The Cocaine Quarterback Con w/ Kimia Behpoornia

Summary

Scam Goddess: "The Cocaine Quarterback Con" — w/ Kimia Behpoornia

Release Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Laci Mosley
Guest: Kimia Behpoornia

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the true story of Owen “O Dog” Hansen, a USC football walk-on who wound up laundering money and running drugs for one of Mexico’s most powerful cartels. Laci Mosley and returning guest Kimia Behpoornia unpack Hansen’s path from being a beach volleyball prodigy crashing on a bunkbed, USC athlete, the team’s “unofficial doctor,” to international drug runner, money launderer, and ultimately a federal convict-turned-protein-bar vendor. As usual, their hilarious, incisive banter explores the absurdities, vulnerabilities, and cultural forces that propel even unremarkable jocks into the heart of global crime networks.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Scam Check-in and AI Anxieties

[04:26]

• The episode opens with Laci and Kimia catching up on recent scam culture, especially the exponential advancement of AI-enabled scams targeting the elderly.
• Kimia laments her parents being especially vulnerable to phone and AI scams:
  “All that happened was every day they'd get a phone call that they would interact with.” — Kimia [03:40]
• Discussion of “deepfake” Oprah pushing bogus weight loss products and the insidiousness of AI-generated viral pet adoption and Telenovela videos on TikTok.
• Laci’s stance: “People who don't have any creativity...get on AI and you just come up with something on there because that's not your ministry.” [05:57]

Modern Tech Scams: Waymo Woes

[07:31]

• Laci and Kimia vent about the risks and misfires of self-driving car services (specifically Waymo) as another flavor of scam.
• Horror stories:
  • Passengers locked inside, cars driving through flooded streets, and detection failures (such as missing road cones).
  • Urban legend of a man hiding undetected in the trunk of a Waymo:
    “One time a girl got into a Waymo and there was a man in the trunk...he was like, I don't know, they put me here.” — Laci [08:12]
• Both express deep skepticism of technological “innovation” nobody asked for:
  “What if we replaced everything you love with a machine and then you do the stuff that you hate?” — Laci [11:27]

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Historic Hoodwinks: The Owen Hansen Saga

Introduction to O Dog

[14:04]

• The main con of the week: Owen Hansen’s journey from privileged, athletic obscurity (son of a construction worker, traumatic child-of-divorce, Redondo Beach) to cartoonish criminality.
• Guest and producer debate his alleged “hotness”; consensus: “That is a thumb come to life.” — Kimia [14:38]

Sports Pipeline to Crime

[15:20]

• Hansen becomes a high school volleyball standout (6’3”, 37” vertical jump), scores a USC volleyball scholarship, then fails to meet the all-star athletic bar and faces losing his scholarship.
• Seeking shortcuts, Owen tags in his neighborhood friend “Spanky,” leading to cross-border steroid runs from a Tijuana veterinarian—smuggled “in his booty crack” (not hole, as he insists in the docuseries) [26:23].

From Bunkbeds to Drug Smuggling

[21:03; 26:52]

• Owen’s “origin story” includes sharing a bunk bed with his father’s renter and developing a suspiciously intense emotional attachment to his volleyball.
• His steroid-smuggling antics escalate from athletics to criminal logistics:
  “This successful smuggling experience gave Owen a high that he continued to chase for the rest of his life.” — Laci [27:05]

Unofficial USC "Team Doctor"

[34:39]

• After connecting with a new plug, “Tank,” Owen acts as the campus “unofficial doctor,” providing Adderall, steroids, and painkillers to student-athletes.
• Laci: “I call scammers in different fields serial entrepreneurs. Or if you sell drugs, you're a street pharmacist. So I love that he's the unofficial USC doctor providing Adderall and non-booty hole roids.” [35:11]

Real Estate Crash & Pivot to Bookie Life

[36:08]

• Post-grad, Owen’s real estate venture (Owenssells.com) tanks with the 2007 crash.
• Next hustle: setting up “betodog.com” to take big sports bets, opening a shadowy Costa Rica office and hiring a 6’6” enforcer named “Cobra” [41:12].
• Insights on digital scamming and millennial tech fluency: “He’s registering domains. You know Godaddy hate to see him coming.” — Laci [40:32]

The Cartel Connection: From Bookie to Mule

[43:24]

• A Mexican cartel client starts betting big, loses, then wins a $220K parlay. Pays up, and soon Owen is being sent “encrypted BlackBerry” phones and asked to ferry $1M in cash from Texas—cutting him in for a $100K fee.
• This marks his “onboarding” to the cartel:
  “That's how Owen started working for the cartel.” — Laci [44:17]

International Crime Spree, Money Laundering, and “Robinhood702”

[45:00–51:51]

• Now running major drug shipments and laundering money, Owen’s biggest problem is how to get millions in cash from Australia back to Mexico.
• Attempted solutions:
  • Packing gold in the soles of Ugg boots.
  • Engaging “Robinhood702”, a masked Las Vegas gambler who claims to “change the world for the better”—using the casino circuit to launder cash.
• Kimia senses a scam within a scam: “Oh, you think he’s keeping it?” — Kimia [50:02]
• Laci, explaining the laundering: “You have to show the government where you got the money from...that's why I'm making millions. There was a bunch of restaurants...pop up overnight....they were fronts.” [50:54]

The Fall: Federal Takedown & Aftermath

[52:32–58:00]

• The feds build a years-long case, finally arresting Owen on a golf course in 2015.
  • Laci's warning: “Target is just like the feds...they will let you hit the same [scam]...but they’re stacking up enough evidence so when they throw the book at you, it’s going to hit.” [53:17]
• Sentenced to 21 years (serves less than 7), lifetime supervision, ordered to pay $5M and forfeit luxury property.
• “If you get out of jail too early, the cartel be like, who you talking to?” — Laci [57:35]

Current Status: From Cartel to Protein Bars

[58:01–59:29]

• Out of prison, O Dog now hustles “ice protein” bars at Venice Beach, inspired by prison recipes.
  “Now you got out of prison and started making that jail talk food!” — Laci [58:18]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On scam culture:
  “Creativity is being commodified in such a way that everyone wants to participate in, everyone wants to go viral...if you don't have any creative instincts...then you get on AI.” — Laci [05:57]

• On technological solutions nobody wants:
  “What if we replaced everything you love with a machine and then you do the stuff that you hate?” — Laci [11:27]

• On trauma hierarchies:
  “There are trauma Olympics...mom trumps grandma...cat does not trump people.” — Laci / Kimia [18:24–18:47]

• On the evolution of a scammer:
  “He needed an excuse to do crime...he was roommates with a stranger in a bunk bed. Sleeping with a Wilson volleyball, that's giving trauma.” — Laci [54:44–54:59]

• On laundering dirty money:
  “Laundering never makes sense to me, so I'm so confused on this part. But that's okay.” — Kimia [50:50]

• On post-prison hustle:
  “Now you got out of prison and started making that jail talk food!...Calling it ice protein is really doing something.” — Laci [58:18, 58:28]

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Timeline & Timestamps

• 04:26–07:31: AI, phone scams, and how their rapid evolution targets the vulnerable.
• 07:31–14:04: Waymo/self-driving cars, new scams from Silicon Valley, skepticism of innovation.
• 14:04–21:03: Introduction to Owen Hansen: upbringing, bunkbeds, trauma, volleyball prodigy.
• 21:03–27:05: Scholarship pressure, bunkbed woes, cross-border butt-smuggled steroids, the taste for risk.
• 34:39–36:42: Becoming USC's underground pharmacist/dope dealer.
• 36:42–43:24: Failed real estate pivot, entering the bookie business, Costa Rican operations.
• 43:24–45:26: Cartel recruitment, laundering drug profits through gambling and retail fronts.
• 50:54–53:17: Casino laundering, scams-within-scams, and the slow hand of the FBI.
• 54:44–57:34: Sentencing, asset seizure, suspicions of snitching to the feds for reduced time.
• 58:01–61:01: Post-prison penance: street vending “ice protein” bars and Laci’s musings on the cyclical nature of rags and riches.

