Fraud Friday: Friday Night Frauds w/ Dave Schilling

Summary

Scam Goddess: Fraud Friday – "Friday Night Frauds" w/ Dave Schilling

Podcast: Scam Goddess
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Dave Schilling
Release Date: September 5, 2025

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Main Theme / Episode Overview

This uproarious episode of Scam Goddess delves into the wild true story of Bishop Sycamore—the infamous “fake” high school football team that scammed its way onto ESPN. Host Laci Mosley is joined by comedian and podcaster Dave Schilling for a comedic, insightful breakdown of the scandal’s key players, the mechanics of this legendary sports grift, plus a tangent or two about college, guilt-tipping bartenders, and the art of scamming as a life skill.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Dave’s Relationship With Scams – Kicking Off the Conversation

[04:03]

• Laci asks Dave about personal scam experiences.
• Dave: “I despise liars. Of course. I hate myself because I’m constantly lying to people because I live in Hollywood.”
• They roast the “Who’s Who in American High School” directory—a classic pay-to-be-honored scam.
• Dave: “Of course, it was B.S. Everybody got to be in there. … I was one of the laziest people in my high school.”
• Laci riffs on the honor being meaningless if you have to pay (“Get your checkbook out, bitch.”).

The College Scam & Bribing for Table Service

[06:24]

• Changes in the college admissions hustle: Laci notes college is now desperate to admit anyone post-pandemic.
• Tangent about the perils of sex on twin beds in college housing.
• Laci: “You show up based off vibes…when my show up, my show up!”
• Laci shares her “scam” of bribing hosts at restaurants—except when it backfires.

Guilt-Tipping at Bars as a Service Industry Scam

[09:38]

• Dave shares a story: bartender purposely guilt-trips him to extract a tip.
• Laci counters with her own aggressive/bully tactics as a former bartender.
• Both riff on escalating fake sob stories to increase tips — “That was the bank, they taking the house for real this time!”
• Dave, joking: “Gotta put my dog down. Can’t afford his meds. … Anyway, our specials…”
• The pair glorify these little hustles as low-level but effective social cons.

What’s Hot in Fraud: Writing Off Halloween Candy

[16:37]

• Weekly segment on trending scams: A listener tip about “writing off” candy as a business expense if you slap your business sticker on it.
• Laci: Wonders if you can do this even if you don’t own a small business.
• Dave: “No, I think you kind of have to be incorporated.”
• Dialogue goes off the rails as they envision a world where kids must complete chores or riddles for treats.

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Main Segment: Historic Hoodwinks — The Bishop Sycamore Football Scam

The Scam’s Summary

[22:05 – 71:33]

The Setup

• Bishop Sycamore, a “school” nobody had heard of, played IMG Academy on ESPN, got demolished, and was quickly revealed as a likely fake.
• Dave: “Some of them not in high school, not high school age…just like dudes who wanted to get to the NFL…”
• Laci fantasizes: “What if they had been GOOD? …like, now they all play for the NFL!”

Mechanics of the Scam

• School invented out of nothing; few players, little equipment, barely any coaching staff, almost no funding.
• Only enough players to fill the field—many played both offense and defense with inadequate rest.
• Team claimed to have “Division 1” prospects; none of this could be verified.
• ESPN, desperate to find a willing opponent for unbeatable IMG, gave them a national TV deal.
• Laci: “How your school gonna be an online school, but ain’t no information about it online? That’s where y’all live?”

The Televised Disaster

• Announcers slowly realize live on air that Bishop Sycamore may not be legit.
• [41:05] ESPN Announcer: “Bishop Sycamore told us they had a number of Division 1 prospects…to be frank, a lot of that we could not verify.”
• Headsets, “coaches” faking expertise, confusion on the field, mismatched jerseys and equipment.
• Dave: “Who the fuck is watching high school football on ESPN7?”

The Collapse

• Bishop Sycamore played games just two days apart, violating safety standards. Multiple injuries.
• Laci and Dave lampoon the lack of facilities—maybe practicing in parking lots, sharing helmets.
• “Coaches” include the mother of a player after most staff quit.
• Many athletes: over-age, some with children of their own, others with arrest warrants too numerous to allow team flights.
• No food provided, some players resorted to stealing from supermarkets.
• School only offered a single Bible class (and “vibes”).

The Fallout & Legacy

• Bishop Sycamore was quickly banned; Ohio launched an official investigation.
• Coach Johnson left with $300,000 in unpaid bills; proceeds went to headsets, not student needs.
• Laci: “Was he lying? He said you’ll play at OSU facilities…he didn’t say WHICH side of the street.”
• Michael Strahan’s production company and Kevin Hart’s company both develop TV/film adaptation plans.
• Laci and Dave, in typical Scam Goddess fashion, actually champion the stylistic audacity:
  Laci: “Points for style! Points for costumes, wardrobe. …Love the headsets.”
• Dave: “He’s gotta go in some sort of hall of fame for greatest, most ridiculous scams.”

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Scammer of the Week: NFL Player Healthcare Fraud

[71:33 – 75:34]

• Laci and Dave recap the latest on a fraudulent ring of former NFL players who stole millions from the league’s health care reimbursement plan.
• Players filed for expensive, unnecessary equipment: “ultrasound machines designed for women’s health” among other bizarre items.
• Dave: “Hey girl, you wanna come over…do an ultrasound?”
• Laci: “Sometimes I just be feeling like doing an MRI, and you know the hospital is long wait.”
• Ends with riffs on at-home open heart surgery tutorials: “Sometimes you wake up and you’re like, God, I wish I could just do an MRI tonight…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [04:13] Dave: “I despise liars. Of course. I hate myself because I’m constantly lying to people because I live in Hollywood.”
• [06:54] Laci: “Now…college was a scam…colleges are like, ‘We’ll suck your d*ck.’ Please, please come!”
• [10:53] Dave (on guilt-tipping): “The bartender says to the bar back, ‘Not getting a lot of tips tonight.’ …I gave her like $4…she knew I had cash.”
• [23:53] Dave (on Bishop Sycamore): “There was a scam that was so perfect. But the one flaw is that they had to be on TV. … And the problem is, they gotta play the fucking games and they stink.”
• [35:05] Laci: “I love when white people—no shame white people out there—but there’s a certain language white people use instead of being direct and it is exhausting.”
• [43:08] Dave: “ESPN chose this team based on vibes and that’s fine…vibes are currency.”
• [54:21] Laci (on older players being mistaken for teens): “That’s when the kind of, like, blackness of it all comes in. …They all look grown to me once they turn 11.”
• [62:16] Dave (on five fights a practice): “If you don’t feed people, you make them play football in an open field…and make them all live together…yeah, they’re gonna fight.”
• [64:14] Laci: “Bishop Sycamore was a school where they educate you on how to scam, and that is a valuable skill. … You can definitely make crime a career and a passion.”
• [69:01] Dave: “You’re eating vibes for dinner tonight, guys.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:03 – Dave’s history with scams (Who’s Who in American High School).
• 09:38 – Guilt-inducing tip tactics at bars.
• 16:37 – What’s Hot in Fraud: the Halloween candy business write-off hustle.
• 22:05 – "Historic Hoodwinks": The Bishop Sycamore saga begins.
• 37:26 – The ESPN game, breakdown, and aftermath (score: 58–0).
• 41:05 – Viral ESPN announcer moment realizing the scam.
• 46:24 – Dangerous playing conditions, mismatched helmets, student safety.
• 54:03 – Student-athletes’ legal problems, living conditions, and hunger strikes.
• 62:16 – Team fights and inner collapse.
• 64:14 – Laci reframes the scam as “vocational training in con artistry.”
• 71:33 – Scammer of the Week: NFL players’ healthcare fraud.

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Tone, Style, and Notable Dynamics

• Laci and Dave maintain a hilarious, irreverent tone even as they dissect serious fraud and real-life consequences.
• There’s a running riff on “vibes” as both a lifestyle and scam currency.
• They often spin off on tangents—always circling back to how scam artistry permeates everything (from college admissions to restuarant tips to football grifts).
• Occasional deeper points about systemic inequities, racial bias, and the dark consequences for the real victims of cons.

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For Visuals & Further Engagement

• Laci plugs Scam Goddess’s Instagram for photos and videos relating to Bishop Sycamore.
• Listeners are invited to snitch on retired scams via [e-mail].

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Final Thoughts

• Bishop Sycamore stands in Scam Goddess lore as a con both disgraceful and, in execution, audacious—worthy of a docu-series.
• The episode is a masterclass in blending comedic improvisation with incisive social commentary on cons and frauds of all sizes.

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As Laci Mosley says:
“Stay schemin’, congregation.”

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

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Goddess. What is popping, Congregation?

It's your girl, Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. And welcome back to another installment of the podcast, all about robbery and fraud. Those who pract. What if I just talk like I was from NPR now and I just.

[Dave Schilling]

Like did a song?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sensual Whisper? Do you like that?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I like it. I think you should do that more often.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're already getting a little preview of.

Who'S in the building.

Today we have what? I'm very. What? I'm very excited. Oh, God, that was nasty sounding. I'm sorry.

