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Sachi Cole
Wondery subscribers can listen to Scamfluencers early and ad free right now. Join Wondery plus in the Wondery app or Apple Podcasts. A note to our listeners this episode involves mention of suicide. Please listen with care. Wonder Sarah, what do you know about the Menendezes?
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Sarah Hagie
It's those brothers who like probably killed their parents, but everyone on TikTok thinks they're innocent. I'm too scared to learn more to be honest.
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Sachi Cole
Okay, that is not actually who I'm talking about. They do share a last name. I am talking about the politician power couple.
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Sarah Hagie
I have never heard of these people.
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Sachi Cole
Okay, well wonderful news Sarah. Cause I am here to tell you all about the other less murdery Menendez pair and trust me, it is still a wild ride. It's October 2019 and Bob Menendez is ready for the Spotlight. Bob is 65, has a helmet of white hair, a round, and wears rimless glasses. Picture middle management at the Keebler Elf Factory. Bob is actually a pretty powerful guy. He's a U.S. senator from New Jersey, and he's the ranking member of the very important Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He's known as a ruthless politician. But for Bob, today is all about love. He's been on a whirlwind vacation with his girlfriend of a year and a half, Nadine Arslanian. Nadine looks way out of Bob's league. She's a striking blonde in her early 50s, tall and lean with olive skin. During this trip, they've made stops in Greece, Turks and Caicos, and Colombia. But today, Bob has taken Nadine to the Taj Mahal. She's wearing a blue dress with flowers and sitting in front of him on a bench near the very one that Princess Diana made famous. A dusky haze falls over the famous palace as tourists stream in and out. The whole thing has a surreal, dreamlike quality to it, which makes it a popular place to pop the question. And that is exactly what Bob plans to do. A few months ago, Bob told Nadine he was going to propose to her by singing a certain song. But he wouldn't tell her what the song was or when he was going to do it. But now, as Nadine gazes up at him, he starts singing. Thankfully, someone with a video camera was there to capture the moment. And I am going to make you watch it. All the stars as we steal from the night sky Never be enough Never be enough.
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Sarah Hagie
This was disgusting to watch. It's like over a minute and ten seconds of him just straight up singing before he sits beside her and proposes everything about it was gross and weird and uncomfortable and I think public proposals are evil.
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Sachi Cole
Okay, well, that's good to know. I won't propose to you in public. Well, the song is Never Enough, which is from the movie musical the Greatest Showman. It's not hard to see why Bob might like it. The subject of the movie, P.T. barnum was the son of a tailor and eventually became a power player in government and a household name for his traveling circus. Bob is the son of a seamstress and carpenter, but now he's one of the most powerful people in the US Government. The other thing that Bob and PT Barnum have in common? They're both big time fraudsters. Bob and Nadine's jet setting love story comes with a hefty price tag and they've been lining their pockets using Bob's influence and Nadine's connections with a foreign government. They're riding high on the proposal for now, but the FBI is onto them and soon a federal investigation will reveal Bob's circus trick. Good old fashioned bribery all right, audible's best of 2024 picks are here, so discover the year's top audiobooks, podcasts and originals in all your favorite genres.
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Sachi Cole
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Sachi Cole
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Sarah Hagie
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Sachi Cole
Give it a try@mintmobile.com Switch $45 upfront payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three month plan only taxes and fees. Extra speed slower above 40 gigabytes of detail from Wondry. I'm saatchi Cole. And I'm Sarah Hagie and this is Scamfluencers. Come and give me your attention. I won't turn my speakers to 11. I feel like a legend. Today I'm going to tell you about a love story so epic that it undermined American democracy. When Senator Bob Menendez first entered politics, he wanted to root out corruption. But by the time he got together with needy Narslanian in 2018, he was more than happy to loan out the power of a Senate seat for money, luxury items, and even gym equipment. This story isn't just about how far bribery will get you in New Jersey. It's also about how absolute power corrupts absolutely and how far some men will go for the women of their dreams. This is Bob Menendez. Bad romance, part one legend. It's the winter of 1982 and 28 year old Bob Menendez is at the federal courthouse in Newark, New Jersey. He's wearing big glasses, a trench coat and a bulletproof vest. Bob isn't being paranoid. He's about to testify in a high profile corruption case and a judge was recently assassinated during a similar trial. So he's taking extra precautions. Bob grew up in Union City, New Jersey, right across the Hudson river from Manhattan. His parents were immigrants who fled from Cuba in the 50s once they were in the US Bob's dad worked as a carpenter while his mom worked as a seamstress. So growing up, Bob's family didn't have a lot of money. When Bob got to high school, he had big sideburns and side swept 70s bangs. He was a good student. He did so well that his teachers wanted him to take honors classes. There was just one problem. They said that Bob had to pay for the extra books. Having to pay for the extra books just didn't feel right to Bob. Thankfully, he was working as a teenage aide to a local Democratic power player, William Musto. William was in the state legislature at the time, and he used some political muscle to help Bob organize a successful petition drive to reform the city's school board. This gives Bob a taste of local politics. And a couple of years later, when Bob was just 20, he actually won a seat on that very same school board. And that year, William was elected mayor of Union City.
