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What's intelligence? Ashley Llorens, Chief of the Intelligent Systems Center at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab, has a good idea. He joins us to talk about intelligence of the human-type and the machine-type, and what it will take for machines to get up to speed. We'll take some caller questions, including one from Ahmed, who wants to know: will AI eventually take away our motivation to learn? Plus, Ashley talks about the connection between being a hip hop artist and a machine learning engineer.

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