Podcast Summary: School of Hard Knocks Podcast
Episode: Andy Elliott | World's Fastest Growing Sales Trainer - On Sales Training, Discipline, Leadership & Entrepreneurship
Date: December 15, 2023
Host: The School of Hard Knocks (James, Jack & Josh)
Guest: Andy Elliott
Overview
This episode features an in-depth, high-energy conversation with Andy Elliott, a self-made sales mogul, entrepreneur, and founder of The Elliott Group (a nine-figure sales/leadership/fitness training company). Andy candidly shares his rags-to-riches story: from poverty and family dysfunction to rapid sales success, leadership mastery, entrepreneurship, and the spiritual and personal transformations that have kept him hungry—and kept him winning.
Key themes include the power of sales skills, relentless self-improvement, the vital role of physical fitness, authenticity, leadership, the failures of mainstream education, and the often-overlooked cornerstone of faith. Andy brings realness, raw language, and actionable advice for anyone seeking to break generational poverty, level up their income, or re-invent themselves at any stage of life.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
Andy Elliott’s Background & Rise in Sales
- Early Life
- Andy’s mother left when he was two; he grew up in poverty with no supervision (00:17).
- He barely graduated due to a tornado wiping out his high school.
- First Sales Job - Life Changing Moment
- After one month of construction, a friend’s brother hired him to sell cars—promise: $5k/month.
- First day in sales: made $1,700 (06:55).
- “Once you realize that, you can find something and then that’s your way out, then you just pursue it heavily.” (01:46)
- Pursuit of Mastery
- Listened to Grant Cardone tapes, relentless practice; by age 20, earning $500k a year.
- “I was making $500k a year by the time I was 20.” (02:14)
- Leadership Evolution
- By 24, transitioning to leadership, learning to train others.
- Eventually built The Elliott Group, now a nine-figure company training in sales, leadership, and fitness—but only after "betting the farm" at age 39.
Breaking the Cycle: Advice for Young Strivers
- Changing Your Self-View & Physical Fitness
- “You’ve got to start seeing yourself differently, which means you got to get in the gym.” (15:26)
- Physical transformation is the first step—for confidence and respect: “Go get in shape, you’re going to walk into every room and people will treat you differently.” (16:05)
- Skill Acquisition & Sales Careers
- Start in any no-barrier sales opportunity (solar or car sales recommended).
- “Everyone should have to knock doors—nothing gets you better at talking to people.” (18:01)
- Develop Attractiveness & Value
- Shake everyone’s hand; people relent to value.
The Core of Salesmastery
- Delusional Belief in Success
- “Before you ever talk to anyone...you’ve got to have a delusional belief that everybody can buy, came to buy, and will buy as long as you do your job.” (21:56)
- Great Attitude and Relentless Caring
- “Have a damn good attitude—people will love you. People just don’t seem like they care and it’s pissing me off.” (23:01)
- Technique: Keeping Customer Goals at Center
- Example: closing life insurance by always tying sale to prospect’s real fear/desire.
- “I kept [the customer’s] goals at the center of the decision… Salespeople don’t sell this way anymore. …They’re all amateurs.” (26:07)
- On Selling Yourself
- “People buy from people that remind them of their friends.” (32:49)
- Equally, be both “professional” and “likable.”
Quote:
“I can knock on anybody’s door and get them to say yes and sell them on the spot. Once I understand that I speak for a living…I make money using my words.” (28:19)
Leadership & Building Teams
- Hiring Philosophy
- Initially, hired those willing to work hard.
- Now, only hires people “who believe what I believe… I only hire us.” (29:57)
- Build a “brand book” for your company—hire only for fit.
- Culture Building
- “You don’t have to be hard, you don’t have to be a dick to make it. You can be really cool and loving.” (05:48)
Overcoming Objections & Closing
- Handling 'No' with Framing
- Reframes objections by returning to customer motivation and vision.
- Example: Home remodel objection (41:16–42:28)
- Confidence as Key Ingredient
- “What was my confidence like when I did that? Through the roof, right?” (42:35)
The Transformational Importance of Fitness
- Fitness as Bedrock
- “If you don't like yourself, you're going to be of no value to anybody.” (16:52)
- “The value that other people get just being around you because you’re in a great mood is, like, dangerous, dude.” (45:49)
- “Everything in life is about habits; good mindset, great opportunities happen.” (46:37)
- Fitness Precedes Opportunity
- “If you don't have a good opportunity… go work out for the next couple months. …Somebody will see you putting the work in… and they'll come shake your hand.” (47:12)
Wake-Up Moments, Family & Reinvention
- Personal Transformation at 39
- Andy’s wife confronts him about neglecting family and letting himself go; he reinvents habits and physical fitness overnight.
- Powerful anecdote:
“[She said] You think the definition of success was you providing for us? Nah… I want a man I can look up to…and that’s not you.” (50:11)
- Immediate response: marathon workout, changed diet, new daily routine, more present at home.