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Episode Tone & Style

Hilarious, quick-witted, sometimes savage but always rooted in compassion for “victims” and perpetrators alike. Laci and Kimia maintain a comedic but incisive analysis of modern scams, cultural privilege, and criminal Darwinism. The banter is deeply irreverent but never cynical—anchored by the sense that “true con” is as much about the systems that scaffold grifting as about the grifters themselves.

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Final Takeaways

• Owen Hansen’s “rise and fall” is a comedy of errors, privilege, and persistent hustle—a tragicomic figure whose ambition for shortcuts finally crashes into the brick wall of federal prosecution…and ends up peddling protein popsicles on the beach.
• Laci and Kimia deftly tie the personal, cultural, and systemic forces that create scammers, blending empathy, humor, and hard truth about inequality, masculinity, and the lure of the con.
• “Stay schemin’,” as always, is less of a how-to and more of a cautionary sermon—one lubricated by laughter, sharp insights, and a healthy dose of internet scam paranoia.

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For More

• Photos and references from the episode are available on Instagram: @scamgoddesspod
• Recent and upcoming live tour dates, book links, and links to the Scam Goddess TV show—all available via Laci’s socials (DIVA LACI on all platforms).

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Stay schemin', congregation!

Transcript

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[Lacey Mosley]

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[Kimia Benpornia]

All.

[Lacey Mosley]

She's an actress, comedian and improv genius that I've had the pleasure of playing with for many, many years. Yes, you might recognize as a lovely lady from shows like Abbott Elementary Hacks, Unicorn Store Reboot, and so much more. Congregation, please welcome my dear friend Kimia Benpornia back to the show. Hi, Kimia.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Damn, Lacey, I miss you so. Much.

[Lacey Mosley]

I miss you, too.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I'm so happy to be here.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know. I wanted to hug you longer, but I was like, I guess we have to, like, get elevator.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know. And it was pretty long to start, you know, so we could have done more.

[Lacey Mosley]

Also, I got caught in a wind tunnel as I was parking my car. And it was a very. Like. I thought I was gonna look fabulous today and have a fabulous start.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, it was very Bridget Jones. It was very, like.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was a struggle. I was low key, embarrassed. It was a struggle. It was.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Have you seen. Because I said so. Have you seen.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but not in a long time.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay. It's like. I think it's in this movie. I think it's Mandy Moore, like, walks over and is trying to go to work and, like, has her dress caught in her underwear and she's Tripp and across the street.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was very much that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's kind of that.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was giving that. And I couldn't even try to make it cute. I was like, I'm giving up. It's Kimia. She knows.

[Kimia Benpornia]

And to me, that's cute. Bridget Jones is my type, so I'm in.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So I have to ask you, Kimia, what's your relationship with scams now? Any scams that have been crossing your eye, Any of you run. Any that have been tried to run on you? Could be anything.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. I'm actually really disappointed in scams right now. Yeah. I think they're really, really getting my parents right now.

[Lacey Mosley]

Damn.

[Kimia Benpornia]

And that's. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I, like, I went to visit them for Thanksgiving and all that happened was just every day they'd get a phone call that they would interact with.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, no.

[Kimia Benpornia]

And give information to. And I was like, stop, Stop. It's a scam.

[Lacey Mosley]

Stop.

[Kimia Benpornia]

My mom has canceled, like, five credit cards.

[Lacey Mosley]

You need to call them more, Kimia.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I am.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's why they're talking to the scammers.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Don't put that shit on me, Lacey.

[Lacey Mosley]

I am. I'm putting all that shit on. You're their only daughter.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

You're their only child. You have to call them, like, twice as much as other families to compensate for the other sibling.

[Kimia Benpornia]

They are calling me now to ask me, like, is this a scam? Has this happened to me? So that's good. They just don't like to bother me. And I don't think it's a bother. That's, like, their perspective that they're bothering me. No, I'd love to help them not get scammed.

[Lacey Mosley]

Exactly.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes. And then also, you know, AI is like really tricking my mom on the Internet. Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's getting harder and harder to tell.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's really bad. She thought she ordered some like weight loss thing from Oprah and she sent me the video and I was like, that's not Oprah, man.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, it was Orpah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was ORP's inping. Yeah. No, no, we hate orbs and pick. You get a shot. You get a shot. You get a shot.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, it's tough. It just like so didn't look like her either. Just kind of was her face. And it wasn't even tracking well in the video. And then it's just. I don't know what to do.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. If that one's getting them, then the more advanced ones I know from like Sora and other places are probably getting them because I get on TikTok and I have to like, look at the video and then check the comments or like really stare at how the people are moving. Like if they're moving too smooth, if the movements are too fluid, it's AI because it's. People move a little bit more jerky. And so I look at that. Or like one time it got me.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Uh oh, it got me.

[Lacey Mosley]

But like, I checked the comments before I said anything. Cause I was about to say something like the video like made me tear up. It was like, this is a pet adoption. Son of.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I fucking saw that. It's where the dogs pick you. Fuck that video. We cried so hard watching that video. And then it was like, that's AI. That sucks.

[Lacey Mosley]

That sucks. Cause I was like, maybe I'll go to this place and a dog will choose me. No, it's not fucking real. That sucks. Oh, that was a bummer one.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. And it's like, I don't understand who is deciding to do that with AI. What do you gain from tricking everyone in this way?

[Lacey Mosley]

People who don't have any creativity. And now it's like creativity is being commodified in such a way that everyone wants to participate in, everyone wants to go viral, everyone wants to go live and get money off of TikTok or whatever. And if you don't have any creative instincts, if you're not naturally funny or you don't do videos of you like cooking gourmet meals for your dogs in a tiny dog sized kitchen. Like, if you don't have that kind of innovation, then you get on AI and you just like come up with something on there because that's not your ministry.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang. Savage. Get them. You're so right.

[Lacey Mosley]

I hate them. You know what I hate? To the fucking AI? Telenovelas on TikTok. Have you seen these?

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, I'm not on my anymore. So I get all my videos. I get all my videos a month late on reels.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's literally.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, they're like this little tone of Ellis now would be like, she was a rich heiress whose baby was switched by her husband to the mistress's baby at birth. And then when the inheritance. And like, sometimes I'll be watching, I'd be like, damn, this is crazy. And I'm like, why am I. This is fucking AI. I can't watch these. Like. Dang. They're trying. They're really trying to replace actors.

[Kimia Benpornia]

They are, but are those actors better than me and you?

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Come on.

[Lacey Mosley]

No way. But now people consume slop. There's so much on television.

[Kimia Benpornia]

We're being trained to like that now. That's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're like, we'll give them whatever we feed them. They have no choice.

[Kimia Benpornia]

God, we're little piggies in a trough now. Damn. I don't know how it's your job on this pod.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm trying. I'm doing my best. I'm doing my absolute best. I'm trying to think of. Oh my gosh, the scam that is pissing me off right now. Fucking wayos.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay? They're a scam to me.

[Lacey Mosley]

They are. I believe you self driving car, right? That people have gotten locked inside of them when they were trying to like get out to their destination. They've been driving through like large, like shallow banks of water because the waymo can't detect that there's like a large amount of water that they're driving through.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Doesn't know what water is.

[Lacey Mosley]

When they drive down roads, you know how sometimes you have to merge? Cause there's construction and there's like cones on the road. The waymo can't see the cones.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So it was driving like it was on a normal street, like just running over cones.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

One time a girl got into a Waymo and there was a man in the trunk.

[Kimia Benpornia]

What do you mean? What do you mean about that? You gotta have to explain.

[Lacey Mosley]

And he was like, I don't know. They put me here.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, that's not enough. No, Lacy, reread that article or watch.

[Lacey Mosley]

The videos are supposed to like sense if there's more than one body in the car or whatever. There's like scanners. You're basically getting scanned the whole Time and it's scanning the road. And so it was hiding in the area where I guess the scanner didn't like see him. And so this girl got into the car. This is like a news story. I checked it. It wasn't AI.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Why was the guy in the trunk? I don't need to know anything beyond that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I still don't know why he was in the trunk.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You said they put me here.

[Lacey Mosley]

He said that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He said who put him there? The way muscle get in the trunk.

[Lacey Mosley]

The they put him there. The they, they put him there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Damn.

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Damn.

[Kimia Benpornia]

A waymo pulls up and, and tells you to get in the trunk. What are you gonna do?

