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Scamanda
Chapter 6 — High As Hell
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Detective Martinez and Nancy team up and bring the IRS into the fold, launching a federal investigation into Amanda.
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Kristen
What is Dax?
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Ryan Reynolds
Are you tracking all our cars on Carvana Value Tracker on all our devices? Yes, Kristen, yes, I am.
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Kristen
Well, I've been looking for my phone for.
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Ryan Reynolds
In Dax's domain, we see all. So we always know what our cars are worth.
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Kristen
All of them?
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Ryan Reynolds
All of them. Value surge trucks up 3.9%.
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Kristen
That's a great offer.
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Ryan Reynolds
I know. Sell.
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Charlie Webster
Sell.
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Ryan Reynolds
Track your car's value with Carvana Value Tracker today. Dear old work platform, it's not you, it's us. Actually, it is you. Endless onboarding, constant IT bottlenecks. We've had enough. We need a platform that just gets us. And to be honest, we've met someone new. They're called Monday.com and it was love at first onboarding. Their beautiful dashboards, their customizable workflows got us floating on a digital cloud nine.
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Freddie Wong
So no hard feelings, but we're moving on Monday.com, the first work platform you'll love to use.
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Ryan Reynolds
Hey, I'm Ryan Reynolds.
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Amanda Riley
Recently, I asked Mint Mobile's legal team.
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Ryan Reynolds
If big wireless companies are allowed to raise prices due to inflation.
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Kristen
They said yes.
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Amanda Riley
And then when I asked if raising prices technically violates those onerous two year.
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Ryan Reynolds
Contracts, they said, what the are you talking about?
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Amanda Riley
You insane Hollywood.
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Ryan Reynolds
So to recap, we're cutting the price.
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Kristen
Of mint unlimited from $30 a month to just $15 a month.
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Ryan Reynolds
Give it a try@mintmobile.com switch.
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Arlette Lee
$45 upfront payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three month plan only. Taxes and fees. Extra Speed slower above 40GB.
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Kristen
Details.
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Freddie Wong
Hi, this is Freddie Wong from Dungeons and Daddies, and this episode is sponsored by Rocket Money. Houston. Houston, we have a problem, and that's too many subscriptions that I don't know about because I like to put my credit card number into sites just for the sheer thrill of it. That's the fundamental problem of the Internet and money. And Rocket Money is here to solve that. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills. You can see all those subscriptions that you've accrued over a lifetime of putting your credit card in on the Internet in one place. If you don't want them, just cancel them with a few taps. Rocket Money can help with that. Rocket Money's over 5 million users and has saved a total of $500 million in canceled subscriptions, saving members up to $740 a year when using all the app's premium features. Stop wasting money on things you don't use Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com cancelsubs. That's rocketmoney.com cancelsubs, not submarines.
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Charlie Webster
Hey Scamander fans. Charlie here. I've got something big you won't want to miss. If you loved the podcast, then mark your calendars because here comes Scamander, the docu series starting tonight at 9:00pm 8 Central Time on ABC and then also streaming on Hulu. Watch for yourself as every step plays out and see firsthand how Amanda Riley's world spirals down and out of control. The lies, the betrayals, the investigation, the police and some of the people closest to Amanda Riley share their stunning and emotional stories tonight at 9:00pm 8 Central on ABC. This amazing new series will be taking an even deeper dive into the notorious con artist and I promise you, you will be on the edge of your seat with jaw dropping twists, turns and shocking revelations. Trust me, you won't be able to look away. So make sure to watch the Shocking, an incredible new docu series on ABC and Hulu. If you love the podcast, you are just going to love this. Grab your popcorn, set that reminder and tune in starting tonight, January 30th to what will sure be pure primetime drama. Believe me, you don't want to be the only one not talking about this show. Scamander on ABC and streaming on Hulu. And it all starts tonight, January 30th at 9pm 8 Central. Watch this people. It's too good. You ready for the ride? Let's go. Amanda's journey so far has been more than four years long, with more than four cancer relapses. Most people were as supportive as they could be, donating gift cards, classes, time, babysitting tips, and cold hard cash. But not everyone was on board the support Amanda train.
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Amanda Riley
You really learn who's there for you when you have nothing else to give. Although it hurt when some friends and even family haven't really shown support, the amount of people following and back my story is something I couldn't have even fathomed before cancer. Thank you. You are TeamAmanda.
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Charlie Webster
Amanda's blogs had gotten into the head of investigative producer Nancy and she just couldn't let it go. Even as those close to her became concerned about how obsessed she was. Nancy wasn't the only one who was suspicious though. Detective Martinez of San Jose police joined the slowly growing team.
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Ryan Reynolds
Nancy, I was talking to Amanda. Her response was not consistent with what was happening. It was fake concern like, oh my God, are the kids gonna make it to School, Okay.
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Charlie Webster
Amanda had found out about Nancy and she wasn't going to let some faceless investigative producer ruin her life from the comfort of a laptop.
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Kristen
I was getting the mail out of my mailbox and I opened it up and it's just stuffed with paper. I'm looking through it and I'm like, what is this? And I see the name Amanda Riley. I see Nancy Muscatello. I'm like, what is this? I see restraining order, civil harassment. And my mind is catching up to what I'm reading and putting it together. Like, oh, my God. She was taking me to court for a restraining order.
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Charlie Webster
Amanda had some good news. She was going back to full time work for the first time in four years.
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Amanda Riley
I'm happy to announce that this Monday. I'm a middle school teacher, and she.
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Charlie Webster
Wasn'T going to let Nancy get in the way of it. I'm Charlie Webster. You're listening to Scamander. There was somebody else questioning Amanda in her very own home.
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Amanda Riley
When I lived with my dad, I just kind of had to follow everything they did. I had to be Perfect.
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Charlie Webster
Jessa, the 13 year old bonus daughter.
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Amanda Riley
I remember Amanda saying she was in pain and she just didn't feel good. She would stay in her bed all day. She couldn't, couldn't get out of bed.
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Charlie Webster
What would you do?