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Sarah Hagie
Wow, that is quite a trajectory. I mean, obviously as many scammers, he started off very ambitious and hardworking.
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Sachi Cole
Yes, but his happiness does not really last. A few years after that, Bob's father dies by suicide. Bob started to see William as a father figure as well as a mentor. And in the late 70s, just as Bob was finishing up law school while still serving on the school board, he approached William with another problem. Bob discovered that a company owned by a mob hitman had been overcharging the district for construction on two high schools. He took the problem to William, but the mayor didn't take any action to stop the corruption. In fact, Bob was taken off the project entirely. He was forced to face reality. His mentor was just another corrupt New Jersey politician. And this is why Bob is at the courthouse today. He's testifying against William in a bribery case.
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Sarah Hagie
Oh, my God. That is crazy. Like someone who basically became your second father, your mentor, and then you just see that they're a cheater.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah. Well, Bob is determined to stick to his principles and go after corruption, even when it means facing down a powerhouse like William. At least that's how Bob tells it. For what it's worth, Bob is testifying against William while also running for mayor against him. And even though William is found guilty and sentenced to seven years in prison, in classic New Jersey fashion, he still wins the election. After this loss, it seems like Bob's political career might be over before it even begins. But just like he showed by taking the stand, Bob isn't going to go down without a fight. Bob is humiliated by his loss to William, but he keeps his eye on the prize. For the next four years, he builds his law practice. And then in 1986, he runs for mayor again. And this time, he wins. From there, he advances steadily through the political ranks. He gets elected to the New Jersey State assembly and then the state Senate. In 1992, 10 years after he testified against his former mentor, Bob wins a seat in the US House of Representatives. His political stock is rising, but he wants more. Former staffers later told Vanity Fair that Bob always wanted to be rich, but he didn't want to have to kiss donors asses at fancy fundraisers. Unfortunately for Bob, he does not have much of a choice. That's why in 1993, a couple of months after his election to Congress, he's at a Democratic Party fundraiser in South Florida. It's a $250 a plate dinner with about 50 donors. And one of them is a prominent local eye doctor named Solomon Melgan. Solomon is in his late 30s, with a round face and a slightly receding hairline. After an investment in a supercomputer system made him a multimillionaire, he became a prominent political donor in Florida. When Bob meets Solomon, he senses a kindred spirit. They're about the Same age, and they both have Latin American backgrounds. Solomon is from the Dominican Republic. At the fundraiser, Solomon gives Bob $500. It's a small start, but soon enough, the two men become buddies to the point where their families start vacationing together. And Bob might hate sucking up to most donors, but he and Solomon legitimately seem to love hanging out. Bob attends Solomon's daughter's wedding, and Solomon flies to be by Bob's side after his mother dies. And Solomon is probably there for his friend. In 2005, after Bob's divorce from his first wife, in 2006, Bob gets a big promotion. He's appointed to the Senate. Given their close friendship, it's no surprise that months later, when it's time for him to run for a full term, he knows that he can rely on his friend. Solomon flies Bob around on a private jet, holds fundraisers for him, and makes large donations to his campaign. In November 2006, Bob wins.
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Sarah Hagie
I understand this is probably a genuine friendship, but it reeks of you scratch my back, I scratch yours.
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Sachi Cole
Sarah. I think it's a lot like our friendship in so many ways.
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Sarah Hagie
We scratch each other's backs and it works.
