Is MrBeast Being Scammed? w/ Matt Rogers

Summary

Scam Goddess Episode Summary: "Is MrBeast Being Scammed? w/ Matt Rogers"

Release Date: August 5, 2025
Host: Laci Mosley (Scam Goddess)
Guest: Matt Rogers

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with host Laci Mosley welcoming listeners to another installment of Scam Goddess, the comedic deep dive into the world of fraud, scams, and the various perpetrators behind them. Laci sets the stage for a lively and engaging discussion, promising insights into some of the latest and most intriguing scams.

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2. Guest Introduction: Matt Rogers (00:00 - 02:25)

Laci introduces her guest, Matt Rogers, a comedian, actor, writer, and co-host of the popular pop culture podcast Las Culturistas. She highlights Matt's notable appearances in shows like Fire Island and I Love That for You, as well as his Showtime musical comedy special, Christmas. The introduction is peppered with humor and enthusiasm, setting a friendly and relaxed tone for the conversation.

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3. Matt Rogers' Personal Scam Stories (02:25 - 25:54)

a. Psychic Scam (31:53 - 43:36)

Matt opens up about a deeply personal experience of being scammed by a psychic during a vulnerable time following a heartbreak. He recounts how he was persuaded to pay significant money for spiritual cleansing with promises of mending his relationship. Despite initial signs of manipulation, such as urgent requests for money and prophetic claims, Matt eventually recognized the deceit with the help of friends and his therapist.

Notable Quote:

• Matt Rogers (32:16): "I was so heartbroken and so vulnerable and so devastated."
• Laci Mosley (40:35): "She was like, it's actually good that we stop, because I actually had another vision last night."

b. Beyonce Renaissance Tickets Scam (43:37 - 47:34)

Laci shares her own experience of being scammed while attempting to purchase highly sought-after Beyoncé Renaissance concert tickets. Despite multiple attempts to secure tickets through official channels like Ticketmaster, she ended up overpaying on a secondary website that failed to deliver as promised. This led to frustration and disappointment, highlighting the pervasive issue of ticket resale scams.

Notable Quote:

• Laci Mosley (43:52): "It was a total scam shame I have in my life."
• Matt Rogers (46:44): "I just want to be left alone by everyone involved in this situation."

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4. Historic Hoodwinks: Celebrity-Associated Scams (25:54 - 86:22)

a. Mr. Beast Experience (53:29 - 83:57)

The primary focus of the episode centers on whether YouTube sensation Mr. Beast (Jimmy Donaldson) is being scammed. Laci discusses the failed Mr. Beast Experience at Resorts World Las Vegas, drawing parallels to infamous events like the Fyre Festival. Attendees paid exorbitant prices for immersive experiences that fell short of expectations, leaving many disappointed.

Notable Points:

• Failed Promises: Attendees received minimal merchandise and no promised experiences.
• Refunds and Responses: Resorts World issued minimal refunds, and Mr. Beast's response was seen as deflecting blame onto the hotel.
• Public Perception: The backlash mirrors that of other high-profile scams, emphasizing the importance of brand trust.

Notable Quote:

• Laci Mosley (55:38): "It's a huge problem. It is a massive."
• Matt Rogers (78:05): "I am not. Don't you dare put it to me ever again about Mr. Beast."

b. Top 10 Celebrities Used in Online Scams (83:43 - 86:22)

In a dynamic segment, Laci and Matt unveil a list of the top 10 celebrities most frequently exploited by scammers. They discuss how these figures' names and likenesses are used in various fraudulent schemes, from fake endorsements to deepfake scams.

Top 10 List:

1. Scarlett Johansson
2. Kylie Jenner
3. Taylor Swift
4. Anya Taylor-Joy
5. Tom Hanks
6. Sabrina Carpenter
7. Sydney Sweeney
8. Blake Lively
9. Johnny Depp
10. Addison Rae

Key Insights:

• Scarlett Johansson is notably the top target, with her image used in unauthorized endorsements and AI-generated content.
• Kylie Jenner and Taylor Swift follow closely, reflecting their immense popularity and influence.
• The discussion highlights the vulnerability of even the most beloved celebrities to identity theft and brand manipulation.

Notable Quote:

• Laci Mosley (87:14): "Scarlett Johansson has also spoken out against non consensual AI generated content."
• Matt Rogers (83:52): "Tom Hanks would be like, welcome everyone, he's so trustworthy."

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5. Discussion on Famous Scams with Celebrity Associations (86:22 - 91:59)

Laci and Matt delve deeper into specific scams involving celebrities, addressing issues like the misuse of celebrity brands in fraudulent activities. They emphasize the need for media literacy among fans to discern legitimate offers from scams, especially in an era dominated by AI-generated content.

Notable Points:

• Media Literacy: Importance of educating fans to recognize and avoid scams.
• AI Deepfakes: The rise of sophisticated deepfake technologies makes it harder to verify authentic endorsements.

Notable Quote:

• Laci Mosley (90:12): "We grew up with media literacy. They don't have it no more, so they don't know if this stuff is AI or not."
• Matt Rogers (89:36): "I feel like you have to be very careful and thoughtful with how you're spending your money."

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6. Conclusion and Wrap-Up (91:59 - End)

As the episode winds down, Laci and Matt reflect on the discussions, reiterating the importance of vigilance against scams. They encourage listeners to engage on social media to share their thoughts and experiences. The episode concludes with promotional segments for upcoming projects, including the premiere of the Scam Goddess TV Show on Freeform and Hulu, Matt Rogers' appearances, and Laci's book release.

Notable Quote:

• Laci Mosley (96:12): "Stay Scheming. Explore so many ways to save for back to school at home."
• Matt Rogers (93:37): "Podcast every Wednesday and Las Culturistas. The culture awards are August 5th on Bravo, and they stream the next day on Peacock."

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Key Takeaways

• Personal Experiences Highlight Common Scams: Both hosts share their own encounters with scams, providing relatable insights for listeners.
• Celebrity Influence and Vulnerability: High-profile celebrities are prime targets for identity theft and fraudulent schemes due to their massive influence and fan bases.
• Need for Media Literacy: Educating the public on recognizing and avoiding scams is crucial in combating the rising sophistication of fraud tactics.

Notable Quotes

• Laci Mosley (04:30): "Stay regular."
• Matt Rogers (32:16): "I was so heartbroken and so vulnerable and so devastated."
• Laci Mosley (43:52): "It was the biggest scam shame I have in my life."
• Matt Rogers (46:44): "I just want to be left alone by everyone involved in this situation."
• Laci Mosley (87:14): "Scarlett Johansson has also spoken out against non consensual AI generated content."
• Matt Rogers (83:52): "Tom Hanks would be like, welcome everyone, he's so trustworthy."

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Resources and Further Listening

• Subscribe to Scam Goddess: Available on Apple Podcasts, SiriusXM Podcasts+, and other major platforms.
• Join the Scam Goddess Con-gregation: Engage with the community on Instagram at Plan B Instagram.
• Upcoming Projects:
  • Scam Goddess TV Show: Premiering on Freeform and Hulu on January 15th.
  • Las Culturistas Culture Awards: Set to air on Bravo on August 5th and stream on Peacock the next day.
  • Laci Mosley's Book: Scam Goddess available in audiobook and physical formats through various retailers.

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Stay tuned for more episodes every Tuesday, with classic episodes re-released every Friday. Remember, as Laci always says, "Stay Schemin'!"

Transcript

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Lacy Mosley]

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[Matt Rogers]

You do.

[Lacy Mosley]

Congregation, please welcome this gem, this light, Matt Rogers, to the show.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm obsessed to be back. I'm so happy to be back. I think you're the coolest. And I have been scammed since we last spoke.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh.

[Matt Rogers]

And I've been wanting to get it off my chest, so it's like, I get to see you And I get.

[Lacy Mosley]

To a safe space.

[Matt Rogers]

Expound.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. And I was gonna ask, like, how are you? How are you doing?

[Matt Rogers]

I'm doing really good. We filmed the Las Culturistas Culture Awards last night, which was our truly started as a bit on the podcast, I think literally there was one week where Bowen and I just. Pop culture was dry that week. And we were like, all right, what the fuck are we gonna do? And we decided to just, like, get on and like, pretend it was like a stupid Oscars and be like, the nominees for Best Breakfast are eggs. And like, we just, like, did that for an hour as a joke, never wanting to do a real awards. And then our fans were like, the readers were like, when are you gonna do the awards? We're like, the awards are canceled. Just kidding. And then Lincoln center had this, like, Summer in the City concert series. Like, not even concert, just, like, they had like a space in the. In the. In Lincoln center where people could do shows. So they offered us a spot. We did it. Now four years later, it's an actual real thing on Peacock, and it's coming out on Bravo August 5th. It's gonna stream on Peacock the next day. So we fooled them into. We scammed them into letting us do the awards. It feels like that. And so last night we shot it. And I cannot believe what they let us film and get away with. And I'm really excited for everyone to see it. Scamdom got em.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's so funny. Cause, Matt, I think sometimes one of the things that I always have resonated with you, like, just seeing you out in the wild or wherever we run into each other, is that you're this, like, gorgeously talented human being who's beautiful and also, like, deeply, deeply talented. But you are regular as fuck. Like, you, like, yeah, you do the Hollywood shit, but you're still like a regular human being. Like, you're regular. Regular as fuck. Like me. Like, we're very regular.

[Matt Rogers]

So stay regular out there.

[Lacy Mosley]

Stay regular.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm telling you. In more ways than one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. I just spilled a water. We had a water spill, but don't worry about it. It didn't touch the computers. We're fine. We're fine now. The team is running in here. God damn it.

[Matt Rogers]

No, but this is good. This is live. This is how you know that we. There is a team. You know what I mean? Like, if you didn't think that this was an operation at home, there was a spill here and people jumped into action.

[Lacy Mosley]

I wanted to finish my thought because I was being flagrant. I started waving my hands around. We always, like, open the water bottles and anything that I'm gonna drink because there's misophonia. And the girlies who have misophonia, they're like, we don't wanna hear you swallow or chew. So I'm like, I can't swallow, chew, or breathe while we do this.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, we were talking about how podcasts have changed back in the day in 2017, when Bo and I would do this. We just get on here and, like, if we hadn't eaten dinner, we would just eat dinner while we were recording. And people would be like, you're physically hurting me. Literally.

[Lacy Mosley]

They were like, you are attacking my. My nervous system. And I was like, really? And they were like, yeah, you can't eat. And I was like, are you serious? But, like, back to the regular thing, like you mentioning, like, Las Culturistas Awards and you and Bowen mentioning that on your show and laughing about it. I think sometimes that we share this thing where, like, we don't understand that there is a power that comes from us. There is, like, a genius. And we don't lean into that. Cause we're just frolicking and being like, hey, we having fun? Like. And so then everybody absolutely was gonna be like, las Culturistas. Yeah, you absolutely do an award show. Like, I'm learning so much about myself this year, especially after my birthday, where I'm like, oh, I. I was that girl the whole time.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. You know what?

[Lacy Mosley]

You. It's. It's.

[Matt Rogers]

It's all goes back to, like, honestly how you feel about yourself and how the people around you make you feel.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's.

[Matt Rogers]

That.

[Lacy Mosley]

That.

[Matt Rogers]

And I feel like I'm so grateful to hear you say that. And I really think if that's it, I. All true. It's because I have, like, really good friends.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And really good, supportive people around me. And that's. I guess, you know, my thing to everyone is just clock how the people around you are making you feel. That is something that this year I've been learning.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, when I.

[Matt Rogers]

You can't have people in your life around you that make you feel anxious. Like, you want to shrink yourself.

[Lacy Mosley]

Anxious, heavy, stressed out.

[Matt Rogers]

It's not worth it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Every time I leave, like, hanging out with a friend now, I can always clock how I feel.

