TV Anchor turns PPP Mafiosa w/ Mandii B & Weezy WTF

Summary

Scam Goddess Podcast Summary

Episode: "TV Anchor turns PPP Mafiosa w/ Mandii B & Weezy WTF"

Release Date: September 30, 2025

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Episode Overview

This riotously funny episode of Scam Goddess, hosted by Laci Mosley, features guests Mandii B and Weezy WTF (hosts of the "Decisions Decisions" podcast and New York Times bestselling authors). Together, they deep-dive into the fraudulent exploits of Stephanie Hockridge, a Phoenix TV news anchor turned multi-million dollar PPP loan scammer during the COVID-19 pandemic. The episode blends sharp scam analysis, personal fraud stories, hilarious side commentary, and sharp jabs at white-collar criminality.

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Key Discussion Points and Segments

Introductions and Getting to Know the Guests

• [01:39 – 06:26]
  • Laci introduces Mandii B and Weezy WTF as podcasters and authors of “No Holes Barred.”
  • Guests riff on keeping ex-husbands’ rich-sounding last names, flexing social clout, and family connections (Mandy’s anecdote about her mother’s ex and the Dreyfus name for its bougie appeal).
  • First laughs about famous families, the art of "the scam" in marrying into money, and passing on legacy names:

    “That’s a scam bitch. And okay, listen, she a Harvey.” — Laci, on Lori Harvey (04:18)

Scam “Confessions”—Personal Schemes and Side Hustles

• [06:46 – 14:46]
  • Mandii shares tales of an emotional scam from her early 20s—faking a pregnancy to get money and faking an abortion to get a vacation from work:

    “I just faked a pregnancy and had a fake abortion.” — Mandii B (10:44)

  • Weezy, a self-proclaimed non-scammer, admits to loving true white collar crime stories and once running a “robbery” when she was stranded after being flown out by a guy:

    “He never came back... So I stole every electronic in the room.” — Weezy (19:01)

  • Side stories of guests' side hustles and creative small-dollar “community banking” (Mandii’s overdraft/club hustle).
  • Hilarious discussion about multi-level marketing scams, the “giving circles” craze, and when “seed investments” go sideways.

Famous and Celebrity Scam Anecdotes

• [24:15 – 29:19]
  • Mandii tells about a stolen stash of hotel luxury lotions at a Jay Z afterparty—culminating in a meet-cute with Rihanna and ASAP Rocky, who revealed they also swipe hotel amenities:

    “He grabs the cordless phone from the fucking bed... walks out with it.” — Mandii, on ASAP Rocky (26:03)

  • The segment underlines how “theft brings people together... Except for your belongings!”

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Main Scam: The PPP Mafiosa, Stephanie Hockridge

Historic Hoodwinks Segment

• [32:19 – 79:40]
  The deep dive on the main scam of the week:

Background and How It Started

• Stephanie Hockridge, a former Arizona news anchor known for her forgettable “copy-pasta” face, abruptly leaves her anchor job in 2020 and, with her husband Nathan Reese, forms the fintech company Blue Acorn in Scottsdale, AZ, just as COVID relief funds start rolling.
• Stephanie's profile as “Pilates Mom” and almost invisible white-collar status is riffed on at length.

The Sexy, Scammy Details

• Blue Acorn processes an astounding $12.5 billion in PPP loans—more than JPMorgan and Bank of America combined.

  “That’s with a B. With a B. Oh, there it is, $12.5 billion.” — Laci (48:32)

• Mandii and Weezy marvel at the audacity and scale, with jokes about knowing when to quit ("I would've stopped at a good 10 [million].”) (49:05)
• The biz model:
  • Blue Acorn helped people create entirely fake companies, faked supporting docs (payroll, tax records), and charged “success fees”/kickbacks.
  • “VIPP” (VIP PPP) clients with larger loans could skip most checks for an even bigger cut.

Institutional Blindness & Social Commentary

• Fintech "no due diligence" led to comically fake farm businesses—Florida potato farms, Minnesota orange groves...

  “My favorite oranges is the Minnesota.” — Mandy B, deadpan (44:52)

• Rant about how wealthy people and celebrities had massive PPP debts forgiven while small fries did prison time:

  “They wiped out all these millionaires’ debts. Chloe can pay! She got all that jean money.” — Laci (46:06)

Stephanie and Nathan's Personal Grift

• They took out multi-six-figure PPP loans for “companies with no employees.”
• Borrowers were charged up to 10% kickbacks.
• Staff were told:

  “Prioritize speed over accuracy. Ignore red flags. Skip identity checks unless fraud is extremely obvious.” (52:14)

• Forged documents included “black and veteran status” for Nathan, to qualify for minority and veteran set-asides.

  “On one application, Nate claimed that he was a veteran and Black.” — Laci (62:33) “You know why he did that? He says right now, Black Lives Matter.” — Weezy (62:45)

• Stephanie even coached her parents to make up “side gigs” to qualify for their own PPP loans—her dad netted $500.

The Downfall & Flight

• With federal attention ramping up, the couple flees to Puerto Rico for the tax break (“no capital gains”) and is photographed flaunting cash in a luxury condo—but with what the hosts call “strippers’ money” (faded $20s and $100s).
• They later attempt new “consultancies” from their luxury digs, as the DOJ closes in.

Trial & Reflection

• Stephanie is convicted on a single count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud; Nathan’s trial is pending.
• Reflections on the hubris of white-collar crime, American legal double standards, and why relentless greed is always the downfall.

  “Once you have money, nothing matters.” — Weezy (78:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Crime Mindset in America:

“If you do the crime, do not do the time, damn it. … Once you have money, nothing matters.” — Weezy (78:32–78:58)

On Small-Time PPP Fraudsters Going to Jail:

“If you was Lil from Pretty Ricky Blue—baby, they coming for that ass.” — Laci (39:54)

On the Couple's Run to Puerto Rico:

“Leave ustados unidos. … They didn’t tell y’all we colonized that. You got to go a little further.” — Laci (72:24)

On Making Fake Loan Docs:

“She blamed, like, this not getting done on her man. She was like, my man’s is not good at Photoshop.” — Laci (60:48)

On the Forgettable Face of a Scammer:

“You could literally rob me at gunpoint, broad daylight in the park, and I would not know who she is.” — Laci (38:04)

Mandii’s Mom Passing a Scam Test:

“She was about to get you that loan, bitch.” — Laci, after a prank “income verification” call (68:30)

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Other Highlight Segments

Personal Stories and Sidebars

• Hilarious pranks and borrowing hustle via fake “income verification” with Mandii B’s mother (65:41 – 69:17).
• Side rants about PAYDAY loans, health insurance/ambulance scams, and nightly observations about the New York City affordable housing “lottery.”
• AI and the new generation of scam “influencers” and mukbangs.

Audience Engagement

• The show plugs the new Scam Goddess TV series and the guests’ books, encourages subscribing, streaming, and supporting “Congregation” scams by running the pod on kids’ iPads to pump the numbers (“We’re orchestrating one up them number, but yes, we scamming over here.” — Laci, 84:42).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intros & Family/Name Jokes: 01:39 – 06:26
• Confessions & Scam Stories: 06:46 – 14:46
• Weezy’s Robbery as Revenge: 17:33 – 24:01
• Celebrity Hotel Theft & Rih/ASAP: 24:15 – 29:19
• Main Scam Recap Begins: 32:19
• COVID PPP Fraud Deep Dive: 44:51 – 79:40
• Mandii’s Mom Scam Prank: 65:41 – 69:17
• Outros & Plugs: 80:01 – end

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Tone & Language

The tone is irreverent, quick-witted, and deeply rooted in Black pop culture, reality TV, and scam lore. The hosts and guests take joy in the comedy of crime—especially when it exposes larger issues of economic inequality and double standards—while keeping it lighthearted and engaging throughout.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a rollicking ride through the world of pandemic scams, the thin line between “entrepreneur” and “fraudster,” and the unintentional hilarity of upper-middle-class white-collar criminals who mistakenly believe they’re invisible. It serves both as a cautionary tale and as pure comedic entertainment—a perfect example of why Scam Goddess has such a passionate “Con-gregation” following.

As Laci always says: Stay schemin’!

Transcript

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Weezy]

Hurry.

[Lacy Mosley]

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[Weezy]

It's your girl.

[Lacy Mosley]

Lacy Mosley, AKA Scam God is back with another. Did I say that right? AKA Scam God is back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will find out along the way. And if you are not new to church, go ahead and say amen because.

[Mandy B]

You know, I'm very. What? Amen?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, exactly. Excited, thrilled, elated to have two guests today. Two multi hyphenate queens who host the podcast Decisions Decisions. The show where they examine the world of non traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating and sex. But guess what? Okay, guess what? They're not just podcast hosts. Okay, wait a minute.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

They're also New York Times best selling authoresses. Please, Rich, put me some Jamaican air horns right there. And y' all better go buy their phenomenal new book, no Holes Barred Why'd you laugh? Always makes me laugh.

[Mandy B]

That's right.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was trying to make sure I didn't laugh.

[Mandy B]

She said holes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, no holes barred. A dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. Congregation, wherever you are. Now get up out of your seat. If you drive and put your foot on the gas, but then still lift your booty up off of the seat a little bit and hold onto the steering wheel. Okay? I need you to have your ass as out your chairs. Please make some noise for Weezy. Wtf? And Mandy B ay.

[Weezy]

I loved that. That was great.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy B]

I don't even know who wrote that.

[Lacy Mosley]

I need to see how it's timed. Oh, that's Jess.

[Mandy B]

I love to be high. Finish.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. And you are.

[Mandy B]

That's what I'll say when I have my fourth husband. I'm multi hyphenated.

[Lacy Mosley]

You're gonna keep all the names as you get married.

[Mandy B]

Listen, my homegirl, while with her husband, be saying, you know, my second husband ain't never gonna do this. And I'm like, bitch, this is so crazy. Oh, yeah, I'm totally gonna keep all the husbands. My mom, so she had a husband before my father, and that husband's last name is Dreyfus. Okay? She kept it. And I'm like, why would you keep that? She's like, does it sound rich?

[Lacy Mosley]

It does sound rich. I immediately thought of Julia Dreyfus and she's rich as him.

[Weezy]

That's the same. Before acting, I'm like an adopted child of the Sanders family.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, y' all got some scamming ass.

[Weezy]

Laughs Deion Sanders is prime, okay? And his ex wife's. No, no, no, no, no. The Carolyn first one, the cool one. She still keeps Sanders as well. And even though she's been with other men since, she is a Sanders hun.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay?

[Weezy]

I mean, I think it's what we've seen happen with even Harvey. Steve Harvey. Yeah, Lori ain't even a Harvey.

[Lacy Mosley]

But she.

[Mandy B]

But she took the name.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's a scam bitch. And okay, listen, she a Harvey.

[Weezy]

No, she's not.

[Lacy Mosley]

That ain't her daddy. Technically not.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, but that's her. She probably adopted her.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, no, he did. She had the mom. The mom who is a very intelligent lady of.

[Mandy B]

Marjorie, baby, hold on.

[Weezy]

No, no, no, no. Miss, if y' all have not done an episode on Steve Harvey's wife, that woman dated a drug dealer named Marjorie. Marjorie, baby, Marjorie Harvey. So the first boyfriend, husband, whatever, he got locked up and she wanted to keep the money, so. So she went and started Dating the brother or cousin?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, it was a brother or the cousin. But it was related. But it was related.

[Weezy]

And she started dating a family member.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then him married him too. Yep.

[Weezy]

Crazy.

[Mandy B]

Didn't. Which one of Joe Biden's kids fucked in the dead brother's brother?

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, I think one of them did. The wife of the dead brother.

[Weezy]

Uh huh.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Sometimes you just gotta keep it in the family.