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Sachi Cole
And we also do lots of fraud. Now, we don't know exactly when Bob starts using his power to help Solomon, but he is definitely doing it once he's in the Senate. For instance, in 2008, Solomon tells Bob that his 22 year old Dominican model girlfriend was supposed to get a visa to visit him for the holidays, but her application was denied. Could Bob fix the problem? Bob reaches out to the ambassador, and Solomon's girlfriend gets her visa almost immediately. Then Bob goes on to secure visas for two of Solomon's other girlfriends. But soon, Solomon will ask Bob for even bigger favors, ones that veer into outright corruption. It's June 2009. Bob has been in the Senate for about three years, and today he's emailing a staffer to let them know that Solomon needs help. His friend has a Medicare problem. The problem is that Solomon overbilled Medicare for a drug that he used in his practice to the tune of almost $9 million. Bob initiates conversations on Solomon's behalf with the Senate Majority Leader's office and even with the Secretary of Health and Human Services. But his efforts to make Solomon's problem go away are in vain. Two years later, Bob gets another chance to help out his friend. Salomon tells Bob that he has an ownership stake in a port security company. And this company has a $500 million contract with the government of the Dominican Republic. But the government is trying to back out of the deal. Bob steps in, and by this time, he's not just on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which helps shape legislation related to foreign affairs. He's also the chair of the subcommittee that oversees the Dominican Republic. So Bob may be better positioned than anyone in the country to lean on both the State and the Commerce Departments to persuade them to enforce the contract. And that's what he does. Bob really isn't supposed to be doing this. Yes, the rules are a little fuzzy, but Bob has been accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gifts from Solomon for years. He's supposed to report these in his financial disclosure reports, but he hasn't. So when he starts pushing to enforce the contract, he's omitting some very relevant information.
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Sarah Hagie
And if he is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, that means he is quite influential. Like, he's not just, like, some regular guy.
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Sachi Cole
Well, he's actually about to get even more powerful, because a couple of Years later, in January 2013, Bob is sworn in as the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He's the first Latino to hold the job, and it's a huge moment for him. But as he's going through the pomp and circumstance of the swearing in ceremony, the FBI is raiding Solomon's Palm beach eye clinic, along with several of his other businesses, because Solomon isn't just overbilling Medicare for one drug. He's also been falsely diagnosing patients with a retinal disorder called macular degeneration and billing for related tests and procedures. So Medicare fraud. The raid forces Bob to spend his first month as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee playing defense, because now there's a public spotlight on Bob's friendship with Solomon and a growing FBI investigation. Bob tries to cover his tracks by paying Solomon back for two free flights to the Dominican Republic. But he's taken more than a dozen. And remember, none of these flights have ever been disclosed properly. And that's just one part of the investigation. After about a year of scrutiny in 2014, Bob's campaign pays a quarter of a million dollars to retain a Washington law firm and set up a legal defense fund. It might seem like even with all his power, Bob is fully cooked. But he's about to get support from a surprising ally, a part of the government even more corrupt than he is. In April 2015, Bob walks into a stuffy conference room in Newark. He's just been indicted on federal corruption charges related to his relationship with Solomon. But the room is full of supporters who Erupt in applause when he walks in. Flanked by the American and the New Jersey state flags, Bob delivers a speech defending his record as an anti corruption politician. He even evokes his stand decades ago against William Musto. Bob might have a good origin story, but the indictment tells a different one. It includes reams of emails that show Bob interceding to help Solomon with his Medicare fraud troubles, his port security contract, and of course, his girlfriend's visas. The indictment shows that Bob accepted private jet rides, fundraisers, and large donations to his political action committee. Still, he has supporters in New Jersey and in the Senate, where he continues to serve for the more than two years it takes for the case to finally go to trial. Things look bad for Bob. But in June 2016, about two months before the trial is supposed to begin, he gets an unexpected gift. The Supreme Court hands down a unanimous decision in a case called McDonnell v. United States. The decision redefines bribery for politicians so that it only applies if someone is given money or goods in exchange for, quote, official acts. But the justices significantly narrow the definition of what an official act is. They say it needs to be something like calling a hearing or filing a lawsuit. Sarah, can you read how the SCOTUS blog characterizes the changes?
