Fraud Friday: The Fruitcake Funneler w/ the Florida Girls

Summary

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Scam Goddess – Fraud Friday: The Fruitcake Funneler w/ the Florida Girls

Date: December 12, 2025
Host: Laci Mosley
Guests: Patty Guggenheim, Melanie Field, Laura Chen (Florida Girls Cast)

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Main Theme & Episode Overview

This episode of Scam Goddess, released as part of the Fraud Friday series, delivers a riotous deep-dive into the world of cons with extra flavor—literally—via the legendary "Fruitcake Funneler" case. Laci Mosley is joined by her fellow cast members from Florida Girls: Patty Guggenheim, Melanie Field, and Laura Chen. The crew brings irreverence and wit to dissecting both listener-submitted scams and the epic true tale of Sandy Jenkins, an unassuming bakery accountant turned multi-million-dollar embezzler.

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Episode Highlights & Discussion Points

Scam Chat & Guest Intros (04:50–16:00)

• Laci Mosley launches into playful banter with her guests, introducing them and riffing on everything from dust mites to pillowcases.
• The group shares personal scam experiences—ranging from tech headaches (Apple’s business model as a “voluntary scam”) to “planned obsolescence” of devices and bulbs.
  • Quote: “Apple is a scam that I sign up for. I sign up for it willingly.” – Melanie Field (08:28)
• A lighthearted discussion of religion as another kind of “scam” in daily life.
  • Quote: "Religion is like the casino—biggest scam. So you just gotta put your money on everything." – Laci Mosley (13:02)
• The guests blend scam experiences with anecdotes about tech support, customer service, and everyday “legal” schemes.

Listener Letter: The Amazon Gift Card Principal Scam (17:35–29:37)

• Timestamps: 17:35 – 29:37
• Laci reads a letter from a listener, "Roddy Ricch," sharing their near-miss with a school principal email scam involving Amazon gift cards. The hosts gleefully roast the scam’s clumsy language and logic.
  • Scammer impersonates the school principal, requests $500 in Amazon cards with stilted language (“I am in a meeting now…”).
  • Key warning signs called out: odd urgency, typos, bizarre phrasing (“send the recipe” for card codes).
  • Quote: “The language is...very bizarre. And in return—and I’ll return you the money back to you.” – Laci Mosley (21:21)
• Broader discussion on types of digital and blackmail scams, including creepy emails referencing real passwords, and the psychology behind falling or not falling for such schemes.
  • Quote: “If my nudes get leaked...I'll just be like, well, sexual liberation movement!” – Melanie Field (24:32)
• Laci and the guests offer accessible scam-dodging advice:
  • Caution whenever someone asks for money.
  • Beware of over-explaining before you ask questions.
  • “Time sensitivity” is always a red flag.

Historic Hoodwink: Sandy Jenkins, The Fruitcake Funneler (31:45–68:58)

• Timestamps: 31:45 – 68:58
• Main Event: Laci regales the cast with the saga of Sandy Jenkins, soft-spoken corporate controller for Texas’s famed Collins Street Bakery, who embezzled $16+ million over nearly a decade.
• Setup & Context:
  • Jenkins is initially “regular degular schmegular” (34:57), overlooked in small-town Corsicana, TX; joins bakery, rises to corporate controller.
  • Bakery’s huge fruitcake business is global; fruitcakes last “practically forever,” enabling mass mail-orders.
• The Scam Unfolds:
  • Exploits accounting software to generate legit-looking checks, pays off personal credit cards, then covers tracks with vendor checks that never get mailed.
  • Initial thefts are petty cash, but soon escalates—buying a gold Lexus, luxury clothes, Ferragamo shoes, $52k in Rolexes, $658k Santa Fe house (on his card!), and taking 43 private jet trips.
    • Quote: “He went from getting a Snickers bar and a Monster Energy drink on the company dime to a Lexus. I stand obsessed.” – Laci (41:18)
  • His wife, K, goes from frumpy to fabulous, then fully quits her job; both deny knowledge as neighbors gawk at new riches and suspect they “won the lottery.”
  • Wealth splurges become cartoonish: $7,000 cellphone, $40,000 horsehair mattress, gold bars in the air vents, $50,000 Steinway, extravagant philanthropy, lavish parties, and a mountain of Hummel figurines.
    • Quote: “Making sure to check the air vents where he had stashed some of the jewels.” – Laci (61:29)
• How He Got Away So Long:
  • Bakery’s expansion means its owners are distracted, explain away losses as “business costs” (50:11).
  • Jenkins times thefts to seasons with high spending (ingredient stocking, marketing, postage).
  • Auditing is nearly foiled by his own oversight—until a new accountant, Ms. Symmetric, is hired.
• The Downfall:
  • Ms. Symmetric quickly spots a $400,000 discrepancy linked to unauthorized “Capital One” checks, then surfaces 11 issues (58:00).
    • Quote: “She didn't want to flag the check just yet...she’s in a tough spot. And she’s a woman.” – Laci (57:48)
  • Jenkins, confronted, flounders; ultimately, the embezzlement is exposed: over $16 million in stolen checks and $114,000 in cash.
  • He flees, stashing valuables across Austin—including in a park and in Lady Bird Lake; authorities quickly recover much of the loot.
  • Both Jenkins and his wife are indicted; she receives probation, he gets 10 years in prison.
    • Quote: “He stole so hard for that money, he panicked...When he ran out of hiding places, he tossed the rest in the lake.” – Laci (63:39)
• Aftermath:
  • State sale to recoup losses: designer goods, luxury watches, gold Dunhill lighter, Hummel figurines auctioned off.
  • Reflection on the psychology of white-collar crime: “It’s a sickness.” (68:01)

Notable Sidebars and Quotes

• Apple as Everyday Scam (06:46–08:43)

  • “Every time I go into the Apple Store, I’m buying something new. I’m aware I’m being scammed…and I’m not gonna do anything about it.” – Melanie Field

• On Modern Scammers’ English (20:29–21:24)

  • “This language, it feels like English is not this person’s first language.”—the cast on the telltale signs of phishing emails.

• Religious Multiplicity as Insurance (13:02)

  • “So I believed in God, and I got a little money on Jesus, y’know? Got a little money in there.” – Laci Mosley

• Nudes & Blackmail Resilience (24:32)

  • “If my nudes get leaked…I’ll just be like, well, sexual liberation!” – Melanie Field

• Scam Tells (27:52)

  • “Here’s the number one warning for a scam: If somebody’s requesting money from you, that’s already sus...if they’re giving you lots of excuses when you haven’t asked any questions...something is off.” – Laci Mosley

• Fruitcake’s Eternal Shelf Life (33:03)

  • “Fruitcakes practically never go bad!” – Laci Mosley

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Memorable Moments & Humorous Asides

• The cast teasing K's “glow up” from flip-flop-wearing mamaw to diamond-laden socialite with a “quarter-million dollar engagement ring” (39:24, 49:23).
• Laci’s deadpan delivery about hiding gold bars “like eggs” in a park, and the group plotting a gold-diving trip to Austin (63:44–63:49).
• Repeated callbacks to everyday “scams”—Apple products, mattresses, charity events, even French-tip nails in Texas high schools (39:46–40:00).

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Useful Timestamps

| Time | Segment | |------------|------------------------------------------------------| | 04:50–16:00| Guest intros, personal scam stories, light scam chat | | 17:35–29:37| Listener story: School principal/Amazon scam | | 31:45–68:58| The Fruitcake Funneler: Sandy Jenkins story | | 58:00–62:00| Jenkins is caught; panic, hiding loot | | 66:02–68:46| Auction, legal outcomes, reflection on greed |

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Conclusion & Tone

Scam Goddess maintains its trademark irreverent, joyous vibe throughout, blending education with punchlines and real talk about the allure and absurdity of scams past and present. The hosts acknowledge the allure of “good” scams but ultimately advocate vigilance—remind listeners: “Stay scheming...but not too scheming!”

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Final note from Laci:

“You can email us your scams and retired scams at scamgoddesspodmail.com. And as always—stay scheming!” – Laci Mosley (70:12)

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Transcript

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Patty Guggenheim]

Hi. Oh, my gosh. I'm so good.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm so happy to be here. I'm happy you're here. We finally did it. It's so hard to get everybody's schedules together. Honey, everyone is so busy. Next, next to Patty, we have Melanie Fields. You can see my girl Melanie in the second season of you Honey.

[Melanie Fields]

Honey.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Playing Sunrise. I love me some sunrise.

[Melanie Fields]

That's a.

[Lacey Mosley]

And obviously it's Caitlin on Florida Girls and Patty who plays Erica on Florida Girls. I should have said that, too. And across from her is the Laura Chen, the creator and star of Florida Girls and a very good friend of mine as well. Hi. Hi. How are you?

[Laura Chen]

I'm so good.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

How are you?

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm good. Other than the fact that, like, I'm glad this is a podcast chat. Cause y' all can't see my under eyes. It's swollen right now. I just. I use some face cream, but it's, like, expensive face cream.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Is it expensive? Doesn't mean you're not gonna be allergic.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's true. No, My skin is very not hypoallergenic to.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I'm allergic to pore only.

