Fraud Friday: The Heartbreak Hustler w/ Dexter Mayfield

Summary

Scam Goddess Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Fraud Friday: The Heartbreak Hustler
Host: Laci Mosley (AKA Scam Goddess)
Guest: Dexter Mayfield
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Platform: Earwolf & SiriusXM Podcasts+

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Introduction and Guest Appearance [00:16 – 04:14]

Hosted by Laci Mosley, the Scam Goddess welcomes listeners to another exciting installment of Fraud Friday, a segment where older episodes are revisited and shared with new audiences. In this episode, Laci is joined by the multifaceted entertainer Dexter Mayfield, a dancer, model, and actor known for his appearances in Taylor Swift's music video "You Need to Calm Down" and Savage x Fenty's Volume 2 fashion show.

Laci enthusiastically introduces Dexter, highlighting his recent accomplishments:

Laci Mosley [02:43]: "Congregation, please welcome Dexter Mayfield."

Dexter responds warmly:

Dexter Mayfield [02:43]: "Dexter, thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad you're here."

The duo engages in playful banter about accents and their meeting at a premiere for HBO Max’s show "We Are Here," appreciating the vibrant community and the importance of representation.

Navigating Petty Confrontations with Kindness [04:14 – 16:32]

Laci and Dexter delve into personal anecdotes about dealing with petty individuals and confrontations. They emphasize the power of kindness in disarming hostility, sharing moments where security guards falsely accused Laci of wrongdoing at a premiere.

Dexter Mayfield [12:12]: "She made that shit up. And I was dying because I was."

Laci Mosley [12:22]: "You deserve to get mad. You cannot get mad because that's only gonna make the situation like, situation worse."

They discuss strategies for handling unwarranted accusations, such as maintaining composure and offering genuine apologies to diffuse tension. Dexter adds his own experiences, reinforcing the notion that kindness can turn hostile interactions around.

First Segment: What's Hot and Fraud – Listener Story [25:35 – 32:57]

The "What's Hot and Fraud" segment features a listener letter from a pseudonymous individual, Kiki, who recounts a deceptive scam involving a food truck selling irresistible brisket fries at her university. Kiki's friend experienced unauthorized $50 purchases at Walmart following their visit to the food truck, leading them to realize they were targets of credit card fraud.

Laci Mosley [26:10]: "Kiki says, I'm going to read this. I don't normally read stuff at the top, but hello."

Kiki's story illustrates the allure of delicious food as a front for financial scams, highlighting the importance of vigilance when making transactions. Laci passionately shares her own experiences with similar scams, emphasizing the necessity of safeguarding personal financial information.

Second Segment: Historic Hoodwinks – The Story of Dana Lawrence [36:00 – 58:19]

In the "Historic Hoodwinks" segment, Laci and Dexter explore the intricate and manipulative career of Dana Lawrence, a notorious con artist known by over a dozen aliases across sixteen states. Dana's modus operandi involves seducing men to extract money while leveraging her roles as a mother to maintain empathy and trust.

Key Highlights:

• Early Scams: Dana's initial cons began in 1996 with a wealthy student named Chris, whom she stalked and harassed after their relationship dissolved.
• Expansion of Frauds: Moving from city to city, Dana employed tactics like fake nonprofit organizations to siphon funds from unsuspecting victims.
• Family Exploitation: Dana had four children with different fathers, using her maternal role to garner sympathy and manipulate her targets.
• Downfall: In 2021, during the COVID-19 pandemic, Dana's fraudulent activities escalated. Her final attempt involved posing as a grant writer for Nashua, NH, leading to her arrest and subsequent sentencing for grand larceny.

Laci Mosley [37:02]: "She was putting her children in tow. Over the course of her career, she swindled tens of thousands of dollars from unwitting victims."

Dana's story underscores the complexity and emotional manipulation involved in sophisticated scams, offering listeners a deep dive into how personal relationships are exploited for financial gain.

Third Segment: Scammer of the Week – Valkyrie Skincare Scam [58:22 – 73:02]

The "Scammer of the Week" spotlight shines on Valkyrie, a YouTube streamer who launched a dubious skincare line promising protection against blue light pollution for gamers. Despite initial enthusiasm, the product failed to deliver credible research, leading to its swift shutdown within two weeks of launch.

Details of the Scam:

• Product Claims: Valkyrie's skincare products were marketed with exaggerated claims about blue light causing severe skin damage, including cell shrinkage and accelerated aging.
• False Research: Valkyrie initially asserted that proprietary studies supported her claims but later admitted the research was inconclusive.
• Rapid Failure: Negative feedback and lack of scientific backing led to the brand’s quick demise, leaving customers skeptical and financial losses incurred.

Dexter Mayfield [69:10]: "The skin care scams of these late times. Purito is done, done, done."

This segment highlights the dangers of influencer-driven scams, where the trust bestowed by a persona is exploited to sell ineffective or fraudulent products.

Conclusion and Final Remarks [73:02 – End]

Wrapping up the episode, Laci and Dexter provide information on how listeners can connect with them and access more content. They encourage the audience to stay informed and vigilant against scams, reinforcing the podcast’s mission to reveal the humorous side of fraud while educating listeners.

Laci Mosley [73:10]: "Podspot.com/scamgodys get that merch before I switch it up. You know I like to keep the tricks guessing."

The episode concludes with acknowledgments of the production team and a reminder to "stay scheming," encapsulating the podcast's blend of humor and insightful commentary on the world of scams.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Laci Mosley [12:22]: "You deserve to get mad. You cannot get mad because that's only gonna make the situation like, situation worse."
• Dexter Mayfield [25:02]: "I don't want to be a scammer no more."
• Laci Mosley [54:38]: "Cause she's like, how you gonna be mad at me? I'm your baby mama. Is that how she getting out of it?"

Key Takeaways:

• Kindness as a Strategy: Leveraging empathy and genuine interactions can effectively disarm confrontational situations.
• Awareness of Scams: Vigilance is crucial when engaging in transactions, especially in seemingly innocuous settings like food trucks.
• Psychology of Con Artists: Understanding the manipulative tactics used by fraudsters like Dana Lawrence provides insight into preventing and identifying scams.
• Influencer Impact: The Valkyrie skincare scam demonstrates the significant influence influencers can wield, both positively and negatively.

Resources and Further Listening:

• Subscribe to Scam Goddess on Apple Podcasts or via SiriusXM Podcasts+ for ad-free and early access.
• Scam Goddess TV Show: Premiering on Freeform and Hulu on January 15th.
• Follow Laci Mosley: Social Media Handles

Stay informed and entertained by tuning into Scam Goddess every Tuesday for fresh episodes and every Friday for classic re-releases. As Laci always says, "Stay scheming!"

Transcript

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Dexter Mayfield]

I absolutely love it. It's well made. It's well made. It is so well made.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thank you so much. Oh, you guys already have a sneak preview of who's here, so today we have a dancer, a model, and an actor on the show. Most recently, he's appeared in Taylor Swift's latest music video youo need to Calm down, which has won 2M TV Video Music Awards. You can also see him featured in the Savage x Fenty Volume 2 fashion show. Giving fashion, giving hottie. Giving bottie. Congregation, please welcome Dexter Mayfield.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Dexter, thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad you're here.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thank you so much for being here.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'm so glad. Oh, my God. It's such a pleasure. Such a pleasure. That's good.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's good.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Let me stop before I get stuck. Let me stop before I get stuck, Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm like, emmett Emmet. It's such a pleasure. Oh, my God. I got this all day. I know people are annoyed with me, and that's fine. I know they're annoyed.

[Dexter Mayfield]

They have to be annoyed with me as well, because I went along with all of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's so good, though, Dexter. I love the red hair. I love the vibe. I met Dexter at a premiere for We Are Here, which is a show on HBO Max that you should be watching. It's absolutely 100% Shangela Bob the drag Queen. And they go across the country into, like, tiny little towns, and they find, like, queer people who, like, haven't had the support of, like, a big city where there's, like, more of us gays. And they, like, do, like, you know, a drag show at the end, but they also talk to the families. It's a bit of a tearjerker. I love it so much. But we met there, and I went there because I was like, I'm gonna get all these queens on my show. I was like. I was like. I was like, yeah, fun, fun, fun. But also, like, come do my podcast.

[Dexter Mayfield]

100% accurate. I'm a witness. I can attest. Here I am.

[Lacey Mosley]

Facts. Listen. Okay, we're here, and now you're here. I was like, oh, yeah, we here. But also, can you be here on my podcast? Like, I know y' all here, but can y' all be here on the podcast as well?