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Sarah Hagie
Yeah. It says to qualify as an official act, the public official must make a decision to take an action on that question or matter or agree to do so. Setting up a meeting, talking to another official, or organizing an event without more does not fit the definition of an official act. So to me, this sounds like you have to receive whatever gift or amount of money and say, this is a bribe and I'm using this bribe to pass this law and that's what counts as a bribe. Otherwise, I guess it's pretty vague.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah. Thanks to the Supreme Court, it is now much more difficult to call something a bribe. And what looked like a slam dunk corruption trial becomes a disaster for the prosecution. Given that the burden is on them, the more confusing things get, the harder it is for them to make a firm case. About a week into the trial, the prosecution calls a woman named Svetlana Busick as a witness. She's a part time model from Ukraine and one of Solomon's many girlfriends who Bob helped get a visa. She shows up to the courthouse looking like mob wife Morticia with long black hair, an all black outfit and blood red nails. Here's a photo of her.
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Sarah Hagie
I mean, listen, this woman is very hot and she does look like someone who would be in the Sopranos for sure.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, I love her immediately. Well, the prosecution wants Svetlana to establish that Bob manipulated the system to get her a visa in exchange for money and favors. Instead, her testimony ends up supporting the defense's argument that Solomon was doing things like loaning Bob a private jet or giving him big gifts. As a friend, she talks about how Solomon called Bob hermano. She insists that the two of them are just besties. When one of the defense attorneys asks if she knows why she's in court, she says no. Instead, she points to the lead prosecutor and says, quote, I don't know why I'm here. He has just been forcing me to be here. She also implies that she finds the prosecutor boring, which sends the courtroom into peals of laughter. As she leaves the courtroom, she throws Solomon a cute little smirk.
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Sarah Hagie
Okay, I love her. And she deserves some kind of award for that performance.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, this is like, what's that scene in My Cousin Vinny like? The defense is wrong, except it's the other way around.
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Sarah Hagie
Yes, that's exactly it. I mean, she's just like, I guess I'm here, but whatever. Queen icon.
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Sachi Cole
Well, Svetlana isn't Bob's only ally in the courtroom. Cory Booker, the other senator from New Jersey, testifies on Bob's behalf. Corey is in his late 40s with a shaved bald head and a wide smile, and he is very charming on the stand. He emphasizes how Bob stands up for the people of New Jersey. And Corey might really believe that. But Democrats are also trying to protect Bob because if he's found guilty, he could be expelled from the Senate. And if that happens, New Jersey's Republican governor, Chris Christie, would get to pick his replacement. All of these defenses add up, and just before Thanksgiving, Bob's case ends in a mistrial. Ten jurors think he's innocent, while only two think he's guilty. After this debacle, the prosecution decides not to pursue the charges any further. Bob escaped this trial with his political career intact. He could go back to his roots and stay on the straight and narrow. But he's about to find a partner in crime who will fill his life with even more plotting and international intrigue. A single mom from New Jersey ever wondered how industry giants like Aloe and Skims dominate the online retail space? The answer is simpler than you think. It's Shopify.
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Sachi Cole
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Sachi Cole
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Sarah Hagie
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Sachi Cole
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Sarah Hagie
Okay, if a Real Housewife, and more specifically a Real Housewife of New Jersey finds you a bit much, that means you are scary. You are a scary person.
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Sachi Cole
I can only assume you are a ball of fire, an active house fire. You are arson.
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Sarah Hagie
Yes, absolutely. Like that is a powerful woman.
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Sachi Cole
Well, there is someone who's always accepted Nadine, her friend Bob Menendez. She first Met Bob in 2008, and they've stayed in touch for the past decade. Nadine calls him every year on his birthday, and today Bob is turning 64. Nadine has always felt a connection to Bob. Like him, she comes from a family of refugees and immigrants. Her grandparents fled the Armenian genocide and landed in Lebanon, where Nadine was born. After a civil war broke out in the 70s, her family moved again, this time to America. Nadine thrived in the US and ended up getting a degree in international politics. But after she got married in 1989, she had two kids and prioritized being a wife and a mother. She got divorced in 2005, and things got rough. Her kids went to an expensive private school, and money was so tight that her house was on the verge of foreclosure. She's been desperately trying to get back on her feet. Her dating life hasn't been going much better. Several of her exes have described Nadine as being extremely insecure and possessive. And in 2010, she was even arrested for entering the home of a man she had been court ordered not to contact. Before the cops took her away, she managed to throw a photo album at him.