[Lacey Mosley]

I am very allergic to pore. I'm like, is that pore? No, that'll break me out. Don't put that pore on me. No, it's probably allergies. Yeah. Yeah. I probably just need to change my pillowcase.

[Melanie Fields]

That's how you know it's time.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Do you have a silk. Silk case?

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I use a little. Cause I don't like how, like, I have oily skin. So I don't use a pillowcase that's silky. Cause it'll, like, leave your face behind. Yeah.

[Melanie Fields]

I recently learned that dust mites are, like, living things.

[Patty Guggenheim]

You learned over them.

[Melanie Fields]

Like, I had no idea. Like, I was like, oh, dust mites is just, like, a cute word for, like, little dust particles. It's like. No, they're mites. That means they're animals.

[Patty Guggenheim]

They have little legs.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

And teeth.

[Lacey Mosley]

You never watch them, like, videos on the Discovery Channel where they, like, zoom into them real hard and then they walk around on all your shit.

[Melanie Fields]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I don't want to know.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

And I don't want to know. Eating your skin and your hair. Yeah. It's nasty.

[Melanie Fields]

Disgusting.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

They're in your mattress. They say if you have a mat for, like, 10 years, it weighs, like, 15 pounds heavier because it's filled with, like, your body and the bugs that eat your body while you sleep.

[Lacey Mosley]

Delicious. Guys, change those mattresses. That's not a scam. Change a mattress.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Not a scam.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It is a scam because I work for a mattress company. You did, so. No, I'm just kidding.

[Lacey Mosley]

Laura plugs her mattress company now.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Gotta buy a mattress.

[Lacey Mosley]

Big mattress, two years.

[Patty Guggenheim]

She's really Larry, that guy from those mattress commercials.

[Lacey Mosley]

What's y' all's relationships with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever. Yes.

[Melanie Fields]

I own an Apple phone, so I feel like. I feel like Apple's the biggest scam.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah, we talk about the bluetex gang. Gang. I'll never leave, though.

[Melanie Fields]

It's the type of thing where, like, every time I go into the Apple Store, I'm buying something new. But I'm aware I'm being scammed at all times, but I'm not gonna do anything about it. I'm not gonna change. I'm not gonna get the Samsung thing. Even though they have Samsung stores now.

[Lacey Mosley]

They have a whole store for the.

[Melanie Fields]

Android that's like a full. Like the Apple Store, but for Samsung.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who was in there? What kind of people?

[Melanie Fields]

It was empty.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Is it, like, a fact that Apple isn't as good as these other phones?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, there's operating. So, like, it's almost like the MacBook and then, like, the Windows operating system. There's a reason, like, why schools and a lot of places still have Windows operating systems. Because, like, for when you're doing work and stuff or when you're opening spreadsheets or when you're doing, you know, that kind of work, it's just simpler and less conversion than if you have a MacBook and you have to use iOS programs. However, it's just sexier. It's the baby technology.

[Melanie Fields]

It's like, it's direct.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I feel like it's, you know, what's it called when you can, like, easily do things.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Efficient, user friendly, user friendly also.

[Melanie Fields]

But the scam of it is, like, you know, they're always changing the jack boards. Like you have to get something new or like, I just got a new phone and it started acting up. So I was like, oh, it's just a bad one. And I brought it back to the store and was like, this phone is acting up. I bought it two weeks ago. It's time for a new, like, I Need a new one. Change it out. And they asked me what was wrong with it, and I was like, the screen's kind of weird. And, well, they wouldn't give me a new phone. They just replaced the screen. They're like, it's not the phone. It's like, you need a new screen. I'm like, I bought it two weeks ago. I feel like I'm well within the warranty. I should just get a brand new one.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. They tried to scam you. They use.

[Melanie Fields]

They did scam.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, damn. Use that warranty. Especially if you have it. You got to use it. But they will try to, like, cheap you out. Ridiculous. Oh, man. I hate about it most is like, now that I get on airplanes, I have AirPods. I'm like, how I'm supposed to hear the plane? Like, how am I supposed to hear the TV on the plane? Exactly.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You have to have an adapter. You have to have a.

[Lacey Mosley]

There's no adapter to an AirPod.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, you have to bring that.

[Patty Guggenheim]

You have to bring that little bink Bing, and then you're not the. The AirPod.

[Lacey Mosley]

Then you have to bring your other. Yeah, I was about to say, you can't AirPod it on the plane. Yeah. There's no Bluetooth yet.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I have a laptop that's from 2014 and they don't sell laptop cases for it anymore. So I'm like, I guess I have to get a new laptop.

[Patty Guggenheim]

You have to make one at home.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Make my own sleeve.

[Lacey Mosley]

Every. Every industry has learned how to create middlemen where they need be. None.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I mean, hear the scam of light bulbs.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no, it's a light bulb.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You don't need them.

[Patty Guggenheim]

You don't need light because the sun goes scam. No. So like, they created. So light bulbs should, like, they were created first and they would work forever, like a hundred years at a time. And they made them so that they would burn out. So you are having to buy light bulbs over and over and over again now. But they. I mean, I guess LED is kind of in that now. We're okay. But the lighting is so bad with led. But they originally started with light bulbs that would just like, you would have one for your lifetime.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, that would be amazing. Could you imagine, like, going to get your light bulb is like a big deal. Yeah.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Like, oh, it's huge. My college light bulb.

[Melanie Fields]

But this light bulb since birth, obviously.

[Patty Guggenheim]

But it's like a whole industry of, like, figuring out how to make things, like, break.

[Melanie Fields]

Well, that's what I feel like Apple's doing. It's like, it's making it. Like I said, my experience with scams is like, I try to avoid them at all costs. I'm pretty savvy. I'm not gonna, like, fall into traps. I think I'm pretty good with that. But like, Apple is a scam that I sign up for. I sign up for it willingly.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, yeah. And I don't read the contract. In fact, I'm trying to get with Apple so I can get my own clauses up in there since everybody just signing their life away.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah, that's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

But you didn't read your Apple contract. I also have a clause.

[Melanie Fields]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. And it means that you need to give me your kidney. You should have read it. Yeah. It says here, the longest shining light bulb, she shone shown for 110 years. That's what I'm saying. Wow.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

110 years.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they should technically outlive us. Wow.

[Melanie Fields]

Exactly. But instead, you have to buy one every couple months.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is trash.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yeah, it's trash.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, we had a listener write in, guys, if you have a scam that you've currently been duped with, I'm so sorry, I will laugh, but please share it with me. Or if you are running a scam that you've retired, like I say, I don't want to fuck your bag up. Email [e-mail] Today's listener letter comes from Roddy Ricch. That's a fake name. If y' all know, you know the box. Y' all know who Roddy Rich is? No, I just hit a lick in the box. I just. Okay, well, he currently has the album that is like, competing with Selena Gomez is rare to be number one. So it's on top. And like, we're just streaming the box. We're streaming the box all day for. For racism. JK just Selena's not a racist. But we still streaming the box.

[Laura Chen]

Just kidding.

[Lacey Mosley]

Selena's not a racist. Well, as far as we know now.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

As of right now, today. But by the time this airs, she might be.

[Lacey Mosley]

They might dig up a blog. Honey, that's how they got Camilla Cabello. She had a racism blog.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

What was her blog? What did she say?

[Melanie Fields]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, sis, it was so long and full of so many racisms.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, really, who's she racist against? Everybody.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, mostly black and brown people and Asian people.

[Melanie Fields]

I'm on it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm on it. Okay, hold on. Let me see if I can pull it up real quick.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, I'm Googling as We speak on my app.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

She had a blog that she forgot to take down where she would go on racist rants.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, when I say sis was out here, like, if you were looking for a blog on Tumblr for racism, specifically, like, you would go to her. You'd be like, no, she's the biggest in the game. Like, you need those racist memes.

[Melanie Fields]

It was a Tumblr.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Oh, no. Tumblr blog. Oh, no.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

But why she had to share her racist thoughts. She was trying to get friends together.

[Lacey Mosley]

Kamia Cabello was working overtime for racism. I was like, girl, sis, you should took a break. Like, this is you working too hard.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

A full singing career too. That's like a lot. That's a full schedule.

[Lacey Mosley]

But the Twitter gangsters, they have.

[Patty Guggenheim]

And she goes to movies of the Grove.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I saw her there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh. So her blog was called John316 on Tumblr and she was retweeting things or reblogging things, like these buckets of chicken, these little Negroes.

[Melanie Fields]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Watermelons. Watermelons. But that was just where it began. Watermelon. But what is it?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Just a.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is a photo of a white woman playing basketball holding some chicken. And then there's a black woman who's also playing basketball behind her, who really wants the chicken.

[Melanie Fields]

Of course she does.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Replaced the chicken with the basketball with a chicken. Wait, a seatbelt.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I wanna know if she did the Photoshopping of that.

[Lacey Mosley]

If she did that, I would respect it more. Here's one that was like a little black baby in pink. That's supposed to say piglet, but it says niglet. Okay. Yeah. It goes on forever. There's tons of things.

[Melanie Fields]

Her apology that she issued was like, says that she was 16. She was younger and ignorant at the time, and now it says, I'm 22. Now I'm an adult, and I've grown.