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Amanda Riley
Go to school, handle all my responsibilities and all my after school stuff. I took a big part in taking care of my little brothers, too, at home.
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Charlie Webster
What else did you have to do?
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Amanda Riley
Most of my job as their babysitter was just. Just being there with them from like the time I got home from school to the time I had to go to sleep. And I was the one there with them all the time. Amanda was always upstairs in her bed. My dad was always doing something else, working out. I don't know what he was doing, but I was the one taking care of him most of the time. It was really stressful. They'd always put a lot of pressure on me to exceed school and do really well with my athletic activities and everything. And then I had to come home and take care of the kids. And it was a lot of pressure. It was a lot of pressure.
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Charlie Webster
After finding the IV in her brother's room, Jessa started to put two and two together.
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Amanda Riley
I told my mom about the IV thing and I told her, I don't see Amanda, like go to appointments anymore. My dad doesn't go to appointments with her anymore. I don't even know where she goes. And my mom then told me that there Was an investigation going on and that Amanda didn't have cancer.
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Arlette Lee
When she sat down and she told me, why did I find the iv? I found an iv. She was talking about the iv. And then she started asking me about her dad not going to chemo appointments. Basically, this kid was telling me, things aren't adding up right. So I had to tell her.
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Charlie Webster
Why didn't you tell her before?
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Arlette Lee
I guess to try to protect her as long as possible. The kid was just too damn smart. She knew she put it together fairly quickly. I really didn't have to keep it from her very long. At the same time, it was still an investigation. Even though I knew it was true. I needed proof to prove anything in court.
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Kristen
Right.
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Arlette Lee
But even though we had people for the court system to talk to, and the people in the court system to talk to, they still didn't do anything.
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Charlie Webster
What was it like for you to hear that?
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Amanda Riley
It was really hard. It was life changing. I believed for so many years that she was sick. I'd been told that she didn't have that long to live. My emotions were just toyed with. Pretty much she was fooling all those people. And then, like, having to go back home with my dad and just kind of sit there knowing that that was going on was really hard. My mom had, I think it was weekly visitation, and we had, like, two hours in a parking lot somewhere to sit in the car and talk. So I lived with my dad and Amanda for quite a while. Knowing that she didn't have cancer. I wasn't able to do anything, but it felt like me and my family were living a lie. Because it seemed that everything was based around Amanda being sick. And that's how we were getting our money and our food and our Christmas gifts and my gymnastics lessons, my tennis lessons, everything like that. Everything that was going on in her life was based around Amanda's cancer.
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Charlie Webster
What do you mean by your gymnastic lessons and your tennis lessons?
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Amanda Riley
The instructors, I guess, felt sorry and donated those lessons to me.
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Charlie Webster
Did you ever feel like saying anything to your dad?
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Amanda Riley
I knew I couldn't. I knew that not only would it cause a lot of problems for me, but I knew I probably wouldn't be able to see my mom anymore. I knew he'd take it to court and say, she's telling Jess all these horrible things. And I didn't want that.
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Charlie Webster
What was your dad like during that time?
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Amanda Riley
I don't know how to describe it. He was very, I want to say, not himself, but I don't think I really know who he actually is as a person. He just kind of looked numb all the time. He knew he was doing something wrong.
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Ryan Reynolds
What was his behavior like?
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Amanda Riley
He was always taking us everywhere. He was always going to the gym with my dad. He'd always just kind of be like, oh, you know, Mandy's sick and we can't do this. And it kind of was with Amanda. Oh, I can't, because I'm sick. I can't do this. I can't do that because I'm sick. She always tries to put on a nice face in front of me. I think it's part of her trying to win my trust back or try to make me feel sorry for her, and I never did. I see right through who she is, and it wasn't going to happen. They would take us to the hospital almost to kind of prove that, oh, something's wrong with her. Low blood pressure, low blood counts, fainting fevers, illness, picc line infections mimicking heart attacks and everything else. You can think of five hospital stays and 32 doctor's appointments, lab visits this month alone. I just remember hearing that, oh, Amanda's really, really sick this time, and she's going to have, like, a big surgery or she had a big surgery. My dad was like, yeah, we should. We should go to the hospital and you guys can come visit her. So we did. It was really strange for me because I knew she didn't have cancer. I'm like, what are you telling the doctors? Like, what's the reason you're here? You know what I mean?
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Arlette Lee
Jessa had said she was really upset, and she asked me if she was going to get in trouble because she felt like because she was getting, you know, free this and free that. I mean, she thought she was going to get in trouble at one point. And I said, no, absolutely not. This is not because of you. This is because of what Amanda did.
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Charlie Webster
What Amanda was doing was getting the attention of Detective Martinez from the San Jose Police Department.
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Ryan Reynolds
I started talking to Amanda's attorney, and I ended up getting on the phone with him, and I said, this is a real simple case. It's so simple that it's complex. All I need to know is, does she or does she not have cancer? Do you know? He said, well, she told me she had cancer, and you've seen all of her social media. I said, again, do you know? And so that's when days following, he showed up to the police department with a note from the doctor saying something to the fact that she was in remission. Cancer. It was something Specific, because it's a doctor, and now it's a hospital name. And so I thought, this is easy. I'm going to contact the hospital. They actually have an investigative division in there. A lot of them are retired FBI directors. So I had to give this whole case spiel again. And they weren't 100% cooperative. They were kind of like, well, we'll accept your information, but we can't share with you what we're doing or what direction we're going to go in with this. Okay, but I just need to know whether or not this doctor knows that their name is attached to this communication, and this is him that made the statement. Can't you just say that? So then, you know, I send that down the rabbit hole.
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Charlie Webster
Detective Martinez showed us a letter with the doctor's header and signature stating that his patient, Amanda C. Reilly, was in remission from cancer.