- Marriage, Fatherhood, and Legacy
- “I treat my kids like entrepreneurs. My kids know how to sell… read 20 pages a day, work out every day… because I know we've treated them so good. They're not gonna be raised soft.” (59:29)
Entrepreneurship, Betrayal, & Mindset
- Leaving the Job, Starting Over
- After being betrayed by employer (“we can’t pay you that much anymore”), he quits and—on his wife’s insistence—starts The Elliott Group.
- Self-reinvention via intense fitness/family/community focus and re-learning.
- On New Lives and Starting Over
- “Anybody, at any age, can make a choice right now to go down a different road. … People that suffer as a kid usually kill it as an adult.” (58:04)
Faith, God & Principle-Based Living
- Tithing & Faith During Hard Times
- Andy and wife began tithing heavily while sleeping on mattresses, trusting the process:
“When you trust God with your life and your money, you have no idea what's possible.” (62:34)
- Andy and wife began tithing heavily while sleeping on mattresses, trusting the process:
- Relinquishing Anxiety, Walking in Faith
- “You trust the trash man more than God…you just know he’ll take it. …Cast all your anxieties on God because he cares for you.” (63:50)
- Core Values
- “Do what you say you’re going to do and keep your word…If you lie to me, I’ll never talk to you again.” (66:40)
The Education System & Self-Education
- Critique of Schools
- Schools teach “useless information”; don’t teach character or real-world skills.
- “We should be teaching people how to hold their standard, keep core values, be a good person.” (71:22)
- Andy homeschools his kids with a curriculum for entrepreneurship, Christianity, and practical skills.
- Real Learning Comes from Practitioners
- “If you want to learn real estate, ask the guy who has 1000 units. …Ask the person who’s done it, but not at an average level—at an exceptional level.” (74:31)
- “We’re the educators now; we’ve got to educate everybody.” (75:09)
Legacy, Purpose, Endurance
- How Andy Wants to Be Remembered
- “I want to be the craziest son of a bitch that ever lived. …He told the truth.” (77:55)
- Be direct, loving, call people out to be their best.
- Story of fitness icon Greg Plitt—live as though “this is your last day, and your first day.”
- Perseverance & Outlasting Others
- “You have to keep fucking doing it. …People get bored, you get beat. Enjoy doing the shit other people don’t like to do, and get really fucking good at it.” (84:27)
- “Most people who are competing with you now, in two years they’re going to quit. How bad do you want it?” (93:11)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “People that come from nothing can end up with the most. Usually people crave what they can’t get as a kid—they crave it as an adult.” (05:26)
- “You only listen to what I say. Do you understand? …He was 22, I was 18, but he was better than me and could close any deal.” (14:24)
- “If you don’t have the life you want, it’s because nobody sees value in you to join them on their badass mission.” (19:44)
- “The secret is sales.” (27:03)
- “Sales is a level of confidence that everybody in the room is just drawn to you.” (36:47)
- “If you don’t like yourself, you’ll be of no value to anybody. …Where do you find liking yourself more? In the gym.” (16:52)
- “The value of waking up is more than $10 million.” (46:14)
- “The youth is the most important thing in the world. …Hard times create strong men.” (70:50)
- “I just want to be the craziest son of a bitch that refused to conform, refused to settle, and I want to be remembered for who I am now.” (79:22)
- “The gym has to be a cornerstone of your life. God has to be a cornerstone of your life.” (94:15)
Important Timestamps
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |:----------:|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:17 | Andy’s early life story, poverty | | 06:55 | First big sale, pivotal moment | | 15:26 | Advice for youth: gym, mindset, sales | | 21:56 | “Delusional belief” in sales, technical sales breakdown | | 29:57 | What Andy looks for in hires/teams | | 41:16 | Handling objections, power of confidence in closing | | 45:19 | The link between fitness and financial/mental success | | 49:59 | Family, work-life balance, personal reinvention at age 39 | | 62:31 | Andy on faith in God, tithing, and transformation | | 71:22 | Critique of education, homeschooling | | 77:55 | Legacy: truth-telling, impact, sincerity | | 84:27 | Final advice to youth: consistency, doing the hard mundane things | | 94:15 | The non-negotiable foundations: gym, faith, right peer group |
Final Advice to the Younger Generation
“Whatever you’re going to do, become the fucking greatest and the best at it…enjoy doing the shit that other people don’t like to do and get really fucking good at it. …The gym has to be a cornerstone of your life. God has to be a cornerstone of your life. …Have the courage to walk away from something you don’t want to do. …Anybody can restart. …Do the work that no one else will do, out-self-develop your competition, outwork them, and never be too good to pick up a piece of trash.”
— Andy Elliott (84:27–96:00)
Closing
Andy Elliott’s story and strategy blend no-excuses, old-school work ethic with a modern focus on mindset, self-belief, and omnichannel learning. His advice is clear, passionate, and highly actionable: Begin with self, commit to daily excellence, lean into discomfort (in the gym and in life), master sales and leadership, surround yourself with winners, don’t be afraid to say no, and always keep your word.
Find Andy Elliott on Instagram @officialandyelliott and on YouTube.
Recommended for anyone hungry to break through limits, begin anew, or build an unshakeable foundation of discipline, salesmanship, and principle-driven leadership.