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Sarah Hagie
This is a very dramatic timeline, and someone like Bob, who's scamming, might not be a great idea to be around such a loose cannon. I don't know.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, a lot of suggestions could be made here. Well, the most promising relationship Nadine's had since her divorce has been with a lawyer named Doug, who represented R. Kelly and several reality TV clients. And he and Nadine have traveled the world together. But they aren't super serious. They're both seeing other people. Bob's not having much luck on the dating scene either. His last girlfriend recently dumped him because she couldn't take the stress of his legal issues. During his birthday call with Nadine, Bob drops a bombshell. He asks her if she's still dating that Doug lawyer and confesses that he's been in love with her since they first met. Nadine thinks this could be the real thing. Bob could be her knight in shining armor. And just a few months after they start dating, he whisks her away to one of his favorite playgrounds, the Dominican Republic. The only problem is that Nadine is so head over heels in love, she neglects to tell anyone that she's leaving the country, including her children. And even her on again, off again boyfriend, Doug later tells the New York Post that he filed a missing persons report. The situation eventually gets cleared up, but it's an early sign that this couple is madly in love and maybe a little out of their minds. It's March 2018, and Wael Hana is striding towards Capitol hill. Wael is 34 years old with short dark hair and resting bitch face. He's here to meet with his old friend Nadine and her new boyfriend, Bob. And he is desperate. Wael came to the US from Egypt more than 10 years ago after winning the visa lottery. But it hasn't been easy. He's cycled through a bunch of failed businesses, including a limo company, a truck stop, and even an Italian restaurant. He's in dire straits. Like Nadine, his house is on the verge of foreclosure. Wael does have one thing going for him. He's well connected with Egyptian government officials. But that hasn't translated into any real money or power until now. Wael and Nadine became friends a few years ago, in part because they have a lot in common. They're both immigrants who speak multiple languages and work hard. But they just can't seem to catch a break. So Wael hatched a plan. He recently started another business, a halal meat company. And according to federal prosecutors, his plan was pretty straightforward. Wael's friends in the Egyptian government will award a monopoly contract to his company so long as Bob uses his power as the head of the Foreign Relations Committee to loosen up military and financial aid to Egypt. In exchange for Bob's help, Wael will hire Nadine for a high paying, basically fake job. And Bob is already on board with the plan. Wael is here today in Washington to go with Bob and Nadine to a meeting with some Egyptian officials. This is all pretty out in the open. They even snap a picture to commemorate the moment. Here, take a look.
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Sarah Hagie
Yeah, you know, it's a photo in an office. It's very vibeless. It's a bunch of guys in suits. Our boy Wael, Nadine and Bob. And you couldn't imagine three people who belonged together less.
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Sachi Cole
It looks like they just got shoved together into a room. Just three random people.
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Sarah Hagie
They shouldn't know each other or be around each other. That's the vibe I'm getting when I look at this. That screams fraud to me. Really?
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Sachi Cole
Yeah. Well, over the next year, Bob, Nadine and Wael have several more meetings with Egyptian officials. Federal prosecutors later alleged that Bob wielded his power in the Senate to advocate for additional military aid for Egypt and that Nadine worked as a go between to pass along information. For example, at one point, Bob texted Nadine some sensitive information about personnel at the US Embassy in Cairo, and she passed it along to Wael, who sent it to the Egyptian officials. This high stakes game of telephone eventually pays off. In April 2019, the Egyptian government grants Wael's company a monopoly on certifying that meat exports from the US To Egypt are compliant with halal standards. But the plan almost immediately runs into another the U.S. department of Agriculture. The USDA prepares a report warning that this monopoly will increase the costs of halal certification and could even cause a disruption in the US Market. They start looking into the deal, and federal prosecutors later say that Bob comes to Wael's defense, calling a USDA official and telling him not to interfere. I think now is maybe a good time to talk about the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Sarah, do you know what that is?
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Sarah Hagie
I do not know what that is at all. Never heard of it.