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, it's a machine. I'm scared. I'm scared of it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I'll probably get in.

[Lacey Mosley]

The waymos are getting accidents. They're holding up traffic.

[Kimia Benpornia]

They can go on the freeway now. Can you believe that?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, I've seen them on the freeway. It's terrifying. That shouldn't happen because I'm like, here's my biggest example of why I don't think that we need them. Like yes, human error is like fucking huge as hell. But there's something that the eyes can do, the brain can process that a waymo can't do. Yeah, a waymo can scan the area and make sure you're not running into another car, you're staying on the road or whatever. But one time I think it was Ellie. You know Ellie Woods?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

She had posted on Facebook. So obviously this was years ago. Cause I don't read dang Facebook. Yeah, back in the ancient times.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay, let's hear it.

[Lacey Mosley]

She posted on the Book of Faces.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

And I just so happened to see it. And she was like, guys, please stop texting and driving. Whatever you're looking at can absolutely wait and it's not worth your life. And I'm such an angel anxious person that if I see an email pop up or if it's work or something, I will like glance at it or I will like pick up my phone. And I remember I saw something pop up on my phone from like my reps or something and I was like, oh, this is probably important. And then I was like, wait, Ellie said, don't text.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's so sweet.

[Lacey Mosley]

And in that moment I looked up, I put my phone down and I looked back up. I was like glancing down. Yeah, I looked back up and I saw that there was like this, you know those rinky dink, like beat up like Ford, like trucks that are like, they have a back to them. Like they have the.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's kind of rude description.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, no, because they're like construction trucks. So they're constantly, like, hitting shit or getting dinged up or whatever. They're like the smaller ones. So I look up and I see one has these, like, haphazard window panes, like stacks of window panes, like, haphazardly tied around the bed of the truck. And I was like, ooh, I need to get out of this lane. And two seconds, I kid you not, I'm on the, like, 101, these window panes start flying off the back of the truck.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

And if it was a Waymo, I would have just been getting hit with window panes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's true. The Waymo can't decide.

[Lacey Mosley]

The window pane can't be like, oh, this is not a lane to be in. Or, oh, this person is driving recklessly. I should move.

[Kimia Benpornia]

The Waymo doesn't know Ellie Woods.

[Lacey Mosley]

No.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Wouldn't have saved a life.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's why I hate them.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I hate them too. Get them out of here.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know. We don't need them. And that's the whole thing about AI and all this technology that these tech bros are making. They're like, this is so innovative. And we're like, nobody asked for this.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Exactly.

[Lacey Mosley]

What if we place everything you love with a machine and then you do the stuff that you hate? Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. I don't think that's how the pitch went, but that is how it is manifesting in our daily lives.

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[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. I'm starting with hate.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Is that bad? I shouldn't start neutral, but I'm starting.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. I think base level hate is good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Good. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, yeah. And then maybe you'll rise up to love.

[Kimia Benpornia]

We'll see.

[Lacey Mosley]

So we're talking about Owen Hansen. So Owen Hansen went from a beach volleyball prodigy to USC football player to international drug dealer mud for the most powerful cartel in Mexico. So I want to go back here. So this is Owen.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, I'm seeing that. And this is. Can I just say, before we started, Jess was like, this guy is hot. And now I'm looking at him. What do we think here? That is a thumb come to life.

[Lacey Mosley]

In my defense, he gets hot as we go. Okay, okay. Maybe Jess. Cause you literally told us before we started recording Jess that he was going to be hot. And I'm looking at a guy that's like, he gets paid 20 bucks to stand in the lineup like every week. Like, his face is so unremarkable.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I would like to take a needle and just stick it in his side, let a little bit of air out. Then I think we'll be good. Just kind of the air out, and then we're good.

[Lacey Mosley]

You put a little bit too much air in the tires.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That guy. That's that guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, I can see it. His PSI is way too high. Too high. Just way too high. But. So I love that he went from beach volleyball prodigy to USC football player, which. That's a great football team. And then to, like. So these two things, like, obviously, he's a great athlete.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, if you can go from one sport to another that are both very difficult, like. Okay, props to you. Now, how do we jump to international drug dealer, slash money launderer for the most powerful cartel in Mexico?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't know. I guess anyone gets desperate.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. What's the USC football player pipeline to, like, cartel?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Well, I guess it's just. I don't know. It's like, last year, if the cartel approached me, I'd be like, sure, there's no work in la. I guess I'm going to a cartel.

[Lacey Mosley]

You're two teaching improv at the cartel.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I'm just kind of like, that's maybe how he got there. There wasn't a lot of sport job to do.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. It's like, you've got to take your sports skills to, like, I don't know, murder for hire. Those people have to be very athletic.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. So maybe. Maybe so. He's now the subject of the docu series Cocaine Quarterback on Amazon. So, of course, he already has a docu series.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cocaine Quarterback is a great name.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

It could mean so many things. I'm intrigued by lots of cocaine. Before, he used to like throwing routes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, I guess.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I guess. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. Yeah. Is he quarterback in the cocaine? They're like, he's our best coke guy. Like, I think you're.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I think that's why they named it that.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's exactly freebie a blow.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

All right, so, Owen O Dog Hansen. Okay. O Dog. I hate O Dog.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

He does have a body.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, he has. Okay, Jess, we let some air out. This is.

[Lacey Mosley]

We let some air out in this photo, and he does have a body. Okay. Okay, I see him. O Dog. I feel like I'm only gonna let you get away for having the nickname O Dog. If you have that many muscles. Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Or if somebody else gave it to you and you can't help it, but it feels like this guy decided himself that. It's like, call me O Dog.

[Lacey Mosley]

He started floating it. Yeah, that's what it is. He was like, yeah. Hey, hey, bro. My name's Owen, but you can call Me O Dog. Oh, God. That's how he did it. Yeah, that's how he did it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Ugh.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, I love that. Wait, what would be your introduction name if you were floating a nickname?

[Kimia Benpornia]

To be fair, If I was floating a nickname. Shoot. Hang on, hang on. We'll get something good. All I can think of is cocaine and K Dog, so I can't freaking get past it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Does it have to coincide? Could I be like, hi, my name is Lacey, but you can call me Smoochie.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Ooh, that's cute.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, smoochie. That's Smoochie over there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Wait, my name is Kimia, but you could call me Cutie. Ah, crap. I'm so bad at this. Can we not do this exercise anymore?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. Not exercise.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, that was an improv exercise.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was just a little zip zaps up.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. Oh.

[Lacey Mosley]

Haven't done those in a while.

[Kimia Benpornia]

We don't need it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So. Odog grew up in Redondo Beach, California, the son of construction worker dad who went through a pretty rough divorce. So his dad got divorced. And, you know, that's like, the most traumatic thing that's happened in most privileged people's lives is they're like, my parents got divorced, and it changed my life, and it's all my trauma, and I'm.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Like, dude, mm, that's the worst you got. That's it.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's the worst you got.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know. I know that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I acknowledge that shit to yourself.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

There are trauma Olympics there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's true.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. I hate when I see a post and it's like, oh, I'm missing my mom today. And then someone in the comments is like, oh, yes, I remember when I lost my, like, fourth cousin. I'm like, I think mom Trump's fourth cousin.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's true.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mom Trump's grandma.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, you can't be like, that's your mom.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, oh, I lost my cat the other day. Like, cat is not people.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cat does not trump people.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right. I guess we're just trying to find community and share grief. But.

[Lacey Mosley]

And everyone is entitled to feel how they feel.

[Kimia Benpornia]

But there is a hierarchy. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

You just kind of know when to be quiet.

[Kimia Benpornia]

So just kind of clock in. If someone posts about their cousin, then you can talk about your fourth cousin.

[Lacey Mosley]

Exactly. That's cousin time.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's what we're saying here. Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Owen stayed with his dad while his sister went away to live with their mom.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Ooh.

[Lacey Mosley]

So they beefing.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Giving Miley Cyrus. Like, some people got some Kids in the divorce. Some people got some others and they're.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Like girls and boys split.

[Lacey Mosley]

Which, like, okay, I would rather live with my mom even if I was a boy. Cause I just feel like the house is gonna be like the fridge is gonna be stopped. It's gonna be nicer. Like she'll probably get. But you know what though? The advantage of living with the dad is he'll get you a new mom faster.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Let's see.