[Dave Schilling]

I know. I'm glad you can't see me from the waist down. This is disgusting.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So today we have comedian, writer and podcaster Dave Schilling. He co hosts the Galaxy Brains podcast with Jonah Ray, where they analyze the movies and TV shows that you cannot stop obsessing over. Congregation, give a warm round of applause from your car or bathtub or wherever.

You Are for Dave Schilling.

What's up, Dave? Dave, why you looking like this? It's like, I can just see, like, your computer monitor or something. Like, the camera's like, what am I gonna put my.

[Dave Schilling]

I have a thing, like, a black thing that covers up my microphone so that it doesn't echo. Cause I have, like, hardwood floors in my apartment. So. This was purchased for me by Vox, who produces my podcast. They're like, you gotta have this thing. So your podcast doesn't sound like shit, and so I have to put it here. I don't know where to put my camera. I want you to be able to see what I'm wearing today.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love this. I wish I could just see. Dave is, like, literally talking into, like, what looks like a corner. Like, it looks like he's, like, facing the corner and having a full conversation with somebody else. I'm like, dave, hello. Hello.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, Jim, how are you doing? I'm just doing a podcast. It's fine. No worries.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we could have at least you could pretend like I'm talking to you. You know, I love this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I can. I can. I'm catching half of your face. It's cute.

[Dave Schilling]

It's the best half. You got the best half of me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You did it on your good side. Dave, I have to ask you, like, what? Like, do you have any relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Do you participate in them? What show? What's your vibe?

[Dave Schilling]

That's a good question. I despise liars. Of course. I hate myself because I'm constantly lying to people because I live in Hollywood.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But, yeah, I think, Dave, that don't add up. How you just gonna be like, yeah, I've been lying to people all the time. You know how it is when you live in Fort Worth, Everybody lies everywhere.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. It doesn't matter where you live, what profession you're in.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know how you live in Macon, Georgia? You got a lot of everybody. It's not my fault. It's the city.

[Dave Schilling]

What size pants do you wear? Oh, I'm a 34. It's like, three sizes smaller than what you actually wear. Yes. In terms of scams and scamming, I think the first time I really felt scammed is when my parents decided to pay for who's who in American High School. So you remember this? You heard about this thing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What's that?

[Dave Schilling]

It was like, they come to your school and they would say, hey, we have this, like, this book, and it's a list of all the best students in high schools across America. And if you want to be a huge success, you need to pay us 49.95. We'll put your name in the book, and then we'll send you the book. And recruiters from colleges and employers all look at this thing and they'll know that you are who's who in American high school. And of course, it was B.S. everybody got to be in there. It wasn't like, oh, I can't believe I did so well in school. I was a horrible student. I was one of the laziest people in my high school.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Look, they said, who's who? They didn't say who was smart, who was good. And you're very smart. But say, like, who's got good grades? They said, who's who? Who is is here who?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I think this company knew that I was gonna be a huge success and I was gonna have my own podcast. And then they're like, we gotta get this dude in this book. And that's how it happened. So I felt like once I realized later on that it was a scam, I was. I felt bad for my parents, who were like, I'm so proud of my little boy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He's so. I love this for your parents. They were like, already ready to scam. They're like, yeah, let's put em in this book. Like, how is it an honor if I gotta pay? They were like, yeah, would you like, we think smart and talented. Would you like to be honored by being in this book? All right. Get your checkbook out, bitch.

[Dave Schilling]

Hey, you're smart. Do you want a bill?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do you have to pay?

[Dave Schilling]

It's like, what the fuck is this? Get out of here.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I love that. I love a little con like that. It's so funny because I feel like the dynamic for college used to be so different. So it used to be, like, recruiters and people, like, coming to the school and being like, come to our school. Then for a while, it got really competitive. Like, at least for me as a millennial, where we were, like, out here trying to be in everybody's club and everybody's organization, trying to rack up these, you know, these accomplishments to get into these schools. And now, because of COVID and everybody realizing college was a scam, like, my sister's applying for college right now, and I feel like the colleges are like, we'll suck your dick.

[Dave Schilling]

Let's please come.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Please, please come, please, please. It's me, it's me. College. What's up? What's up? What's good, sis? You already in? Don't. You don't even need to send us nothing. Just show up, pull up twice a.

[Dave Schilling]

Day, we'll give you free food, a place to stay and a bed to have sex on. That's all you need, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Come on, little kids, a twin size bed. Have you ever fucked in a twin size bed?

[Dave Schilling]

No. Of course. You out of your mind?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Come to college, that's what place to have sex.

[Dave Schilling]

Because they no one can run away. You can't just be like, I give up. No, you got to finish the job. You got to do the thing. You're stuck on. The twin siiz bed. It's awesome.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now the twi size bed is like, that's a rite of passage. Like when your back is good enough that you can have sex on the tiniest bed possible.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I don't know how we pulled it off back then.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Would you like to have sex on a folding table?

[Dave Schilling]

College closets, folding tables, coffee tables, various.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They're like, this is one step up from your car where you used to do it. Much more luxurious.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. Oh boy. I don't want to think about that anymore.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, if you had a bathroom, if you had a queen size bed at college, like you was really living that life because we all had to sleep on them. The folding tables.

[Dave Schilling]

Now I didn't realize at the time that college was a scam. So I'm glad you're bringing this up because I didn't learn anything. Did you learn anything in college?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh yeah, I learned a fuck ton. Now was any of it like really like what I plan to be learning? No, absolutely not. But it's all helping in life. It helped me scam those psych classes. You can learn a lot about people and natural behavior and people's avoidance of conflict and how to get what you want. I love bribing people at restaurants. That's like, I'll give a host a handshake in a minute if I can get a table faster this weekend. Actually though, it went left, I gave. Well, it wasn't my money, but I was going on a date and we were 45 minutes late. And it was my fault. It was not so bad.

[Dave Schilling]

Of course it was. You look like a late person.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Damn.

[Dave Schilling]

I'm just saying some people look like they're late. My mother.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Some people look like they're late.

[Dave Schilling]

Like every time I see 3 year old black woman. Late all the time. Never not late.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm late all the time. It is A condition. Do not shame me. Okay. You know, time is a construct. I show up based off vibes. You know what I mean? Like when my show.

[Dave Schilling]

That's what we said. We had this conversation on Twitter. Yeah, you show up when the vibe is right, when it's been percolating and the flowers started to bloom a little bit.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You gotta let your third eye wake up, get the crust out of that. You know what I mean?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like I'm operating on a vibrational plane. You know what Elon Musk has said? No, I really have nowhere to go with that. It's an insane explanation, but I'm just chronically tar, Dan. I'm proud of it. I don't even say, sorry that I'm late anymore. I just say thank you for your patience.

[Dave Schilling]

The psychological manipulation part that you brought up is interesting to me because I realized that I was scammed on Halloween.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Fresh.

[Dave Schilling]

So I went to play pinball at a bar by myself on Halloween. Because I'm that kind of fucking nerd.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Dave. What?

[Dave Schilling]

No, it's fine. It's fine. I'm a parent. I didn't need to go out taking chances on Halloween.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Where'd you go, Dave and Busters? Or where's the pinball machine? David, Busters doesn't have pinball. I don't know what they got in there.

[Dave Schilling]

They got like those VR machines that you ride around in fucking Fast and Furious cars or something. No, pinball. There's a place in Eagle Rock called Waltz, and they have like, old pinball machines. So I go and I break a 20 to get beer and then get quarters and stuff. And as I'm taking my change, the bartender says to the bar, back, not getting a lot of tips tonight. I was like, oh, shit. Well, I guess I better tip. So I gave her, like $4 because I knew that she was trying to guilt trip me or I didn't know she was trying to guilt trip me. I just felt guilty. And then the next day, today, I was like, oh, she didn't. She was doing that specifically, so I heard her. Because she knew I had cash.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yup.

[Dave Schilling]

I got played.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You did. And I love that for her. I don't know why I never thought of that. I think because when I was a bartender, I was very aggressive and we would be like, if you didn't t. We like, hey, y', all, he didn't tip, so don't give him no more drinks. Like, we would just be mean as to everybody and bully them into buying, like, at least $40 worth of stuff. So that we could auto grue it for $8, which is definitely illegal. But we did it for so long, I don't know. They told us that was what we did. And I was like, okay, we stealing. We doing crime crimes up in here. Love it. Love that for me. But that's so funny. I never thought about doing that. Y', all, if you're in the service industry, if you're a bartender, I feel like. Yeah, you got to, like, just shout out sometimes like, damn it, I'm poor.

[Dave Schilling]

My car payment is next week, and it's $300. Can you help a brother out? Yeah, why not? Why not? I mean, if you find a guy who looks like me, who wears glasses, who's kind of, like, too nice, just assume that they're going to be guilty about whether or not you have money. So just throw it out there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just try randomly get on your phone, be like, damn it, that was the bank. They taking the house for real this time. Sir, what can I get.

[Dave Schilling]

Gotta put my dog down. Can't afford his meds. Oh, hey, so our specials are hash browns with gravy. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's mean.

[Dave Schilling]

That's just mean stuff. Yeah, no, we can't afford.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We can't afford to. We can't afford to euthanize him.