[Lacey Mosley]

And learned in six years. She got a black friend named Normani.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, no, this is only six years.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. I mean, this is. Remember Temple Run? This is Run, Nigga Run.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

When I tell you it goes on forever.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, and it's still up?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no, it's not up, but there's a screenshots. Twitter is very petty, so someone screenshot her whole thing before she could take it down, and they went to town.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Was there anything else on the Tumblr or was it just, like, her brand of racist humor?

[Lacey Mosley]

It was some Bible quotes.

[Melanie Fields]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Lacey Mosley]

Bible quotes.

[Patty Guggenheim]

But what does it have to do with John 3:16.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, which, if I'm not mistaken, is about, like, love the neighbor or something. No, it's like God loved his. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. Ooh, I'm going to hell.

[Melanie Fields]

Don't worry, I'm googling it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm pretty sure that's it.

[Patty Guggenheim]

But, like, how are you?

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, I was brought up in the church. If I got that wrong, it's bad.

[Patty Guggenheim]

John 3:16.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a very popular book.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Using that whole page to bash people.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is that what it is? That's what it is, right?

[Melanie Fields]

May I?

[Patty Guggenheim]

I have to return.

[Melanie Fields]

I never bought that he gave his only begotten son, you know, that whoever believes in him should not perish.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

But Lacey's going to heaven.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, church is a scam that I participate in. Jesus is like. I look at religion like the casino biggest scam. Yeah. So you gotta just put your money on everything. You know what I mean? Like, if I go to heaven and ain't no Jesus, you know, I was always rocking with the Judaism, you know what I mean? So I believed in God, and I got a little money on Jesus, you know? Got a little money in there.

[Melanie Fields]

Krishna, I think you gotta put it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you gotta put it everywhere.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You gotta spread it a little wider than investments. Buddha, Scientology.

[Lacey Mosley]

See, I don't know about the science guy. They too new. Muhammad means God. Allah. Or not Muhammad, but Allah means God.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Little money.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm in there. Little money.

[Melanie Fields]

I agree.

[Lacey Mosley]

Whatever happens, I'm ready. I'll play for all sides. I got all jerseys.

[Melanie Fields]

What a scam.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I do that too, because I'm a Jew and a. Oh, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I marry and you have a Christmas tree. You get a Christmas tree, and I.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Get a Christmas tree. And I went to youth group church.

[Melanie Fields]

Stuff all the time about how, like, a Christian would be if they, like, did all this stuff, then they died. They went to the pearly gates and they, like, walked up to the pearly gates and it's like, Jesus just isn't there. And it's like Muhammad or, you know, whoever else. So when you chose wrong.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's like, well, that sucks.

[Lacey Mosley]

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[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, do people not like tangents?

[Lacey Mosley]

Some people don't like tangents.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

They, like, stick to their. I'm here for the scams.

[Lacey Mosley]

But the scam is. Is y' all go hear whatever I say. Y' all go hear. So this comes from Roddy Ricch. We're calling him hi Scam Gotti. Please don't use my real name or any real names from this. I love it. I love the beginning of an email that starts like that. Anonymity. I want to warn your viewers. Oh, viewers. Yes, honey. I guess some people could be watching this about a scam I nearly fell for. But thanks to your podcast, I was on high alert for scams anyways. Oh, wonderful, boo. I'm glad, but you need to participate in my scams. Okay, I'm gonna link you after this. So attach the screenshot from the email. So he sent some screenshots as well. So it says, I'm a teacher at a free paying school. And on our last day of school, I was teaching when I received an email, seemingly from the principal. And then I read through the messages. I'll show those later. So I was slowly starting to freak out and wonder how I was going to be able to help this person. But then they had a typo and five Amazon. Then they went, one typo and five Amazon vouchers too far. Yeah, this sounds sus. So at Christmas time in schools, you'll often get people getting prizes for hard work, et cetera. And his request was to buy something for someone. And it initially sounded plausible. But as the typos and desperation slowly started to build up, I realized I was a mark. The scammer has searched our school's principal's name and found our staff email addresses, made a fake gmail with the principal's name, and emailed the staff. If only they had dedicated more time to Learning basic English. I could have been fooled out of $500.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

He said. I have to say, I admire their dedication, and I believe one day they will achieve.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, that is so nice. I hope scammer's listening.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's so ironic that it's for a school.

[Melanie Fields]

Yeah. Like free paying school. Which I would love to be someone to understand what that means.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, free paying.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Like public. Yeah, yeah.

[Melanie Fields]

But you understand that they mean public.

[Lacey Mosley]

Paying because, like, free from paying.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, free from paying.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So private schools you pay, but public schools you don't. Yeah, that's what I'm assuming. Maybe they're in a different country, but wow. I love that they're like, I admire this person, though. They just need to work a little harder, get their Grammarly up. Get on Grammarly, bruh. You know what I mean?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I think that's because of you, Lacey, because I think what you're doing is you're, like, shining a light on scams, but also you love a scammer. So that person's gonna be, like, giving them some hot tips. Upset, but also, like, loving at the end.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. Also, like, thank you for targeting me. I just feel honored. So he said, I wanted to share this to prevent the similar con on the congregation. So they share some emails. This one email says, so basically you reached out to them and was like, hey, I'm in a meeting now. That's why I'm contacting you through here. Phones are not allowed to be used during the meeting. I don't know when the meeting will be rounding up. And I wanted you to help me out on something very important right away. Can you.

[Patty Guggenheim]

During the meeting.

[Lacey Mosley]

And also the meeting will be round. I guess people say rounding up, he means wrapping up. Yeah. This language, it feels like English is not this person's first language.

[Melanie Fields]

I would agree. And the word meeting happened about six times. Yeah, the meeting. I'm in a meeting. That's why I kept.

[Lacey Mosley]

You are not in a meeting.

[Melanie Fields]

There's no meeting happening.

[Lacey Mosley]

There's a meeting in my bed.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Is that Roddy Rich? No, no, I know that.

[Lacey Mosley]

And listen, you don't need but one person to have a meeting. I know, right? I'm here meeting. You know what I mean? We're having a meeting right now.

[Melanie Fields]

Technically, we are meeting.

[Lacey Mosley]

What is a meeting? So the amount I want is $100 each in five pieces. So that will make a total of $500.

[Melanie Fields]

This is not right. This is written so weird.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I love that this person's like, thanks to your podcast. I was Able to suss out that.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is a scam. Yeah, bruh, you should have known what he said.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It's written by a Martian.

[Lacey Mosley]

$100 each in five pieces.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Human money.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Give me some human green. Tinder. Legal Tinder.

[Melanie Fields]

It's insane.

[Lacey Mosley]

The language is. Yeah. Very bizarre. And in return. And I'll return you the money back to you. And I will return you the money back to you. Good. You know where the money's gonna go?

[Melanie Fields]

The principal.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's gonna be returned to me. And also back to me.

[Melanie Fields]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just in case I was wondering. He said I need physical cards, which you are going to get from the store. When you get them, just scratch it, take a picture of them and send it to me with the recipe. Okay. The recipe.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Are they cooking them up?

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

What is it? Sir, this is not a grand.

[Melanie Fields]

That one sentence sounded like a ransom note. Like, you are going to go to the store and get me five.

[Lacey Mosley]

Also, like, this is still a question, right? I haven't agree.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Have you guys gotten the one? The email that's like, I know your password. Have you guys gotten this one?

[Patty Guggenheim]

No.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay, this is chilling. I got an email, so I'm not gonna tell you guys the password, but there's a password that I've used for a while.

[Lacey Mosley]

Tell us the password so we know it's real.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I've used for a really long time. Let's say the password is like, Sarah 20. Write it down. Yeah. So I get an email and it's like, in the subject is, I know your password is sarah20. And I was like, oh, God, like, what? That's so shady and terrible. And it's my password to, like, a lot of things as everyone's password is. So I click on it and it's like. It's like you've been using your password for naughty things, haven't you? We have you on your. Your computer's camera doing naughty things. And I don't, like, watch porn. I'm like, I don't watch. I'm not a porn person. No judgment. I'm just not. So I immediately was like, this is amazing because it's just not real. But yeah, it was like, we have video footage of you, like, pleasuring yourself in naughty ways on your computer because we've hacked your computer and we know that you use this password for all of your dirty websites or whatever. And it was like, if you don't send us money, we're gonna send everyone, you know, all the recordings we have of you doing these things.

[Melanie Fields]

But it knew your damn password.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

But it knew my password. So it has hacked into something that I had logged into with my email address and that password. And they send you.

[Patty Guggenheim]

That worked for every single other person.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Every single other person that jerks off on their computer sent them 500 doll or whatever they asked for.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, come on. We're not watching porn on our computers anymore. We watch it on our phone. Private pranks.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Grow up. I'm on my phone.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, but like.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah, but it was really, like, creepy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Also, the crazy thing about that is there's two things. So one, this is a very common scam that people will do, but, like the kind of like, blackmail thing, it's been happening a lot on Tinder. We talk about it on the show here. But also what's funny to me is, like, if I were to watch porn on my computer, I'm not sitting in front of the computer, directly in front of the camera. Like, I'm a only fan star. Like, you gonna catch me, what, in the middle of the night with the blanket moving up and down and me just like, my face is all like. Like, it's like.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

And now like, my tits are out and I'm pinching my own nipples and.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, it's not open. Nothing selects.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

My legs are up over the computer.