[Matt Rogers]

Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I always feel less. My friends always make me feel lighter. We hug at the end and we tell each other we love each other. And then I'm, like, floating throughout the day with the energy that I've received and also like being like, you and Bowen have a great relationship. Where on Las Culta Rises, you have each other and then you bring on guests and you can have segments. I've been doing this podcast for almost six years and it's just been me by myself. And so each guest, it is so important to try to make sure that their energy is gonna match mine or like they can contribute.

[Matt Rogers]

It's hard to do it alone.

[Lacy Mosley]

It is.

[Matt Rogers]

I, I, I honestly, like, I, I.

[Lacy Mosley]

It'S a bit more efficient though. Cause then I don't have to work with anybody else's schedule.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's the thing too is some cause like sometimes I'm like with Bowen and I, it's like when we book people, we both have to agree. And 98% of the time it's like, it's a hard agree. We're both enthusiastic and excited or we'll just be get on by ourselves and. But there is something about like this being like the person that's in front of you is someone that you have put there and. But I don't know, like, I kind of like sometimes having someone else to like check me or bounce ideas off of because I can be pretty self assured and confident about what I'm doing. So much so that I get like a little defensive when someone suggests something else. Right. So sometimes it's nice to have people that you really trust be like, this is maybe not the thing, you know, like, and Rowan's so smart.

[Lacy Mosley]

I have Justin Rich, my producer and my engineer.

[Matt Rogers]

And they're not just here to clean up spills. No, no, no.

[Lacy Mosley]

I look at them and I'm like, do we like this? Is this, Are we doing something?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And sometimes they're like, no, we did not like that. And I'm like, okay, okay.

[Matt Rogers]

No, but we were talking about that. Like we've been doing it for long enough now. Like, literally the last time I was on the show was virtual and it felt like we were just talking behind a mic. And now, now it's like if you're doing a podcast, it kind of has to be a whole thing. Like, look at this key art you have like, not this absolutely stunning photo of you. You know what I mean? And it's a whole thing. We're on camera. Podcast has become TV in a way. And they're canceling Colbert.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm like, bitch.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lacy Mosley]

Oprah, like, we gotta be Oprah now.

[Matt Rogers]

You never even tried. You were just trying to, you know, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, I'M Ricky Lake. That's for the girlies who are old enough to know who Ricky Lake is. I'm Ricky Lake.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? For those who do know, I'm Maury. You're good.

[Lacy Mosley]

You are not the scammer.

[Matt Rogers]

I honestly like some, like, you know what's funny is it's like, okay, and I'm going to be real. Especially when your podcast becomes big enough where it becomes, like, a worthy as a press stop for people.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, and I, I, I always ask.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I know you. We are.

[Matt Rogers]

I always ask, like, when I see a name in front of me that's completely out of the ordinary, I always ask, do they know what this is?

[Lacy Mosley]

Right? And do they have time? Because I've been on press junkets and they only got 26 minutes to do it. And I'm like, baby, it takes. I gotta read stuff to you and you gotta participate. And my favorite thing is that the people I learned how to, like, handpick and select the people that I've had on this show doing, like, during their press junkets, they always have been, like, afterwards, like, this was the most fun I've had on this press junket. And I was like, oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Cause they didn't know it was gonna be an actual conversation. They thought it was gonna be. So tell me about how you played Brenda, an abused woman.

[Lacy Mosley]

They gonna ask you the same six questions. And baby girl, every time I wanna press junket, it's always like, what does it feel like to be black and have a job?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, it' you black and you gay.

[Lacy Mosley]

A little bit, and you have a job. What does that feel like?

[Matt Rogers]

Represent everyone in a soundbite.

[Lacy Mosley]

At one point, I got to a point where I was like, okay, I've answered this question so many times, and I could tell the journalist, like, the journalist was being a little lazy. And I apologize to my PR people, but I was like, yo, like, are you really asking me what it's like to be black and have a job? Like, do you want me to tell you that I think about Harriet Tubman every time I sign a W2?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. What is what you want out of this? Or are you just being lazy? Yeah, please. I mean, and also, the thing is.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, every time I sign my W2s, Marsha P. Johnson appears, and she throws a brick in my house. Like. Cause I'm so gay and also so black. Like, what am I supposed to be saying to y'? All? Like, what do you want?

[Matt Rogers]

She's boring. I honestly think that's. But it's like when names come through. Like when Michelle Obama was first floated, I said, would they give us over an hour? Because that's lost, coach. You know that back. And this is. I'm just gonna. I'm not even gonna get specific. I'm just gonna say during elections now, sometimes political names get floated to come on the podcast. And I'm like, it still has to be Las culturistas, right? Because my number one thing, and I'm sure your number one thing is like, I want it to be because people are attracted to the authenticity of who you are and what you do. If you were to come on the mic and obviously be reading vetted questions to not this person. Cause they've never been pitched. But I'm just, I'm making a name. Jill Biden, right? They'd be like, what is this? Everyone listening would be like, what is this? So for me, it's like, I just have to make sure the person is gonna clown with us. Like, understand the assignments, which there's not that many come in with. Like, you know, don't be coming in saying, I don't want to do. I don't think it's funny. You have to do the show, by the way. It's beyond time.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. And you know, I know Anna.

[Matt Rogers]

Let's go. Of course she's a podcasting legend. Anna Hosny is my producer.

[Lacy Mosley]

Anna Hosny literally found me. That's the reason that I started podcasting. That's a tough. Jack o' Brien sent her out into the streets and she found me at UCB Names. She found me at UCB doing makeup ups in a kitchen area.

[Matt Rogers]

Of course she did.

[Lacy Mosley]

And she was like, come to Santa Monica and go down this dark alley.

[Matt Rogers]

She said, you need to get in.

[Lacy Mosley]

On this podcast audition for the Daily Zeitgeist. And Miles Gray was the perfect fit for that. I'm an actor, so I couldn't do a show every single day at 11am it wasn't gonna work. But I would come in, like, if they had a bab, if they need to go on vacation, I would be guest hosting. And like, I learned everything about podcasting from iHeart. And so last year when they gave me best host at the iHeartRadio, which.

[Matt Rogers]

By the way, I remember when I saw that, I was like, I think I even said on Instagram, I was like, this is a bomb ass choice. Like, you really are great.

[Lacy Mosley]

Thank you.

[Matt Rogers]

And that's the thing is like, I know. So another thing we share is like, primarily, I do want to act as well. Like, that is my number one. Like, that is why I started doing this. I all. You know what I mean? And I see that in you too. So that had to gag you to win best host in like podcasting. But just know, like, that was, that's just an extension of you being a talent, you know, like, and I feel like nowadays it is so360 where I think less about like, oh, if I do that, they're gonna consider me a host. Or if I do that, they're gonna consider me a.

[Lacy Mosley]

There's no box anymore.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, this is literally what I've been saying is, like, everything is collapsing because no one can tell you anymore. Like, this is the kind of person that's going to be good in this. That the other. Because let me tell you something. Kim Kardashian is about to be the biggest TV star in the world when this legal, when this Ryan Rebel show comes out.

[Lacy Mosley]

Legal show comes out.

[Matt Rogers]

And you know who else is on that?

[Lacy Mosley]

Sarah Paulson, Niecy Nash.

[Matt Rogers]

Niecy fucking. The list goes on, I believe Glenn Close. All these people who are acclaimed, professional, trained actors are gonna be who's number one on that call sheet. Kim K. So it does not matter. It does not matter. Get out there, get seen, get liked, get known.

[Lacy Mosley]

I saw that first with Peony Leaks, like when she was on Real Housewives of Atlanta. And then she had that short lived show that was basically like the bootleg Modern Family.

[Matt Rogers]

The other Ryan Murphy show.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, the other Ryan Murphy show. But she was on that and I was like, oh, she went from reality to scripted television, which is typically not something that happens in our industry. Like back in the. You wouldn't even do commercials anymore at a certain point. And now we got Sarah Jessica Parker selling in app gaming shit.

[Matt Rogers]

The talk show hosts are singers. Kelly Clarkson and Jennifer Hudson are the ones hosting. And by the way, the two best singers in the world are hosting daytime talk shows. And the other one is Drew Barrymore. So this is all, not nothing is necessarily what it was down.

[Lacy Mosley]

But she also just has such a strong spirit. She's. She's always been a star.

[Matt Rogers]

She's a star.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's so funny, so engaging. Literally, like I would watch her watch paint dry. Like, I am so engaged in her whole vibe.

[Matt Rogers]

It's wild, right? Like you, you every, like you watch that show and you're like, it's crazy that this person is, is, is a talk show host because they're, they're such an iconic actress. But here's the thing. It gets to a certain point where it's just like, she's on TV every day now. If she were just acting, how hard would it be? Maybe as an actress at all that's aging to get any parts at all. Especially when your thing was being a romantic come and then, like, romantic comedies kind of go out. They're not making them.

[Lacy Mosley]

She was like, gorgeous girl who, like, has glasses, and then you take the glasses off and you're like, oh, my God, she's so hot.

[Matt Rogers]

That was like.

[Lacy Mosley]

It was like, take the glasses off. Oh, so sexy.

[Matt Rogers]

I. When I did. I did that show once and I. I looked at her and I was like, you know, I actually got a. One of those moments, iconic moments, where she gets up out of the chair and, like, comes over and gives you a hug mid interview. Because I told her I was like, you really were my favorite growing up. Like the Cinderella that she did ever after. Yeah, period. Like that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Never been kissed.

[Matt Rogers]

Never been kissed. The Wedding Singer. The scene on the Wedding Singer when Adam Sandler comes on the plane at the end and sings that song to her. And like, they have that moment. Not everyone just has it like that where you can watch them on screen and they're receiving love and you're just so into it.

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Matt Rogers]

He's one of the icons. So at SNL 50, which, again, like, I was actually hosting on the red carpet for that, and I. I said to my agents, I was like, is this something I should be doing? Because it's like a very public red carpet thing, but I do want to be acting. And they were like, you know what?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yourself in a box.

[Matt Rogers]

They were like, it's snl. It's history. I am a SNL fan from the beginning, so I'm doing it. But literally, I saw Adam Sandler there, and he was one of the few people where I was like, I'm not going up to him. I was like, it's too much. He's too. I mean, for a little, like, any. Anyone our age. I'm 35. I don't know how old you are exactly, but, like, growing up, like, he was a comedy brand dude. Okay, him, Ben Stiller, Will Ferrell. What else? I mean, like, you know that, like.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was so gagged, like, working with also, like, he's such a sweet soul. Like, there were people, like, when we were taking press photos because I did this movie. Oh, God. What's the movie's name on Netflix?

[Matt Rogers]

That's how you know you've been booked a lot when you forgot the movie's name on Netflix. Because you go from job to job to job. Everybody well to booked. The IMDb credit list is too long.

[Lacy Mosley]

Literally. Jess is looking right now and, like.

[Matt Rogers]

See, they don't just clean up spills. They also clean up. There's a team.

[Lacy Mosley]

IMDb, y'. All. Netflix. Adam, the Outlaws. The Outlaws, of course. So I did the.

[Matt Rogers]

Of course. And you were great. Oh, the Outlaws.

[Lacy Mosley]

I did the Outlaws with, like, little Rel and Adam and, like, a bunch.

[Matt Rogers]

Of people I beat Lil Rel at Celebrity Jeopardy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, as you should.

[Matt Rogers]

And Paula Abdul. And when she spun the wheel, it almost took her with it. She was so small. I kicked their ass. Lil Rel could not figure out how to spin that wheel. I said, sir, not you.

[Lacy Mosley]

Beating them on logistics. I thought she was gonna tell me some questions you answered. You're like, no, they could not figure out the wheel. I greased it. They could not figure it out.

[Matt Rogers]

It was right.

[Lacy Mosley]

You're just, like, beating them all.

[Matt Rogers]

They couldn't. They couldn't get a good grip. They couldn't get a grip.

[Lacy Mosley]

I thought I was gonna say you knew all the answers to the one specific category.

