Golf Queens & Scam Kings w/ Katherine Ryan

Summary

Scam Goddess Podcast Summary

Episode: Golf Queens & Scam Kings w/ Katherine Ryan

Release Date: February 10, 2026

Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Katherine Ryan

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features comedian, writer, and TV personality Katherine Ryan joining Laci Mosley to dive into the wild world of scams, with a special focus on a very 2020s phenomenon: impersonators targeting women’s professional golf. The conversation swings (pun intended) from the personal—parenting and marriage as “life scams”—to the hilarious and bizarre real-world stories of romance grifts, classic gender roles, classism in the UK, and AI-driven catfishing.
Throughout, Mosley and Ryan blend sharp observations with biting, genuine humor, unraveling the intersection of fraud, gender, class, and technology.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Katherine Ryan and the "Scam of Motherhood"

• [02:00] Katherine introduces herself and jokes about how in the UK, people are too embarrassed for lengthy credits.
• [03:41] Discussion quickly pivots to politics as a “scam,” with Mosley observing:

  “You just can’t be the President of the United States and not be a war criminal. That’s kind of our thing.”

• [04:39] Katherine shares her relationship with “scams,” calling motherhood “the greatest scam in the universe.”

  "You can have it all if 'the all' is cellulite, resentment… You just can't have it all at the same exact time." ([05:12], Katherine Ryan)

2. Weaponized Incompetence: The Gendered Scam at Home

• [07:06] The hosts discuss the “scam” of invisible labor and “weaponized incompetence” among husbands in household chores.

  “I've learned how to be a man.” ([08:22], Katherine Ryan, about feigning incompetence to avoid dishwasher duty)

3. Men, Pranks, and the “Thrill of the Scam”

• [08:41] Katherine recounts her husband's audacious fast-food “scams,” from false claims for free food to orchestrating drive-through thefts “for the thrill of the chase.”

  “He's in it for the love of the game.” ([09:21], Laci Mosley)
  “Every man is a scam man.” ([08:33], Katherine Ryan)

4. Class, Race, and the “Scam” of Social Climbing

• [13:18] Laci and Katherine riff on classism in England, class signaling through fashion, and the “con” of aristocratic or “old money” credentials.
• [14:42] Laci:

  “Old money and new money—baby, it's all money! …Your family's incestuous, probably. Is that a flex?”

5. Golf as the “Language of Business” and Gendered Exclusion

• [22:20] Both host and guest reflect on being pushed into golf as kids “because it’s the language of business,” and the ways men dominate the sport as escapism and “brotherhood.”
• [23:15] Katherine:

  “My husband started golfing with an Olympic swimmer—turned out, the friend was ‘dogging’ in the woods. Golf is more heated rivalry than you know.”

• [24:01] British-American comparisons on hidden queer male subcultures in golf.

6. Women’s Golf: From Exclusion to Hottie-Driven Popularity

• [26:15] Laci traces the evolution of women's golf from “gentlemen only, ladies forbidden” to a showcase for young, athletic, and attractive players like Nelly Korda and Michelle Wie.
• [27:29] Fashion and the rise of “golf and tennis ho” parties as cultural touchstones.

7. Catfishing in the Links: Scammers Target Men via LPGA Stars

How the Scam Works:

• [32:04] Scammers impersonate LPGA athletes (esp. Nelly Korda) to lure older men who've commented on Instagram, promising dinner, VIP access, or investment deals for a “fee.”
• They request untraceable crypto or gift card payments, backing their ploys with fake AI-generated videos and voice calls.
• Targets are often older (“the average PGA viewer is 64”), unfamiliar with AI and internet scams.

Notable Conversation:

“Leaving a comment like that is cheating… Those men deserve to have their bank accounts drained by like some AI bot or sex worker.”
— Katherine Ryan, [34:16]

“I will never directly message you… I don’t even know what [Telegram] is.”
— Hayley Ostrom, LPGA player, PSA, [65:50]

Actual Cases:

• [54:04] “Nelly” tells one victim she can’t access her money due to a “controlling man,” festoons him with excuses, and nearly convinces him to sell his house.
• [64:06] Golfer Hayley Ostrom describes a man who lost $50k to a scammer and showed up at her house after misusing work resources to find her address.

8. Victim Blaming and Male Entitlement

• Older male victims often (1) blame female athletes for their own gullibility, (2) struggle to accept they've been scammed.

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  “It’s maybe very difficult…to confront they've been tricked… Denial is so powerful.” — Katherine Ryan

• The duo critiques the double standard: men who romance-scam women receive some sympathy, but men scammed in these ways “are simply predators who got uno-reversed.”

9. The Broader Threat of AI Scams

• The duo acknowledges that as AI advances, such scams can target anyone, not just lonely old men.
• [68:03] Katherine:

  “With all AI coming out and everyone having a social media account… the catfishing has reached a new level of danger for everyone.”

10. Scammer of the Week: Caviar Heist

• [71:36] Shout-out to a “less attractive Jason Statham lookalike” who stole $1,700 of caviar from Whole Foods, prompting a “Wanted Wednesday” from police.

“He’s sustainable. He brought his own bag!” ([72:26], Katherine Ryan)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:39 | Katherine Ryan | "I'm currently being victimized by the greatest scam in the universe, and that is motherhood." | | 08:22 | Katherine Ryan | "I've learned how to be a man." (on feigned incompetence for chores) | | 09:21 | Laci Mosley | “He’s in it for the love of the game.” (regarding husband’s fast food scams) | | 13:18 | Laci Mosley | “Old money and new money—baby, it's all money! Is that a flex?” | | 14:42 | Laci Mosley | “Sky Daddy don’t care about your bank account.” | | 23:15 | Katherine Ryan | "My husband started golfing with an Olympic swimmer…Golf is more heated rivalry than you know." | | 26:15 | Laci Mosley | "Golf is for the hotties now." | | 34:16 | Katherine Ryan | “Those men deserve to have their bank accounts drained by like some AI bot or sex worker.” | | 41:13 | Katherine Ryan | "I'm not good at deciphering between AI and not AI. The over 40s, we struggle!" | | 51:14 | Katherine Ryan | "Denial is so powerful." (about victims not believing they were scammed) | | 63:06 | Laci Mosley | "A man in his 60s drove four hours…sent her around $70,000." | | 65:50 | Hayley Ostrom | “I will never directly message you and ask you to telegram me. I don't even know what that is.” | | 71:36 | Show post | “Right now, investigators are on the hunt for a less attractive Jason Statham lookalike who stole $1,700 worth of caviar” | | 76:16 | Both | "Sky Daddy—That's who we worship." (playful religion riff) |

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• [04:39–08:22] Katherine on “scams” of motherhood, work-life balance, weaponized incompetence.
• [08:33–11:23] Husbands’ scams (fast food pranks); class and “white man” thrill-seeking.
• [13:18–15:57] Class and race in UK/US, class signaling as scam.
• [22:20–24:48] Gender and hidden subcultures in golf; tales of “dogging.”
• [32:04–42:43] Anatomy of the LPGA catfishing scam: how it works, elder male vulnerability, use of AI.
• [54:04–56:50] Real-world victim stories: $15,000 and nearly selling a house to “Nelly Korda.”
• [64:06–67:56] Hayley Ostrom on stalker fan showing up after being scammed of $50k.
• [68:03–70:50] Discussion: implications of AI, legal gray zones, difficulty of recovering money lost in scams.
• [71:36–74:35] Scammer of the week: Caviar heist & police social media snark.

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Tone & Language

• Playful, irreverent, and incisive—lots of quick banter, sly pop culture references (“Sky Daddy,” “uno-reverse”), and scathing humor at the expense of both scammers and their marks.
• The show is unapologetically feminist and intersectional, with both hosts equally ready to roast patriarchal and classist “systems,” share wisdom, and poke fun at themselves.
• Vivid analogies and colorful quips abound, as do moments of genuine concern—especially when discussing the emotional harms scams cause.

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Conclusion & Final Takeaways

• Mosley and Ryan both appreciate the poetic justice of men being scammed for objectifying/harassing much younger women, but warn of the rising tide of AI-and-crypto-driven fraud that can ensnare anyone.
• There is emphasis on media literacy, internet safety, and the importance of skepticism—especially for older generations.
• The episode closes on a jocular note, riffing on law enforcement’s “Wanted Wednesday” and the pure absurdity of some high-profile, low-stakes cons.

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Where to Find the Guest:

• Katherine Ryan: @kathbum on social
• Laci Mosley: @divalaci across platforms

As always, stay schemin’!

Transcript

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Hi, I'm Kaitlin Coleman, winner of Target's HBCU design Challenge. This challenge moved me closer to my dream of becoming a fashion designer through mentorship and support. You can find my design along with creations from other black founders in Target's Black History Month collection. Scams cuns Robbery and fraud scams Cause robbery and fraud. Scam Goddess. What's poppin? Congregation it's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another episode of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We'll see along the way. But you all out there. Congregation I'm very. What? Yes. Excited. Thrilled. Today we have a Canadian comedian. Come on. O. Writer, presenter and actress on the show. You've seen her on Canada's Got Talent, serving as a judge alongside Howie May and Shania Twain. She's also known for her two global Netflix comedy specials, In Trouble and Glitter Room, as well as Mrs. And firstborn daughter for Sky TV. And you certainly enjoyed her on 8 out of 10 Cats, a league of Their Own. Yes. Would I lie to you? The Duchess, Romantic Getaway and so much more. Come on, Katherine, be working. Congregation Please welcome Katherine Ryan to the show.

[Katherine Ryan]

We are not used to credits. We don't do that in the uk. So I am Canadian, but I'm based in London, England, and we're just too embarrassed. And you come to America and you sound like this formidable person who's achieved so much.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, you have.