[Lacey Mosley]

If anything, it's sad. Yeah, just tired, lazy.

[Patty Guggenheim]

That's what you don't want released.

[Lacey Mosley]

You don't want the sex family guy in the background. It's so sad.

[Laura Chen]

Tired.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Lacey just momentarily crosses her eyes while.

[Lacey Mosley]

She comes and goes to sleep.

[Melanie Fields]

I don't have any fear about that stuff anymore. Cause I'm always like, if my nudes get leaked, I'll be like, well, the sexual, like, liberation movement. I'm just like, yeah, shame your doing our thing. Like, whatever.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is it sad that I'm not worried about nudes getting leaked? Not because of that. I don't take nudes because I'm trying to sell these titties monsters ball style.

[Melanie Fields]

Do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not gonna get as much as Halle, but, you know, let me get a little something for a titties.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You'll get a thousand. Is that gonna be all of us?

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow, that's.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I give you a thousand right now. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's low, Laura. That's too low. I want more than that. But yeah, I'm not worried.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, you're smart. You save em. You save them for the cast.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but it's not for a moral thing. It's not. Cause I'm like, oh, if you take a nude, that's like your body is a temple. No, it' like, I'm trying to sell these titties, trying to get money for this.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I'll pay you $2,000 right now.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Who is that guy?

[Lacey Mosley]

Who is that guy?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

How did he get in here?

[Lacey Mosley]

Who is that guy and how did he get in here?

[Melanie Fields]

Take your sir.

[Lacey Mosley]

Especially if you ask like that. Patty. So back to this scam. So this language is completely insane, Roddy. So that should have been definitely your first tip, but I'm glad you wisened up. So he said, let. So he said, scratch away the recipe. So this is something that's been happening online where people say, like, if you see any advertisements online to be an online shopper or to work from home, be very cautious, because they're normally a scam. Although online, like, because, like, people will be like, online secret shoppers. That's not a real job. People have, like, internal auditing for that. Now there are secret shoppers that go to restaurants and go to places in person and have little cue cards and write people up, and they work for corporations. However, this isn't the same thing, but those same scammers were doing this, where they would be like, hey, go buy this Walmart gift card. You're gonna secret shop at Walmart. But when you buy the gift card, scratch off the bag so that I can get the serial number and take a picture of it, and then I can use the gift card online, steal all the money out of it, and then your gift card's worthless. So that's what this person was trying to get this teacher to do.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, okay.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I didn't understand, but they were so assertive.

[Patty Guggenheim]

They're like, you're gonna go.

[Melanie Fields]

Yeah, it sounds like a ransom.

[Lacey Mosley]

You're gonna go to the store.

[Melanie Fields]

Step one, you're gonna go to the store. You're gonna buy this.

[Patty Guggenheim]

People get there and they're like, oh, I'm on a mission. Are they excited?

[Melanie Fields]

I don't get it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he says, send him the. But he calls it the recipe, which is fascinating.

[Melanie Fields]

Really?

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's so good.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a barcode and a number, a serial number. He said, the recipe may. He was being tricky there. He was like, maybe if I don't say barcode, he won't know I'm stealing it. I'll call it the recipe.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I would have had to have written him back and been like, I want to help you, but I don't know what you're trying to say.

[Lacey Mosley]

You would have needed more Clarification.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I can't help you unless I know what this recipe is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let me know if you can help me with that amount. Right away. Plus, I will get the cards from you after the meeting. Remember, he wasn't a meeting.

[Melanie Fields]

Ding, ding, ding.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I need the pictures first as an email attachment. Okay. Mm. So he's pretending to be this person's boss, right? Cause he hacked. He hacked in, found out the principal's name, and then made a separate Gmail account that isn't the school's account. Ooh, that's fine. And then his meeting excuse was because, why wouldn't you email me from your principalateverschool district.com? he's like, I'm in a meeting right now. I can't use my computer, so I have to email you from my phone, which don't make no sense either.

[Melanie Fields]

And the gift is so, like, there's time sensitive. I need to send it right right.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Now imagine the other people in that meeting. They're like, can you get off your phones also? Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

You could have just got on your computer if you was gonna be typing this email on your phone.

[Melanie Fields]

Lacy says that's important for scams time sensitivity.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, guys, watch out if anybody's sending you anything. Here's the number one warning for a scam. If somebody's requesting money from you, that's already sus. Right. The other thing is if they're giving you lots of excuses when you haven't asked any questions. Anytime somebody gives you an answer to a question, you ask up front, something is off.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Guys do that. When you date guys, they do that right away. They're like, I'm the kind of guy who does all these great things.

[Melanie Fields]

And you're like, you know what that sounds like?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I didn't ask you.

[Lacey Mosley]

I went sussed out. I think. I don't know if I've mentioned on this podcast. I think I have, but, like, I sussed out that a guy had, like, really, really bad credit and was living with a family and, like, was super broke, but was driving a Mercedes. And I literally just sussed it out from just asking, like, lots of little tiny questions that I would piece together to another question that was segue. I was like, oh, that's a really nice car. I've been thinking about getting a new car. Are the payments crazy? And he was like, yeah, they're a little high. I was like, oh, is your credit bad? And he was like, oh, you know, I had, like, a payday loan. I was like, oh, yeah, those are really Tanky. Yeah. And I was like, oh, so where.

[Melanie Fields]

Are you living right now?

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, I just, like, pieced it all together to. This man was probably gonna try to ruin my credit and live within me immediately, you know? Homosexuals.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Some people get into relationships because they need a place to live. So he felt like he was gonna show me the car and then be like, oh, can I stay tonight? And, you know, probably have some really bomb dick. And then next thing I know, I'm living with somebody and you're like.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Which, like, isn't bad if the dick is bomb.

[Melanie Fields]

You know, if the dick is bomb.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know. I don't know if bomb dick's worth enough to just be living in my house.

[Melanie Fields]

You're like, I have my. I have my porn on my computer underneath and my family guy in the background. I don't need the bomb dick. I'd rather have my money and my porn.

[Lacey Mosley]

I got everything I need. A blanket, a computer, and family guy. The blanket.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Always jerking off under the blanket. Lacy, of course I'm never sleeping at your house, girl.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm like, you want a blanket? No, thank you. I would never give you my jerk it blanket.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Your squirt blanket.

[Lacey Mosley]

Robbery.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

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[Unidentified Female Guest]

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Lacey Mosley]

All right, guys. And we're back. And it's time for my favorite segment, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where I will regale the Florida girls with a very infamous con, and we'll get their opinions on this one. This one is very near and dear to my heart. It is from Texas.

[Melanie Fields]

Whoa.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. My man's name is Sandy Jenkins.

[Melanie Fields]

Sounds like a scam already.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, and very Texas Y, which I truly adore. So Sandy is gonna run a con at a bakery, honey. And it sounds basic, but it's. It gets very crazy. So Sandy moves to Corsicana, right?

[Melanie Fields]

Ooh, Corsicana. Mm, I know Corsicana.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wait, have you been watching cheer?

[Melanie Fields]

Cause everyone's been watching cheer. What up, Corsicana?

[Lacey Mosley]

And there's gonna be some cheer ties in here.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, there's a big bakery in Corsicana.

[Lacey Mosley]

And this is the fruit. The fruitcake. This is the one room with the fruitcake. Okay. Yes. So Sandy starts working at this bakery, and he works for Bob's dad. His name is Bill McNult. So Bill McNult has been in the bakery business, honey, Collecting coins for a while. Like, this Bakery opened in 19. They bought it from this German guy, and then they realized that fruitcakes are very special, and this is why. So it has more salts in it than the average cake. And that salt acts as a natural preservative, so fruitcakes practically never go bad.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

What other food on earth can you, like, say that about? Right?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Twinkies.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep. Yum.

[Melanie Fields]

Salt up in there.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they transformed the original recipe, which they purchased from the German guy who owned the bakery in 1940, into this glossy ring that was so strikingly complex that soon everybody in the world wanted one. Yes. So the fruitcake shelf life meant that the bakery could ship anywhere. Right. And McQuee, who is the other business partner. So there's McNulty, or not McNulty, but McNult and McWee.

[Melanie Fields]

There's some Irish.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're very Irish. McElwee and McNult. Sure. Bill McNulton. God, these names. So they focused on pretty much turning this into a fruitcake mail ordering business. And Bill, who took over the company for his father in 1967, was a mail order pioneer, investing in computerized systems that would allow him to reach people in 196 countries. So this cake is all over the world. Fruitcake and all over the world. Okay. So they even had like high profile clients that they sent them to, like Frank Sinatra, the Queen of Spain, even the president of the Republic of Malacca. I don't know who that is, but apparently they popping. So Sandy joins their business after they decided to expand the Collins Street Bakery, opening storefronts in Waco, Lindale and Greenville. And this is a very important detail because they're expanding. Yeah. They're franchising a little bit. And this is also around the time that Sandy decides that he's going to work for this bakery. And Sandy is like very regular degular schmegular. They talk about him in the article. He's like very basic. Apparently his wife is very fun. Fun and outgoing. It's a small town in Corsicana, so everybody talks. And we'll get to that. But he's like a boring guy who wears boring clothes and he's very quiet. And everybody just that he was just a dry little basic, you know, Sandy was basic.