[Matt Rogers]

No. I mean, for some reason that day, I was like, my brain was on. Because, you know, when you have a brain on days and brain off days.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. A brain on day is my.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, you feel like Scarlett Johansson in that movie Lucy, where you could use 99 of your brain.

[Lacy Mosley]

She be doing that neck acting.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't think. I don't. I don't see. There is a. I came in here, and there is. There was a white piece of paper with a list of people's names on it, and Scarlett Johansson was at the top. I was like, now what are you getting. Trying to get me to say about these people? I'm learning.

[Lacy Mosley]

And speaking of which, wait, you did say you had a scam story you wanted to tell. I'm gonna let you get that off your chest. Oh, my God. We are 20 minutes in. I am so sorry, congregation, because I know y' all get mad and clapping y' all fans.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, please. I think they're having fun.

[Lacy Mosley]

Pick the opera and plate up and count the money. O. Okay. Get the white gloves on, and y' all keep the church service going. So now we're getting into the first segment of this podcast.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, please. This is my whole bag.

[Lacy Mosley]

20 minutes in.

[Matt Rogers]

This is my last coach is an hour and 40 minutes. I kid you not. If you're interested in too much stuff, please check out our podcast.

[Lacy Mosley]

Listen. Cause y' all are both the two. This is the last thing I'm gonna say on y'.

[Matt Rogers]

All.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, y' all have the personality. No, it's not. But it's.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't sign that in pen.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm lying. I'm lying. But, like, y' all have the personalities of the gays that I grew up with that are like, these gays watch too much YouTube and they have deep lore knowledges of every single thing on the earth. I heard you on Lost Culture Resource describing, like, Disney lore, like, real, real deep, deep.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, no, it's deep, dark, villainous sorcery in here.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I know, like, if you don't know, like most of the fairy tales that you see and you read to your children today, which have your children stream the show in another room. Okay, we getting them numbers up here?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, just put it on.

[Lacy Mosley]

But, but, like, they all were actually scary stories where, like, people died or were like, oh, they neutered them.

[Matt Rogers]

And I did, I went off because I said, we need way more violent deaths for villains in Disney films. Because now it's all like, the villain is themselves. The villain was their insecurity. The villain was the fact that they couldn't be truthful. It's like, please just give me a fucking, like, humpback witch with a pointy head talking like this with a crazy fucking song that's just funny. Stupid and queer coded. Die stupid. I basically, if you don't die stupid after you've done like, like really malicious, violent things to me, it's not good enough. And people will be hitting me up like, why is this old gay, like, watching these Disney movies? What do you care anyway? They're for kids. I'm. I'm like, can I tell you something? I barely cared to begin with.

[Lacy Mosley]

And also, like, kids are. Kids are humans, okay? And listen, teach them. I hate that we're in LA and there are advertisements on bus benches and billboards that say, take time to be a dad. I don't want to excuse dads abandoning their families.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Lacy Mosley]

But, you know, I see things from every different angle.

[Matt Rogers]

You gotta walk everything through on this show.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. And sometimes, like, there was a tweet that was like, you know, like, the dad left, but maybe the baby had bad vibes. And I was like, sometimes I really feel as though the baby might have bad vibes or the toddler might have bad vibes. I've met some children that I don't fuck with.

[Matt Rogers]

I know they gonna grown evil.

[Lacy Mosley]

They gonna grow into adults that I don't fuck with either. And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. The baby has bad vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

The baby had bad vibes. And I had to walk away for self care.

[Lacy Mosley]

But I feel like if more Disney movies had endings where the villain got they ass beat, no, then people would.

[Matt Rogers]

Not act as wrong as they did.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. You know, sometimes you need to get your ass whooped.

[Matt Rogers]

Or at least that's what's wrong. See someone get their ass whooped. You know what I Actually was just. Just got back from France, and the last time I had been there, they had been so nasty and mean, and so I was anticipating a little bit worse. I think they're being nicer now because they know that Americans are going through it. Like, we're going through it. And so we get there because we can't be in America anymore one second longer, and all we want is a safe haven. So even the French, who are the biggest bitches, are like, like, okay, I'm sorry.

[Lacy Mosley]

They're being nicer now. That's good to know. You know, I'm going back to Ireland. I was, like, thinking about stopping in France, but I was like, I hate France. It's so ghetto.

[Matt Rogers]

I just went to go see Cowboy Carter, and it was a good experience.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was in Cannes, so you were there when Miley was there.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so I got Jay Z. I got Jay Z. I didn't get back, but still, like, it was still a moment.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now I'm learning, like, wherever Beyonce starts the tour, that's the warmup. So if she starts in the States, I'm gonna go to Europe. Me and my sister were like, okay, we'll go to Europe, but if she starts, like, in Europe, then she warming up and we gonna go in the States.

[Matt Rogers]

So now we, like, stadiums are easier to get into, too. Like, if, like, because I live in New York half the time. And getting to MetLife Stadium.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Rogers]

Rather die. I say with a smile, babes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Two trains and two cars.

[Matt Rogers]

A boat ferry.

[Lacy Mosley]

A private, like, and walking at least a mile and a half to get the fuck out, like, of MetLife for Beyonce. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

I took my sister to the Eras tour in Miami.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, babes.

[Matt Rogers]

It was the Oregon Trail. It was. There was nothing more difficult I've ever done in my life. The hardest thing I've ever done in my life was walk to and from the Hard Rock Stadium ERAS tour. And it rained. Oh, my God, it rained. And we get there, and Taylor gets on stage, and she goes, it's officially a rain show. I'm sitting there being like, I want to be excited for the Taylor Rain show, but I have to say, the Hard Rock Miami me, it's not nominated at the Culture Awards.

[Lacy Mosley]

Let's just say that Swifty's on the prairie. That's crazy. And I love her stans. I'm so sorry, but her stans, as I'm one of them, they're geniuses, and they literally could hack the mainframe. We talked about it on this show before. Like, don't Get Taylor Swift fans activated. Them bitches are smart as hell. Like, they are quick. They'll find out where your grandma stay in five seconds. Like, they are the most brilliant Stans. I love them so much. And don't attack me, y'. All. I see. I said I love Tay Tay. Don't come after me, okay? Cause I'm scared of y'. All.

[Matt Rogers]

My friend is here.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then the Barb. The Barbs really be trying to murder.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, no, no, no. I don't mess with them anymore.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't speak on that lady because I do not want her people coming after me either way with her try to kill you.

[Matt Rogers]

Cause if you say something positive, people are like, why the fuck are you talking about her? And then if you say something negative, it's don't you fucking talk about. So I just stay out of it. Which hurts because back in the day, Nicki was one of the only ones for me.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's honestly.

[Matt Rogers]

But I can't be involved in it anymore.

[Lacy Mosley]

So bad the Sza stuff like, oh, why is she doing that? And like. But she's been doing crazy shit like that. And like, Barbs don't come after me. I'm not saying nothing. I will say this, though. Cause it's a fact. You know, she married a menace to society. And yeah, he got them charges. Like, he got. He is convicted and he gotta go door to door and tell everybody that he a predator. Like, he had that on his plate.

[Matt Rogers]

It's just a fact.

[Lacy Mosley]

But also, he's also just a menace to society. I was driving up fucking Laurel Canyon and a green Rolls Royce almost ran me off the fucking road. Cause you know, it's only like two lanes.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's very tight going up those hills. And so you drive slower because you're trying to be care whipped around the motherfucking corner, coming down as fast as hell. Almost ran me off the road. And then I was looking, I was like, is that Kenneth Petty?

[Matt Rogers]

You're kidding.

[Lacy Mosley]

Nicki Minaj husband almost killed me. Like, literally. He's a menace. We need to get rid of him.

[Matt Rogers]

Can I say the headline? The headline that. That would have been Kenneth Petty. And you, like, in Laurel Canyon collision that Pop Crave is quaking. Pop Crave is op base, all of it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Nerd.

[Matt Rogers]

The way they're like, wow, that was a couple thousand likes on Twitter.

[Lacy Mosley]

They tried to kill your favorite bitch. Okay? Dead shout out to Miley. They tried to kill your favorite bitch. Okay?

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Lacy Mosley]

So that's why I have personal disagreements as well.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, well, he almost ran you off. Laurel. Kenya. That's not even. That's not even like you almost hit me.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's.

[Matt Rogers]

You almost drove me off a cliff. Of course that's how I almost went boosh, boosh to my death. That's how I almost hit many homes on the way down. I.

[Lacy Mosley]

He was trying to introduce me to Jesus, and I was like, I'm not ready for this meet and greet.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, he might not have been there to introduce you. I have to say, you might be.

[Lacy Mosley]

Headed different directions on the elevator. Oh, you going down. Okay, we go right up first. And then.

[Matt Rogers]

Remember when we were like, we're not gonna sp on this. Whatever. What are we saying? Betroths?

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Matt Rogers]

This was my scam. Ready?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

So I had gone through. I'm not getting into it. This was. I was also scammed romantically, but not going to say that because don't want to deal with the mess. So I had gone through a heartbreak that was terrible. My friend, in order to cheer me up, takes me to a psychic in Williamsburg. Okay, what is your read on whether these people are legit psychics in general? Do you believe people have the gift or the ability?

[Lacy Mosley]

I think some people do. They are touched by some universal things, and I don't think necessarily it's that they can predict the future, but there are just people who are very strong at reading other people sensory. So sensory is their strength, and they can pull things out of you. Now, you know, you got your psychics that are like, kalma now, and they're not really the girls.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, they be like, let me write a message on a piece of paper, put this candle over it, light it, and then say this phrase six times.

[Lacy Mosley]

I could see that one of your grandparents is dead. Yeah, bitch, I'm in my 30s. That's a pretty safe bet that one of them's dead.

[Matt Rogers]

They're actually gone.

[Lacy Mosley]

And if I didn't come in with the confidence of four living grandparents, you know, somebody did, right? Like, they could clock in.

[Matt Rogers]

But I have not been clocked by Lady Time.

[Lacy Mosley]

But sometimes, like, the sensory, and sometimes I just trust that the universe is speaking to me. So if I hear something, I can filter it to where I take what I want and I leave. What I don't.

[Matt Rogers]

This person, my friend, takes me to a psychic who, by the way, not an appointment, just Googled psychics. This person had put. I'm putting in air quotes, good reviews. So we walk in. It's me.

[Lacy Mosley]

What a good review for a psychic.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know. Five stars. She ate that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, she said I was gonna get hit by a car, and I definitely dodged.

[Matt Rogers]

And as I walked into the middle of the street afterwards, I did. So basically, like, I go in there. It's me, Bowen, and our friend Patrick. This woman looks at me. She goes, who wants to go first? But she points to me, and I'm like, okay, I guess I will. So I sit down. So I sit down and. And she goes, do you want them in the room? I go, yeah, they can be in the room. So they're sitting on the other side of the room. And she sits down, and she goes, you're not. With the love of your Life. Why? It just. It just ended. And I go and I look to them, and they're like, they're my friend's jaws job. And she goes, they have to leave. And I was like, by the way, it's February in New York. It's freezing outside. So I guess I was like, are you guys okay? And they were like, you know, I had gone through this really heartbreaking thing that came out of nowhere. So they were like, yeah, we'll let you have this moment. I guess, like, maybe something's working. So they leave, and she's like, saying all of this stuff that is dead on now. I don't really know, like, what the specific were of what she was saying at the time, but enough for me to be, like, keyed in. She goes, you need to come back tomorrow. She was saying, like, right names, right dates, right things like that. Feelings really getting me. She goes, I need you to pay this much. She had, like, a board of prices, like, for, like, cleansing. It's this. For, like, you know, this aura reading. It's this whatever, like, all this, like, shit. And so the highest price she had was, like, $800. She. She goes, we're here, and I need you to come back tomorrow. I was so heartbroken. I gave her that money. I made an appointment for the next day. I leave. My friends are like, what happened? I'm like, no, no, it was good. Let's just do something else. I didn't tell them. The next day I go back. She looks at me when I show up, she shakes her head. She goes, it's really bad. I was praying all night. I need you to sit down. So we go to this back room. Mind you, it's kind of like a little bit of a shack. Like, her kids are, like, running around scurrying. Like, there was an errant cat. It was very. That she was wearing, like, a shirt.

