Another Heist at the Louvre w/ Yvette Nicole Brown

Summary

Podcast Summary: Scam Goddess — "Another Heist at the Louvre" w/ Yvette Nicole Brown

Podcast: Scam Goddess
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Yvette Nicole Brown
Release Date: November 11, 2025
Episode Theme: The recent $100 million broad daylight heist at the Louvre Museum in Paris — how it went down, historical museum heists, the intersection of pop culture, security, and art, and both hosts’ witty takes on schemes, scams, and glamour thefts.

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy, laugh-packed episode, Laci Mosley welcomes back fan-favorite Yvette Nicole Brown to dissect the jaw-dropping robbery at the world-famous Louvre Museum. Together, they dive into the details and aftermath of the daring theft of French crown jewels, the history and “curse” of the Regent Diamond, how pop culture shapes our view of heists, why art museums keep getting hit, and (of course) how to spot a scam in everyday life. It’s a blend of true crime, comedy, and witty pop commentary — signature Scam Goddess territory.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrity Scam Prevention & Personal Scam Stories

(05:25 - 12:00)

• Yvette reveals that scammers recently used her image and name to phish money from people. She warns listeners:

  “If somebody’s asking for money under my name, it ain’t me.” (Yvette Nicole Brown, 05:29)

• Laci details a recent phishing attempt where scammers claimed to have her "nudes" (she doesn't have any), reading the hilariously typo-ridden blackmail email aloud.
• Tips for recognizing scams: Poor grammar, urgency, unexpected requests, and typos are hallmarks.

2. Work Ethic, Hollywood Side Hustles, and Doing What You Have To

(06:13 - 07:41)

• Both Laci and Yvette laugh about their “we’ll work anywhere if we have to” attitude.
• Laci admits to eyeing a Chick-fil-A hiring sign between acting gigs.
• Emphasis: There’s no shame in honest work.

3. Pop Culture & Oversharing: ‘A Day In The Life’ and Inadvertently Teaching Crime

(12:43 - 14:26)

• Viral story: Workers posting “A Day in the Life” TikToks accidentally reveal company security codes, cash routes, and more.

  “She gave us a how to robbery!” (Laci, 14:32)

• The trend highlights how oversharing online can expose companies to risk.

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4. The Louvre Heist: How It Happened

(15:20 - 34:49)

Setting the Scene

• Four thieves, disguised as construction workers in safety vests, arrive at the Louvre at 9:30am.
• They use a mechanical lift (cherry picker) to access a remote balcony, enter with power tools, threaten guards, and escape on scooters—all in broad daylight.

Notable Moment

“Four people with a ladder and a dream... that’s all you need.” (Laci, 15:20; Yvette, 15:22)

Security Loopholes

• The Louvre’s financial struggles mean only 75% of the museum is covered by security cameras.
• Pop culture (Oceans movies) may have made people think robbing a museum is more difficult than reality.

Inside the Heist

• Thieves entered through a balcony by cutting glass, then threatened guards (armed only with disc cutters).
• In just four minutes, they took eight precious jewels worth ~$100 million, mostly from the 1800s.
• The famed (and allegedly cursed) Regent Diamond was left behind, possibly due to its bad reputation.

“They treated that like the Annabelle doll. They said, not on our watch.” (Yvette, 20:21) “Napoleon had it. His sword... He got exiled. They took that sword back.” (Laci, 21:02)

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5. Heist Logistics & Aftermath

(34:49 - 53:24)

• The thieves tried to torch their getaway lift but were stopped by a museum staffer who, notably, let them go otherwise.
• Security was so sparse that tourists filming the area didn’t know a robbery was happening.
• Police responded, but the robbers were gone, disappearing with the loot on scooters (by 9:38 am).

Security and Museum Culture

• The hosts poke fun at the lack of security, sharing stories about how a construction vest and a cone can get you anywhere in Los Angeles (and, apparently, at the Louvre).
• Discussion of museum priorities: Museums must balance public accessibility with security. Art must be displayed to be appreciated.
• Comparison to jewelry stores and banks, where security is far tighter and valuables are removed from display nightly.

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6. Historical & Global Context of Museum Heists

(53:24 - 64:30)

• Recap of other major Parisian art/jewelry thefts, including:
  • The infamous 1998 theft of Le chemin de Sèvres (never recovered)
  • Recent $11 million porcelain theft, and $700,000 in gold nuggets from the Natural History Museum
  • Kim Kardashian’s 2016 jewelry robbery in Paris — “those men were old!”

Why Heist Museums?

• Museums are “soft targets,” especially during visitor hours when security can’t lock down as in the movies.
• Stolen artwork/jewels is either instantly melted down/disassembled for sale OR goes into private billionaire collections.

“That’s the sociopathy of a billionaire... Only two people see it, but you stole it!” (Laci, 34:10)

7. Inside Job Theories & The Prisoner's Dilemma

(66:04 - 74:25)

• Speculation over whether the Louvre heist was an inside job, especially since the museum made public their security weaknesses after the theft.
• French law prohibits museums from insuring artwork, creating more incentive for recovery, and Laci jokes about “tinfoil hat” theories that heists are staged for increased museum attendance.
• Snitching in group crime: “There is no honor in thieves... If I get caught, I’m singing!” (Yvette, 67:07)

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Notable Quotes

• On recognizing scams:

  “That’s a great way to spot a scam, y’all — all typos. A professional company is not gonna send you from a regular web account riddled with typos.”
  (Laci Mosley, 10:05)

• On occupational honesty:

  “Ain’t no shame in a hard day’s work at all.”
  (Laci Mosley, 06:47)

• On security and the ease of the heist:

  “You can get anything accomplished with a construction vest, a clipboard, or even just carrying a ladder.”
  (Laci Mosley, 22:31)

• On the Annabelle-like Regent Diamond:

  “They treated that like the Annabelle doll, they said, not on our watch. We ain’t gonna be in my bag when I’ll kill over and die.”
  (Yvette Nicole Brown, 20:21)

• Summing up the whole approach:

  “It’s just the sexiest kind of robbery. They did it without weapons. They just threatened a little circular saw!”
  (Laci Mosley, 41:41)

• On snitching (group crimes and the Prisoner’s Dilemma):

  “If I get caught, I’m singing. I’m sorry, I’ma tell you exactly who hired me. I’m going tell you everything.”
  (Yvette Nicole Brown, 67:07, 68:25)

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Important Timestamps

• 05:25: Yvette reveals scammer using her identity
• 07:29: Laci reads out spam-blackmail text
• 13:14: “A Day in the Life” social media culture and security
• 15:20: Breakdown of how the Louvre heist started
• 20:08: Legend of the Regent Diamond and “the curse”
• 22:31: Construction vests, cones, and “confidence” at museums
• 34:49: Heist aftermath; attempted destruction of evidence & security response
• 53:24: Ongoing phenomenon of museum heists; Mona Lisa’s tricky fame
• 59:28: Eyewitness account from American tour group director
• 66:04: Speculation about inside job and group responsibility
• 73:43: Final thoughts: “Final thoughts for you, Yvette, about these thieves?”
• 75:14: Plugs, goodbyes, and Laci’s trunk-full-of-stolen-traffic-cones running joke

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Tone & Style

The episode is lively, comedic, and filled with genuine chemistry and banter between Laci and Yvette. While it covers historical and technical details of the theft, it does so with quick, funny asides and tangents. Their tone is teasingly irreverent toward both criminals and the French museum system, with lots of “con-gregation” in-jokes and full-on True Con energy.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Scams and fraud can happen to anyone — even celebs and podcast hosts.
• Oversharing online exposes vulnerabilities — sometimes literally giving criminals a blueprint.
• Most museums are far easier to rob than pop culture suggests — security gaps are real and sometimes publicized.
• Group thefts and heists almost always unravel with a little pressure. Someone will always “sing.”
• Inside jobs are everywhere: Don’t trust everyone in a vest!
• Never believe a scammer’s spelling.
• Final advice from the Scam Goddess: Stay schemin’ — but make it glamorous, keep it victimless, and never forget to laugh at the weirdness of true cons.

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For More Info

• Find Yvette Nicole Brown: Instagram [@YvetteNicoleBrown]; Podcast: Squeezed (Lemonada Media)
• Find Laci Mosley: All platforms @DivaLaci; Scam Goddess episodes and merch at scamgoddesspod.com
• Watch Scam Goddess TV: Now on Hulu
• Check out Laci’s book & merch: Available via Potswag and usual book retailers

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Stay con-ning, congregation!

Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

They laughing. That's. That's crack for them. Not, you know, the rock that ruins the lives. But today, okay, y' all know that we. This is. This is a special. This is a deaconess in the congregation. This is not her first time being on the podcast. She brings me so much joy on and off screen. You may have seen her on hit shows like Community, the Odd Couple, Drake and Josh, the mayor, and honestly, so, so much more I have to throw in there. I love the celebrity appearance on the Upshaws. Loved that role too. I mean, she's booked, she's busy constantly, and perhaps you've heard her wonderful voice on acting projects like Pound Elena of Avalor and Shape Island. She is an Emmy nominated actrisse. She is a caregiver and is educating us one episode at a time with her podcast, Squeezed on Lemonada. That's Squeezed on Lemonada. Congregation, please get up. Get up out of your seats. Stand up in your vehicles and welcome back my fave, Yvette Nicole Brown. Hailey.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Nobody gives an intro like you. That was lovely. Thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thank you for that. It's all true. You've been such an inspiration to, but also such a lovely mentor. So it's always great when I can scam you into spending an hour with me.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Hey, my pleasure, my pleasure, baby.