[Mandy B]

Now wait, what's crazy about that? So in Nigerian culture, they basically, if your brother dies, you then take on the family. So it's not that crazy. Now you maybe take on the family as far as financially, but oh no, if you start fucking his wife, so what? Nah. Now keep it above fuck my wife while I'm gone and at least be the uncle that my kids always knew. Or she gets some new nigga that I don't trust. Now I'm dead. But still.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, no, this is a scam. Is it a scam? It's a whole scam to marry someone else in the family after the one that you married.

[Mandy B]

But you gotta be dead dead.

[Lacy Mosley]

Not like, like versus like medium dead.

[Mandy B]

Cause like Marjorie.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, you mean like. Okay, yeah, coma is like they could pop back out. Pop out. And then you're.

[Weezy]

I mean, Mary Crosby too, on Housewives of Salt Lake City. She married her. Her mom's husband or grandma's husband. She's now dating her. Her married granddaddy.

[Mandy B]

I need to get into Bravo.

[Weezy]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B]

It's good.

[Weezy]

I didn't know they were doing all that. You ready? And they run a church, a congregation.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, okay, listen, baby, we don't, we don't encourage you to marry your, your, your relatives over here.

[Weezy]

Only if they're rich.

[Lacy Mosley]

Keep it in the family.

[Mandy B]

Maybe in the family.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, then y' all gotta be like the Anastasias and the, the Zsa Jazz, right? Exactly. The Zaja. Zaja is definitely fucking. They cousins. Yeah. Like, yeah, that's how you keep the wealth and family. It makes sense to me. So we always ask on this podcast, what is your relationship with scams? And we Z update scammers.

[Weezy]

It was when. When I got share my own scam story. It was very hard.

[Mandy B]

It was very hard. I didn't have one either.

[Lacy Mosley]

The only reason, I mean, I have one that I. Y' all most seem very like. I mean, obviously you're quite savvy, but you know what I mean.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, no, I take these niggas money in their face.

[Weezy]

Yeah, I don't like scammers, drug dealers, any of it. However, one of my Favorite pastimes that I do in my spare time. One of my favorite shows of all time is american greed. So I do enjoy seeing how people get away Specifically with white collar crimes. I'm not interested in drugs. Drug selling and dealing. That's not very interesting. But white collar crime and seeing how they get away with that shit.

[Lacy Mosley]

A little embezzlement. Yes, like a little embezzlement.

[Weezy]

You feel me? And then when I thought of. And then when I thought of scams, I was like, well, this is a podcast. A really fucking big and popular one. I said, it's not fun to talk about the scam. That is Mary kay. That is herbalife. That is wish you were here. I forgot what that was. You know what I mean? You remember where they held up the blue sun Everywhere. Wish you were here. It was like a travel group, travel club. And as you kept going, were they going? They were traveling. They were traveling.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, you would put in money to go with the group everywhere. And it was like they were branded. And it was like young people.

[Weezy]

Oh, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was a part of. And that's the other thing with herbalife. It was like good looking young people. They'd be on yachts and stuff. Like, wish you were here. They're in the beautiful Bermuda triangle and shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Not the bermuda triangle.

[Weezy]

And that's the thing.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love the bermuda triangle.

[Weezy]

I think the ponzi hurd kippers. Listen, let me see. Look the way I'm looking up. Wish you were here. Ponzi. Oh, worldventures.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

So I'm not gonna hold you Even when bitches be like. They reached out to Mandy and I too, to do a travel thing. I forgot what city it was. But like, I always thought those were scams because at the end of the day, the travel agencies are creating a larger price to do all the work to put something together. Yeah, Herbalife still gave you smoothies and powders and shit.

[Weezy]

Yeah, sure.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mary Kay still give you products because that's an mlm. That's why it's legal. It's technically legal. It is a ponzi scheme. They do want you to just sign other people up for the program.

[Mandy B]

I had some n try to get me on a facebook cash app me. I cash app you this.

[Lacy Mosley]

You remember those? Oh, yes, those. The money circles. There was. They would have, like, the. What they. What would they call it? It was like the money tree. The giving circles.

[Mandy B]

The giving circles, yes. That's the one.

[Lacy Mosley]

All I want to know, one of the witchy woo Woo. Girls. Put something spiritual into it. Let me think about that.

[Weezy]

There's one guy being outed right now. I forgot his name, but he did some shit where a lot of people fell for it. For $10,000, that's your seed investment, I can make you $20,000 to $30,000 a month. Bro, the fact that people even believe that shit. You should get got for your $10,000.

[Lacy Mosley]

Anytime somebody says seed, I just.

[Mandy B]

I don't know.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's not going to grow. It's not growing on me.

[Mandy B]

Well, I'll tell you a seed that also didn't grow for my scam. I had to think back. And it's funny because Mandy knew this would be the one that I brought up. But when I was 20 or 21, I needed some extra money. I don't remember. I think it was this one. Drug dealer. Never did scammers. Only did trap niggas. Because I'm. I'm not about to. You're not about to take some money from an old lady, you gotta sell drugs.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, no, no.

[Mandy B]

That's the real honest way.

[Lacy Mosley]

Street pharmacist.

[Mandy B]

I appreciate like trappers. Like, honestly, trapping ain't dead, which is why I don't buy weed from these fucking stores.

[Lacy Mosley]

But anyway, so I love that you're keeping the street pharmacist employed.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I'm all about Brown from Florida. I literally own a business called Trap House. It's a gym with trapping house music.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh my God, my cousin works for you.

[Mandy B]

Who?

[Lacy Mosley]

Eric Mosley.

[Mandy B]

Eric is your cousin?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. He's like the cousins. Is like my best friend.

[Mandy B]

Are you kidding me?

[Lacy Mosley]

No.

[Weezy]

Oh my God, it is such a small world.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh my God, I love Eric.

[Mandy B]

He's our. So sorry. No.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. You know, you're good.

[Mandy B]

You can tell he's our favorite. Favorite. Just kidding. But anyway, like, no, he is the one. Okay. So. Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, we'll talk.

[Mandy B]

So love trap sheet. Yeah. So how I trapped scammed this guy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Basically.

[Mandy B]

I needed $500 and I knew he didn't want to be with me or have a baby with me. So I just faked a pregnancy and had a fake abortion. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now, did you have some pregnant pee? Did you did it? Did you give him the 12 blue stick?

[Mandy B]

No, because who wants you to prove it when you're ready to have the abortion and they don't want to be with you? Okay, you just got to do the sob story. But the most recent scam, and by recent, I mean this was seven years ago when we started the show. No, no, no, sorry. We started our show eight or nine years ago, but it was right in the beginning of the podcast. So I started fucking with this European dude. Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Already a little bit of a scam. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

So he lived in New York, but then he moved on to Latvia, and I didn't want to go see him in Latvia.

[Lacy Mosley]

You didn't want to go to Latvia?

[Mandy B]

Why?

[Weezy]

Busy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Why don't you?

[Mandy B]

Nothing in Latvia. So he's like, yo, well, why don't we go on a nice trip? Have you ever been to Italy? I'm like, yeah. He's like, if you're in Venice. I'm like, okay. He's like, I'll take you to the opera. We're gonna stay at this hotel.

[Lacy Mosley]

The opera. Right.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know, that's the scam that rich people keep alive because the operas be boring as fuck. But everybody knows when you get in there and you in the box, you're just looking around at other rich people. It's just an excuse to be rich.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy B]

And they sell the little eye goggles across the way. So it's like, but I can only do it on this weekend. Okay. Now, I was out of PTO because I went when I was a young horse. I was always out just being he was outside. So I PTO was done. So I'm like, okay. My boss at the time was like, super liberal. Very, like, Trump was like, getting elected. He was like, we're fucking protesting outside. So I was like, I know one thing he gonna be down for. So I called him in the conference room and I sent him an email, like, I need to talk to you. Something really serious. Like, I can't discuss it over email. So flight was already booked. Knew I had to get out of there.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

I was like, hey, Tim, like, I need to tell you something and it's really shameful, but I'm pregnant. So he's like, okay, totally fine. Jackie's pregnant right now. We've got maternity leave here at T Mobile. We're going to have the alternate baby shower baby. That's what I was doing. We're going to be good.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was like, cake in the break room.

[Mandy B]

I don't want to keep it. Oh, and I think I'm going to need three to five days off. You take the time you need it. When do you want? When are you going to do it? I don't know. I'm actually kind of broken. The flight was the next day, and I'm surprised he didn't pick up on it. Cause, like, my Fucking hair was fresh. So I was like, I just. I'm not ready for this. I think I'm gonna do it on Friday. And then I think I'll need three days off. Saturday, Sunday, be back Tuesday. And yeah, so I couldn't post anything because I was technically having an abortion. And then I kept forgetting I had a fake abortion because that next week we had a team outing and I was ready to get lit, but I was like, damn, should I be.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, if the baby gone, it's not like the baby gonna get drunk. Cause you had it removed, not you had it removed.

[Mandy B]

I know, but I still felt like you cared to be partying. Shouldn't I be a little sad now? She's trying to keep the bit up with you.

[Lacy Mosley]

She in the corner at the party, like, no, no, no, I'm having a good time.

[Mandy B]

Mind you, it was really difficult because then I went back to my desk and I'm in a sales environment. Everybody's, you know, guys chatting shit, and I'm like, fuck, I gotta like, really keep this up and be a little bit sad. And it was tough.

[Lacy Mosley]

Did you? Yes.

[Weezy]

Right. Did you?

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't know if you did.

[Mandy B]

I had to do.

[Lacy Mosley]

Did you tell the whole office that you were having this fake abortion?

[Mandy B]

No, but I ain't gonna hold you. I did tell one I was cool with at work.

[Lacy Mosley]

Never mind, it's gone. Like, why?

[Mandy B]

I told one hoe at work and we stopped being friends. And I was so scared. I was like, this bitch, ain't she can't tell I had a fake abortion. You can't like that. I would rather you say. I'd rather you say I have herpes in the office than fucking say I had a fake abortion. That is an embarrassment.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I'd still rather fake abortion.

[Mandy B]

Well, anyway, that was my scam.

[Lacy Mosley]

That was beautiful. Also, shout out to having like, a male boss who doesn't understand black hair because a black woman boss with a clock, like, yeah, but you just got a. This is ready for vacation, right, bitch.

[Mandy B]

You know the day. And I took the day off. Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

I walked past your desk several times and I saw you on asos, so.

[Mandy B]

Well, I'll tell you guys, Venice was lovely and so is the opera.

[Lacy Mosley]

Scout. Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[Mandy B]

Jeff Bridges, Why are you still living above our garage?

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T Mobile commercial like you Teach me.

[Mandy B]

So. Dana. Oh, no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly AT T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system. Wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

Impressive. Let me try. T Mobile is the best place to.

[Commercial Announcer]

Get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[Lacy Mosley]

Nice.

[Mandy B]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Commercial Announcer]

T Mobile is the best place to get the new iPhone 17 Pro on us with eligible traded in any condition.

[Lacy Mosley]

So what are we having for launch?

[Mandy B]

Dude, my work here is done.

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[Weezy]

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[Mandy B]

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[Weezy]

Well, for mine, especially when you talk about robbery. That's what let me know how. I have scammed someone before, so.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, robberies. Robberies is included.

[Weezy]

I got one for you.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I do have my shiesty in my bag. So.

[Weezy]

This was when I was probably 19, 18, 19. I got flown out by a guy and I was in a hotel room. He flew me to Texas. He was there, ended up hanging out. It was cute, right? Like, I knew I was going there. I knew what I got flew out for.

[Mandy B]

By the way, we were friends when this story happened. I remember the story. Oh.

[Weezy]

And yeah, so he flew me out and we had a cool time. Like the first night, we ended up at Dave and Buster's. We were having a fun time. We played games, we went out to all the things the next day he went to. It was either practice or a meeting. Cause he was out there for work, bitch. He never came back to the hotel room. Literally, I was in the room by myself. And back then, I ain't had the money to just leave. This is also. I don't have friends in the city that I was in at the time. And I was like, I just got really, really bad.

[Mandy B]

Was it a good city to hang out in?

[Weezy]

But at the time I.