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Ryan Reynolds
Having cases is kind of like, you know, the person in the circus that has all the little sticks, and they're spinning the plates on all the sticks, and they're holding two in their hands and one in their nose and one on their head, and they just keep spinning the plates before the plate wobbles off and falls off. That's what you're doing all day. You just keep spinning the plates. I just keep giving a little turn and keep it rolling. And so that was another little plate spin for me. I'll see what comes back from this. So I sent that one down the line. Then I got back on the horse, calling people again. As the blog continued and the information was continuing to come in. Nancy sharing with me, oh, she blogged again. She was here or she was there. She was out here on these dates or whatever. I said, okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna follow up with all these little pieces. That's what sent me down to my. The first break in the case.
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Kristen
I remember thinking, oh, Detective Martinez spoke to her. Oh, my God, this is great. She's gonna stuck. Because I really, at that point, I just wanted her to stop. It was really hard to look at what she was doing. And I just thought, oh, she's gonna stop. This is great. He's gonna. She's gonna, you know, shit her pants. And a detective from the police department she's now in contact with. It's gonna stop. He was like, no, Nancy, like, she. She's in too deep. I was like, nope, nope. Like, I would stop. I assumed this would be enough to kind of go, okay, we're done here. Like, I could, you know, I feel Like I could sleep better. And it was pretty soon after they were going back and forth that I think, to me, she took the biggest leap of claiming she was self injecting chemotherapy.
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Amanda Riley
One more blood test which cleared me to fly home. My doctor so graciously is going to let me self inject my next round of chemo. Yikes.
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Kristen
When I read that, I just remember like yelling something out like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Like, first of all, it's just so ridiculous that there's so many things wrong with that. It's like, no one's injecting chemotherapy. Have you ever known anybody to inject chemotherapy at their house? I mean, how much bolder could you get? And I just said, whoop, okay, she's going all the way.
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Charlie Webster
While it sounded ridiculous to Nancy that someone could self inject chemo at home, it turns out that it is possible to self inject chemo.
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Ryan Reynolds
I was calling to all these hospitals and I thought, I'm getting the same conversation with everybody. I would call in and I would talk to like a CEO or somebody in the upper management. And I thought, I'm going to change my formula here. I'm going to ask for a legal department. So City of Hope in Southern California put me through to their legal department.
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Kristen
In her blog, City of Hope was really crucial. She talked about it a lot. She had been seen by them because she was going to get a stem cell transplant there. So she had blogged about how she was going to be in that hospital for three or four months, that she had all her pre visits and in other documentation, Corey and her wrote to the ex wife Alida and said, we're moving to Southern California because getting stem cell treatment at City of Hope in.
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Charlie Webster
Cancer patients that have already done several rounds of chemotherapy and the cancer still persists. A stem cell transplant can be used as a way for doctors to give higher doses of radiation therapy or chemo. City of Hope is one of the world's largest and most successful stem cell transplant centers. Detective Martinez was hoping to get some information. In a phone call to City of Hope.
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Ryan Reynolds
I said, okay, here we go. I got maybe three minutes to sell this thing to somebody who's going to bite. By that time, I had told a story so many times that I had refined it down to this three minute presentation. So finally somebody gets on the line from the legal department. I said, before you hang up, because I've had a number of conversations with so many organizations. Just listen to me for just a minute, hear me out. And then you can make a decision, but hear me first. Let it sink in for just a second. And so I gave him this little quick spiel. There's this young lady. She's been saying she has cancer. She's been blogging. She's been collecting money from sites and going around across the states and still selling this. This whole thing. I said, now, she may very well be sick, but she cited your hospital as one of her stops.
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Amanda Riley
Stem cell and platelet harvesting has been scheduled finally, one in February and one in March. With City of Hope's research and technology, they can gather the stem cells with a low sedative and a machine rather than having to penetrate my hip bones for the marrow, which is incredible. Insurance has signed the dotted line.
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Ryan Reynolds
Finally, one of the places she stayed here. Is this the doctor? She said this is the medication she said she was given. I said, so this is not hipaa. Because if she's not a patient here, then there's no confidentiality. You're just saying yes or no, right? What's the liability? And if you're just saying yes or no. So I said, if you want, take a look at the blog, or I could send you a quick snippet of in an email. And it's not something that I put out. It's something she put out, right? So I'm just asking you to say yes or no. She was a patient or she wasn't. How hard is that? Right. And if you say, if you give me the truth, then I can pursue the truth, right? And I can get to the bottom of this. And. And if she's really faking, then I can pursue the truth from another end and maybe take this girl off the set so that she's not redirecting monies and services and resources that should go to somebody who truly has this illness.
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Charlie Webster
According to Amanda's mom, Peggy, the City of Hope procedure was a success. She sent an email around to friends and family to let them know and thank them for their help covering the costs.
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Amanda Riley
Friends and family.
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Arlette Lee
Amanda is doing well.
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Kristen
City of Hope successfully harvested some of her stem cells.
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Ryan Reynolds
She is tough, and the family is committed to doing whatever it takes.
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Kristen
Response to supportamanda.com the past six months has been a huge help in covering.
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Amanda Riley
The costs of her co pays, prescriptions, and deductibles.
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Ryan Reynolds
Thank you all and please revisit as you can.
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Charlie Webster
Detective Martinez was waiting for a call back from City of Hope to confirm Amanda was a patient there.
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Ryan Reynolds
I sent them the blog that Nancy had sent me. They took a while to get back to me like a week. So they gave me an email basically saying, no, she's not a patient. She's never been a patient. And that was from their legal department. And I got chills because I was finally, after all these calls or all these emails, this phone conversation, I have her. I know she's a fraudster. Now.
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Kristen
What is Dax, are you tracking all.
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Ryan Reynolds
Our cars on Carvana Value Tracker on all our devices? Yes, Kristen, Yes, I am.
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Kristen
Well, I've been looking for my phone for.
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Ryan Reynolds
In Dax's domain, we see all. So we always know what our cars are worth.
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Kristen
All of them?
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Ryan Reynolds
All of them. Value surge trucks up 3.9%.
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Kristen
That's a great offer.
- [23:58]
Ryan Reynolds
I know.
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Kristen
Sell, sell.
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Ryan Reynolds
Track your car's value with Carvana Value Tracker today. Dear old work platform. It's not you, it's us.
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Freddie Wong
Actually, it is you.