[Lacy Mosley]

That indoor cat, you know, that's when things are sketchy.

[Matt Rogers]

She was giving the.

[Lacy Mosley]

Why your cat not inside?

[Matt Rogers]

She was giving the vibe of it's always too hot in the summer or too cold in the winter. Like, this place was on sticks. But that also gave her an authenticity.

[Lacy Mosley]

To me because it was, like, witchy a little bit, because she in touch with the natures and whatnot.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, she kept reminding me, she goes, by the way, I don't do dark magic. I don't get involved. That's what she said. I don't get involved. It's not that she didn't have the ability.

[Lacy Mosley]

So, like, clearly you know how to do it. You was like, I just don't dip a toe. But I do know.

[Matt Rogers]

But by the way, this, I could.

[Lacy Mosley]

Curse everybody you hate, but like, we don't gotta get into that. Cause I don't really do that. I'm classy.

[Matt Rogers]

She goes, she's saying this. And by the way, I'm like a, like a theme park gay. I love an immersive experience. So I'm like, I'm like, let's go. So she goes to me, my boyfriend at the time had ex. My ex had broken up with me probably about two and a half weeks prior and we had not really spoken in like. And she goes, has he called you? And I said, no, he has not called me. And she goes, he will. And I kid you not, 45 seconds later, my phone was on the table, it rang, it was him. So I look at the phone and I look at her and I go, my eyes just open. And she goes, pick it up. And she goes, but I'm telling you right now, it's the worst day of his life.

[Lacy Mosley]

Life.

[Matt Rogers]

She goes, he's not okay. Pick it up. Not okay. And so we have this, this like, this like, situation.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't know if this is a scam.

[Matt Rogers]

So this is what I'm telling you, but when I tell you, I'm locked in. So I had, and I'm just going to say it like I had just gotten a big like brand deal. Like a big one. One where the one that paid like too much money to go to World Pride and work for amex. And like, it was just when I was getting to the point in my career where the stupid money starts to come in sometimes. And sometimes you do get these opportunities where it's just like, and it's fast and it's appealing.

[Lacy Mosley]

You want some Instagram stories? You gonna give me all this money?

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm not supposed to know.

[Matt Rogers]

So I had, I had, I had gotten done. This weird thing had happened where this horrible thing had happened in my life, but suddenly the money was changing. So I have this like moment where I come into this income. I don't know how she worked this, but she said to me, and I'm embarrassed to say this, but I think it's, I think I should because this is real and I need people to know this is how deep you can get.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

It was a five figure number that she asked for cuz she told me, she's like, you guys are supposed to be together. I need to do work on the both of you. It's going to take me hours because this number had come in from Amex and World Pride, and that was, like, a fraction of that. I was so heartbroken and so vulnerable and so devastated.

[Lacy Mosley]

She was praying on your knees that.

[Matt Rogers]

She literally was like, if you don't get. And she had just said the thing about the dark magic. And I'm telling you, the thing with the phone had happened. Yes, but the thing is, when you are in a certain emotional position, this is what abusers do. You know what I mean? Like, this is what people that, like, that's why it was scary. So I have given her this sick deposit so that she can, you know, do xyz, cleansing, whatever, on my spirit and my ex's spirit and also other people's spirits. I leave the. That psychic, and I feel crazy. And I actually called my friends that I went with the first day, and I was like, is there any way. It's like, a conspiracy? Are you guys. Are people fucking with me? Like, what's going on? Like, my sense of reality had been shattered. And I called Bowen, actually, and Bowen was like, I don't want you talking to this woman anymore. I don't like it. I was like, this really makes me nervous. You're not well, emotionally, like, I feel like this is not okay. And I went to my therapist, and I was like, are these people real? Like I asked you earlier. And she goes, I do believe that people have a gift like, that they. But. But here's the thing, Matt. She was like. She may be able to sense what is gonna happen, like, sense what has happened, but she cannot make things happen. So when she starts telling you that she's gonna do cleansing on you or she's gonna do spirit work on you, et cetera. That's her manipulating you. Even if she has a talent, she can still use that to manipulate. Manipulate you. So I cut the relationship off immediately because it was also clear that her end goal of, like, if she did this work on us, we would get back together or whatever was like, A, not happening, and B, not what I needed at all.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

So I, like, that relationship needed to end and be disconnected. So for. For me at the time, it took a second, but I was just like, I had to end that relationship. And I'll never forget what she said to me last.

[Lacy Mosley]

What'd she say?

[Matt Rogers]

She goes, it's actually good that we stop, because I actually had another vision last night, and I don't think he was your soulmate. I think it's someone else. And I was like, so You've been telling me this whole time that he was definitely my soulmate and I had to give you this money, etc.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I got you back on the hook. She was like, okay, you don't agree with this? Actually, I had a dream glass. Ooh, ooh, ooh.

[Matt Rogers]

I had a little.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ooh, hold on. I'm having a vision. Shannon Raven somone moment where she just, like, looked off into the distance and.

[Matt Rogers]

Was like, so then, then she goes, and also, I can't see you for the next week and a half anyway. I'm taking my children to Disney World. And that's when I realized I had paid for the trip.

[Lacy Mosley]

You definitely did.

[Matt Rogers]

I said, at least the kids who were scurrying around for the crumbs amongst the cat get to go, right? They get to Disney World. I hope they bought the Fast Pass. Certainly they had enough money. Like, I hope that she knew how to work the app, you know what I'm saying? Like, because I was like, at least that. But now that's. It's been like.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like she probably manifested her way through the lines with her kids. She was like a vision. Told me that I was supposed to be in front. Can I get in front of you with my family? And then they just let it happen. Like, it's been like, manifested it two.

[Matt Rogers]

And a half years since then. And part of me, like, a little part of me wants to walk back in there and one, see if she remembers me or to see if when I sit down like she had, she does, like, some other bullshit so that I can, like, look her in the eyes and be like, I'm sure I can't get my money back from you. But like that. I want you to know that I know, I know you're bullshit. You're a scam artist. Because that was garbage. And let me tell you something. She just knew. I don't know if it was. I don't know how she knew.

[Lacy Mosley]

She clogged. Like, listen, she was adding up everything you had on.

[Matt Rogers]

Maybe I was dressing as like, new money as fuck.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, you don't have no pores. Like, you got a face routine. We know you got some money for some products, okay? We know you using some retinols.

[Matt Rogers]

She was like, he just walked down here with Bowen Yang from Saturday Night Live. Maybe he's also got some coin. And the fact was I had new coin because, like, it was the kind of thing where it was like, oh, yeah, you just suddenly have this amount of money so you feel you can Throw it around. And I feel. I think it's one of the top three dumbest decisions I've ever made in my life. But I don't rake myself over the coast for it that much because. And again, I said to my therapist, I was like, I want to admit to you how much it was I said this. And she goes, matt, I have to tell you, I have had people completely ruin their lives. To psychics. Give them over a hundred thousand dollars, 50, 60, 70K. Because. Because these people are convinced that their problems are gonna be solved by these people. And when all you really want is to have your problem solved and your heart to be not broken.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. We all have problems.

[Matt Rogers]

Why wouldn't you try something if you.

[Lacy Mosley]

Could, if you thought that it was gonna improve your life? And I have a frog in my throat. Cause I'm gonna say something that I've never said on this podcast, but I also got scammed buying Beyonce Renaissance tickets.

[Matt Rogers]

Stop.

[Lacy Mosley]

The first time we bought them at midlife. And, like, my friend had the passcode and stuff, and we thought that they were purchased. And then we got, like, we had our hair, our makeup done, everything. Like, all four of us show up to MetLife, and she's like, pull up the tickets on Ticketmaster. And I was like, they're on your Ticketmaster. And she was like, no, they're on yours. And we realized that the tickets never went through, so we ended up having to buy tickets at the theater, like, right when the concert was happening. And we ended up getting a great deal and better seats. So it was like, okay, cool, cool. It worked out. And then I wanted to go in la, so I was on a flight on the plane. It was the night of the concert, so my friends already had, like, a party bus and everything. They already had their tickets. And I was on this flight, and I was like, I'll buy two tickets. And I wanted to do Club Renaissance because it's time. It's me by myself. I'm standing. Like, I want to be right next to the stage. And I thought that. And this is a ridiculous price for two Beyonce tickets. But resellers, y'. All. And I was like, well, fuck it. Like, I really want to go. Like, this is something I want to do. Like, I work real. I work really hard. Like, fuck it, I'm gonna do it.

[Matt Rogers]

It was something you were doing for you.

[Lacy Mosley]

So I purchased it like a Ticketmaster. They wouldn't let me purchase it. That's why I'm literally like, I will be at the court hearing for the Senate hearing for Ticketmaster. Because y' all are fucking scamming as fuck. Like, you're shady as fuck. It's tough. Ticketmaster wouldn't let me buy the tickets. The same row, same seat, everything. Or, like, the same, like, you know, Club Renaissance, like, area. And so then I went on something called, like, tickets.com or something. But I researched it first on the plane, and it was legitimate. And then I clicked for the two tickets, and it was more than on Ticketmaster. I think it was probably like 8,000 on. On this website. And they wouldn't sell it to me on Ticketmaster. I kept trying to buy it. And so then on this website, it was more, but it was the same seats. So I was like, okay, yeah. So then I purchase it, Mind you, I'm in the air. I am on WI Fi, right?

[Matt Rogers]

Oof.

[Lacy Mosley]

The price that website was showing me was for one ticket.

[Matt Rogers]

Babe, that is heartbreaking.

[Lacy Mosley]

I could not get out of it. I reached out to the company. I'm in the air, so I can't make phone calls. I reached out to the company, I sent a bunch of emails, and I was like, I don't even have the tickets yet. What's going on? Just refund my money. Quit, quit, quit. Abort, abort, abort. No, they would not. Like, they got me. They got me. They grifted me, and they knew they had me, and they were not gonna let go. And so I did go to the concert. I had a great time, but it was like, I don't know what the fuck else I'm supposed to do. Like, it was devastating. It's probably the biggest scam shame I have in my life. And I've never said it publicly until this episode, but, yeah, that is.

[Matt Rogers]

Here's the thing is, it's like, it's. That is.

[Lacy Mosley]

And the tickets came through. Tick Ticketmaster.

[Matt Rogers]

I know.

[Lacy Mosley]

So when I was looking for the tickets from tickets sale or whatever the fuck, they weren't coming through. And then there was a Ticketmaster email, and I was, like, really trying to cancel it because I was like, oh, maybe I can actually get the tickets through Ticketmaster. Like I planned. It was a Ticketmaster sending me the tickets from the bootleg website, and they wouldn't let me buy those same exact tickets for a cheaper price on their website. But then they got some bootleg website that ran it up on me. And also, I've never been on a ticket website where if you say you're having two people, two guests, and you're picking two seats, they show you the price for one. One.

[Matt Rogers]

See, it's, you know, what it's designed to be. Once you put money, it's. It's designed to be difficult to understand because they. They are not in the business of you saving money. They're in the business of making money.

[Lacy Mosley]

But that's egregious.

[Matt Rogers]

100%. Oh, the whole thing is egregious. We need a true referendum on the tickets of it all. The ticketing websites, when I see. Because I go on tour every Christmas and you know, the venues, it's. That's another thing is people don't know is certain venues you can't just sell your own tickets to. Like, you have to go through these things. Like, certain venues are, you know, certain companies book those venues. Like, that's just the way it is. And the way it is, it's like they can, like, charge for, like, a premium seat, which is basically based on the resale value.