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Sachi Cole
Well, it's a law that requires private U.S. citizens to register as foreign agents in order to prevent covert influence. A foreign agent is someone who represents the interests of a foreign country or entity within the United States. And while Nadine could just claim that she forgot to register, people in the federal government aren't allowed to act as foreign agents ever. At the end of the day, Wael winds up keeping his halal monopoly. He's finally gotten a financial foothold in the U.S. but he's also gotten himself involved in a bigger conspiracy. And while he has a cozy relationship with the senator, another part of the government is about to start breathing down his neck. The FBI. It's May 21, 2019, and FBI agent Terry Williams Thompson is at Morton Steakhouse in Washington, D.C. terri, a petite woman in her early 40s, is wearing a black dress, and it might look like she's on a date, but she's actually at work. She's been with the FBI for more than a decade, so surveilling someone at a restaurant is pretty routine. Terry is positioned to observe her target. But then she notices someone else walk into the restaurant. Senator Bob Menendez. Even though Bob isn't her intended target, Terry ends up paying a lot of attention to him and his dinner companions. They include Wael and at least one Egyptian intelligence officer. Terry records everything, but she can't hear most of the conversation herself. That is, except for something Nadine says. What else can the love of my life do for you? We actually have one of the photos that The FBI took of the dinner right here.
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Sarah Hagie
Sarah, this is an incredible creep shot. It looks like when someone is trying to take a photo of a celebrity at a restaurant. It's just like you can't really make anyone out, but you do see Nadine, and she's looking at Bob with adoring eyes.
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Sachi Cole
Just enough to make it to Des Moines, that's for sure.
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Sarah Hagie
Oh, totally.
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Sachi Cole
Well, Terry must pass the information up the chain, because before long, the FBI is on Bob's tail. And a couple of months after that, he funnels $23,568.54 into a fake consulting company that Nadine has set up. The exact amount she needs to save her house from foreclosure and bring her mortgage current. Terry and the Feds are watching carefully and see firsthand how Bob, Nad, and Wael have gotten comfortable dining out on the power of Bob's office. But soon enough, the bill is going to come due. Three months later, Jose Uribe relaxes with Bob and Nadine in their backyard. They're sitting around enjoying brandy and cigars. Jose is a New Jersey insurance broker in his early 50s with close cropped salt and pepper hair. Jose met the couple through Wael last year, and since then, he's been trying to build a relationship with them because, like so many other people, Jose wants Bob's help. One of Jose's associates is being investigated for insurance fraud, and Jose knows that he will be implicated, too. He's hoping that Bob can help keep the Feds off of his back. Jose has already done his part by throwing Bob a fundraiser. And after hearing from Wael that Nadine wanted a new car, Jose arranged a handoff of $15,000 in cash, which Nadine used as a down payment on a new Mercedes. Jose then starts making the car's monthly payments. Lots of Bob and Nadine's texts later become public. So we know what Nadine texted Bob immediately after getting the car. Sarah, would you please read it for us?
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Sarah Hagie
Yes. Nadine texts Bob. Congratulations, mon amour de la vie. We are the proud owners of a 2019 Mercedes. It always is humiliating when we have to read texts between couples. It's so embarrassing.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, I never want to talk to a man again after these.
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Sarah Hagie
Also, that is definitely evidence.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, it sure is. Well, Nadine is obviously pleased, but by the time he's swirling brandy in Bob's backyard, Jose is probably frustrated. Months have gone by since he helped Nadine get her car, and he hasn't heard any real updates about his case. At some point, Nadine heads Inside, leaving Jose alone with Bob. And Bob gives him good news. He's about to meet with the New Jersey Attorney General to talk about the insurance fraud case. But Bob needs to make sure he knows who he's going to bat for. So he summons Nadine by ringing a little bell. And she materializes with a piece of paper in hand. Bob tells Jose to write down the names of his associates and tucks the list into his pocket.
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Sarah Hagie
You know, ringing the bell to summon Nadine is absolutely crazy, but it also does make me think that these two have some sort of sick dynamic that proves they're really in love. I get bribery, and craziness is a big part of it, but they kind of match each other's freak. And I'm sorry to say that.