[Lacy Mosley]

Were you in, bro?

[Weezy]

I was 18, 19 at the time. I was like, bro. And I ain't got no fucking money. There was no Ubers at this time. You had to call a cab. Like, bro, this is 2009, 2010.

[Mandy B]

Oh, HS man.

[Weezy]

Like this.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. This is a different type of stranded.

[Weezy]

This is a different type of stranded. You didn't have.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now we got all types of getaway apps on the phone.

[Weezy]

I don't even think I had an.

[Mandy B]

Apple at the time. Getaway apps.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like I could just rob a bank and then hit Lyft and they literally.

[Weezy]

The way we're able to just get around is way different than it was back in 2009. And actually it was probably 2010. Cause 2009, I graduated. But yeah. So I just got irate. Mind you, I'm in this fucking business. All of his shit is in there. So baby, I leave the missing room.

[Lacy Mosley]

So wait, he dipped without even taking his own blind?

[Weezy]

This gets even crazier later now.

[Lacy Mosley]

Did you think at one moment that maybe he had went missing? Like he was a missing man? Oh, wait, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Was he texting you?

[Weezy]

Yeah, he just wasn't coming back to the room. And mind you, I ended up finding out he fucked someone else. Cause he's a hoe ass Nigga.

[Lacy Mosley]

Anyways, okay, no.

[Weezy]

So I leave the next day, but I get all ready to go to the airport, and he never came back that whole night. So I said, okay, well, if this nigga not gonna come back, baby. I stole every electronic in the room. And mind you, back then, this is how old it was, too.

[Mandy B]

You took a coffee maker?

[Weezy]

Hold on, listen. I took like a portable, like, thing that you could watch DVDs on. I took.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, like a Blu Ray player.

[Weezy]

Oh, all of that. I took that. I took two phones, two BlackBerries.

[Lacy Mosley]

Not two phones, two, bruh.

[Weezy]

He had a lot.

[Lacy Mosley]

He put. His father was a criminal. Way too many phones. He was.

[Weezy]

I took a pair of his shoes.

[Mandy B]

Okay, were they worn?

[Weezy]

No, they were like new shoes. But I mean, they were a big size. And I was like, I can get these off.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, you. Oh.

[Weezy]

I stole everything that I thought had value. When I say everything, I stole everything. Like, there was like a watch in there. Wasn't a Rolex or nothing, but I stole that. It was like, probably a G shock. I stole everything out that room, went to the airport, never talked to him again. Ended up, like, selling this shit off when I got home. Oh, literally, Mind you, I want him.

[Lacy Mosley]

To see you on Facebook market.

[Weezy]

No. You ready? You want to know the craziest part about this? Maybe eight years later, Facebook market. Maybe eight. Eight years later, he ends up sliding in my DMs.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my goodness. Don't tell me he forgot who you were.

[Weezy]

He, I think totally forgot who I was. No, I mean, you know, I lost weight and we ended up fucking. And again. And we ended up seeing each other so much that I ended up fucking him and his baby mama.

[Lacy Mosley]

Wow.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Which I don't remember this part of the story. That was the guy.

[Weezy]

Well, it was the same guy. The same guy I robbed ended up working in New York. Say that.

[Mandy B]

Wait, did you tell him?

[Weezy]

Why would I tell him? I robbed him eight years prior.

[Lacy Mosley]

You can't tell nobody you robbed him.

[Mandy B]

Wait, but he knows you robbed him.

[Lacy Mosley]

What?

[Mandy B]

Not.

[Weezy]

No, I think he forgot. Because, bro, niggas be forgetting when you fuck so many people. Maybe he thought he misplaced all of these items.

[Lacy Mosley]

He might also. He just disappeared for days on end. Anybody could have took that stuff.

[Weezy]

All I know is I felt like, well, damn, you have a type because you slipped back in my DMs. And so I was like, well, you still look good and maybe you're not a nigga I want to rob today. And so I hung back out with him, and it Was great. We had a good time.

[Mandy B]

I cannot believe that's the guy.

[Lacy Mosley]

You didn't hang out with Rob today.

[Weezy]

Same guy.

[Lacy Mosley]

This is. I do remember running back, as you say.

[Weezy]

Yeah, same guy.

[Mandy B]

But I always thought you ended up telling him.

[Weezy]

No, I never. I never told him, hey, fuck before.

[Mandy B]

You never said we fucked.

[Weezy]

It was the same guy. Same guy.

[Mandy B]

I'm almost asking Mandy, are you sure?

[Weezy]

By the way, by the way, by the way, to make this, like. Here's the thing. He's a basketball player, an NBA player.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, okay. So he probably really did not remember. He really did not fucking remember. Bro, he's busy. He's going city to city. He's getting robbed all the time, probably. You know what I mean? He's not robbing.

[Weezy]

Well, at least you're consistent. You clearly have a type. I was your type eight years ago, and I'm your type today. And when he hit me, I thought it was gonna be on some. Like, he remembered I said this N. Doesn't remember me, but he still looks good and so on.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm glad you didn't drop the gun and be like, I knew this day would happen. And, yes, I did rob you. You were like, oh, hey, what's up, stranger?

[Weezy]

Never told him. To this day, I robbed him.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's beautiful.

[Weezy]

Yeah. And I was.

[Mandy B]

Did he ever text me and we.

[Weezy]

Were fucking with each other for.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, like, once he came back to the room and realized all his shit was gone. What'd he say?

[Weezy]

I don't know. We never. We didn't talk until he slid in my DMs again.

[Mandy B]

So he blocked him.

[Weezy]

I mean, I don't know what the technology was back then, but I never spoke to that nigga again.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't know what the technology.

[Weezy]

I don't know if you could block back in 2010. I don't remember how my phone at the time operated.

[Mandy B]

Oh, so he just never hit you up?

[Weezy]

We both never hit each other up. Mind you, it was back in the day. This is even before Instagram.

[Mandy B]

I forgot that then.

[Weezy]

Or this was either Instagram or I think we met on Twitter, honestly. And back then, I got flew out through the DMs. Okay. It was a. I was living a very dangerous life.

[Lacy Mosley]

That was a time to be. It really was.

[Weezy]

As long as you had a blue check, I felt like you weren't going to kill me.

[Mandy B]

Do you remember how much you sold stuff for?

[Weezy]

And I think at the time, maybe I ended up getting, like, $7, 700.

[Mandy B]

I ended up giving him a lot.

[Weezy]

I know it wasn't a lot, but I ended up.

[Mandy B]

That is a lot. That is a lot.

[Lacy Mosley]

At my time you were like 18.

[Weezy]

Years, it was multiple devices. And mind you, this is when you could like get rid of especially good phones because you could unlock them.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, they weren't like this. A jailbreak. Jailbreak like it is now. Don't ask me how I had technology. Oh my God.

[Weezy]

Equipment.

[Mandy B]

I fucking that. I was like, this is a robbery I did two years ago. It's not a real robbery, but it's a celebrity story. And if they heard this story, if it somehow went somewhere, they would never remember this. So my business partner and I, Alex Media, went to this party after the Jay Z Paris Louis Vuitton foundation show. We didn't know what party we were going to end up at. And it literally was a three floor hotel room that was theirs. So we knew we were going to the Jay Z after party and we might see Jay Z. Right. I didn't think we was gonna see her. So mind you, we're there cause we were doing some production for the show and we just ended up there. Cause it was cool. So me and him looking at each other, we pull each other in the bathroom. Everybody definitely thought we were gonna do a bump.

[Lacy Mosley]

We were in the bathroom.

[Mandy B]

I was like, yeah, two people in.

[Lacy Mosley]

The bathroom in la.

[Mandy B]

We were like, remember when I came home and told this story, like, bruh, to not know you're about to be in their hotel room. I was freaking out. I also called the only other famous person I knew that had met them and it was Charlamagne. Charlamagne was in bed with his wife. And I was like, you're never gonna believe this. And what I love about Charlamagne is he gave me what I wanted. He was like, bruh, shut the fuck up. He was like, I ain't even never been. No. I was like, I don't know, what do I do? He's like, just, just be cool, nigga. So whatever. It's not like we're really interacting. There's a lot of people there. Right. But here's the robbery story.

[Lacy Mosley]

So I know you better not be telling me you robbed Beyonce.

[Mandy B]

It wasn't a real robber. I had to go to the bathroom and the bathrooms downstairs were full. And then the top level, I don't know whose bathroom is personal bathroom, but whatever. None of her products, none of their stuff was in there. But at this hotel there were like different soaps and different like lotion from A hotel.

[Weezy]

It's not.

[Mandy B]

I want you to see it. Wait, wait.

[Lacy Mosley]

It was Dior.

[Mandy B]

Dior.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy B]

So I start taking shit from the room as you. That's one shoot from the bathroom.

[Weezy]

If you go to a nice hotel, they got bovari, all the, like, cute stuff.

[Lacy Mosley]

I take the towels from the hotel.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I did that too.

[Lacy Mosley]

I like to use them as makeup. Removing cloths.

[Mandy B]

Now, here's the celebrity part that got funny. I come out of the bathroom, and the people that are waiting for the bathroom are asap. And Rihanna. Rihanna was pregnant at the time.

[Lacy Mosley]

As she. As she.

[Weezy]

As she's always is.

[Mandy B]

You know, they see me looking shocked, and they were, like, laughing or doing something together. And I can't remember this. Cause I was really fucked up. But I remember being like, oh, shit, what y' all doing? That's what I said. So then they looking at me like, what the fuck is this bitch talking about? I'm like, what y' all doing? They was like, nigga, what you doing? I was like, I'm not gonna lie to y'. All. I was in there stealing shit. So ASAP is dying laughing. He was like, bro, I take shit from hotels all the time. Swear to God, he does this. And this is when I was like, this is the funniest shit of all time. Rihanna's laughing at him. He's like, bro, don't like me taking shit, baby. And he grabs the cordless phone from the fucking bed. The nightstand goes. And I'mma take this shit, too, and.

[Lacy Mosley]

Walk on the room, bitch.

[Mandy B]

I'm telling you. I was like, do you know when you just expect somebody to be cool and funny? Yeah. Literally. That, to me, was like, just the coolest interaction I've ever had with somebody. Because I just was all over theft.

[Lacy Mosley]

You see how theft can bring people together? I'm telling you, except for bringing you, apart from your belongings. We're bringing people.

[Mandy B]

Cause I was really sitting there with all the lotions and shit. Because my purse was on the outside. So I was like, damn.

[Weezy]

Oh.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. So you. I think, don't you open the door? You got fist, do you?

[Mandy B]

So wait, get in the hotel. We leave the elevator, it's like 6am we have this great night. I'm in the car with my business partner. I'm like, I can't believe this shit. He's like, I know, it's amazing. I was like, dude, I stole a bunch of lotions. This nigga opens his jacket.

[Weezy]

Me too, bro.

[Mandy B]

When I tell you you got 20 Dior. Cheval Blanc, French lotions. Every time I put it on, I want the spirit of Beyonce. I barely use it because I do want to have like a big meeting or something. So I could be.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, and then. And you want to walk in the room with the scent already on you. And then she'd be like, what is that exactly?

[Weezy]

Not the voice.

[Mandy B]

No. But I always picture my head if I wear this thing that was like the biggest and richest room I've ever been in my life. Like, the owner of LVMH was there and shit. So in my head I'm like, I'm going to recreate this luxury, this richness, this moment and visualize it. So, yeah, I think I'm doing well because of the lotion. That's why we have a New York.

[Lacy Mosley]

Times and that's how we made it into the New York Times bestseller list. Was Wee Sees lotion.

[Mandy B]

She probably never even went in that bathroom. There were seven bathrooms. I saw the hotel room on a YouTube. There's seven bathrooms in a hotel. I know she never went in there.

[Lacy Mosley]

But anyway, no, that was their party hosting. Three story hotel. They probably had another three story hotel for, like, the fact that none of.

[Weezy]

Their items were in that hotel.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, not at all.

[Mandy B]

Julius was there. He was guarding something. Bitch.