[Dave Schilling]

So we're just a poor master. We're just gonna throw him off a.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Bridge, let him swim for him, smother him until crafts.

[Dave Schilling]

Like, I got this bill of.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Shut up, shut up, shut up. This has hurting me more than it hurts you.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, poor Fido.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So anyway, the specials, you gotta roll.

[Dave Schilling]

Right back into the menu. You gotta roll right back into, like. All right, so we've got fettuccine Alfredo. We got steak, whatever.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Fuck it, right? I'm gonna cry.

[Dave Schilling]

I'm just waiting for this shift to be over.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You start asking the guest questions. Do y' all know how much a kidney would go for it?

[Dave Schilling]

How many times are you allowed to give blood in a month?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

How much blood? Like, before you, like, have blood?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, if I start passing out or anything, like, what is the trade off here? What am I losing out on?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You start faking, like, you faint when you go to tables. Oh, sorry, guys. Had to give away a lot of blood. Times are very hard. Anyway, we have a tableside Caesar salad. That's to die for.

[Dave Schilling]

Hey, are you gonna finish that apple juice?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm feeling a little weak.

[Dave Schilling]

Let's get a sip on that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's me hard, bro. I really with. I. With that bartender. She's. She's doing the right thing. I hope she does that all night long. I hope that bartender just knows that the bar back knows that that's the bit that they do.

[Dave Schilling]

And now I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna be the mark. And she's like, I can get this guy again. She thought I was cute and so I'm gonna manipulate his sick little soft brain.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I love that for her. I love.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, me too. No, I'm happy. I like to be a simp. That is my. That's where I belong. This is.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I like to be a simp.

[Dave Schilling]

I mean, I hope you do. You better scams.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Dave Schilling]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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Let'S get into our first segment here. What's hot and fraud. This is where we warn the listeners about a popping scam and the zeitgeist are more often than not. What do we do? We get your letters, guys, as always, snitch on your friends, your family, yourself. Scam got his pod gmail dot com.

Just make sure the scam is retired.

Because we don't want to. What?

Yes.

Up your bag. Amen. Dave. I need a fake name for this person. We don't care about gender.

[Dave Schilling]

Let's see. Samuel Beavers. Samuel T. Beavers.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sam Beavers. Porn name?

[Dave Schilling]

No.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sam Beavers.

[Dave Schilling]

I don't watch pornography.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow. The way you said that.

[Dave Schilling]

No, I don't watch pornography.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I look, you wanted to believe you. You were like, no, I don't watch pornography.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, come on. Come on. No, I would never do such a thing. Oh, no.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I imagine.

[Dave Schilling]

I imagine my glasses are starting to fog up again.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this. So Sam Beavers.

[Dave Schilling]

Sorry, I sold you down the river with that one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You really did. I you up right? He was like booty hole. That's what the name is. What? Sam Beavers. All right, so Sam Beaver says. Hopefully y' all are listening to this out loud. No, we always cursing on here. Your kids will be fine.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, if you're playing this over the loudspeaker at a Walmart, that's on you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I love that for me.

[Dave Schilling]

So please do get those numbers up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this is a small business owner. Like anytime we're giving out something, if it's candy for Halloween or gifts for Christmas, if you stick one of your business labels on it and an address or a phone number, it's a way to promote the business. Regardless. Regardless of whom you know you're giving it to. Mom, dad, brother, who gives a fuck? All right, Sam. So booger kids knocking on the door. Why are you calling these kids booger kids?

[Dave Schilling]

What's a booger kid?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm gonna gu like, because they be having boogers and they be. I don't know.

[Dave Schilling]

I mean some kids are out there eating boogers. My kid is 4. He doesn't eat boogers. He doesn't put weird stuff in his mouth. So maybe like a booger kid is like one of those gross kids who, like, does stuff that nobody wants to talk to.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's always something on their face.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, Something like some sort of like, goo or like, just like food or like markers, faces.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, Come on, tell them booger kids knocking on the door to get some candy. Put a sticker on it. When you do, it can be written off as a tax writer. Off for $25 or less each. Damn.

[Dave Schilling]

What?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. This is my thing is everything cost 25. If you have a small business, big business, they write off millions. I'm writing off pennies, pure pennies. It start to sound like you mad at the big business, which you should be. So. Okay, I like this. Like, so if you just stick, like. Okay, what if you don't have a small business, though? Can you buy? Can you. Can everyone just write off like, Halloween candy? Can we write off Christmas presents to our friend, our family?

[Dave Schilling]

No, I think you kind of have to be incorporated. You probably are though, right? Couldn't you do it?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I am.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You got a corrective? Yeah, I have an S Corp. So if you have an S Corp, guys, you know, if you're giving away anything for free, maybe start throwing your business name on there. You know what I mean? Make it a business transaction.

[Dave Schilling]

Don't forget, we gave you this Snickers bar, young man. Get out of here.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm gonna make everybody sign up for a mailing list like all the kids. Your mama got you an email yet, baby? Yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

You wanna get candy? I'm gonna need your vitals. I need your details. Sign up right here for your Snickers bar.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. I feel like every kid probably has an email now after, you know, zoom school from the pandemic. So, yeah, I'm gonna get all of them to sign up for my comedy mailing list.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I'm sure the parents are gonna be like, yes, I'm going to give out my child's email address to some weird lady.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do you want the candy or what?

[Dave Schilling]

Yes, if you want the candy, bitch, make your choice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, you come into my M. Pop show, no candy.

[Dave Schilling]

It's a bringer at the Comedy Store. I need to get 20 people to show up. So I bought these candy bars.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So get the. Okay, listen, that's the trade off. What if we all just started doing that? Like, we really started making kids work for candy on Halloween. Like, yeah, you can get this candy, but first, you gotta answer my riddles. Three. Okay.

[Dave Schilling]

Were you, like, a troll under a bridge?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

[Dave Schilling]

That's right. Yeah. You gotta learn to earn it. This is America.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Everyone starts skipping my house. Like, don't go over there.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, that's the lady that gives you chores. If you want candy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, if you want candy, you gonna come in here and clean this toilet.

[Dave Schilling]

Sweep this porch, motherfucker. Do it now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you want candy is to rake them leaves. They're not gonna rake themselves.

[Dave Schilling]

Start throwing Smarties at them. Yeah, eat that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? But she's throwing them individually out of the river.

[Dave Schilling]

You better catch it with your mouth.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The worst Halloween house ever. I love this. I love this. For me. No. Yeah, yeah. Y' all get them kids working, okay? This whole free candy, you just walk around and people give you things. That's not America. Not what America's about. You. You get you a squeegee. I'd be like, all right, y' all wash one window each, and then y' all can.

[Dave Schilling]

Each one gets a window. I got five windows.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Then you can have Twix. Okay, do you, like left or right? Cause you can't have both.

[Dave Schilling]

I just realized the car has six windows. I don't know if I said five. You got. I got five windows. The side window got blown out. Yeah, somebody threw a baseball bat at it. Whatever.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, my goodness.

It's time for historic hoodwinks. I am going to regale Dave with.

The Famous Con Caper Group of Criminals squad, and we're gonna see if we like them or we hate them. And I think. I think I'm gonna like what we're talking about today, you guys, as always, tagging me, emailing me, sending a carrier pigeon about a scam that you just.

Have to hear about.

And I love this one so much. Shout out to the congregation.

So we're talking about Bishop Sycamore.

And if you don't know what Bishop Sycamore is. Oh, honey, just buckle up. So at the beginning of 2021 High school football season, a previously unknown school called Bishop Sycamore rose to infamy when they lost to a top high school football team, IMG Academy, in a complete shutdown. It was discovered during the ESPN televised game that Bishop Sycamore was not only dangerously mismatched, but actually might have been a fake high school that lied to espn.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, this was my favorite story of the year by far. These guys were. Some of them not in high school, not high school age, not registered for anything. They're just like dudes who wanted to get to the NFL or get into a college or something somewhere. Joe Juco, like junior college. Yeah, yeah, they got destroyed. But it's, it's funny to a point.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I wish they hadn't lost. I wish they hadn't lost.

[Dave Schilling]

How are they going to win? Was this fucking Rudy? They're going to win.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I wish that they were so good that it was like now they all play for the in or the NFL. Like I wish that they had been good. That's the only thing that makes me mad about this game is like how y' all going to make a whole. First of all, y' all not even having no grade requirements. You're not in high school. So y' all gonna make a whole football team and not get the best players.

[Dave Schilling]

Okay, here's why you can't get the best players because this school was invented out of nothing. There are no scouts, they could barely afford equipment. They're like, it would cost too much to build like real dormitories. So they just had people like sleeping on cots and on the floor and stuff. This was a scam that was so perfect. But the one flaw is that they had to be on tv. The scam is we have the fake high school. We play the best high schools in games. We get paid for that. We get paid to license our footage, like whatever, like be in the games. And then ESPN buys the rights to the TV package and you just get money hand over fist. And the problem is they got to play the fucking games and they stink. And we're going to find out that they're bad. Someone might get seriously injured. Thank God nobody did. But like they didn't even have a quarterback at one point because they only had one. Like it was a mess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

See, you know what I do love about Bishop Sycamore though is these probably were the guys who were out selling candy in front of Walmart who said they were selling Snickers so that they could buy jerseys. This is the first time in history that the kids who were selling the candy at actually bought some jerseys.