[Katherine Ryan]

I haven't really.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I appreciate your humility, though. But I love this because we always do credits here because people will obviously not be able to get enough of you and then they'll be able to go watch something that you're on or whatever. Yeah. But sometimes credits are weird. I feel like at standup shows, credits can kind of be weird sometimes. And it's also weird if, like, somebody else comes up and they're like, oh, oh, you've seen them on Stranger Things and like every huge show and then the next person they're like, you've seen them around town.

[Katherine Ryan]

He's on YouTube.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, I hated to be around town, but coming up, like, in America, like, stand up, sometimes he was around town, and then you got a couple credits, and people would be like, okay, we'll listen to you more, I guess. I know it's a strange thing.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's nice, though. It makes you feel, like, very positive coming here, and people are just nice, Catherine.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, it's nice. I don't know about that, but the state of our country right now, very not nice.

[Katherine Ryan]

I mean, as a whole. No, your PR is not great at the minute.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, it hasn't ever really been.

[Katherine Ryan]

Well, you've had better times and worse times. Yeah, the Obama times were good times.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, that was our scam. Like, Obama was still doing war crimes. This is it. Obama wasn't scamming. I mean, you just can't be the President of the United States and not be a war criminal. That's kind of our thing. Like, so, you know, he was. He had great speeches and great vibes, and he did do a lot of great stuff. I love the aca. I'm just saying, like, when you sign up for that job, it's like, head murderer. You can be like, well, I want to murder less. But it's like, you still gotta murder.

[Katherine Ryan]

You're bought and you don't.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know, there's kind of the scam of it.

[Katherine Ryan]

An amazing MP in the UK called Jess Phillips, and she was leader of the Labor Party. We didn't think the podcast was gonna go this direction. It'll be brief. No, she stepped down, and I was like, why? Because I love Jess, and she's so moral, and she's just great. But I think she stepped down because she learned once she got to that position, like, oh, everybody's bought. Like, you can't do it in a good way.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, I don't think. Cause I think, like, we always talk about the scam of politicians, and people have seen that viral meme that's like, I wish politicians had to walk around with all their sponsors on them, like a NASCAR jacket. Like, who's paying for you to be in office? So we just know who you're bought by. But, I mean, that's a part of the scam, and everybody's bought into it. We're like, well, we just gotta keep inching along.

[Katherine Ryan]

We open with a scam so fast, Lacey.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, that's what we do here. But I have to ask you personally, what's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you had any happen to you or run any? It could literally be anything.

[Katherine Ryan]

Okay, well, I'm currently being victimized by the greatest scam in the universe, and that is motherhood. Oh, yeah. Such a scam. Patriarchy scam. And you enter into it and you think, this is going to be existentially rewarding for me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And I'll do half of the labor and my husband will also contribute. Oh. And even if he tries, a lot of it falls on the mom, especially a working moment. And you can't have it all. And I think that's really important message to get out. You can have it all if, like the all is cellulite resentment. You know what I mean?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like you can have it all, but not at the same exact time.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's like I got some of the all over here, and then next year I'm gonna have some of this all and then that's it. Yeah. I think we have to look at all as like, it's not all happening simultaneously. No.

[Katherine Ryan]

And so I've had three kids in the last five years, which is a choice that I made. I don't know what I was thinking.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You got a lot of unemployed roommates.

[Katherine Ryan]

Everyone in my house has been inside me. I feel like it's some type of psychosis, like long Covid or something, where I just went, I'm in a breed now. And it's a scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, how old are the children? What's the oldest?

[Katherine Ryan]

Sixteen.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, so we got somebody who can help out a little bit, and she's.

[Katherine Ryan]

Wonderful and I really, I love my children, but I should have stopped there because I had one chic daughter and she was portable and she was amazing and she was my best friend and we could do anything. And then I was victimized by the other scam, which is marriage. I reconnected with my high school boyfriend, and it was meant to be a one night stand, but he really is a great guy. I fell in love with him all over again. We were married nine months later. And then I just was like, oh, another scam. I'm 40 or not now I'm 42, but I was around 40. And I think that women get this push to be like, well, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna have kids or not? Your time's running out. And instead of taking a breath and maybe having one more child, I just went bananas with it. And I had as many as I could.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I feel like I Haven't gotten to that age yet. But what I do hear from people is, like, especially black women. It's like, what are you gonna do? Either have a kid or go to grad school. Go to grad school, get another degree. So I have a lot of friends who are black women in their, like, late 30s and early 40s who, like, went back to grad school, just got another degree, and I was like, love.

[Katherine Ryan]

That for black women.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, why? But also. Okay, now. Now we got a, you know, a forensic accountant in the family. Like, great.

[Katherine Ryan]

I love that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But so back to you. Like, so you have, like, all these children. I mean, obviously you still maintained being able to work so, so much. Yeah, I do think there is a little bit of a scam of, like, everything falling on the mother, like. Cause I don't. And I don't want to shade your man. I'm sure he's lovely. No, no. But I've been going down the rabbit hole of, like, intentional incompetence or weaponized incompetence, where it's like, oh, I could do this thing. But the scam of it is that if I do it really poorly, eventually you'll just stop asking me to do it, and then you'll do it yourself.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And sometimes I wonder with husbands if they're, like, doing that on purpose. Cause it's like, you know how to do stuff, Right.

[Katherine Ryan]

There's a big conversation about weaponized incompetence in our house. I'm the one doing that. So my husband's quite particular about how the dishwasher is loaded, and I just chuck anything in, like, I don't mind.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's beautiful.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah. Thank you. And women in stem, it's really.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I hope you're just sitting the plates, like, right on top of all the little prongs that are sitting up. Just, like, surface area flat.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's it. I'm a creative genius, actually. So this is where they go. And he's always complaining about having to clean the filter, and I don't do it properly. And now he's like, forget it. I'll do it. I'll load the dishwasher. And now that's his job. So I've learned how to be a man.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's beautiful. Scam them back. We know every man's a scam. Sometimes you get a good scam going. And. And. And I. I love those scammen who are real good scam men, but we gotta still scam them back.

[Katherine Ryan]

I think every man is a scam man. So I asked My husband before coming here today because we are such fans of the podcast, what his relationship is with scamming.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, I'd love to know.

[Katherine Ryan]

He told me about some bold scams. Like if he had told me this pre wedding day, I might have reconsidered. So one of the scams that my husband runs, and this is pathetic because.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I don't know, it sounds good to.

[Katherine Ryan]

Me so far, he and his friends, what they like to do is turn up at a drive through and they'll say, oh, by the way, like we were here yesterday and we ordered three cheeseburgers and four fries and we only got one fry and two cheeseburgers. And every single time they'll give him what he counts as like a free cheeseburger and the replacement fries. So he'll pretend that items have been missing on an order just to get a free order. And I said, why would you do that? And he says, for the thrill of the chase.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh my gosh, he said it for Lilah. He's in it for the love of the game.

[Katherine Ryan]

The love of the game. And then in university he had an even wilder. These are all like drive through based scams.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And you know what, you gotta be mobile. Yeah, like, that's the great way, the best way to scam. That's why I'm like, don't give people money if they're on a motorcycle. They're too mobile. You're not getting it. So the other one is he would.

[Katherine Ryan]

Get one of his friends to exit the vehicle and then he and his remaining friend would approach the drive through window in the vehicle. They'd make their order, they would then go to collect at the next window and the friend who had exited the vehicle would just run by and take the order. Like just, just as the woman is handing it out the window, you just fly by.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. Your husband is very unserious. And I love it. I love it. Because who thinks of this?

[Katherine Ryan]

Exactly my thoughts, like, this crazed man just runs between the car and the drive through and takes it. And then everybody goes, what? What just happen? And then they'll replace the order and then they get double of everything. He comes around the corner and picks up his friend again with the stolen. Like, what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I wanna know. I need to study your husband's brain. Because the activities that are going on in here are just hilarious to me. I've actually never heard of someone doing this kind of elaborate play where they're like, okay, you get out and then you run past and I hope he's in Costume. I hope he's got on, like, some rags and he's like screaming and hooting and hollering when he steals the bag. And then your husband is the getaway driver. Feels very mobile.

[Katherine Ryan]

Very mobile.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

This is also giving me. Is. Is this a white man?

[Katherine Ryan]

He is very white.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Yeah. Is it. Is he tall? Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

He's not short.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He got a long neck. No, because if he in the car, it's gonna, you know, it's gonna appear like, yeah, yeah. It's giving me attractive white man who is like, hey, sorry to do this, but we came here yesterday and yeah, we only got two of the four burgers that we ordered. And we love this place. We would love to continue coming back, like, slight little threats.

[Katherine Ryan]

So it is giving white man. Yeah. He's like, life's been too easy for me. How could I shake things up?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. But that's exciting. But I like that he did it in a way that is like, you know, you have like the white people who, like, they're scared of every minority. They're scared of every. You know, they don't clutch their purse in everybody's elevator. But then they're also gonna climb Everest. And I'm like, that makes no sense to me. Like, you should have a fear of one over the other. So I like that he was like, this is my thr. Like, I'm gonna do elaborate drive through schemes at the Taco Bell. Like, oh. Yep, that's exactly what I pictured. Handsome. Yes. Mm. He getting away with all the scams. Yeah. They probably throwing in a little extra.

[Katherine Ryan]

Just cause he is a Tinder swindler for sure.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, he's a fun guy. I can tell. Oh, this is so cool. Everybody's so creative. I'm so glad that he, like, allowed you to share that on the show with us.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, we had a little pre production meeting before I came.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He's not out here, is he? Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna walk out and you never know.

[Katherine Ryan]

Clutch your bag tightly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I know y'. All. Y' all hold on to the tapes the best. Because they would let him in here. He could just be like, I'm here on business. They wouldn't ask, what business? No, no.

[Katherine Ryan]

White man business.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, white man business. They'd be like, of course.