[Lacy Mosley]

Value.

[Matt Rogers]

So they look on the stub hubs of it all and the, you know, whatevers, and they say, what are these tickets going for in resale? Okay, so the premium seat will be that price. And suddenly you're gonna see Matt Rogers. Have you heard of Christmas for. What's $900 in the third row? I don't think so. And I don't like to say this outside of my own podcast, but, honey, like, I. I feel. Feel like it is. I know what I give on stage. And it's not that I'll call my agent and be like, I don't feel right about that price. And it's just like, well, someone will pay for it.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I'm like, yeah, but I feel right about that price. Cause I know what you are and what you give up. No, but, like, this is also not.

[Matt Rogers]

A Celine Dion in Vegas price.

[Lacy Mosley]

They're cannibalizing, too. Cause it's like you set the price at a normal, affordable rate for the crowd. That's. And then these people are using credit cards to buy. Buy up all of these seats and then resell them at exorbitant prices. They got lucky with me. Like, that's crazy. I. I told my publicist this, and I was like. She was like, don't ever tell anybody this. So I don't. I don't know. Maybe it'll air, maybe it won't. I'll. I'll think about it. But, like, the resellers, the way that we can scam them back is, listen, if you don't care about the beginning of a concert happening, you could be Outside of the stadium with your. With your drip on. Wait till you start hearing people say them tickets gonna drop, like, every single day.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, I saw Madonna for 66 bucks.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. They're gonna have to offload it. So you gotta. We gotta start fucking them over. Like, we can't let them keep reselling like this and making. Absorbing it money off of something that is, like, you're a middleman. Like, I think middleman, they're the biggest scammers in the world.

[Matt Rogers]

Absolutely.

[Lacy Mosley]

And who said we needed you? Middleman.

[Matt Rogers]

The thing is, like, you just wait till the day of. Because I'm telling you not.

[Lacy Mosley]

But not even day of, like, listen, that's. I still got scammed hours before. No, not even hours. Hours before. It's got to be when the come out on stage and you see some smoke coming down. They, like. And you start hearing somebody hollering. That's when you buy the ticket.

[Matt Rogers]

And then.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then you go inside, you don't heard them hollering. You okay, you missed what, the first two songs. You'll be all right. You know the songs. But, like, anytime.

[Matt Rogers]

It's funny when you're out there and you're like, I saw my sister and I again, because it took a. Because we had. It was a long, hard journey into the night to get into Hard Rock Stadium and Miami. We rolled up, and Gracie Abrams was, like, towards the tail end of her set, which I was upset about because I wanted to see her. And so we were going in, and she's like. She's like, you know, probably three songs out, and girls were on the outside, like, sitting on the sidewalk and then looking at their phones and screaming in joy because, like, something had become available. And then they ran into the ERAS tour. But what I'm saying is, like, you can wait and then watch when there's, like, a $14 ticket for all this stuff. Like, don't get so crazed that you make the mistake that, like, you made or, like, you know, that, like, people make all the time where it's just, like, you feel like you need to pay these egregious prices. And the fact that it's even a kind of, like, atmosphere where it's even close to that price is a problem.

[Lacy Mosley]

It is a huge problem. It is a massive, like, I literally want to be at the Senate hearing because Ticketmaster is absolutely scamming. They're using these other websites. Like, I could have bought that ticket more affordably on Ticketmaster, but they wouldn't allow me to, like, buy the tickets. And then when I went to a second party site. I was allowed to buy the tickets for a much higher price and they still came from Ticketmaster. So it's like, I know you're doing backdoor willing and dealing and this shit is egregious and you're scamming and like, that isn't how these things should be. Like, people should be able to enjoy a concert, enjoy an artist on tour, and not have to pay egregious prices because you want to be a weird ass middleman with a credit card. So I'm all about like, look, if you can't afford the ticket after they come out and you don't get the pre sale, baby, just wait until you hear some drums. Wait until you see some lights and some smoke. And then all them people gonna have to lower their prices so they can at least get some of the money back from the egregious purchases they're making on credit. So let's move into historic hoodwinks. Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

We're so deep in deep.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my goodness.

[Matt Rogers]

But we knew.

[Lacy Mosley]

Sorry. This is what happens when the vibes come. We're gonna ride the waves. We're gonna ride the vibes. So historic hoodwinks. This is where I will regale Matt with a famous con group of criminals. I don't know. We'll get his opinions all throughout. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We don't know yet. And as the host and award giver of Las Culturistas, we know he's a very experienced judge, honey, so hopefully he can help us. And also, y', all, like, when this episode is posted, y' all get on the Instagram and tell us how you feel, because I don't know how I'm gonna feel about this. So everybody weigh in and we'll all just try to judge together. So we've talked about fandoms that we're terrified. Here's another one. Mr. Beast. Very scared of your fans, Mr. Beast. But we gotta bring you up because some things have been happening. So Mr. Beast is like, he does charity, but he's also kind of like a jigsaw from Saw kind of character. He's like, I'll lock you in a grocery store and then stay there for.

[Matt Rogers]

A year in a situation, and suddenly there'll be a message like, what is it? Do people elect into this? Like, what is the vibe?

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, he does like casting calls for those types of things. He just had the Mr. Beast games that I think was on Amazon and it performed really well. I know some people who were involved in it. And honey, food, water, sleep, and what time of day it is and what the calendar is giving. They weren't getting that. It's a little messy. It was a lot of people. So I'm sure like to expand that quickly. There's always going to be some snafu. So I'm not going to hold him to task for all of that. But it was a little. Hm. So the Mr. Beast experience left fans who paid $1,000 for tickets waiting in their Vegas hotel rooms for days only to receive random unsold merch from his online store. And no other events or activities having to do with Mr. Beast. It's. It's the latest in the shady business deals associated with this vast YouTube empire that he has. And like, okay, we have a MrBeast experience. I gave you a thousand dollars and you not here. They don't got no cardboard cutouts. They don't got no experiences like, what? What. What's going on?

[Matt Rogers]

I guess it's like whenever you're selling anything, it just has to be. And it's. I guess my thing is it's like they gave the money. What were they buying? Like, if that was like you're buying a Mr. Beast experience, then he can define that as being whatever it is.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like it was like name licensing, where it's like something comes across your desk and they're like, we want to slap your name on this. And you just say, okay, but you don't actually look into what is going to give. And like, if you care about your fans and your brand, then like, we would obviously always look into anything that is going to be associated with us, because it's like, it's not going to walk if it's not what I want. Like, even you looking into the ticket prices of your place, even though they're being resold, this is not what I intended for my fans. Like, we need to curtail this. It's like, we are careful about that. But I think sometimes when you get to a certain place, like, Mr. Beast is where I think things are just flying across his desk. I'm gonna give him grace on this one. And maybe he just was like, slap my name on it. Okay. But he wasn't given the experience. So YouTube turned 20 years old this year and is now the biggest streaming platform in the world, with more viewership than Netflix or anywhere else you can watch video content. Isn't that wild?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. Is that him?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

That's Mr. Beast.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, wow. A guy like Mr.

[Lacy Mosley]

Beast is like, you Might have seen somebody, like, sexy walking down the street. And then you try to draw them from memory, and then you think he's hot? No, I think he's like. It's like you try to draw a hot person, but you get kind of a little off a little bit.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a drawing of a hot person, not a hot person.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, it's like, the thought. It's like, I saw this man walking down the street. Oh, okay. They don't quite look like him, but it's close.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? Right time of day, right time of lighting, right type of alcohol in me. Ooh, we can go with Mr. Beast.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know, gin. Make it sin.

[Matt Rogers]

So, like, my mom used to say that to me.

[Lacy Mosley]

A little gin and maybe, like, a little moody, like, warm lighting. Maybe he could. Especially with that beard. I love a redhead, so a little red beard might get.

[Matt Rogers]

I do, too. Do we have the same type?

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. Do it. This is from memory. We're drawing it. But, like, in real life, he would be sassier, but, like, you know, I see.

[Matt Rogers]

I like his hair texture.

[Lacy Mosley]

I do. He got some good product in there. And it seems like he's getting good haircut.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, he's. This is a carpet. I'm gonna guess this is, judging by the background, like the, you know, Frozen 2 right off Broadway.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, he be at the kids. Shit. I saw him get sprayed at the Kids Choice Awards. I was there. Oh, shitty. Yeah, I definitely was like, can y' all put me to sleep where I'm away from the slime? Cause, like, I'm not getting slimed, bitch. Like, this hair. Please be serious. Like. And I took me and Jaden, my little black girl on that show, and I was like, oh, we getting up. Cause the slime got too close. And we were like, you ain't gotta worry about me. You ain't gotta worry about me.

[Matt Rogers]

Holy shit. You know that one meme of Katy Perry getting slimed?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Okay. Cause the slime is aggressive. Like, I had friends who were on the show getting. And they were gonna get slimed for their different shows, and they, like, leaned over, like, in between commercial breaks and were like, oh, Lacey, what's up? When we were talking, and I was like, are you about to get slimed? And they were like, yeah. They told us to plant our feet and bend our knees a little bit. Don't loc. And then just, like, brace for the.

[Matt Rogers]

Impact because it's a blast.

[Lacy Mosley]

How aggressive is this? Oh, it's aggressive as fuck. My favorite moment was when they slimed so like you. Some celebrities know they're gonna get slimed and they bring em out in like all white designer stuff. But you know it's gonna get slimed to make the moment even poppier. Cause you're an all white. And so Charlie Puth came out in all white with Gabrielle Union.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Lacy Mosley]

And so Gabrielle was like, oh, the winners are. And she was like, oh, Charlie, the envelope's over there. Like, go over there. And so he goes. And then they shoot the slime at Charlie is so aggressive that he falls to the ground. Charlie Puth is on the ground. Like, can't get up. Like in a pool of slime and can't get up. And then like the PAs come out for the commercial break and there's like four PAs and like two of them just walk up to Gabrielle Union and they take both of her hands on each side and escort her off the stage. She was not slime. And like, they were just like, our queen. We'll let you go. And they just left Charli in the stage.

[Matt Rogers]

They can't be doing Gabrielle Union. Like, no, they're not going to slime Gabrielle Union on stage at the Kids Choice Award.

[Lacy Mosley]

Can you help Charlie? He's in a pool of slime. And they were like, he good, Gabby, let's help you with your steps. She had no slime, by the way.

[Matt Rogers]

The mad libs of this. The mad libs of Charlie Puth and Gabrielle Union at the Kids Choice Awards getting slime. Like, please, please stop, I beg you.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was like, you know, this is reparations. Treat a black queen well. We love that. We love, love that. So, you know, YouTube's been around. It's 20 years old. So James Jimmy Donaldson, aka Mr. Beast, has the most subscribers of anyone on YouTube.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow. How many?

[Lacy Mosley]

With 386 million subscribers on his main channel Wild and how.

[Matt Rogers]

And I didn't know about the person.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, because he's. I mean, he. He a little bit. For the cheering.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Okay. Okay. So.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, now he's at 414 million subscrib.

[Matt Rogers]

414 million.

[Lacy Mosley]

414 million subscribers. So it's gone up.

[Matt Rogers]

And so basically his thing is like chaotic little experiences. You can like immerse yourself. Like you're looking at these view counts are crazy.

[Lacy Mosley]

People are clocked the into Mr. Beast.

[Matt Rogers]

That one thing has 804. Does that say 845 million views? Is that what that says?

[Lacy Mosley]

O.

[Matt Rogers]

This is nuts. Yeah. 8. It says 456,000. Squid doll. Squid game. In real Life. Okay, so honestly, I do get it. Cuz it is compelling. Because it is essentially it's like reality TV that he's setting. And if he's got a following, whatever. Honestly, I, I respect the game of anyone that has that many subscribers gagged.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, I'm like, okay, you were.

[Matt Rogers]

But I'm also even more gagged that I didn't know who he was at all. That just, that's just like culture now.