[Dave Schilling]

A 21 year old man selling candy out in front of the the Ralph's or the Walgreens or something cuz he.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Had to get jerseys. I have so many questions. So in 2021, Ohio School Bishop Sycamore entered the high school football season with the fourth toughest schedule in the nation. Their roster was only 30 to 35 players. Big A fraction of the opponents rosters. Which meant that their toughest schedule, the players Were under a lot of pressure, so you can't really rest a lot of your players. If you need a lot of your players to play, it means, like, they can't really ride the bench at any point because they need it. The fact that you said that they didn't have a quarterback at one point, I just imagine them hanging around the high school like, hey, like Matthew McConaughey from that movie. All right, all right. Hey.

[Dave Schilling]

I get older and they say the.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Same age, you want to come play football?

[Dave Schilling]

Come on, get over here. I like how your butt looks in those pants. The problem is they had to, because like you said, they only had 32 players. And usually you have, like 52 players on a football team. They had guys playing both sides. You're not supposed to do that. You're not supposed to play defense and offense.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You were supposed to get some time off. They said, all right, we all office. Y' all stay. No, y'. All. Tim, John, you stay.

[Dave Schilling]

Just courts of Gatorade on him and get it back out there. Like what you can't do.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I left tackle.

[Dave Schilling]

The left tackle is also the wide receiver.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right left tackle is the wide receiver.

[Dave Schilling]

And you probably know football, too, Lacey, right? You're from Texas. Like, that's Friday Night Lights country.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You can't do that shit. Hell no. I played football in Miami. I only lived there for a year, but they had a girls football team, so I was a wide receiver and, like, learn my little routes and stuff. But it was not for me. But I did have fun doing it. But it's. That's so wild to me that they were not. How you gonna be office and defense, like, how you.

[Dave Schilling]

Well, because you're running out of people to believe in the scam. Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. This is a Mrs. Doubtfire type scam.

[Dave Schilling]

They should have done it multi level marketing style, like Lularoe. Like, okay, if you want to be a part of this team, you just recruit five other dudes to play on the team with you. You got to recruit a whole offensive line. If you want to play, go down.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

To the park and see who you can find. Okay. Because Kevin can't keep being the quarterback and the running back. He's throwing to himself. He's throwing to himself. They'd be like, the quarterback's running with it. No, he's throwing it and then he's catching it as well.

[Dave Schilling]

And then he's just been laid out by a horrible tackle. Just disgusting, evil tackle. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And this is just so ridiculous to me. I'm also. I have A question, I wonder if we'll get the answer to this. But like, what happens when they play at home? Like where's home? When the high school bus pulls up and they just at somebody backyard?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, they're so home stadium. They're just traveling. Because the point is, the reason why they play the fourth toughest schedule in high schools is because the point is to play the big schools, the schools people want to see on tv. And then ESPN pays whatever this company was for the package for the, for the rights to show these broadcasts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So, so they had to get the bag. So they had to play like these. So they over here playing like Friday.

[Dave Schilling]

Night Lights Academy is like fucking legit. Like these guys are definitely all going to play in college at some point. So you're playing, you know, the, basically the Raiders or something. These guys are going to tear you up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So the game was aired on ESPN and the at the finale of the 2021 ESPN High School kickoff Series featuring prominent teams, nationally ranked prospects and players that have committed to playing Division 1 football. So because of IMG's reputation of like beating ass, the company that books these schools for ESPN Prep, Gridiron Logistics, they couldn't find one school out of 200 that were willing to play against them, except for Bishop Sycamore. So everybody, prep stuff kept calling people like, hey, y', all, y' all want to play this game? Y' all gonna get paid. Y' all gonna be playing against img. Hello? Hello?

[Dave Schilling]

I am not gonna pick up the phone next time if you keep calling me. Stop doing that. I don't want to pick up.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Everybody was like, I am not gonna get my ass whooped. Bye. No, we not coming. No. Hey, hey. It's prep grabb.

[Dave Schilling]

That's why it's a perfect grift. It's the perfect grift because people, teams are scared to play these guys who are like legit top prospects. So you just get a bunch of patsies to get waylaid by these studs. Like you're getting, you're getting millions and millions of dollars in TV rights. It's stupid, it's insane. But answer me this question. Let me ask you a question. Who the fuck is watching high school football on ESPN7? What is that about? What are you doing? How much do you like football if you're watching 17 Year Old Boys playing football?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, the thing is, and I actually resonate with this, is that there's some people who like, you know, when a new artist comes out or new music or like when Drake first dropped like, so far gone and all that shit. Like, some people like to be. Like, I saw them win. Like, I knew they were gonna be a star. Like, I came. I. You know, I knew. Like, I remember watching. So in the winter, like, during. Like, Christmas and like that. That kind of period in Texas, there's these really famous basketball tournaments that are all high school players.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So that's where I saw.

Ooh, what's his face?

He kind of looked like a bird. Ooh. Ooh. He's from Texas. Ooh. He was for a little bit. Not Kevin Durant?

[Dave Schilling]

No, he's not from Texas. He's not. He played in Texas, right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, it's going to drive me crazy. Somebody out there knows he kind of looks like a bird. He played for the Heat for a little bit. Ooh.

Damn it.

[Dave Schilling]

Chris. Chris Birdman.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Chris Bosh.

[Dave Schilling]

Chris Bosh. Oh, Chris Bosh. I thought you were like, Birdman. Okay, sure. Yeah, he looks like a bird. A little bit. Yeah. Okay, okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But I saw him play, like, when he was in high school, so it's like some people like to just see, you know, who's gonna be the next whatever. And check it out. So I definitely think that there's an audience for watching high school football now. Who has ESPN7? I don't know. I didn't even know they had feminine thing.

[Dave Schilling]

I just. I mean, I don't know. I don't. I like football. I like all sports. Really? For hockey. I don't get that. There's no black people. I can't trust it. But why am I High school football? I don't know. I don't need to go to a cocktail party and be like, did you see the. The left tackle for IMG Academy? Oh, boy. He's going to be blocking and running routes and all kinds of stuff for the Seahawks one day. Like, who's going to want to hear me say this? I don't mind a scout for the NFL.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, sounds like some delicious small talk to me, Dave.

[Dave Schilling]

I know. I'm sure some man is going to sweep you off your feet talking about how much they love Bishop Sycamore's corner, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So there is definitely an audience and a market for these things. And everybody didn't want to get their ass beat by img. So they were like, no, we're not going to do it. So I bet when prep Gridiron called Bishop Sycamore and they're like, hey, Bishop Sycamore, don't hang up. We got an opportunity for you. Great opportunity, right? Bishop Sycamore was like, huh? Okay, we playing who? Img. Okay, that sounds good. We're gonna be there. I mean, it's. I'm. No. Oh, it stand for something. Okay. Yeah, no, we'll be there.

[Dave Schilling]

What's a good school? They're just starting to read it instead of it being an acronym. Yeah, a good school, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It was like, drop the address. We gonna pull up. Yeah, okay. Do y' all got parking?

[Dave Schilling]

Do you validate?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, no, we not coming in a bus. We. Everybody coming individually. We got four Honda fits.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. There won't be a team meal. We just got orange slices in a. Like a cooler.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

Do y' all have coolers?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This. Let me, Let me ask you, does IMG have coolers that, like, maybe they could share? Like, it's like a, what, one water situation?

[Dave Schilling]

Or y' all like Capri Sun?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. And they got trainers too, right? Okay, so what happens if we don't have trainers? Like, if we get injured, could we use IMG's trainers or do y' all provide medical?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, none of these kids have health insurance. Unfortunately, that's probably true. Oh, God, that's not funny.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We also down three cups. Does anybody else.

[Dave Schilling]

That's why you gotta write your name on it so people don't throw them away.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So, yeah, we could. We could use one shoulder pad if y' all got it. Add shit up. So, of course they're the ones who are foolish enough to do this. Many expected the game to be between two top tier academies as Bishop Sycamore was touted to be the IMG of the West. No, they didn't. As well as have a number of Division 1 prospects on their roster. I love that they basically were just like, oh, IMG is good. Yeah, we're the IMG of the West. We're the aming of the West.

[Dave Schilling]

The announcers during this game are like, yeah, we've heard a lot of great things about Bishop Sycamore, the school. You know, they're. They're tough. They're. They come out there and they play hard. And then by like the third quarter, they're like, guys, I think we've been. We've been scammed by these dudes. I'm not sure that these are actual football players.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They started to get scared for them. You can tell it went from like. First of all, I love some anchors just lying and be like, we've heard amazing. Like, let me tell you a boy, Terrell out there, Terrell, he's the one to watch. And they're like, you've done no research on this school. Y' all just up here lying like.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I have some podcasts. And people come on, they're like, yeah, I just did this. I wrote this book. I'm like, cool book. Yeah, it was really great. I read the whole thing, and I'm like, I never read the book. Come on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right?

[Dave Schilling]

Come on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Y' all need to get into this book because it's. Ever read that? No, I have. I at least try to read, like, a chapter or two so I can, like, throw out some facts and be like, I read it.