[Lacey Mosley]

He will.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Come on.

[Lacey Mosley]

Guys get divorced. They're like already on the apps. They haven't even signed the papers. Like, you'll have a new mom in like 48 hours.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't see that as a bonus.

[Lacey Mosley]

It is. Because you know, those types of men are looking for a woman who's gon support them. And then you get that trickle down support that trickle down Secretary stepmom. No, that's a good movie. Secretary stepmom.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You can write that. You can have that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I can have that one. You know what?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Just put me in it.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'll put you in it for sure.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I can't join the cartel.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not right now.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, no, no, no. Hopefully this year's better.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but if it's not, I mean, I will go to the cartel. See kilos. I'm familiar. I feel like I could do a good job. I could be a personality hire for the cartel.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

That's good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I can just kind of of move stuff in the stock room. I feel like I'm really focused on one task. I could just sort out the drugs for them.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like that's how you don't get murdered.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's nice.

[Lacey Mosley]

Now you might have to do it in your underwear because I think they don't want you to be stealing.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, that's fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Or they'll meet me and know that this person will never touch the drugs.

[Lacey Mosley]

Maybe I can do like. Yeah, that's true.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You talk to them for two seconds, they're like, are you sure it's giving.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like upper level management?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, you got a clipboard for the drugs?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I'm like, so you need what?

[Lacey Mosley]

Where?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Got it. Uh huh.

[Lacey Mosley]

I definitely would probably try to steal the drugs. I feel like they would know that about me. Like, so I feel like I need to be in like the leaves process. Like when it's not the drug yet.

[Kimia Benpornia]

When it's getting process, you're gonna be a chemist. You're making the drug. Good God, you gotta go back to school for that.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Owen goes with the dad, and Owen slept on the top bunk with a renter sleeping on the bottom bunk so his dad could make some extra cash. See, this is what I said about going to live with your dad. Now you got you living underneath the border. It's giving. Hey, Arnold. Like, why are so many people, they.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Built their own rooms in. Hey, Arnold.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's true. That's true. They did. And how you gonna have your son sharing a room with a renter? You don't know these renters.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Who's this renter who's like, yeah, I'll sleep under your son and then, oh yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Are you putting that in Craigslist? I hate this Bed for rent son is upstairs bed neighbor. What?

[Kimia Benpornia]

God, this guy's kind of a hero. Now that I know. He ends up like on USC football through all this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. I'm kind of not mad at it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Ok.

[Lacey Mosley]

This divorce sent Owen into a spiral. And we. And we feel that spiral for you. We do. As a California kid, beach volleyball became his drug. He says, I didn't drink, I didn't do drugs. I slept with my volleyball above his bed neighbor.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, right.

[Lacey Mosley]

He left that part out, but that's where he was sleeping. So imagine being the below deck neighbor. And it's like you got somebody sleeping like they cast away with like Wilson, like just up there with your volleyball. Yeah. Are you taking the volleyball to bed every night? Okay, O dog. Whatever you gotta do to survive. So volleyball went pretty well for him. By high school, he was 6 foot 3 and had a 37 inch vertical jump, which is really high.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

The average vertical jump for a man, if you don't know, is 20 inches.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, wow. Then yeah, that's high.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's how we always joke about in the Olympics. We need one regular person next to all the super human people so we.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Can actually gauge how impressive that is.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they need that in basketball too. I, I hate like when I, I'll sometimes click on like sports fans. Guys who are like really up in arms and like tweeting @lebron or tweeting K, you know, whoever. And like look at their physique and like look at them. And I'm like, you could never do what they do. You are not entitled to an opinion.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Totally.

[Lacey Mosley]

I just think if you can't do it, you should shut up.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, but that's their fandom. What else are they gonna yell about? They're mad at somebody else, but they're yelling at kd.

[Lacey Mosley]

Someone said sports fans are just like K pop fans in a different vibe.

[Kimia Benpornia]

They are.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's true.

[Kimia Benpornia]

The way I feel about the WNBA is how my friend feels about K Pop.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

So I got it. They know I got it.

[Lacey Mosley]

They know. They have the fancams. Yes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's the freaking same.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he got this vertical, right? He's got all this volleyball talent. This got him a volleyball scholarship to usc, which is, if you don't know, the University of Southern California.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Boo. Boo. I went to ucla, so I have to do that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay.

[Kimia Benpornia]

So you have to do that. I just kind of have to do that. Yeah, you have to do that.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, it's fine. I'm glad you did it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. Thanks.

[Lacey Mosley]

They would be disappointed if you didn't.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to do it.

[Lacey Mosley]

So it's a school for, like, the rich kids of celebrities, you know, who didn't get into Ivies, and later, you know, it would become the primary site for the Varsity Blues scandal, which, if you don't know, it was like, rich people and celebrities were bribing coaching staff, or they were like, bribing tutors who were really good at taking the SAT into, like, cheating on the SAT for their kids and all. So if you don't remember Varsity Blues, we have a great episode on it. It's super fun because these people are crazy.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yep.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Owen would never have thought going to USC without a scholarship. Right. Cause he's, like, on the top bunk of his debt. You know, he don't got money for that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Unfortunately, when he got there, the volleyball coach threatened to cut him from the team if he didn't improve his strength and vertical jump. So remember, he couldn't go there without a scholarship, so volleyball is for him to live.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, totally.

[Lacey Mosley]

He living off the ball.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. Wait, improve it more than. Didn't we already say he's like a. Got a crazy impressive vert.

[Lacey Mosley]

I. I guess it was for high school, but then he got to usc. Those are top tier athletes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Athletes are tough, man. Once you hit the top, everyone's like, no, there's more.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, there's more.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You could keep going.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I'm sorry. You were. You were in a barrel, babes. This is the ocean. This is the ocean.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That sucks. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, like, you're krill. Babes. We got whales out here.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, my God.

[Lacey Mosley]

Stressful.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So stressful. So that makes me feel bad for him because I really want him to be able to get his school.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he could have really, like, hit the gym, but instead he hit up his Mexican friends from Redondo, including one particular.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay, keep going.

[Lacey Mosley]

It could have hit the gym, but.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Then he was like, nah, that's such a funny sentence.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'mma hit up my Mexican friends from Redondo because y' all ain't making me jump higher. I'm jumping high enough, bitch. So one of his friends in particular, whose name was Spanky.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Spanky, took Owen to Tijuana to a veterinarian where they bought steroids to smuggle back to the U.S. okay, this is starting to thread for me now. This is starting to make sense why he hit up Spanky. He was like, I don't want to hit the gym. Spanky, can we go get these roids from Tijuana? Right?

[Kimia Benpornia]

From a vet.

[Lacey Mosley]

These Chihuahua roids.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. Yuck.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Owen got the drugs across the border and. And his booty crack. No, not the hole.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

The crack.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Fine.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. So they were cleaner. Okay.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I mean, are they just. For him, it's fine. He could put it on his butt and take it.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's very insistent on this in the documentary that don't say it was booty hole.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It was not a no homo.

[Lacey Mosley]

Not a no homo.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Come on, buddy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ain't gonna smuggle drugs and be like. Pause.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, they're smuggling. And this booty hole and booty crack. They right there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It absolutely wasn't his hole then it had. That's kind of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because he's saying he's. He's. Why is he saying it so much that they weren't? Yeah, yeah, they were.

[Kimia Benpornia]

We got you, Odo.

[Lacey Mosley]

It was probably like he. There were probably some overflow in the crack, but.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this successful smuggling experience gave Owen a high that he continued to chase for the rest of his life. I'm sure when you put steroids in a orifice, you get quite the high.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

So the butt steroids got Owen so jaxed that one of the coaches for the USC football team noticed his muscles and asked him to try out for the team, even though he had never thrown a football in his life.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

So a coach saw and was like.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Man, sometimes you just need to be a big boy for sports. Isn't that kind of a bummer?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

What to think about where I'm like, okay, wait, is that. Is that the same for women? I guess you could be tall, and then they're like, play basketball. But you still have to be coordinated. You still have to coordinate. Sometimes being a big boy in football is just. You kind of got to stand there and ram yourself into another guy. Am I simplifying football too much?