[Lacey Mosley]

How about this?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I didn't even know this was on. Cause they know if it's you, it's a yes. So they didn't even come and say, do you wanna do it? They knew it would be a yes, but they didn't tell me I was doing it. So I was like, I opened up the calendar. I was like, oh, glam today. Okay, let me find my lashes. So here we are. Here we are.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love to just show up for this thing. I be getting those too. I just had one of those. I had a producer session for Barbershop, but I didn't audition for it. So they were just like, hey, I just saw it in my calendar and I was like, hey, can I have a script or like, or anything about the character?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Could I know who the character is? Right. It just would help me to have.

[Lacey Mosley]

Some science just a little bit to know what is going on. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll get that to you. But this is time work. And I hate it. Cause they know it does. Because like when you're, you know, when you're on location, it's like, well, what plans do you have other than your job that you've been kidnapped for?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

And we know when you get off.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Don't they know? Don't they know?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Cause here we don't work work past 6pm and then overtime is if we work at 7, but I'm in at 5am every day.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

So it's so you outta there by 6 every day. Still a 12 hour day. You ain't getting away. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nah, but I mean a 12, you know, from the States, like a 18 used to be my norm. So I'm a little 12.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

No, I did community. Don't talk to me about long hours.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah, I know. You know?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How dare you? How dare you act as if you can beat what we did. How dare you?

[Lacey Mosley]

Friday every week.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

Ooh, I hate a Friday. I hate a Friday.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And we'd be deep in that Friday. We wasn't getting off until like noon on like. I'm like, y' all are crazy. Crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

I did a horror film once and I was like, never again. Unless they paying me a ton of money. Cause baby, going home from work at noon is crazy. How you doing today?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I am good. I'm excited to see what, what fraud and scam and shenanigans in ballyhoo have been happening.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, ballyhoo.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I like that. Catch me up. Catch me up, girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. And before I catch you up, I need you to catch me up. So what's your relationship with scams right now? Do you love them? Do you hate them?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Anything?

[Lacey Mosley]

The Zeitgeist. Have you recently been scammed? Anybody you know? It could be liter, literally anything.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Well, I found out I've been scammed today. Or someone's trying to use my name to scam. I'm glad we're having this conversation. Someone put my picture, my name and some other random stuff along with Gmail and they're sending people messages as me. And I know it's gonna end up with them asking for some money. So if you get an email from me randomly, it is not from me. I don't ask my fans for money. I don't ask my friends for money. So if anybody's reaching out going, I got this great opportunity for you, it is not me. So that scam I found out about yesterday and I'm gonna go on and take the screenshots, what I got and the IP address I done found and I'm gonna go and start me a little police report.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know that's right.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I believe in suing.

[Lacey Mosley]

I believe my good name.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All I got. I don't ask people for money. I never ask people for money. So if somebody's asking for money under my name, it ain't me.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like you're also not the greatest person to choose for that scam. Cause you are constantly booked. Like I wouldn't believe it was you asking me for money anyway. I'd be like, I turn around and be like, actually, Can I hold 20? Can I hold 5?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Can I get 5? But it also too is, everybody's always asking like they got some new money making scheme. Like I don't even ask people in regards to money. I don't offer opportunities. If you just give me $20, I got, I don't do that. So if it's a money, if it has anything to do with money, it's not for me. And also too, let me say this, it is, it is tight out here. So I could understand why somebody could think somebody needs. But I'm telling you, I will get a job, I'll go to McDonald's and be on fries before I ask anybody for money. So just know that. Same.

[Lacey Mosley]

Same. One time, I was, like, in between jobs. It was only for a few weeks, but I just. I don't know. I guess I really am a workaholic. But I saw a sign of Chick Fil A said, we're hiring. And I was like, huh?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I was like, wait, you do have that in you. Because I think we talked one day. We were talking one day, and I was. You were talking about something. I said, girl, don't nobody worry about you and work. If don't nobody work, it's you. You got my genes.

[Lacey Mosley]

We will work. Yes, we will work.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

So I will be employed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I will be employed.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not too proud to clock in or clock out.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I sure ain't done it before.

[Lacey Mosley]

We'll do it again.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

We'll do it again.

[Lacey Mosley]

We'll do it willing. We don't have to go back there. But, you know, But.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

But will if we have to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, will if we have to. Ain't no. Ain't no shame in a hard day's work at all. And you just reminded me that, like, there's another phishing scam that's happening. And it just happened to me recently. I posted it on Scam Goddess and on my page. But I wanted to give you guys, like, an update into it. Somehow these people got my phone number, which is not listed, and it's not the one that you can Google. Like, please. Like, there was a lot of. I moved since, like, my. I got doxed and everything. So, like, none of that stuff is the same. But they somehow got my real number, and they texted me this long, menacing text about how they had my nudes, and I don't have nudes. So this is how I was already. Like, there's no nude photo I want.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

To say that you have.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right, exactly. So wait. Okay, I found it. I'm gonna read it to you. So they say, hey, Ms. Lacey. Now, first of all. First of all.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

First of all, we already out. You already lost me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hey, Ms. Gorell.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

No, be serious.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hey, Son of the queen, right? If you gonna try to rob me, be serious, right? I heard a rap song recently that was so funny. It was like, if you. If you out here getting money, put a hand in the air. Or something like that. And it was like, if you out here getting money, put your other hand up. Now. Give it to me. I was like, what?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

How I wish I had the lyrics correct. Cause it was actually very funny. Cause it rhymed. But it was so funny to me. I was like, not me being robbed by this song, but this says, hey, Ms. Borrell, Ms. Lacypoo, I texted you on WhatsApp, and you never reply. I'm reading it grammatically as it says, let me just go straight to the point. And why they got the annoyed emoji with the eye roll.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, don't do that like you annoyed with me.

[Lacey Mosley]

You trying to rob me.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How you trying to scam me? Stop it.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is how we know the workplace. Like, everybody is exhausted out here. Even the criminals are like, oh, hello, God, I'm trying to rob you. Ugh. Like, how you giving me an attitude. You trying to rob me? So it says, let's get straight to the point. I roll. A nude picture of yours was leaked while you booked me as a massage and les partner. I don't know what that is, and I won't hesitate to post them all if you refuse to comply with three exclamation points. Now, you might have had something. You know, I love a good massage. Okay, I'm getting one tomorrow. I. I travel the world, and I get a massage everywhere I go. That's. That's my tourism. I don't need to see the mountain. I saw that on the Internet.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You see the table with some of that coconut oil? That's what I want to see.

[Lacey Mosley]

I want to see my head through the table. So since you're a celebrity and I have nothing to lose. Loose out of this. Not lose.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Loose. Come on, get on. Get on. The grammar and the spelling we got.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then we got a. A space and then some ellip and then another space, because, you know, that's how lipsies work. And this is. You're the one with the image and good reputation, not me. You have couple hours to reply to my message.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Not a couple of. Got a couple hours.

[Lacey Mosley]

You have a couple hours.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Couple hours.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All right.

[Lacey Mosley]

We couldn't have run this through a spell check or not?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

You had all the.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

The red lines were dancing under this thing. You just ignored it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I hate a typo. Gone.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's all typos. And that's a great way to spot a scam, y'.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, a professional company is not gonna send you from, like, a regular web account riddled with typos, Right? So it says, you have couple hours to reply to my message or I just posted on every social media. I repeat, you have the image space, exclamation point, exclamation point. I have nothing to lose. Oh, lose was beating his Ass, btw. Then they sent me a screenshot of my Instagram page. Then it says, I will start to D. I will start from DM your followers and sharing those nudes to them. Space 3 exclamation points.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How you gonna do that, though, if you're not in my account? How you DMing anybody as me if you're not in the account?

[Lacey Mosley]

Then they got a video of me saying, this is you. Not gonna lie. You have a sexy body. This is a video that I posted on my Instagram story years ago. But, like, still.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

And so then it says I don't respond, right? And I have my red receipts on. So I was like, it doesn't matter if you know it's me or not. And so they said, yo, ma', am, now I get it. You don't care, right? And literally nothing after that. And I was like, how long? October 18th.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How long was. Oh, well, it should be up by now.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't have anything to put up.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I know, but listen, with AI, we all got something to put up, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

That's what I'm saying. If y' all see you count them fingers.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All I'm saying, though, is make sure she's delicious and buttery, right? I ain't got no news, but if you gonna make one, make it get Halle Berry or somebody put my head on her.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know that's right. Give me some more work.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Give me a little more supple. Give me Meg thee stallion. Put my head on Meg thee stallion. I would happily say that is my news.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'd be like, I am so ashamed.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm so ashamed that my buttocks is for the world is looking at my boobs, and they Meg's boobs.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm like, reposting the photo. Like, I know y' all saw this, and I'm so ashamed.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm so ashamed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Please, like. And subscribe for my pain, Literally. But these kind of phishing scams, they're trying everything these days. Anything and everything. And no matter if you are working in entertainment or some type of public figure, it doesn't matter. Because now we all have social media to the point where all of our information is out there. Everybody want to be the main character. Everybody want to go viral. So everybody putting their business out every single day. So this can be done to any person. It doesn't matter what your station is. Cause we all know the nurses love to dance next to their patients.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Coding and then losing the job, which is the quickest way to lose your job.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my gosh.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Turning that phone on at your church.