[Dave Schilling]

You know, kind. You're very kind. I'm not. I'm a mean person.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, you're not, Dave. You don't even sound mean.

[Dave Schilling]

I don't. I don't. I'm the one who got scammed at the bar.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You did. I don't know if you can achieve being mean. Like, that bartender was like, hold on. Poverty's calling. Oh, poverty's calling.

[Dave Schilling]

It just comes up out of poverty.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's poverty. Is that scam? Likely just said poverty. It's poverty again. God, this poverty's beating my ass.

[Dave Schilling]

Do you mind if I put this on speaker? Yeah. Hello? Yeah, it's me. Poverty. God damn it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just. Just want to let you know you're still here.

[Dave Schilling]

Bills are coming up. It's 15th. Let's go. Get it done.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Robbery.

[Dave Schilling]

I don't mean to interrupt your meal, but I saw you from across a cafe and. You're the Geico Gecko, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

In the flesh.

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This is huge.

[Dave Schilling]

To finally meet you. I love Geico's fast and friendly claim service.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, that's how Geico gets 97% customer satisfaction.

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[Dave Schilling]

Enjoy the rest of your food.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No worries. So are you just gonna watch me eat? Oh, sorry. Just a little starstruck.

[Dave Schilling]

I'll be on my way.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you're gonna stick around, just pull up a chair.

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So IMG dominated Bishop Sycamore, scoring 24 points by the first quarter and finishing with a score of 58, 0. At that point, IMG is just being disrespectful. Like, bitch, y' all done beat they asses. Just go home, shake handshake. Like just, you know, I feel like you don't have to do anything after halftime. Also, does Bishop Sycamore have cheerleaders? Because does IMG had cheerleaders?

[Dave Schilling]

No, they couldn't afford cheerleaders. They don't have. They don't have cheerleaders at the 99 cent store. What are you talking about?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's just their cousins in like some spirit of Halloween. They go to spirit of Halloween, they get a bunch of Ms. Cheerleading costumes. They're like, yo, tell our niece and them to round their friends up. What's a Bishop Sycamore chair? B.

[Dave Schilling]

What's after that? I don't know. It doesn't matter.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Bishop, we sick. We sick. We sick more.

[Dave Schilling]

We sick. You did a better job than I thought you would coming up with a with a chant there. That's not bad.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, we sick and we definitely legit.

[Dave Schilling]

We sick and more sick. A more sick A more.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, yeah, we could do this. It's just like very mismatched roster. I love this. So IMG beat they asses. It almost immediately became clear that Bishop Sycamore was dangerously outmatched. And the game went. As the game went on, commentators began to question the legitimacy of the school's claims, none of which could be verified. So we have a little video here of where the announcers start to really figure out that something, right? And what I love is like the announcers, like you were saying, Dave, they come in so hype. They're like, these are going to be the best schools. It's going to be a really tough game. Da, da da. And then I love this shift from like, oh, this is going to be a great game to like, oh my God, are these people going to die?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, it's like if I go on a first date and I'm like, oh man, this would be awesome. And then you start to realize that this person is, like, really into crystals or, like, maga or something, and you're like, oh, no.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Damn. How you go juxtapose crystals and maga like that? They are not the equivalent.

[Dave Schilling]

There are a lot of crystal people who are anti vaxx. That's all I'm saying.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Similar charge my rose quartz, but I got the vaccine. Like, wow, I can't believe you're going to put me. I can't believe you said crystal. You was like, crystal people. You know, not Nazis.

[Dave Schilling]

Listen, I say they're exactly the same, all right? They're not exactly the same. They're just, you know, a little kooky.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow.

[Dave Schilling]

Anyway, I want to know what a.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Stone did to you. I just want to know what.

[Dave Schilling]

I don't know. The stones didn't do anything other than ruin some of my relationships with women. That's all. Like, I can't. I can't live with you like this. If you're worshiping a rock, come on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We not worshiping it. The rock is vibes.

[Dave Schilling]

You and your vibes. All right, vibes are not currency, okay? You can't trade goods and services for vibes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You definitely can. That's pretty much my whole entire career.

[Dave Schilling]

Does icarly pay you in vibes? No, they pay you at vibes?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, they pay me in money, but I show up and I give them vibes.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, I see.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's why they hired me to do vibes to them.

[Dave Schilling]

All right, now, right now, we doing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Vibes to the congregation. Yeah, I said doing vibes. I'm doing vibes to them.

[Dave Schilling]

What are you doing in the bathroom, Dave? I'm doing vibes. Well, come out. Stop doing vibes all night.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now you're making it sound like drugs. I don't like that. I don't like this disrespect for the crystal community. We didn't do nothing.

[Dave Schilling]

I'm addicted to vibes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So let's play this video. We've got some commentators from espn. This went viral on Twitter.

[Geico Gecko (Voice Actor)]

Bishop Sycamore told us they had a.

[Dave Schilling]

Number of Division 1 prospects on their roster. To be frank, a lot of that we could not verify.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He said. They told us, like, they definitely lying.

[Dave Schilling]

In the databases of other recruiting services. So it's okay. If that's what you're telling us, fine. That's how we take it in. From what we've seen so far, this is not a fair fight.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And.

[Dave Schilling]

And there's got to be a point. Now, Luke's, where you do worry about.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Health and safety, where to get them here Says they probably look them borrow them.

[Dave Schilling]

I think it's those are, those are video game headsets. This could potentially be dangerous. They're wireless.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, you can pause it. I, I love the headsets. Cuz there's something very funny to me like them walking around pretending to talk in the headsets. But then like you keep seeing them talking to each other face to face. It's like they have headsets but they keep walking down the field to talk. I don't. Not connected to anything.

[Dave Schilling]

It's like if you're a chef and you're like, yeah, I've seen that they wear those hats. So I should probably wear the hat, right? Like the funny hat. The big white hat. Yeah, I'm gonna get a big white hat so I can work at Denny's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? It's like they all have the headset like wrapped around the back of their neck like they see on tv. It's like they don't use them at all. There's cords hanging off of them. Who are you talking to?

[Dave Schilling]

There's no microphone there. What's going on, man? I love that this dude is like in this video. Is like, like yeah, we, we did our research and we couldn't find anything on any of these players. Like, well, why didn't you broach the subject before they started the game and you broadcasted on tv?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Nobody wanted to play. Okay, Dave. Damn. This is the best they could find.

[Dave Schilling]

I just feel bad for the announcers who were like, yeah, I guess we should have said something when you know, we did our pre game research and all these guys just had like criminal records or something. Is that right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Every time we google we kept getting 404 error not found. But that's the wild. We just thought maybe it was the WI fi. I don't know. Their vibes seem like they were a football team so we just went with that.

[Dave Schilling]

ESPN chose this team based on vibes and that's fine. As we were told earlier in the podcast, vibes are currency. And so what we got out of this game was a hell of a lot of vibes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? And didn't we? Because we're talking about it right now. I had a great time. I'm so glad they did this. This sounds great to me. Also. I love when white people. Because you know how white people like won't like no shame white people out there. But there's a certain language that white people use instead of being direct that we all know and speak and sometimes it is exhausting. So I love this White man being like. Instead of being like, they lying, like, he was just like, he was like. We were told that they were a team with Division 1 athletes. When we researched, nothing was found. Okay, yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

He's both simultaneously passing the buck and not blaming anyone at all. Right, well, okay, so it's not my fault that this team is getting their ass kicked on tv, but it's no one else's fault either. As far as I know. This just kind of happened. And here we are.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He was like, they had said that they were good, and.

[Dave Schilling]

Well, I always just believe everyone.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They seem to be struggling to be good today.

[Dave Schilling]

Maybe it was just today. Maybe they didn't. They didn't have a good meal. Maybe the vibes are off. I don't know. Something's not going well for Bishop Sycamore today.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They might be a little tired because it seems as though everyone plays every position.

[Dave Schilling]

I mean, I'm shocked that this man said anything. Now, I'm sure you haven't noticed, but my father is a white man, and he would just not say anything about the problem. He just ignore it until my mother started screaming at him. So the fact that this guy said anything instead of like, well, fun game today. All right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go have a whiskey and go to sleep. Is amazing. Good for him being such a. An upfront, honest white person.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this is why this is shady. Shortly after. Well, one, shortly after this game, Bishop Sycamore was taken off the schedule. Ent. And it as it became clear that the school was far shadier than expected. So what's shady about it? Several concerning facts were immediately observed about Bishop Sycamore. Just two days before their game with img, Bishop Sycamore played against Stow Rocks High School, which they lost 19 to 7. Okay. They got a touchdown, though. Okay. Okay. So Bishop Sycamore had the same starting quarterback both games and frequently had players with the same numbers in the same alignments in both games. So this is kind of what we're talking about. A lot of the. These players played both ways in both games, meaning the kids had one day of rest after playing offense and defense before doing it all over again against maybe the most talented team in the country. No, it's recommended by USA Football that there should be no more than one full contact game or live action scrimmage per week. So if we're talking about just their health and safety, this is really dangerous. Also, we're talking like cte. We're talking about full tackle football. Like, this is not good for your brain.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. Even NFL players, when they play on three days rest, are struggling. Like, if you play a Thursday night football game, then you play a Monday or a Sunday game, you know, that's. That's intense. That's really bad for your body.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this posed a great deal of health and safety issues made obvious when several players suffered injuries during the IMG game. It was also appeared that Bishop Sycamore had mismatched helmets and potentially not enough helmets for the entire team, which, again, was only probably 30 to 35.