[Lacey Mosley]

But I feel like there's probably some, like, volleyball People who are just super tall and, like, you try to spike it over the net and they're just like, no. Like, they just raise their hand.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's their only job. That's fair. I'm just so small. I'm so jealous.

[Lacey Mosley]

I know. I mean, athleticism is just. It's luck, man. It's luck. You get it or you don't. You can work real hard at it, but sometimes you're just never going to get there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's so a bummer.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's why I miss middle school sports. Because they really started to weed out the delulus and the people whose parents were, like, pushing them into sports, trying to relive their, like, high school fantasies. And then, like, I don't know about you, but, like, I tried to play basketball.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes. I also tried.

[Lacey Mosley]

I auditioned. See, I'm going to say I auditioned for the basketball team. That's not what you do. You don't audition for. You try out. Yes. That's how I knew I shouldn't be there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

I have basketball auditions today.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, Lacey.

[Lacey Mosley]

I was like, let me watch some High School Musical and get prepared. And they did the nicest thing, though. Like, when all the tryouts were done, they had, like, three different teams, right? They had the varsity, the jv, and then, like, the losers, the backup stream.

[Kimia Benpornia]

We didn't have the third team where.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'm from, just shaking our head like.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, no, we just had the.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. It was just the two then. Okay. That makes you feel better.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

But when the tryouts were over, they handed you a letter. And so everyone got a letter. They didn't put it up on the board to try to embarrass your ass. They handed you a letter, and then you left. You went home and you opened your letter on the bus so you could cry in private. I didn't cry, but I was like, I'm not gonna get in. And I opened it and was like, yeah, I figured, yeah. So, you know, we can't all be Owen. We can't all be Odab.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know. Good for him.

[Lacey Mosley]

He became a walk on for the football team in 2003 as a title in, like you said, big boy. He wasn't a quarterback, even though the docu series called him cocaine quarterback. That just hit different, like, cocaine tight end feels like something else.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's what he doesn't want. He doesn't want us to think about it in his booty hole, I think.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cocaine tight end. If you know, you know. Damn, Lisa, that's a deep cut for some Gays, so they'll know. You can Google it, but I don't recommend Googling it. Just. Just ask a friend. So Owen's teammates included lots of future pro NFL players like Matt Lionheart and Reggie Bush.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I've heard of that one.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes, we've all heard of. I mean, cause of Kim K. Is that why you heard of Reggie Bush? Or because of the Heisman? Or because they took the Heisman back? Or because they gave it back to him later?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I think it's just because of Wendy's commercials, unfortunately.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wendy's commercial.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, look at that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

So that's really good.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Let's see.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's him with Kim K. They dated.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, they did.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay, good for her. Listen, she's seen everybody, huh?

[Lacey Mosley]

She's. Listen, she's trying every flavor. Like, at the Baskin Robin. She's in just, like, maybe an athlete, maybe a comedian, you know, maybe a smart guy, maybe a dumb guy. You know, I love it. So, like, on the volleyball team, Owen didn't actually play very much, but the partying was. Was epic. Of course it was, because people are like superstars. They're on national television every day, and people are watching these games. So while partying with the team in Vegas, Owen met UFC fighter Chuck Liddell and a man named Tank, who would also become a close friend of Owens. Yeah, I feel like if your name is Tank. Okay, so is that Chuck? That's Chuck.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's Chuck. Nice, Chuck.

[Lacey Mosley]

What's happening here?

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's what I thought he'd look like.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, it's like he had a mohawk, but they drew it on with a pencil. Like, it's so much head left over on each side. Like, too much head. Like, what's happening?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah. It is not a great hairstyle. Is his beard a different color?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. That's okay.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's maybe normal. No eyebrows, though.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, no eyebrows. He doesn't need those.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

There's a lot going on with his head. It's a little Robloxy. But you know what? Good for. For him. And then we have Tank. Okay. And does Tank have an Angelina Jolie tattoo on his neck? No.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's gotta be a family member.

[Lacey Mosley]

It looks like Angelina.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, it does. Not to me. Okay, weigh in in the comments.

[Lacey Mosley]

It could be a poorly drawn Angelina in every tattoo artist.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Not Angelina.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. Angelisha didn't.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It could be.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yes. This guy definitely looks roided up like Tank.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, totally.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look at that hairline he be doing, Royce.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know he get up every day, everybody fighting. It's several holes in the in the walls of his house.

[Kimia Benpornia]

What?

[Lacey Mosley]

Just for mild inconveniences.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay, just from punching, I got you.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like on hold too long with his cable provider. He's like, you can't have gas, you dang Tank Robbery.

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[Lacey Mosley]

And fraud. So Tank had a better hookup for performance enhancing drugs than the Booty Booty.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Than the veterinarian in Mexico.

[Lacey Mosley]

Ok, so Tank took Owen up and Owen became the unofficial team doctor for the USC football players.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, no.

[Lacey Mosley]

And other sports too. Providing illegal drugs for players who were injured or wanted an extra boost or needed Adderall to stay awake in class. So I love that he's the unofficial team doctor. Like what a class?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, exactly. He can call him a doctor. Also check out usc. Cheating so hard. Cheating so hard.

[Lacey Mosley]

Come on.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I Bet every. I bet UCLA did this too.

[Lacey Mosley]

But I love this branding. Like, I call scammers who like, like our him in different fields. They're serial entrepreneurs. Or if you sell drugs, you're a street pharmacist. So I love that he's the unofficial USC doctor providing you with Adderall and. And non booty hole roids.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And illegal drugs. So whatever you needed basically kind of had it off. He's a pharmacy.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, he was.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love that the USC football team won the national championship game in 2005, and they were on top of the world.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Wow.

[Lacey Mosley]

Owen didn't play in the game, but his dad did see him on TV during the celebration after the win. That's sweet. For his dad. He was probably sitting in his bunk bed, like, full circle moment. That's my boy. That's my boy. To his bed. Roommate. Yes, that's him.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's my boy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So what does a former collegiate athlete, drug dealer do when he graduates and isn't good enough to play in the NFL? While his friends went off to play pro football, Owen started Owenssells.com. oh, okay. He got. He went and registered a domain.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

What do you think he's gonna be selling?

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's drugs, right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Come on.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No.

[Lacey Mosley]

Selling real estate.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, he's not. I should have guessed better.

[Lacey Mosley]

I could have got there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

But that was just in time for the real estate crash of 2007.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, boy.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I mean, this is. Things are not working out for Odog.

[Lacey Mosley]

It wasn't. And this is the economy. This is a millennial story. Odog was really pulling himself up by his bootstraps. He went from, like, bunk mate neighbors, truly, to, like, you know, prestigious school athlete to another prestigious school football team at the same, you know, university. Now he's got the booty drugs. Now he's upgraded from the booty drugs to the, you know, tank drugs.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And now he's a USC unofficial team doctor. And then he tries to do Owen sales, which is definitely what I would think about for real estate. Like, I think when I Google real estate, it, like, comes up number one for sure. Owen sells.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Cause it's a great name for, like, a real estate company.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

So now he's pivoting. Guess what he pivots to.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, God, I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

I'll wait.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You're gonna. Okay, so I'm gonna give a good guess. He pivots to building furniture.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wow. How wholesome. Like, Jesus. Yeah, no, he pivoted to being a bookie.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, okay. Of course. And now looking at this photo that we've got up, that's the most bookie looking man.

[Lacey Mosley]

That man definitely look like he booking. He booking everything. And he breaking. You just know. He got a tie. Ride in his car at all times.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes. I mean, his head is in the shape of a pin also, Jess, he did not get hotter.

[Lacey Mosley]

I will.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I'm gonna say it. It's just this picture with Tank guys just kind of. That. You kind of like his smile there.

[Lacey Mosley]

And just. I don't even know if he's hot there because he's wearing so much man makeup. He's got on a hat with the brim turned backwards so we can't see the forehead size. He got these huge ass shades on, so we can't see the eyeballs. And if they're giving dead in the face, we're only getting lower half. It's like a reverse Covid mask on the top of his face is bl. And we just get to imagine everything else.

[Kimia Benpornia]

So maybe it was a smile and abs.