[Katherine Ryan]

Of course you would hate England because the poshest people, AKA the whitest colonizers there, they do all kinds of terrifying things. Like you're saying, like, they do climb Everest.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

They ski relentlessly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

They hunt. They do the most dangerous Things because they have no natural predators.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Once you're the apex.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's like, what am I going to do?

[Katherine Ryan]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I need a little thrill up my leg. Why don't we all drink whiskey and go out to the woods with guns? What could go wrong?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I love it. I mean, I lived in London for a little while, and I had.

[Katherine Ryan]

You did not.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Why did I know this? Technically, I lived in the suburbs of London. I lived in eland Broadway, but I worked in Camden, so. Nice commute every day. But this was in college, and I worked at Camden People's Theater.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I had a mentor there. Her name was Freya. And she was, like, very, very focused on marrying outside of her class. And I guess she had married. She was dating some guy seriously, who was, like, very posh. And so she would work on her accent every day. Yeah. Literally. And she was British, but she knew her accent came from a different neighborhood.

[Katherine Ryan]

So she talked like this, like, I'm a glamour model.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Yeah. And she wanted to talk more like. I was like, okay, what is it more like? And I was listening, like, trying to learn, too. But she was always practicing her British accent. And then after a while, she just stopped coming to work, and I was just running the theater by myself. I was 20 years old. She just stopped coming to work, and I was like, bro, like, you can't. Like, people would call me and be like, hey, when ain't this bill? I'm like, I'm American. I don't know how to pay y'. All. Like, I don't know. Shut the lights off. Fight me. Like, what do you want me to do? But I was just still running the theater for, like, a good month while she was gallivanting, I suppose, Galliv.

[Katherine Ryan]

With this posh man. See, it's tricky because obviously, there's racism here, and there's very much racism in England, but they've also got this extra layer of classism.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And growing up in Canada, we didn't have that. Like, everyone. Some people had money, some people didn't. But we had no aristocracy, obviously. And they. They really divide themselves even more in England because they're like, well, I'm working class and she's posh. And then it was weird to get my head around when I first moved there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It also. But that's such a scam to me, too, because, like, old money and new money, like, baby, it's still money. It's all green. You're like, we go back to da, da, da, da. I'm like, so you're telling me your family's incestuous probably. Like, is that a flex? Like, your cousins be getting married? Like, I don't care. But it is nice how people are always trying to make some kind of distinction between the classes. Like, I remember when, like, logos and stuff were, like, really popular amongst, like, upper class, like, rich people, like, old money. And you would see a Gucci label or you would see, like, a Prada label or whatever. And then once, like, the middle class starts to be able to, like, have access to that, they say, oh, that shit is ghetto. Throw that away. Throw it away. We're doing quiet luxury now. We doing $5,000 white tees. And if you know, you know. No, but I do like delving into the class warfare sometimes because it's such a scam and, like, how you can't ascend from one rank to the other. And, I mean, but whatever it takes for people to feel good about themselves, I guess. I don't. Yeah, I mean, that's why, like, so many people who are, you know, don't make a lot of money are, like, super religious and pious. It's like they don't follow the rules of the Bible, but they like to talk about it because they're like, well, I'm rich in Jesus, so I'm better than you because I got Sky Daddy on my side. So Sky Daddy don't care about your bank account.

[Katherine Ryan]

Sky Daddy. I've never called him Sky Daddy. And I'm going to start.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You should Sky Daddy that. And when I say people are trying to kill me, I'd be like, they trying to introduce me to Jesus.

[Katherine Ryan]

Trying to introduce me to Sky Dad.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Katherine Ryan]

Whoa, what a world Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A world that I don't know a ton about, but I hope it gets the WNBA treatment.

[Katherine Ryan]

It deserves it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes, it does. Because, like, I personally, I love going to WNBA games. The only bad thing about them starting to get more recognition is that, like, I used to be get courtside seats to Liberty, and it was like I was tricking off. And it was nothing like, now them prices are going up.

[Katherine Ryan]

You should be very anti women's basketball. Then you should take it down as a lover.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Feed them less.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And broadcast them. No more.

[Katherine Ryan]

Exactly that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They're like, why she. She's always at every game, but she's very anti the sport.

[Katherine Ryan]

For someone who hates it. She loves it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She loves it. I mean, that's most haters is you just love something in the opposite way. Because why are you so dedicated to hating?

[Katherine Ryan]

True.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So once I learned that, did that ever help you, like, learning the scam of people hating me? Also, just being a fan really helped a lot.

[Katherine Ryan]

I think Cardi B has really been transformative in that respect because she's. Well, I always had quite thick skin. I was impervious to criticism. I think, as a lot of us are, if we go into comedy, you have to have that innately anyway. But she's the first one who really put it out, being like, you're obsessed with me. I would feed it and I love it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She does feed it.

[Katherine Ryan]

She does.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, you're right. I like that. So, I mean, like, women's golf, obviously. I mean, I don't know a ton about it. I'm not gonna presume how much you know about women's golf. I mean, I had heard of some pro golfers. The only one I knew who was, like, trying to get into the sport was, like, Trump's granddaughter. And I know that against my will.

[Katherine Ryan]

Oh, right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I didn't wanna know that. No, but. So there's some scammers now impersonating hot lady pro golfers, like world number Nelly Korda, and they're putting the fans and real athletes in danger. Ooh. So is this Nelly?

[Katherine Ryan]

So wait a minute. Is this a scam impersonation or. This is her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So this is the real Nelly and she is a baddie. Wait, can we zoom in a little bit more? Is this Sports Illustrator?

[Katherine Ryan]

She looks great. Isn't it fun being a woman? We can be like, can you zoom in on that body?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm looking.

[Katherine Ryan]

Respectfully, I did not know female golfers looked like that. Like, with respect to the lesbian community, I thought that it was more of a mask sport. For women.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, it can be. I feel like it's like basketball. Like, you got your baddies in basketball, but you also have your, like, more kind of butch queens in basketball. I mean, look at it. Another reason why I love women's basketball, because sometimes they be dating, and then they be on opposite teams, and I'm like, oh, my God, he did rivalry.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. So, I mean, I hope that they're doing that in golf too. Y' all get together, y' all start. I want to see, like, a fight. Why do we never want that with men? No, I. I would love to see, like, old golf dudes fight as well. I feel like it'd be the slowest fight fight ever, but really enjoyable and quiet.

[Katherine Ryan]

I'll tell you, my husband golfs relentlessly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. My dad does, too.

[Katherine Ryan]

Golfs and golfs and golfs. All right, so you're in the. The golf world.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, very much so. I got my first set of pings when I was 8.

[Katherine Ryan]

And did your dad try to make you a good golfer because he told you it was the language of business?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes.

[Katherine Ryan]

And, you know, he wasn't wrong, because imagine the scholarships you could have if you had pursued golf. So did you not like it, or you weren't good or both?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I didn't particularly enjoy it. I never really applied myself. I liked the golf clubs because they had hot pink handles, and I liked driving the golf cart. And my dad quickly saw that I was not interested in this. I'd be more likely to pick up the golf club and start singing into it than to, like, actually be serious about it. And I know that probably bummed him out that he neither of his girls.

[Katherine Ryan]

Golf, but imagine if you could, in addition to all the other things you do, Wouldn't it be cool? Like, I think it's badass to be a female golfer who's actually good, because it was. Would silence men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And I have seen a lot of clips online of women who are at the driving range, and just by being a woman on this earth, it signals a man to come and teach you what you're doing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And they're trying to get behind you and be like, move your hips this way, square up.

[Katherine Ryan]

And these are professional golfers who are much better. And then they watch a few swings, and they go, oh, okay. But what I was gonna say about my husband, just a little gossip for you. Watch your husbands watch your dad when he's golfing, is my. My husband started getting on with this other golfer in the neighborhood, and, you know, How? They can't really golf alone that much. They do foursomes. And then his friend was all over the press. He's actually a British swimmer in England. Olympic swimmer, maybe. I'm not sure. But he's got a public profile because. And I think this is very mean of the British tabloid press, but they followed him, and they realized that near the golf course, he was dogging. Are you familiar with the term dogging in America?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No.

[Katherine Ryan]

It means having sex in the woods with other men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh.

[Katherine Ryan]

It doesn't always have to be other men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We call it, like, cruising.

[Katherine Ryan]

Cruising. Oh, yes, of course. Cruising. And so Bobby doesn't golf with him anymore. But golf is more heated rivalry than, you know, like.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, of course. I mean, it's men who want to just hang out with other men all the time, which I love that for you. I love that for you. Be bisexual. Be gay. Go in the woods, I guess, and do what you need to do. But. But I mean, also, like, I'm trying to imagine, like, how your husband. Like, he was like, all right, we're headed to the next tee. And he's like, hold on. I'm. Be right back. Y' all tee off. Y' all tee off. I'mma just go to the woods real quick.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's 18 holes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Not enough, right? No, he's that 19th hole. Right.

[Katherine Ryan]

Or maybe my husband was involved, and maybe that is the true scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No.

[Katherine Ryan]

Start with the drive through.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, your husband's too handsome. If he was involved, somebody would have got some pictures of him.

[Katherine Ryan]

True, true.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, they would have got you. They would have took you right down with him.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, yeah, they would have.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Your face would have been there. Like, I would love that.

[Katherine Ryan]

Katherine Ryan is married to a gay man. It was kind of my destiny.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I feel like it is mine, though. Like, I've dated way too many gay men. Now I vacation with them despite their friends.

[Katherine Ryan]

Why do they scam us?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Because we're divas.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's true.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, we gotta take a picture so people can see this fabulous outfit. Thank you. Yes, I see it. I see why.

