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Diana Rossini
You do Invisalign, right?
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James Palmer
I do as well. I'm closing up.
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Diana Rossini
You always have it in. I never have mine in. Is yours in?
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James Palmer
No, not right now.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I, towards the end, I've really.
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James Palmer
Gotten pretty lenient with this.
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Diana Rossini
I know it's bad. They're, they're like, can you journal and document your daily progress? I'm like, have you do, have you met me? I, I, I, I don't even have a calendar.
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Chris Branch
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James Palmer
Captain's log. My Invisalign today. Oh, welcome into Scoop City on a Wednesday. I'm James Palmer. We have some huge matchups in week 11. The slate could determine what happens moving forward. Don't forget to like and subscribe, please. Do it, do it, do it, do it. Thank you. We have the fallout from Brian Dabel today. That's going to be a big topic of discussion that Diana Rossini and I are going to go through now. We're going to push that one forward. Maybe some candidates, what they're looking for, the search group and everything it entails going forward in New York with the Giants and then Monday Night Football fallout, essentially what's going on with the Packers. Matt LaFleur in the Hot seat. Pump the brakes, but we'll talk about it. Also, what's going on with Philadelphia's offense. Still not where they want it to be, but they are winning football games. And then lastly, we're going to talk about some teams that really need to turn the page and turn really around what they've been doing in week 11. Can they do it? We'll find out. Broncos offense might be one of those things as well. With Bo Nixon Co. I welcome in m good friend, my BFF Diana Rossini. The Athletics senior NFL insider joins me now. We're having some camera issues. I was looking a little jaundiced earlier. We were talking about appendix. We were doing all sorts of things. You're talking about your spleen and playing with a pillow on your side. I don't think we're playing her today. I think we're doing pretty good.
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Diana Rossini
We're good. We're good to go. I woke up today thinking it was Thursday, but it's not. It's one of those week. I feel like time is just messing with me. Maybe it's the holiday stuff, all those conversations and the decorations up. I just don't, I don't know what day it is. I don't know where we are. All I know is we are get, we're close to getting there. Where to me the best part of the season begins, which is of course the playoffs. But until then I feel like I'm still kind of struggling figuring out the real versus the fake because I think we're gonna get some answers soon on that.
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James Palmer
We're getting there. And you mentioned the holiday season. I think do the boys have a, a Home Alone Lego set? Did I see that in your inscript story?
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Diana Rossini
How cool, right?
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James Palmer
Harry and Marv, let's go.
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Diana Rossini
It's the most detailed Lego I've ever seen. We saw it in at a store and I'm like we need to get that because A it' favorite holiday movie but B, what a cool decoration to have in our house. So it's the Lego version of Kevin's house from Home Alone and even Marv has the iron burn on his face.
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James Palmer
Oh so good.
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Diana Rossini
So a four year old and a three year old Obviously can't do it. So Kevin is spending about an hour a night doing it. And we're. We're coming along, so I can't. I'm gonna show you. How about this maybe, like, when we're done. I'd love to show you guys a picture of it because it's really.
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James Palmer
Yeah, show me. Because that house is outstanding, by the way. I wish I lived in the McAllister.
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Diana Rossini
They have a tree house, too. And there's so many. Marv's van. Like, all of it. It's. It's everything.