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Ryan Reynolds
Endless onboarding, constant IT bottlenecks. We've had enough.
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Freddie Wong
We need a platform that just gets us.
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Ryan Reynolds
And to be honest, we've met someone new. They're called Monday.com and it was love at first onboarding. Their beautiful dashboards, their customizable workflows got us floating on a digital cloud nine.
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Freddie Wong
So no hard feelings, but we're moving on Monday.com, the first work platform you'll love to use.
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Ryan Reynolds
Hey there, Ryan Reynolds here.
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Kristen
It's a new year and you know what that means.
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Ryan Reynolds
No, not the diet resolutions.
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Kristen
A way for us all to try and do a little bit better than we did last year. And my resolution, unlike big wireless, is to not be a raging and raise.
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Amanda Riley
The price of wireless on you every chance I get.
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Ryan Reynolds
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Arlette Lee
$45 upfront payment required, equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first 3 month plan only. Taxes and fees, extra Speed slower above 40 gigabytes on unlimited. See mintmobile.com for details.
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Freddie Wong
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Charlie Webster
This was the piece of information that Detective Martinez felt he needed, but now he had to figure out what to do with it. While Amanda may not have been a patient at City of Hope, it didn't mean she didn't have cancer. Martinez needed something more than just an email from a hospital's legal department.
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Ryan Reynolds
You have to sell it to the district attorney for them to bite into it and go, okay, well, you know, they're the ones who have to present this thing in court. They want to feel confident I'm not giving them something that, you know, it's gonna get in court and it's gonna fall apart like an eggshell. I'm kind of California officer. As long as that business, does business in California and San Jose. The connection, the nexus to where I'm at, then I could reach for it. But she was doing stuff on the east coast, and then that put me out of reach, and I wasn't sure what she was doing over there and everywhere in between. If my only goal is to just get a charge on her, I can get a local charge, but if she's doing something federal, whole different ball game.
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Kristen
In the months that I was communicating with Detective Martinez, I handed over the information I had. He was knee deep in his investigation. He was able to talk with Amanda, he was able to verify a lot of the information I gave him reached out to medical facilities. So he. He was working the case his way and could only take it so far. Far. It just was frustrating to me to be in this holding cycle of, okay, what. What's going to happen? What's next? When's the, you know, all these things? And I think in the end, it just got really frustrating for the both of us.
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Ryan Reynolds
So I thought about old cases and I thought Al Capone didn't get taken down for all the, you know, murder and bootleg or prohibition stuff got taken down from. From the irs. And I thought, well, she is getting monies from all this, from, who knows, from wherever, right? Because you're on the Internet. The Internet is worldwide.
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Kristen
I had spoken with my father in law in regards to Amanda's case because he was a retired IRS agent. And you know, just talking through it with him, he said, well, you know, you should contact the irs, because that's wire fraud. He explained why. He explained what her actions meant in the world of federal felony charges. And he said, you know, that's wire fraud. You should call the irs. And that's exactly what I did.
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Ryan Reynolds
I had met Arlette Lee, the IRS investigator in investigative school. So she invited me to come down to the office in San Jose. She heard the whole thing out and then we had this conversation. And then like, here we are. What do you think? And I was surprised, like, yeah, I like it. I want to go with it. Sounds good. Because they had no cases like it before an IRS cancer scan.
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Arlette Lee
My name is Arlette Lee. I'm an IRS special agent. One of our things we do is it's financial crimes, primarily tax, but any sort of a financial crime where there's fraud involved. The appeal to me was there was money being obtained fraudulently. So that's just, that's right up our alley with all kinds of financial crimes, whether it's investment fraud or any other type of financial crime. And this was no different, except the draw was really wanting to know, okay, she's pretending to have cancer, telling people she has cancer, she's getting donations. And for myself, I'm like, well, I want to find out if she does or not. It's just human nature. Then you have that financial aspect where she is getting money under false pretenses. And so I was able to join the case, assisting with Detective Martinez from the San Jose Police Department. And so that's kind of how it started.
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Charlie Webster
Despite the now federal investigation into Amanda.
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Amanda Riley
She kept posting every time I have to go to New York, especially so close together, it's panic time.
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Charlie Webster
And posting.
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Amanda Riley
A family from church reached out on Thanksgiving and decided they wanted to pay for my trial drug. All, all $1,350 of it. And posting then beautiful Kafiro family graciously used their points to get me to and from, no questions asked. On top of being our most consistent, generous donors. So this trip cost our family nothing.
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Charlie Webster
Thanking people for their generous donations.
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Amanda Riley
We had another family offer to pay my next chemo medication in two weeks. I. I can't even tell you what it feels like to not feel any monetary stress for this trip or the next. We feel very blessed.
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Charlie Webster
And she was posting pictures alongside selfies in hospital. Her bruised arms from all the needles and the medication that she was now self injecting.
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Amanda Riley
We are officially two immunotherapy keytruda injections down. I thought giving myself injections would be a lot scarier than it was. It was actually really easy and relatively pain free. Using my PICC light, she was posing.