[Lacey Mosley]

What happened to the historic hoodwink? Did you hear about that substitute teacher in Mississippi who got fired after her first day because she was videotaping the kids?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

No, why?

[Lacey Mosley]

She was doing A Day in the.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Life with the faces of the babies.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. And she, like, filming herself walking in and out the classroom. And I saw one TikTok that made me laugh so hard. That was like, when people film A Day in the Life Life and they had an extra phone. So it's like you see them setting up the camera when they get out of the car to, like, get back in the car and get out of the car, like, talk.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yo. Did you see the lady who had promptly lost her job, who did A Day in the Life going into the airport.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

With the codes. Putting codes in to open up the change drawers.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was literally a how to. How rob. How to rob the airport.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

The airport where you come out, where you get your money, the route you take the door, you go into the security guard, your name badge, your security badge. It was everything. And she crying. I done lost my girl. Please. I wanted to fire you. I didn't even hire you and I wanted to fire you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. We gotta get you up outta here. You are a national security risk.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Security risk. A mess. Just a mess. Where should I.

[Lacey Mosley]

A day in the life at the CIA. So first I start with, like, what are you doing? What do you mean, what are you doing?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Day in the Life at the bank. When I get out the thousands. This is the code. What are you doing?

[Lacey Mosley]

This is how much money we keep on hand. This is how much money we give to the. And we do these pickups at 6:03 sharp every day.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Like, every day. That's when the Brinks truck comes. His name is Tony. Don't do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Get ready with me. And Tony loves to drive on Route 6. And he always uses the restroom at a 711 along the way.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And he leaves the truck open and running. Don't do it. Don't do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Open and running is great. Like, she gave us a how to robbery. And speaking of robbery. Ooh, nice segue is the theme today. That was your segue. You brought that up. Thank you, Yvette. That is the theme of the show today because we are getting into the long anticipated. Y' all have really hit me up about this. And you knew I was gonna do it. Cause I was literally. I was reading this news article and I think a little drool fell out of my mouth. Like, I was like, are you kidding? We are Talking about the most recent caper that took place at the famous Loret Museum in Paris. Yes, Lou Vray, the Louis de Loufre de Loufre. So four people with a ladder and a dream.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's right. Ladder and a dream. That's all you need.

[Lacey Mosley]

And power tools.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's all you need.

[Lacey Mosley]

Broke into the world's most visited museum in broad daylight before escaping on scooters with French crown jewels worth more than $100 million. So first of all, shout out to the broad daylight of it all.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's that's bold. That's, that's ballsy scams.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's the season to come together over your holiday favorites at Starbucks. Warm up with a creamy caramel brulee latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai, or share a velvety peppermint mocha. Together is the best place to be at Starbucks. Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. That's the sound of your feet stepping over those fall leaves. And what better way to enjoy your fall feelings than being covered in quints. I know I love to be and y' all know I love to be. If you've seen my Instagram, I'm in quints all the time. Quint has it all. $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters made for everyday wear. Denim that never goes out of style, y'.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Get them.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, I mean, listen, when I saw them pouring soup on the Mona Lisa, I thought, they don't have enough security.

[Lacey Mosley]

They get so close.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Didn't you get up there with girl and threw the tomato soup on her? What did you do now? They protected her with a little plexiglass, but still, I don't think you should get that close.

[Lacey Mosley]

Lisa was sitting there like, what the helly?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

She like, what?

[Lacey Mosley]

And Lisa, Lisa wasn't even that girl back in the day. The whole reason that she became that girl was because she was stolen herself by the person who installed the protect. Like the framing for her. Originally he stole and they made a replica.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Cause he knew, he knew how to get up in there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, because he put her up in there, so he knew how to get her out.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And she bought the size of a postage stamp. You really could put her under your arm and go on out of there. She's a tiny little lady.

[Lacey Mosley]

So underwhelming.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Tiny lady. I was shocked the first time I saw her. I was like, that's how big she is. Yeah. Tiny little, tiny thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

And people are waiting in line in droves. They're like crowding around it. I remember I have a picture in front of it and I was very unimpressed.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was like.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I just really. Because she looks larger than life when you see her. Do you know, as we talk about this. This. The scamming of. The fraud of taking of the jewels. Did you hear that? They left one behind. And you know why?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, they dropped a crown.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't know if they dropped it or they left it. Cause, you know, they say that one's cursed.

[Lacey Mosley]

That what they say the Regent diamond is cursed. And they didn't take that one.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's the one they didn't take. That's what I'm talking about.

[Lacey Mosley]

They left it right when they said.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They treated that like the Annabelle doll, they said, not on our watch. We ain't gonna be in my bag when I'll kill over and die.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I know that's right because there's so many. It's just like a lot of weird deaths around the Regent Diamond. Like, obviously, you know, Queen Antoinette, she got her head chopped off. Napoleon had it. His sword. He got exiled. They took that sword back. The Indian enslaved Indian man who found it put it in his leg. Like, he cut a hole in his leg and put it in his leg and smuggled it on a boat and tried to bribe the captain of this boat, this Englishman, for his freedom. He was like, if you give me my freedom, I'll give you half the cut on this diamond. And of course, the Englishman was like, yeah, for sure. For sure. And then just killed him and kept the diamond.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, that's curse. That's curse right there. That's the curse right there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep, that was the curse that it was stolen from this Indian man who found it in his own country's minds. Oh, yeah. While he was being enslaved.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Don't do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So don't do it. That's what y' all do.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Bad juju on that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Somebody. Somebody on TikTok was like, I love. The heists are back, and I really want to make some requests. Can we hit the British Museum next? And I was like, they got a.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Lot of African stuff up in there. They got a lot of stuff they should have.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thing is, look at what we stole. I love that they think that colonizers think that, like, the presentation of it all takes away from how awful, you know, what it is to acquire it was. You know what I mean? Like, how they stole it from people, how they murdered people, how the sun never sets on the British Empire means we literally broke into everybody's crib and just claimed it and killed all these people.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Whatever we wanted to take, whatever we wanted to take to wherever we want to take robbers.

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all get that cherry picker back together, and y' all head on over to the UK because we need a favor. We need a favor. Go get our shit back. I'm tired of the museums. Like, look at what we saw. We put a light on it. We put it in a little box. So is ours now.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh, Lord.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the heist. Four thieves dressed in yellow and orange safety vests, disguised as construction workers, arrived at the L' Hue Museum in Paris at 9:30am on October 19, shortly after the museum opened to visitors. Now, I do want to say you can get anything accomplished with a construction vest, a clipboard, or even just carrying a ladder.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not. Who gonna question you? Who gonna check you?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Nobody. I ain't got time for that. I'm here to see the lady. I don't have time to see where you're going, what you're saying. Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've literally done it myself. Like, when we were shooting Scam Goddess for Hulu, we had permits to shoot on the sidewalk. We did not have permits to shoot on this specific street, but we needed to get a shot of me getting out of the car. And I was so worried about my crew, like, getting hit by cars that I was about to get hit by a car. Chile a story for another day, but so me and one of my producers were like, let's go to Walmart tonight and get some vents. And so we went and we got reflective vests, and we gave them to the crew. And then they would just put their hand up and stop traffic.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And people would stop, and people would stop. See what I mean? I'm gonna get off of my street and help me with my parking over here. I'm gonna get a vest.

[Lacey Mosley]

I got a traffic cone in the back of my car. And so what do you do?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

What do you do with the cone scams? You know what? Fraud. What do you do with the cone in your trunk? What do you do?

[Lacey Mosley]

When I was parking on the lot at Paramount shooting, icarly, if we went out for lunch, because we would have an hour lunch. If we went out to lunch, like, and drove, because it was in Larmont, basically. So if we drove, you know, to Larmont Village, my parking spot would always be taken, and I would always have a good spot because I would get there really early in the morning. So eventually, I just took one of the traffic cones that I saw holding somebody else's spot, and I put it in my trunk. So then when I would back out, I would Take it out of my trunk and I would put it in the spot that I was in and then I would come back and nobody was watching.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Did you, did you just admit to theft and fraud? You just admitted to theft and the fraud was enough, but you done just told it. I thought you bought the cone. You done stole the cone.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I'm just borrowing it. Cause Paramount gonna give me another job and then I'm gonna bring it back. I'm just manifesting for when I'm back on that lot.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And then send your letters and I'm gonna give it back. Send your letters of shock and awe to Dina.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's a borrower.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

To Ms. Lacey. To Ms. Lacey Queen.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's just Paramount gonna book me again and then I'm gonna bring it back. We're besties. I was just like, sis, can I borrow this? And then Paramount was like, go off the tower. Like, yeah, it works, it works. Oh God. So, so they arrived at the museum at 9:30 in the morning. So these robbers didn't even do this early. They, they, they slept in. They probably had a nice little croissant, little break.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Cause some of the, you wanted the crepes that got a crepe as they walked over.