[Dexter Mayfield]

And I have said yes, and I love it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love this. For me, what I was gonna tell you because we were talking a little bit before we started. I was gonna tell you, okay, so I had a hater at that event. Yes. And it was a black woman. Like, she was really petty.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, what had happened?

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is what had happened. So when we get to the premiere, it's like, you know how there was, like, the red carpet or the pink carpet or whatever? Like, right when you get inside the Sony lot. Right?

[Dexter Mayfield]

Absolutely.

[Lacey Mosley]

I pull up in my Uber lake or whatever with my homegirl and stop. Cause we like, oh, that's where the carpet is. And I'm there kind of for work, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's what I will say is, like, I love my gays, because a black lady sketch show. Icarly. They'd be like, oh, we know you. Like, anywhere else I go, I'd be like, hi, my name is Lacey Mosley. I'm on these shows. Like, I know no one knows me here, but can you just. My publicist told me to come. Like, I'm very, like, exactly. I'm so sorry that I'm here, but can y' all just write it on the thing so they know, like. But here, they were like, no, bitch, we know you. And I was like, ah, this is where I. So we go. So we stop at the carpet. Like, we get out. And so when we stop, the security guard was like, y' all can't get out here. Like, this is not the stopping point. Y' all gotta go down there. And I'm like, baby girl, I'm in heels. I'm not walking. Walking the ghetto walking conversation. Walking with my legs. You want me to move my legs?

[Dexter Mayfield]

I was supposed to wear a heel that night. But, you know, I was like, I'm not gonna do it. Cause I don't know the space. I don't know what's happening, you know?

[Lacey Mosley]

Emil, shout out to confess yous mess, But I'm gonna out you. Emil, I'm sorry. I'm out you. I know you're gonna hear this, but Emil. And listen to his podcast with his boo and fiance. Confess your mess. AJ Gibson. He was wearing heels. And, honey, by the time I ran.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Into him, and I was right there when he took him off, and he was giving.

[Lacey Mosley]

Let out. It was giving.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Let out that good grandma out of church Done.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was giving. If you can't go to Bella Noches, where can you go?

[Dexter Mayfield]

Where can you go with a slow pace and a pigeon toe and all the things?

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, Emil. Look, like Emil ain't been shot nine times. He was surely walking like 50 Cent. He was walking like 50 Cent.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, my God. The part that was killing me, AJ started leaving him. He was like, you not gonna walk with me if you walking like this. So I'm just gonna separate myself.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was like, this is embarrassing. Aren't you embarrassed? That's exactly what happened. Look, Emil is a fine man. Look at his Instagram. His abs are aggressive. He's doing great. But the heels. He was like, all right, I'm gonna tap out. I'm gonna head out, you know? And he took the out.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Cause he wasn't sitting down nowhere. He wasn't sitting down nowhere. And I told him. I was like, listen, if you. If you go have these four, five, six inch heels, you got to sit down somewhere Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because some shoes are meant for sitting.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'm supposed to wear a pair tonight to an event, and guess what? It's a dinner party. So it's perfect. We're great, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

For sitting. I'll never forget my mom bought me a pair of Louboutins for my graduation, and I tried them bitches on in the store, and I was like, these are so painful. And they're like, yeah, they're meant for sitting. Like, you just sit in them. I was like, I sit in shoes. Like, don't you got to move your body to go places? And they were like, no, no, no. And now I'm like, yeah. Do you know that if your feet hurt for a few days after you take off a heel, more likely than not, you have broken a bone in your foot, because there's tons of bones in your feet, and so they heal naturally. But, like, if you take off some heels and you hurt him for a few days, not just like an hour or two or just that night, you most likely broke some bones in your foot.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You better go figure it out. You better. You better.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'd be breaking these bones all the time. I'm like, I'm gonna need these bones to congeal into a pago. Thank you. Because we're wearing the shoe into a page. Okay. We're wearing the shoe. We're wearing the shoe. Guys. Feet.

[Dexter Mayfield]

We have to. It's part of the process, the program.

[Lacey Mosley]

Which reminds me, Wiki feet give me five stars. I know I don't deserve it. I told y' all, my feet look like I've been like, you know, letting fans, like, sticking them in fans, like, little. Like, little air fans, like, they're ug. But scam wikifeet and give me five stars, so.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

So. Oh, to finish this, the security guard. So she was like, y' all can't stop right here. Like, y' all gotta stop over here. I'm like, baby girl, in the time that you telling us to do all this, like, we just gonna get out the car. I was like, we getting out the car. It's all good. Like, the car's gonna leave. That's it.

[Dexter Mayfield]

We're done.

[Lacey Mosley]

We get out the car. She's mad a hater. I incited a hater. And, you know, on this podcast, they all know about hater jobs being insecurity. Absolutely. A hater job, like, being a job, keep people out. It's to, like, be mean. Like, it's a hater job. It's necessary, but it's a hater. Job. So absolutely, we go in, we take our pictures, we do whatever, right? Then we go to the bathroom once and we end up just like checking our makeup. Chilling, Whatever. And all the bathrooms, you know, there were like, how bathrooms should be, which is just like gender neutral. So there's like people who are men or people who are non binary women. Like, everybody's in the same bathrooms and ain't nothing, everyone's Welsh. Chilling. So we come out and I was like, oh, I need to get a picture of my fit. So my homie takes a picture of my fit on this couch that's inside. And then the security lady comes in and this is a different lady. And she's like, oh, you actually can't sit on the furniture. I'm like, oh, okay, girl. We just getting this photo off real quick. Is that cool? And she was like, yeah, that's fine. So then the other security lady, the hater lady, comes in after her and is like, you have to get off the couch. I'm like, girl, we was getting off. We was just getting the photo for the gram. Okay, like, we done now? We done now. So we get up, we go, we're watching the premiere. It's cold. I didn't bring a jacket. I'm a cold hoe at this point. So I was like, oh, let's just go back to the bathroom for a second. Like, just warm up. So we're going to the bathroom and tell me why the. There was like a security guard in there. My homegirl who came with me. I'm not gonna say her name. She was lit and like, when she's lit, she'd be talking to people. I wasn't lit because I missed the drinks because I was taking photos. And so she's lit and she just likes to talk to people. When she listens, she's like, oh, where are you from? Like, who are you? Like, I'm like, you don't gotta he chat with everybody now. But not that cordial, right? But most of the time it's fine. And she makes great friends and we end up having great experiences. So I'm not gonna knock it because I love it. It's not me. And that's why I love her because she be doing stuff I don't. So she talks to a security guard and the security guard is like paying her dust. And it's just some random security guard. So this security guard leaves. Tell me why. The hater security guard comes in the bathroom, accosts me and says, I heard you were in here doing drugs. I was like, bitch, who? I was like, do you want to check my purse? Like, I don't got no drugs. Like, what are you talking about? She was like, well, I'll just believe you. And I was like, who told you? Like, who? I was like, what was this report? Like, who told you? She was like, someone said, someone in pink boots. And I was wearing pink thigh high pleather boots. She was like, they said that they were doing drugs. I'm like, bitch, you made this up. You just mad that I didn't listen to your dumbass in the beginning.

[Dexter Mayfield]

First of all, first of all, at the event that we was at, it was real nice and it was real elevated. But at the end of the day, it is the community and the community is going to do what the community is going to do. So I highly doubt anybody from the community would literally go up to a security guard talking about I saw a black girl in pink boots doing drugs. Get her. What, in what world do you think that is fathomable?

[Lacey Mosley]

She made that shit up. And I was dying because I was.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Talking and she was out here scamming. She was out here scamming and hating. And those two do not mention.

[Lacey Mosley]

And that's why I say, like, look, y' all gotta know when you meet in a petty person and you have to know how to disarm them. Because the best way to disarm a petty ass person in a petty ass job, like a parking meter, like da da da da is kindness. You can't get, you can't get mad.

[Dexter Mayfield]

That's all you can do. That is literally all you can do.