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Kristen
With a needle and medications and talking about, these are the medications, and I'm gonna be able to do this at home. I mean, a clinical trial is so specific and you have to be at a hospital. That's the whole idea. But she's special, and she's allowed to do it at home now. It is absurd. When I started to fact check what was in Amanda's blog in regards to her treatments in New York and the drugs, you know, the clinical trial she was involved with, I knew I couldn't call up and say, oh, tell me all about Amanda Riley and her treatment. Like, it doesn't. You can't do that. Right. So I had to come up with a way to ask the questions that were very broad. I had reached out to that oncology department, right? I introduced myself. I told them who I was and what I was investigating, and I sent them the blog. So they saw the blog. They saw what Amanda was claiming to be treated there, and they didn't like what they saw, and they were really concerned. And then about a week later, you know, they got back to me and said, we can't talk to you about any of our patients or any one in particular, but we would like to answer whatever questions you may have. I started going through the blog methodically with each trip to New York, and I said, on this date. And I would give the date. Did you have the start of a new clinical trial for the drug Keytruda? And they would say, no, we did not have a trial start that week. And I would call back each time. Very specific. I quoted everything from her blog. On this date, did you have a patient receive Keytruda and have a lung collapse on this date from this medication? No, we did not. On this date, did you have a patient break out in hives and needed mega doses of Benadryl because of such a severe reaction to the drug Keytruda? No. Not only was it a no, but I would say 90% of the time it was. We don't have a current trial of Keytruda going right now. Clinical trials are regulated. It's very specific. There's start dates and there's end dates. Amanda's treatment did not fit into any of that protocol. So I knew. I knew she wasn't being treated there, and I knew the facts made no sense. Amanda was claiming to be allowed to self inject keytruda at home. What she was claiming was it was holiday time, it was gonna be. She was supposed to go back for another round of keytruda. It was Thanksgiving, and she put in her blog, oh, isn't this great? My oncologist wants me to be able to enjoy the holidays at home. So he is allowing me to self inject, basically in the comforts of my own home. So I called and I said, do you allow any of the drugs to be shipped to be used in the comfort of somebody's home if they're in a clinical trial? They didn't even know what to say there at first. They were like, no, absolutely not. And I said, well, except explain. I asked them to explain the process of giving someone the drug keytruda. And I was told keytruda is stored at below freezing temperatures. It has to be reconstituted in a ventilated pharmacy. It then has to be given in an IV form added to another solution. So it's a multi step process in very, very restricted areas where there's proper ventilation, and then it's made into an iv, you know, And Amanda was claiming to just be, you know, shooting it up herself at home in the bathroom. She was shown pictures of herself with the needle up in the air. Amanda Riley was not in a clinical trial. Amanda Riley was surely not injecting chemotherapy at home. It was just that simple.
- [35:53]
Charlie Webster
The drug keytruda is given through an IV line over a 30 minute period and treatments usually take place at a doctor's office or an infusion clinic. Nancy's investigation may have began quietly, but she was starting to show her hand and Amanda was not having any of it. Nancy came home one day to a stack of papers stuffed in her mailbox. Amanda was serving her with a civil harassment restraining order.
- [36:26]
Kristen
My initial reaction when I got the papers was, okay, I gotta talk to an attorney. This was on a Friday. The paperwork said I was due in court on Tuesday morning and Monday was a court holiday, so there was no one I could contact at the courts. In between, I called the attorney. They said, were you physically served? I said, no. No one handed me papers. They were stuffed in my mailbox. And they said, well, you weren't legally served. You don't have to appear if you weren't legally served. Whoever was supposed to serve me was paid to come to Southern California and hand me papers. You have to be physically served the papers because the person serving you is acknowledging that they served the proper person. And that the person receiving the papers is Nancy Muscatello. So putting them in a random mailbox doesn't mean Nancy Muscatello was served. It means a mailbox was served. So what should have happened is when I came home from work, a person would have approached me and said, are you Nancy Muscatello? And I probably would have turned it, yes. Why? And they would have handed me and said, you've been served and handed me the paperwork. That is how you serve someone. I would have had to have been in San Jose, California Tuesday morning by 8am and I live in Los Angeles, which is a five hour drive. So I knew, like, I needed answers and I needed to know what to do. Did I need to get up to San Jose or not? It's a five hour drive. It was a holiday weekend and I was told, you know, you don't need to be there.
- [38:02]
Charlie Webster
What were you being accused of?
- [38:04]
Kristen
I was being accused of harassment, civil harassment. So she wanted, Amanda Riley wanted a restraining order to stop me from contacting family, contacting work not only for her, but for her husband, Corey, and to have basically no contact with anyone involved in their lives. One of the things she wanted me to be restrained from doing was contacting family members. She said I had reached out many times and contacted family members, which just was not true. She said that I got her fired from one of her jobs. That just was not true. She said I got her husband fired from one of his jobs. Again, that just wasn't true. That I took on different Personas and were posting things online about her. Again, that just wasn't true.
- [39:01]
Charlie Webster
Nancy, I've got the definition of civil harassment here. It says civil harassment is abuse, threats of abuse, stalking, sexual assault, or serious harassment by someone you have not dated and do not have a close relationship with. Then there's the civil harassment laws, which is specific to California. It says harassment is unlawful violence like assault or battery or stalking or a credible real threat of violence. And the violence or threat seriously scare, annoy or harass someone and there is no valid reason for it. Do you think in any way she had a case because she felt that it was harassing to her and it was annoying to her?
- [39:40]
Kristen
I mean, I don't think Amanda Riley had a leg to stand on. I mean, I didn't contact her, I didn't threaten her. I didn't reach out in any way that wasn't extremely professional. And what any journalist would do, you know, I would say Amanda Riley felt seriously harassed or annoyed about being caught or about being Called out or about being questioned because none of my actions were threatening, violent, anything that I would say, you know, was out of line.
- [40:19]
Charlie Webster
How did you feel that she was taking you to court?
- [40:23]
Kristen
I was concerned for my reputation and the work that I do and having repercussions from this. Because it's important that I. I follow a code of ethics that I, you know, I feel are really important. And so when someone calls up into question, it's really important to defend myself and to hold true to how I do things. I knew what Amanda Riley was capable of, and I knew she would not hesitate to use manipulation and lies to stop me. I see the little shred of truth that Amanda used to then exaggerate, change, and depict me as some out of control person. But yeah, you know, when you have a detective order, it's serious. I mean, that's something that's on your record. So that wasn't a good feeling at all. And as a journalist, as someone that works in news, like a restraining order for what? Like that's really detrimental. She essentially was able to get a judge to restrain the press.
- [41:52]
Amanda Riley
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
- [41:55]
Freddie Wong
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
- [41:57]
Amanda Riley
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
- [42:00]
Ryan Reynolds
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
- [42:12]
Amanda Riley
Just like that.
- [42:13]
Kristen
Yeah.
- [42:13]
Amanda Riley
No hassle?
- [42:14]
Freddie Wong
None.
- [42:15]
Amanda Riley
That is super convenient.
- [42:17]
Arlette Lee
Sell your car to Carvana and swap.