[Lacey Mosley]

Definitely got a crepe, you know, a little cheese. And they were, they were fed, they were ready, they were energized. So the Louvre is the largest museum in the world. It gets more than 8 million visitors a year and has about 35,000 works of art on at any given time. Including some of the most iconic works in western canon. Even if you don't know art, you know the Mona Lisa, like we were saying before, and the Venus de Milo and the Winged Victory, like even if you don't know the names of these, you've seen these iconic pieces of art. And we talked about how Mona Lisa got her fame. Cause Mona was just one of the girls on the wall and then she got stolen and then, you know, she became that girl.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the burglars used a vehicle mounted mechanical lift to get into the Gallery of Apollo via a balcony close to the scene river, the scene of the crime. So they left behind their ladder leading up to the first floor window. Now this ladder kind of looks to me like a cherry picker. It's like a long ladder that extended up to the second floor balcony. And then they rode in this little box all the way up the ladder to the balcony. They got to the balcony and then they used their, their electronic tools. Yeah. So like basically almost like a Cartoon cut a hole in the glass and climb through. Wow.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And all this is happening in daylight, so no one's even watching from this side. So no one's protecting the perimeter of the. Of the museum at all, basically.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, so remember, they're a little understaffed. Right, right. And there's no entrance right here. So they're not thinking that somebody is gonna come over with a cherry picker, basically, and just pull up to the joint, which it just feels.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

The picture I'm looking at looks very sparse. And I guess this is why they chose this area, because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of foot traffic. And I'm just thinking to pull up some piece of machinery that large without a permit or. Well, they had the vests. They did have the vest.

[Lacey Mosley]

The vest was the permit.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, you're right. Let me stop you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They had the vest. They had the vests.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cause otherwise, why would you have the vest?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And the cones? They got the cones. They went to Paramount and got three cones. So they ready to go. They ready to go.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not. I'm in it. Okay. I did provide a few cones. I didn't know the cones before. I used to be selling cones that I steal. I didn't know that they were going to use them for robbery. No. So this is after the police have kind of sequestered the scene, but you can see even now that there's not, like, a lot of people there. And I actually caught a few videos on TikTok of people who were there at the scene of the crime and had no idea they were taking videos of the scene and being like, I'm in Paris, it's so beautiful. And as they pass this part of the Louvre, you can see the cherry picker sitting up there. And this is before the police cars and the tape. So they didn't even realize they're filming a robbery being taking place. And this is firsthand knowledge that I have because my showrunner right now, he took his two daughters to go to Paris the weekend that this happened. And they're the cutest little black girls. Oh, my God, I love them so much. And they got up to the building, they had their tickets, and. And everybody there was being so hush, hush about what happened. So they were like, hey, we have our tickets. And they were like, the museum's closed. And they were like, what? No, it says it's open. And they're like, yeah, no, no, it's closed. And, like, would not tell them why. And so they had to get online before they Understood that a robbery had taken place. So they were so shook and embarrassed, they weren't telling people why they couldn't code to the Louvre on that Sunday.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Wow. I'd be so upset if I came all the way to go see the Louvre and then find out I can't get in because somebody didn't use a cherry picker to steal stuff.

[Lacey Mosley]

And like, they were. They were so excited to see the move Mona Lisa. But there, you know, my showrunner is trying to be like, but you have an even cooler story. You were here when it got robbed, right?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's true. Very few people can say that.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they got through the window, like I said, using a disc cutter. And then they then threatened the card.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

The.

[Lacey Mosley]

The guards with the disc cutters who evacuated the museum and cut through the glass of two display cases containing jewels. So they got in with their circular saw us. And then the security was like, wait, no, no, no, no, listen.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Send your letters. We do not, we rich listeners of scam goddess, send your letters.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, no. And they're like, swiper, stop swiping. And they were, we gonna cut y' all with these saws. And they were like, okay, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Bye, bye. You gotta get close enough to get em with the saws. This is not a chainsaw. It's a little something.

[Lacey Mosley]

They don't carry guns.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's not good either. Somebody needs to have a weapon. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love this for them. This is how robberies should go. Like, look, if you up on me, you up on me. I would rather not get hurt and leave with my life. I'm not dying over the colonizer jewels.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You right, you right, you right, you're right. What am I talking about? You right, you right.

[Lacey Mosley]

I will die for these shining rocks.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I won't even shine for mine. If I had some valuables in this house, which I do not, I wouldn't die for them.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, I ain't never seen the valuable. Don't even think about it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Y' all got this from Macy's. Gonna take it, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

You can have here the costumes.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

The costume jewelry department is where I get my jewels. Go take this $5.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've never owned nothing real.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I have never owned anything real because I don't see the point. First of all, people might assume that it is real because I have it on me. So why, who am I? I. My wedding ring is real. Allegedly, I'm lying.

[Lacey Mosley]

I literally wear a copious amounts of designer.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't. I don't. I mean, I got some, I have some designer stuff for back from. Back in the day.

[Lacey Mosley]

Back in the day. I'm getting more practical, okay? I haven't been in a Chanel store in, in, in a few years.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I have never been in a Chanel store, okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

Never.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Lou. Lou and Gucci had me in a chokehold one time.

[Lacey Mosley]

I went for my mom, okay? So I wasn't always May.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, you gotta, I got, you gotta let it go. I, I let all that luxury go.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I'm letting it go because I got classic bags too. So I was like, I can wear these forever. I don't need to was walk around wasting money on a purse, okay? I'm trying to get it for free. I'm trying to work hard enough that people start giving me everything.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Somebody give me, somebody give me a Louis Vuitton. Come on, Louie. Come on. Let me hold some. Let me hold some.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let me hold some.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Lou.

[Lacey Mosley]

Literally. But, you know, iconography is what it is. And then like once I started really studying leather and stuff like that, Coach makes some of the best quality leather bags out there.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They always, always have. Back in the day, they would repair your coach bag for the life of the Coach bag. You send that sucker in, cuz it had a little scuff or something. They would make that thing buttery and send it right on back to you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Remember, we cared about quality.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I remember last year.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's why it's so difficult for me now when I see like younger generations thrifting like the vintage don't hit like the vintage used to hit. Because people used to really make pieces with so much integrity that like a vintage piece would have such great quality. Nowadays they waiting for you to let it disintegrate in the ocean. So it's only worth one wear and half a gosh.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's right. That's right. You ain't told no lie.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know it's painful. I love, I love, I love clothes and shoes and purses. But anyways, besides the point, we're back to the jewels.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they take these saws and they start cutting through this glass that contains these jewels. And we have a shaky phone video of the heist left now.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Phone cameraman, somebody got.

[Lacey Mosley]

I wish you could have got a little more steady. But we'll take shaky. We know you were scared. You didn't want to get circular sawed. That's fair. Okay, so these are the construction worker robbers getting to work. They're very calm.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They really are.

[Lacey Mosley]

They look like they cut glass every day.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

From a Case heard two of them.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Might have got caught already. What I heard, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the thieves were inside for four minutes and made their escape on two motorcycles.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Scooters.

[Lacey Mosley]

Scooters. Excuse me. Waiting outside at 9:38am Remember, they got there at 9:30. Let's talk about it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's a quick. That's a quick heist. That's a. That is an Ocean's 15 version of a heist. Get in and get out.

[Lacey Mosley]

They rode along the scene and they disappeared. They got away with eight pieces of crown jewels from the 1800s, which once belonged to French rulers including Napoleon 3rd's wife, Empress Eugenia. So they took the jeweled headbands, necklaces, earrings and brooches worth about $102 million. They also Eugenia's crown, but they dropped it on the way out. That's what I was talking about. But they did leave the Regent diamond that you were talking about. I think one because of the curse and also because it's a $60 million diamond that you would have to cut so much for it not to be recognizable on the black market. Otherwise no one would want to put their words on it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Right. It's not worth.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it's not worth the trouble. The rest of these pieces, people either suspected that, at least what I've been seeing, which I kind of agree with these theories, that these four robbers either already had a billionaire who had a list of the things that they wanted for their private collect, so this was just them running to the store and picking it up, or they were taking pieces that they could easily like break down and resell the diamonds after just reshaping them a little bit because they weren't too aggressive of a size.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And you're saying display. You mean you think that there could. People think that there could be a billionaire that wants to put a crown somewhere in his house under glass and then what? Explain to people that where. How is he going to explain anybody where got it? He just wanted to collect it.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is the sociopathy of being a billionaire, I guess. Like you have more money than what you know how to do with. Maybe only two people would ever see that. You know what I mean? But you stole it. You know you stole it. And so that's like you're not a murderer, but you are like a thief of high end things.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Absolutely. Okay, got it.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's how you get your kicks on Route 66.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Sick.

[Lacey Mosley]

So. But it's either one. And so people are hoping that it is somebody, a financier who wanted these things illegally because at least then the jewels are more likely to be intact in their, you know, historic state. But if they just really came in to get the bag, then this stuff is probably already melted down. It only takes an hour.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's already gone. It's already changed into whatever it needs to be for them, Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

I hope it floats its way to me. I'd never know. But I wanna. I wanna have a piece. Why not? Y' all stole it anyway. Give it back. So the gang tried to set fire to their ladder vehicle so they could destroy the evidence, but were stopped by museum staff member. Police later found power tools, a blowtorch, gasoline, gloves, a walkie talkie, and a blanket at the. No one was injured during the incident. I think it is so funny that there is a museum staff member who saw these people. It was like, hey, hey, don't set the truck on fire. Have a good day. And like, you. You literally caught the robbers, bro. He was like, they don't pay me enough.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I mean, listen, I get it. And if they. And if they have no weapon, they can't protect themselves and they don't know what these people coming to do, right? They tell you if you try people trying to steal stuff from Target or Walmart, they say, go on like them, go. Don't risk your life.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. I mean, Target builds cases against people. Fair warning, y', all, if you're stealing from Target and you think you're getting away with it, at least switch up the stores. I mean, that's not what I said. Stop and don't.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't know if switching helps either, because I think that. I think they might be sharing the.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are they sharing info now?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, I think they sharing info of the. Of the people.