[Weezy]

Beyonce.

[Lacy Mosley]

See, that's how you know you famous. Famous. But your bodyguard is famous. I've literally been at tours and we were like, julius, Julius.

[Weezy]

I would say it's also only because he's so good looking.

[Lacy Mosley]

He is so fine.

[Weezy]

If he wasn't that fine guy, none of us would give a fuck.

[Mandy B]

That's the true Big Rob. Rest in peace. We all knew him.

[Weezy]

He was on TV as a like.

[Mandy B]

Oh, that's true.

[Weezy]

We didn't care until he was on tv. Like, Julius is fine.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, probably. I be want. I don't want to assault our queen or nothing, but I do be trying to run up. I want to run up on her just so you get, like. So he can just grab me and throw me away.

[Weezy]

Oh, Julius, grab me right?

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm like, oh, no.

[Mandy B]

Not the slut.

[Weezy]

Julius.

[Lacy Mosley]

Look, she's a little too intentional about this. Like, run up. It had nothing to do with Julius. I took a lotion from getting Julius.

[Mandy B]

Oh, no, y', all, she. Lacey's bending over.

[Lacy Mosley]

Robbery.

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[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

So today in Historic Hoodwinks, we're gonna be talking about a well known Arizona news anchor who left her TV job when the pandemic started to why can't I say this word to found a company designed to help people steal COVID 19 relief money. So she founded a company that was designed to help people steal COVID 19 relief money.

[Mandy B]

But what was the Thing that she called it.

[Weezy]

Was it the ppp? The sba? Like, what was the.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, she was like. Started her company to allow people to do crime under her syndicate. You know what I mean? She was like. She was like organized crime, but, like, really? Let's organize it.

[Mandy B]

But wait, so they knew they were going to be fucking people over?

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, let's see. So Stephanie Hockridge was once a very familiar face in Arizona households. Look, she's giving me, like, cheer captain.

[Weezy]

And she's giving me Desperate Housewives Homecoming.

[Mandy B]

Like, yeah, I've been watching hunting, and she looks like she deserves not believe in abortion.

[Weezy]

She definitely gives, but only when she.

[Lacy Mosley]

Has to go to her aunt's house. At 16, she just goes to her aunt's house for a week and a half, and then she comes back. Oh, she.

[Mandy B]

She could be a cousin fucker.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, dang. I was just saying. That's the thing. I'm from Texas. Y' all never heard about people going.

[Mandy B]

To their aunt's house?

[Weezy]

Yeah, I'm just saying she looked like cousin.

[Mandy B]

When I started talking like this. I'm thinking about cousin fucking.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. No, that's what I was like. Why you jumping to cousin fucking? I wasn't at cousin fucking.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

What's the.

[Weezy]

Going to the aunt's house?

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, so, like, I guess maybe it was just a thing in Texas, but, like, in high school, if a girl got pregnant and they weren't gonna keep the baby, they would, like, go to their aunt's house for like a week or so, and then they would come back and they wouldn't have no baby no more.

[Weezy]

Oh, wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, that's not a thing.

[Weezy]

Nope. In Florida, we just said abortion.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, no. We was like, oh, yes. You know, she at her aunt's house.

[Weezy]

Never heard at your aunt's house?

[Lacy Mosley]

I went out of town.

[Weezy]

Never heard that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Do what? Okay. Is that how you did your.

[Mandy B]

Cause?

[Weezy]

Never heard it.

[Lacy Mosley]

This is a very specific lie only I was telling people.

[Weezy]

I feel like that was something you.

[Mandy B]

Said in your fucking honesty.

[Weezy]

I mean, shit.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mandy B]

Honestly, the irony of Texas and not being able to have an abortion. Like, right?

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

It makes no sense.

[Mandy B]

I recently offered up anyone. When Roe v. Wade got overturned, I was like, hey, if anybody wants. Wants the abortion pill, send me a message. DM me. Like, I'll. I' ma send it to you. I'm thinking three to five women going here.

[Lacy Mosley]

You thought three to five, bitch.

[Mandy B]

40 at one point. I had an assistant at the time. I'm like, teanna, how many abortion Pills can we get each. Like, we gotta help these girls. All of it was Texas. I thought it would be Georgia, but maybe Georgia, they're driving somewhere else. I don't know. But all the Texas girls were like, we. I had three strippers. It was a lot. And they were like, I'll cash app. You ain't gotta give me no donation pill, bitch.

[Lacy Mosley]

Get me this.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it was rough.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, no. It's so terrible. I'm from Texas. I love my state. I hate its laws. So Stephanie Hockridge, who, like, I loved it. She also gives me, like, Pilates Mom. Like, you know, like, she looks pretty fit.

[Mandy B]

She does.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

Like, you're just looking at her tits. But okay, okay. I'm not gonna lie.

[Lacy Mosley]

I am by. And I had they right there.

[Mandy B]

I don't see why we're looking at a headshot. Honey, where's the fit?

[Lacy Mosley]

You're seeing titties.

[Weezy]

Literally, it is a shoulder up. And you said she looks pretty fit. Her breasts sit high.

[Mandy B]

Just white women with a smile. Pilates. That's what the photo is. We looked at.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was trying to give a very genteel description. Now, in tournaments, you're like a queen.

[Mandy B]

No lie.

[Weezy]

Word to Eric.

[Mandy B]

This is why we have trap houses. Because I'm tired of these hoes. Every time I want to do a little agree, I got to see this bitch. And not. No, this is what we think it looks like.

[Lacy Mosley]

Would you mind scooting your mat over a little bit? My dog is gonna be right here.

[Weezy]

Well, that's actually her. She breaks her dog everywhere.

[Mandy B]

Nina Simone is going to be at the.

[Lacy Mosley]

Nina Simone gonna be at the event.

[Mandy B]

Hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Period. No. So, yes, this is her. She very looks like all American. Very shiny hair. Very, like, chunky highlights of a time and a place and an era. So she was on the news in Arizona. She spent seven years as an anchor at KN K&XV. That sounds like a slur. I don't know why. So it's one of the ABC affiliates in Phoenix. And they. They would do. She would do stories like this one. Like, look at her look. Okay, look. She does look like she does Pilates. And we're seeing more of herself.

[Mandy B]

She do now I see another senior scammed out of every cent to her name. Tonight.

[Lacy Mosley]

We know the Department of Homeland Security is considering a proposal to separate children from their mothers. I gotta be honest with you.

[Mandy B]

You.

[Lacy Mosley]

This could be a stark reality that we are facing tonight with hundreds of forgettable. Would never have known if I'd seen Her before. I could watch her every night. And I couldn't pick her up right.

[Weezy]

Past her and be like, I don't know.

[Lacy Mosley]

That woman wouldn't know a thing.

[Mandy B]

I said recently to my homegirl. She went on a date. My homegirl's white, and the guy's like, very finance bro guy. She sends me his photo, and I'm like, didn't you already fuck him? And so she calls me because she's laughing. She's like, dude, a lot of the guys just look alike. Like a lot of white guys with that Patagonia, like. And white women have that aesthetic too.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

When they have the aesthetic, she's like, it's just like it repeats itself. I'm like, yeah, now her totally feel.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, oh, she's a copy pasta white woman. Like, she absolutely should get into crime. Cause that face is so forgettable. You could literally rob me at gunpoint, broad daylight in the park, and I would not know who she is.

[Weezy]

If she ended up in a lineup, would a lot of other women that look like her wouldn't be able to.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ooh, wouldn't be able. Don't you slap three brunettes in a row. I would know. I wouldn't know.

[Mandy B]

Forgettable face.

[Lacy Mosley]

She could come up to me with the gun, broad daylight in the park, and be like, it's me, Stephanie Hockridge, and I'll be robbing you right now. More at 11. And I'd be like, ah, my money. And then the police come. I'd be like, I don't know. I think she hit me over the head. I don't remember a thing.

[Weezy]

No, a thing.

[Lacy Mosley]

Maybe I wasn't robbed, you know? Great face, Stephanie. We love this for you. So she was nominated for an Emmy. So someone noticed her. And named favorite newscaster by Arizona Foothills magazine. You know, Arizona Foothills Magazine? That's my favorite mag about the foothills of Arizona.

[Weezy]

Wait, this is her?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, that's not her.

[Weezy]

That's a different.

[Mandy B]

That's not her.

[Lacy Mosley]

See, I was like, is that her?

[Mandy B]

Is that.

[Weezy]

Maybe she just had extensions.

[Lacy Mosley]

Do you see how fast I said yes, I told you. I do not know what this lady looks like.

[Weezy]

Real quick.

[Lacy Mosley]

I think that's. I think that's her.

[Weezy]

I think that's her.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's one of her faces. It says, meet the new face of Foothills and a new face indeed. Cause we will never know.

[Mandy B]

That's a little.

[Lacy Mosley]

So this is like a lifestyle luxury publication. So I guess the girls in Arizona know about the foothills. And so she had it all until her 20, 25 fraud based fall from grace.

[Weezy]

Wait a second. She got caught five years later after the pandemic. So she probably kept it going.

[Mandy B]

She got caught now?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Oh, she got caught now. This is more of a recent development.

[Mandy B]

Okay, I ain't gonna lie. What's the crime in how many years?

[Weezy]

Cause like, wait, no, that's why I asked, was it PPP or sba? Because a lot of PPP loans got forget. Got forgiven.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, the thing is only for rich people, like Khloe Kardashian's PPP loan was forgiven. But then yes, Diddy had all the.

[Weezy]

Rich people and like multi Chris Brown.

[Lacy Mosley]

Had a PPP and they were like for millions and millions of dollars and all of them got forgiven.

[Weezy]

Forgiven. But if you took out 35,000, baby, they coming for that ass.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, if you was Lil from Pretty Ricky Blue.

[Weezy]

Baby Blue. Pretty Ricky.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky.

[Weezy]

Oh yeah, he got caught now that.

[Mandy B]

Was just half off.

[Weezy]

Well, no, there was. Well, here is the problem too. He chose to do it and spend money on Lambos.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, he did get some Lambos, bro.

[Weezy]

He got some fucking cars.

[Lacy Mosley]

What are you gonna do? You gotta Lambos now? No.

[Weezy]

That is how the woman who worked at Amazon got caught. You can't be sitting here pulling up to the parking lot in Lambos and baby, you didn't have that last year.

[Lacy Mosley]

But now pulling up like it's five and I'm on it.

[Weezy]

Period.

[Lacy Mosley]

Surveillance on.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

I'm really trying to think like if maybe me 10 years ago. Well, 10 years ago I would have been 25. So wait. Nah, some real. When I was getting big checks at work or something big happened because I worked at commissioners.

[Lacy Mosley]

You went and got Lambos.

[Mandy B]

I was getting gold teeth and shit. I was. I'm from Florida. I went right to what part of Florida? Orlando.

[Weezy]

Orlando. 7ch City.

[Mandy B]

So I went to BB and then I went to Hot Topping because I was always little alt girls. I get a cool little spike bracelet for my tight little bandage dress and then go two to the bottom. That's why I'm finished do. Then maybe I'm going to get me a little ponytail like yours, except it's going to not move. My.

[Weezy]

Those are all still done.

[Mandy B]

It's an eyebrow layer.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, you got to get an eyebrow.

[Weezy]

Those are. Those aren't six figure purchases.

[Lacy Mosley]

They aren't.

[Mandy B]

I only had $300 and I spent 350.

[Lacy Mosley]

Do you know what $300 and I spent?

[Mandy B]

Let me tell y'. All a scam. I used to do that. I Actually forgot about. Okay, so no matter how much you overdraft, as long as it's one time, it'll be $35 fees. So I would go with to the club trap niggas. I'd be like, oh, I get credit card points if you let me pay on my card. So they would hand me cash. I wouldn't have the cash in my bank account, but the card would still go through. So then it was like my cheaper payday loan instead of amscot.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's genius. Okay. You weren't paying any kind of exorbitant interest rates. You know, you're in a community bank.