- [42:19]
Kristen
Hassle.
- [42:19]
Arlette Lee
For convenience. Pickup fees may apply.
- [42:21]
Ryan Reynolds
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- [42:35]
Freddie Wong
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- [42:38]
Ryan Reynolds
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- [42:43]
Kristen
Huh.
- [42:44]
Ryan Reynolds
Turns out you can love a work management platform. Monday.com. the first work platform you'll love to use.
- [42:51]
Amanda Riley
Hey, I'm Ryan Reynolds.
- [42:53]
Kristen
At Mint Mobile, we like to do.
- [42:54]
Ryan Reynolds
The opposite of what big wireless does.
- [42:57]
Kristen
They charge you a lot, we charge you a little. So naturally, when they announced they'd be raising their prices due to inflation, we.
- [43:03]
Ryan Reynolds
Decided to deflate our prices due to not hating you.
- [43:07]
Freddie Wong
That's right.
- [43:07]
Kristen
We're cutting the price of mint unlimited.
- [43:09]
Amanda Riley
From $30 a month to just $15 a month.
- [43:12]
Ryan Reynolds
Give it a try@mintmobile.com switch.
- [43:15]
Arlette Lee
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- [43:21]
Kristen
Details.
- [43:22]
Freddie Wong
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- [44:14]
Charlie Webster
Despite the threat to Nancy's reputation, a pending restraining order, and being questioned not only by her friends, but her husband and daughter, she was in so deep that she couldn't let it go. It was impossible to resist contacting IRS Special Agent Arlette Lee.
- [44:32]
Kristen
I reached out, I said, I don't want to come across nuts like writing all this out, but I sent anything I could show the back and forth of what Amanda was saying and doing. And I said, just look at the stuff I've done. I had meticulous logs of all my phone calls to the different doctors and the different places that I was trying to, you know, keep in order. So have a look at that. Have a look at the blog. Here's my source. Agreed to speak to federal agents also, if need be. I sent over everything digitally and just said, just look at it and then let's go from there. And then you ask me whatever you want I can kind of give you, because this is a lot to take in. And so months went by. I didn't hear anything. I would periodically, when I would come across someone new or found new information, I would send. Took a few months until I actually heard back from Arlette. One of the first things she said, and I know the feeling, she said, you know, my sister has cancer and it's not good. And so when I finally sat down and looked at everything you sent, I could not believe somebody could do this. And I want to take this case on and see what I can do. And I knew she couldn't tell me much. She had explained that they have to go in front of a grand jury. She explained to me, once that happened, you can Send people my way. You could, if you would want. If they want to talk to me, give them my number, but I can't let you know what's going on. And I said, that's fine. I said, and she says, you just have to trust that I'm working. We're working on it.
- [46:20]
Arlette Lee
When Nancy started telling me about. We were on the phone, and she was telling me about what they thought Amanda Riley was doing. I just felt my. My heart, like, my throat got really tight, and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I also felt a sense sort of guilty. I thought, how could somebody who's doing this. How could I be looking at somebody like this? Because a lot of times people will come and say, oh, this person is doing this letter and the other thing, and it may not necessarily be 100% true. I felt nervous looking at this case. Was I making the right decision to look at it? But my job is to look at the facts. So I got information. I need to figure out whether or not crime's been committed. After talking to Detective Martinez, I knew, okay, there's really. There's something there. And so then it was at that point, okay, I need to talk to the U.S. attorney's office to see if we can look at this further, because I think Detective Martinez was limited in what he could get at that point in the investigation. There was enough information, enough public record, because you have these posts to show that something doesn't add up. And so that's when I decided, okay, let me look at this closer.
- [47:52]
Charlie Webster
As much as we might like to think it could be, lying isn't illegal. Investigators have to sift through the web of lies and find evidence of what actual crime is being committed. In this case, there was a paper trail of donations coming in online.
- [48:10]
Arlette Lee
Wire fraud is when there's some fraudulent statement. There's something that leads people to give you. Send you money through the wires. And in this particular case, she's saying that she has cancer, people are sending her money, and then the money goes through her bank accounts. And so wire fraud is pretty much using the wires to get money under false pretenses. The way our cases work is we work up the investigation, we get all of our evidence, and then we present it to the U.S. attorney's office for prosecution. And so sometimes it just takes longer. I think a lot of the witnesses, and including Nancy, would call and say, what's going on? And I'm like, I haven't given up. I'm still working on this. But the wheels of justice sometimes Just move slowly. When there's indications of fraud with medical records, we are able to subpoena those records. Criminal investigators can get access to those records via subpoena.
- [49:15]
Charlie Webster
Can you tell us about those medical records?
- [49:19]
Arlette Lee
There were a lot of records because it covered a long period of time, so. But as far as, you know, what was in the records, I wouldn't be able to discuss that, but there were a lot of medical records.
- [49:31]
Charlie Webster
Does a lot mean like a small pile, or does a lot mean, like you can fill a room with folders?
- [49:38]
Arlette Lee
It's all electronic, so I mean, I would look at it in piecemeal as I would get it, but thousands and thousands of pages. So there was a. There were a lot of records to go through.
- [49:51]
Charlie Webster
How much did her blog actually help you?
- [49:54]
Arlette Lee
It was very helpful because it did. If. If she said she was going to be at City of Hope or she was going to be at Columbia, then that's where we went.
- [50:05]
Kristen
Agent Lee and I didn't really talk that much after that. If there was some information or a person I came across that I thought she needed to know about, I would email her or direct that person to reach out to her. I wasn't privy to what was going on in the investigation. And then I got a tip that they were going to be serving a search warrant on Amanda and Cory Riley's home. And it was at that point that I knew it was an active and open case.
- [50:34]
Charlie Webster
Nancy actually went to the raid with her reporter friend, Ana Garcia.