[Dave Schilling]

One dude comes out with a goldfish bowl on his head. That's not gonna cut it, man. Geez.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He was like, I got some bubble wrap, so I'm just gonna put that. I'm wrap that around real good.

[Dave Schilling]

Just four pillows, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We see somebody. Just four pillows with duct tape around.

[Dave Schilling]

Them, two holes cut in the front pillow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And everybody's playing both ways. So if y' all don't got enough helmet, it's like, what you doing? Like, where you get an extra helmet? Like, when do y' all switch? It's like they keep. Keep, like, giving. Passing that one helmet back and forth. They're like, well, we on offense right now, so I don't really need it. But when we get back on defense.

[Dave Schilling]

The field goal kicker, no helmet at all. You don't need that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They're not gonna hit you.

[Dave Schilling]

Dude, who cares why you were in a helmet in the first place, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You go trip and fall, get out there and kick. You don't need no damn helmet. Ted over here talking about he want a helmet like you, the kicker, but when you go back to being the offensive lineman, you can't have your helmet.

[Dave Schilling]

Who made you the king of England with this helmet? You want to have come on right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Thinking, what do you think? We rich like the helmet?

[Dave Schilling]

This guy is uppity all of a sudden won that helmet.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So additionally, Bishop Sycamore didn't have an away white jersey. Both teams played in black, which made it hard on spectators and even players themselves to tell the teams apart. So you on the field, you tackling somebody like, it's me, Craig.

[Dave Schilling]

The announcers are like, the guy in black, number 47, just hit number 22. I'm not sure who it is. There's no names on there. They're all wearing masks, basically. What a mess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's like, why you blocking me? Crack down. No, go for him. We're on the same team. Yeah, this is a hot hat Mess. Before the 20, 21 game where they got outed, Bishop Sycamore was originally founded as a. A Christian of faith Academy in 2018 by Andre Peterson, who also coaches the team's offensive and defensive line. So their head coach at the time, Roy Johnson, who was responsible for the team, you know, as a whole, basically, like cof. The Christian of Faith Academy shut down after just one season, but shortly after reopened as Bishop Sycamore. They said that didn't work. That didn't work.

[Dave Schilling]

I love a good rebrand. You know, it's like Facebook changes their name to Meta, and all the problems are solved. Solved.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

All the problems. I look like. Is that really what they're gonna change it to? Is that the name they picked?

[Dave Schilling]

Meta? Yeah. Yeah. You're too busy going out, having a good time. You don't see the Internet. You don't see the name.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. I knew that they were changing their name, but I didn't know to what.

[Dave Schilling]

Meta. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's a terrible name.

[Dave Schilling]

I agree. But you know what? I think Bishop Sycamore was a better name than Christian.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Bishop Sycamore sounds like a school. It sounds fancy. It sounds like, you know, you gotta pay tuition, you gotta have a little interview or whatever to get your kids.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. It's a preparatory academy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's a preparatory academy. It's given, like, you know, kids wear bow ties. The parents will help their kid cover up a murder. It's given, like, they got money.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. You ever see school ties kind of.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like that, you know, they made Bishop Sycamore did the rebrand thing. Despite promises of large new facilities, it appears the school was and has only ever been a purely online school with next to no information about it available online. How your school gonna be an online school, but ain't no information about it online? That's where y' all live?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. Where are the classes taking place? How do you sign up for the school if there's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The school is vibes.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. It's like, it smells like education is happening.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you feel like you go to Bishop Sycamore, guess what? You do.

[Dave Schilling]

But you still have to pay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you think about Bishop Sycamore, like, three, four times a day, guess what? You're enrolled.

[Dave Schilling]

Say Bishop Sycamore three times. Just like Candyman. It will appear, and it will appear.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The school will appear. You just gotta do the incantation and then this license.

[Dave Schilling]

Candles. Get some moon rocks or some gems or some stones.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now, you. No, you keep crystals out of your mouth. Okay? You can't talk about crystals no more. You keep my name out your mouth. I'm Crystals.

[Dave Schilling]

Okay? I'M sorry about that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm about to light a candle right now. I can't believe this. Okay, I'm gonna get rid of you. I'm gonna get rid of your vibes with my candle and my sage.

[Dave Schilling]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So there's also no indication that it has any students outside of its football team. I love this slow unraveling that's also written like the announcer. There's no indication that there's any student. It's like, yes, there's no students. It's a fake school, and it's only a football team. And they are kind of people for coins. So. The football team known as Bishop Sycamore first played in 2019, during which they went four a variety of smaller schools, none of them located in Ohio. On August 27, 2019, they were removed from playing against the Mainland High School in the Freedom Bowl, a private football tournament in Milton, Georgia, for breach of contract following failure to submit their rosters and book hotel rooms in time. So they were like, we don't know who's playing for your team. Bishop Sycamore was like, we don't know either. And when we do, we gonna call y'. All. Damn. We said we gonna figure it out. Like, why you need to know right now?

[Dave Schilling]

What's the rush? Okay, you know what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We'll figure it out.

[Dave Schilling]

The game day today, we got some leads, some players. We got some resumes coming in from Indeed.com. we got this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We got this. We go. We hanging out at the local gym, seeing who's fit, playing basket, hanging out at the.

[Dave Schilling]

At the Crunch Gym or like 24 Hour Fitness. Like, that guy looks like he could throw a football. Right, right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We go to the basketball court. Not the same sport, but, no, we're just looking for athleticism.

[Dave Schilling]

I just like how you look at that jersey. It's fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Just feel like you got good calves.

[Dave Schilling]

You can definitely do something. Vibes. You're talking about vibes again.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They didn't book their hotel rooms in time. I'm sure they were like, well, we gotta. Who got hotel money? Like, we gotta figure that out. We actually was gonna stay at an Airbnb, the whole football team, all 35 of us. We got a two bedroom. We gonna fit everybody in there. That's what we doing. So that was a little shady situation. But they weren't outed to be a fake school at the time. So it kind of was just like they took an L, but they kept doing their fake school thing. There were additionally safety concerns as many of the student athletes looked Older than high school age. Yeah, because they were grown ass men. This is like a Will Ferrell feral movie, like in the making.

[Dave Schilling]

And he's got gray hair on his temples.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

On Bishop Sycamore team, the one with the walker, he said he got gout.

[Dave Schilling]

This is collecting Social Security already? What is happening?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, he said something about he can't come because he on probation for unpaid child support. And he said he been on probation for 10 years. I was like, yeah, when did you have the baby? How old is the kid? Yeah, one of them over there was giving me advice about college because they said they signed in college, too. How old are these men?

[Dave Schilling]

They're like. They're like 20, like 25 or something.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

I can't believe that anybody believed this. Like, when these dudes show up on the bus and they walk out, you're like, yeah, that's an adult man. How are you getting duped? That's an adult. Adult human being. A grown man. What is this?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's when the kind of like, blackness of it all comes in. Like, we. We're all aged up as black people in the eyes of white people, in the eyes of media anyway. So they probably were like, well, you know, they all look grown to me once they turn 11. So.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, God. I mean, you're probably dark. It's a really dark thing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But, yeah, so, you know, but they, they grown girls. So many players had already graduated from high school, and There were like four or five kids that were 20, 21 and had children of their own. Like, we were joking. They fully got kids. For lack of an actual campus, athletes were housed in a hotel for five months, paid for with bounce checks, and the only education provided was to visit a public library and a single religion class taught by Coach Johnson. So Coach Johnson's also leading Bible study. If you ever watch the TV show the game, it's very much giving. Like, they had like one Bible study session a month at somebody living room.

[Dave Schilling]

I feel bad for Coach Johnson when they get to the part in the Bible where they talk about thou shalt not steal. Because he's just ripping these dudes off.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. You know, a little bit.

[Dave Schilling]

He's stealing from those people that are on the team, Lacy. He's stealing from those people saying, I'm going to give you an education. And then he teaches one Bible study class and tells him to fuck up to the library.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's what they want. I'm sure that's what they want. I'm sure they weren't like, no, we would actually Love to go to class, like. Sure.

[Dave Schilling]

But he also.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Marine biologist.

Sure.

[Dave Schilling]

But he's also promising them that they can maybe get into a Division 1 or Division 2 football program. That's a fucking lie, too.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's a risk for sure. I mean, a risk. It's, like, insane what's happening. I'm calling it a risk. But also, he was stealing from those hotels. I don't know how you get a hotel for five months and the checks bounce, and they just. I guess they're squatters rights. But I'm like, how do y'. All.

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, I was bouncing checks on an apartment for a while. I'd bounce the check.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wait, there's squatter rights?

[Dave Schilling]

Yes, there's squatters rights, but I don't know if you have squatters rights for a hotel.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's what I'm thinking. So you bounce the check for apartment. Wait, what happened?