[Mandy B]

Hello. A credit union.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's a credit union if I've ever heard of one.

[Mandy B]

And then I remember once when I was, like, going over it with the guy that I was asking for, like, my first secured credit card. Yeah. He was like, how can you afford to spend $1,000 at Taboo nightclub? I'm like, I don't know. I didn't know what to say. But anyway, it worked out.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's what you say. Y' all is somebody else business. So. No, but I love this. This is actually really smart. And then you weren't paying those. Cuz payday loans are a scam, and they cannibalize on people who need money fast and can't afford to make choices when it comes to lending. It's like, if you need the money now, it's like, whatever the interest rate.

[Weezy]

Is, they gonna pay.

[Lacy Mosley]

If I feel a pain in my chest and my left side goes numb, I'm going to the hospital. I'm not gonna be like, how much? The ambulance. Hold on before I get in.

[Weezy]

No, no, I do, and I have money now, girl. I woke up one morning shivering, thought I was gonna die. Called my mom and said, mom, I think I'm dying. I had a kidney infection, which is. And literally, I'm on the phone with her, and she's like, girl, I'm gonna call 911. I said, oh, no, that's a. I don't have. I don't know how much that ambulance bill gonna be. I can just call an Uber. And I called the Uber to come pick me up to take me to the hospital. I wasn't getting no ambulance. What?

[Lacy Mosley]

I've ubered to the hospital.

[Weezy]

I'm uber hospital.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, Uber's really our first responder. Yeah, like, y' all delivering the groceries.

[Mandy B]

Do you know that they're not allowed to drop you off at the emergency room? I went to go visit a friend who was in the waiting room.

[Lacy Mosley]

Stop doing it.

[Mandy B]

That's a thing. They're not.

[Weezy]

I got dropped off.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I got dropped off and I did switch the location on the way there.

[Weezy]

No, mine was to the er and this nigga wanted to stop at every light. I was literally like, bro, can you, like, get me there my n. You know? You see where the pin took me? Straight to the hospital. ER Emergency room.

[Lacy Mosley]

You got water for me? You should also have a little emergency cone you can put on the top of your car so we can bypass the traffic.

[Weezy]

Hello. No, no, the phone charger.

[Lacy Mosley]

Get the. Get the little.

[Weezy]

No, that's my thing. There was no traffic. It was 3 o' clock in the morning. It was 3 o' clock in the morning.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Yeah, no, he be more serious.

[Weezy]

But I got dropped off right? At the ER.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, yes. So back to the 2025 fall from grace for Ms. Stephanie, who is everyone and no one at the. There were plenty of COVID relief. Like Wezy were saying before, there's plenty of COVID relief fraudsters out there. Right. You had the U.S. small Business Administration guaranteed aid to keep businesses afloat and keep employees paid during the pandemic using paycheck protection plans, PPP, and $800 billion loan initiative. So they was really giving out the P's and P's and the P's. And so many financial tech firms that facilitated these loans did no due diligence to prevent fraud. One finding cabbage. Approved hundreds of loans for fake farms, including what claimed to be a potato farm in Palm Beach, Florida. Where potatoes. Potatoes grow in Florida? No, an orange grove in Minnesota. Cause you know how the orange groves in Minnesota be.

[Mandy B]

Those are my favorites.

[Lacy Mosley]

My favorite oranges is the Minnesota.

[Mandy B]

That was really good.

[Lacy Mosley]

And cattle farms on a sandbar in New Jersey.

[Weezy]

Get the fuck up.

[Lacy Mosley]

Cause cows love the beach. They weren't looking into anything. They were just approving every single loan. They're like, what's it for? It's for our cows on the beach.

[Mandy B]

Why didn't I do this?

[Weezy]

Yeah, I'm actually really.

[Lacy Mosley]

Cause you didn't want to be in prison with it. But you do own a business. You could have probably got yours forgiven for funsies.

[Mandy B]

So you could have just.

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm not going to hold you.

[Mandy B]

Literally, we had this conversation. So we were thinking about expanded travel house to Atlanta. Because of course that would pop, right? Pilates, a trap. And literally, my business partner on the phone, and she's like, fuck. Why isn't it the pandemic. It's been done.

[Lacy Mosley]

We would have literally bought all our performers with fucking PPP loans.

[Mandy B]

I was like, yo, it's so true. Because during the pandemic, what happened for all of us, right? Mandy started a business. I started a business too. So it's like you end up sitting down and really putting your head in it. Like, hey, I have to pivot. What's next to know that the government was funding us to be on our own.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, fuck.

[Mandy B]

I might be on Stephanie's side.

[Lacy Mosley]

It sucks that they want to put all the small time people in prison.

[Mandy B]

They do.

[Lacy Mosley]

And they wiped out all these millionaires, like, debts. And I'm like. And did like, Chloe can pay y'. All. She got all that jean money.

[Weezy]

Listen, and listen, them jeans, they not cheap.

[Lacy Mosley]

They not cheap. And they actually pretty nice.

[Weezy]

No good Americans. This is not an act.

[Lacy Mosley]

She doing something over there with that stuff. So I'm just gonna say that. But you know, they're getting out hundreds of billions of dollars, possibly up to a trillion dollars in PPP loans in this time period. So Stephanie Hockridge, she account a pretty big chunk of that ppp.

[Mandy B]

How big?

[Lacy Mosley]

I'm saying something. So she left her news anchor job in 2020, and weeks later she co founded a financial tech firm in Scottsdale with her husband, Nathan Reese. They called their new company Blue Acorn. That sound like, ooh, he looks like a racist. Some financial. Oh, he's that picture called me the hard R. Oh, my goodness.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie to you. These are the types that just are cops. By face, yes, not by train.

[Lacy Mosley]

He don't even have to wear a cop uniform. If I saw him, I'd be like, good evening, officer. Like, it's.

[Mandy B]

That's. This very nice. What you doing there, boy?

[Lacy Mosley]

Ooh, he's pretty late to be out right now.

[Weezy]

What was his back? Do we know what his background was?

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, we don't know his back because.

[Weezy]

I just love to know how in 2020, after coming off of losing your job or quitting your job as a news anchor, how you then just open up a financial. Financial firm.

[Lacy Mosley]

I mean, I think, I don't think.

[Mandy B]

That'S crazy though, because you gotta think a lot of people that are like starting new businesses get into tech, they get into different type of shit at the time. You probably.

[Weezy]

That's why I asked what his background was. Because no, people don't just wake up and say, I'm gonna start a financial firm today. Like, there has to be some sort of like, what the.

[Lacy Mosley]

Can we figure out what the. What the husband Did.

[Weezy]

Yeah. What did the husband do? Did he work at like a, a, at. At a hedge fund? Did he work at, you know, anything?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, because jumping into finance and I.

[Weezy]

Have, I. I was an accountant, like, and I worked at a big four firm. Investment bank. Like, you don't just jump in.

[Lacy Mosley]

I can't imagine you as an accountant. Like, I can't intellectually, but. But at a desk, in a job.

[Weezy]

I worked at Goldman Sachs and Ernst and Young.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's fucking crazy.

[Weezy]

I can. I know Literally everyone was like, bitch, you don't have the personality of an accountant. I felt offended, but you have a.

[Lacy Mosley]

Little bit too much risk for accounting.

[Weezy]

Listen, and that's why I'm no longer an agent.

[Lacy Mosley]

What? Yeah, you know the ones that be doing taxes, they be like, I get.

[Mandy B]

You 50,000 back, you ain't got no kids. I'll make kids.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Your friends got kids. How many people can we claim as dependents?

[Weezy]

But yeah, just making a financial firm in the middle of the pandemic is a little.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's a lot.

[Weezy]

That's a lot.

[Lacy Mosley]

So they processed over 12.5 billion in PPP loans. Billion, yes. That's with a B. With a B. Oh, there it is. 12.5 billion.

[Weezy]

Oh, that's why she got with somewhere.

[Lacy Mosley]

Between 250 million and 300 million going to the company's ownership, including Ms. Stephanie herself, Ms. Girl.

[Mandy B]

Where the fuck were they living on a yacht.

[Lacy Mosley]

Right. Like, I'm sorry if I make $12 billion doing anything. I know it's illegal. She didn't leave the country.

[Weezy]

Well, because they dispersed a large amount of it to, I guess, whoever they were doing it for.

[Mandy B]

Oh, true.

[Weezy]

Like they didn't keep all the billions, but probably kept at least one.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna hold you. I would have stopped at a good 10.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I, I don't think we need to get into the billions.

[Weezy]

The billions.

[Lacy Mosley]

You know you going to jail. When you in the billions, somebody's going.

[Mandy B]

To, you know you going to jail. Once you're in 100 million.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Once you get to nine figures, it's too far.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's too far. And like, if you're going to do this kind of heist, then it's like, don't wait for the government to find you. Like, find, make your number that you going to get out with and then if it's your 10 million or if it's okay, we'll stop at a billion and then leave the country.

[Mandy B]

Said then done though, you see, because you know how it's like, you watch People just continue to like push themselves, be successful, like all three of us do, I'm sure. Right? Maybe you really can't stop. No, it's like all the drug dealers I used to date, I'm like, bro, you already have a nice house.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, you're like, well, there's people, there's people with passion.

[Weezy]

Well, there's people that push the goalpost. Like, if ever you see a movie right where they're bank robbers, they always say, this is the last one. The last one was the last one. Like, it's a thrill, it's excitement. Like, damn, this is still working.

[Lacy Mosley]

So back to them, their partner lenders facilitate almost three times as many PPP loans in 2021 than JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America combined. They're like outdoing the financial institutions, their mom and pop startup loans.

[Weezy]

Combined.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, combined.

[Weezy]

Wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

So even though only one Blue Acorn employee was directly involved in processing loan applications, and no one at the company had any training on loan underwriting, so they had one person processing all the loans. They had no idea how loans worked, but they was getting all loans, more than bank of America and JP Morgan Chase combined. So the more loans you process, the more fees you collect. So Blue Acorn, their company received over a billion in taxpayer funded processing fees for facilitating these loans for people. So they were the middleman of people getting these fake ass loans. So they would recruit people to submit for loans which they weren't eligible. And Blue Acorn would fake their payroll records, tax documents and bank statements. So in one instance, Stephanie and her, her Boothang Nathan obtained a PPP loan for more than $136,000 for a company that didn't have any employees. You know, the employees are vibes. The employees are the people we met along the way.

[Mandy B]

But also many businesses don't require employees. Like, so if you're, you would think you probably could scam it out.

[Weezy]

Well, no, that's why I know, like I asked my accountant at the time, like, n, I want to peep your peep. I said I pay people, but they weren't on payroll, which means like you had to actually have payroll. So independent contractors, if you were a company that paid people through W9s and stuff like that, you technically didn't qualify for PPP because you actually had to be paying into payroll.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Which is like an ADP or something.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

But a lot of production companies think about it like that are independent in la when they got PPP loans, like you could just be registered as a DP or an editor, director or whatever. And like, boom, there's all that money type shit.

[Lacy Mosley]

You're right. You are absolutely right. I mean, I'm sure we all have LLCs and corporations, obviously, but. So it's like, that is a company. I don't have any employees at the moment, but it is a company.

[Mandy B]

Right?

[Weezy]

This is why people got to get. This is how people got.

[Mandy B]

Fuck that gig.

[Lacy Mosley]

This is where I admit that I debate.

[Mandy B]

We need help.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Yes. We have to get through Stephanie and her shenanigans here. So they took out that $136,000 loan, but didn't have no employees for the company. Then they charged borrowers a kickback or a success fee based on the percentage of loans that were funded. So if people like, how much?

[Mandy B]

How much, how much?

[Lacy Mosley]

So it just depended. So it was like, if they got the loan for you and it was a large amount, they were like, okay, we're gonna need a little cut today. Cause you need 10%.

[Mandy B]

I mean, they deserve it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, they do. Cause they putting together all the LIE documents for you. Payroll tax, you know, like they doing it. So Stephanie and Nathan instructed staff to prioritize speed over accuracy. Because that always leads to good things.