[Katherine Ryan]

I appreciate it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But so we have this beautiful woman, right? We got Nelly Korda, and golf is for the hotties now. So, like, you were just saying Katherine, like, we didn't know, but golf is for the hotties. I did not know white granddads used to say the letters in golf stand for gentlemen only. Ladies Forbidden, not female Woman Haters club. Okay. So since the modern game was invented in Scotland in the 40s, it's been mostly older Guys. And they've been out there stroking it on the green in whatever way they stroking it. But it started in the 19. But starting in like the 1950s, US women got to play in their own version of pro golf, like in the league. Over the last 30 years, it's become a hot girl sport thanks to pioneering young female players like Michelle we, who like went pro at 15 years old. I feel like I remember Michelle. We do know her. Yeah, yeah. In 2005, with sponsorships from Nike, Sony, Omega Top Golf, and she opened in the US in 2005.

[Katherine Ryan]

Can I say, is it necessary for them to use a photo of her on her knees for this segment? Do you see what I'm saying?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. What photo?

[Katherine Ryan]

They're like, let's get Michelle we on her knees. How often is a golfer on their knees?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, when they're looking, she's probably about to putt, of course.

[Katherine Ryan]

But do we see.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She's gotta put her in her hand.

[Katherine Ryan]

Do we see Tiger woods in that pose? There's sometimes it's almost like a paparazzi.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But this does feel like it's like her booty look good and her legs look good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's like an upscale getting out of.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

A taxi a little bit. A little bit. But I will say, as a certified car carrying hoochie, I would want them to have that photo of me. I'd be like, yes, look at me, baddie. But you're right, look at this one. Even her skirt is like a little. But at the same time, I'm like, you gotta do work. What you got?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So I'm not too mad at it, ladies. But so like, you know, Michelle, we got it popping off. She has all these sponsorships. She opened in the US in 2005. And in the rise of cute golf athlet outfits, like happened in 2023. And I remember that because it was like the golf athleisure outfits. And then most recently we had the tennis athleisure outfits blow up. Okay. You think I'm getting on everybody's court the way I got tennis skirts and like little collared sleeveless shirts.

[Katherine Ryan]

Tennis is cute.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Tennis is so cute.

[Katherine Ryan]

We used to have parties in high school themed golf pros and tennis hoes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow. I did that in college. CEOs and corporate hoes. Wow.

[Katherine Ryan]

But.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But y' all was ahead of the time doing it in high school. Yes. I love a golf pro. Santana's house. This sounds very Canada.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, it was.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's like hoes, hoes, hoes, hoes.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, we got up to it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I was trying to get that accurate.

[Katherine Ryan]

Young, we're from a small town, so.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, okay. So that all there was to do was to, you know, hang out with the homies.

[Katherine Ryan]

And I'm older, so we were hoeing a lot younger than the young women are choosing to hoe now.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, y' all got freedoms that we didn't too because, like, parents used to just like, let your kids be like, oh, we're going over so and so's house. And then like, come back whenever. Okay, see you then. Like, I was very monitored. I didn't get to really party in high school, but in college. No, I, I, I, I made up for lost time for sure. But I love that. So a Round of 18 holes of golf does count as a hot girl walk now, which it should, especially like if you're caddying or you have someone caddying for you. Like, if you're using a golf cart, it's not that much exercise, but if you're walking the greens, it can be very intense.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's walking for like four or five hours.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. In the hot ass sun. I always wanted to be a cart girl. At one point. I thought that'd be a nice little scam. Just like mix drinks and drive around.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's a great scam. I think you get tipped.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And you could really, like, work it with these old men who are golfing and just drive around and drink lemonade.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's what I was trying to do. And then just be somebody's like, personal assistant. Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

I wonder if the boys are excited about this hot female inclusion in their sport or if they feel threatened by it. If they feel undermined, if it bothers them that they're like, holy man. Place to presumably fuck in the woods has been ruined.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Oh, right. Because now they, well, they could probably. No, they gonna get caught now.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They gotta go to the showers like the real gays.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So. But it's interesting to me because I feel like it's twofold. Obviously you're gonna have like your weird misogynist who are like, ooh, there's hot tail on the green now. And you know, and they're gonna be like, oh, hope you can golf as good as you look. Because, oh, my, go to get that from comedians. Comedians. Now that me and my DMs congratulate me on shit. Like, I hope you're as funny as you are cute. Like, sir. What? Get out of my face. I'm funnier than you But I feel like there's going to be those types of people who are going to be like the misogynist kind of chasing them. And there's the other side of the misogyny that's going to be like, this was for our men, like you were saying, like, this is where we go do our woods activities. Like, get out of here. Women. Either way, obviously those aren't both. Neither of those are positive responses for the women. But at the same time, I always kind of wonder how many golfers are actually good at golf or how many of them just like to go out, have a drink with the boys and just hit balls and shirk them. I know, because they can't all be good. As many guys that I know who golf like, I've golfed with my dad. I know his handicap. I know he's actually pretty decent.

[Katherine Ryan]

What is his handicap?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, God. Want to say just something with. Yeah, I mean, I want to say nine.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, that is very good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, it's decent. I mean, he's in his 60s.

[Katherine Ryan]

But I think if you work all week and then you have the weekend to spend with your wife and your family, presuming you have that, and instead you choose to walk around in the sun for five hours, then you're just killing time. You just want to get away from people. Yeah, but I don't know, like my husband, I think his mental health depends on being able to golf, like being able to do a sport. I think also men don't really talk to each other.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right.

[Katherine Ryan]

And so they need to be doing an activity. That's excused. Right. And they're not making eye contact, they're just kind of walking. And at some point in the five hours, someone will be like, by the way, I'm getting divorced. And that's the only way you get it out of them because they're. They're not ready for like face to face discussion. Like a woman, you'll come over, you'll have like girls around, you'll tell them everything easily just like over coffee or whatever.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Anything. Guys are like, yeah, my dad's terminal four.

[Katherine Ryan]

Like, like you gotta distract them with athletics.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's difficult to have those chats on a basketball court.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, that's true. I mean, although they will talk shit and they'll have their little break or, or when they're wiping their little sweat, they'd be like, so how's the kid? How's the family? You know, and that's when they do their. My wife's divorce and me thing. Yeah, man, yeah, you're absolutely right. We can just sit down and talk. We can literally go somewhere with the intention of catching a. They have to be like, no, that's for women.

[Katherine Ryan]

We will just hit balls.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

We got a sword fight for a little bit before we start catching up. Oh, yeah, racquetball. They love racquetball too. That's a big one for them to catch up. So classic social media bait and switch is gonna happen here. So we got the hot girls on the course. They're revolutionizing the sport. We love this for them. So where there are hotties, there are catfish pretending to be them. And women's pro golf is ground zero for imposs online. Whoa. Now the women just got into pro golf. You already trying to scam them. That's not right.

[Katherine Ryan]

So what are they doing? People are posing as pro golfers.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. So let's say an older man enjoys the sport of golf and is looking for an attractive woman. See, I told you there was gonna be creeps. So he's a fan of a good looking player like Nelly Korda and he comments looking good smiley face on her verified Instagram account. Right. And so this smiley face, I have to know, is a colon and then parentheses.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So not. Not an emoji.

[Katherine Ryan]

No. Elderly smiley face.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Elderly smiley face. Yeah, like, you know that smiley face. Get the balls are hanging low.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

On that smiley face. So wow, that was like unnecessarily graphic. So I think I thought of Sex in the City where Samantha was dating that old guy. And then he like gets up from the bed and his butt is like all saggy. Oh, like, she was like, no, I can do. He gets up at naked. And she was like, I'm out. I have to go.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, that's a golf butt.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Golf butt. Definitely a golf butt. So once the guy, you know, hits on Nelly's real page and is like, hey, baddie, you looking good. He's gonna get flooded with replies From Nelly Korda Official 63 and Nelly Korda Fan Page 2 and Love Nelly 69. Telling him that they are the real Nelly and that they want to talk to him on telegram or whats where there are no social media moderation tools.

[Katherine Ryan]

I love this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So they were like, ba you hitting on her on a real page. Imagine someone monitoring your comments and hitting on the people who hit on you.

[Katherine Ryan]

And you know what I love about this is I think that leaving a comment like that is cheating. I think any interaction. And there are so many married men, so many who think that having some type of flirtatious or sexual interaction with the celebrity doesn't count as cheating, Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But it is.

[Katherine Ryan]

And so I think that those men deserve to have their bank accounts drained by like some AI Bot or sex worker who's gotten onto this scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right? Who's got the skillset? I agree with you. I think that there's a way to appreciate. I know. It's like, oh, this is a celebrity. They're so far away from me, I can never get with them. So I'm allowed to just like be putting thirsty ass emojis under their account. No, no, no, no, no, no. I will give you liking the picture. Yeah, you can like it. You can be like, like, great outfit.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh my gosh. I saw a TikTok. I went down a TikTok rabbit hole the other day and there was a guy and the woman was like, why do you have a picture of this girl? Like, why is this girl sending a picture of her thong in your phone? And he was like, oh, I was gonna buy that thong for you. And then she was like, well, why is there a picture of her without it? And he was like, she must have sold it. I was like, this is genius.

[Katherine Ryan]

Don't stop at nothing.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

If you give me an excuse like that for liking a slip or thirsting on Celebrity Pick, I'd be like, you know what, Fine. So our golf fan doesn't know any better, right? So he contacts this fake Nelly on her WhatsApp, where the scammer often offers something attractive like a private dinner, VIP access to a tournament, or an investment opportunity for a fee.

[Katherine Ryan]

Not an investment opportunity.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Investment opportunity. Listen, not ftx. So he makes an untraceable payment via cryptocurrency or gift. So that's how they get them. And mind you, these are like kind of older guys, so they don't know how the Internet hustle really works. And I, I'm. I believe that the great setup for the scam is, is that the old creepy dude has already left a comment showing interest on the real person's page. So they're not thinking that anybody else is reading their comment and then finding them. They're thinking like, this must be the real deal. My lucky day.