[Lacey Mosley]

I. I thought targets were like the police stations, like in the 70s, where, like, you could do a. You could do a crime and then just move the state and nobody knew new. Ooh. If the targets are starting to share information, y', all, it's. It's a wrap. But they wait until they got you on a felony charge. They'll let you steal enough to where they can really press charges. So you're not getting away with it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

People think that camera is just the one facing you when you doing the. The checkout, the self checkout. They got cameras over the self checkout. So even if it looks like you scanning everything in the camera in front of you, if you're doing that little scam, the. The above one can see if you scanning everything in it before going, that bag. I be watching them YouTube videos, they telling you everything.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they really do. It's just. It's harder to steal these days, guys, okay? I told y' all about how upset I got when I had. I couldn't steal bags from pavilions no more. Now, look, I was buying the food. I wasn't putting an apple tag on a steak. But I thought I should at least get a free 10 cent bag. Okay? I'm bringing up my own groceries. I work here. I'm getting my wages. And now they got like a little bag overlord. So you got to put in how many bags you want. And then the bag overlord comes over and she start counting out the bags. Yeah.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Let me tell you something. 10 cent is. Is wonderful. I was in Canada recently and I got charged $2 for a bag.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, it's €1 here, and the euro is stronger than the dollar, so that's $1.21.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's not good for a bag. I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I got my little disposable bags. I be walking around trying to be as green as the grass. Cause they don't play robbery.

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[Yvette Nicole Brown]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Can I have a. I have a question. Why would they release this information? Why would they tell people that it's only 20 where it's 20 and when it's where it's 45? Because you're basically just telling everybody this is where you come to get your items.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it's given that airport lady who.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Worked at the Max. It's given inside job to me because I'm thinking, thinking these jewels are probably, you know, insured.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And if the Louvre is having some financial problems, which they are. Which is what easier way to get an influx of money than to have something stolen.

[Lacey Mosley]

Exactly. And then also allegedly.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm not allegedly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Allegedly. These are all theories. Okay? I got my. You see, I got my aluminum foil hat on.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah. These are all theories.

[Lacey Mosley]

My other aluminum foil theory is like, hearkening back to like, the Mona Lisa. When it was stolen, obviously it became super famous and everybody wanted to see it when it came back. But now we have these, like, in depth descriptions of these pieces. People are now more interested in these pieces. They're more interested in Napoleonic era.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

So when they get them back, then.

[Lacey Mosley]

The girls are gonna be lining up.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yep. See? Yeah, that's tinfoil. Y, but I'll take it.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is the new Mona Lisa.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It feels right. It feels right.

[Lacey Mosley]

They were like, we overdue for a new Mona Lisa. Okay. They kind of getting tired of her. They know she's small, and a lot.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Of people talking about the museum, you know, and if, again, if they're going through some financial difficulties, what better way to get people coming in to, you know, see the scene of the crime or, you know, just saying.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, if I lived in France, I don't know, I might buy me a construction jacket and go in there and have a photo shoot for the kicks.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All right. I don't think anybody with a little yellow vest getting back in the Louvre anytime soon.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, I would fold it up in my backpack and then I'd Take it out right when I got to the Louvre, like, what's up, y'? All?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And then they tackle you to the ground because they are looking for anyone. And then they watch this episode to find out you be stealing cones, traffic cones. And they're like, she is a thief. Call 100 million jewel heist is all starts somewhere.

[Lacey Mosley]

It does.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You know what?

[Lacey Mosley]

I could get tempted. Okay, I do love me a little heist. I just love a little. It's just the sexiest kind of robbery. They did it without weapons. It just threatened a little circular saw. But the circular saw wasn't intended to circular saw someone. It was intended to work on the glass, but they were like, oh, we use our new tool. And they were like, okay, we leave. Like, I.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You going to get so in trouble with this French. This French accent. I'm telling you now, you about to be.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everybody knows I be beefing with the French, so that' every time I go to France, it's up. Honestly, I think it's just Paris, but, like. Because I don't really have the other problems in other parts of France, but Paris, I. Parisian people and me do not mix. They're rude for no reason. And every time I'm there, I want to fight. Like, when I was leaving last time, I mowed into some teenagers. I won't lie. I was at the train on my way to Amsterdam.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How many crimes are you going to admit on this podcast?

[Lacey Mosley]

How many crimes? They should have got out the away. They. They were older teenagers. And I'm. I'm 51 in. I'm 59 on the Internet, y'. All.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

But.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I'm. But sometimes in real life, something happens to me on, like, a cold day where I'm 51 and I saw teenager height.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Every day is cold.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, no, no, no. When it's warm, I'm definitely 59 in bed. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm working on getting my Wikipedia changed. But, yo, I was at Essence once, the, you know, the Women in Black Women in Hollywood event. And I was on the carpet, and I was next to Janelle James. And why she gonna come up to me and be like, damn, you short, Lacey. I was like, yeah, yeah, You've known me for years.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Why would you say this? Cause it's the truth. Just jumped out of her. She couldn't help herself. Cause she put some heels on. She's statuesque. And I'm five two. I'm five two, so I'm aware of where I fit on all of this. So I don't even.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know. Whenever we stand next to each other, it's giving 5, 10. So it's giving 5.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

2 and 5 are dreaming. Unless you got them heels on, cuz you be wearing them. You be wearing them big heels. I don't wear them heels often, but.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, I can't wear them all the time cuz I'll be too tall, taller than everybody. You know what I'm saying? Anyways, so now that we've shared this truth. No, they. They were in the way and they should have moved and been polite. And I was so sick of like, just rude ass Parisian people that I was like, I'm just going to keep walking. Y' all kids gonna learn a lesson.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They were fine. Your letters. I love the Parisian people. I've never had a problem. When I've gone, I've gone one time. I know. She's had. She's had many trips to Paris. I've been once. And the one time I was there was a lovely. You guys were wonderful. Thank you very much.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. Yeah. You're a vet. Nicole Brown. Okay. Even have, like a French name. Well, I guess I do too. Lacey is French, but I still don't like them anyways, that's my breakup. Look, if you're French and you listen to the show, you know I love. Oui, oui, I love you.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay. I love you so much. Je m'. Appelle.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, no, no, wait. How you say I love you in French? I used to.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's amour. I know a moor. Or is the. Is it. Yeah. No. Yes. J. Okay, see, let me stop. I'm done. I'm done.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay? Y' all know that's. Look, I can only get a little bit of it because it's Latin. All right? So anyways, back. Back to these French people who I love the respect and honor and respect and honor. If they listen to the podcast. If they don't, it's up. I love more of them if you get them to listen. So they're like you said, they're telling everybody, well, we ain't got. We got 40% coverage over here. We got 25% coverage over here. We ain't got no cameras over there. It's like, yeah, you could have probably kept that as, like a little secret for y'. All.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Don't do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

And so even if the cameras did catch the thieves in action, the feeds probably funneled into a bank of video screens monitored by only one or a few staff members. They had one guy.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's Way too much information.

[Lacey Mosley]

One guy. The Louvre is huge. Got one guy.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's too much information. It's. They just really telling everything, and I don't like it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look at it like 50 leth screens.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's just asking. It's just asking for theft. It's asking for theft. They see, they might as well put a sign and say, come on in. Everything's free. Just come on in.

[Lacey Mosley]

Jacques was over there running back and forth, trying to see what was like, please, Francois. Why y' all do Francois like that? Pierre, Pierre, Pierre. And you know, Pierre ain't got 2020 vision, and he refuses to wear glass.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And Pierre tired. He tired and he's in. His feet hurt.

[Lacey Mosley]

He just over there sucking on a baguette.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

He watching all them cameras. He don't care. Got his crepe with his little Nutella in it. He all right with bananas.

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all got Pepe Le Pew back there. I know he taking hella naps.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

He is just relaxing and enjoying his day.

[Lacey Mosley]

He probably didn't even know the robbery was going on. Somebody woke him up.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They got the plexiglass over the lady. Can't nobody do no soup today. I'm good, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Even when the soup. They had enough time in that soup video to throw that tomato soup on Mona.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And then talk.

[Lacey Mosley]

And then talk.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They. They.

[Lacey Mosley]

They unzipped their jackets. They're like, this is our cause.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Nobody was tackled.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nobody got a full speech out.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They were chilling. Not a fan. Not a fan.