- [50:39]
Kristen
I'm Ana Garcia, and I'm a crime reporter. Nancy got a tip that the authorities were going to be serving a search warrant on Amanda's house. And usually these things happen before the sun even rises because you want to make sure that you catch everyone when they're not expecting you for a lot of reasons, because it makes sure that the people who you're serving the search warrant on don't have time to destroy evidence. So when you catch them, when they're kind of slow, it's the ultimate to preserve evidence. So we got there several hours before daylight, and there were three of us in the car, and we are parked out of the way, but yet still able to see Amanda's house. And, you know, in those early morning.
- [51:40]
Arlette Lee
Hours when you're sitting in a car.
- [51:42]
Kristen
You are just talking about everything and just waiting. And it never ceases to surprise me how when the raid goes down, it happens so quickly, even though you're sitting there and waiting and prepared, that all of a sudden it happens so fast that you're like scrambling and you're jumping and everything's dropping out of your lap as you're running out of the car and running toward the house where this is happening. You're always catching up, even when you're there waiting. And that's exactly what happened that morning. By the time we ran up there, the agents were already through the front yard, at the front door with a battering ram and banging on the door and waking everyone up.
- [52:33]
Charlie Webster
This is real audio of the house raid. The voice you can hear is Nancy's friend Anna describing what is going on.
- [52:40]
Kristen
Right now, it looks like the IRS is going in with agents to search the house. They're knocking on the door.
- [52:47]
Arlette Lee
They've got a warrant.
- [52:48]
Kristen
You can hear them. They're knocking on the door, and they're saying, we've got a warrant. We did a stakeout. When the feds came, they came like before 6am in the morning. It's like everything you see on TV. They came four or five big SUVs, the battering ram, SWAT team. It was easily 10 IRS agents armed. They all jump out and they split and go up the side of the property, over fences, around the back. From what you know, the other group did it the other way. And then they knock on the door. They yell, federal investigators. Open up. Let us in. All right, the cops are going over the fence. You've got cops at the door banging, screaming, police. We've got a search warrant. They are now jumping over that fence.
- [53:51]
Ryan Reynolds
You can hear them.
- [53:51]
Arlette Lee
You can see them. Flashlights everywhere.
- [53:54]
Kristen
Police.
- [53:55]
Freddie Wong
Open up.
- [54:02]
Ryan Reynolds
Open the door.
- [54:03]
Kristen
Open the door, please. Okay, so there's somebody home, and they're telling them to open the door.
- [54:09]
Ryan Reynolds
If you guys don't open up, we're going to hit.
- [54:11]
Kristen
We're going to run the door.
- [54:12]
Freddie Wong
Open up.
- [54:14]
Kristen
I mean, I couldn't believe. I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy, because, you know, I'm thinking she's a mom of two. She's a sweet little. This is what neighbors know her as, right? And then this pulls up, and I had to keep reminding myself, like, no, this is what happens when you do these things. I saw them show paperwork to Corey. Like, this is why we're here. Here's the documentation for us to come into your home.
- [54:41]
Arlette Lee
I can't talk too much about that. But I'm not going to deny that we a search warrant, because the media showed up, which is not uncommon. And I know that in this particular case, Nancy was keeping an eye on everything that she could. But I can't talk about what happened at the search warrant, but I'm not going to deny that there was a search warrant.
- [55:06]
Kristen
If I could have your name, please, and what agency you represent?
- [55:10]
Arlette Lee
Arlette Lee. I'm a special agent with IRS Criminal Investigation.
- [55:13]
Kristen
Can you tell us what you're doing here?
- [55:16]
Arlette Lee
Really, the only thing I can tell you at this point is that we are here on official business. I don't have anything that's a matter of public record, so at this time, I'm not able to provide any details.
- [55:27]
Charlie Webster
Detective Martinez was also at the raid.
- [55:30]
Ryan Reynolds
I'm a detective with the San Jose Police Department, Financial crimes investigations. This morning at this residence, the IRS served a search warrant for the residents here.
- [55:42]
Kristen
Do you know what they were looking for?
- [55:44]
Ryan Reynolds
It's pertaining to a financial crime investigation, which is an open investigation with the IRS at this time. I'd been on a lot of search warrants, and I knew that the IRS was going to have a full team of their own people because now they're looking for very specific items that we're trying to collect to prove these charges. I was in there with them, but my bigger interest was to talk with her one on one in her own living room. Just see what Amanda's demeanor was. I searched her room with the IRS folks, and I was looking for what I knew I would find. Which, like Annie, antidepressants, Xanax. And the reason those are important in the game is that even burglary crews, larger, sophisticated organized crime crews, when they go in to do a job, a lot of them would take Xanax or antidepressants. So they were super calm and super collected. Even though there was chaos going on and the excitement of the moment, they would get lost in it. And so when I saw that she had Xanax and antidepressant type stuff, I thought she's gonna be just super chill because she's already popped a couple today, probably. She was really cool cat. She was just sitting on the couch, just chatting like, yeah, go ahead. I thought you were high as hell right now, girl. And I sat just directly across from me, and she says, oh, so you're Martinez? I am. Nice to meet you.
- [57:41]
Charlie Webster
What did you say to her?
- [57:43]
Ryan Reynolds
She didn't talk about the case. And I didn't want to go down the road of the case. She already knew what the game was. She knew I knew at that point. She had to have known. You have a federal agency doing a search warrant accompanied by a local investigator. You know that what you're doing, like you.
- [58:05]
Arlette Lee
You.
- [58:06]
Ryan Reynolds
You know that you. You've been defrauding these folks, this church and. And all these people, these organizations for all this time. But like I said, she was just cools a cucumber. I didn't want to pull her into any kind of statements just because it was the IRS's case now. And I probably wouldn't have done it there even if it was, you know, I was running it. I wouldn't have done it there. I would have rather had her in an interview room.
- [58:36]
Kristen
So what did you talk about then?
- [58:39]
Ryan Reynolds
Small talk. Just, how are the kids? You know, what's your day like? Basic stuff. She's more like, oh, yeah, the kids are in school. How long are you guys gonna be here? I don't know. Could be a few hours and whatnot. And I got her water. She was just kind of like. She was just calm. She didn't look worried. She looked contemplative, like she was angling for the next thing. Like, what was she gonna do with this? That. That's what I felt from her. But like I said, she was just super chilled out, just like we are. We're just talking, just having a conversation. And you have like 10 people just tearing up your house, going through closets and drawers and your underwear drawer. Like, you're like, hey, you don't need to go in there. It's. She wasn't concerned at all.