[Patty Guggenheim]

So he needs something.

[Lacey Mosley]

He needs something. Right. Because you don't notice this guy, right? He's just like, bleh. Yeah, yeah. And that helps if you're a scammer with a forgettable face. And if you don't have a forgettable face, you at least need to have a forgettable name. Sandy, not that forgettable of a name, but his. His old forgettable. Got it? Yes. So Sandy joined this bakery. He performed well. He helped the bakery transition from manual accounting system to a computerized one. And by 2000, he had been promoted to corporate controller. So now he's overseeing the accounting. Right. So Scott, his supervisor was a fellow member of the First Baptist Church, Honey. Who enjoyed Sandy's company and was pleased with the job that Sandy was doing in Jesus name. Okay, okay. Sandy was never late on running the payroll. He was always kept at taxes current. Uncle Sam was not snooping around. The specific task that you gave him, he got done quickly and timely. That's what Scott said. So he was very good at his job.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Right. You have to do that. You have to keep it.

[Melanie Fields]

Keep it tight.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Keep it tight.

[Lacey Mosley]

So by most accountants, like he did okay for himself, like the job. They were raising a daughter. They would contribute to the community. They would make meals for the church, but they weren't considered a part of Corsican Society. High society.

[Melanie Fields]

They were kind of like low ground recluse or.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So like, the real, real Corsicana is old families on that with old cons. Of course. But of course. So they're not a part of this world. Right. Kathy was wearing flip flops in the winter. Yeah. They was just very basic. And there was a Corsicana contra club that is very old and I'm assuming very white, and you could only join when a couple left. So I'm assuming that people probably. Probably stayed until they, like, died.

[Melanie Fields]

Sure. No space for Sandy and his wife.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Sandy probably at the funerals, like, hey.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I can get your spot.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they dead, right? So then we can confirm that. Cause we here. They did the box right there. So can I get that two spots open? How many spots open? So basically when Sandy started being, like, the corporate controller and got like, a higher position, he decided that he wanted to move to an office. They allowed him to move into an office. And because before he was kind of on the parade periphery of this workspace that was just like a bunch of little cubicles in an office. Right. So then they gave Sandy an upgrade when he was the controller, and now his office is. He got a fake lithogram of a Picasso in the office. He spent $1,000 of the bakery's money on an antique wooden desk.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is when I knew my boy Sandy was a scammer. Cause you were basic.

[Melanie Fields]

He likes fine things.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. You like nice shit. He bought a $1,000 desk on corporate dime, and nobody said anything. Like, nobody came by your office like, whoa, Sandy, that's a nice des. Where you get that? Is that in the back? Can I get one from the store?

[Melanie Fields]

Like, Sandy. There's nothing to suspect about Sandy is.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I've never noticed.

[Melanie Fields]

Great ask.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is it Right? So as I've said before, this town is very clicky, like, cliquey. And someone who reported, who, like, was interviewed about this scam, said that, baby, if you get a hangnail, we know about it before dark. That's. And gossiping here. Oh, my God.

[Melanie Fields]

She just fully. I'm assuming it was a woman, because full impression, she fully was like, we. We suck.

[Lacey Mosley]

We are the worst people.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You're mean. That's so funny. Call yourself mean? I'm super mean.

[Lacey Mosley]

Surely, of course. I can't love it.

[Melanie Fields]

Hominis and fruitcakes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow.

[Melanie Fields]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it. I would, like, stand in your truth. Stand in your truth. We are mean.

[Melanie Fields]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mean and gossipy and small.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Mean as the day is long.

[Lacey Mosley]

Honey, I'm obsessed Cause this is where some women said that they had noticed that K was never wearing name brand sandals and she wore them yellow box flip flops. Damn. They were box flip flops.

[Melanie Fields]

What does that mean?

[Lacey Mosley]

So you know when they had a little chunk on them?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Uh huh.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know the flip flops?

[Patty Guggenheim]

Real chunkies.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, yeah, the flip flop. That really describes Britney Spears. Britney Spears walking barefoot into gas station.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Bad ops. Yes.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yeah, chunkies. Got it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Which I love you, Brittany. That's no shade. No, no, that's just. It's just pure imagery, sis. Free Britney. So they said she never even had a tummy tuck or a boob job or new clothes. The shade she had on those Maw Maw clothes.

[Melanie Fields]

She's a maw maw.

[Lacey Mosley]

What are Maw Maw clothes?

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, I know what it is. It's a moo moo.

[Patty Guggenheim]

No, no mama.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's what I was thinking.

[Melanie Fields]

Box flip flops. You know what else? I bet she didn't go to the salon and get those acrylics with the French tips.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, she ain't having in Corsicana. They do like that in Corsicana. They like that in all parts of Texas. My sister is required to have French tip nails for drill team.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

What?

[Melanie Fields]

For school.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's the drill team dress on cheer.

[Melanie Fields]

Had too the girls on cheer had.

[Lacey Mosley]

Those French tips and they always square and real wide. Oh so square.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Used to love French tips. I used to do my own French tips.

[Lacey Mosley]

I still do. This is my rendition of a French tip right now.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It's very chic.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it. So here's the scam. So Sandy considered himself a moral person. This is the person who bought a thousand dollar desk on the company. But somehow he sat at his desk in December, one day in 2004, and he was tempted to do something wrong. He felt he was working the equivalent of three jobs at the bakery. And he was really only compensated for one. How long was he supposed to wait before he could achieve his dreams? What about Sandy?

[Melanie Fields]

Is this from his autobiography?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It's from his autobiography, what About Sandy by Sandy Jenkins.

[Lacey Mosley]

What about Sandy? So he decided to dip into the bakery's petty cash. It wasn't much money in the grand scheme of things, but it kept him on edge, gave him a high. Every time someone stepped into his office, he braced himself for the words, Sandy. Do you know what happened with this money? But no one ever asked. And soon the petty cash. Guess it wasn't enough.

[Melanie Fields]

Mm. Never is.

[Lacey Mosley]

For a few weeks later, on a whim, he. He drove up to the Dallas dealership and bought a gold Lexus sedan with leather interior.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Wait, how do you jump so heavily from pedicure on petty cash?

[Melanie Fields]

You guys, he went into the Lexus dealership with a. With an envelope full of cash. Like, from the petty cash. Sandra was like, my down payment, please.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God, Sandy, you went from getting a Snickers bar and a monster energy drink on the company dime to Alexis. I stand obsessed. So he. It wasn't a huge leap. He says he traded in his old car as a down payment. So he. But he still couldn't afford the payments for this Lexus. But he had a plan. He had been thinking about those bank spaces on the checkbook software.

[Melanie Fields]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. So give me a picture of Sandy right here. The one in the blue with the.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

COVID I love that. Will Ferrell's also.

[Melanie Fields]

Is that his wife? Is that his wife?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It's a good.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's been a project of his for a while.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. There we go.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is Sandy.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I love that everything Is ex fruitcake executive.

[Lacey Mosley]

And this is his wife, who. This is his wife, K. She's gonna come into the mix. So Sandy here, he's wearing designer. Honey, don't be fooled by this basic polo. And also, they're on a pj.

[Melanie Fields]

They're on a jet.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's a PJ that's on a private jet. A private jet, which I call PJs now because I'm willing myself into that lifestyle.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I think you have to be. You have to fly one before you can call it a pj.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know. I think you gotta speak it into existence. The PJ. PJ's on the P. Drag her. PJ's on the PJ.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Is this him, too? Sticky fingers in another PJ right here.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. They. So January 25th, when the credit card payment was. So basically, before I get ahead of myself, he realizes that in the accounting spaces, they have, like, these bank spaces in the checkbook, software that hadn't been used. So January 25, when his credit card payment was due, which is what he put the Lexus on, He typed a $20,000 check made payable to City Card. The software automatically signed the check. Bob McNutt. Now, Bob is one of the owners, right? The software that he has allows him to print out because he does payroll. Right. And Bob signs all the check, but not physically.

[Melanie Fields]

You know, it's that stamp signature.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's that stamp signature. My mom always said, don't be too rich to sign your own checks.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he realized he could use the software to force the signature so that he could pay off his city card. And this is what he started to do. So to cover his tracks, he typed a check the next day payable to a legitimate bakery vendor for the same amount. But then he never mailed that check. Sandy says he doesn't remember where he paid off his new Lexus or the city card. It starts to become a blur. Whoa. So one day, Sandy was sure that nobody had noticed the fraudulent check, so he tried it again and again and again.

[Melanie Fields]

I knew it was coming.

[Lacey Mosley]

And we're jiggling, doing it again. Okay. And each time, Sandy would repeat the same scheme with the fraudulent check and then one legitimate check that he never mailed. That way, if the fraudulent check goes through, he could be like, oh, no, it's supposed to be this one. What happened?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

How'd I get into my Citibank?

[Lacey Mosley]

That's crazy. Who put down my routing number and my account number on here?

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's like the movie Blank check.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep.