[Katherine Ryan]

Oh my gosh, I love this scam. I feel like it's a victimless crime.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I mean, cause like, what are you trying to hit on this lady for? So golf fans, like kids or grandkids, are eventually able to convince him that he's being scammed. So payments stop and the scammer disappears, never to be Caught eventually. Pop Pop is bragging too much while they're watching the Women's Open. He's like, yeah, I'm going on a date with her next weekend.

[Katherine Ryan]

We were making investments together already. It's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They're like, papa, what? I don't think y' all are making any investments. So it's a classic social media bait and switch. And especially it's effective in the golf community, where the average age of the PGA tournament TV viewer is 64 years young.

[Katherine Ryan]

Genius.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Ooh, that's perfect. I also am on your side of this is the perfect scam too, because at your big age, why are you trying to hit on any of these people who could be your children or your grandchildren?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like, you're already being a predator. So they just like, uno reversed you.

[Katherine Ryan]

I love that. I'm gonna start doing it myself, actually.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Right. I'm gonna get on. I'm gonna start following these girls. Let me get a list of everybody so I can get on there and be like, hey, it's me, Nelly. I am so horny for you too. Oh, send me a citizen. Citizen home. I can't even say senior citizen home. Send me the address to Shady P and like, I'm in. I'm in.

[Katherine Ryan]

I love that you consider 64 year old men predators when they're going after. How old is this young woman? Like, 20? Yeah, it is predatory. Just because they're of age doesn't make you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Not because you're 40 years older, my guy. What do you have in common with somebody that you're 40 years older than?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, like a love of golf. A love of the game, I guess.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Golf. At least they could say they got golf in common because the rest of these creepo ass men can't say anything.

[Katherine Ryan]

We can take this scam outside of golf. You know, if I had the kind of time that I. I wish I had, I could just go through like any kind of old man commenting anything on a celebrity's page and try to scam them. But I'd really need, like, a lesson on cryptocurrency and all the. All the other admin that goes into this scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, like the untraceability of bitcoin and things like that. I'm not great at signal. No WhatsApp. I only use when I'm out of the country. And then like, my friends who live in other countries, they'd be like, lacey, I hit you up like, must go. And I'm like, girl, I don't use that. When I get back to The States. That's for crime, okay? We all know it. Like, why do I need to go over there with you? Give me your number. So I, I agree with you. The only reason that I would say, like, this is easier and I think this is perfect is because the demographic is so easily narrowed. Like, it's right there for you because that's the average viewer of golf. Whereas, like, if I'm going on Megan Thee Stallion's page, like, the age range is going to vary so much before I get to somebody who, who's like thirsting after the booty and then I'm like, I got you. Like, I had to put in more leg work.

[Katherine Ryan]

I think you do. But there will be some 64 year old white men on there for sure.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's true. What's another like thing that they like that young people do, huh? Maybe tennis.

[Katherine Ryan]

Well, golf is the sweet spot for old men. Especially old men with money. Yeah, it really is the best. Because I suppose they play darts, they like cricket. Older men.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's true. They like cricket.

[Katherine Ryan]

Like cricket. But this, this new wave of young sexy women in golf as you describe. Yeah, it's just the perfect time for this.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And nobody's talking about new sexy cricket ladies. No one's like, not yet. We could change that. We could, you and I, we could change that. I could get into cricket. I don't know if the cricket guys are like throwing that money up though, like that, you know, I never heard him like, oh yeah, he loves cricket. We're on his super yacht. Like, I don't know if those go together. So. So obviously these older men are also more liable to fall for obviously fake AI altered videos of players using their names. So now we have an AI altered video right here where basically we got a little cameo. Let's play this. Hey, Rodney, how are you doing today? This is the real Nelly Korda and your only privilege to get a video from me. Get your fans card and let's start a conversation.

[Katherine Ryan]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay, so AI is getting a lot better with these videos. But this one is like, hello, it is me, the only Nelly Corda.

[Katherine Ryan]

Let's have conversation, start and talk so much good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You sexy hot.

[Katherine Ryan]

So this, this money's going out of the country.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Out of the country for sure is what we're learning. Someone used Google Translate. Cause no one was like, hi, it is I. Real Nelly Corda. Like, they would be like, hey, I told you it was really me. It's nice to talk to you, Rodney. No, they're like, rodney. Too many syllables were pronounced in this video.

[Katherine Ryan]

I'm not good at deciphering between AI and not AI. I will say the over 40s we struggle with it. And it's always like a night vision video of a lion rescuing some other animal. And I believe it every single time.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It's getting so much harder. Like, even. Even now I be getting got with AI on TikTok. Like, I'll look at something on TikTok and oh, this is cute. But before, because sometimes it, like, just looks too crazy. And so I'll go into the comments and people be like, this is AI. Or I'll look around the video for anything that's blurry because, like, AI used to be required to put, like, the Soros label on it or something like that. And now people are posting it and they're just like blurring that out. Or they're cropping it so much that it crops out the logo that says it's AI. So they're getting more creative. I saw one last night of display. It was. Was like a lady on a slide, but it was like in the mountains. Like really high up in the mountains. And this guy is behind her. And you can tell he's like the guide for this. So he, like, pushes her down this huge slide, I'm talking like 100ft onto this huge trampoline, almost kind of pillow thing. And then she shoots into the air and mind you, this just a cliff right next door. And then she comes back down and kind of bounces a little bit. And it looks so realistic. And I was like, there's no way in hell this is a thing. Yeah. And then started looking into it. I was like, yeah, it's AI, but it looks so realistic. It made my stomach flip because I was like, this is terrifying looking. But again, these are white thrill seekers. So for a second, I was like, this could be a thing. Maybe they're catapulting themselves into the stratosphere.

[Katherine Ryan]

How it read are these posh people. But that was crazy. Like, that you would have to be definitely, like, elderly.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Elderly, because you're looking at a mouth and a face saying your name. And if you're not adept with like, like, like. Let me just hear the Rodney again. Hey, Rodney, how are you doing today? That today really gets me today. How you doing today, today? And then it's like, this is your only opportunity. Like, who says that to somebody that they're talking to? Yeah, like, this is your only opportunity to talk to me for real.

[Katherine Ryan]

Someone with an investment proposal.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

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[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So par for the course. Love that pun. Online impersonators have taken off within the Ladies Professional golf association, the LPGA in the last five years. Pros like Charlie Hull, Lexi Thompson, Michelle W.E. west Morgan, Jennifer Capucho, Hannah Gregg.

[Katherine Ryan]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow. These are. This is. Is this a Runway show? And Nelly Korda all have publicly posted warnings about the scams to their followers. I mean they some maddies. They look good.

[Katherine Ryan]

They are Let your fan base be scammed. If your 64 year old fan base wants to put some like lecherous comments then let them be scammed.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

At the same time I'm like maybe they were like but maybe I to want want to get really involved with the old man. The bum is always out.

[Katherine Ryan]

The bubba's out on her team.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, this one is more egregious like the other one I kind of saw like it could have been an accident cuz she was like looking for the putt but like she. But she tooting that thing. Oh she is. She wanted to Toot it. They know what they doing and I'm not mad at it.

[Katherine Ryan]

What a scam. I'm on board. I love it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm on board with this golf and. But you know what would make me feel bad is if I was in the LPGA and nobody was scamming my fans. Cause I'm like, I'm not sassy enough. Next, next, next, next Open, I'm coming out in a thong. Cause y' all not gonna outdo me. This is it.

[Katherine Ryan]

This is why they've got all their little bumps out. Try to get.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Okay. So golf influencers Paige Spraonik and Hayley Ostrom also have spoken out about the dangers of scammers. So these are also just some real cuties who were like, scamming is bad.

[Katherine Ryan]

She is a golfer.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, I guess. Part time model, full time golfer.

[Katherine Ryan]

I wonder if it's too late for us to learn golf.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, never too late. These guys are so old. This has got to be a low impact sport.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, they don't start until they're older. Sometimes some of them have to like get a business before they start golfing. I don't see a lot of like 19 year old boys golfing. They start in their 30s.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I do in college, I do. There was like a golf team and I knew some guys who like love to go golfing and stuff. But I guess it just depends on where you are. But I definitely would be down to get on the golf course. I don't even care if I'm not good at it. If there's some great business opportunities to be made, I'll get out there and cheat. I don't give a fuck. I'll shirk the ball right into the sand. And then I'll be like, oh, oh, I'm on the green, y'.

[Hayley Ostrom (LPGA Golfer)]

All.

[Katherine Ryan]

They'll be blowing each other in the woods anyway.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They won't see you. And then when they go to blow each other in the woods, I get my ball.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's our cheating window.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's our cheating window. And then I place it right on the green. And they're like, yeah, that's crazy.

[Katherine Ryan]

I feel like I'm gonna lose my husband to one of these weapons. And if I don't learn golf because my dad remarried a woman who loves to golf and they golf together all the time and it's actually so cute. And what, what is your husband doing? He's sucking off his golf mate in the woods. If you are not part of that foursome.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You heard it here, guys. Ladies, gentlemen, They's thems. If you got a partner who likes to golf, you better start golfing too. Otherwise they gonna be.

[Katherine Ryan]

He's in it for the shaft. Do you know how many straight, quote unquote, married men turn out to be gay or will just indulge in a little bit of gayness on the side? And they don't think that makes them gay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, bisexuals exist, but these men.