- [59:38]
Charlie Webster
What does that tell you about who Amanda is, the fact that she was like that?
- [59:44]
Ryan Reynolds
Well, because she probably had the assistance of Xanax or something in her system, she may have had, like, legitimate anxiety. Knowing every day is a scheme, every day is a show. It's an act. She has to keep this up. It's like that movie, the Truman show, where she knows she's being videoed. That's the difference. So everywhere she goes, everyone she meets, she's got to keep with this storyline. She has to study the storyline. She. And I think the blog helped her kind of keep track of where she was at with it because she had to be accurate with what she's putting out publicly, right? Because somebody's going to ask her, hey, so how was hospital? You know, this or that. How was this medication? How she's got to have that answer and ready to go. So literally, she's an actress and a damn good one. Her game was so good. She knew that she had to keep this face because if she was going to show worry, then she's falling into that, you know, the acceptance of it. Like, you're going down now, right? And you're telling people Just with your body language. Just like you tell people your body language that you're sick. So she has that down. She had it down and she's been doing it for a long time. I just felt like she believes right now this is going to blow over. She's going to get out of this.
- [61:13]
Kristen
Could you talk to us about what's going on inside your house?
- [61:16]
Amanda Riley
Nope.
- [61:17]
Kristen
What about your wife and allegations that she's been raising money but doesn't have cancer? Can you talk to us about that?
- [61:34]
Charlie Webster
We all thoughts of Corey.
- [61:36]
Ryan Reynolds
I felt he knew what was going on and his part of the act was to play as if he didn't know, like, oh, oh my God. Oh, she's not sick. I thought in his head he had been doing it for a while too. And that was the other thing, is the stepdaughter wasn't convinced she was sick. And kids have an instinct about parents. I think she sensed that, like whether or not she knew what a real cancer victim looked like or I think she felt the dishonesty, the inauthenticity of the whole scene. The daytoday, like it was probably just being played out on a stage. This is her stage. And now you're one of the characters on her stage. But here's Amanda. She's in full act mode. You know, when somebody's fake crying or fake emotional or. Or fake nice, kids have that sense about it. And. And this girl was pretty consistent about her not being truthful. I could see where she got that from when I was talking to man and she was. Her response was not consistent with what was happening. It was fake concern, like, oh, my God, are the kids going to make it to school okay? And you know, you're like, oh, really? I mean, you know when somebody's faking. But I knew she had to stay with that role.
- [63:05]
Charlie Webster
Whilst all this was going on, Amanda was still putting the cancer thing out there. Shortly after the raid, she took to the stage again. This time at her school. Students gathered to listen to her as she showcased her cancer struggle and how it deepened her relationship with God.
- [63:25]
Amanda Riley
God is always with you in his timing, not yours. And it doesn't matter if your glass is half full or empty. What matters is what your glass is filled with. Is it filled with godly things or worldly worries? God didn't give me cancer. God prepared me for cancer.
- [63:45]
Charlie Webster
And she was still taking Nancy to court.
- [63:48]
Kristen
Amanda Riley filed a civil harassment restraining order against me. And using a bunch of extremely exaggerated claims in the request for civil harassment restraining orders, these are some of the things that they listed. The harassment is ongoing and is targeting Ms. Riley's spouse as well. Ms. Muscatello has made calls to Mr. Riley's employers and others in order to threaten and harass him. Ms. Muscatello accessed secure court records regarding Mr. Reilly's pay stage in his family court case. This harassment and invasion of privacy has caused serious emotional distress and is interfering with the ongoing family court case. Ms. Moscatello's actions have caused Amanda Riley her employment previously. Ms. Riley has a new employer and is fearful of further actions risking her employment. The new employer has been unwilling to announce Ms. Riley's position due to this matter. Ms. Moscatella's harassment has been an ongoing pattern of behavior for over a year. She was contacted by Mr. Reilly's ex wife in an attempt to cause problems with an ongoing family law matter regarding their children. Amanda Riley was diagnosed with and beat cancer. However, Ms. Moscatello has been claiming and investigating that Ms. Riley never had cancer and was a fraud. This has caused Ms. Riley to lose her job and put her in fear of losing her new position as well. I would never say it's harassing. She's putting herself out there. She's putting herself out there via her work, her court. Everything revolves around the cancer. So to fact check it, you have to ask questions, you have to contact people. You have to.
- [65:29]
Charlie Webster
But she's accusing you of you making her having to resign from her job.
- [65:33]
Kristen
Yeah. I was like, whoa. Like, boy, you have just upped this big time. Because, you know, in my mind, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm been doing this for a very long time. I'm thorough and I'm careful and I'm respectful. When I started reading through it, I was like, oh, this is all made up. Like, this is all bullshit, right? This will be easy because I didn't do any of these things. I knew she was desperate. I knew that this was a desperate attempt to silent me and to get rid of me because I think she thought that it would be easy.
- [66:10]
Charlie Webster
Did it deter you in any way?
- [66:12]
Kristen
Oh, no, no. If anything, it made it. It made it extremely personal. I was like, bring it on.
- [66:26]
Charlie Webster
Scamander is hostile. Hosted and produced by me, Charlie Webster and Produced by Jackson McLennan. Amanda's blog posts are read by actor Kendall Horn. Peggy, Amanda's mum is read by actor Jill Marie Hoffman. Edit and theme music by Nico Palella. Assistant Producer Casey Hurts Assistant Editor Seema Graywall. Additional production support from Stephen Sletton will Hague and Nicole Urban Executive produced by me, Charlie Webster and Nancy Moscatello. Scamander is a Lionsgate Sound production engineered by Pilgrim Media Group.
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Arlette Lee
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Freddie Wong
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- [68:50]
Amanda Riley
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- [69:09]
Kristen
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Amanda Riley
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Kristen
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