[Lacey Mosley]

You deserve to get mad. You cannot get mad because that's only gonna make the situation like, situation worse. Cause that's what they want. Like one time I was late for a flight, which I constantly am. And, and because I call myself like, I do Michelle Obama hours. So I go to the airport, like I'm about to just walk up the stairs on the plane. Like I just be acting like I'm flying private Michelle Obama hours.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Very self explanatory.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't like to be in airports, but I was like, I slid under this like it was like a red ice. I was late at night lax. I slid under this little like, you know, the little gatekeeper thingies that they have with the little rubber or whatever the fuck it is. And this lady, a petty, a petty police, she was like, oh, you can't do that. You need to go back downstairs. She told me, go back downstairs. Like I was in goddamn middle school. Or something. Like, I gotta go stand in the wall. Face the corner. I was like, no, bitch. And that's what I'm saying in my head, but out loud. I was like, oh, my God. I'm so sorry. Like, I'm just so late for my flight. I'm so sorry. I will never do it again. I will go around this thing, but I can't go downstairs. Cause I'll miss my flight.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'm so sorry. That is absolutely it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, what's your ticket? I was like, I'm flying first class. Like, this is my ticket. And she was like, okay, you can go. But I had to disarm her. I had to apologize a lot. Like, sometimes just, like, humble yourself and apologize, don't you.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It honestly makes life so much better and such a smooth transition. Because I remember I was getting in somebody's car and they was popping stupid off at me. And I was like, listen, I don't know what's going on. I'm just trying to get from point A to point B. I think I was working at Bloomingdale's at the time. It was like, I'm just trying to get to work. Can we just figure this out and be okay? And by the end of the ride, at the end of the ride, they was like, I'm so sorry for the. That I was giving you. I was like, it's totally fine. I get it. We all have our days. But yes, simply disarming someone is to be nice to them. And it sucks that that's what you. I mean, the only way for some people to understand you don't have to jump ignorant from out the gate for no reason.

[Lacey Mosley]

It is disarming. It is. Cause it's like, what are you gonna do when a bitch smiling at you? Like, what you gonna do when a bitch is being nice? Like, how you gonna stay mad?

[Dexter Mayfield]

Are you now gonna take a. Take a position of dominance and be like, let me flex on them? Like, no, it's not gonna work.

[Lacey Mosley]

And how do you flex if somebody's like, I'm laying down? Like, how do you flex if they're like, so sorry? Like, I'm telling you guys, a strategic apology, a strategic kindness. Even if you don't mean that shit. Even if somebody's being an asshole to you, Sometimes you just suck it up and you be nice and you'll get what you want. Cause they feel dumb. Like they don't have any energy coming back at them. And so then they feel stupid.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's like, why am I acting this way? Like, why am I acting like a complete buffoon, Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, y' all know I'm a horrible driver. I told y' all I never took a driver's license test. Don't understand how that happened. Texas. But sometimes I be cutting people off. I be doing things.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You're not the only one. You're not the only one. You're not the only one.

[Lacey Mosley]

I walked up, I showed her I.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Passed my driver's exam from my test where everybody was giving each other answers.

[Lacey Mosley]

And she gave me, not cheating, not y' all cheating. Then it was like, hey, hey, hey. Uh, what does Yale mean? What does yield mean? We didn't even do that.

[Dexter Mayfield]

We just opened the book because our teacher left for two hours of the entire exam. We was done in 30 minutes. Chilling.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's irresponsible as fuck. I can't believe this teacher left y' all in here cheating. Not cheating on the driver's license test.

[Dexter Mayfield]

They was like, we done drove y' all for xo amount of hours. We know what y' all doing here.

[Lacey Mosley]

At least she knows the information. The left lane was fast, the slow.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And that was the thing. We didn't even need to ask. We all just opened our books and got the exercise.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was in there cheating. Cheating. Not on driving. That's the most dangerous form of transportation. Statistically. I think about that every time I get on a plane. But. Cause I'm like, I hate flying. But I'm like, statistically, it is worse to drive. Why am I comfortable driving? But I'm a terrible driver. So sometimes I'll be cutting people off or doing some wild shit, and, like, if they honk at me or start having road rage, I'll, like, either. Sometimes I act like I don't hear it because they be doing too much and they be yelling at me, and I just be like, I'm just gonna pretend I can't hear. But sometimes I'll just, like, smile and wave and be like, sorry. Like, I'm a woman. That's when I let, like, you know, misogyny take over. And I'm like, I'm just a woman. Don't know how to operate a motor vehicle, you know? And then, like, let them go. Because sometimes people with road rage will follow you. Which I'm like, bitch, if you were so mad about the traffic or about what I did, you like, don't you have somewhere to go now? You taking some time to follow me?

[Dexter Mayfield]

What happened to this place that you were in such a hurry to get to?

[Lacey Mosley]

Now you don't. You're not in a hurry. Now you following me. And I've been followed several times. I need to work on my driving. I'm gonna work on it. I'm gonna pray about it and let God take over.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But you gonna let Jesus take the wheel.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's all. And that's what he do. Every time I get in the car, I'd be like, jesus, you got it? Put it in gear, cuz. You know I don't. You know I don't. Okay. Scams.

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Lacey Mosley]

Shop everything you need for 4th of July and beyond at Whole Foods Market, in store and online. Dexter, what is your relationship with scams? Like, have you ever been scammed? Do you like scams? Do you hate them? Like, it could be anything.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I mean, for some reason, somebody tried to come at me with press juicery purchases for over $150, like a couple of months ago. And then I have to cancel my card, Then I have to wait for my other card, then I have to, you know, submit an appeal, but just so they could go to press juicery. That was just one. That really triggered me recently.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. He had a bougie ass scammer. He went to press juicery.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Bougie scammer. Bougie scammer. But the problem is it didn't even go through because that's what triggered it. And I was like, well, caught it now. Bye. Hope it was worth it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So your bank was like, you don't drink pressed juice?

[Dexter Mayfield]

They probably were.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've never seen you near a press juice.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And no Press Juicery for $150 in Santa Monica when I live elsewhere. But yeah, you know, I was just. I was like, remember we out here in these streets, I don't know who.

[Lacey Mosley]

Trying to scam when I live other places, least descriptive.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But normally my relationship to scamming is like nothing like serious, just, you know, folks on certain apps be like, oh, how are you beautiful? How are you beautiful? Then three weeks later it's like, papa, I have emergency. Can you send me some money to Algeria or some foreign country?

[Lacey Mosley]

And I'm.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And I just made that up. That was a code name. Nothing against that. Anybody in Algeria just now you Gucci.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just like a far away place. They're like, hey, just a far away place. I'm having surgery and camera home.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I have not. You know what I'm saying? And then it's like, oh, I'm just sorry, I don't have it. And you know, because I don't go for the scam, you know, all of a sudden that person just exits, you know, the room.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But let me see. I guess it's low key scams that I noticed. Like in the industry that we in, like, let's say, you know, there's a, there's a term that people call a certain group of people, which is bg. We'll just call them bg. And then, you know, being a dancer a lot of times production, you know, PAs and production producers, sometimes they like to lump us all in the same group. I'm like, you just hired this person at 8am this morning versus me having five, six, eight hour multiple rehearsals to show up to set and do certain things. So then when I show up to set and you asking me to do XOXO that a BG person should do, then we're gonna have a problem and then I'm gonna get triggered and then I'm gonna look like an asshole when I have to put you in your place, in which I most definitely will if you keep trying to pull shenanigans and scams on me.

[Lacey Mosley]

I had to start telling people. And I've said this, not on this podcast, but every single job that I've gotten hired on, every single one, there has been somebody who comes up to me and was like, oh, you're here really early for background work. Or oh, you're da, da, da. I was like, bish, I work here. And it got to the point where now if they say it to me, I stop and I very calmly say, hey, if you don't know what someone's station is at a place, you should ask them. Because it feels incredibly racist for you to just assume that I'm here as someone who is a day player or someone that you picked up off of a website. I'm actually on this show and you've offended me. And I do it. Cause I'm like, no, like you're not gonna gaslight me first thing in the morning. That's the other thing I tell people is like.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And it's always first thing in the morning.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm like, it's 5am and are you doing racism to me at 5am? You gotta be like, the part of waking up is racism in your cup. You doing racism to me at 5am?

[Dexter Mayfield]

No, like legit. And the breakfast. And I do love, I do love when we are on set and we are on camera and we are the main talent. And then all of a sudden they face. They see it, they see it. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, Dexter, do you need anything?

[Lacey Mosley]

Do you need anything?

[Dexter Mayfield]

I was like, no, I'm good, thank you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right, like just don't assume it's super racist. Just ask people if you do not know. Because what you're saying is like, you're black, so you possibly couldn't be here for anything valuable. And not to say that background isn't valuable. It absolutely is. But there's no qualification background.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Some hard working people, hardworking people and great people. But I'm like my ministry, I need to sign up also.