[Lacy Mosley]

And he's YouTube billionaire. He's earning $54 million a year largely from ads and sponsored content.

[Matt Rogers]

See, I also, by the way, he looks better in his YouTube.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, now you don't see his followers. And now he's starting to look more sexy. Your eyeballs. Matt, please be serious.

[Matt Rogers]

He does look better in those. No, I know you in Bowen.

[Lacy Mosley]

Listen, I see las culture risas. They be having Ariana Grande and all the celebrities on they show. You saw, you saw the follower count. You were like, wait, why don't I know him?

[Matt Rogers]

Excus.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now he's attractive.

[Matt Rogers]

No, can I say having. Having this many followers would terrify me. Like, being that level of known is not something I think would be enjoyable at all.

[Lacy Mosley]

He started out as a 14 year old in North Carolina.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, so he's been in the game.

[Lacy Mosley]

And he was posting gaming videos, estimating how much money other YouTube gamers were making at two minutes and doing like Shia LaBeouf memes. So that's how he started. He was on YouTube at 14. So like he was young.

[Matt Rogers]

And which was which? How old is he now?

[Lacy Mosley]

He's 27. So yeah, it's given 42, but. Okay, you 27. We'll. We'll let you have it. So. So when Crohn's disease, which is a bowel inflammation that causes chronic diarrhea, derailed his plans of becoming a big time baseball player, he turned into an indoor kid. He became obsessed with cracking the YouTube.

[Matt Rogers]

Recommendation algorithm when Crohn's disease derailed his dreams of being a big bas. League baseball player. Can we just. The Mad Libs.

[Lacy Mosley]

He put down the Big League Chew and he picked up the big league YouTube. Yes, and did it. And did it.

[Matt Rogers]

Not the Big League Jew. I'm gonna leave. I'm outta here. Not the Big League Chew.

[Lacy Mosley]

He had to put it down. And he was like, listen, I'm still gonna be popping. So he went viral for the first time in 2017 with a nearly 24 hour long video of himself counting to 100,000.

[Matt Rogers]

No.

[Lacy Mosley]

And look up there.

[Matt Rogers]

I want to definitively say, I Respect his game. Because if you are committing to sitting there and counting to a hundred thousand, that I respect a commitment to a bit. Yes, always.

[Lacy Mosley]

And he was down. Down, clearly. And so years of tweaking the reality formula, perfecting video thumbnails of himself, like making a what the fuck Face and optimizing video titles and links, it resulted in him becoming the David Blaine of YouTube, spending film 50 Hours Buried Alive, 50 Hours in Solitary confinement. So he still does clickbait stunts and challenges, plus giveaways, like giving one subscriber their own island, as one does. Matt, we also wanted to bring you on the show to ask, when are you gonna give away an island? Because we've seen that y' all can take Long Island. Las Culturiz.

[Matt Rogers]

You want it, take it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Las Cultarizas is not giving away an island yet. And we just feel as though, y'.

[Matt Rogers]

All know, it just kind of sounds like an island y' all need to get on. My dad still pronounces it as Los Co. Costa Rica's. And I'm like, well, that's wrong.

[Lacy Mosley]

Costa Rica. Crazy.

[Matt Rogers]

You were wrong on the first part.

[Lacy Mosley]

He gave away a thousand cataract surgeries to blind people. He was rescuing child slaves in Africa. Wow. But listen, he got on his hat. He really giving the vibes.

[Matt Rogers]

Can you scroll down? What are the comments?

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, oh, God.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, can we say?

[Lacy Mosley]

I am a doctor in I, Idaho who volunteered on a medical mission with GMAD last year. I was very impressed with the organization. It's well run with leadership in the US but also allows the local Ghanaians to run home and keep their beautiful culture while helping many children and families. The surgical center will allow many more people on the long waiting list to be helped. Thank you, Mr. Beast. I encourage medical and non medical people to volunteer to support this blessed organization.

[Matt Rogers]

All right.

[Lacy Mosley]

Wow.

[Matt Rogers]

Lots of. So the. So the big comments that's giving me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Press, like, did somebody send that to you? They're like, everything was so good from start to finish and top to bottom and everybody get involved.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. I never know what's real and what's not. But it seems like the positive comments here are getting a lot of likes. Again, I've never heard of this person and didn't know any of it. But like, if it's helping people, that's amazing. I just, I. I have no idea and I don't know about.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, you'll know after this, Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, I've been nude. I just want to say have been neutral.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, you have been neutral.

[Matt Rogers]

Honestly, I'm Neutral. And I don't. I don't know.

[Lacy Mosley]

Go to the Scam Goddess Instagram page and tell us if you think Mr. Beast is scamming or if he's just a victim of being too popping. He has the most followers on YouTube. Maybe he was just too popping and it's not his fault. We don't know. Most recently, the Mr. The Mr. Beast experience, which has been added to the list of scammy, immersive experiences alongside the Willy Wonka Chocolate Experience. No. In Scotland, the Taylor Swift Holiday House in New Orleans. I've covered both. And the Detroit Bridgerton Ball, which I've also covered.

[Matt Rogers]

So those are all unofficial things that people buy tickets to.

[Lacy Mosley]

And they're not like, Willy Wonka. That was where. Do you remember the sad Willy Wonka, like, girl with the green hair that they started, like, parading on red carpets and shit. You don't see her?

[Matt Rogers]

No, no.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh. So they had a Willy Wonka experience. It was very bootlegging ghetto. And it was, like, in somebody, like, garage. And they really did not, like, they'll pull up some photos for you right now. But it was bootleg as fuck. And people had paid so much money for this and brought their kids and, like, they had the saddest artists perform in there, and they look like they regretted every decision they made in their life. That's her. That's her. They had her, like, at the Met Gala. They was like, we love you, like, vibes. But see, like, they paid a lot of money for this and then showed up and it was this. But they had had all their advertisements done through AI so it looked like it was going to be this huge, immersive, amazing experience.

[Matt Rogers]

The world is scary.

[Lacy Mosley]

It is. And then. And then it was this. Yes. And the kids were crying. The kids were, like, trying to leave. And then there was Taylor Swift Holiday House, where this girl bought a bunch of hotel rooms and then was saying, like, oh, if you have a Taylor Swift ticket, I'll get you a hotel block. And I have all these events planned. She had another plan and she was overcharging for the hotel rooms anyways. And then the last one, Detroit Bridgerton Ball, was like. They were all dressed up like, imagine all these black people, right? I'm like, I don't know why you try to scam people in Detroit. They will beat your ass. It's so cold in the D. How the fuck do we supposed to get pees? Not so cold in the D. How the fuck do we supposed to get peace? Like, I'm not playing with nobody from Detroit.

[Matt Rogers]

So cold in the D. I have forgotten about that.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was like, no, why would you play with these people? You put your life in danger. But so, you know, they tried to do a fake Bridgerton ball, and it was bootlegged, too.

[Matt Rogers]

Did you just have that, like, back in the hippocampus? Was that just in your head? The secretary areas in your brain could just find that file? So cold in the D. Like, wow. Took me really back.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'll be deep in the lore. So. So, you know, like these tickets. Yes. It's okay, y'.

[Matt Rogers]

All.

[Lacy Mosley]

Y'. All.

[Matt Rogers]

Unfortunately, it was a total bop.

[Lacy Mosley]

It was.

[Matt Rogers]

It was a hook.

[Lacy Mosley]

And they were talking about they pain. And they were really trying to tell us, like, it's too much gun violence and it's cold, and we outside, we got no heat. And we were like, it's. It was just like that song.

[Matt Rogers]

What would you do if the song was at home?

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, literally that on the bathroom floor or that song that's like, she's homeless. She's homeless. La di da da da. And we're all like, la da di da da da. And the song is about a homeless lady, and we're like, she's homeless. Turn up, she's home. Let's throw the ass. Like, it's like. It's a cry for help. The song is a cry for help, but we're like, nah, nah. We go twerk.

[Matt Rogers]

Honestly, you put a beat under some devastating words. What you have is a gay anthem.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's what you. You put a be under devastating words. And you have to.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a roller culture. It's just facts. It's like Robin dancing on my own. You know what I mean? She's saying she's alone. Yeah, she's saying she's alone. We're screaming it in a concert together. What she's saying is she's an isolated.

[Lacy Mosley]

Person and she's lonely.

[Matt Rogers]

She's heartbroken.

[Lacy Mosley]

She needs help.

[Matt Rogers]

And we're like, someone has hurt her. She's going to be vulnerable to psychics, anyone giving her any attention.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, gay music is a beat. And then like a 911 phone call.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Where we're all the operator who's like, yeah, can you talk slower? Like, what is your address? We're like, so calm. They're like, I'm being stabbed. Like, who is stabbing you? Describe them. Like, we have no sense of urgency. We're just like, oh, it's kind of a bob. They stab it to a bead. Okay. Like, no, no. So ticket holders pay thousand dollars for a three night minimum stay over April 13th to the 15th at the resorts World in Las Vegas, during which they received the following. An exclusive MrBeast mystery bag of limited edition merch, on site activations and immersive experiences and exclusive menu items. Also themed beverages. And one participant will receive a voucher redeemable for $10,000 in cash.

[Matt Rogers]

Huh.

[Lacy Mosley]

And that we. We got a guy who looks like he got the voucher.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

Up here. Yeah. So he said, like, he did this whole deal with Resorts World. It was supposed to be like they inflated the price for this whole experience. There was no, like, the shirts and the clothes that they gave them did not fit the average person. Like, it was kind of kid sizes and so.

[Matt Rogers]

So are you saying it was giving? Are. Are you saying it was giving Fyre Festival?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, yes. At least he did that in the Bahamas. People had to leave the country, but.

[Matt Rogers]

They could get home.

[Lacy Mosley]

But actually crowdstrike happened too close to it. So April 13th to the 15th was Sunday to a Tuesday. The Resort World rooms on those days of the week usually cost $99 per night.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, those hotels.

[Lacy Mosley]

According to their booking website, fans arrived at the hotel and were told to wait in their rooms for their mystery bags. Some of them waited for two days without leaving. Since many of Mr. Beast's, like, popular videos involve isolation or endurance. So they thought, like, oh, is this a test? We just stay in the hotel room and hopefully they bring us the gift. Like, you got these people down bad. It makes sense that some attendees would interpret the way for the mystery videos as some kind of, like, intentional challenge. But in the end, the bags just contained feastables, chocolates and Mr. Beast T shirts and gear in random sizes. And no one got a $10,000 voucher. So he just didn't make good on any of that. And then he gave them random clothes.

[Matt Rogers]

And we're sure this came from him? It wasn't like someone saying it was him.

[Lacy Mosley]

I mean, this is from his company, but I think he just didn't realize, like, how much more work needed to be done. Because I've heard things about Resorts World Las Vegas outside of this, of it being like kind of a bit of a scammy hotel, but like $99 per night was what was on the website. These Mr. Beast people were paying upwards of like 250 a night to have this experience that had no experiences. And like, he had like these random sizes for shirts and stuff. And I know people like, I talked to people who were at this experience, they said that they were told. And I looked at the website. They were told that they were gonna get merch that hadn't even debuted yet. It was gonna be like signature items and stuff. And it was literally all the leftovers that they hadn't sold in random sizes. A lot of adults were there, like, we can't even wear this. Like, this is for a 12 year old. And. And I'm like, one, it's kind of down bad that you went to a Mr. Beast experience and you grown. But also two, you did pay for it. They should give you what you asked for.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, that's. I. It, it. It seems like all a mess to me. Like in every regard, it's like we.

[Lacy Mosley]

Have a video of an attendee at the Las Vegas events. I really just want my Mr. Beast experience that I paid for. Abigail Marquez is one of many disgruntled Mr. Beasts. Beast fans demanding answers should have been like mini games and meet and greets and photo ops, special food and drink things. And unfortunately, we didn't get any of that. Many coming from out of town, like Teresa Mehta, who trekked from Arizona with her mother for the advertised immersive experience, but leaving disappointed with what they did receive. I was told to wait in my room for two days waiting for a package to come it. So I legit spent two days in Vegas in a room doing Teresa put her hair in a ponytail. She's ready to fight. That was a box of chocolates.