[Mandy B]

It just does.

[Lacy Mosley]

Application reviewers were told to push through questionable applications, ignore red flags, and skip identity checks unless fraud was extremely obvious.

[Weezy]

Because the oranges in Minnesota wasn't like, what they're like.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't know if it's like the Fyre Fest guy. No, don't give him no PPPs. Believe it. For all the time.

[Mandy B]

He really was about to make a festival. Diplod was going to be the.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was trying to go. I was even gonna go to Fyre Fest. Two boots on the ground. I needed to understand.

[Mandy B]

I. I did kind of want to go to two. I was like, yo, if they do a little influencer joint, I'm gonna go.

[Lacy Mosley]

He could have really did this shit for real. It's just that he don't wanna be serious. Billy don't ever wanna be serious about nothing. He just wanna do molly and be on boats.

[Mandy B]

I do, too. Billy told me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, you have to do more. There's more to life than Molly and boats. It can only be a small percentage, like 25% of life.

[Mandy B]

I'm with that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Some staff process hundreds of loans with no training. Sometimes within 30 seconds each.

[Weezy]

Get the.

[Lacy Mosley]

So they was just like, stamp, stamp loan approved.

[Mandy B]

Not paying attention. Not to take 12 billion.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. Let's just say they took 10% of 12 billion.

[Weezy]

Wait, what is a billion?

[Lacy Mosley]

He's got the calculator.

[Mandy B]

That's 120 million. Ooh, it doesn't even fit on my calculator. That's okay. Now I got 12.

[Lacy Mosley]

They got a lot.

[Mandy B]

10%.

[Weezy]

They got a lot.

[Lacy Mosley]

Let's see.

[Mandy B]

I want to get a lot. My calculator broke.

[Lacy Mosley]

They stole so much money with a calculator broke. So the original fee structure for PPP loans meant that small loans netted like Blue Acorn, a few hundred dollars, while large loans would yield tens of thousands of dollars. Like with a kickbacks and they percentages and all this. Right. So they started a vipp.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

Program that allowed high dollar clients to bypass standard review protocols. So if you needed a PPP but you was a VIPP, they said we're.

[Weezy]

Going to take 20%.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Cows on a beach.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. It started as a nightclub. Then they opened a bottle service section. This is the VIPP for PP loan fraud. Okay. We love it.

[Weezy]

They started in middle America and said, you know what, we're taking this on the road.

[Mandy B]

How are they doing it so many years if Covid winded.

[Lacy Mosley]

So you know, a lot of people didn't start getting picked up for those PPP loans until years after starting get it right now. Yeah. No, no, no.

[Mandy B]

They're not giving it up.

[Weezy]

They're not giving out the loans anymore. But what they're doing the same thing with taxes, like how the IR take some time to get on your ass if you not paying and shit. It's the same thing. Now that they've given it all out, they're going back through the red flag.

[Lacy Mosley]

Exactly. So seeing this company that just was stamping everything every minute, the only scam.

[Mandy B]

That I really want to get involved in, that's not a real scam, but I would like to scam it is the New York Housing Lottery. I don't know if anybody listening knows about this.

[Lacy Mosley]

If you win that lottery, it's almost better than winning a real lottery. Don't you have to be on the list for like years sometimes?

[Mandy B]

Yes. Yeah. So I've had calls, but I never got chosen like over the years, the years. But basically, if you're listening. So because New York is such an expensive place to live, they have many apartment buildings, luxury apartment buildings, where they give a percentage up it of it up and basically do it for low income New Yorkers and residents. Now I don't want to take from anybody, but I would like one listen because I saw I would go through.

[Lacy Mosley]

The poor door like, oh, I was.

[Mandy B]

Just Going to bring up the poor door. I don't give a shit. Put me with the motherfucking doorman and smoking on the corner. I don't give a shit.

[Lacy Mosley]

Fucking New York City luxury.

[Mandy B]

Floor to ceiling windows, high rise. And I'm not talking about other boroughs. I'm talking about Chelsea. Flatironed.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, Leeta.

[Mandy B]

Punch me in that bitch and I'mma tell you, I'll start dressing different. I don't give a shit. I quit one of our jobs for giving up a motherfucking housing lottery. Because $900 for an apartment that's 4800.

[Weezy]

Put me in it.

[Mandy B]

Literally. I'll do my own repairs. I'll be the plumber.

[Lacy Mosley]

Not you, the super. You show up with a plunger.

[Mandy B]

I have a W2 from one of my jobs, so I can't get in it, but I literally think every day, like, I will say, four this shit. I'm done. If they call me and I get in, I'm quitting.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my gosh. Well, you kind of low key. Have to, like. If they call you, it doesn't matter if your lease is about to be up or wherever you're staying. You have to drop everything.

[Weezy]

No, you have to break your lease if you're in a lease to go there.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's wild.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

I feel like you're not alone in that. Like, that's a New York fantasy. It's like a New York.

[Weezy]

I want a lottery apartment.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God.

[Lacy Mosley]

So in Slack messages, Stephanie and Nathan told their staff to dismiss smaller loan applications with phrases like delete them and who fucking cares? And they go elsewhere. Who fucking cares? We're not the first bank to decline borrowers who deserve to be funded. They go elsewhere, bitch.

[Mandy B]

Okay, okay, Steph.

[Lacy Mosley]

Now she said, you too broke. You borrowing too little.

[Weezy]

You think she said she wanted bigger, bigger borrowers.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. So she in the Slack saying, who fucking cares? Delete them. She said.

[Weezy]

She said they're peasants, literally. Get these peasants out of here.

[Lacy Mosley]

We gotta steal faster than that. We're not stealing fast enough with them. Tell them to go home. So in one message, Stephanie said, closing these monster loans will get everyone paid. In another, she referred to a $1.9 million loan as a deal. She wrote, I don't need to tell y' all how much Blue Acorn makes off that loan alone. Like, these are not deals. Like, these are loans.

[Weezy]

These are loans that should be repaid.

[Lacy Mosley]

And you're also, like, just faking paperwork for people. Now you're calling it deals.

[Mandy B]

But I Wonder if they never thought their hands were dirty because they weren't taking out the loans.

[Weezy]

If you're making making up bake statements.

[Mandy B]

If you're also buying documents, maybe they thought, nabra, oh, someone else is going to get caught with this, not us.

[Weezy]

You're faking. You're making all the fake documents.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, but they don't have your name on them, though.

[Weezy]

You are the company creating the fake documents. It's the same thing why all those nurses in New York got locked up during COVID Then we put a scam, right? The people carrying the fake COVID vaccine cards weren't the ones that went to jail. It was the people falsifying the fake.

[Mandy B]

Vaccine cards that was down a stack of COVID cards. I forgot where I was. Oh. Oh. I was on the fucking subway. I was waiting at the, like, you know, the little brown.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

So it wasn't on the subway. It was. Anyway, I'm sitting down and I'm looking at it and I'm like, is that like 40 of them? So then I'm looking around. Cause I'm like, nigga, do I sell them?

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, right? Are we slaves?

[Weezy]

No, no. Let's be very clear. This is how we know our government is a crock of shit, right? There is no other document ever that was accepted as a handwritten doc. Like, it was on a fucking.

[Lacy Mosley]

Listen, girl didn't have enough time, okay? I don't. Like, I had to fill in my second Covid shot on my thing. And it wasn't because I didn't actually get it. I'm not anti jab. I got my jabbed up, but I was like, jab me some more. But some more. So I was like. I got asked about, I need to be a first in line. And then.

[Weezy]

And then they was like, asking, I love hookah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Put me in the listen.

[Weezy]

They were like, you finna become a. A zombie? And I said, that's fine. I ain't gonna try to outrun them.

[Mandy B]

When they were like, thinking that if you put the Q tip deeper, it was like a better result.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Oh, my God. I had my brain scrambled. Like, never teach you. They was all up in my shit.

[Mandy B]

Like, I had to get one to go back into the U.S. i remember I was in Mexico and my boyfriend came out and he was like, ooh. Like, I remember hearing him and I was like, oh, shit. I going in there. So now I went in and I'm like, all right. I was negative when I got here, so I'm trying to, like, negotiate with lady, please, I'll give you. I'll give you $100. Like, please. I was so terrified that I would start bleeding. And I just remember it was two of them holding me down. Two, Damn. Because I was terrified, but I needed to get. I was in the airport, bruh. You remember how hot it was going? And all I remember is, uno, dos, tres.

[Lacy Mosley]

I was like. Everybody was like.

[Mandy B]

There was kids scared. Because, I mean, grandpa see me.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, they crazy.

[Mandy B]

You should see me.

[Lacy Mosley]

They should not be holding you down for anything in the airport. So in one text message, she's. Stephanie blamed one loan rejection on her husband's failure to forge a schedule C tax form. That's because Nathan is terrible at Photoshop. So she blamed, like, this not getting done on her man. She was like, my man's is not good at Photoshop. And that's why your loan got rejected. Sorry. A queen. Honestly, like, rob your man, blame things on your man. Like, that's what your man is for. So Stephanie have Canva, I think. Yeah. This is a now times. Like, there's Canva. There's so many options.

[Mandy B]

Too much access.

[Weezy]

You can literally do it on your phone now. Like, I'm confused.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can take it to make y' all a COVID test right now.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. So Stephanie's devices contained original and altered versions of 1099 forms, one of which was fraudulently increased from 57,000 to 157,000 to qualify a borrower for a larger PPP loan. So they were like, oh, you actually have this money?

[Weezy]

Just said, let me add a one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, just add a little one. Look, I'm not. I'm just giving your application a little riz, okay? Like, it's like a dating profile, but for money. I'm trying to get you with all the likes, okay? You gotta take this picture of you holding the fish up off the page, okay? We don't wanna talk about pineapples on pizza. I'm trying to make you sexy. Okay? Sexy for loans. So Stephanie and Nathan fabricated documents, as we know, but they also did it for themselves, too. And they applied for hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans for which they were not. Not eligible.

[Weezy]

Clearly.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay? They said, if you can dream it.

[Mandy B]

You can do it.

[Lacy Mosley]

So they got over $300,000 in Paycheck Protection loans for themselves. On one application, Nate claimed that he was a veteran and black.

[Weezy]

Oh, no, he didn't do that. Okay, now I know he's racist. He did not.

[Mandy B]

He did dei. You'll get whatever you Need. I don't give a shit.

[Weezy]

He did not call me Jamal. You know why he did that? He says right now, black lives matter. Matter.

[Lacy Mosley]

So he was like all this woke nonsense, the woke media.

[Weezy]

He said, I'm black.

[Lacy Mosley]

He was right. He was like, the deis are getting all the loans. I bet you he didn't even write a black on the application. He wrote they were like race and ethnicity. He was like, D E, I. I'm a D. I'm a woke.

[Weezy]

I'm tell you right now, I'm not going to lie.

[Mandy B]

I don't know. If this photo was while they were rich, that watch would have been looking different for me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, that watch ain't. Ain't quite it. But maybe he was trying to do quiet luxury. I mean, when you a black man and a veteran. But you really gotta keep it a low profile, bruh.

[Mandy B]

This is a good point.

[Weezy]

You know what? However, however, we have to justify what we think about these motherfuckers.

[Mandy B]

I hate em.

[Weezy]

They deserve all the years they're about to get just because of this fact right here.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I'm so sorry.

[Lacy Mosley]

Just the fact that Nate was claiming that he was black. Like, wait, you stolen valor. And why you gotta be black? Why? Why are we in it?

[Weezy]

Why?

[Lacy Mosley]

Why? And also, you should have known they was gonna pick your ass up fast to say you was black on some damn PPB lines.

[Weezy]

That's probably what got you caught looking.

[Lacy Mosley]

For the black people.

[Weezy]

That's what got you caught.

[Mandy B]

Hey, that was another black person. It wasn't me, right?

[Weezy]

He said baby blue got caught. And Nathan was right after that.

