thinking, am I crazy, or did this really happen? And after I explained to them it really happened because it happened to me. And that kind of relieves them when they hear me tell them that. So, yeah, that fog has affected many people.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah. I was thinking about the account that the gentleman shared with you, Bruce, how they were flying, and then all of a sudden they're over Cuba and couldn't figure out how they got over Cuba. And it makes me wonder about going back to Flight 19. You know, one of the theories is Charles Taylor turned the wrong way, got way off course, got lost, ran out of gas, and they all had to ditch their planes in the ocean. But people tend to forget these guys had flown that. That same mission several times over. And these were all experienced guys. These are very experienced Navy pilots. And flying this same pattern over and over and over again. And this is the final time Charles took a wrong turn. I. I just don't buy it. That would be like you and I going to. It'd be like me going to the grocery store I go to every week. And it's like, well, I just took a wrong turn. And, you know, Wes is gone. He vanished. It doesn't make any sense. And so maybe going along with that theory with Charles Taylor, maybe he did fly, of course, but maybe it was something like what happened to you and what happened to that other guy that shared that account with you. And I know you had brought up time storms. You know, when you. When you think about, like, wormholes and black holes, a lot of weird stuff happens with time. They've actually proven with math, like with a black hole. If I were to see you, Bruce, fly into a black hole and I'm at a distance, I would never actually see you enter that black hole. It would almost be like kind of pausing a movie. But from your time perspective, you'd be dead. You'd gone through the black hole, you'd be crushed, you'd be dead. But from my perspective, I would just see you start to enter the black hole, but never really enter it. And I realize wormholes and black holes are two different things, but a lot of weird stuff happens with time in wormholes as well. You had brought up time storms. Have you seen. And I'm not talking about the electronic fog, I'm talking about the actual tunnel you flew through. Have you seen that before?

[Bruce Gernon]

I've seen many, many of them. They form in between two Thunderstorms. I had one good photo of them that I captured in 1978. But just recently I not only captured photos, I got a video. And we took it from on top of a five story condominium facing Florida Bay and the Everglades. And many of these storms form over the Everglades. So we watched this one form and I could tell, oh, it's going to be a, a tunnel vortex. And so we actually got a video of it. The whole thing took like about five minutes and then it dissipated. But we got some incredible footage of it. And then they, we took a close up of showed that the tunnel just before it collapsed, started changing shapes like polygonal shapes. And then it ended up in a square rectangle about 30ft in diameter. I showed this. I've been working with a scientist and he's a meteorologist and a physicist and mathematician. And he's the first one. I showed him the close ups of the tunnel and he said he's in Nebraska, professor, their college, the University of Nebraska. And he writes back to me, oh no, those are just pixels. He said, that's not a really square. I thought it was though. But I took the, the digital photo to a Miami laboratory for photography after I'd asked some experts and they all said that's real, it's not pixels. So they had the real laboratory analyze it and they said it's real, those aren't pixels. And so then I sent it back to my professor. And so he apparently did a lot of work on it and he thinks we discovered something amazing that has to do with physics. He says when it turned into a polygon, that's an indication it's affecting space time. He's been working on this for years and it's evolved into the creation of a warp drive engine that he's created in his laboratory. And he's even got a patent on it now. So he says in his laboratory he's created the same thing that I experienced when I went through the tunnel. He can transport space time. When I came out of the tunnel, that's when I really got teleported. See, I entered it 100 miles from Miami. I was in it like 20 seconds at the most. And when I came out of it, I thought I was like 90 miles from Miami, but I wasn't 90 miles from Miami. I came out of it only 10 miles offshore of Miami. So I was teleported 80 miles, like instantly almost.

[Interviewer (Host)]

I think when your average person hears that, that sounds insane. But we know where you took off from. We know where and when you took off from. We know where and when you landed, and we know what you were flying. I could probably buy into that theory. And I would love to see any research or anything about that professor there in Nebraska. I'm gonna look that patent up. One of the other things I was curious about when you guys landed, was there any physical effects that you guys had from the tunnel or the fog?

[Bruce Gernon]

Well, they say latest thoughts are that there could be something that they've discovered, they have at the Skinwalker Ranch out in Utah. There's. There's something going on there. It's like it could be a portal. Their scientists are analyzing it, but they say you get.

[Interviewer (Host)]

They.

[Bruce Gernon]

Some of the people that go there, they get what's called the hitchhiker effect.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Yeah. And the, the hitchhiker effect is. I guess a simple example would be you're investigating a haunted home and things come home with you afterwards. Is that kind of what you mean? I mean, would you explain the hitchhiker effect?