[Lacey Mosley]

Honestly, I'm kind of okay with that because, like, Mona, she was good. She had her plexiglass. And, like, did they really need to be tackled? Like, no. You can arrest them politely and take them away, but they're trying to get. Raise awareness. It says that's what they said. So that's what they said. But, you know, in America, we. I think we resolve. We get to tackling too quickly. You know, it depends.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Well, it depends on the melanin quotient.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, that's true.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You ain't got no. No melanin. They talk to you for hours.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you got the complexion for protection.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, but a drop of brown or black, you on out of there. They gonna get you to the.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they're gonna tackle you while you thinking about. We. We saw you thinking about.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

We saw you thinking about stealing something. Yep. I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

I just said, we saw that in your eye.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I told you, I've been watching them video quickly. They be taking down the black and the brown people. I said it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Although I will say I Did recently see a video on Tik Tok where there was this, like, suburban white mom. And you know, I love my white ladies, y'.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is not. I'm not. This is not about race in this way. I was just shocked that they actually treated her like a thief because she was like. They were like, man, we need to take. We need to detain you and take you to loss prevention. And she had her baby in her stroller. And she was like, no. They're like, no, ma', am, we're the police. Like, we're detaining you. And she was like, I know my rights. And the woman was like, what gets.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Me is when they're like, don't touch me. No, we gonna touch you, because we gonna put these arms behind you, and we gonna put these cuffs on. What are you doing?

[Lacey Mosley]

They were like, man, we don't wanna cuff you in front of your child. Like, can we. Can you just walk with us so that we don't have to make a scene? And she was like, I know my reds. Get away from me. And then she starts trying to zoom away with her stroller, trying to, like, run away, and they grab her, and.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

She'S, like.

[Lacey Mosley]

Hooting and hollering. And they were like, ma', am, we tried to give you the chance to do this civilly. Like, what are you talking about? It was so funny. Cause she. She was like, I'm not black, y'.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

What are y' all talking about?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

How dare you? I can still. Without a problem. I do it all the time.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, I did get a tan recently. I was just in the Bahamas. I'm not black. I'm not black. I'm not black. Oh, my goodness. But I did love how she. She really was like, no, please.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They're used to it being a no. They're used to their no being enough. And it's a new age. It's a new age.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love that for them. I don't want them to start getting attacked. Like, we get attacked. I just want us all to not get attacked. I just want to join you. I want to at with the police and be like, no, no. That's so cute. But no. Like, I just want to join you, girl. I. I don't want that to happen to you. I don't want you to get tackled. But anyways, so back to Lance. This is the woman, right? So this is the woman who was running the museum. Yeah, she. So she said she had offered her resignation to the Ministry of Culture after the theft, as she was willing to Take a fall for it. But the offer was declined. So she was like, look, look, I quit. It was my fault. I endangered the people visiting it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

She's trying to quit. Cause she already had the money. Then he got the truth. Allegedly.

[Lacey Mosley]

I just feel like in another space.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

In time, another space in time, she had something to do with it. And she was gonna get her cut and she didn't need that job no more. And she thought they was gonna fire. When they didn't fire her, she's like, for my honor, I will. And now she gotta stay working.

[Lacey Mosley]

Charlnel. I quit. I quit and lay on the sword.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

This is just my opinions. My opinions.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nobody asked you to do that. Okay, that's one of my opinions too. It's exactly. She was like, all right, well, I quit. That's society. And then. See, this accent is terrible. And I don't care. That's because I'm not gonna try.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You are committed. You are committed to offending as many Parisians as you can in this podcast.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just specifically Paris if you're in the south of France. If you're any other part. You good, you good. But so I'm of the mind of. Yes. She could have been like, oh, this is my bad. I endangered all these people. I let these precious historical jewels be stolen. I'm gonna bow out. I'm so sorry. There's another mind of mine. This, like, similar to yours. Just like, oh, this is so crazy, y', all that they broke in and got all that stuff. I'mma leave now. Bye. I don't know them. I don't know all four of them. Wait, y' all a.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And I didn't tell. And I didn't tell them how to get in. I didn't tell them how to get in and that nobody is on that side of them.

[Lacey Mosley]

I didn't put my worst security guards over there. The ones who I knew would fold real fast, you know, like that. Or my third option is, is that she does feel bad, but she really was like, I don't feel like fixing this. Like, y' all broke already, right?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's about to be rough for me going forward as we try to get through this. So I don't wanna be a part of it. It's just.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've been tired of this whack ass job. I've been looking for a reason to get up outta here.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's one of them three. I'm gonna tell you that. It's one of them three.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, Gotta be. So the French law prohibits institutions like the Louvre from ensuring its property security experts say museums are a soft target compared to other highly secured buildings like banks. Mus have to balance security with the freedom to see and engage with collections. You can actually go to a museum when the museum is open and see it right in front of you. Unlike the money in a bank vault. And I want to highlight that too because people were like, why even steal from the Louvre when like you could go to Cartier, you could go to like another jewelry store. Cartier has better security than the Louvre. And a lot of stores like that, like high end jewelry stores, like if you were trying to do a smash and grab at night, you wouldn't be able to because they take the jewelry off the floor when they close the store each day and lock it up in their vaults and stuff. So it's much more difficult. And like a lot of times, like security at high end jewelry stores, they might be packing some, you know, at least a little tasty taste, you know. Whereas like at the Louvre it's like, this is art and the only way for it to be appreciated is for it to be out on display.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I wonder, I wonder also if they did it during the day because they thought that if, if it had some Ocean's eleven type lasers and whatnot, they would only be on when no one else was there. So the best time to break in is when they're are no security things. You could trip.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right, exactly.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I agree.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because during the day they can't exactly have anything that you can trip up on because everybody's walking freely throughout space. And a lot of times the guards at the Louvre. And this is another lesson for you people in Paris. Cause baby, if y' all were a little nicer, this would be a problem. I saw some videos of people posting where it was like they were like making their little content or whatever and the guard was like, you have to go. You have to do like. And stepping in her video on purpose to ruin it. It was just stuff that was like kind of loser ish to like. This is a tourist attraction. You know, people are going to take videos. This is one place where I will say you can get your tiktoks off. You're not at the subway, you're not filming strangers, you're not harassing people on the street. You're at a tourist attraction. That's what tourism is. Take a picture. You came for the picture.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he was just being rude and annoying for no reason. She posted and she was like, damn, I guess he should have been paying More attention to who was stealing them jewels.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

My little TikTok video clacking.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, but I told you they'd be rude for no reason. I'm like y' all looking at the wrong thing. Trying to see who not recycling properly while y' just all getting robbed. That's what you get. So I love the French. Did I say that?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

So you ain't said it enough. Say it again.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love. I love the France.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't know, girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

That didn't do it.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

That didn't. That didn't bring me that.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't think that that didn't do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I wish I could see a space. I thought that was nice. I thought that was nice. So.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And you ain't got to see my face. You know what it look like, right? You know from that, you know what it look like.

[Lacey Mosley]

So smash and grab robberies at art museums are a hot new thing for thieves. They have started targeting cultural institutions not necessarily for their price. Paintings like the Mona Lisa, girl, they don't want you. I feel bad, girl, but Lisa was probably looking around like oh no, oh no. Oh no. Oh no.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh no. Oh no.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. Sorry, Lisa. They ain't what you asked. So like they don't want those because obviously that would be hard to resell and make money off of without getting caught. But for artifacts that can be dismantled, stripped or melted down for their expensive parts. Right, which is probably what has already happened to the French crown jewels. One French senator was pretty confident about what will happen to the crown jewels according to this video.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh, let's see.

[Lacey Mosley]

See the video. The jewelry will be cut up or botched and sold.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I don't think anything else. I mean we have to wait investigation. Maybe there will be a ransom. But I doubt seriously regarding the price of the stone and the high level.

[Lacey Mosley]

Of the price of the gold.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I doubt that these things will never come back.

[Lacey Mosley]

I am on her side. The jewelry will be shopped.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You don't even want nice things. You didn't just decided chosen violence and just gonna be violent for the whole episod. Just don't. Just don't even care.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just don't care. I love to see the French down bad. I don't know. Look, they can do better if they want to do better. Then we don't have to have this beef no more. Okay, I got beef with two countries. That's France and Brazil. They know what they did. But on the bright side, that means that the more famous your painting is, the safer it might be. From getting stolen because if you have a famous painting, they can't boost it like that. It's like, I can't come in with like the Hope that diamond to my local pawn shop. Like, hey, y' all seen the Titanic? Yeah, yeah, I got the Hope Diamond. No, I got it legally. Don't ask nobody in D.C. about it, but I got it legally. And do you want it? No, it's too famous. That's another diamond that's cursed. The Hope diamond is also.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It is. It is. Now, I didn't know the story behind why, but I did hear the, that it was.

[Lacey Mosley]

The Hope diamond has had many names, but I think the Hope diamond is cursed because originally it was also in India. India got all the bling and it was in a. Like a deity. Like the forehead of a female deity.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Would be dumb enough to do that.

[Lacey Mosley]

It got snatched and then it got tossed around between like, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, all the stands lot, all those countries in that area, and then eventually ended up in the hands of the Brits. And then they ended up selling it to an American who also owned the Wall Street Journal. And then she ended up like her stepmom or like her mother in law and her son in the same year. And then her daughter overdosed and then she went into poverty and had to sell her newspaper, which was the Wall Street Journal. And now the Hope diamond is in the Smithsonian, I believe, in D.C. it's also another curse joint.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all got to get away from these shiny rocks.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay? Yeah. These rocks, depending on how they were harvested, you don't want American dad tried.

[Lacey Mosley]

To tell y', all, you don't, you don't, you don't want that shiny rock. It's going to ruin your life. Former jewel thief Larry Lawton says the Louvre thieves had a solid plan and definitely had inside help at the museum. But they made one big mistake. That shows that they are amateurs.