[Lacey Mosley]

There's just more work. There's more work until you being a dancer, you going to show like, you know, going to practice and rehearsal and stuff. There's more work and talent required to do that than to just submit and be in the back of a scene. It's just, it's not the same. It's like if you were the CEO of a company and they were like, hey, here are my keys, can you go park my car? It's like, nigga, what? I'm Jeff Bezos. You don't see my cue ball head. You don't see all the murders I'm responsible for.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I mean that's, I mean, honestly, his wife gave him that very much energy. When she met Leonardo DiCaprio, just most recently, child, she was like, jeff who?

[Lacey Mosley]

She started looking at that man like she was about to risk it all. I'm like, you gonna risk it all? One of the richest men in the world.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She went into all she saw Leo, she said, scam Mode on level 5000, activate.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I'm like, baby girl, if you ain't Gen Z, Leo ain't looking at you like you know he likes him.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Young or Gen Z adjacent. Adjacent where you know, you may not.

[Lacey Mosley]

If you've Heard of the show Cheers. Leonardo ain't gonna date you.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'mma punch you. I'mma punch you square through this zone.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm just saying, if you've heard Frasier, if, you know, tossed salad and scrambled eggs, you too old for hell. If you watch Friends.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Hbo. Max messed up and put family matters on, so I'm checking in on family matters all the time.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, guys, 23 minutes in, we're going to start our first segment. What's hot and fraud. I'll tell you, Maria's probably over here pulling out her hair. I don't think I've ever gone 23 minutes before I got to a first segment. It's our connection.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'm so sorry.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it. Y' all go live. It's going to be what it is. So this is the part of the podcast where we warn our listeners about scams that are popping on the street. But more often than not, you know, you all know these days, it's a listener letter. As always, snitch on your friends and family at Scam God is pod at gmail dot com. Just make sure your scam is retired, because we don't want to what up your bag. Amen. So here we go. Mom's gonna cuss me out for saying amen after cursing, but it's fine. Here we go. This scam. Give me a fake name, Dexter. We don't care about gender.

[Dexter Mayfield]

We gonna use Kiki. Let's keep it cute.

[Lacey Mosley]

And we are having Kiki, and we're gon. And Kiki is also going to be the name. So Kiki says. Oh, Kiki says. I'm going to read this. I don't normally read stuff at the top, but hello. I love this podcast, and it's gotten me through some hard days. Thank you. Thank you, Kiki. Thank you. That's what we. That's what we do it for. So for context, for the story, a university. You are university. I'm going say you at university. Okay, but. Or are you a university? That's fine. So it says. And at my university, a food truck will come twice a week. This one week, a food truck came in that made these brisket fries. A friend and I went to the truck to get these fries, and they were absolutely delicious. Come on, Brisket fry. That sound good. You better put some brisket on the fry.

[Dexter Mayfield]

So good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Amen. Biscuit on a fry. So the next day, I went through my usual routine, and I asked my friend what she thought about her fries. Damn, you was really thinking about them fries. Like they must have been good as hell if the next day you was like, hey, girl. So happy on the mind.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Happy on the mind.

[Lacey Mosley]

How you feel about them? Let's talk about the fries. Hey, I'm a facetime you about the fries. Like, okay. So they talked about the fries. She said they were good, but she believed the workers at the food truck might have taken her card information. I was like, why? How? And she was like, someone used my card to buy $50 worth of stuff at Walmart. And I was like, oh, that sucks. But deep down, I didn't want to believe it. Damn, them fries must have been good if you was willing to ignore fraud. You were like, nah, there's no way that these delicious ass fries robbed you.

[Dexter Mayfield]

No, never.

[Lacey Mosley]

Never. Not these fries. Yum yum, bitch. Okay. I love it. Thankfully, I paid in cash for my food and was willing to go back to the truck and pay with cash again because the fries were that good. So listen, Keke said, look, I don't even care if they over here robbing people. The fries are good, and I've been there. Kiki. When I was in college, there was a hot dog man who used to make hot dogs, and he put this barbecue crack sauce on them. And we would come back from the club from a party. He'd be out on the street making these hot dogs, and he had, like, eight kids. Like, no lie. And I remember one time he was like, oh, can I have your number? And I was like, damn, this hot dog is so good. I gave that man my number, and then I woke up the next morning. Why did I do that?

[Dexter Mayfield]

Why did I do that? Absolutely.

[Lacey Mosley]

Those hot dogs were hitting. If you went to the University of Pittsburgh, you know, the hot dog men on Oakland Ave. On the south side, you know, I was like, yeah, you can have my number. You deserve it. What else you want? My credit card. Like, you can have whatever you want. We good. Like, they were good, Dexter. They would.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Hey, I can relate. I can relate back in my college days, back in whenever they were.

[Lacey Mosley]

Back in whenever they were.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But there was this one spot called chicken express, to be honest, I know Chicken express. You know what I'm saying? But for some reason, after a nice college moment, a cute college party, Chicken.

[Lacey Mosley]

Express is the best thing they got that white gravy.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's that white gravy and that damn sweet tea. It's that white gravy and that damn sweet tea.

[Lacey Mosley]

You taking me back. My leg is shaking. That white gravy. Honey, dip that chicken in the white gravy no. Ooh, don't do this.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Cause they don't season it on the chicken. You can't have chicken that's dry. You can't have it. Can't. Cannot do it. But you put it in that gravy. All is well with.

[Lacey Mosley]

All good. It's anti black. You gotta have seasoning. It's just. It's what it is. So they were like, I'm gonna go back to the truck. I don't care. Like, that's my man. I'm gonna stick beside him. I'm gonna stick beside him. And I love that. So they were supposed to show up the next day, and I was ready to go order, but when I went outside, there was no food truck insight. And I know I did a weird comma there, but there was no food truck insight.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's okay. It's okay. I received it.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's when I realized that they probably did use my friend's card info, because why would they just not show up when they were scheduled to show up anyway? If they did use people's card info, I think it was messed up to take a bunch of broke college students card info. Here's a picture of what the fries looked like, because I always take pictures of my food. I'm gonna show this to you, and we'll put it on the. Oh, damn. Hold on. Oh, let me see if I can get into, like, really? Because I'm using my.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I can see.

[Lacey Mosley]

Can you see that? Oh, my God.

[Dexter Mayfield]

What's. Like, what's the stuff on top of it?

[Lacey Mosley]

That's the stuff on top. Scallions. Them scallions. Ooh.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Ma' am, Come on. Surf and turf in a different way.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. And these curly fries. And the curly fries look seasoned. Look at them fries. They dark skin. Look at that. They seasoned.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, yeah. They got that little. That hue. That hue to it.

[Lacey Mosley]

And they done put some kind of. Some kind of. Oh, is that a sesame seed on top of there? The damn sesame seed. Oh, my God.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why is it busting? Oh, they busting.

[Dexter Mayfield]

No wonder she was throwing her friend info on them.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said, y' all want my friend Cardiff again? Y' all want my friend Cardiff again? Cause I give it to you. Cause I just remember I'm just giving.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Y' all cash, so don't come for me. I'm giving y' all cash, so.

[Lacey Mosley]

But y' all want my friend. Driver's license photo. I took a picture. I'll give it to you. Cute. Not you.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I give you. I give you her atm, pen, all of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Anything you need. Y' all. Y' all got them fries, though. Scratch it. Y' all got them fries, though. Like, oh, man, them fries look good. I won't lie. I might. I might get scammed to go back and get some more of those fries. They was bust.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I mean, I. I'll join you. I will join you.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm not mad.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I will join you.

[Lacey Mosley]

I understand. I agree with you. I sympathize.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Like, I love it, but I also understand.

[Lacey Mosley]

I got mad at it. But, yeah, like, guys, when you go places, you have to be very careful about your credit card information, but also just be vigilant of your card, because you can't stop people from taking your card information. Like, they do it at the gas station. You always need to check and put your hand. If you go to a gas station, you should always put your hand on the card receiver, try to pull it, try to see if anything comes out. Because a lot of people will slide little copiers into the gas station. It's the most common place that they get your credit card info. But you just have to be careful. And, yeah, if they get you, like, hopefully you have a petty ass bank like Dexter's that's like, you don't live in Santa Monica. You don't like pressed juice.

[Dexter Mayfield]

100. $100.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, we could see you getting one pressed juice, like, because you be out here dancing stuff. So we know you athletic, but $150 worth of pressed juice. Nigga, we know you. We know you don't do that.

[Dexter Mayfield]

He's like, you a big dude, so it's fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, it's not even about being big. I think it's just like, they was like, you ain't ever Dexter. You like, you do your little.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You'll order your little vegan stuff from doordash or whatever, but, like, you know not.