[Bruce Gernon]

The hitchhiker. I can explain the hitchhiker effect with me, but the hitchhiker effect that they get, I'm not too sure about. It relates to the. To that ranch and the strange things that are going on there. But the way it might relate to me is that it's made me closer to time, more or less space time. And I can. I can kind of see the future sometimes. And I can say something that's in the future sometimes without even realizing that I said it until I hear me say it and it comes through in the future. That's happened quite a few times with me. The first time I got it was shortly after I had had that experience in the Bermuda Triangle. A year or two later it was. And I. I knew we were going to see a flying saucer coming back from a ski trip we made in North Carolina. And. And we were on an airliner. And so I got the window seat on purpose because I knew it would be offshore. And then sure as heck, when we started coming into Palm beach, descending, there it was, the huge ufo, just like the one that I had a close encounter with. And it was cruising just offshore, not far offshore. And it was glowing orange and it was the same size as the one that I experienced earlier. And when it would go through a cloud, it would light up the whole cloud. You couldn't see it. There were scattered cumulatives clouds. And then it would come out and you could see it was incredible. And then after we saw that, that I realized I could see it again the next night. If we went to the ocean off of Delray beach in South Florida. I'd see this, the lion saucers again. So we go to the beach and I knew it would happen around 9 o' clock at night. And here they come. And so the first one, they were further offshore at this time. They were a mile and a half offshore. And the first one comes from the south and it's going, they're going fast, six, seven hundred miles an hour. And it goes from the north to the south right by us in just a matter of like five seconds or something. And then when it disappears out of sight to the south, here comes another one on the same exact flight path, all headed toward the, you know, like the Bermuda Tribe, like Triangle, I guess you could say. And the second one, the same thing. And then, then here comes a third one and I had these zoom binoculars and I zoomed in on it with the binoculars and I could see, oh yeah, that's definitely the same kind we saw with four with a date with a dome on the top. And the fourth one comes by, same thing. And then the fifth one comes by and when it gets right even with us, it makes a right hand turn with no radius, no curve. A square turn at 600 miles an hour. And it was silent. And then it flew right over our head. My wife was with me. And then when it got over our head, it made a flash of a green light and a, and a red light and then a white light as it left, kind of like imitating an airplane, but it wasn't an airplane. It was only like about 500ft above us or so. It was silent. And My partner, Rob McGregor, I wrote two books with him. The two, first two books we wrote, he's a great writer. He said that when it flew over me, it was as if it was saluting me. So I kind of felt like that too.

[Interviewer (Host)]

I was wondering when you said earlier you thought UFOs and these time storms were related, kind of what you meant by that. Prior to this experience in the Bermuda Triangle, had you seen UFOs before?

[Bruce Gernon]

I was 10 years old, living in South Florida. We had just moved there. My uncle and his family were business partners with my dad and they were developers and, and so that. But anyway, he was at the. My uncle and his kids, they were all at a drive in theater. When they're driving back home, they see this spear, a white sphere in the sky. This, this. It was, they thought the spear was almost like following them and it was making a bunch of weird turns and stuff. And so Then they all came home, and their home was right across the street from ours. So they all come running over to our house, and they said, well, there's something weird out here. You guys got to see this. So we came out and. And so then here's this sphere. It was perfectly round, and it was white, like plasma. And it was about half a mile away from us, and it was not much over 100ft high. And it was hovering. And we came out, and I got to watch it for over a minute. And then after about a minute or two, these strange drippings, like they look like almost like drippings of plasma started coming out from the bottom half of the sphere and dripping down and then dissipating just before they hit the ground. Then there was no other houses near it. It was out to the west of us, where there was just the wood, and it drips for the Spear for about 30 seconds or so. And then it just shot straight up and out of sight. Within, like, a second, it was gone. It appeared to have an intelligence anyway. I don't know if it was. If there were aliens inside it, but something was controlling it. Either aliens or controlled itself somehow.

[Interviewer (Host)]

You know, I've heard other eyewitnesses talk about that. I remember one account, the eyewitness said it was like gold, a liquid gold coming off the craft and dripping down. The weird part, though, there was no residue. There was nothing left. And I know we're getting pretty close to the hour, and I promised Lynn I wouldn't keep you over an hour, but it's been a real pleasure chatting with you, Bruce. It's been a real honor, actually. I started reading about your case back in 2014, and I think it was either 2020 or 2021. I kind of created that audio reenactment everyone heard at the beginning of the show. But to check out Bruce's book, go to Amazon. It's Bermuda Triangle Survivor pilot tells what he experienced in the heart of the phenomenon. And also subscribe to Bruce's channel. You get a lot of cool stuff on there. I was talking to your beautiful wife earlier, and I know you both work really hard on the channel, and you guys really should have more views. There's a lot of cool animation like we were talking about earlier. Go subscribe to beyond the Burrito Triangle, and I'll include a link below and check out some of Bruce's videos. But again, it's been a real honor, Bruce. Thank you so much for coming on.

[Bruce Gernon]

Yeah, well, I really appreciate you helping me to spread the word because most of the people probably believe. Majority of the people don't believe there's anything abnormal going on. It's all just natural in the Bermuda Triangle. But I agree, though, it is natural. The electronic fog is a natural phenomenon. And I believe that's the cause of the weirdness that goes on in the Bermuda Triangle. That's the main theory. And there's. There's a lot of authors now that are believing that and then telling everybody that it's the electronic fog that is so mysterious. So thanks for helping to spread the word about it.

[Interviewer (Host)]

Anytime, Bruce. You're welcome anytime. Thank you again. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is wesasquatchchronicles.com and if you get a chance, check out sasquatch chronicles.com you can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone

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