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Sachi Cole
Okay, cool, gross, and weird and troubling. In any case, a couple of weeks later, Jose sees that Bob has dramatically proposed to Nadine in front of the Taj Mahal. I'm sure you remember that haunting melody from the beginning of this episode. Well, soon after the proposal, Jose gets a call from Bob. He later says that Bob told him, quote, that thing you asked me about, there's nothing there. I give you your peace. In other words, Bob has made Jose's legal troubles go away. Bob is blissfully engaged, and Jose doesn't need to worry about going to prison. But another party is about to butt in on their happiness. It's the middle of December, three months after Bob's backyard meeting with Jose. He's standing on the Senate floor, about to give a very impressive, important speech. After four unsuccessful attempts, the Senate has unanimously voted to formally recognize the Armenian genocide and honor the memory of its 1.5 million victims. Given how much Nadine cares about her Armenian heritage, you can imagine how huge this is for her. Here's what Bob says on the floor. We have just passed the Armenian Genocide resolution recognition. And it is fitting and appropriate that the Senate stands on the right side of history in doing so. It commemorates the truth of the Armenian genocide. It's such a moving moment that even Ted Cruz, who sucks, gets up and says some supportive words. The only person who seems to dislike the resolution is then President Trump, who's mainly concerned with maintaining a good relationship with the President of Turkey, much like a certain New York City mayor.
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Sarah Hagie
Yeah, I mean, that is kind of surprising. He made that statement because it is pretty overtly political, and for some people, it is, like, controversial, Right?
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Sachi Cole
Yeah.
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Sarah Hagie
So further proof that they're really in love. My God.
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Sachi Cole
Well, things still aren't all roses for Bob because A few weeks ago, the feds raided Wael's home and offices and confiscated a ton of evidence that might lead back to him. But for some reason, maybe because he's avoided consequences for so long, Bob doesn't seem worried. And a couple of months after the big Senate vote in March 2020, he holds a secret meeting in his office at D.C. with a general who happens to be Egypt's top spy. This guy has a new mission for Bob. Apparently, Ethiopia is building a hydroelectric dam on the Nile River. Egypt is worried that the dam will cut into their water supply, and they want the project shut down. A few weeks after their meeting, Bob writes to two cabinet secretaries to pressure the State Department to get more involved in the dispute over the dam. This time, Bob and Nadine aren't just nudging more aid dollars towards Egypt. They're potentially interfering with the water supply of multiple countries in a tense region. And what does it get them? In exchange for helping with the dam, Wael buys Nadine and Bob stuff. Things like exercise machines and an air purifier.
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Sarah Hagie
They are so selfish and so focused on their own hedonism that they're not even like, hmm, you know what? There are actual people and countries and, you know, resources involved in this. Maybe we should not get involved and do something smaller to get our exercise equipment.
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Sachi Cole
Rich people always want more stuff, like stuff they can already purchase. Well, a few months after that, in October 2020, Bob and Nadine get married at the Arme Armenian Church of the Holy Martyrs in Queens. Nadine wears a tiered white cupcake of a dress, and they look giddy as teenagers as they cut into their cake. Now, Nadine doesn't just have a new husband. She also has a good reputation. She's becoming known as the woman who convinced the Senate to recognize the Armenian genocide. But Bob is walking on a razor's edge, and he's about to make things even worse by finding another, even wealthier foreign client.
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Sachi Cole
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Sarah Hagie
I feel like it seems kind of like Bob is a lot more interested in helping these randos stay out of prison than doing his job as a senator.
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Sachi Cole
Well, federal prosecutors later say that around this time, Fred's getting Bob's help with another project. Fred wants Cutter to invest in a real estate deal. The Qatari royal family is worth about $150 billion, so getting them to invest would be huge. To help Fred out, Bob has been publicly praising the country. A month earlier, he lauded Qatar for taking in Afghan refugees. And it's a big deal for the country's government because they're taking a lot of heat for human rights violations and for the thousands of deaths related to construction, for hosting the 2022 World Cup. Bob continues to help Fred by attending this fancy party in New York hosted by Qatar. And Fred appreciates it, according to prosecutors. Several days later, as a thank you for securing his connection with the country, Fred sends Bob pictures of Patek Philippe watches and asks him to pick out his favorite. And around this time too, he starts giving Bob gold bars. Just straight up gold bars. Soon after that, Bob and Nadine take a trip to Egypt and Cutter. And when they get back, Fred sends a chauffeur to pick them up at jfk. As they drive to Nadine's house, Bob takes out his phone and Googles, how much is one kilo of gold worth?
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Sarah Hagie
This is so funny because this is an incriminating Google search to me. Like that. Soon, in those exact words, hold off a little bit. Find a way to find out without doing that.