[Lacey Mosley]

You got 12 cardamom apple juices. No, we know this is not you, but hold on.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Right now. Immediately, they got. They got nine green juices. That ain't happening. That ain't even, though. So when I was recently in Australia, they would bring this green juice, and I'd be like, oh, this one slaps. They put the right amount of apple and the right amount of juice.

[Lacey Mosley]

Australia, come on. Australia down under.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, oy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Ly zee. So, guys. That's all I know how to say. And somebody from Australia was like, I ain't never heard that. And I was like, nerve, nerd. Nerve. Nerve, Nerve. More accents, guys. This episode is about accents. Me doing terrible ones. Robbery.

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[Dexter Mayfield]

I was like, but that name, Dana Lawrence sounds familiar. Do I know this?

[Lacey Mosley]

You might know Dana Lawrence. You might know her because she was getting around town and by telling.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Well, let's get into it. What did Dana do?

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is Dana O. She got a good scammer face because it's hella forgettable. This is literally every Kappa Kappa Gamma at every college around the country.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Every try doubts. Every try doubt.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? This is like, we want to go Eddie Pie. We want to do da da da. Like, it's like, Dana, I love your face because it's hella forgettable. Like, Rob, everybody. Like, this is the most generic neutral.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Secure your bag. Secure your bag.

[Lacey Mosley]

Dana, love this for you. And a name like Dana, you can run it up. Love this. So she has a penchant for seducing men before taking what she needs from them and ditching the state with her children in tow. Over the course of her career and being on the run for 14 years, she swindled tens of thousands of dollars from unwitting victims. Real hot girl shit.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Like, period, period. Pyong, Pyong, Pyong, Pyom.

[Lacey Mosley]

Pyong. Love this. She said, you want a Minaj with the new body, except for it was like the new name. You want a Minaj with the new Dana. Like, what's the new name? Dana. Love it. Love this. So Dana Lawrence grew up in St. Augustine, Florida. Of course she did, because Florida, Chef's Kiss, you know, for America, the scammers go, it's like Brooklyn Chef's Kiss. Delicious. Brooklyn is like our Silicon Valley of scams. And then I think a close second is obviously Florida, because the Florida man. Come on now.

[Dexter Mayfield]

They out here wild anywhere in Florida, anywhere.

[Lacey Mosley]

Very embarrassing for us as a country. Love it for them. I don't know what the third spot would be. It probably would be Los Angeles.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, no, I wouldn't say la.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like we just don't be getting caught. What would you say? I'm just talking about the continental U.S. i'm not factoring in Nigeria. I'm not factoring in because really, that's where like, everything was perfected like kings.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I feel like it's somewhere in, like, Arkansas.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, Atlanta. You know what it is? It's New York, Florida. Atlanta. Yeah. Florida's a state. Atlanta is a city.

[Dexter Mayfield]

New York is a city in the state. But you said Brooklyn. So you said two cities and the whole state of Florida, which is honestly very accurate.

[Lacey Mosley]

The whole state of Florida. Brooklyn.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I do love Florida, though.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love Florida.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I love Tampa and I love. I love both. But gotcha.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, we know what they doing, we know what they doing. And I love it for them. I love it for them. So her childhood was somewhat tumultuous. She gave birth to a baby girl as a teenager. And through her child, though her child was adopted, she never graduated from high school. She then went on to have a brief marriage in Provo, Utah, before bouncing from city to city. Eventually Landing in New York City, where she realized her true potential as a career con artist. Love that for you, sis. Come on. Self actualization. Your career is crime. Love that.

[Dexter Mayfield]

So it's the Provo Utah for me, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Was you fake Mormon for a little bit.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's the training grounds of Provo Utah for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Did you get with Joseph Smith? For a second and then he was like, I'm good. Like, what happened? So her first con in 1996 involved a student from a wealthy family named Chris. Of course his name was Chris. He. She began a relationship with him, which ended as quickly as it began. Though Dana continued to stalk and harass Chris and his family. Damn, Dana. You was like Monica. Like you was gonna pull up to the house and slap your chick. Tell him Monica not having it. Tell him Dana not having it. Like that's, that's what you were doing, Dana, you was stalking.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She said, I'mma pull up, I'mma pull up. And that's what it's going to be.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was waiting outside his house like the nypd, like, you got donuts, you got binoculars. What's going on? Anytime anybody buys binoculars, you should know they about to do crime. Ain't that many people bird watching.

[Dexter Mayfield]

First of all, kudos to you for correcting the pronunciation midway because I would have still said binoculars.

[Lacey Mosley]

Binoculars.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Binoculars and a ambulance. An ambulance and a binoculars.

[Lacey Mosley]

We love a scambulance. We love an ambulance. Yes. So Dana also discovered that she was pregnant and eventually gave birth to a girl named Kennedy. So that's probably Chris baby. She then moved to Orlando, Florida, where she committed crime. Credit card fraud. Had one night stand with the bartender named Kevin and subsequently became pregnant with her second daughter Avery. Damn, Danny, you fertile damn.

[Dexter Mayfield]

No, it's. It's literally like she has a kid. As she levels up her scamming. Once she gets to the next level of scamming, she has to get another child to reinforce said scamming. So she has to have another excuse is.

[Lacey Mosley]

I guess she's like, I gotta feed these kids. So robbery. Love that. You know, we've talked about that so many times on the show. What would you do if your s is at home? Cry on the floor, you know, cuz he's hungry, you know you got a scam you got. Set it off.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Set it off.

[Lacey Mosley]

I need that money. Set it off. That's my favorite part. Cuz I was like, that's how much? Exactly what you want? I need that money. Dana said, I need that money.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, I got mad at. It was spot On. Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

So deep cut. If you know, you know. So she took off with Avery and Kennedy, her kids, to Indiana, where she met a man named Bill who loaned her five grand to start her own cleaning business. Okay, now she clean it. Nana ran off with the children again and Bill's money to Massachusetts. Bill followed her and discovered that Dana was pregnant with his son. God damn Dana.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I told you, when she completes another scam, another child shall come awry. Like it shall. It is like clockwork. It is literally her. That's her mo. That's her modus operandi. So if she had another kid, she just finished the scam. See, that's where they missed it right there.

[Lacey Mosley]

It can't be. The wrap up to your scam is creating life, sis. Have you heard of Lowestrin? Have you heard of like, goddamn Yas? You know, they name them after bitch brunch with clearly.

[Dexter Mayfield]

What's the one with the no hormones and the old girl from what's her name? What's her name? What's her name?

[Lacey Mosley]

Have you heard of IUDs like, oh, I don't know. What. What is shitt's creek girl slanging? She got a little coochie pill for us. I didn't know.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, my God, the ad is perfect. It's so good. You have to see it. She's in her vagina and she's letting you know what the situation is.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's in her vagina.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's like this beautiful pink lounge. It's so cute. It's so cute. And then all of a sudden. But when she. Because the premise is you only need to do this one when you getting ready for the good, good. So you don't even have to take it, like, on a daily basis. It has no hormones. I can't. It starts with a P. I want to say it starts with a P. I can't remember. There we go. There it is, see?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, she is in a vagina. We'll post this on the episode. She's in her vagina. Like, I imagine that's what my vagina looks like. Pink. Great decorations, you know. Very cute.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Mancha got you, though. When she's ready, she comes out with this, like, gorgeous little, like, gold, like, jumpsuit. And she scoots out of her vagina to go get her. Good, good. On the scooter.

[Lacey Mosley]

Jasmine on the scooter. Not you on the scooter.

[Dexter Mayfield]

When I say scoot, she actually scoots. So she said, no sexy, no nothing. Give me my kid, I'm ready.

[Lacey Mosley]

For my nosey. No sexy. Get it?

[Dexter Mayfield]

No sexy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So despite Dana's constant betrayals, Bill moved his life to Rhode island to settle down with Dana and her family. In 2003, though, that relationship eventually fell apart. Dana must have that good. Good. She got people crossing state lines, chasing her down. She stole this man's money, and he was like, wait for me.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Wait for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

Nah, girl, we in love. I'm gonna raise these kids like they my own. Where they come from. Several states.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I'm still stuck on.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wait for me. He ran after. He's like, hold on, hold on. I'm coming with you. So in 2004, while still in Rhode Island, Dana made her first major mistake when she made friends with a woman named Lydia, who she proceeded to scam out of nearly $12,000. You don't scam a Lydia. Lydia sounds.

[Dexter Mayfield]

See, see, You've been scamming men, and now you scamming a woman.