[Patty Guggenheim]

He watched it and was like, I'm gonna use my fruitcake biz for this. Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And he wrote a blank check. So before. Before long, my guy Sandy was spending $98,000 a month on his credit card and paying it off with stolen money. They remodeled their kitchen. They started throwing fancy dinner parties and champagne brunches. His wife traded in her flip flops for Louboutin.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yes. Red bottoms.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, no one's making fun of her anymore.

[Lacey Mosley]

No one's giving her anymore.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Did they get into the at work?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah. They gonna get into the country.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Okay, go, go, go.

[Lacey Mosley]

At work, Sandy told people who were admiring his fine clothes that he bought his outfits at Walmart. Though nothing could have been further from the truth, he was actually wearing $600 shirts from Armani and Hermes.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

He's wearing that stuff to work. Sandy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sandy.

[Melanie Fields]

Walmart has Armani now, actually. So that checks out.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like, yeah, this is a Walmart Armani exchange Exchange. This is my exchange rate. Exchange exchange. He said he always loved shoes. So soon, his closets were overflowing with Ferragamo and Gucci. And in 2000, he bought five Rolexes for $52,000, which was roughly his annual salary. Absolutely not. On a trip to Santa Fe, he bought a house for $658,000 in cash on his credit card. Are you. Can you put a house on a credit card?

[Melanie Fields]

I don't know. Apparently you can if you're Sandy Jake.

[Lacey Mosley]

Maybe he started writing some of these checks to himself at cash Because I ain't never been to some. I never heard of that.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

But this fruitcake company must have been raking money.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's a big deal.

[Patty Guggenheim]

A lot of glazed holes, you heard earlier.

[Melanie Fields]

100, 196 countries, and they last forever. They don't ever go bad.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

That's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they're mailing these out like hotcakes. Also. They just expanded their business like fruitcakes.

[Melanie Fields]

They've got franchises.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Claps for that. So they're doing. They're mailing these out like fruitcakes. And remember, at the beginning of this, they had just expanded to three locations.

[Melanie Fields]

Three locations.

[Lacey Mosley]

So when you're expanding, you lose a little bit of money. Right. These are brick and mortar stores. So they're expecting to take a little bit of loss. So he also is coming in a perfect time to start robbing them blind, because they don't necessarily can't count. Oh, my. So the years after writing his fraudulent check, Sandy took 43 private flights at a cost of half a million dollars.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Where's he going?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Is he just vacationing? Is he, like, going for work?

[Lacey Mosley]

So he. So his friends would see him on a PJ because, you know, he was on here. Look at him flexing with his wife.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

Stunting like my dream.

[Patty Guggenheim]

He's channel neck PJ guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. He was up here. Like, it's funny because they still look very corny, but they're, like, in nice clothes. But they're like a very unsuspecting corny couple.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Totally.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he was telling people that this was his cousin's private jet and that his cousin was lending it to him.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

He had no cousin. There was no cousin to be.

[Melanie Fields]

It's never a cousin.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Can I ask real quick? Did the wife. Was she in on this? Like, I'm always interested.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Stressful to be the wife of that.

[Patty Guggenheim]

She's like, why am I getting all this money?

[Lacey Mosley]

I think it's why are we throwing these piss drug money. So remember that K is a scammer, too. Only because, like, remember, she has an outgoing personality that people knew about. She was the life of the party. She was the bubbly one. In the beginning, when he first bought that Lexus with the petty cash, he told her that he had just traded in and that it was a gift from the company he was working for.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

He's scamming his own life.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, he started scamming her, but she gonna get him.

[Patty Guggenheim]

He's just drunk on that adrenaline of, like, you're not bringing it up at work, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And it's almost like he was calling attention to himself. Cuz, like, why are you showing up to work like in mink coats and Gucci and Ferragamo and then you like, oh, no, no, no. These just from the thrift store. Y' all ever been to Corsicana Thrift?

[Melanie Fields]

No. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, why are 2020 Gucci collection?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

The whole point of buying name brand is so other people will be like, wow, you're a somebody, right? Like, that's why you do it. You spend the money so people.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's usually made pretty well.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

The quality's better. I got it. Yeah, it's a flex. It's a flex. And. And so you're gonna like, buy. It's like buying like a Louis Vuitton bag and then like covering the brand and being like, no one can know. Like, you're defeating the purpose.

[Lacey Mosley]

But he knows. And the team that said he's thousand dollars dick just dick hard.

[Melanie Fields]

His dick is hard 100% of the time. He's a boner Dick hard.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Just pressing into his Armani pants all day.

[Melanie Fields]

Pants. Get me off.

[Lacey Mosley]

So to your point, Patty, she didn't know because of the Mercedes or because of the Lexus. But Sandy gets or K gets. She gets hit pretty quickly. So you might be thinking, are there suspicions, right? Like, surely people had to know that Sandy couldn't be making that much money at the bakery. All of a sudden, poof, they didn't had coins. Like, they were getting Lexuses, BMWs, Mercedes Benzes, and they were replacing them at a dizzying pace. And he was telling people, I'm a car trader. I get new cars, but I'm able to flip them. Which makes absolutely no sense because a new. Once you drive a car off the lot, it depreciates immediately. Immediately.

[Melanie Fields]

I do this thing, I flip cars, all right?

[Lacey Mosley]

I buy brand new electric cars.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I fix them up.

[Melanie Fields]

Fix them up.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

A brand new car.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why are you fixing it? What are you fixing it up in?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Undercar lights.

[Melanie Fields]

I give it undercar lights.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. A Florida Girls reference. Finally, undercar lights. So, yeah, exactly. This makes no sense. His wife, K, quits her job. So this is how we know when K is really good.

[Melanie Fields]

I'm good.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's like, I'm good on employment. I no longer need this. And when a friend asked K about a diamond ring that she was wearing that was worth a quarter of a million million, she responded that it was her engagement ring. But the friend was like, that's crazy, because did you have that engagement ring when you was catering my Daughter's wedding.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, Shade.

[Lacey Mosley]

Shade.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

Her friend was like, sis, when you was making hot wings for my family.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

When you were picking up my family's.

[Lacey Mosley]

Dirty napkins in the church cafetorium, you ain't had no 250k ring. Wow.

[Melanie Fields]

Shane.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Another neighbor said, I'm looking at cars that are like $100,000, $200,000, and I'm thinking, damn, he must have won the lottery. Robbery was the furthest thing from anybody's mind.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Wow.

[Melanie Fields]

Gosh.

[Lacey Mosley]

So now we're gonna see how he gets caught.

[Melanie Fields]

Okay.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Please.

[Lacey Mosley]

I can't wait. So the owners of the bakery went year after year wondering why the bakery wasn't making no coins. They couldn't figure it out. Was the company expanding too quickly? People seemed to love the new pecan cakes and the twist on the fruit cake that is bite sized. They say we even making them smaller.

[Melanie Fields]

Should be making more on this.

[Lacey Mosley]

He said, it doesn't make sense. The owners would tell each other, we must be doing something wrong. They finished the fiscal year, and they'd be like, it slipped through our hands again. And some years they could blame the economy like anybody else. And other years, they had no excuse. So they started examining their expenses. The labor, the price of ingredients, even inventorying the ingredients. So now they are accounting for every piece of salt and with grain of sugar.

[Melanie Fields]

And, you know, there's a lot of.

[Lacey Mosley]

Salt in those fruitcake.

[Melanie Fields]

A lot.

[Lacey Mosley]

They were like, is it the salt that's killing us?

[Melanie Fields]

Should we sacrifice the fact that this thing will last for 20 years? Put less salt in it?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Is Sandy like, yeah, we got to figure this out. Is Sandy, like, a part of us?

[Lacey Mosley]

She was heading that.

[Patty Guggenheim]

That's so crazy. She was probably like, you guys, we got it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

We got it. And he definitely would wear the necklaces and rings. And how do we find dripping in.

[Lacey Mosley]

Diamonds, seven Cartier bracelet wearing, where's the money going? Where is it going with a wristful of Cartier? I don't know.

[Melanie Fields]

It's so weird.

[Lacey Mosley]

Y' all check the cherries. Oh, my God.

[Melanie Fields]

Check.

[Lacey Mosley]

Somebody in here eating the damn cherries. That's where it's going, sweetheart. So they do this for years. Couldn't figure out what's going on. Years. Cause Sandy timed the checks well. He knew when the bakery would stock up on ingredients. He knew when they were spending more on postage because they started advertising more. Cause they're like, maybe we just need to get our marketing budget up. So they had this little advertisement advertising thing called Crier Creek Kitchens, which Was like a smaller little company that they would just do a little advertising with or whatever. And Darlene ran Cryer Kitchen.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, I know. Darlene did run it, didn't she?

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. So they said, darlene, we gonna have to cut down on Cry Creek Kitchens, cuz we spending way too much money. And she was like, what are y' all talking about? I ain't spending that much money. I said, Darlene, you spending $23,000 here on this here postage.

[Melanie Fields]

Uh.

[Laura Chen]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

And she said, what? That's crazy. I ain't Never spent no $23,000 on no damn stamps. And the paperwork showed that she had, uh.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Sandy offered to look into it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, look into it.