[Lacy Mosley]

Maybe he thought if the fed slid, he would be like, do I look like a black veteran? Do I? Clearly y' all at the wrong house.

[Mandy B]

I don't even like him. You see, they don't work for black people.

[Lacy Mosley]

I don't even have. I don't have them work for me. That's funny. Shit.

[Weezy]

Wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh my gosh. So in another application, this is Nate again, the out of pocket husband. He claimed to be an independent contractor in his wife's business. But documentation obtained by a congressional committee shows he was never paid by that company. Okay, he was. He was white when he did that. Um, so Stephanie and Nathan both answered no to a question about whether they owned other businesses or multiple PPP loan applications for multiple businesses. In messages to her dad, Stephanie coached him on how to apply for three PPP loans. And she told him, come up with a side job you did for extra cash, like independent consultant, Uber driver. She thought her parents would receive $60,000 in free money. Her dad eventually got free $500 in PPP loans. Get the fuck out of here.

[Weezy]

Well, at least they were taking care of the family. At least they were taking care of the family.

[Mandy B]

Okay, but if that's why drug dealers give the hood, like money back to the hood.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes, but see, okay, but that's to me, giving back to the hood, like, with the profits, then it's like, I'm not making you an accomplice in a crime. Like, she could have been doing the crime and then just been like, oh, dad, crime is going great. I just wanted to slide you a little bit. No, don't have.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I think they didn't.

[Lacy Mosley]

Don't instruct your dad how to do fraud. And now he's implicated. You could have just broke him off some.

[Mandy B]

I think parents be down. I'm telling you right now. If I called my mom and said, hey, somebody from the tax office about to call you. I need you to say you live with me, she'd be like, okay, yeah, for sure. My mom down.

[Lacy Mosley]

How long have I lived with you?

[Mandy B]

Let's. You want to do it right now, right? You want to do it? Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Wait, wait.

[Weezy]

She's about to call her mom and see if her mom.

[Lacy Mosley]

We're going to speak her mom of a scam? Yes.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. Wait, let me see. Hey, comma. Somebody's about to call you to verify my income. You need to make sure you live with. Say you live with me.

[Weezy]

That's not much of a scam. I thought you were going to say something more scammy.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. Just start asking her random questions. We can't call her for my number. I just been live.

[Weezy]

Oh, give her the number.

[Mandy B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Lacy Mosley]

We got a call for. Oh, my gosh. We are literally live breaking.

[Mandy B]

Wait, wait. And I'll be like, did you see my text?

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy B]

She like, she works at T Mobile, right? Just start saying, my mom is about to be like, what? Actually cold. Calling her might be even better.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, now I'm sure.

[Mandy B]

My name's Gila. She ain't answering.

[Weezy]

She probably napping.

[Mandy B]

She just texted me.

[Lacy Mosley]

Look, we tried.

[Mandy B]

So this is how I know my mom, dad.

[Lacy Mosley]

But I know she.

[Mandy B]

She would do it because one of my homegirls and I prank called my mom when I was in high school. She was like, hey, we just want you to know, like, she got suspended because she was talking back and doing this. Not my child. You got the wrong girl. No, she wasn't. She Was like, I'm telling you right now, she was passing notes in class saying bad stuff. Somebody else did it, because it wasn't my fucking child. And the next time you want to play on my phone, da da. I mean, it was going off, and I was like, damn, I really am bad. So I don't even know why she took up for me like this.

[Lacy Mosley]

No. Because she got to stand on business.

[Mandy B]

Hello?

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. We are a united front. And then when we get behind closed doors, things get a little dicey. That's when.

[Weezy]

Very much so.

[Mandy B]

Exactly.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's when we like, why you taking me down? Why I gotta get off work early to come down to the schoolhouse? Cause you out there showing your motherfucking ass.

[Mandy B]

Hold on.

[Weezy]

My mom.

[Mandy B]

Just reply. Okay, got it.

[Lacy Mosley]

So they get a real one.

[Weezy]

Hello? A real one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Her mom is calling me back. Hi, I have a reference down here for. For Kayla. Joel.

[Mandy B]

This is Joel.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Yes. So I have a application in front of me with Keela. She's your daughter, correct?

[Mandy B]

Correct.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

So we were just verifying her living situation and income. She works at T Mobile.

[Mandy B]

Yes. Okay. She has a lot of businesses.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Yeah, we just have to assess some finances and collateral and things like that and payment history and things like that. She also said that YouTube live together.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

How long have you two been living together?

[Mandy B]

My husband is in a nursing home.

[Lacy Mosley]

So about eight years. Eight years. Okay, that's perfect. That's. That's exactly what she wrote. Okay, awesome. Thank you. Excellent credit.

[Mandy B]

I don't understand.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, she said she has excellent credit.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I know she does.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, okay. You said, well, mom, this was her scam, and you told.

[Mandy B]

I had a bunch of businesses to know.

[Lacy Mosley]

Mom, I'm here.

[Mandy B]

Mom. Now it's not.

[Lacy Mosley]

Hold on, mom.

[Mandy B]

We need to clarify this. Wait, so if somebody calls you and I'm trying to get along, why would you say she. She has a bunch of businesses on.

[Weezy]

Top of working at T Mobile?

[Lacy Mosley]

That wasn't T Mobile. Doesn't sound like a L, Mom.

[Mandy B]

That wasn't a good lie. I wasn't trying to lie.

[Lacy Mosley]

You did.

[Weezy]

We did, though. Y' all ain't live together for eight years.

[Mandy B]

You said.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ooh.

[Mandy B]

You were really trying to think how long it was.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, honestly, though, she convinced me. She convinced me so much that y' all lived together eight years. I started writing down eight.

[Mandy B]

No, that was good. Okay. You passed the test, Mom. Bye. I wonder what your mama would do.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mandy B]

That is hilarious.

[Lacy Mosley]

You got a real one.

[Mandy B]

You got a real one. Now she Bringing up the nursing home to get. And now it's true. But you see, she was trying to pull it a hardship. My husband in the nursing home, she asked me on her.

[Lacy Mosley]

She was giving me extra information. Cuz she was saying, t mobile. She was like, well, she has a lot of business. And I know she got good credit. Cause I know. Cause I know she was about to get you that loan. She was gonna get you that loan, bitch. Cuz you know what?

[Mandy B]

Every time my mama see I'm about to get some money, she be like, damn, what are we gonna do with this?

[Lacy Mosley]

Right? Oh, my God, I can't wait to.

[Mandy B]

See what vacation we going. Girl, the second we became New York Times bestseller, my mom said, how much extra do you medicate? Nothing, girl.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love it. So we're getting to the end of this story. I can't. Mom calling me. And she was really standing on sly business. It was quick with him.

[Weezy]

Real quick.

[Lacy Mosley]

The only one. Only one where I was like, how long you live together? She got a little tripped up for a second, was like, ah, let me clear my throat.

[Weezy]

Let me see.

[Lacy Mosley]

But then she came back with a strong lie. Number eight is a very good lie.

[Mandy B]

Number eight is a lot.

[Lacy Mosley]

Ten feels too round. Five feels a little made up. Eight feels a little.

[Weezy]

We've been in this.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, we've been in this. And she kind of gave me a.

[Weezy]

Little lore with it.

[Lacy Mosley]

It's like, are y' all enjoying living together?

[Mandy B]

No, no, she wrong for the shit.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, my sick has a listen. Talent. Talent. I see where it comes from. Okay, thank you. Talent. So living it up. According to public records, Stephanie and Nathan left Blue Acorn. That was their loan company that they made up and relocated to San Juan, Puerto Rico.

[Mandy B]

I know they did.

[Lacy Mosley]

Which has no capital gains tax in 2021. Now, see, that's what I'm talking about. If you gonna steal a bunch, you need to leave town now. Unfortunately, no, bitch. But are we U.S. territory? That's still a U.S. territory.

[Mandy B]

You know when white women wear baseball caps like this with some kind of inscription, you're like, oh, country club wealth.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yep. And they might be on the run, apparently.

[Weezy]

Well, she is drinking her whispering angel with a straw.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay, you know what? You need a bottle of wine with a straw when you're living like this, okay? It's stressful. Okay.

[Mandy B]

Damn.

[Weezy]

They moved to Puerto Rico.

[Lacy Mosley]

Look, they so on the run. She ain't got time for cups, okay? You can't run with a glass in your hands.

[Mandy B]

They so on the run.

[Lacy Mosley]

Bottle and a straw. Okay, we can't. We got time to pour the shit. Cause we can't stay that long. And I.

[Weezy]

You could tell they weren't friends with already wealthy people because nobody would have advised them to go to Puerto Rico.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, you know, she was probably like a part of the Arizona elite, because she was the Arizona elite.

[Mandy B]

Elite.

[Weezy]

The Arizona elite is crazy.

[Lacy Mosley]

Sorry. If you live in Arizona, y' all can be elite. Y' all can have y' all housewives, y' all rock parties of the Rock Garden. Y' all don't have lines, right? Anyways, but yeah, the Arizona elite. Cause you know, she on the news, she on tv, so she was probably hobnobbing and schmoozing, so. But you're right. The hat is giving. It's giving something. And it's not a recession indicator for sure. But, baby, y' all shouldn't have gone to San Juan. That's still in America. Leave ustados unidos.

[Weezy]

That's crazy, bruh.

[Lacy Mosley]

They didn't tell y' all we colonized that. You got to go a little further. So they filmed a video showing off amounts of cash in a bar and on the balcony of a luxury beachfront apartment. So I don't know if I would call that a baby luxury.

[Mandy B]

That ain't that much.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I guess this is large amount of cash in, like, white people perspective. Because, like, honey phone.

[Weezy]

I've seen men with larger.

[Mandy B]

I'm putting it up to my face and taking fake phone calls, and I'm.

[Lacy Mosley]

Seeing some, like, dollar bills like, yeah.

[Weezy]

This looks like a one.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Where are the blue.

[Weezy]

It don't look blue enough.

[Mandy B]

It also don't look flat. It looks kind of used.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, I don't want that money. Trash rob a stripper. It's given the stripper was getting the money. You was on the ground scraping it up real fast before security caught you. That's what it's given. Nah, you went to Ace of Diamonds and you started sweeping up the floor like this ain't happening. How they got caught so well, when Nathan started a new company, a lending service, it was a consultancy named Lender Service Consultants, llc. I mean, structure to the point. We Lender service. We consultants. I'm here for it. The address for the company is a three story luxury apartment that sold for $2.3 million in 2020 and features a plunge pool and two koi ponds. Okay, this sounds great.

[Mandy B]

I love a koi.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love a fish for opulence. So Stephanie posted a photo of herself in a bathtub holding stacks of Money to her ear. Oh, she did the money phone.

[Weezy]

Of course she did.

[Lacy Mosley]

The photo isn't publicly available, which is heartbreaking, but it was not Stephanie. A nigga at her trial.

[Mandy B]

What we doing? I ain't never say.

[Lacy Mosley]

People just say, who calling me? They better not be, bro. Who's calling my. Who's calling that?

[Mandy B]

She.

[Lacy Mosley]

That's what she probably put on it. I mean, this is so damn recent. She might have had some idea about who called the Fed. It's like, it's the Feds. It's the F, the B and the I.

[Weezy]

We the B and the I.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Weezy]

And probably the C, the I and.

[Lacy Mosley]

The A to the C. The I, the R, and the S. Would also like a word.

[Weezy]

All of the Alphabet.

[Mandy B]

You did a ppp. You getting other acronyms.

[Lacy Mosley]

All the acronyms coming at you. All the acronyms of the slide to your home. Okay, you about to have usps, everything, like, everybody named Mama. Okay, dmv, they coming too.

[Weezy]

Everybody.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Don't scam with them acronyms. But at Stephanie's trial in June, prosecutors said she once described the PPP program as $100 billion of free money.

[Weezy]

What?

[Mandy B]

Wow.

[Weezy]

Is that what she thought?

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Weezy]

Money is now.

[Mandy B]

I don't know.