[Lacey Mosley]

That men are a scam. You can scam them women. Nah, you gonna make the petty jump out. Lydia. Her name was Lydia. And you thought she wasn't gonna get her coins back. You're crazy. That's like scamming a named Susan. I don't. With Susans. They're scary.

[Dexter Mayfield]

It's like. It's like Lydia would have been Karen, but Karen, you know, is the perfect description of what a Karen is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, Lydia knows when to chill.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But a Lydia knows, especially when you trying to fuck up her money. She knows. And you. And here we go.

[Lacey Mosley]

Lydia got four cousins who are lawyers. You don't fuck with Lydia. Like, she's not.

[Dexter Mayfield]

What happened with Lydia? What happened with Lydia?

[Lacey Mosley]

So Lydia had loaned Dana a small amount of money and a credit card, thinking it was an affair emergency and Dana would pay her back from a family trust shortly, supported by documentation Dana had given her. So she. She. She got on word. She got on Photoshop. She was like, oh, here's the paperwork. Like, I got a family trust. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, she. The paper still hot from FedEx Kinkos. And she done printed it out and was like, it's legit. No. Okay. So soon after Lydia gave Dana the money, another woman from Rhode island approached her, saying that Dana had scammed her and that Lydia should watch out. Lydia went to the accounting firm printed on the letterhead of Dana, like, letter that she had given her as proof of inheritance. She discovered that no such accounting firm existed. Duh. It was like inheritance.com, inheritance incorporated, family money.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Because I feel like. I feel like the situation is at the point where, like, you know, she got to scam all these menses because they wasn't checking documentation. No, you bring your documentation to.

[Lacey Mosley]

Good. She said get.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You bring your. You bring this documentation to Lydia. She is going to check that on site.

[Lacey Mosley]

On site. Okay. Lydia is petit with a capital T. She want her coins. Also, guys, this is just a lesson. Like, if anybody tells you they need money, but they got money, they lying. They lying. I'll say it one more time. They lying. Why you need money if you got money money? Why you need taxes and fees if you got a million dollars? Think about it. They're lying.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Lying, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Say like Viola Davis. Lying, lying.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You're lying.

[Lacey Mosley]

Truly. So Lydia immediately filed a police report on Dana. But by then it was too late. Dana had moved on to her next con. Damn, Lydia, you gotta be quicker than that.

[Dexter Mayfield]

See, see, that's the thing. She didn't have no kids. So the scam got messed up. I told you, it's a process. It's a process.

[Lacey Mosley]

So abandoning her children.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, and that was the. And that was the. And that was it. And that was it.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said, fuck them kids. She punted them kids. That's not right. That's wrong. So her next target, Ms.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Carver, said, Let me enter the picture now.

[Lacey Mosley]

So her next target was a man named Ben, a soldier in New York, whom she convinced to shelter her from her abuse. Abusive boyfriend. In quotes. Because there was no boyfriend. She just made it.

[Dexter Mayfield]

No, not a service.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was getting on the phone. Not a service person. Ah, no, Greg. Not the grips, like. And there was nobody.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She's just getting. She's just getting lackadaisical now.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's making them funny. They're not funny. I'm not trying to make light of that, but I am saying that this woman made up a fake abusive boyfriend, which is insane.

[Dexter Mayfield]

So she told me what had happened after that.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Ben was eventually deployed to Afghanistan. And Dana was like. She wasted no time using his credit cards in his absence. As soon as he got deployed, she was like, baby, here's a picture of me to put in your wallet when you're out there, you know, doing America's dirty work. And I hope you get back safe. I'm praying for you every night. I'm gonna see you letters on a million pictures of my pussy in the US Postal. And then as soon as he left, she was like, okay, vis American Express. Discover I'll allow it. And started using. So his family noticed the fraudulent activity. But when police came to question Dana, she had fled to Canada with Her three children, Avery, Kennedy, and Harper, while also pregnant with another child. Oh, she fertile.

[Dexter Mayfield]

When I tell you every time she.

[Lacey Mosley]

Be robbing people with all this labor, like, you are giving birth, like, every other day, like, sis, how you doing?

[Dexter Mayfield]

All these robberies you got, it's literally part of her. It's part of her process. And if she can't, you see, she started messing up when she didn't have a kid. So she was like, well, let me go back to having a kid. Even though I left my kids.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's like. Cause she's like, how you gonna be mad at me? I'm your baby mama. Is that how she getting out of it? Like, she's like, I'm your baby mama.

[Dexter Mayfield]

The kids is probably like, well, she got some more money now. I guess we good.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is four keys now by four different men. So after the birth of her son, Jackson. I love that name for a boy. Dana tried to flee back to the United States. But by that time, she had felony warrants out for her in the state of New York. When she reached the Canadian border, she was stopped, arrested, and sentenced to two years in prison for theft and grand larceny 2.

[Dexter Mayfield]

When you had grand larceny, too?

[Lacey Mosley]

Grand larceny, like fat joy. But, yeah, you said she's a white lady. Like, come on.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Then the scam continues.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now she got four baby daddies. The only reason I would say, like, please don't send this woman to prison is like, who gonna raise these kids? Like, all of her baby daddies are spread out through the continental U.S. y' all shipping the kids through the mail. Like, where are the kids going? I don't know. So she was put on nine years probation and made to repay $47,000. Her son Jackson was put up for adoption, and her other children were separated from her. When Dana was finally released from prison, her children's fathers would not allow her to see them. So she took her daughter Kennedy, her sister, and fled her probation to Chicago. Dana continued to use Kennedy like a prop, often passing her off as a niece to garner sympathy from people wanting to offer help. So she be like, oh, I'm just raising my niece, cuz my sister got hit by several buses. Like, yeah, it was like a bus convention. And they just kept running over. I saw it all with my own eyes. And then I now, this is my niece, and I take care of her. And I'mma stand beside her, you know, like, she making up stories to get coins and sipping.

[Dexter Mayfield]

If y' all can see my face right now, Child.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's like, my sister got hit by a plane. No, she wasn't in a plane crash. She got hit by a plane. Like.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She was waiting on the tarmac as it landed and got hit and.

[Lacey Mosley]

Got hit by the plane, you know?

[Dexter Mayfield]

So no air traffic controller in sight.

[Lacey Mosley]

Why was she on the tarmac? Listen, don't worry about that. Don't worry about all that, sweetheart.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She got hit by the plane.

[Lacey Mosley]

She got hit by the plane. Plane, like. And now I'm raising her kids. So what of it? Okay, I'm a saint. Love this. The kids like, mommy. She's like, yeah, yeah, she called me mommy now because, you know, auntie plane murder. Like, what you are.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it. So Chicago, right? Dana in Chicago, she scammed the stockbroker and his family by convincing them to donate over $72,000 to a fake nonprofit organization and charity. When US Marsh came looking for her over the money, she fled to Miami, where she stole another $28,000 from a nonprofit where she had found a job. Way to turn nonprofits into for profits. She was like, it's gonna be a nonprofit for your organization because I'm gonna.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Take the honey if this ain't the textbook definition of a narcissist.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah. I don't know who it. Psychotic. So abandoning Kennedy. So this is her last daughter that she holding on to. This her daughter. Niece. Her niece. Daughter if the only one she could.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Get access to, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Because the rest of them men were like, give us. Run us the babies, and you can never speak to them again. So although Dana and Kennedy briefly moved away from Miami, they ended up having to come back when police became involved in one of Dana's new relationships. Dana managed to land a job at Kennedy School in the financial department. Now, a woman like this don't even nowhere near a finance.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Where is her movie? I think this movie to be out right, right now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right now. Why y' all got her near a finance or a department like, sis don't need to work nowhere where coins could be encountered because she is a thief. Thief is this.

[Dexter Mayfield]

What's that show? Netflix.

[Lacey Mosley]

Jenny and oh, Jenny and oh. My friend Mike writes on that. Jenny and Georgia. Thank you, Judith. Judith just stepped in.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Jenny and Georgia down, baby.

[Lacey Mosley]

Boots.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Boots.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Dana managed to get this job, right? She told Kennedy it was time to go on the run again. But at this point in her life, Kennedy was now 13 and had followed her mother from state to state, barely understanding why they always had to go by a different name while they had to move houses Every few months. And why she always had to leave her friends. So now Kennedy's getting petulant. She's like, shut up, Mom. I don't want to rob another bank, you bitch. I'm going to my room. She was like, over it.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Tell the truth of it all. Tell the truth of it all.

[Lacey Mosley]

She was like, I ain't going on no more high. So, like, she's like, going home. I ain't mad at Kennedy. She signed up to be a criminal. You gotta want to be a criminal. I don't want to place criminality on people. That's not fair.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Ocean's 8 taught us that it's some girl and they some girl thinking that they scam. But it was not Kennedy.