[Melanie Fields]

Dripping and dying.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Detective Sandy wearing designer.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I'll figure it out.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'll figure it out. And of course, when he reported back, everything seemed to be in order. Of course.

[Melanie Fields]

And they're like, yep, we're not worried about this anymore.

[Lacey Mosley]

Moving on. They let it go. Like, y' all don't know how much stamps cost.

[Melanie Fields]

This is.

[Lacey Mosley]

See, this is a rich people problem. Y' all been rich for too long. If y' all don't know how much a stamp costs.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I know when $5 is missing from my wallet. I'm like, $5 is missing, babe. Like, where did it go?

[Lacey Mosley]

Does she immediately target her husband?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I target my husband immediately. Jared, where's my $5?

[Lacey Mosley]

Where's my $5?

[Melanie Fields]

Dear God.

[Lacey Mosley]

I saw Jared and Laura arguing in the corner.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It was about $5. It's always about $5.

[Lacey Mosley]

Always about five. So they just didn't know what postage? Cotton. Yeah. They just let it go. Then Sandy turns up. You would think, like, they're starting to audit, right? They're starting to count the cherries and the salt. This is where you chill. Sandy turned it up. He's about the bag now.

[Melanie Fields]

He's drooling with his power.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like, I can do anything. Turn my scam on kids.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Does Sandy and Kay have kids?

[Lacey Mosley]

One daughter, but she's, like, college age.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I hope she's, like, living right.

[Lacey Mosley]

I hope she was definitely getting the girl living large. She had the best. Whatever. Texas school flexes. She had all the. Vera Bradley, honey.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Vera Bradley doing it on the girls.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Stripping and veering.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Dooney and Burke, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Coach, Coach, you could never.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Long champ.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yep. She had the long champ.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Long champ.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ugg boot toe was always in an Ugg boot. And a Lululemon legging.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You'll never catch my toes out of an Ugg boot.

[Melanie Fields]

Ugg boots, slippers. Ugg Boot boots.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ugg. Boot socks. Honey, it down to the socks. That's what I'm talking about. So he went hog wild with spending is what they said. So he bought a $7,000 cell phone.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay, wait, the phone.

[Melanie Fields]

This brings us back to Apple.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ah, the scam. Apple. Are y' all. $7,000 a month.

[Melanie Fields]

Bruh?

[Lacey Mosley]

He had a $40,000 horsehair mattress. I don't even know what a horsehair mattress is.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It have mice. It keeps out mites. But wars hair. Seems like it would attract mites.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? They're like he had a $50,000 Steinway.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, piano.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes.

[Melanie Fields]

Does he play?

[Lacey Mosley]

Which he does play.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay.

[Patty Guggenheim]

So talented.

[Lacey Mosley]

And he. He even inquired about investing in a funeral home, which. That's big business. People always dying. That's what you gotta do. Now we're gonna run out of clients.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

That's smart.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he eventually indulged in the. The hobby of the truly wealthy. Philanthropy. And you know where he bought a table? The Navarro College fundraiser. Oh, Cheer.

[Melanie Fields]

Cheer Navarro.

[Lacey Mosley]

So if you watching Cheer Navarro on Netflix, honey, Sandy bought at least a couple of them uniforms.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, for sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

One or two of them mats.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I hope he did more than that stolen ass money.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, now I'm on the side. She's helping the cheerleader.

[Lacey Mosley]

He helps the cheerleader.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I've been on. Weirdly, I've been on K's side since moment one. The moment you were like, she got made fun of for being poor. I'm like, I'm on her side. I want her to take down this whole town.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

And she did. For a moment. So here's where the issue comes into play. The company hires a new accountant. Oh, why?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

They fired him?

[Lacey Mosley]

No. Now, this is somebody under my man Sandy. Okay, but this is fresh eyes.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you know what? Accounting is a hater profession. Your whole job just crunching little numbers and being petty.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know what I mean. So they get horned for something.

[Melanie Fields]

Penny for.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, right. Exactly. Every penny must be accounted for. Serial number and all. So he's a new hiring accountant. Got fresh eyes. And he started to look at things and he's saying, hmm. And he's scratching his chin.

[Melanie Fields]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's rubbing his temples.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Things aren't adding up, Sandy.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

So I can't believe it took him longer than 14 minutes. Right, it took him longer than 14 minutes to figure this out. He's not a good accounting.

[Lacey Mosley]

He finds a check made out to capital. And the accountant, who is a woman, says that she knew the bank or the bakery did not have any Accounts or credit cards with a capital one, not ner. Okay. So she pulls up to Sandy's office, sits down at his thousand dollar desk, and she says, sandy, there's a discrepancy with this check. Can you help me understand this?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Sandy's getting like a six hand massage.

[Melanie Fields]

His dick is still hard to. Under the desk.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can I help you?

[Patty Guggenheim]

Can I help you? There's so many people under his desk just working.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sandy tries to remain calm. He's like, I'll fix it. He told her, hoping his panic wasn't showing. But, honey, the panic was showing. And my girl, the accountant, she knew, she sniffed it. Ms. Symmetric. This piqued her interest. That's her last name, Symmetric, which sounds like an account.

[Melanie Fields]

Like, that means you were born to account.

[Lacey Mosley]

You came out the womb and you were saying, how much did this birth cost?

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yep.

[Melanie Fields]

I need some metrics on this.

[Lacey Mosley]

I need some metrics on this. On this birth.

[Melanie Fields]

Symmetrics. Sorry.

[Lacey Mosley]

So she didn't want to flag the check just yet because Scott and the other owner spent a lot of time with the Jenkins. You know what I mean? They homies now.

[Melanie Fields]

They're friends.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So she was like, not trying to blow up the spot. And she's new to the job. She just got there, so she ain't trying to. She's in a tough spot.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, exactly. And she's a woman. And you know when you a woman, you gotta walk a tight line.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You gotta keep your mouth shut. Keep your mouth shut when you're a woman.

[Lacey Mosley]

So you gotta keep it shut. Exactly.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Shut it up.

[Lacey Mosley]

So she goes back and she quickly finds 11 discrepancies around $400,000.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Melanie Fields]

Quickly, quickly. 14 minutes later.

[Lacey Mosley]

14 minutes later.

[Melanie Fields]

So fast.

[Lacey Mosley]

She clicked on one link and was.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Like, oh, you're being robbed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Discrepancies.

[Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's like, galore.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

You're being very robbed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Robbery, fraud. She's just scrolling like robbery. Farrah Chicano.

[Melanie Fields]

She's to the inventory. She's like, cherries, sugar, salt. Robbery, fraud.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, I found it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I found it.

[Melanie Fields]

Oh, postage fraud.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So. Oh, man. Then she sends an email and she says it looks like Sandy Jenkins has been embezzling money.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, she sent emails.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I love that.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

She's like, brave. Not that brave.

[Lacey Mosley]

No urgency.

[Melanie Fields]

Subjects, like, when you get a chance.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah, I'm in a meeting right now and I have to.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm. She's like, hey, guys, comma, hope you had a great weekend. It looks like Sandy hasn't been messing with money. Bob responds to the email. And he says, well, that explains a lot. Poor.

[Melanie Fields]

He's like, we've been losing money since Sandy came into this business.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, Mac, not.

[Lacey Mosley]

And he's constantly engaging. We pay him $50,000 a year. So Sandy arrives at work and Scott asks him to come into the executive and shows him copies of the voided checks. And he says, tell us what these are. And Sandy pretended for a moment that he had done nothing wrong. He looks over the checks. He shrugs and says, well, I don't know. Which truly fueled Scott's anger, prompting him to ask Sandy pointedly, did you write these checks? And Sandy says, I only write checks for the bakery.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Okay.

[Melanie Fields]

Is he lying?

[Lacey Mosley]

Technically.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

So what happens? Does he get their money?

[Melanie Fields]

Half expecting the guy to go, okay, Sandy, we trust you. Go ahead. I know it must be a cherries.

[Lacey Mosley]

20 years later, right? 20 years later when Sandy dies. No.

[Melanie Fields]

Do you mind flipping my car?

[Lacey Mosley]

I hear you do car flips. So they fire Sandy. Oh, man. And Sandy says that he was relieved to get fired cause he just wanted to get out of there. The tensions was high. Oh, my God. He's blaming him.

[Melanie Fields]

Poor Sandy.

[Lacey Mosley]

The work environment was so stressful.

[Patty Guggenheim]

The conditions.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Sandy has stolen from the bakery an amount totaling $114,000 in cash and $16,649,786.91 in checks.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

How and over how long a period?

[Patty Guggenheim]

How many fruitcakes?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

That's $16 million, I believe. Floored.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm so proud of Sandy. 16 mil, bruh. If you had just stolen maybe like 2 mil, you probably would have been Gucci.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

60.

[Patty Guggenheim]

You stole all they profits drunk with it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It got to the point where the company was like, we are no longer making profits. And he was like, I'm still going to keep stealing.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like, damn, we ain't making.

[Melanie Fields]

I'm just looking up real quick how much of the cake cost from this.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It's got to be like $10.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Amazing.

[Lacey Mosley]

So now was his time to move. He raced home, grabbed two grocery bags from the kitchen, and ran from room to room, tossing handfuls of valuables inside. Watches, jewelry, gold bars.