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Sachi Cole
Yeah, we're going to put this on our scam bingo board for sure. But not everything is working out as planned. Bob could not get rid of Fred's charges entirely. So in April 2022. But seven months after the big Cutter party, Fred pleads guilty to federal banking crimes and is sentenced to probation. He was facing down a long prison sentence, so he's still relieved to avoid jail time. And besides, things are going well for Fred. A month after he pleads guilty, the Qatari deal gets the official go ahead. As a thank you, Fred gives Bob and Nadine yet another gold bar. For now, the bars stand as a testament to Bob's success as a schemer. But they're about to turn into fool's gold. A couple of months later, in June 2022, Bob and Nadine make one of their regular trips down to Washington, dc. When they return to New Jersey, they find their home in disarray. The house looks like it's been robbed, but Bob and Nadine come to find that it was actually federal agents executing a search warrant. The agents went through the couple's filing cabinets, desk drawers, dressers, wardrobes, and closets. They seized $480,000 in cash stuffed into envelopes and hidden in clothing. They also took 13 gold bars. When Bob and Nadine see the mess and everything that's been taken, Bob is furious. FBI agents even broke down doors that weren't locked in the first place. Shortly after the FBI served subpoenas to Nadine, Bob, Jose and Wael's Halal company. One gift the Feds are particularly interested in is Nadine's Mercedes Benz convertible. Jose has been paying Nadine's car note, but after the raid, Bob and Nadine know that she'll need to start making the payments herself to avoid suspicion. Nadine meets with Jose and asks him what he'll do if law enforcement comes sniffing around. He tells her that he'll say that the payments were alone. Satisfied, Nadine walks away from the meeting feeling like she's dodged a bullet. And it seems like Jose's approach gives Bob and Nadine an idea for how to avoid looking like they were taking bribes because by December 2022, about six months after the FBI raid of their home, the couple cut a check to WAEL for about 23 grand, the amount that Wael had paid to help Nadine save her house. In the memo line Bob writes to liquidate loan Bob and Nadine may seem like a united front, in love and in lying, but about a year after the raid, Bob makes a strategic move. His Lawyer meets with U.S. attorneys for the Southern District of New York, and prosecutors later claim that when asked about his relationship to Wael and the money that was funneled into Nadine's bank account, his lawyer says that Bob only found out about the payments after the raid. Now this may seem small, but Bob has survived decades in New Jersey politics and one federal indictment. He knows how to work an angle. And this angle is I don't know anything about this. You should ask my wife. Bob knows that an indictment is coming and when it comes down to seeing saving his reputation as a lion of the Senate or his reputation as an all time wife guy, he's about to make his priorities very, very clear. Stay tuned for part two of this series next week. If you like Scamfluencers, you can listen to every episode early and ad free right now by joining Wondry and the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey@wondry.com survey this is Bob Menendez. Bad Romance Part One. I'm Sachi Cole.
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Sarah Hagie
And I'm Sarah Hagie. If you have a tip for us on a story that you think we should cover, please email us@scamfluencersundery.com we use many sources in our research. A few that were particularly helpful were in bygone days, Menendez Fought Graft with Courage by Jim Dwyer for the New York Times Nadine and Bob Menendez's Flashy, Allegedly Corrupt Romance by Nina Burley for New York Magazine and the Case of the developer, the Halal exporter US Senator Bob Menendez and His Wife by Dan Adler for Vanity Fair.
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Sachi Cole
Our associate producer, Charlotte Miller wrote this episode. Additional writing by us Saatchi Cole and Sarah Hagie. Olivia Briley and Eric Thurm are our story editors. Fact checking by Sarah Baum Sound design by James Morgan Additional audio assistance provided by Augustine Lim. Our music supervisor is Scott Velasquez for Freeze on Sync. Our managing producers are Matt Gantt and Desi Blalock. Our senior managing producer is Nick Ryan. Janine Cornelo and Stephanie Jens are our development producers. Our other associate producer is leaving. Our producers are John Reed, Yasmin Ward and Kate Young. Our senior producers are Sarah Enny and Ginny Bloom. Our executive producers are Jenny Lauer, Beckman, Marsha Louie and Erin O'Flaherty. For Wondry, we get support from Chime.
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