[Lacy Mosley]

I want to live in this mindset. I feel like I've been thinking, money costs money for so long or time or energy or blood, sweat, and tears. But I want to be more on Stephanie's vibe of, like, money is free. Give me.

[Mandy B]

Give it to me. And no whole vard. We did strange things for change. If you read that book, you gonna be like, oh, money really ain't free.

[Weezy]

Money is never free. Especially when it's a loan or helping for relief.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah, whenever they say relief, they do expect you to get relief. Like, this wasn't good. And then when you rel, you gotta pay with a fee. They like, okay, now go ahead and run it on me.

[Weezy]

That's what they called a grant.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, it was not called a grant. Shit. Even unemployment. I once got unemployment from a place that, like, wrongfully terminated me. And it was so wonderful. Cause the job I had worked before that I made way more money. And so they had to pay me what I had been making that whole year.

[Mandy B]

Wow.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I remember, like, after I got off, I got my first, like, series regular acting role while I was on unemployment. So I was like, thank God for this firing. But when I got off of unemployment and I was no longer needing the relief, and I was relieved.

[Weezy]

Oh, you still got to pay taxes on unemployment.

[Lacy Mosley]

Was like, oh, Actually, we gave you too much. And actually, you need to pay taxes on that money that we took out of your taxes so that you had a safety net if you weren't working. But we do need the taxes.

[Mandy B]

This is a real thing. There's a girl I want to hire that currently works at Orange Theory, and she was like, well, I only can give you two classes a week until I'm finished paying off my debt with them. So I'm thinking she robbed Orange Theory. She said they overpaid her, her hours, hourly rate. She thought she got a raise two years ago. She now has to pay them back by working until it's off. I said, well, how many?

[Weezy]

How.

[Mandy B]

How much is it?

[Lacy Mosley]

Homegirl is a serf.

[Mandy B]

$18,000.

[Lacy Mosley]

You are.

[Mandy B]

No, they were paying her, like, 40 more per class. That's.

[Lacy Mosley]

That sounds like a whole problem.

[Weezy]

That's your bet. That's your bet.

[Lacy Mosley]

No, like, what do you mean? Now I'm a slave?

[Mandy B]

Have you talked to a lawyer? And she's like, apparently, like, whatever I signed, if they mistakenly pay me, if I. I didn't fix it. Yeah, okay.

[Lacy Mosley]

See, I've heard of banks. Like, if they accidentally deposit money into your account that's not yours, if you spend it, they will be on your ass. Like, I'm leaving the country.

[Weezy]

Depending on how much money goes into my account. Fuck that.

[Mandy B]

You paid 100 a class, and now you get 140. I ain't saying shit.

[Weezy]

The podcast will be recorded virtually. Moving forward, I now live across the pod. Okay.

[Mandy B]

You gonna see me in Thailand.

[Lacy Mosley]

Always in the shadows. And her voice is altered.

[Mandy B]

That zoom background, that's not.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. No, it's always a zoom background, but it's just looking. Not like a location anymore that. Listen, it's always like a movie title behind it.

[Weezy]

She said, I thought this $100 billion was free. That's crazy.

[Mandy B]

No, but you have to pay. You have to pay shit like that back, man.

[Lacy Mosley]

I love the confidence, though, of, like, just going through life thinking that money could be free. And, you know, I want a little bit of that for me.

[Weezy]

So if this just happened in June, we don't know sentencing.

[Lacy Mosley]

Anything else? Well, so she was found guilty on one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and not guilty of four other counts. Nathan's trial is scheduled for August, where he faces similar charges.

[Mandy B]

Is she in jail?

[Weezy]

She only got one out of four.

[Mandy B]

Because she fucking gave them the rest of their money. She paid somebody off. Bitch. I'm going to haunt the jury.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, we do a tampering.

[Weezy]

Someone got paid off, we gotta do some tampering. Cause they made a billion dollars. Like, they got the money, they paid somebody else.

[Mandy B]

That whispering angel, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

Purr. Okay. She was like, y' all all get some whispering angel. Yes. I mean, I last year. I want white people.

[Weezy]

If you do the crime, do not do the time, damn it. And this is what I'm saying what sucks about really America. The fact of the matter is you have to bust your ass to become rich. Because if you become rich, you no longer have to follow the law Laws.

[Lacy Mosley]

No longer suggestions melting.

[Weezy]

It's literally. What the fuck. Like, bro, look at our president is literally a felon for sure. It doesn't matter. Once you have money, nothing matters.

[Mandy B]

No.

[Lacy Mosley]

And what's wild to me is that we know that. But Pretty Ricky, not Pretty Ricky. I keep wanting to say pretty blue baby, but baby blue out of Pretty Ricky. He had to go to the clink.

[Weezy]

He did. He got out. And now they're on the millennium. Like, they're back touring, you know what?

[Lacy Mosley]

And I.

[Mandy B]

That's all we gonna do when we get out. I better get out of jail to a job.

[Lacy Mosley]

He better run. Run to the stage, put the bag all the way. That part grind on me. You better be out there.

[Mandy B]

I would literally, I would buy a ticket over and over. I'm going to help my n get out, right?

[Lacy Mosley]

Get out the wood. Put them lambos back, sir. I mean, we'll see what sentencing that they get. But this is still a fresh story, so we don't know how much time they're going to be doing. If anytime ever.

[Mandy B]

Bring us back for the recap.

[Lacy Mosley]

But low key, like, I mean, they just took advantage of the situation, but they got real corporate with it.

[Mandy B]

Like that white collar should be hitting it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Be hitting his different.

[Weezy]

I hate it. I hate it.

[Lacy Mosley]

Well, thank you both so much for joining me. What a wild ride. And for bringing your mother.

[Mandy B]

My mom has probably got so many scam stories, she's literally never had a job. She's been a housewife her entire life.

[Lacy Mosley]

Love that for her. Need that forever.

[Mandy B]

Jewel, what did you do when you were young? I had a boyfriend and a husband. I. I didn't have to do much.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God. Jewel's like one of those people that. Have you ever seen those Tik Tok videos where it's like a really rich.

[Mandy B]

Woman getting out of like a very.

[Lacy Mosley]

Expensive car and they're like, oh, what do you do for living? Or like, what do you do for work? And she was like, work. That's my mother, like, confused and got in her car.

[Weezy]

You also got to be careful. Now. Those are. They're doing those with AI.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh.

[Weezy]

So a lot of those videos, I.

[Lacy Mosley]

Gotta count the fingers.

[Weezy]

They're literally not. Well, they've gotten better with the fingers. But a lot of those videos now, like the man on the street stuff or that stuff is all man on the street. It's all AI. It's AI now. Yeah. Look like he knows. Damn.

[Lacy Mosley]

AI is really like, let us do your joy for you.

[Weezy]

Listen, the influencer. There was one girl. I only knew it was a. I saved the video and I was like, oh, this is cool. She, like, slurped a whole chicken wing and it was gone.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, man. I saw the one with the black girl that was eating the mukbang with the shrimp and lobsters and stuff, and just. It came out of nowhere. And the butter came out of nowhere into her hand.

[Weezy]

It's AI. It's AI. I was like, are you serious? There were two girls doing a mukbang and I thought it was real until literally the crab leg turned into a champagne glass.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Weezy]

And I was like, oh, this is AI.

[Mandy B]

Her hands turned into butter.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I was like, wait a minute.

[Weezy]

Yeah, like, hands don't be butter. There's so many of them now. It's crazy.

[Mandy B]

It's not on my feed.

[Lacy Mosley]

Let's keep it that way. Let's keep it that way. It is absolutely terrifying, though. But where would you all like to be found? Anything. People can tune into your social media, all of those things.

[Mandy B]

Every single Monday. We do decisions, decisions. If you've heard of us before, you may have heard from our podcast, Horrible Decisions. It's not on Patreon, but go and support the book. No holes barred. It's the most exciting thing that we're promoting right now. We are New York Times bestsellers. We would love to be back on the list. So come and support us. It's a very good book. I would suggest this book to anybody that wants to have something in their hands that's erotica and self help. It's a phenomenal book. Check it out.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes. Okay. And then.

[Mandy B]

And check out your cousin.

[Lacy Mosley]

Oh, my God.

[Weezy]

I mean, she said all the things we're doing now. And if you want to follow us, we are going to bookstores, signing our New York Times bestselling book. And so one more time, it was.

[Lacy Mosley]

On the New York Times bestseller Listening. New York Times. Yeah.

[Weezy]

The best selling New York. New York Times. The New York Times.

[Lacy Mosley]

What time it was. It was time for New York.

[Weezy]

It was time for New York, you know, Period.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yeah. Just in case, y'. All. Because y' all need to know. No, that's, like, big time.

[Mandy B]

No, it's so proud of.

[Lacy Mosley]

Yes.

[Weezy]

Of authors. Like, yeah. It's like. It's really. It's. It's the Grammys for authors.

[Lacy Mosley]

And you did a thing. And we did it, period. Clarkett.

[Mandy B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Weezy]

Thank you both for being here.

[Lacy Mosley]

Like, I loved horrible decisions. I'm so excited to meet both of you. And this has been a revelation. I feel like I'm gonna have to call my cousin now. I'm gonna call Eric. But yes, as always, y', all, you can see all of these photos. You gotta go look at Stephanie. She was a baddie. Y' all gotta look at Stephanie. She was a baddie. You'll never rem. But you'll remember how she made you feel.

[Weezy]

Apparently. You gonna remember her rack. She's real fit.

[Mandy B]

The tits.

[Weezy]

She's a real fit queen. Just with the headshot.

[Lacy Mosley]

I won titty one time. And now you're the titty guy. Okay, you are. Now I'm Boobs McGee. Okay. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Now Eric isn't.

[Lacy Mosley]

But no, no, not a titty man. Him. Maybe a firmer titty, but yes, y' all gotta go see her. She's a real baddie that you could never kill. Or maybe in prison. We don't know yet.

[Weezy]

Right.

[Lacy Mosley]

You can see those on Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. You can follow us @ScamGoddessPod if you wanna chat with me on Twitter. I'm D I V A L A C I D B Lacy across all platforms. You can watch all of the episodes. My first season of Scam God is streaming now on Hulu. You can watch the first season of Going Dutch, also streaming now on Hulu. I'm going back to Ireland to have a good crack. So we will have season two, and then you can get my book, Scam Goddess. Y' all need to get it all sportless.

[Mandy B]

Hello.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Cause I did not make New York Times bestseller.

[Mandy B]

Let me go ahead.

[Lacy Mosley]

And I need y' all to put me on some more lists right now. I need to be on some listicles, period. Okay. Some thought pieces. Think pieces and whatnot. Okay. I'm sitting. I'm sitting next to the. The New York Times bestselling authors. I don't know. I'm gonna be breathing a little bit of the air. I'm gonna take y' all juju with me. This how I'm gonna get it.

[Mandy B]

But yes, I love your cover.

[Lacy Mosley]

Thank you. Anywhere you get books or you like to listen to books. Get the book.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Lacy Mosley]

And then y'. All. I. I haven't said this in years, but I just thought about this randomly. But like, if you listen to this on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen, like, subscribe, leave a positive comment, lift a queen.

[Weezy]

Period.

[Lacy Mosley]

Okay. Drag a hater.

[Mandy B]

All the comments can't be about how hot you are in lists.

[Lacy Mosley]

I mean, there are some, though. I'll be on some sexy lists. Yes. Talk about how sexy I am in the comments. Okay. And stream it with your baby in the other room on the iPad so we get it even more. You know, what we doing here? Okay, we know we're orchestrating one up them number, but yes, we scamming over here. We scamming over here always. Congregation, though, man, what a time to be alive with you two.

[Mandy B]

That was fun, Congregation.

[Lacy Mosley]

I really want y' all to get out there and. Ooh.

[Mandy B]

Mm.

[Lacy Mosley]

I want y' all to stay whispering like an angel.

[Mandy B]

Like an angel.

[Lacy Mosley]

You funny scam goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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