[Larry Lawton]

Well, you know. Well, there's a couple of ways they can get rid of the jewelry. I will go into that in a second, but here's a mistake. They dropped one of these brooches. They only robbed, what, nine? I think it was nine brooches. You know, diamond like pieces. Well, you just dropped a, a ninth of your whole entire load right there. That's an amateur move. I never dropped a piece of jewelry ever. In 25 jewelry stores and $18 million. It's not going to happen. They also got the motorcycles caught right away. I mean, they're done there. What are you gonna find? They found a vest. They Found one of the construction vests already. So they made a couple of, I call them amateur mistakes, but they did get away with it a lot. And obviously. Now, how did he get rid of it?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

He couldn't be more new. He couldn't be more New York if he tried.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I love it. I love that he's a professional thief. He was like, I never dropped. I never dropped jewelry, and none of the 25 jewel. How many did I get convicted for? Wait, how many? I got 25, right? 25, yeah. In the 25 that I only did, I never dropped jewelry. I feel like he's one of those people who. He was. So if you hitting 25 live licks, the government at that point has to know that you're an asset. Like, private security companies have to be like, can you work with us and tell us how you will rob our places? Because at that point, you can't let that level of genius rot in prison. You gotta get that man out and you gotta get him on your side. Like, he's gotta be a fed at this point, because 25. 25. No, he's talented. That's. That's talent that we have to expect.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's a gift.

[Lacey Mosley]

So thank you, Larry Lawton, because you got the tea. So there's a main tour group. Let's get into this as we're wrapping this up. Dozens of travelers from the main State Music Theater were inside the Louvre, walking toward the Apollo Gallery on Sunday morning, when suddenly their tour group was forcefully pushed back. So this is the main State Music Theater, but let's go ahead and see what theater director Kurt Dale Clark had to say.

[Larry Lawton]

The staircase about to enter the room next door to the room where the robbery happened. So when they realized what was going on, the guards got very aggressive immediately. But then when we started seeing SWAT teams and military people, I was like, I think there's something more going on here. And so we all turned and hightailed it. We got very, very nervous about the whole thing. We did find everybody. We did get out the of there. But there was almost instant action by the. By the French police and the French military.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, I'm gonna say it wasn't instant because them men managed to ride down that cherry picker. And I saw a video of them riding down. It wasn't the quickest ride. It was slow.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It was an escalator, speed, rise, very slow ride. As soon as they got in that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cherry picker box, it was like.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, some nice elevator music as they're going down the little escal Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

It was a do, do, do, do, do. $100 Million worth of diamonds, man. I also love that they were like, oh, they trying to be nice to the fridge. Like, no, this looks. Security came super fast. No, baby, they did not. Also, very funny to me that the security now wants to get aggressive with these people who are just like, tourists.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Was like, they gotta look like they're doing something. Cause they wasn't doing what they were supposed to be doing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you're right. That's when you gotta start being.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, it's got to get. You're getting busy. You got to get busy when. When the eyes are on you.

[Lacey Mosley]

And they did evacuate people from the museum. And a lot of people thought initially that it was like, a bomb threat or that there was, like, some kind of violent thing happening because they weren't giving them any information, obviously. It's, like, embarrassing. And maybe they also don't want to tip off the robbers if they're still there. So people didn't know. And Kurt also said, we were actually really offended because we didn't understand the language, so we didn't know what was happening. But then we started seeing, you know, military with machine guns and SWAT teams, and we realized, oh, something pretty serious is going on. Not. Not Kurt being like, I was asking to speak to the manager. I was like, no, sir. We came from the main theater company. We will be getting inside here. I paid my hard American dollars.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Listen, they didn't came a long way. They want to see what they want to see, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And then he saw some guns, was like, oh, never mind. Okay, let's get to America.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm good. Never mind.

[Lacey Mosley]

Where y' all get them guns from? Francois? Like, I'm good. So there's other louvre heis. In 1998, the painting Le chemine de serie was stolen from the Louvre and has never been found, but did trigger a massive overhaul in museum security. Clearly not enough. And it's. I think it's Le chemin de sevriere now.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

See, that's. Now that I could see hanging in some rich person's house. And no one really knowing.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, I would never know. I could walk into, like, anybody's house and be like, oh, that's cute, or whatever. Yeah, you would know.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And they'd have a feather in their cap if they stole something very priceless.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, yes. And so French thefts going crazy. Last month, thieves broke into the Adrian Dubachet museum outside of Paris and stole porcelain works worth $11 million. In November 2024, seven items of great historic and heritage value were st. From the Cognac Museum in Paris. Four men with axes and baseball bats. Another four men.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

H. Same four. Same four men.

[Lacey Mosley]

I see. Okay. And we know these four men love a cutting tool. And now we using an axe.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

See.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they smashed the display cases in broad day. Like h. Some. Some of those 18th century artworks were recovered. They the next day jewelry worth. It doesn't sound like they recovered them. Four men though. The next day jewelry worth several million dollars was taken in an armed robbery at the Iron Museum in eastern France on Sept. And you know, they also robbed Kim K. Of her jewelry in France.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

First of all, get out my brain because I literally was. I swear to you, I swear to God, right as you said that I was thinking about. And also the Kim K. Caper was old people. This man were old. They would listen, I'm in my 50s, but they were like in their 50s or above doing this. So. Yeah, it feels like one of them died too. One of them already died. He left his mortal coil.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh wow. Before he had his day in court. Cuz I know Kimmy down there running up on him right now. And she chose to wear a lot of diamonds to testify. And people like, are you sure you want to do that? Yeah. And she was like, yeah, like the. Which I'm on her side for that. But you know, I guess the French really just love jewelry and robbing people of jewelry. I'm glad they left that lady with her life. You what I mean, like they was just like, get in the tub. We just gonna take your stuff. Kim can get more stuff. Them skims are skimming. Okay.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

She.

[Lacey Mosley]

She'll be fine. So I'm glad they left her alone on. And it seems like on all of these heists so far that I haven't heard about any injuries or any deaths.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

So, you know, they just coming to get the stuff.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they just come and get the stuff. They're like, hey, we're just here for your stuff. Do you mind? Yeah, actually you haul out fresh. So if you can move your car real quick so we can pack that up into the driveway. Cause yeah, we about to take your stuff. Yeah, but you good. Your stuff. Not your stuff is our. On September 16th, a little over a month before the Louvre heist, one lone criminal stole $700,000 worth of gold nuggets from Paris Natural history museum. Between 1 and 4am the burglar used an angle grinder and a blowtorch to force their way into the Riverside museum complex, which is a very Similar mo modus operandi, if you know the way you operate. It's very similar to the Natural History Museum's alarm and surveillance systems being disabled by a cypr attack in July. So a 24 year old Chinese woman was arrested for that theft in Barcelona on September 30th.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh, I'm sorry. You didn't get away.

[Lacey Mosley]

Girl, girl I bet you a man. I bet you a man turns you in. I know it's a man behind it. I can't prove it, but get that dokes meme out, okay? Because I can't prove it, but I know it. So we have an update on the heist here. Wrapping it up. French police arrest two Jew heist suspects amid manhunt. Now I'm gonna ask you, Yvette, do you think that these arrests. Before I share anymore, do you think these are, these are valid arrests? I feel like they felt like they were globally embarrassed, at least my opinion. And I'm like, are they just rounding up anybody?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I mean, I, I do think that they probably are valid arrests because it, this doesn't seem like a very high.

[Lacey Mosley]

It worked.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

But these don't seem like sophisticated thieves. Right. So I think that they probably, if they're dropping, they're sophisticated.

[Lacey Mosley]

They had a cherry picker.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

No, I don't, I don't know where.

[Lacey Mosley]

To get a cherry picker.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

No, I just think that it was a easy, it was an easy mark they figured out because I think it's inside drop. They figured out the best way to do it and how to do it. And you know, they're leaving, they dropping stuff. They didn't, didn't get dropped stuff. That's what I'm saying. So it just seems to me that I could imagine that somebody was lagging behind and if they are the age of the ones that rob Kim K. They think running fast. So I think that they could have gotten caught. I don't think that anything will be recovered. I think those. Everything's already been chopped up, melted down and it's already on its way to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wherever it's going, where it's going.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yeah, I don't think it'll get anything back.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you know what, to your point there, that even more validates that I feel like there is some big money person behind this who paid these four rubes to do this and then was like, hand over the stuff.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Here's.

[Lacey Mosley]

I gave you your payment on the way there. Here's your payment for handing over this house.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I hope they paid him enough. He or she paid him enough. Because, you know, if I get. If I did something dumb like this and I get caught, I'm singing. I'm. I'm sorry. I'mma tell you exactly who caught who hired me. And with, you know, if I'm going down, we all going down to the interrogation.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's like, and I'mma tell you everything.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm going tell you everything. I didn't already show that I have no honor. I'm a thief. I'm a thief. There's no honor in thieves. I'm going to tell everybody. Doggone. I might not tell you now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wait, wait, no.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I might not tell all my buddies, but I'm definitely telling on who hired me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, see, that might be more dangerous. Whoever. Who hired you might be with that pew, pew. You know what I mean? Like, I'm already in jail.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

He got to come into jail to poo pew me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but it's with me the prisoner's dilemma, which I learned about in philosophy. It's like, if one person snitches, everybody loses. If we all don't say nothing, they don't have nothing.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You know what? This is what I know about it. This is just me living long enough and watching enough Law and Order. Some. Somebody gonna snitch, and I hate it. Somebody gonna snitch. Now, listen, if I could be assured, if I was a criminal, which I'm not, but if I could be assured that everybody had my moral character as a criminal, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna steal this stuff, but I'm gonna respect all of us and make sure we get out safely. If everybody was like me, cool. But I haven't done enough group projects to know that everybody ain't like me. So when it comes down to it, I'm definitely getting in before somebody get in on me. But I ain't a criminal, so ain't none of this ever gonna apply to me. I ain't a criminal. I ain't got nobody to snitch on. But I'm saying if I did, if I did.