[Lacey Mosley]

It no k said, I'mma I'mma head out. She was like, I don't want to do this no more. I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to run.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I want to be. The remix is so much better.

[Lacey Mosley]

Every time I walk out the door, we're caught up in another scam.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I thought I saw where that one was going.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was like, I got right. Just like, I don't want another step down. I don't want to take away his life. I don't wanna be a scammer. I don't want to be a scammer. I don't want to be a scammer. She's gonna do it no more. Okay.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I don't want to be a scammer no more.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? Like, I don't want to be a scammer no more. I'm tired of doing cons and running out the door like, yes. Like, love it, love it, love it. So delicious. So she was tired of the constant running and told her mother she wanted to stay. Dana said okay and left her in the empty Miami house while she ran to Savannah, Georgia.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I quit. Dana go to jail. Go to jail.

[Lacey Mosley]

That is.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Go to jail.

[Lacey Mosley]

You don't want to come. Okay.

[Dexter Mayfield]

You ain't about to fly. Good to know. Stay your ass. To say house that I paid for with fraudulent funds. Good luck. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Was like, mom. Mom. She was gl. How you going to head out on your kid? How you going to be like, all right, I'mma head out?

[Dexter Mayfield]

Like, wow. I did not expect to hear. I mean, I'm not surprised, but just how immediate. How immediately. She can't. I can't.

[Lacey Mosley]

With the deuces. Like, no.

[Dexter Mayfield]

At the house that is paid for. That fraud built.

[Lacey Mosley]

That fraud built the house that fraud built. This is so disrespectful. To your child. You are a bad mother. And, like, listen, I know all types of people listening to this podcast. Some of y' all have relationships with your moms. Some of you have good ones, bad ones. Maybe your mom's no longer with us. Like, I, you know, maybe your mom was trash. Like, I'm not trying to trigger you. Like, I honestly like laughing, but I'm not. The situation actually isn't funny for the child, but it's hilarious to me that the mom was like, I bet later, like, what? Like this. Your. This your last kid. They took the rest of them away from you, and you gonna dip on the last one. She was standing 10 toes down for you. She was ride or die. You were like, oh, you getting off the ride all right. Bet I'm going to Savannah. See you. Like, she disappeared. She faded out like thanos.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And, you know, she didn't tell her. You know, she didn't tell her. Not one word.

[Lacey Mosley]

So eventually, Kennedy ran out of money because, duh, like, she's a child. Like, you know, some children are employed, but not all.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And not a 13 year old who out here scamming.

[Lacey Mosley]

She ran out of money and had to call the police, which led her back to foster care and living with her aunt. So also wild to me that, like, you run out of money, you're like, hello, 911? I'm broke.

[Dexter Mayfield]

That. That's. That's one way to do good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Should we listen the police ain't. Should we all be calling them and being like, hello, 911? I ain't got the light bill.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I don't have it. I don't have it.

[Lacey Mosley]

They about to turn my gas off. Ma' am, this is not an emergency. Yes, it is. I ain't about to have no heat. So what. What can y' all do for me? Like, let's see if it works. So meanwhile, Dana continued to scam her employees, running off of $30,000 in Miami to flee Asheville. Flee to Asheville. North car line it. So she's still stealing large sums of money. I will say this about Dana. She got self esteem because she ain't stealing. She ain't waking up and stealing for less than $20,000 a day. Like, she's like, if I'm a rob you, I'm a rob you. I'm not taking $50.

[Dexter Mayfield]

All your Montes is mine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Give me the montes. I want all the montes. Yes, Dexter. So Dana re. Dana reenacted her earlier relationship pattern. She began a relationship with A man named Matt. One thing data going to do.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She has to complete the scam.

[Lacey Mosley]

She gonna have a baby. Like, I feel like Dana's almost like a serial killer where they keep trophies. But after every scam, she get a baby. She's like, this baby reminds me of this property. So getting caught. Dana's final days of freedom came when she tried to scam the wrong woman. See, Dana, you know that you live in the realm of scamming cishet men. Why are you scamming women? You know that's not your bag.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Like you said, she got self esteem.

[Lacey Mosley]

And confidence, but it's like, leave the women alone. We pettier these men. At least you got a baby by all of them. And you, like, you trying to put your baby mama in jail, jumping your baby mom in jail. Like, at least you got something on them. Women, they don't care. They can put you in jail. What are you doing? So in fall 2016, she offered her services as a grant writer for. For Nashua, Nashua's mayor office In Nashua, N.H. kim Kleiner, the mayor and chief of staff, looked forward to having more help. Kleiner said she seemed excited and seemed capable, and she was very smart. Yeah, she's all of those things. She's capable of robbing you. So she was found to try to get access to these banks. Right. Kleiner described the situation. She said she wanted to know what account the money had to go into and how it worked, who accepted it, information. And I was. Was like, you really don't need to know that. When denied, Dana supposedly broke down in an emotional, bizarre scene. She was like, I need to know where that money is. What bank do y' all use? I got kids. I mean, this is irrelevant. But it's just really. It's just really upsets me that y' all don't trust me enough to tell me, like, where the bank is at and, like, what's the. The safety.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Give me a key.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Oh, hold on.

[Lacey Mosley]

What? So for Kleiner, this was the last straw. Okay, so she made the weird scene right then. Kleiner eventually told Dana that her position at the mayor's office wasn't working out, to which Dana responded with threats against Kliner's family. So Kleiner was like, hey, you know, you crying about us not giving you the banking information. Very weird. I just feel like this is not a good fit. Kleiner was like, I'll kill you and everyone you love. And she was like, okay, okay. That was a lot. Feels like an escalation. I'M firing you. You're talking about murdering my family. You're like, I know your Grandma live at 824 Porch Lane. She getting it tonight. Like, this feels like a lot.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Honey, she got cat.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said, I'll kill everybody. Do everybody love. So on May 7, 2021, she called her friend in the FBI, Agent Mark Hasselback. How I got so many the FBI.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Okay, first of all, how has this woman been? I'm done. That. That is a hassleback if you ever seen one.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's a hassleback.

[Dexter Mayfield]

That's a hassle back if you've ever seen one. But this woman been scamming Till actual 2021.

[Lacey Mosley]

2021, the year of our Lord. 2021. Through the pandemic, through Covid.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Didn't stop her back the money she got from the pandemic. Lord only know I'm sure she had.

[Lacey Mosley]

A COVID testing center. I wouldn't put it past Dana.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Yo, I'm not gonna lie. I, I, I definitely should have. I, I definitely should have mentioned this earlier, but one of them testing sites definitely scanned me. Should have known when they brought out the nasal swab. Brought out the nasal swab. Didn't have a test. No, it was a normal nasal swab, but they didn't have another test tube to put it in. She put it back, back in the envelope that she got back in. The little thing that you pulled the naval swab out, nasal swab out, came back two minutes with a COVID test that had it circled. Talking about, yeah, you need to take some mucinex. You're just fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

She swiped your nose with a Q tip and put that shit in a smart and final bag and said, you good.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Might as well.

[Lacey Mosley]

That'll be $50.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Might as well love this. I can't believe I forgot about that one.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. And I've talked about fake COVID testing centers on this podcast. Damn, they got you. I hate to see it, but also, I love to see it. Hilarious, but also bad. Also bad. This pandemic is killing people.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Also bad. Also horrible. If you do test positive, better actual testing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Lord Jesus. They was just doing vibes. They was just like, yeah, you feel like you have Covid. No, that was.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But no, you know what? You know what she did? She killed. She was like, guys, you don't have it. I just want to let you know you're fine. Everything's fine. It's okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Disarmed you. Disarmed you.

[Dexter Mayfield]

She disarmed. And then when I went to another testing site, Was a different story.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? Something that actually was legit. So Kleiner called her homeboy Mark Hasselback was like, I hassle back up. So not even hassle back Hasselback and told her about Dana. So she called the F to be in the eye. She didn't even go to the popo. She said, let me call. Hello, government. Hello, F to be in the eye. Yeah. So Hasselbacker accompanied a local police officer to Lawrence's home, where she was hiding in the basement. So Dana then hid in the basement because she knew they was coming for her. When Dana was taken in for questioning, she initially claimed to be Jenna Kaplan and that she was on the run from her abusive ex. So the fake ex who abused her came back up.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Wait, have we gone through all her names yet? Have they listed all of those yet or.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, they have not. She had a lot of names. I don't know what they all are, but she was Jenna at this point. So her real name eventually came out, along with a string of 15 aliases and dozens of scams across 16 states. Do we not have her aliases? Because I really want to know what they are. Are. The ones that we know of are Miranda Matthews, Genevieve Morgan, Jenna Kaplan. She was using the surname Lauder. I feel like this is like that DMX song with, like, it was Keisha, Tisha, Juanisha. It was Cookie. I met her in an ice cream parlor. Like, I feel like she was listening to DMX is what they really want. It was like writing down the names, like, okay, Keisha. And then Cookie, Ice cream parlor Johnson.