[Dave Schilling]

Oh, so I bounced a check, and then I would be able to, like, I'd get my next paycheck, and then I would just, like, give them another one. They'd be like, okay, so we have. You have pay a late fee for the bounce check, but you could still pay in, like, another seven days. And so I was able to then cover the costs.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Now, why do the whole rigmarole? Like, why not just hit him up and be like, hey, I need seven days. Like, you're like, here's your check on time, Mr. Landlord. I love capitalism. Is that your boot? Let me take a lick.

[Dave Schilling]

Because sometimes, you know, it's better to just lie about the problem than actually address it, which is what I got from my white father.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just pretend it's. Put that on white people, Dave.

[Dave Schilling]

Don't put that. Yeah, I shouldn't blame all of my problems on being half white, should I?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, but you could do most. I can blame most of my problems on being black. So it's cool. We could. We could do. We could do many. Now, my love for crystals.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I'm not sure where that's coming from. I really.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But it's also not a problem.

[Dave Schilling]

See, you're right. I think it's only how you perceive the situation. I perceive it to be, you know, a little quirky thing that you do. That's fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Don't discriminate. I don't like that. I don't like that. So the players. The players were also not provided with food. And some players resorted to stealing from supermarkets to eat. Oh, okay. This is sad, Dave. You're right. This man was cheating these young men because, like, 2021 isn't an adult. Your brain isn't fully developed. Like, I don't think it's what, you're 25 till it's fully developed. And like, they're young, they're broke, they trying to steal food. All they want to do is join the NFL. Okay, it's getting a little SA now. I'm like, coach Johnson, sue a scam.

[Dave Schilling]

ESPN and IMG all you want. Don't scam these. These 21 year old guys who are trying to make a living. That sucks.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And how can they not eat? How can they not afford to eat? If y' all are playing these kind of payola football games? Like, you're not. You're making some money. You must be making a coin if you're keeping up this big of a grift, so. And you're not paying for the hotels, so who. Where's the money going, Coach?

[Dave Schilling]

All those headsets and headphones. All the headsets, all those not plugged in headphones.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The sports accoutrement.

[Dave Schilling]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They went to Radio Shack and said, run it up.

[Dave Schilling]

Radio Shack. You still got Radio Shack? Circuit City.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like it's like one Radio Shack left. Just a few. Circuit City. Oh, Lord.

[Dave Schilling]

Let me get my Texas Instruments calculator. Solar powered, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's fancy. It's like, I don't know.

[Dave Schilling]

I have the solar power.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So apparently Coach Johnson recruited the students with the prospect of practicing at Ohio State facilities. In reality, they have practiced outside of an apartment complex that housed students of Ohio State.

[Dave Schilling]

Were they playing in the parking lot?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, so listen, did he lie, though?

[Dave Schilling]

They valet the car and then they go back to practice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He said, y' all gonna be playing at Ohio State. The top of the line. Facilities, facilities. And then they got to the facilities, and he was like, all right, so by facilities, I mean we're gonna be in that parking lot across the street from the facilities. Yeah, but you can see the facilities from here.

[Dave Schilling]

Better be. It better be a no contact practice. If you go up dead on that asphalt, you're breaking a bone, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Y' all playing on a parking lot.

[Dave Schilling]

We got a bouncy house. You guys could just hit each other as much as you want. It's fine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Well, he said outside of an apartment complex, so maybe they're not in the parking lot. Maybe they're in the grass. And they're like, okay, the sprinkler's gonna come on, so we gotta get this.

[Dave Schilling]

Last place they're gonna do Shakespeare in the park later. So we better wrap up It's Henry viii, so it'll be really long.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Also, if campus security comes over here, just don't. Don't tell them what we doing.

[Dave Schilling]

You guys playing football?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No. Tell them we go to Ohio State.

[Dave Schilling]

We're all cousins, so that's a football in your hand. No, it's not. Not a football and then just throw it away.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's not. No. We were just standing out here, you know, Vibes.

[Dave Schilling]

This is a great. Just, like, fallback. Just say vibes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? It works for everything.

[Dave Schilling]

It does.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The school struggled to maintain coaches as 80% of the coaching staff quit during the season, and the team was left to just two coaches and one mother of a player. So your mama, not your mama, gotta come coach the team.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. Now you're scamming mothers out here, Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So the school's illegal practices. At one point, so many players had active arrest warrants that the team could not fly to away games. Damn. Everybody on the no fly list. God damn.

[Dave Schilling]

Ala on your team. What's going on?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Right.

[Dave Schilling]

Taliban showed up. Play football.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We had to recruit where we could. Okay. So we actually saw an ad on Craigslist for joining the Taliban, and we went and was like, would y' all like to play some football in between?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. You guys seem like you like to hang out with other men, you know?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Dave Schilling]

Work together for a common purpose. What about football?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You're totally fine with dangerous activity. Doesn't seem like a lot of you have any regard for, like, health or safety or. If you're gonna live a long time.

[Dave Schilling]

You guys don't mind living on a cot, right? Come on down.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like they're the perfect recruits for Mr. Sycamore's team. Oh, it's like we just can't fly.

[Dave Schilling]

Just can't fly anywhere. But other than that, we're good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? You can't fly anywhere, but everything else is good. They were like, yeah, we got a game in Puerto Rico. Okay, I'm gonna catch a boat.

[Dave Schilling]

You guys got like a. You know, like a scooter or something?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

There's a Carnival cruise that drops off in Puerto Rico. I'm gonna just make that my last day.

[Dave Schilling]

They all got Carnival cruise money. You outta your mind?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's very true.

[Dave Schilling]

Carnival. That's pretty true.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They ain't got a carnival coin. You're right about that. So the team also struggled with camaraderie. Player claimed that there were at least five fights every practice.

[Dave Schilling]

Five fights. Well, if you don't feed people, you make them play football in an open field. Or a parking lot. And then you make them all live together in a tiny little, like, apartment complex or something. Yeah, they're gonna fight each other. They get real pissed off.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Five fights. Just feels like too many fights.

[Dave Schilling]

Five fights every practice, every. And after the second fight, I'm like, all right, let's take a break. Let's go play Xbox.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, right. Every time you. Every time you go get water, like, oh, they're fighting again. Damn. All right, well, I'm giving five minutes.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. They'll wear each other out. Eventually, they'll get tired.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But you're not gonna be able to run your rounds if y' all keep fighting in between every play. We're trying to get it down to, like, three fights of practice.

[Dave Schilling]

I wish they had gotten to a fight during the game, like, with each other. It's like, what are they doing? He said something about his mom, and that just wasn't cool.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. And you know his mom do be coaching the team. Yeah. Somebody said she'd be doing after hour. Coach.

[Dave Schilling]

Hey, my mom is my ride home. You.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, goodness. So, yeah. This is absolutely unhinged. These poor young men, and also the fact that they literally are not getting anything that they were told that they were supposed to get. So when Bishop Sycamore was cof, it was under the federal investigation for use of counterfeit currency, credit and debit card fraud, computer fraud, and potential other online crime. So when it was cof, that was the Christian faith or whatever the hell. So they were over here doing all the crime and also never taught a single class, Just did crime. Credit card fraud. Like, they up for everything. Computer fraud. What is computer fraud?

[Dave Schilling]

Well, these are all valuable skills to learn, I think.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know what? And there it is.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Bishop Sycamore was a school where they educate you on how to scam, and that is a valuable skill. It is a career. You can definitely make crime a career and a passion.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. I take it back about saying that they were getting taken advantage of. They learned something. They learned. Learned computer fraud. They learned wire fraud. They learned how to bounce checks effectively.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, what's your third period? I got computer fried this this semester for third period. Okay. What you in? Oh, I'm in mail fraud. Oh, okay, cool.

[Dave Schilling]

I got identity theft. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, I took identity theft last semester. If you want my notes, I just need your Social Security number, and I send you my notes.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, if you could just leave your credit card, debit card, let me see.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Your driver's license, and then I'm gonna send you my notes. So that's what we learned.

[Dave Schilling]

Seven and a half, right? Cool.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cool.

[Dave Schilling]

All right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I need. I just need to know so I can send the notes. So, how the game happened and who stands to profit. Wow, this is a long one. I didn't know that Bishop Sycamore was running all these scammers. For my understanding, it was just the viral football game and then they were just playing fake football. I didn't know they were doing all the crimes.

[Dave Schilling]

It was a holistic crime operation. It was like Goodfellas or something. But for football.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But for football. We play football, but we're also the mob. You know? You get it. It goes so on yappy.com, which is like a forum that's dedicated specifically to Ohio school school sports. So there's like a whole website just for Ohio school sports.