[Matt Rogers]

As for what else they received, we.

[Lacy Mosley]

Were told we were going to each get a mystery bag, but we only got one in the room. And it had kids shorts, an extra extra small shirt, and a hat and like a medium shirt. If you go to MrBeast.com to their merchandise right now, all this stuff is on clearance for $9. We were told we were going to get exclusive merchandise. Obviously that's not the case.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, this. Yeah, but here's. Here's the thing. Once. Once you show up somewhere and it feels not legit and it like, then all. It wouldn't take me two days. Like, come on.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. They thought they were a part of the experience. They were like, maybe we need to stay locked in our hotel rooms. Like, Mr. Beast would lock us up like Jigsaw from Saw.

[Matt Rogers]

Pick yourself, choose yourself.

[Lacy Mosley]

I get that you think you're having.

[Matt Rogers]

The experience, but like, what is the experience?

[Lacy Mosley]

FOMO is ultimately, what if they left and. And then they were like, oh, Mr. Beast popped up and he started doing a jig and they weren't there for that. They would be, like, devastated.

[Matt Rogers]

And that would have been worth it to them. I mean, I guess. I mean, I guess if you love something.

[Lacy Mosley]

I try to use my litmus test of Beyonce.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I know that I love Beyonce so much that if she was like, everybody go to the parking lot of this stadium, and I'll be there in a little bit, I would go and I would.

[Matt Rogers]

You wouldn't find that suspicious?

[Lacy Mosley]

I just want. She said she gonna be here in a little bit. I don't know what a little bit is in black people time. That could be five minutes or that could be five. But I'mma go and have my little tent pitched up because I'm not going to miss my queen. But she's like, I am on my way. I'm like, that's enough for me.

[Matt Rogers]

You'd be like, wow, Beyonce's talking a lot more directly to us than usual. She's kind of telling. She doesn't sound like her. I might want to check in with somebody.

[Lacy Mosley]

Is this AI? Why is she doing this?

[Matt Rogers]

I feel bad for these people, but also, like, to be honest, like, I think that they. I'm watching this, and it feels like they need. They. Maybe they could benefit from learning this lesson.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, but there's Stans. I understand the Stan community.

[Matt Rogers]

So are they no longer fans of his now? Like, are they. Are they like, this broke the camel's back.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I think they're gonna just blame Resorts World for this. That's why I'm like, I don't know if he's a scammer. There was a video posted by the Holiday Channel. Random recess shows. Resort World Video CEO Alex Dixon attempting to explain what went wrong on the final day with the aid of Free Randy's Donuts. So they brought donuts to the people that they stole from. And we're like, here's some donuts. We know you didn't get Mr. Beast or none of his experiences, but here's a donut. Put it in your mouth and be happy. And he said, the hotel did what they had agreed to do. It's not their fault. Nothing else happened for three days. So they were like, we said we were doing the experience, but the Mr. B side didn't deliver, so they tried to blame it on him.

[Matt Rogers]

Something happened.

[Lacy Mosley]

And so the event has now been scrubbed from the hotel's website, and Resorts World is fully refunding guests. Okay, you get a little refunded guests?

[Matt Rogers]

Well, yes, please.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's the bare minimum. They can't get their life back. They can't get the time back. But at least.

[Matt Rogers]

I hope they at least, like, left to eat and stuff.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. So.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, at least it was Resorts World. They can give rooms.

[Lacy Mosley]

One attendee did win the $10,000 voucher, but as we discussed earlier, that voucher was not paid. So they won. And I hope you had your Price is Right moment. I hope that Glee was enough for you.

[Matt Rogers]

So it was not for you, because.

[Lacy Mosley]

You weren't going to get the money.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah. So it was just.

[Lacy Mosley]

But you got the one feeling of the money. You got the feeling that you want.

[Matt Rogers]

That's nothing. That's nothing.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, but isn't life all nothing?

[Matt Rogers]

No, it's something like. Cause at least with $10,000, you go on the vacation. You go on to, like, several vacations.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's true.

[Matt Rogers]

Not just one. To Resorts World.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's true. So Mr. Beast has yet to issue an official statement, but he did respond to several complaints on Twitter. It says X here, but I'm gonna call you what your mama named you. It's Twitter. So he was blaming Resorts World for this issue. And in quotes, it says, this definitely isn't the experience we hope they would deliver, said Mr. Beast. My team's already on it. I'd love to personally make it up to you and anyone else by inviting everybody affected to tour my actual studio later. He said, everyone will get their money back. And we called the people who purchased the experience and are flying them down to my studio. I'll make sure they're happy. So he. And then he put a little smiley face like, hey, y', all, don't be mad. It wasn't my fault, but I'm gonna make y' all happy again. I don't know. It's a good business.

[Matt Rogers]

So this happened in April. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's kind of good business.

[Matt Rogers]

So what has happened since? That's all he said? Was it made up to them?

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, the Monday after the failed experience, Mr. Beast posted a shirtless pic to show off his new jacked physique in a conveniently timed body transformation that worked well to change the media narrative on Mr. Beast for the week. So he was like, okay, it's time to it put post a nude. Listen, this is a great way to change the narrative. It's happened on this show before. We've had guests that, like, there was a living guest, Caroline Calloway, who got into a fight with Jamila Jamil and me online and then eventually posted a nude. And that's how she changed the narrative. And I was like, well, I guess this is honestly.

[Matt Rogers]

Sure, I'll put that one in my back pocket, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

You might have to put some cheek out. Matt, if you say something crazy, you might have to pull out just one cheek.

[Matt Rogers]

Remember, I have an ass.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like people will be gracious with you. You only need just one cheek. Just like a little peekaboo.

[Matt Rogers]

Just one. They'll get maybe one of these days.

[Lacy Mosley]

So then he also had lunch Lee, which was moldy. In September of 2024, he had launched healthier lunchable knockoffs called Lunchly. And he did that with Logan Paul and an English influencer, KSI. One month later, a number of consumers reported finding moldy cheese inside the packages before the expiration date.

[Matt Rogers]

Looks.

[Lacy Mosley]

Look at that mold.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now that's just blue cheese, right? Like, cheese is all mold. So, like, can I eat that still?

[Matt Rogers]

I don't think you want to eat that.

[Lacy Mosley]

What if I refrigerate it?

[Matt Rogers]

No, put some vinegar on it. Nothing that color in nature.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

I mean, blue cheese does have that in the crumbles, that little blue.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so only blue cheese then, in nature, and that's not what that is.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, it wasn't intended to be blue cheese. It's just cheese that turned blue. Never mind. So the and told TMZ, as of October 25th, or 25th rather, the agency has received more than 10 complaints about lunch lease. So far, they're still on the shelves and haven't been recalled. So again, Matt, do we think that's a scam? Like, I mean, he had the Mr. Beast experience. Do we think that's a scam? Do we think the lunch leave with the mold? I mean, I'm still.

[Matt Rogers]

After what you have shown me, if you think I'm going to weigh in with a decision, you are crazy as hell. All I want to do is be left alone by everyone involved in this situation. I can't believe what I'm in front. You showed me a bunch of the craziest images ever and said some of the craziest stuff I've ever heard. Lacey, I want nothing to do with any of this. I am not. Don't you dare put it to me ever again about Mr.

[Lacy Mosley]

Beast. I knew you were going to have to weigh in.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I. You told me I was going to have to weigh in before you said what all this was. And now that I know what all this is, it's a piece. It's a capital P, E, A, C, E. I hope everyone Involved stays blessed, including Mr. Mr. Beast himself. Everyone just keep me out of it if they're scammed, if they're not. Nah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Just like I would have my free will if I went anywhere, and I waited two hours and something didn't show up, not let alone two days.

[Lacy Mosley]

All right, well, listeners, y' all gonna have to stand in the gap congregation when this post comes out. Y' all get on Instagram and y' all tell us where you weigh in on this situation, because clearly, Matt is not going to weigh in on this. He Once he found out that this man is the most followed person on.

[Matt Rogers]

YouTube with 414 million people. Leave me alone.

[Lacy Mosley]

He was like, no, I do not want this fan base attacking me. Listen, we love Mr. Beast. Oh, he's our favorite guy. We love him so bad.

[Matt Rogers]

And I think he's a 10 out of 10 hot.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, so sexy. Sexy, sexy. Beautiful. So sexy. Beautiful. We know he is. And he had these lawsuits at the virtual restaurant Mr. Beast Burger in 2020. So he had ghost kitchens that were, like, making this food and stuff and, like, sending it out on Postmates. So since 2020. In 2020, Mr. Beast has expanded to more than 2,000 ghost kitchen locations globally, including Mexico, Brazil, and the Philippines.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And in 2023, Mr. Beast sued Virtual Dining Concepts, the company he used to make and distribute those burgers, to try to get out of a contract, because he said the burgers were disgusting, revolting, and inedible.

[Matt Rogers]

Revolting.

[Lacy Mosley]

Honestly, Mr. Beast, I'm kind of on your side of, like, maybe scammers are just running up after you, and you're like, yeah, make my burgers. And then you're like, nah, this bur. Nastier. Oh, make this experience. And then you're like, y' all ain't make no experience. Like, maybe you're getting scammed because you have so much clout.

[Matt Rogers]

Like, I mean, I. I guess, like, my whole thing is I just. Because I've never heard of him before. I don't know if he's legit or.

[Lacy Mosley]

Not, because I think that's what happens when you're the most followed person on YouTube. Like, a lot of people are gonna be pitching shit your way. So, like, I can kind of understand what's.

[Matt Rogers]

And then it's like, it's not. It's not necessarily. You can't necessarily be the one that has your hands in all the ways that these things are executed and stuff.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

But the thing is, like, it's kind of like what you're saying. It's not about the food itself, it's about the brand associated with it. And it feels like people ride so hard for this person.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. And they. They made that up in their heads. So now we're reaching the end of this episode. I don't know what this edit is going to look like. God bless you all for staying on this ride. I think this might be the longest episode I've ever recorded. Matt.

[Matt Rogers]

History. There's going to be cuts.

[Lacy Mosley]

But. So las culture restart the award show. I know you have the judging skills and the hosting skills. So you have a list in front of you of 10 celebrities.

[Matt Rogers]

Yes, I do.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I didn't tell you any rhyme or reason or why they're there.

[Matt Rogers]

They're all just very serious in the correct order.

[Lacy Mosley]

They may not be. They're probably not. Okay, but these are the top 10 celebrities used for online scams.

[Matt Rogers]

Really?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. And I want you to guess, like, give me one through ten of, like, who you think is the top ten.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so this is the. This is the list of people. Scarlett Johansson, Johnny Depp, Sabrina Carpenter, Kylie Jenner, Taylor Swift, Addison Rae, Enya, Taylor Joy, Tom Hanks, Blake Lively, and Sydney Sweeney. So if I'm saying which is the number one?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Who's your. Give me your top five.

[Matt Rogers]

So I'm gonna say, by the way, this is really surprising to me to not see some names on here, but I'm gonna say because of. Of how, like, the amount of money associated with this person for what they sell, I'm going to say that Kylie Jenner is number one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Is. Is probably you again. These are people that are used by scammers to make money. I'm going to say Kylie Jenner, number one.

[Lacy Mosley]

You're not rating the celebrities. It's. No, it's which scammers are using this celebrity identity the most.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm going to say Taylor Swift is number two.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm going to say.