[Katherine Ryan]

Don'T identify that way. They think that they're straight. They think it doesn't count. Because I hear this relentlessly on tour. I've done a show recently where I ask the audience questions for dilemmas. And time and time again, like, so much more often than you would think. Gay men are either reporting that married men. Men have sex with women.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Katherine Ryan]

Or people will be like, oh, I found these texts on my husband's phone. What? With his mate. But like, he think. Or his friend and he thinks it doesn't count. Oh, yeah, you've lived in. Your American listeners might not know. Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What's sad to me about that is, like, just live your truth. Like, hate for a woman to now have her life stolen by you because she's your baby making accessory machine. Whereas, like, you could have been out here living your, you know, woodland fantasies, left that lady alone, right? And she could have been with somebody who actually wanted to be with her and not have free labor, occasional sex and baby rearing.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I'm like, that's not fair to that lady. That's why I get. I understand when people are upset. Like, I think everyone should live their truth. But I really understand when women are upset that they've married someone who eventually outs themselves or turns out to be gay. Cause I'm like, you stole that lady life. You ain't ever really want her. And like, that's not fair. No. And I mean, I know everybody has to live their truth and come out at their own time, but I just feel like that's such a patriarchal thing to waste a woman's life because you are afraid to live yours.

[Katherine Ryan]

And maybe you had reasons for not living your truth, fine, like you said, but that doesn't negate that woman's experience. You could have left everybody out of it, Right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Lesbians do it all the time. You know how many aunties I had coming up who didn't want to come out the closet, but they had a roommate who was always in linen at the family reunion? We know what was. Yeah, but it's like, they weren't bothering no man being like, be with me.

[Katherine Ryan]

Like, you know, can you imagine? Oh, that poor lesbian would just be tortured by her fake husband.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She really would.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Although I do love a lavender marriage and I feel like I'm gonna end up in one. And that's fine for me. As long as we agree. We're like, we like to travel, we like to split bills.

[Katherine Ryan]

Did you see Vivienne Westwood? Vivienne Westwood is in one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

She just recently came out. I think her husband was like, oh, yeah, I'm gay. In the happy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, we both want tax breaks and we do. Yes. I mean, to each his own, but yeah. I just don't like the scamming of the lying of it all, so. But more than once, the victims of the scams have continued to blame the golfer for their financial losses, even after being confronted with the truth. And some simply refuse to believe that they have not been interacting with the real athletes. So there we go. Now this is pissing me off a little bit because here y' all go. Misogynist. How are you going to blame the golfer for you being so stupid?

[Katherine Ryan]

Uhhuh.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What that got to do with her?

[Katherine Ryan]

Do you think she needs your money? Do you think it was really her?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. And like, how could she have stopped that from happening? You put your thirst online and made yourself a target.

[Katherine Ryan]

I think it's maybe very difficult for these men to confront that they've been tricked and scammed.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And also, I don't think they want to let go of the fact that maybe it was the real her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

So they're like, no, I was not scammed. Like, denial is so powerful.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. And shame is what's behind it. And then also, so I think about, what if these older men were like, on the golf course and they're showing these messages and these videos to their other buddies and then. And they're thinking like, their Delulu is so outta control that they think this young, hot Sports Illustrated lady golfer wants their knapsack ass. And then when it gets outed that obviously this is fake. I'm sure they're so embarrassed too.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah. They're like, how dare you?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But if I'm gonna be embarrassed, I'm not gonna be mad. If I was like these old dusty men, I would not be mad at the golfer. I would pretend that it was the real person for the rest of my life. I'm like, no, it was her. Everybody else got scammed, but me and Nelly had something real.

[Katherine Ryan]

We did.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I had to Break it off with her though, because, you know, her schedule just too crazy. That was like.

[Katherine Ryan]

She had a really weird voice and her English wasn't great.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

English not great. And also just body too hot. You know, it was just. It was a lot. And, you know, between her, her tours and stuff, I was just like, you don't have enough time for me and the family. So, yeah, I fabricated a whole life that we had together.

[Katherine Ryan]

Double down on the scam.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, double down. That's the. That's the nice way of having delusion. I feel like the other way of getting mad at the golfer who did nothing to you is just fucked up. But if you want to double down on delusion, I mean, we all know you lying, but whatever makes you feel good. So romance scammed after joining a Nelly Corda fan page. Nelly, you out here? You got them down bad.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah, they like her.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That Sports Illustrated page got. Tore everybody up.

[Katherine Ryan]

You need to see her Instagram.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She got the golf world in shambles. Single handedly.

[Katherine Ryan]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So after joining a Nelly Corda fan page on Facebook In June 2024, an unnamed 72 year old man from South Carolina received an email from someone claiming to be the real Nelly Corda. Email was quickly turned into texting. Texting morphed into phone calls, and within days, he told his daughter that they were in love. Did you know they can clone your voice with AI?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

For a phone call now too. He sent her $15,000 each time he confronted Nelly about the inconsistencies in her story. She had an excuse for everything, so she. So, Nellie, baby, why you need my money? Cause I see you on Sports Illustrated with that thang. Thang him. And Nelly said, I have no access to my money due to a controlling man and family. Oh, I was gonna come see you, bookie, but my flight got canceled. The last one. The scam warning on court is verified. Instagram. Oh, baby, that's for everybody else, not you, boo.

[Katherine Ryan]

No, no, no.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What we doing is real, but I'm protecting everybody else. That's fake.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So she had excuses for everything. He was preparing to sell his house at her request when she said she had broken a bone in a car accident. But the real Nellie was still out and about golfing with all her bones.

[Katherine Ryan]

All of them.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Mm. And that's when he decided it was a scam.

[Katherine Ryan]

Oh, so he did figure it out on his own.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It got to real estate agent before he figured it out, so. That's way too far. You about to sell your home.

[Katherine Ryan]

See, this makes me sad now. Cause he seems like a nice man in love.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I don't know about that. He's 72. I'll give him this. If he had a. Maybe he got a little dementia.

[Katherine Ryan]

Sure.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And like that can lead to a lot of gullibility and there's different like levels on the spectrum of, you know, like more high functioning dementia and then when it gets to the late stages. So I'm gonna give him that. Cause maybe. Cause he is 72.

[Katherine Ryan]

He's living in the notebook. He thinks he's young.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, right. He might be living in a notebook.

[Katherine Ryan]

But it is far more likely that.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No he living in the notebook. I mean, I don't know because also I want to say he lived in a notebook, but he was smart enough to read her the real Nelly's warnings about scammers in the Instagram bio. So it's like he did try to do his due diligence when she didn't come. He said the flight was canceled when he asked why she needed money. So he was asking questions, he was confronting fake Nelly. I don't know, man. I might not be able to feel far sorry for you, my guy. Cuz it seems just like I love.

[Katherine Ryan]

That these bot accounts or these whatever they are fake scam accounts. They're like the new Chris Hansen. Do you remember what was it called.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

To catch a Predator?

[Katherine Ryan]

Catch a Predator? Yeah. Has that gone off air or do you still have it?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, it got lots of lawsuits after a while for entrapment.

[Katherine Ryan]

Entrapment, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cuz technically the. The up just like they were. So yeah, there's some like gray area there legally. Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's a shame. You should be able to entrap pedos is my opinion. Any way you can. Poor Chris Hansen. What's he doing now?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, he's doing great. I think he's still out here catching them piddos. He got all types of ways to do so.

[Katherine Ryan]

Good, good.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Good to know he's dedicated and I love that for him. I mean, I hate romance scams though, so it's hard for like I'm looking at this from multiple angles because I'm also. I'm looking at a 72 year old man who was sitting on a woman who was way too young for him. But then I'm also looking at someone who's clearly lo. Yeah, like you were willing to sell your home. So he's probably thinking, I don't have that many years left and I can sell my home and I'll just go on tour with my favorite golfer and live a thrilling, exciting life.

[Katherine Ryan]

But the audacity of it. Yeah, the audacity to take your ass.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Down to the Shady Pines and find you a woman your own goddamn age.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. No, I don't feel bad again. I'm isolating.

[Katherine Ryan]

I think if a romance scam involves a 50 year old.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Then I can't figure out, then you.

[Katherine Ryan]

Can get on board.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, that's a no for me, dawg. So victims become threats. People have shown up at tournaments who thought they had sent money to have a private dinner with a player and had to be removed by Torchstone Global, a security firm used by the LPGA. So now these weirdos, they done sent $300 to Romanian Nelly, and now they showing up demanding they dinner at. At the freaking. Like, at this lady's place of work? Yeah, at the lpj. That's where she works, bro. That's her job. How you gonna show up at any lady's job and be like, you saw me. We were going on a date. Like, if we were going on a date, when we coordinate that, that's terrifying.

[Katherine Ryan]

It is terrifying. And the fact that this has happened multiple times, like, enough for it to be reported, enough that the security's like another one. I was scammed once. I'll tell you. It was a bad scam. Are you familiar with inflataphilia?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No, but I'm interested.

[Katherine Ryan]

So it's like a sexual kink? Not to kink shame anyone, but you do have to have consent to do your kink on someone. They like balloons being inflated. So when I was working at Hooters, this guy called with a radio voice. We all know what a radio voice is. He's like, this is Kevin Ross from cbwee. Whatever. And he goes, if you can inflate your pain because we wore pantyhose, I'll give you $300. And I was like, great. So I ran to my manager. I said, can I inflate my pantyhose for $300? I think I can figure it out. He played on my desire to be smart and figure out puzzles. I was like, I can do this. My manager said, no, no, it sounds like a scam. And I was like, oh. So I got back on the phone. I said, I'm not allowed. He said, well, you don't have to do it as a Hooters waitress. You can just do it as a college student, as a private citizen, with your roommates, whatever you want to do. Yeah. And I was like, okay. So I gave him my Phone number. And then he st started calling our flat, like, again and again and again. And I would. I put plastic bags down my nylons. I did not think this was sexy, so I didn't realize it was, like, a fetish.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And I would inflate them with a bicycle pump. He had us running down to, like, the gas station, using that tire pump, doing all these different photo shoots for him. Sometimes he would have a photo.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

So you met him in person?

[Katherine Ryan]

No, I would just email him the photos and the money never came. And. But he would say, go to the gas station and inflate your pantyhose there.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Like.