[Lacey Mosley]

You just smile and abs just. It was just smiling abs.

[Kimia Benpornia]

How simple.

[Lacey Mosley]

I do miss that in Covid days where you could, like, see people out in their masks and their eyes would be beautiful, and you just, like, imagine what their face looked like.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You missed this. The whimsy.

[Lacey Mosley]

You Covid. I don't miss the COVID And I.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Don'T miss this part where you could just.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God. Grocery store and just, like, looked at people's eyes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, I didn't.

[Lacey Mosley]

They look like they could be hot.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right.

[Lacey Mosley]

But then sometimes they would, like, take the mask off, and I'd be like, oh, my God.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That was the stressful part. You're like, dang, it does really matter.

[Lacey Mosley]

The halves of the face do so much. And I would argue it's like how you cut something through the center. Like, what would that be like for y' all out here listening? Like, you know how you can cut?

[Kimia Benpornia]

What are you talking about? Symmetry. You trying to describe symmetry?

[Lacey Mosley]

No, but I mean, just, like, slicing it in half.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I got you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but from, like, top to bottom.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, horizontally.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, there we go.

[Kimia Benpornia]

There you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Gosh, it took me a while to get there. I really need to eat something. Jesus. I was like, no, but you know. You know, when the.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, I got you.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you know, Pythagorean theory and then trying. Okay, you got me. So horizontal. I feel like that's the cut. It's like, horizontal.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's where it matters.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but that's a good scam for Y' all cover up that top half. If that bottom half doing something for people, you know, that is a good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Scam for you all. I hope you find love. Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

Know which top of your face is the good part?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

Put that on your ass. Apps. This guy has no bottom part of his face on his lap. It's just eyes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It could be. The mystery is what pulled you in. Right, Lacey?

[Lacey Mosley]

So he had observed bookies at parties in Vegas. This is Owen. And he thought he had what it took to do it, given his sports background. So I love that he was inspired by these bookies. He was like, this looks like something like. That's what I'm talking about. Representation matters, you know? Has he even had the bookie outfit?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes, yes.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's given bookie. So on betodog.com he is registering domains.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like, I know. Godaddy. Hate to see him coming.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's really millennial too, right? Just like, making sure you got your domain locked in.

[Lacey Mosley]

And that's like one of my favorite things about millennials right now. Trolling this administration is like, because they're so boomerish, they don't realize, like, when you start something, you need to, like, buy the donation name. So, like, when Trump slapped his name on the Kennedy center, they didn't get the donate the domain. No, they didn't, but somebody did. Someone bough. So now they can't get it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's right. I bet you a millennial freedom fighter has to be.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, it's us. Shout out to Tom from MySpace. He taught us how to code a little bit.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

And we're using it for good. Now, we might not be coming outside, but we're. But we're using it for Good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So betodog.com is where Owen took big sports bets from shadowy characters online. He opened an office in Costa Rica. Okay. Why are you in Costa Rica? Oh, dog. Why are you anywhere? I don't even understand. So. And he had it in enforcer named Cobra.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay. His friends have fun nicknames.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right? All of them. And so Cobra is like a six foot six tall blood. Blood. Uh oh, like he in the gang.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's what I mean.

[Lacey Mosley]

Talking about. Gang.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Gang. That's what I think that means.

[Lacey Mosley]

Who could intimidate betters who lost and didn't pay up. So I actually thought that Odogg was gonna be breaking the legs, but he's got Cobra for that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Sure.

[Lacey Mosley]

And if you tell me Cobra, like that name always scares me. The health insurance is really expensive. That scares me. That cobra. A snake Cobra scares me.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Name another Cobra.

[Lacey Mosley]

The third cobra is. Wait, wait, give me a fourth cobra.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Fourth cobra. Isn't there a malt liquor named Cobra too or something? Ah, damn, there probably is. That shit's probably so nasty and scary.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's scary. Drink Cobra if you want to die tonight.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dude, you're so right.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Cobra's scary all the way.

[Lacey Mosley]

One of Owens most lucrative clients was a prominent member of a Mexican cartel who was regularly losing $100,000 a until finally he hit a five leg parlay and won $220,000. And like, parlays are hard because it's like you have to bet a lot of specific things and they all have to happen in that one game for you to win. So like, you could say, like, oh, Katie is going to leave in the first half and they're not on the same team, which I know, whatever sports. But then LeBron's going to score exactly 46 points and you know, somebody going trip and fall at the third half, like, you put all these things together and you hit the parlay, pays the biggest. Cause it's like so hard to make that bet.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Lacey Mosley]

So, you know, we got the Mexican cartel guy. He been losing 100k a week. He finally, he upped 220k. Owen paid up quickly, which the cartel boss appreciated. Okay. I feel like cartel bosses love it when you pay them their money on time.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

[Lacey Mosley]

I think that's a staple of the cartel.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, I think so.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. They don't like net 90s, net 45s, net 30s. No, you need to pay. So the boss sent Owen an encrypted floor phone, basically a phantom BlackBerry with untraceable communication. The boss asked Owen to pick up a package of $1 million in Brownsville, Texas. I ain't know they got a million going through Brownsville, Texas. Chad, let me get back to Texas.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, what can you do?

[Lacey Mosley]

I can, right? I could go to usps. I could definitely do that. So he asked him to pick up this package of a million dollars in exchange for $100,000. So he gets a little cut of the million if he picks it up. Owen flew to Texas with Tank, naturally, to pick up a duffel bag full of money from a gardener. And that's how Owen started working for the cartel. Oh, and look at that. Look at Tank and him, like, and they.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Is that the duffel bag on their shoulder?

[Lacey Mosley]

Right. They look so whimsical. They look so tan. Like, Tank Looks so tan.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, look at them. They're thriving currently.

[Lacey Mosley]

Tank's starting to look like the singer. Tank there, the black one. Like, how tan did you get?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Who's the singer? Tank.

[Lacey Mosley]

You heard of Tank?

[Kimia Benpornia]

You know, I don't know music.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, that's true. People know. We'll put a picture of Tank in there for the references for Kimia. Those like Kimi. And I'll look it up. I'll look it up. So putting the cartel before the horse. That's Tank.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, that does look like Tank.

[Lacey Mosley]

Right?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Well, look at that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Tank and Tank.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Maybe because they're both just not smiling or something.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, Tank's way better looking. I'm not gonna do like that Tank.

[Kimia Benpornia]

But no, definitely not.

[Lacey Mosley]

But he's also Tank, our enforcer. Tank is wearing the man makeup top, so that's what's giving it. So Owen trafficked cocaine, meth, ecstasy, and Heroin in the U.S. mexico, Canada, and Australia while still running his illegal offshore betting business. Okay, you are a busy man, Owen. Owen, you are. Aren't you tired?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I was just thinking that this guy's just been running and running.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like, if Owen's got a girlfriend or a boyfriend or, you know, just a part partner in general. He comes home from crime every day like, babe, just. Just put the dinner on and let me watch some sports. I need to decompress. Like, you got too much crime going on.

[Kimia Benpornia]

There's a lot going on.

[Lacey Mosley]

When do you sleep?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know.

[Lacey Mosley]

Australia was where he ran into a problem, though. The cartel boss, who he never named, asked if he knew anyone in Australia. Owen didn't. So he got himself an apartment in Sydney and moved down there. He said, let me go. Move. Let me go.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Now he's really doing whatever for this cartel guy. Hell, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Well, I mean, when you get involved with a cartel guy, I feel like you kinda gotta. Yeah, I feel like it's kind of one of those jobs for life. Yeah, like, termination is the termination of your life.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, like, you don't meet with hr. You meet with the Lord. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, okay, that's fair, because you're on boarding paperwork and you're off the boat. Boarding paperwork.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Mm. So his apartment became the shipping destination for DHL packages full of cocaine. He had no problem selling it, and Australian prices for cocaine are three times higher than in the US Due to how hard it is to get it in the country. But his apartment was, like, filled with millions of dollars in cash, and he couldn't figure out how to get it back to the cartel. So he was selling it over to the Aussies, obviously. Like, cocaine is like, you can drive to get cocaine. Cocaine in the States.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

But in Australia.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't know any of this. I'm following you.