[Lacey Mosley]

You the st.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

I'm gonna sing like a canary. I'm singing first.

[Lacey Mosley]

So hold on, let me do my. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Me, me, me, me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them, them.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And again, probably I ain't gonna tell them my. All my. My fellow criminals that did the heist with me, but I'm gonna tell them who did. I'm. I'mma point the finger who sent me there.

[Lacey Mosley]

See, I have two minds, you know, the whole snitches get stitches. Very much like kind of like a gang culture thing. But that really does stem from the philosophy of the prisoner's dilemma. If no one tells, then we all are better off. But you're right.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And if no one tells, but somebody.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is going to tell.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

That's what people need to know. You can't. In this economy for sure. And you can't trust nobody. We have already learned how many people said they was gonna vote one way and went in that booth in November, did something else.

[Lacey Mosley]

You can't trust.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Trust nobody.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can't trust nobody. I was telling these Republican women, I was like, please cheat on your man in the booth. He not going to know.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

This is your one opportunity to cheat on your man. Faithful as they want to be. See, that's that they did. They did. No stitches. The stitches people, they. And they're not snitching on who they voted for. And they did it. So I'm saying, I'm like, don't you want rights, babe? Don't you want.

[Lacey Mosley]

You don't realize this is going to escalate into them taking away your credit card. They like. Like women didn't use that. Be able to own property or credit cards or anything that would give them freedom. Eventually this marriage you in is going to be slavery.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Like, do they. They rather be slave to somebody that they know and they, you know, that's what it is just the inside.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because they don't know everything about what happened with their grandparents. We got to get our grandparents to start really writing shit down. Like everybody, Granny. Get your granny to have a diary or get her to do one of those video diaries, one of those books where they ask the questions. Because once you find out that the marriages that you've been idolized, where they were like, oh, my parent, my grandparents were married for 70 years. And then you find out that papa had a family down the street and that he was whooping all her. And she couldn't leave cause she had no money.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And also cause grandma couldn't rent nothing herself. Couldn't have a credit card herself. And if she didn't stay, she wasn't gonna eat or have a roof over her head. There's a lot of reasons women stayed back in the day.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

A lot of reasons.

[Lacey Mosley]

And the only reason we got into the workforce was because of the wars.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Yep. People don't know that either. Or forget that too. So listen, look. But listen. It's rigged. Everything's rigged.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everything's rigged. Guys. We gotta stand together, cheat together when we have to okay, so one suspect was arrested at 10pm on Saturday after at Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport while trying to board a plane bound for Algeria. Police said. Okay, these thieves are dumb, baby, there's an Amtrak right there. They are not gonna check what's in your bag. They don't even have security scanners. Get on the Amtrak, take it to Amsterdam, fly out of Amsterdam to wherever you trying to go. That's a quick journey. I don't know why I have to tell you this, and I've never even robbed a loop. What are you doing? You went to the airport. You think? The first place they're not going to be scanning everything and everybody is the a port. That is the first place they're looking, bro. You would have been better just walk into the next country. What are you doing? Be for real.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

You were not saying. These are not. These are not sophisticated criminals.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're not serious people. So the second suspect was nabbed by police as he was about to travel to Mali in West Africa. An investigator with the Paris Brigade for Repression of Bandages. Okay, the special police unit super like spearheading this probe. They got a source with the French Interior Ministry directly connecting the investigation. So that's how they found him.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

And if y' all think that one or both of them are not singing like canaries right now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they definitely are. They're singing.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

They're singing. There's no honor in thieves. There's none.

[Lacey Mosley]

But also they don't know if they have any evidence yet. They did try to set the truck on fire. Maybe that burned some fake fingerprints. Like, who's to say these men have their face covered up if they don't have the jewels on them? Physically, I don't know who's to say.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay, the other person's gonna say, you're right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who's gonna say? One of them.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

One of them. I'm telling you, there is no honor in thieves if people realize that. They wouldn't be pulling heists with other people. If you wanna protect yourself while doing a heist or something crazy, you better do it by yourself.

[Lacey Mosley]

I wanna know how the Paris Brigade for Repression of Banditry even figured out was the guy. But yeah, they both got caught basically traveling. And I'm like, take a train, take a automobile. Keep riding that bird scooter to freedom.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay?

[Lacey Mosley]

Gas it, charge it up every now and then and just keep riding the bird scooter as far as it'll take you. But don't take a plane. Why does everybody think the airport is like the Greyhound station? Including Miss Girl. Day in the life. Y' all acting like Miss Day in the Life. Day in the life. After I do a jewel heist, I got upstairs. Get ready with me as I do a jewel heist. I got up this morning at 7am and the first thing I did was have an oat milk latte. Then I had a croissant and some fruit and some cheese for a little bit of protein. You're going to need your energy when you're running off with heavy jewels. Like, what are you doing? Oh, my goodness.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

It's so dumb.

[Lacey Mosley]

Final thoughts for you, Yvette, about these thieves?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Well, I will say again that I think it was an inside job. I will not say that Miss Lady, Miss Ma' Am was involved in it, but she wanted to just resign a little too fast for me, and we ain't never gonna see that you did. She was trying to get up out of there. She was like, I got a flight to catch. They about to get on the flight I'm supposed to be on with them. I got to get up out of here.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was like, you know what? Fire me, fire me, Fire me. And when they was like, nobody said that.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Exactly. So something about that just feel right to me. And I think that the two people that were caught are singing. And I bet you when they keep singing, they going to find out that Ms. Man was involved. That's my final thoughts.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no. This man better get herself on a plane while her security still work.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Final. My final. You know what?

[Lacey Mosley]

I lay on the sword. And they were like, nobody asked you to do that.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Nobody asked you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Was like, no, no, no. I will, though.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Cuff me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Take me away. They were like, we didn't ask you. We actually want you to fix the problem.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Fix it.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, no, I'm fired. No one fired you. No one fired you.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Now, I'm not. I'm not fired. Okay. Can I. Can I be fired?

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all really. Y' all really want me to stay? But I'm disgraced. I'm so disgraced.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Hello? No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Is this on? No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. Like, hello? Oh, yeah. I'm on the same page. It's either got to be an inside job or some billionaire has, like, all his creepy little toys that he wanted. Or they're already melted down and they're being sold right now, and hopefully I end up with a piece.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh, she wants to put it in the trunk with the cone.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look, I'm gonna give it back. As soon as Paramount hires me for the next job, which they will, then I'm gonna Give it back to them.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, I'm just buying it. It's not on loan. It's like. It's like an art piece that I'm. You know, I got a light on it. There's a light in my trunk. So it's. It's like a museum, you know, I didn't steal it. I got it on display.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

All right. Well, you're always a dream. This was so much fun.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Thanks.

[Lacey Mosley]

We always ask, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug?

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

Oh, man, I'd like to be found at the bank putting a million dollars in. But aside from that, I'm on Instagram and Facebook, allegedly on Facebook. Instagram updates my Facebook, but that's Yvette Nicole Brown. And then I'm like the real YNB or YMB pretty much everywhere else. But Instagram is probably the best place to find me. And I got TikTok, but I don't really put nothing up. So Instagram is it.

[Lacey Mosley]

And your podcast Squeezed. Yes.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

On wonderful podcast called Squeeze. It's a love letter to caregivers and, like, a warm hug to those of us in the trenches taking care of care of others. And it's available wherever you get your podcast, and it's in partnership with Lemonada Media. And I'm just so honored to get to talk about caregiving and two caregivers. And we're in our second season. You should check us out. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you really. You have such a warm spirit, and I love hugging you. Oh, my God. I love you too. Thank you so much for being here.

[Yvette Nicole Brown]

My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. And as always, y', all, you can find me as D I V A L A C I D bacy on all platforms and all. The first episodes of season one of Going Dutch are streaming now on Hulu, as well as the first season of my show, Scam Goddess on Hulu. Yes. And you can still buy my book wherever books are sold. And I think there are a few signs I might be wrong about this, guys, but go check it out on Potswag. There might be a few signed copies of my books left. I know they sold out instantly the first two times I did it. And the last time I was like, I'm gonna get a hand crimp. So these are the 300 that will exist in the world job, because, baby, I was right. And y' all love letters, and I love you, and so I love to do it. Yeah. And then check out our merch. And I think that's everything. I think so. But congregation, I want you to get out there and stay heisting. Yeah, that's sexy. Robbery. Robbery we can get behind. That's not behind it, but I'm. I'm beside it. Goddess Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming. Mazda Once you discover the Mazda CX5 Mazda, it doesn't take long to get it. With standard all wheel drive drive, a premium interior and advanced safety features, it's an SUV that gives you more at every turn. It will have you saying Mazda. The Mazda CX5.

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