[Dexter Mayfield]

But wait, did I read that right? Get out. When she used the surname Lauder, she said she was the heir to the cosmetics company Esther Estee Lauder.

[Lacey Mosley]

To the heir of Estee Lauder, she said, yeah, I'm Jenny Lauder from Estee Lauder. I French wee wee bitch.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I reward.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay, say N. I'm Tim Apple. Like, I made the iPhone. You want a 13 with me? Like, I love this for her, and I'm so proud of her for all these fake names. Like, this is wild.

[Dexter Mayfield]

So she is the Lauder for me. Like, I'm the heir to Estee Lauder.

[Lacey Mosley]

Estelle. It's Lauder. That's how I say so. When she was taking it for questioning, she said, you know, the fake name. They figured out her fake names. Still, she was only charged with one count of identity fraud connected with using Massachusetts resident of Massachusetts Social Security number on an apartment application. The rest related to her many suspected crimes which are past the statute of limitations. Guilty. At her sentencing, her daughter Kennedy requested to give a victim's impact statement, saying, this is her daughter. I think that using a fake Social Security number is like stealing a piece of bubble gum compared to everything else that she's done. Oh, my God. Her daughter don't like her. Which makes sense.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Well, her daughter is over 13 in 2021. Now, her daughter, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

And she left her in a house with no money. She was like, lock this up and throw away the key. Okay? Where are the handcuffs? Bailiff. So, like, lock my mama up.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Might as well give her a gavel.

[Lacey Mosley]

She said, lock my mama up. Lock her up and don't let her out. Don't let her out.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I said, what? I said.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn. Not your own kid. Goddamn. She was released on probation in August 2018 with specific stipulations that she can't engage in any other volunteer activities that would give her access to other people's personal information. Her daughter Kennedy believes her mother is still a threat. She said she's already back on Facebook. Facebook saying she's a grant writer, she has these credentials and graduated from Harvard. Total lies. Damn. Your kids even know that you ain't shit. That's bad. Your kids do not like you. They say, I don't know her. Never met her. My mother, I was in her womb. Never been in her womb. Don't know what it looks.

[Dexter Mayfield]

They said. They said, if you can deny us, we can deny you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, petit. All right, guys, it's time for scammer of the week. When YouTube streamer Valkyrie, Valkyrie, excuse me. First announced the reflect skincare line, the products were met with much excitement. So this is. We'll see if we like this scammer. If we don't like, we just, you know, we'll see where we feel like. The line was meant to offer protection for gamers against blue light pollution. Don't know what that is, but sure, let me put it on my skin. At first, Valkyrie swore that there was valid research involved, but couldn't share that. What, like, what that research? Research was, which is very common because people would be like, it's a secret formula. Krabby Patty can't tell you. Emi stealing child.

[Dexter Mayfield]

The skin care scams of these late times. Purito is dun, dun, dun.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Reflect initially claimed that the blue light could cause skin damage by shrinking cells and accelerating aging and causing redness. Reflect used to release their own studies fearing that other companies, Companies would steal research for their own profit. So they were like, okay, so we did a study. It's just like, how the police be like, we investigated these bad officers, nigga, how you gonna investigate yourself?

[Dexter Mayfield]

We have a task force on it. We have a task force.

[Lacey Mosley]

Internal Affairs. That's too internal for me. Like, why can't I go to court then and be like, I investigated myself, and it turns out I ain't do nothing wrong. Like, let's all investigate ourselves. Then.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I investigated myself, I looked into.

[Lacey Mosley]

Me, and it turns out I'm all good. Like, I asked me a lot of questions and it all checked out. Story sticks. Like, what?

[Dexter Mayfield]

It all came back in the clear for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

You cannot investigate yourself. Like, what? So the claims were later watered down to vague statements and inconclusive evidence after the company subtly changed Reflect website with new information in light of backlash, Valkyrie recants of a lot of the support for the company. Part of the scam also hinged on inflating fears over the harm of blue light, which, though, can damage the eyes over prolonged period, like, staring at screens and stuff. It's not nearly as dangerous as viral marketing has led people to believe. They're like, blue light shrivel you up. You look like the old bitch in Titanic.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And that's what I'm like, here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you can't be in the sun and you can't be inside, what? Where are you supposed to go?

[Lacey Mosley]

Where are you supposed to go? Where the hell can you go? Ultimately, the brand was shut down less than two weeks after its launch. And unfortunately, Valkyrie was likely another most innocent influencer caught up in a scam, having failed due to her due diligence. So Valkyrie is an influencer. She was standing by this product and was like, rub this on your skin. If you playing video games before you put on Mortal Kombat, rub this creams on, because the blue light is gonna make you old.

[Dexter Mayfield]

I mean, look, try just moisturize your damn skin and you'll be fine, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

At least if the moisturizer was moisturizing, then people are getting moisturized, and it's like, did you really lose that much, like, blue light? Like, we believe so much shit that they just be telling us, like, that's my favorite thing is, like, GMO free shit. Or like, gluten free shit. When, like, advertisers be like, this water is GMO free. It's like, I think that's how water work. This water ain't got no gluten in water, ain't supposed to have no gluten. It's not wheat, it's water. Okay? Like, you like, this water ain't got no parabens. Yeah, it shouldn't. That's like something they put in, like, lip balm. Like, what do you mean? Like.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Like make it make sense. Just make it make sense.

[Lacey Mosley]

Or when companies start advertising, like, made with real meat. It's like, what was it made with before? Like, why you telling us it's real meat now? This is confusing. Because it wasn't McDonald's chicken nuggets. All chicken now.

[Dexter Mayfield]

All white meat now. All white meat. Bite me. What was it before?

[Lacey Mosley]

What was it before? It was a little bit of toe jam and whatever we could really scrape up. Like what? I mean, we all know FDA approval is a scam. They just be paying the fda and FBA be like, yeah, it's lit. And then you see a commercial at 3:00am like, have you taken Zantac? Or you had a loved one have now gotten cancer? Turns out FDA was, like, just playing Zantac bad. Like, what? Like, week. So it is what it is. But, guys, we reached the end of the day.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Whoever got that check ready, whoever got that right is approved.

[Lacey Mosley]

This is a fun one. Thanks for sticking with us, guys, as always.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Absolutely.

[Lacey Mosley]

Show Dexter. Where would you like to be found? Anything you want people to see? Any place you want people to follow you? Anything like that?

[Dexter Mayfield]

I am Dex at Dex rated on most platforms. I think Twitter. There's like a deck. And even if you migrate to, like, the Facebooks, just type in my name.

[Lacey Mosley]

The book of faces.

[Dexter Mayfield]

The book of faces. There's a check on my actual profile. So if you don't see a check, it ain't me. So, yeah, hopefully got some things I can tell you about later, but can't tell you about them right now because NDAs are correct.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. Well, follow so you can see when those NDA statute of limitations are up. Guys, as always, Scam got his pod on all platforms. If you want to see all the photos that we've been talking about during this episode, and if you want to follow me. D I V A L A C I divalacy on all platforms, guys. Podspot.com scamgodys get that merch before I switch it up. You know I like to keep the tricks guessing. All episodes of icarly are streaming now on Paramount. Plus, I don't have a season two date yet. Stop asking. I will tell you when I know. All episodes of Blacklist SketchUp Season 2 are streaming now on HBO Max and.

[Dexter Mayfield]

And they all so good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Thank you, congregation. Stay scamming, scam goddess. This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Kargbo, engineered by Marina Paiz and researched by Kayla Brandt. Stay Scheming.

[D]

This has been a Team Coco production.

[Lacey Mosley]

In association with Earwolf.

[Dexter Mayfield]

Adam Pally here and I'm John Gabris. We're a couple actors and best friends who you may know as the host of the TV show 101 Places to Party before youe Die. Now we're bringing you a comedic look at health and wellness with our new show, Staying Alive.

[D]

We'll have guests like our friend actor Jerry O' Connell, ketamine therapist Dr. Stephen.

[Dexter Mayfield]

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