[Lacey Mosley]

You know, Obviously. Kimmy, remember when we drove to Tijuana?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yes. Movie. And we got ourselves some cocaine and.

[Lacey Mosley]

We came back and the butt roids and. Yeah, we came back.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So now he's got all this cash, though. How does he get it back?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't know. He's gotta, like, buy something. He's gotta launder it. Am I close?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you're close. So he couldn't get on a plane with a suitcase full of cash. Right. And he couldn't open a bank account because they would need his passport. And then once they have your pass. I know this for a fact from changing over money. Once you get to a certain amount of money, you cannot change over anymore. You can go to any exchange center in the city, in the country, and they will run your passport and be like, oh, we've given you enough cash. We're not giving you anymore.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he's in it. He's kind of in a. Like, a little. Like, he's got a problem right now. Right? How is he gonna move this money back? So he tried hiding the money in gold bullion in the soles of hollowed out Ugg boots, one of Australia's biggest exports, and them to Mexico. But it wasn't going fast enough because how much gold can you get into Ugg boot? Ugg boot is an light shoe.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, you really can't do much. Why don't you pick a Doc Marten? Because they're not an Australia thing.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, yeah, that's probably why. Because I'm like, yeah, you're right. Like, Uggs are just too light.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Right?

[Lacey Mosley]

If I pick up a Ugg and it's like. Like I know something, something is wrong. It's supposed to be a cloud. That's like the whole part of. Yeah, but sure. So he ended up contacting a professional gambler and a weird media personality. Robin. Nobody has a real name here. That's how we know y' all all do crime.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's right.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is Robin hood. Vegas. It's Robinhood 702.

[Kimia Benpornia]

And gambler, activist, philanthropist. Okay, Robin Hood. Okay, so what, he's taking money. He's doing scams and giving to the people who need money. I kind of like this guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

In his bio, it says, I try every day to change the world for the better.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Good for him. With crime947followers. He's not really getting.

[Lacey Mosley]

He doesn't need too much mini. He doesn't need to be out there too much because then they're going to catch him.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Sure. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love that he like, he's the 702nd Robin Hood. Like. Or is that like his area code maybe?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, is that the Vegas area code? I wouldn't know. Maybe that's what's up.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

You are from.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, I'm not. My parents just moved there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Okay. No allegiance.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I guess now they live there, but that's it.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

There it is.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You nailed that, Lacy. Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

Listen, I love a crap table. So he. I just remember from all the ads in Vegas, like that'll be like, call me now. Hot girls and they like drive by in these huge trucks and it's always that area code. I don't call them.

[Kimia Benpornia]

But you got a good memory. I remember. Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

So he ended up calling this guy, right? And this guy claims Robinhood702 to steal from the rich and give to the poor by winning money from casinos and giving away to people in need. He had a website where people could submit their personal stories for why he should help them. Robin Hood wore a mask and tried to hide his identity. But his real name was RJ Cipriani. Also love that name.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I like this guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

I like this guy. Also. What a great way to money launder. I just say you gave it away to all these stories.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, you think he's keeping it?

[Lacey Mosley]

He might be giving it to him, but then also like being like, I think like giving it to him twice or four times. Like who's, who's. Who's gonna know? I don't know. Let's see.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He sounds noble to me.

[Lacey Mosley]

He does. No, I still think that's noble. As long as the people get the coins. Okay, so Owen thought he could use this high stakes gambler to yes. Lond the money out of Australia. Over two days, Owen staked RJ with 4 million at a blackjack table at the Sydney Star casino. On the first night, Cipriani won $300,000 on a bankroll of 1.5 million. With 1.8 million, Cipriani received a casino check from the Star that he brought back to the US to cash at a sister property. So the second time he got, you know, like with 1.8 million, he turned that into a check that he could bring back to the States and then cash at another chain that was in America.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I see.

[Lacey Mosley]

So this is how the laundering is working.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Laundering never makes sense to Me, so I'm so confused on this part. But that's okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's like you have to turn your money into some because it's crime money. So you're going to lose a little money on laundering, and that's fine. But it's like you have to show the government where you got the money from. You just start getting a lot of money. The Uncle Sam going to start getting nosy. He like, where you getting all that money from? Young blood. Yeah. And then so you have to be like, it's for my laundromat. It's all these coins. That's why I'm making millions. There was a bunch of restaurants. People were talking about these restaurants in New York City that would pop up and like, be there. Like they were storefronts that would pop up overnight and be there for like maybe a few months. And then they would shut down. And everybody was like, those weren't actual restaurants. They were fronts. And then there's a notorious front in New York City. I can't remember what it is, but I don't want to. But the food that they were making got so popular that they had to just keep the business.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, that's kind of fun.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're like, we're here to launder money. And everybody's like, delicious. Give me another one of them.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Like, yeah, I love that.

[Lacey Mosley]

I love it. So on the next evening, Owen gave Cipriani $2.5 million to do it again. Run it back. This time though, RJ lost it all. He says it was on purpose because he was working with the feds, but Owen says he's just a bad gambler. I'm gonna agree with Owen on this one because if I give you 1.5 and you roll back with 300k, what was you doing with the money?

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's true. I was already disappointed in RJ because he was such a good guy. And then he got involved with O Dog.

[Lacey Mosley]

I mean, I mean, what if RJ is giving some O Dog money to the families?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't know that he is.

[Lacey Mosley]

We'll never know. We'll never know.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Fine, I'll keep up hope.

[Lacey Mosley]

In any case, Owen made it out of Australia that time, but a years long federal case against him ended when he was arrested by undercover agents on a golf course in 2015. So that's the thing about, like the feds is they will. They're just like Target. Target?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, like target.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, they let you hit the same.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, a certain number.

[Lacey Mosley]

Like they're gonna research you. Not this. This Is a meme.

[Kimia Benpornia]

What is this? What's happening?

[Lacey Mosley]

He's like, I see you. That was the fizz. Looking at him like I see.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang. Where is. He's under a pier.

[Lacey Mosley]

Is he under a beer?

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's kind of what it looks like from the background. I don't know.

[Lacey Mosley]

I've only seen under the piers. Went in like Jersey or Bob's Burgers.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, Bob's Burgers. I love that episode.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're gonna murder them. It's so good. I love Bob's Burgers. Y' all know that. Well, I will say I feel like this was a pretty good scam. But I am upset that Owen wasn't being more careful. Because like I said, Target's just like the feds. Like, the feds will build the case on you for many, many, many years. So you're thinking you're getting away with it, but they're just stacking up enough evidence so that they know when they throw that book at you, it's gonna hit. Okay. It's gonna be reading Rainbow. You going to jail. Like Target. Do the same shit like y', all. If you stealing from Target.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Careful.

[Lacey Mosley]

Don't do that.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Don't do that.

[Lacey Mosley]

But if you do, don't hit the same spot more than once or twice. Because I think it's $2,500.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I thought it was a thousand.

[Lacey Mosley]

What is. What's the number you gotta hit before they'll march your ass out of there? And you know what's fucked up, too, that they like to do with, like the loss prevention is They'll. They'll get your ass on a Friday. Like, they try to wait till you come in on a Friday. So if you go to on a.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Friday, oh, you're over. You're overnighted, you're over weekended.

[Lacey Mosley]

Dang, you gotta avoid those Friday bookings. How do you feel about this scam? How do you feel about Owen?

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't know. I went in with hate. And I'm just sort of bummed. Cause it is sort of like, did.

[Lacey Mosley]

It raise up from hate to like, more love?

[Kimia Benpornia]

And I guess I got more empathy. But that was always gonna happen. We go through their whole story. I mean, I don't think that divorce is real trauma, but I do think that it's like a guy who was just beefy and good at sports and then left with no other resources.

[Lacey Mosley]

He needed an excuse to do crime. He was. But you know what, though I will say he did have trauma, though, because he had to live. He was roommates with A stranger in a bunk bed.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He had to get kidding.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sleeping with a Wilson volleyball, that's giving trauma.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's true.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's not just like, oh, we have to live in separate houses. And like, we tried to parent trap them. No, this is like, he's like, cuddling up to a Wilson Ball at night.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's such a bummer, because if the market hadn't crashed, he could have just done real estate for into infinity. Huh? No, he tried to always done this. Huh?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, so we got it up here. The felony thresholds, they're different for different states. So In Wisconsin, it's 2500. Damn. Okay, Wisconsin, y' all got it popping out there. Florida is 750, which shocks me.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

And Cali. What is it? 950. Okay, that's not bad, Cali. We giving good wages. We're giving good wages. Florida don't want to pay nobody. That's why they 750. But Wisconsin. What y' all talking about?