[Katherine Ryan]

Like he had us, like, out and about.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow.

[Katherine Ryan]

And I still didn't know it was a skim. Then he'd have us.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And you're so young.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah. I was speaking to him on the phone. He'd be like, for the radio, you have to say, you're floating up to the ceiling and you're worried you're gonna pop. And we would do all this, like, role play of balloon stuff that I did not know was sex. Then sometimes he'd be breathing weird. He would always call us in the middle of the night. Anyway.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

See, that pisses me off too, because there's so many people in the kink community who are willing to have a fair exchange to do that kind of stuff. And instead you decided to from young girl.

[Katherine Ryan]

Exactly. Trick them and put us on kink fetish websites. Oh, my God, those photos. Yeah. And he knew my address. Cause I gave him my address to send the money. And the money never came. But damn, it was bad. So I went to the radio station to look for my money to be like, I've been inflating my pantyhose time and time again. Like, where is all this cash? And the woman and pressed a button. She goes, steve, we got another one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

No.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah. So he'd been doing it to loads of women. So then producer Steve came downstairs and he was like, nobody works at the radio station who's, like, doing this entertainment segment. You've been scammed by an afflatophiliac, and there were loads more girls. And that's how we knew. Wow.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And I would say the difference here is that you were promised money in exchange for, like, you know, a wacky competition or whatever. That's what you thought was happening. You weren't showing up, trying to be like, where's that man? And I want to be with him. Like, you're like, can somebody just give me my money? That I was told I was going to get. But I understand the parallel here of like what you're doing is like you were taken advantage of and you were trying to get compensated. Whereas in this situation, yes, these, these men were taken advantage of by a scammer. However, if you have not been contacted by this person, but maybe the scammers were being like, come to the turn. That's it.

[Katherine Ryan]

They were looking to be compensated, but with dinner, right?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

But I just love that in both cases the, the staff are aware. The staff are like, ugh, another one.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause this happens so many times. They're like, oh my God, Gene, can you go down there? We got more of them inflatable girls. Mm. Like at this point I'm like, the radio station's irresponsible. Cause why aren't they just saying like, hey, we don't have a guy who works here and does this. Like if you hear this, like just like these women were trying to be like, hey, we're not, we're not trying to hit on you. I've never wanted to be with a 72 year old man in my life.

[Katherine Ryan]

So it would be a weird segment on the radio though, just to be like, just so you know, none of our presenters will be calling you and asking you to inflate your pantyhose for sexual gratification. Next, the traffic, like what?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, it would be entertaining though. That would get some Nielsen ratings going. I'd be like, I'm listening to this station every day because what y' all got going on? So a Pennsylvania man in his 60s drove four hours to Liberty National Golf Club in Jersey City, New Jersey for the Mizuho Americas Open. So he was there to meet a 22 year old American golfer, Rose Jang. He told tournament staff that she had left a VIP package for him and booked him a hotel room. He said he had been talking to her on social media for over a year and he had sent her around $70,000. Rose's agent confronted the man, breaking the news that he was not communicating with her. Now again, Rose is 22. You are in your 60s. Yeah, but I think because the Delulu probably comes here because $70,000 to a 22 year old is a lot of money. I mean, mind you, she is playing golf and she's getting endorsements. So she's making way more money than the average 22 year old. But I'm sure somebody in their 60s would think that a 22 year old might be swayed by 70 grand.

[Katherine Ryan]

Right? But I mean these women are breaking their bones. They're like having family troubles. They're finding reasons that they need money from these old pedos.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Another 68 year old man from California went to several tournaments to see South Korean gol for ng chun after losing $50,000. So he went to several tournaments at this point in stalking because he's saying he lost $50,000. Maybe you didn't lose $50,000. You gave $50,000 away. And there is a difference because at no point does somebody hold you up at gunpoint and tell you to give an Internet lady 50k, like that's on you, buddy. And in January of 2025, a man showed up at Haley Ostrom's home after losing $50,000 to an account impersonating her. Here's a video of her telling left his own accord without making any threats. But the online scammer got away like they usually do and is probably still doing the same thing from different accounts. So we have a little video of her telling this story right here.

[Katherine Ryan]

Imagine it's the same scammer, the one who's really good at getting like hundreds of thousands. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

What if this is like one small.

[Katherine Ryan]

Organized crime, One woman with a bunch of accounts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, they, whoever they are, they're genius because this is a niche.

[Hayley Ostrom (LPGA Golfer)]

On Monday, I got a message from one of the courses that I frequent saying that I managed to came in and was looking for me and asking about me and asked them to contact me. He left his name. I did not recognize his name and I basically chalked it up to this is probably a follower. Just let it go. I dropped it and forgot about it until last night when that man showed up at my house. It was a very scary situation for me and I have never had anything like that happen before. He was able to get my address by abusing his job at his work and finding all of my information. It turns out he had been messaging a fake Hayley Ostrom page, thinking that it was me and sending them $50,000. He was obviously mad when that person stopped messaging him. So he figured out a way to get to me and came to my home. I was very scared and had even texted my parents during this interaction. Interaction telling them to send cops to my house right away. He did not make any threats and he did eventually leave on his own free will. But as you can imagine, I don't know his intentions. And because some of the situations that have happened in my past with some followers, I was very skeptical and scared and not going to take any risk. So I felt the need to put this video out there. So that is in my feed that I do not message you on any. Any other accounts. I will never directly message you and ask you to telegram me. I don't have a telegram. I don't even know what that is. Okay, I will not ask you.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I like the psa. I mean, looking at her just phenotypically, this. This is the type of blonde white woman that gets every fantasy projected on her. Not to say this doesn't happen to people of all races. I've had people show up at former addresses of mine looking for me. Yeah, my landlord, like, called me and like, I had moved already and they were like, hey, somebody just came into the building. They were looking for you. They weren't like I was delivering a package or something. She was like, no, it didn't give me that vibe at all. She was like, I would just like, be careful. But no one knows where I live now. I don't even have my name anywhere where you can see it. And also, if you buy a house, buy it in a trust. So golf hotties, if any of you guys hear this, if you're buying homes, buy that in a trust. Don't buy that in your name, cuz that's public record. Yeah, yeah, so. But she said they use his. His. I wish that she had clarified what his job was, cuz she said he used his work at his job. And I was like, girl, what that mean?

[Katherine Ryan]

Probably a police officer is always a police officer. Gotta be.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Gotta be.

[Katherine Ryan]

So this guy is a psycho, cuz, you know, and men will stop at nothing. I love that she's giving him grace to be like, you know, he. He wasn't violent. He left on his own accord.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

He was violent. He came to your home. That's violence.

[Katherine Ryan]

He also abused his position of power to find your ACT address. Like, even if it was the real Haley messaging him, that is.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And what in his mind was the best case scenario? He already knows that he had been scammed. He already knows he was talking to a fake person and gave that fake person money. So what in your mind do you stand to gain by coming over to this lady's house unannounced? What do you think she was gonna open the door and be like, oh, I'm the real one. Have sex with me. Like, what. What is the best case scenario here?

[Katherine Ryan]

But I wonder if he thinks just like when men buy a drink, they think they're owed something. I wonder if he does feel that he is owed from whom, whatever, but.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

50 grand, why he didn't use his Work at his job to track down this camera.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause that's who owes you.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And it's probably a man.

[Katherine Ryan]

I know. It is probably a man. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Cause men know how to talk to other desperate, thirsty men.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yep. Mm.

[Katherine Ryan]

It'll be a man far, far away. It's a man who knows how to use telegram.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's exactly what it is. So we're gonna wrap that scam up here. We do have a little scammer of the week before we get out of here, but I just wanna get your final thoughts here. Like, how do you feel about this scam, Lacy?

[Katherine Ryan]

I love the scam because for once, we are predating upon these, like, older men who think that they deserve access to a very young woman whose frontal lobe is still developing. And I don't like that. And I think that they're perfectly positioned to be scammed. But then I think there is, like, a larger message that this could happen to anyone. This could happen to any of us. With all AI coming out and everyone having a social media account, and it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Is happening more and more. And, I mean, you think about media literacy, like. Yeah, I feel like it's the older generations and then the younger generations who have less media literacy when it comes to AI and things like that. So I think about, like, kids in high school or, like, what if your favorite pop singer, like, hits you up and asks you to meet somewhere? Meet and greet, or, you know, oh.

[Katherine Ryan]

My gosh, the catfishing has reached, like, a new level of danger for sure for everyone.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I miss old catfishing when it was like, I'm Bruno Marsh, I'm dating little Bow Wow. Right. And I need $10,000 from your grandma. Yeah, Like, I miss that kind of catfish.

[Katherine Ryan]

But also, I think sometimes with AI, and we've seen this with, like, sexual exploitation already, the law is starting to catch up. So Paris Hilton was just speaking publicly about when her sex tape was maliciously released. Back then, we could slut shame her. It was like the punchline in a lot of jokes, this sex tape. But really what happened to her was a sex crime. And that's how we look at it today. Same with Monica Lewinsky. She talks all the time about what she went through. She was, like, the first person to be Internet bullied on that scale.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Pamela Anderson.

[Katherine Ryan]

Exactly. Was slut shamed. All of these women. And I think one thing I will say about the men who've been scammed is that there just isn't the legislation to help them recover that money, because they have been defrauded yeah. But I don't think police work or the justice system has caught up with what AI is capable of. And, like, this cryptocurrency that you mentioned, and, like, these people are uncanny catchable. And that is a shame, because if you are scammed out of 70 grand, there should be some recourse for you to get it back.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. And. And at times there is, but that typically only happens when you have a serial romantic fraudster. Yeah. So if you're a serial romantic scammer, they'll start to add it up and they'll. You know, like, most of the time, people won't get their money back, but they'll get some sort of justice sometimes. But it is very rare, especially in romantic scams, because there's such a huge gray area where it's. Like, in this one, I feel like with the AI, it kind of lends itself to, hopefully, a better fraud case. But I feel like in other romantic scams where the person is presenting to be who they say they are, they're just lying about their whole circumstance to you, it's kind of like, well, how do we negotiate for, like, are we gonna put people in jail for lying?