[Lacy Mosley]

Say.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm kind of thinking it's weird, some of these ones. I'm gonna say sub. Maybe Johnny Depp number three, because of, like, the characters that he plays. Like, you think you buying, like, merch and stuff, like, from them. And then by the same token, I would probably say number four, Scarlet, because of the marvel of it all. Number five. I'm gonna say Blake Lively.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Number. Number six. I'm gonna say let's go, Addison. Because she appeals to a different demographic, younger demographic.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm talk seven.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm gonna say maybe, like, Sabrina Carpenter, again, because of the touring, like, with tickets and everything. And also like maybe Merts and stuff like that. Eight, I'm gonna say just because she's.

[Lacy Mosley]

So down the list.

[Matt Rogers]

Just because she's so fucking famous. Like, and again, demographically, I'm gonna say Sydney Sweeney. Nine, I'm gonna say Tom Hanks because I don't even know what that could be. And then 10, I'm going to say Anya Taylor Joy, because I'm honestly surprised.

[Lacy Mosley]

She'S on the list in the first place.

[Matt Rogers]

Well, just because I just think of her as like an actress, you know, I don't know how people can scam.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, I mean, she has those doe eyes and you know, the queen's gamut blew up real bad during the pandemic because like, we was all watching her do chess on the ceiling with Quaalus.

[Matt Rogers]

No, I know, but I'm just like, how would you scam people with her image? Maybe for fragrances?

[Lacy Mosley]

So McAfee's 2024 US Celebrity Hacker Hot list runs down the actors who are identities. Their identities are the most often exploited by cyber criminals for online scam. Those actors likenesses were being used without permission on fraudulent schemes that peddled movie or song downloads, deals on celebrity backed products, cryptocurrency investments, or tickets to high demand concerts. So the scammers also sometimes use convincing looking deepfake videos of the actors to get the fans bank information or to install malware on their devices that could result in identity theft. So the head of the threat research at McAfee, whose company also sells production software and deep fake detectors, said that that's why people need to stay vigilant and think twice before clicking. I told y' all not to click on no damn links. While AI generated content isn't always harmful, it's becoming harder and harder to tell what's real and what's fake. Okay, so who's your number one, Kylie? So you're so close, like you're off by one by many of your list. So number one is Scarlett Johansson.

[Matt Rogers]

Number one is Scarlett.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, who's the Black Widow star? And her name and likeness were used for advertisements and endorsements. Johansson has also spoken out against non consensual AI generated content.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, she's been very vocal about that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Having threatened legal action against OpenAI for allegedly copying and imitating her voice.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

So I really appreciate that she's down bad for that. And that's also why I love the Tay Tay Tay Tay Smith fan base. Because baby, if anybody knows how to do a lawsuit, honey, you do not want to see Ms. Taylor in court. She's got a Olympic team of lawyers. Okay. They swim, they do a backflip, and then they walk into court. Like, don't play with them. Number two. So your number one was close. Number two is Kylie Jenner.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I feel like.

[Lacy Mosley]

So the reality star and influencer's name and likeness were used for social media giveaways, scams, and fake Kylie cosmetic products and websites.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I figured that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Number three, you're still one off Taylor Swift.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, that makes sense, because the concerts.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. The mega star singer's name and likeness were used for celebrity endorsements, ticket scams, and product giveaway scams, as well as disinformation. Like Donald Trump sharing an AI fake suggesting that Swift had endorsed him. Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Which. Which had to piss her off so bad.

[Lacy Mosley]

Real bad. She was like, man, please be serious.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, so I had two. So my one was two, my two was three.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mm. So four is actually Anya Taylor Joy.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Lacy Mosley]

The Firosa star's name and likeness have been used for giveaway scams. Her Twitter account was hacked to spread fake Queen's Gambit sequel news. Like, they. Yeah, the girls were. They were unhinged. We loved her so bad. And then they were like, wow.

[Matt Rogers]

People were fanatical.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mm. Number five, Tom Hanks.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay, now what is this?

[Lacy Mosley]

Which is.

[Matt Rogers]

Now, listen.

[Lacy Mosley]

This makes sense to me. If you listen to our 300th episode. Y' all know how much I love Tom Hanks. When Tom Hanks got. I remember when Tom Hanks got Covid.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

And his wife.

[Matt Rogers]

Remember where we were.

[Lacy Mosley]

And the NBA shutdown. We remember where we were, and we.

[Matt Rogers]

Knew it was real.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's our king.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. So obviously, like, he's so trustworthy. He's so affable. I definitely see him as number five, because if Tom Hanks slid into my DMs right now and was like, Listen, I need $50. I'd be like, okay, Tom, what you need? Is it for chat? I will send it right away.

[Matt Rogers]

That would be so.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love him.

[Matt Rogers]

Him asking for a 50 with Forrest Gump money.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's like, me and my homie Wilson, we need $50.

[Matt Rogers]

He was my number nine, and Anya was my number 10, so I know.

[Lacy Mosley]

Those are bumped up. Number six is Sabrina Carpenter. I think you had her at seven.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I had her at seven.

[Lacy Mosley]

So the espresso singer's name and likeness have been used in fake ticketing scams and to advertise an app for creating sexually explicit images. Wow. So she done got pimped out by the nudes. App. That's crazy. Don't like that for my tiny queen. We're both five' nine on the Internet. Love you, sis. Period. Number seven is Sydney Sweeney.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay. Had her at eight.

[Lacy Mosley]

So the anyone but you star's name and likeness have been used for crypto scams, which, I mean, like, that makes sense to me. Crypto bros definitely probably want to look at Sydney Sweeney and buy a coin. So Blake Lively is number eight.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Because she has products and her name was used in a weight loss gummy scam.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, wow. Just so they can just get away with that. What do they do? Like, misspell it a little bit or.

[Lacy Mosley]

Just like, I don't think they were even doing that now that they're using OpenAI and stuff. Like, they're just using your likeness and being like, oh, yeah, she loves this gummy. And so many people aren't actually gonna look into if it's legitimate or not because media literacy. I'm so sorry for Gen Z and Gen A, but I'm a millennial and we grew up with media literacy. Like, they told us what sources were real sources. I can't believe I still see people on Twitter, like, sourcing Wikipedia as their. Their fact base. And I'm like, that was a joke to us. Wikipedia is not a real source. Like, anybody can write on that. Bitch, Are you serious? But, like, we grew up with media literacy. They don't have it no more, so they don't know if this stuff is AI or not.

[Matt Rogers]

No, no, no. Never can't.

[Lacy Mosley]

So number nine is Johnny Depp. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

He was my three.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Because, like, Disney of it all.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Addison must be 10.

[Lacy Mosley]

So number 10. Yes, you're absolutely correct that Matt is Addison Rae. The Diet Pepsi singers likeness has been used without her permission for fake endorsements, giveaways, and crypto scam. I mean, shout out to you, Addison. You started as an influencer, and now you're on the list of the top 10 celebrities who are being used to scam people. Like, that means your career is really excelling, honey. Like, you're really going to new heights.

[Matt Rogers]

She's broke through.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Her breakthrough year.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

She made it onto the top 10.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my goodness. Well, that brings us the end of a wild ass episod. Good Lord, I'mma pray for you, Rich and just. I don't know what the hell y' all gonna do with this, but, Matt, we always ask, where would you like to be found? Anything people can see, watch, follow you, whatever that is.

[Matt Rogers]

You can find me at Matt Rogers, though. On Instagram. I only have Instagram, really. I have TikTok. I sometimes mess with TikTok. I'm getting better. Like, I have a friend that, like, she's sitting over there. She helps me get better with TikTok. I got, like, one of those things you could put a. On the back of your phone so you could smash it up to a window and, like, it stays. What is it called? The octo. Octo, buddy. So, you know, maybe I'll do a fit check every once in a while.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, cute. I gotta start doing more. I do have one little. Like, you have.

[Matt Rogers]

You have a strip. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that little stand.

[Lacy Mosley]

We all got to be Internet babies now. But yes.

[Matt Rogers]

Podcast every Wednesday and Las Culturistas. The culture awards are August 5th on Bravo, and they stream the next day on Peacock.

[Lacy Mosley]

Except the last half. Oh, and I meant to tell you, I saw someone's tweet go viral where you have someone nominated in the journalism category. I think it's like that chicken lady. The lady who just.

[Matt Rogers]

Chicken. We have the Pop Crave Award for excellence in journalism, which obviously is a joke.

[Lacy Mosley]

And a journalist retweeted it, not knowing that it was a joke, and was like, this is what's wrong with journalism today. We can't believe. And everybody in the comments was like, do you not know about lust culture? It's just like, this is a big.

[Matt Rogers]

She decided that was the moment to sort of reveal. She kind of of didn't get it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

And I felt bad for her because.

[Lacy Mosley]

I had to take an L on.

[Matt Rogers]

But my thing is, like, listen, like, sometimes. Sometimes, like, we have a bad day and we clown ourselves on the Internet. It happens to everybody. I wish her the best.

[Lacy Mosley]

Such racist king.

[Matt Rogers]

You know what? I hate when people say this about people, but I didn't. I wasn't aware of her before that. And so I thought, oh, just someone saying something. And then people were like, oh, she's actually kind of legit. And I was like, oh, well, not if she's saying this. But then she put out another tweet that was like, oh, I'm a reader. Which means she's like, enjoys the pop podcast. And I was like, well, that's an interesting stance to take if you're a reader trying to drag us on the Internet for this thing. That was clearly a joke.

[Lacy Mosley]

She tweeted something else and was like, I made a bad tweet. Like, she was like, well, I think she knew.

[Matt Rogers]

She said, I didn't even think about it for 07 seconds until I tweeted it. And then I was like, well, it's interesting that you're calling out bad journalism if you're going to admit that you posted something on the Internet without thinking about.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right. Because that isn't ironic.

[Matt Rogers]

So don't you think? I don't know. It's like, I think that a lot of people must be going crazy right now like, that are, like, trying to report on news because it's all so fucked. So I give grace. It's what it is.

[Lacy Mosley]

The news cycle is crazy. It's like whiplash every day. So we give grace.

[Matt Rogers]

Current events are happening as we speak.

[Lacy Mosley]

Literally. I do not want to pick up my phone and see what the girls are talking about ever, ever. But thank you. And yes, August 5th, y' all watch Last Culture Reese's the avoid. I will be tapped in, tuned in. I love you guys so much. You're both so brilliant. Thank you so much for coming on this show and revolutionizing, missing the format.

[Matt Rogers]

God damn. I didn't even know y' all will.

[Lacy Mosley]

Eventually see and hear the Scams, but we was just Kiki and I'm sorry we forgot y' all were here. But it is on wags and then for me, I'm D I V A L A C I D valacy on all platforms. If you want to watch the first six episodes of Scam Goddess on Hulu, the all episodes are airing now on Hulu. The first season of Going Dutch is also airing now on Hulu. The first season. I am going back to Ireland, guys. I'm going to have a good cook. So for season two. But then also my book, Scam Goddess, you can download it anywhere you download books. You can get the audiobook anywhere you like to put it in your ears. And you can also just buy the physical copy from us or from Hotswag or from anywhere you like to purchase your books. I'm not technically allowed to say where to purchase the book because apparently the bookstore girlies be beef. And that's something I learned when I was writing a book.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, my God.

[Lacy Mosley]

You can't say no. No particular name. Otherwise everybody gonna be fighting.

[Matt Rogers]

Then it's a whole. You get into the publishing wars.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. So we don't want to be a part of those. But yeah. So tap in. And then di b a laci for all my shenanigans. Scam got his pod. If you want to see the photos and the videos from this episode, Scam got his pot on Twitter if you want to chat with me. And yes, that's everything. Congregation, I want y' all to get out there and I really hope that y' all can stay beasting. Okay? Be a beast.

[Matt Rogers]

Get out there responsively.

[Lacy Mosley]

Scam Goddess this has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay Scheming Explore so many ways to save for back to school at home. Whole Foods Market. Find yellow low price signs on no antibiotics ever sliced deli meats and organic lunchbox favorites from their 365 brand. We're talking granola bars, bagged apples and even condiments.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Lacy Mosley]

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[Matt Rogers]

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