[Dave Schilling]

This is weird.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So specific and a little bizarre. So someone made multiple posts defending the game and implying knowledge of the situation and how it could be a financial benefit. So on one post, jersey flyer states, this is like a name, I guess, fake name, online profile name. I'm obviously a risk taker, especially when I feel I have absolutely nothing to lose. I've taken similar risks in the past with fledging programs. I'm batting like 0.667 right now. Okay, so a promoter like PGO, which is what you were talking about before, like they get streaming deals. So this is like a streaming deal with espn and they can come in and the broke. If they broker the arrangement between the two teams, they get a cut of the streaming profits from either or both of the schools. They'll also require these major schools to pay certain fees in order for the unknown school to travel and take part in the game. Those fees often range between $3,010,000, but have reached as high as $32,000 for a game. Once the unknown schools play, they presumably become known entities and thus begin to cycle anew. So in Bishop Sycamore's case, coach Roy Johnson agreed to the terms of playing a big name school as long as those schools paid for the team's travel expenses, which I'm sure when you got to go everywhere via car on foot, it's on the no fly list. Yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

Cuz your team is made up of ALA members.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we don't need a lot of gas. We gonna need a lot of gas.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes.

[Dave Schilling]

That's. That's a great scam. Like just this part of it where the guy's like, yeah, we'll play you if you pay. Pay us to play.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We're Real good.

[Dave Schilling]

Incredible. Yeah, we'll do it. We don't care. Just give us gas.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we're in Ohio. Wait, where's the game? You said upstate New York. Okay, we gonna need four days. Days. Four.

[Dave Schilling]

We got four days just for travel. All right. And then when we get there, we need a couple days just to, like, buy jerseys and stuff. But once we got the jerseys. Yeah, we don't got any jerseys right now, but if you give us the cash, we'll play the game.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, actually, we need the money up front cuz we've been four. Four team members are sharing a helmet and it's starting to get a little hectic. They can find.

[Dave Schilling]

Let me get an advance on that. They keep stats for who has the most fights every practice. Oh, yeah. Jim's got seven fights this week. It's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we told Jim he got to chew. He got to bring it down to six fights or less. We can't do this no more. We're tired. We're tired of Jim, so. However, obviously, instead of spending this money on housing or even food for the team, Johnson would pocket the money.

[Dave Schilling]

Of course. He was.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Such a physical sport. You are working out so much. You are burning so many calories. How can you not feed these young men? How you gonna be like you ate yesterday? Now get out there and run your routes.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, even. Even Trump paid for that school to eat McDonald's.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Dave Schilling]

That's the cheapest motherfucker on the planet.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

How are we gonna be having football for. For dinner? Like, what?

[Dave Schilling]

You're eating vibes for dinner tonight, guys.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Just think about food that you would like to eat.

[Dave Schilling]

It's a secret. You think about it, it'll show up at your door.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Just drink a lot of water if it feel like you ate a meal. It feel the same way.

[Dave Schilling]

Say food five times and it'll appear.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It'll be here. So Bishop Sycamore. This is where they are now. Coach Johnson was fired immediately after the game. Fired from what? That's not real. What are you. How are you fired?

[Dave Schilling]

He got fired from his own scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Scams work. So Bishop Sycamore's founder, Andre Peterson, has no intention of folding the program. It's very unlikely Bishop will play another game this season as other schools have pulled out of their scheduling game, citing safety concerns for their own players. Ohio Governor Mike DeWine has ordered the state's Department of Education to investigate Bishop Sycamore. According to the court records, Roy Johnson has unpaid bills totaling over $300,000. Heartbeat production Kevin Hart's production company has already announced plans to put together a docu series on Bishop Sycamore. Please, I need it. I need to know what these five fights a day were about. I need to know if they ever got to eat anything. So SMAC Entertainment announced that it's paying Coach Johnson for exclusive rights and access to all television and film projects. Note that SMAC Entertainment is a talent management and production company from the former NFL strategist and executive Constance Schwartz Morini and the pro football player Michael Strahan. So Michael Strahan's company is getting involved, and they want to buy the rights. I mean, he's about to get the bag. 300k. That's mean nothing to him.

[Dave Schilling]

That's nothing. Yeah, you're right, man.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Chris, you're. You're. What's that his name? Coach Johnson. Coach Johnson. You a bad man, but you hilarious, bro. You are bad.

[Dave Schilling]

Unbelievable. I mean, he's. I think he's got to go in some sort of hall of fame for greatest true ridiculous scams. Most ridiculous.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And also, like, points for style. Points. Points for costumes, wardrobe.

[Dave Schilling]

Love the headset.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Love the headsets. Such creative lies, even to the team. You told them they're playing. Playing at Ohio State facilities, and they were really playing outside of Ohio State apartments.

[Dave Schilling]

No, the. The practice is in Ohio, don't get me wrong.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And it's on Ohio State's campus.

[Dave Schilling]

The state of Ohio will. Will be there. Unbelievable.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, beautiful, man. This is hilarious. I'm so proud of this, man. And aside from my favorite segment, every segment's my favorite. But this is scammer of the week. This is where we highlight an honorary charlatan that we feel is worthy of our praise. So today, or maybe not. We might hate them. Let me put that out there. Disclaimer. So this week, we're keeping it NFL. So three more former NFL players have pleaded guilty to a health care fraud scheme, bringing the total number to 15 former NFL players pleading guilty. Guilty. So Clinton Portis, who most recently played for the Washington football team, to Tamar Vanover, who played for Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego chargers, and Robert McCoon, who played for several NFL teams. Damn. They was like, we not even gonna list his credits. They're like, I don't know. He played for people.

[Dave Schilling]

You've heard of these teams. There's a lot of teams he's played for.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

There's a lot of teams.

[Dave Schilling]

So we team.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, he was. He was professional. So they have been doing the scheme for, like, years, and they just pled guilty. So the scheme involved the Gene Upshot NFL Player Health reimbursement account plan, which was created to give tax free reimbursements to health expenses that weren't covered by insurance for up to $350,000 per player. The accused players submitted false claims and were paid out for expensive medical equipment that they never actually obtained. One player obtained over 2.0. $2.9 million.

[Dave Schilling]

What? $2.9 million. That's more than some of these guys made in a year.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right, because what is it like the base salary, the starting is like $600,000.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. If you're like a really low level player.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you're like, really?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, that's a league minimum, something like that. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. So some of the expensive devices players filed for were hyperbaric oxygen chamber cryotherapy machines, ultrasound machines designed for use by a doctor's office to conduct women's health examinations, and electromagnetic therapy devices.

[Dave Schilling]

Hey, girl, you wanna come over to my house? You want to do an ultrasound? That's a great way to bring somebody back your place, isn't it?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, God, it's like y' all had. Y' all had consensual sex. And then he's like, hey, you wanna.

[Dave Schilling]

See what's going on down there?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

See what's going on down there? I love also that they were just like, these are fine things for people to buy. Like, they're like, hey, yo, it's me. What's his name? Terrell Owens. It's me, Terrell Owens. I need some money for an MRI machine. Yeah, I need one for my house.

[Dave Schilling]

I'm gonna operate it myself. I got a remote control inside it. And I was like, oh, look at that thing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Sometimes I just be feeling like doing an mri. And you know, the hospital is long wait.

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah, I just want to. I just want to chill in there for a bit. It makes. It relaxes me. I watch Succession on a little iPad in there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Do an mri.

[Dave Schilling]

Sometimes you wake up and you're like, God, I wish I could just do an MRI tonight.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, damn, I'm so tired of not being able to do this in my house. It's so inconvenient to go to the hospital. Like, fuck. So anyway, yeah, can y' all run me enough money for that?

[Dave Schilling]

Ultrasound is the best.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The ultrasound is insane. Like, you're okay. So first of all, if you're playing in the NFL, you probably identify as a man and usually a cisgendered man. So why they letting you buy ultrasound? For what?

[Dave Schilling]

I truly don't know. It's like, here's the. Here's my game room. Here's the study. Here's my living room. Oh, that's my MRI machine. That's my. That's my ultrasound machine over there. Yeah, okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, you got money?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's. There's the operating stadium where I just. I operate on various subjects. Like, what's going on?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What's going on?

[Dave Schilling]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, goodness.

[Dave Schilling]

Open heart surgery. I'm doing it. Yeah, they happen.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, it's a little harder when you're doing it all yourself. But it can be done. It can be done.

[Dave Schilling]

Just like checking YouTube, how to tutorials.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

How to open heart surgery. No, it can't be done. So, guys, that brings us to the end of a fantastic episode. Thank you so much, Dave, for coming on the show. We always ask, where do you want to be found? Where would you like people to find you?

[Dave Schilling]

Where do I want to be found? It seems like a threat. Where do you want to be found, Dave? I'm. I'm on Twitter at Dave Underscore Shilling. You can listen to my podcast, Galaxy Brains. Every Thursday. It's me and Jonah Ray of the Meltdown show and Mystery Science Theater 3000 fame. We talk about movies and TV. It's very silly. It's basically like half sketch comedy in half, like an actual podcast about movies. So please listen to it. It's really good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Awesome as always, guys, you can email [e-mail] Snitch on your friends and family. Just make sure you Scam is retired, so we don't. What? Yes. Up your back if you want to follow us on Instagram. We made it to 20, 000 followers, y'. All. Thank you. Scam got his pod. If you want to see the pictures, you definitely want to see the pictures of Mitchell Sycamore because this is a hot mess. Videos. Everything will be up there if you want to follow me and my nonsense. D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms except for Tick Tock, where I'm Lacy, mostly congregation. Get that merch.

Scheming.

Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz, and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

[Dave Schilling]

This has been a Team Coco production in association with Earw.

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