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

And that's like, that's a gray area.

[Katherine Ryan]

Although, who was it? Was it. Was it Mariah Carey? Yes, it was Mariah Carey who was married wasting.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

For her time.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

She sued for her husband wasting her time. Yeah. And Mariah Carey's time is so expensive, we can't afford Mariah Carey. So we're gonna wrap this episode up with scammer of the week. This is where we highlight a charlatan who may or may not be worthy of our praise. Or maybe a group of criminals. We'll see. Right now, investigators are on the hunt for a less attractive Jason Statham lookalike who stole $1,700 worth of caviar from a Whole Foods in Irvine, California. This is a very accurate depiction of what this man looks like. However, if I were this man, I would be offended because how you gon call me a less attractive Jason Statham?

[Katherine Ryan]

Well, it's true, but, like, damn, Jason Statham's catching strays. He's like, hang on.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Jason Statham? If Stevie Wonder drew him from memory, like, what? Why would you say that to me?

[Katherine Ryan]

I was expecting someone far more attractive.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I was, too.

[Katherine Ryan]

Than this less attractive Jason Statham?

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

Wait a minute. You can still. $1,700 of caviar from Whole Foods. Whole Foods has cav. Caviar.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Hofus does have caviar. But I imagine that's probably not that much caviar. Whoa, Look. But his hands look a little full. So let's see. How much is some beluga caviar right now?

[Katherine Ryan]

Oh, like $50.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I forgot. Okay, so $1700 worth is still, like, a very pretty, heavy, full bag.

[Katherine Ryan]

Well, there is caviar. That's way more expensive, but not Whole Foods caviar.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Wow.

[Katherine Ryan]

All right, so he's just mad for the fish eggs, but I was thinking.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It would be from, like, a sturgeon. Like some beluga.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

You know, because it was just like, all. Lots of fish have eggs, and they're called roe. You know what I mean? Like, but so he does this right? In California, it happens in December at the Whole Foods located on Irvine Center Drive. The police department threw unnecessary shade at the culprit in a Wanted Wednesday post, asking for the public's help finding the thief. So this is what they said. This is the police department in Irvine.

[Katherine Ryan]

This is not Jason Statham filming an action scene in a grocery store last month. This man entered Whole Foods, selected several items to appear as part of a typical shopping trip, then concealed about $1,700 worth of caviar inside a paper Whole Foods bag that he had brought with him. So he's sustainable. He ditched the basket and exited the store with the caviar instead. If you recognize him, please contact Detective Drake. Detective Drake.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Detective Drake is a hater. Yeah, he said not so action film. No. I gotta love it, though.

[Katherine Ryan]

I like that police. Local police stations are intentionally trying to go viral by doing cute stuff like this. Like, I've seen a few posts on social media where, like, whatever, marketing manager of the police force is now a millennial.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

The millennials are cops now.

[Katherine Ryan]

That's it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's what it is.

[Katherine Ryan]

They're trying to be funny.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

They're trying to be funny. But this is very millennial coded. Although I want my police to do police work. Like, stop getting out here and asking us to tag people. Go. Go look in the streets. Put some posters up. Like, do your job. What you mean? You getting on social media. Like, tag us? No, do your job.

[Katherine Ryan]

A special Wanted Wednesday.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah. Wanted Wednesday is kind of cute, though.

[Katherine Ryan]

Fugitive Friday.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Fugitive Friday. Yes. Thieving Thursday. Oh, yes.

[Katherine Ryan]

Scamming Saturday.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Scamming Saturdays, for sure.

[Katherine Ryan]

Sunday, you take off Sunday.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, that's the Lord. That's the day of rest. What does it mean? Made off Mondays.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah. You got something for the whole week.

[Katherine Ryan]

I like that. We don't know that many types of Crime. We're pure of heart.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I mean, I'm trying to think of, like, what we could be. Mischief Mondays. That's for, like, my Misdemeanor Mondays.

[Katherine Ryan]

Misdemeanor Mondays, Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. The state them stand in was bald, had scruffy facial hair, and was dressed in all black. He tried to disguise his crime by putting a handful of everyday items in the basket. Right. Meanwhile, he was, like, filling the whole. Whole food bag up. I love that you said he was sustainable, because I agree with you. I feel like that that's really admirable of him. And now I don't want him to get caught. Whatever, like, dinner party he's throwing where he needs this caviar or, you know, if he's selling caviar to, like, struggling Real Housewives.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. You know, they get it off the truck. Now everybody can't maintain on Real Housewives. You know, a lot of them ladies renting those homes.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's a scam for sure. I think high end theft is definitely inexcusable. You can't be stealing caviar. If you need to steal bread for your family, you need to steal, like, apples, bananas. Go ahead.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I support yar. So valuable. I mean, it's really kind of unethical that we're, like, cutting these sturgeons open, bleeding them dry, and then chucking them back in the ocean.

[Katherine Ryan]

It's the handmaid's tale of fish.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

It is. And I mean, we're kind of making. We. We create the value of things. So whatever. If I make a, you know, shoestring bracelet and I charge $50,000 for it, if somebody wants to buy that, that means that it's now worth $50,000.

[Katherine Ryan]

Called Kabbalah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, it is called Kabbalah. Okay. And I'm bringing it back, guys. Thank you. You know, that's why we got Scam Goddess. We do all the red and stuff. And so, yeah, we're gonna do a scam bala. Okay? We worship the scam goddess. That's not me, guys. I swear, okay? That's somebody, some other entity that I'm also worshiping. And, you know, we give what we can. A month.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Every month.

[Katherine Ryan]

As much as we can. Get you closer to Sky Daddy.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, that's how you. Yeah, maybe it's Sky Daddy. That's who we worship. We worship Sky Dadd Daddy. That sounds like Hot Pockets. Oh, my goodness. Katherine, this is such a good time.

[Katherine Ryan]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Thank you so much for being here.

[Katherine Ryan]

With my jet lag and scratchy voice.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, you sound amazing. People are going to love your voice. It's like asmr. It was very velvety. I really enjoyed it. We always ask on this show, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug? Any social medias. It could be anything.

[Katherine Ryan]

Oh, yes. My social media is kath bomb. Just k a t h bum. I. I don't know why. Yeah, my parents called me that, and it was a mistake to put it as all my social media.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I think it's kind of co cath bomb. Very easy to remember, too. Yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

And then that's it. Like, I live in the UK and I probably won't be coming back to America.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

That's smart.

[Katherine Ryan]

I don't know what will be left. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Katherine Ryan]

When.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

When the wars is over.

[Katherine Ryan]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

But I don't know if people really want to go to these wars. I feel like everybody is knowing. They're realizing that we're being scammed now. I hate that it took, like, our white people so long to be like, oh, my gosh, like, things are getting better. Snatching people off the streets. They're shooting them with no probable cause. And black people was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we said, I can't laugh at a time like this. It was like, it's always been at this time, though, so you could laugh. Or like how we keep comparing everything to Nazi Germany. And I'm like, did y' all forget that the Nazis took their playbook from Jim Crow? We are the originators of the playbook. Hitler was watching us. The call has always been from inside the house. Yeah, but I feel like people like to use 19 or 1939. Like, 19, you know, 30s Germany, because we were the heroes in that case. So it's like, oh, look at the. This is getting bad. Like, when we had to defeat those Nazis. And it's like, yeah, we were the heroes then, but we gave the heroes the playbook. Don't forget that scam. I don't know why I'm saying that right now. I'm gonna get out of this podcast, but, yeah, y', all, you can see any of my live shows that are coming out. March 26th, I'll be in Chicago at the House of Blues. April 9th, I'll be in. I need to look at it because I can't remember.

[Katherine Ryan]

I love that you remembered even one without looking.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

I've been saying them so often that I was like, maybe I got it, and I think I overshot it. Okay, so March 26th, Chicago, Illinois. I'll be at the House of Blues. April 9th, I will be in Irving, Texas. That is my hometown. Y' all better show out at the Punchline Comedy Club. April 18, I'll be in New York City, the Grand Mercy. And April 30th, I'll be in San Francisco, California, at the Cobbs Theater. You already know that show is going to be crazy. Congregation, you can follow me at D I V A L A C I Divalacy on all platforms. And if you want to see the photos of all of these very beautiful golfers and then a very, very ugly scammer at the end. So just, you know, and you can.

[Katherine Ryan]

Follow me at divalacy. 69 investment.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, yeah. Diva Lacey. 69 investment. Homes and private dinners.

[Katherine Ryan]

Homes and private dinners. It's a long handle. You will remember it.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Yes. Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros, and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

[Trevor Noah]

Hey, what's going on over there? It's me, Trevor. Noah. You know me. You don't know me.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Oh, you do.

[Trevor Noah]

I was worried there for a second. Well, if you know anything about me, you'll know. I love having interesting conversations, conversations where we scratch beneath the surface, like what's really going on in the news? Or what is that celebrity really thinking about that scandal that they had? Or what's the worst way to. I mean, you want to find that out so you can be the best parent, right? Well, regardless of what it is, this podcast is all about figuring that out, talking to interesting people who have interesting ideas that give us an interesting perspective on the world that we are living in. So check out what now with Trevor Noah, available wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lacey Mosley (Scam Goddess)]

Hi, I'm Kalen Coleman, winner of Target's HBCU design challenge. This challenge moved me closer to my dreams of becoming a fashion designer through mentorship and support. You can find my design, along with creations from other black founders, in Target's Black History Month collection.