[Kimia Benpornia]

It did Texas and Wisconsin. So at least you get go back home.

[Lacey Mosley]

Everything takes.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You see what you're in Texas.

[Lacey Mosley]

See what I can do. Target sponsor the show.

[Kimia Benpornia]

After this.

[Lacey Mosley]

Wait, we're not supposed to shop there, right? Oh, right. We're not supposed to shop there, guys.

[Kimia Benpornia]

No, just steal from there.

[Lacey Mosley]

Just sponsor the show, though, you know, I'm not gonna buy stuff from there. You give me money.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, that's right. Reparations to you from Target.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's what they do every holiday day.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, dang. Oh, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know if we're gonna get it anymore, though. They're like, all right, you deis, we're done with you too, then. We're not doing black people February anymore.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

So now he pleaded guilty, Owen. To racketeering, conspiracy, and conspiracy to distribute drugs, and was sentenced to 21 years in prison, plus a lifetime supervised release. So even when he got out of jail, they said, you keep doing so much crime that we will surveil you forever.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Cuz he did do what he had the. The booking.

[Kimia Benpornia]

The cartel guy.

[Lacey Mosley]

The cartel? The. The money smuggling. Yeah, the money laundering. The USC fake doctor.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Booty Roy smuggler.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That was private. That was just kind of just for him, you know? I don't think that's on the record.

[Lacey Mosley]

That was for funsies. That was just for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his car. You said his cartel. And baba. So he is a serial criminal. Like, they need to keep him up in the jail. So he was also ordered to pay back $5 million, which included $100,000 in gold and silver coins. A Porsche Panorama, two Range Rovers, luxury watches, homes in Costa Rica, Peru, Cabo San Lucas, and a sailboat. He was living good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, he was.

[Lacey Mosley]

He was released from federal prison in 2024, serving less than seven years of his 21 year sentence. Who he snitch on?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Dang.

[Lacey Mosley]

Sometimes if you get out of jail too early, the cartel be like, who you talking to? Because you need to be in the jail.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He might get caught soon.

[Lacey Mosley]

So the motion for his sentence reduction was filed under a seal. All we know is that there were extraordinary and compelling reasons. He done gave up where the money's at. Oh, he done gave something up. Told him he better watch out for that car. That cartel, man. Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, geez.

[Lacey Mosley]

So Owen is now 43 and on parole. He earns $500 every two weeks selling the iced protein bars he first learned to make in prison mop buckets. Oh, now you got out of prison and started making that jail talk food. Come on.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I love jail talk.

[Lacey Mosley]

They're so creative.

[Kimia Benpornia]

But, yeah. Ice protein. What's in it?

[Lacey Mosley]

Isn't that just like a creamsicle?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah, but I want to know what's in it.

[Lacey Mosley]

But calling it ice protein is really doing something.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

Something for me.

[Lacey Mosley]

That's great branding. And look, he's got, like, a hot lady with it, like, right? So if you want to stay skinny, but have a ice cream at the beach. Ice protein, huh?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Protein I could stuff always taste bad, though.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, but if you starve yourself from sugar for long enough, it spins the block and tastes kind of good.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I don't think so. I don't think so. $500 every two weeks. That's not awesome.

[Lacey Mosley]

No. He's struggling now. But you know what? When he had the life, he's had that life. So he at least got to enjoy it for many, many years. You know what I mean? Like into his, like, 30s. So he. He had enough rich.

[Kimia Benpornia]

That's fine. Yeah, yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

It's kind of like the reverse. Like rags to riches.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He's riches to rags.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

He went riches to rags. We kind of went rags to riches to rags.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. I think that one kind of hurts more.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It does.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it does.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

Because if it was always rags, you never knew about the riches for referrals.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Totally.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, well.

[Lacey Mosley]

So California ice protein frozen bar on a stick. Include flavors such as strawberry swole cake and coliseum cookies and cream.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, USC pride.

[Lacey Mosley]

Pride.

[Kimia Benpornia]

USC pride so much.

[Lacey Mosley]

USC pride.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Coliseum.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look, he got his little paleta truck out there. I'm not mad at it. It's very much influenced by Mexican culture. Like, that is the Paleta, man. Yeah, it is the protein Paleta man. I love it.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Well, Owen, is he in California? Can we go see this guy? Is he, like, walking down Venice?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, look that. It does look like he's in Venice.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He is. Okay.

[Lacey Mosley]

I might have to go see him and meet up and chat. I want to.

[Kimia Benpornia]

What are you gonna do? What are you gonna say to this guy?

[Lacey Mosley]

I don't know. I'll just be doing anything.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I know that.

[Lacey Mosley]

Be careful. Oh, my goodness. Well, Owen, you gave me a great time. You were a very busy man. You work very hard in crime. I wish we could get you a job like in crime, where you could just. Well, not in crime, but, like, legal. But what? I don't know. But, like, high paying and, like, where he works.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's okay. He's probably really happy with these protein ices.

[Lacey Mosley]

He does look very fucking happy. He does. He looks like the kind of guy who would talk your head off. Like, he talks to strangers. He gives everyone directions.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You know what? What if we see him on Shark Tank, like, next season?

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Kimia Benpornia]

With these protein ices. He's on his way. He's got a documentary.

[Lacey Mosley]

He's gonna be there and he's got a great story.

[Kimia Benpornia]

He does. I can't wait. He's gonna be like, I made these in prison. And now on Venice Beach.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, you're right. You just manifested something for him.

[Kimia Benpornia]

I did.

[Lacey Mosley]

Look at that. Yeah. Yeah. You go. You go, o dog.

[Kimia Benpornia]

You go, o dog.

[Lacey Mosley]

Oh, dog. Okay, the last one sounds like you, like, fell and heard something. You're like, ow.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Sorry.

[Lacey Mosley]

No, I loved it. Like, oh, my back. Camille, we always ask at the end of the show, where would you like to be found?

[Kimia Benpornia]

Oh, you can find me on Instagram, Ray. Oh, I love. That's kind of it.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, the best kind of it. Yeah, you're the best. I would get in the sewer for you.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Hey. Hell yeah.

[Lacey Mosley]

I feel like it'd be really fun down there.

[Kimia Benpornia]

In my sewers?

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, in your sewer.

[Kimia Benpornia]

It's gross, but it's fun.

[Lacey Mosley]

But it's fun. As always, y'.

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[Lacey Mosley]

You can see all of these. You really gotta see these photos on the Instagram scam. Got his pod on Instagram. And if you want to follow me. D I V A L A C I D V Lacey on all platforms and congregation, y' all better pull up to these damn tour dates. Y' all demanded these cities and I better see X asses in seeds. The Scam Goddess live tour starts in the spring and that pre sale code is Goddess. So get into it. Y' all can get my book anywhere. Books are sold. Watch Going Dutch right now on Hulu. The first two seasons, get into it. It's very fun. The second season is my favorite. We're having a fucking great time.

[Kimia Benpornia]

Can't wait to watch.

[Lacey Mosley]

Yeah, it's. It's so fun. And then watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. I don't know. Keep running that up. Why not? And congregation. I want y' all to the get of out there and stay. Oh, Dogging Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Moseley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Karen Kate Doyle. Stay scheming. We've been trying to conceive for a while, but my cycles are so irregular. My doctor doesn't listen, period. App doesn't help. We missed way too many chances and I'm not guessing my way through 2026. So I got Mira. Mira tracks four key hormones with the same tech fertility labs use, but from home, it found my ovulation in minutes. Now I get clarity every morning and I intend to keep it that. And hey, for a very limited time, you can get an exclusive 25% off using code [e-mail] hi, I'm Kaitlin Coleman.

[Kaitlin Coleman]

Winner of Target's HBCU Design Challenge. This challenge moved me closer to my dream of becoming a fashion designer. Through mentorship and support, you can find my design, along with creations from other black founders in Target's Black History Month collection.