[Melanie Fields]

He's a gold bar.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

He's a cartoon duck. Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Making sure to check the air vents where he had stashed some of the jewels. Then he and Kay got in one of their cars and they drove to Austin, where their daughter was living, and stored the bags and safe before taking off to Santa Fe to regroup. What do criminals do? Where do they hide their money? Should he bury it? Somewhere put it in an offshore account around the time. This time the FBI has been tipped off. I hope they emailed the FBI and.

[Melanie Fields]

Were like, hey, when you get a chance.

[Lacey Mosley]

When you get a chance. We have been embezzled from.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

These people are so casual, so Southern casual too casual.

[Lacey Mosley]

About 16 mil.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I've been robbed for $16 million. Take your time.

[Lacey Mosley]

Whenever you get as gun happy as Texans are, I cannot believe that this just ended well. All right, we're gonna need you clean out your desk. Sandy.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yeah, no, just fired.

[Lacey Mosley]

And leave your badge and your keys.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

We will give you two weeks notice. Cause we're not monsters.

[Melanie Fields]

And severance.

[Lacey Mosley]

But severance. Sandy files for unemployment. Jesus.

[Melanie Fields]

He gets it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Jesus.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the FBI team was searching the house in Corsicana and noted that they were on the move to Austin. So they have all these, these bags, right, of gold and gold bars and jewelry and they put them. He drives down to Lady Bird Lake, the edge of downtown. And with bag in hand, he walks to a secluded band, hoping he wouldn't be interrupted by some stroller pushing, power walking, busy body. And he begins scattering treasures behind trees, bushes and rocks. One might say he hit them like eggs at.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Wow, this is like Madman, Madman world.

[Lacey Mosley]

It made him cringe to think about a dog peeing on his twenty five thousand dollar Pataic Philippy Aquanaut watch.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh my God.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

This man is insane.

[Lacey Mosley]

His $22,000 Ulysses Narden watch or any of the other watches or gold bars he had grabbed on his way out the door. When he ran out of hiding places, he tossed the rest in the lake.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh my God.

[Melanie Fields]

Now he's unhinged. Now he's throwing money away.

[Patty Guggenheim]

I'm not going to.

[Lacey Mosley]

You couldn't dig a hole in your yard or something? You got. You threw it. Everything in the though.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I wonder if it's still in the lake.

[Lacey Mosley]

We need to go dive. I'm so mad at you.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Can we all go diving this weekend?

[Melanie Fields]

He worked so hard for that money and honestly, he just threw it in a lake.

[Lacey Mosley]

He stole so hard for that money he panicked. So not long after this, the officers, an officer from the University of Texas stumbled upon a quarter million dollars in jewelry and gold bars.

[Melanie Fields]

The gold bars are getting me every time.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know, it's very funny. It's very cartoonish, as Laura said. So in the weeks that follow, this is. They still haven't been like charged yet. So he. So Sandy on August 12, was indicted by the FBI on accounts of mail fraud, money laundering and other related offenses. He perpetrated along the way. In the same weeks that followed, K was telling people around town that she knew nothing about Sandy's scheme. And she was as surprised as anybody else. She said, I can't. I can just live my life and let him take the rat.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh my God. So she. So she was expecting them to believe that she thought he was living this lifestyle with their salary. Yes, that she was like, I had no idea. I thought he got a huge raise.

[Lacey Mosley]

I thought he got a raise of $16 million. From 50,000. From 50,000.

[Melanie Fields]

And they paid him in gold bars.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was weird, but I was like, okay. So she said she didn't realize that her reputation had lost his sheen. And one day in March 2014. So now we're in 2014 when all of this is falling apart. Right. When she was indicted on similar charges to Sandy, she had called a few million, a few members of cotillion in tears, asking if they would be okay with her attending an upcoming book club event.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

This. These poor people. Hey, y', all, it's me, K. We can I come down to the book club event this week?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Oh my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

We're reading Fifty Shades, right? I read all of it.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

No, but these people are. They're self proclaimed and they're like, no.

[Melanie Fields]

So they're like, you might have more. You might have got rid of those square flops, but you're not welcome here.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Bring me over there. Fruitcake cash.

[Lacey Mosley]

Fruitcake cash, yes. So this all falls apart. She ends up getting five years of probation. And Sandy, my boy, he gets 10 years of jail.

[Melanie Fields]

Okay, is he in there now?

[Lacey Mosley]

So this was in 2014, so.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, he's got four more years.

[Lacey Mosley]

But also like, I never like how rich people crimes always equate to the same as like murder. I know, like also in Texas, Amber Geiger. I say this all the time. Went down for 10 years for shooting somebody in their own home.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

That's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

And this man got 10 years for robbing a bakery for years. Not the same. No, like I think he should have been. So they had an auction. Fun fact. And I'll just tell you some of the things that were in the auction of.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I'm sorry, so the bakery had an auction. So they get some of their money back. Is that the idea? So, yeah, so they got all the.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Assets and then they could sell.

[Melanie Fields]

Of course they owned them.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they had a state. A sale. State sale. This was March 27, 2014. And everyone in the town circle, gather around. Now here's my thing. Like don't Just get people from Corsicana. Like, you should really invite rich people. Yeah. What you doing? State sale in the town square. The fuck? So There was a $14,000 gold Dunhill lighter multiple. Actually a Cartier silver seal cigarette case, an Atmos clock, boxes of crystal silver designer handbags, wallets, luggage, and briefcases, all by Louis Vuitton, Marc Jacobs, and Balenciaga, along with a frighteningly large collection of Hummel figurines.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, God.

[Melanie Fields]

What are those?

[Patty Guggenheim]

Those are, like, little figurines of, like, people, like, shoveling snow.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

They're like little gross little, like, Precious Moments type things.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Precious moments.

[Lacey Mosley]

What the hell?

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Wow, it gets warm.

[Melanie Fields]

He's like, kay, I got you something special.

[Lacey Mosley]

W. I don't even know what to spend this fucking money on.

[Laura Chen]

Sorry.

[Patty Guggenheim]

If people have Hummel figures out there, I didn't mean to call them grass.

[Melanie Fields]

Well, just so you know, I just looked up Hummel figurines, and there's a Hummel on eBay for $7,000.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, okay.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

So they're expensive.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's insane.

[Patty Guggenheim]

They're glasses.

[Melanie Fields]

But then there's another one for, like, 15 porcelain.

[Lacey Mosley]

But also, it just shows me that, Sandy, you could have chilled on how much you were stealing. You didn't even know what to spend this fucking money on.

[Laura Chen]

Right.

[Melanie Fields]

He became obsessed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Several. 14,000.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I know, I know. It's a sickness. It's a sickness.

[Patty Guggenheim]

It is so sadly a sickness.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

It's terrible.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Just real quick, the guy I went to prom with, his dad was one of these guys, and we had, like, a lavish prom and went to all this stuff. And then years later, we found out he was, like on cnbc, like, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, like, showing all of his cars and houses, and he had this whole top building of this downtown building in Indiana, Indianapolis. And it all crumbled. And people were like, huh? My mom went to college with him, and he was just Ponzi scheme, like, had it going.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Because it is, isn't it?

[Lacey Mosley]

It's like a thing.

[Patty Guggenheim]

When you truly amazing easy.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Like, when you get the money easily, it. Easy come, easy go type thing, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

There's, like, science behind that.

[Lacey Mosley]

And also there's just the addiction of continuing this.

[Melanie Fields]

You get away with it.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Honestly, I think you got a little high after the poster. And he was like, they can't ever catch me again.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

I'm untouchable. Yeah.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Such a high. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

All right, guys. We've reached the end of the show. This was so, so fun. Yay.

[Melanie Fields]

Thanks for having us. Thank you for Doing it.

[Lacey Mosley]

We learned so much. So around the table again, Patty, where can people find you? Where do you want to be found? That's what I asked.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

On my computer.

[Patty Guggenheim]

Video screen? No, I am on Insta and Twitter. Triscuit. Like a Triscuit with a paw in front of it, which was good. And the Groundlings show is opening soon. Friday, Saturday nights, it's called Bar Fight. And then Florida Girl.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Yes, on Pop tv.

[Lacey Mosley]

How about you, Melanie?

[Melanie Fields]

My name's Melanie Field. I can be found on Instagram @melaniefield. And yeah, check out you on Netflix if you haven't seen it. Second season just came out. It's still on. It's great. And Florida girl, Pop TV.

[Lacey Mosley]

And you, Ms. Lara Chen.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

Hi, I'm on Instagram. Laurachin with four N's.

[Melanie Fields]

Chinin.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

Chinin Ninit.

[Unidentified Female Guest]

What else? Oh, I'm Mattucb. I do a show called Outside Dog on Friday nights at 10:30. Come watch. Lacy and I are on Azkat together now. We just started that, so that's gonna be fun. And Florida Girls.

[Laura Chen]

Pop tv.

[Lacey Mosley]

Pop tvtv. And guys, as always, you can email us your scams and retired scams [e-mail] and you can find us @scamgodesspod on Instagram and on Twitter. And you can find me at D I V A L A C I Diva Lacey on all platforms. All right, congregation, Stay scheming. Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz and researched by Kalen Brandt. Stay scheming.

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