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James Palmer
So, yeah, another day we get closer to Christmas. I'll tell you how I tried to go from my bedroom to my treehouse a la home alone when I was 11. And I'll tell you if it worked or not. All right, let's move on to Brian Dable and the New York Football Giants. Diana, we. The news happened when we were doing our show live on Monday when he was relieved of his duties. Where can you push this? And I think we need to maybe push this forward in terms of where do the Giants go now? Mike Kafka is their interim head coach. He has already made a major decision saying that it's going to be Jameis Winston that is Jackson Dart's backup. But Jackson Dart not healthy enough to play in this game with the concussion protocol. So it will be Jameis Winston. You oftentimes see an interim coach make a little bit of a move right away just to kind of go, hey, guys, just so you know, I'm in charge and if it was up to me, I would make this decision.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah. And look, he knows this offense very well because how many times have we seen Brian Dable and Mike Kafka go back and forth on this play calling? So he is really comfortable calling this offense. And I think we'll see some really good things. He has a lot of support in that building. He's got tons of support in the locker room. Mike Kafka is one of those coaches even around the league outside New York, he's really, really well respected, obviously going back to his days in Kansas City when he was coaching Patrick Mahomes. And that's really when we started to hear a lot about, about Mike. So here we are now. And look, there's been a lot of conversations about, all right, why did Brian D. Get fired and not Joe Shane? Like, to me, that became the story after the news broke. I almost felt like that was the story over the firing because I don't think it was surprising that Brian Dable was Fired. And it was pretty clear that I think most around the league think he's a respectable offensive minded head coach. Excuse me, offensive mind and play caller. Maybe the head coaching thing for him just, it just isn't for him. Now that being said, why is Joe Shane still the general manager of the New York Giants? I've had some people point to the 2024 draft where they were able to come away with some good players. A lot of starters came out of that draft. I've had some people share with me things that he's done internally in terms of staffing and managing, things that are, that have nothing to do with the draft process and things that you think just typically NFL GM does in terms of being you know, perhaps like the CEO of this company. He's really well liked by ownership. That, that has never been in question. I've observed it myself. I've had conversations with people in New York. Joe's Shane is, is very well liked and I do think there's a belief that he can be part of this process for the future. I don't, I don't get the sense this is. Let's see how Joe can GM over the next few weeks until we get into the new year. From my understanding, they want him to be part of this next process.
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James Palmer
Okay, let me ask you this. And I do know you're exactly right. A lot of the behind the scenes stuff, modernizing their entire draft process, kind of maybe pushing them forward technology wise in terms of how their scouting department operates. A lot of things they like behind the scenes that Joe has done. But I look at some past head coach openings. Let's go down to Jacksonville this past year. It was. What were you hearing on one perception of that job with Trent Balke still in place and the perception of the job after Trent.
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Diana Rossini
He was what a great.
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James Palmer
That's apples to oranges, right?
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Diana Rossini
I didn't even think about that, James, because you're so right. Like going back to last year, nobody wanted the job with Trent Vy there. Ben Johnson interview was like get rid of that guy. And maybe it was. And look, I think it was known maybe even after the fact, but obviously because we were talking to so many of these candidates and these teams going through this, it was very apparent. Like that was almost the theme of that last coaching cycle outside of is the leader of the men coaches going to get jobs. I'd say like the 1B story was nobody wants the Jacksonville job because of the general manager. So I know what you're doing here. You're Taking that example of is Joe Shane going to hurt the future of the New York Giants? Is his reputation as bad?
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James Palmer
No, not exactly that. It was. It was this. Could a general manager being in place limit your candidates? That's essentially what I'm getting at. What if a certain candidate is really high on your list but wants to bring in their own general manager? So how does that exactly work? Listen, we've seen this work in other places, right, Diana? Like we've seen Peyton, and Peyton are working really well together in George Payton and Sean Payton, and that was a head coach coming into an existing general manager. I think we're seeing Ryan Poles and Ben Johnson work. We're seeing Mike Vrabel and Elliot Wolf, and he's brought in some of his own people. But, like, it works for sure. But I'm just curious with. With keeping your general manager in place, could this change? Does this limit your candidates? Do you think that plays a factor with him being a part of the search committee?
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I think it is a great point to make. And I wonder if Giants decision makers have thought about this and considered it. Now, look, I think most owners that keep a general manager in place are doing it because they believe that they can find the right coach. But then you've got, like, other factors that play into this. What's the personality that Jo Sheen's going to want in his next head coach? Will his own personal, his own personal agenda get in the way maybe of who he would bring in? Would he need to really like and have experience with this person? Like, to me, Luana Rumo comes to mind. Right. He's got a great relationship with Giants ownership. He interviewed really well before Brian Dabel got the job. He has a strong relationship with Joe Shane. They go back to their days in Miami. So it is a very good point to make and something that's going to be, I think, a factor in who wants the job, which I think this is another good conversation to have. Is this an appealing job? Very, very appealing is how I would describe it. And it's because they've got a quarterback, they've got a great left tackle, they've got a good tight end, they've got a number one wide receiver. They've got a talented defense. You know, they've got good ownership in turn. You know, that's one thing from talking to Brian Dable over the years, marquee franchise.
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James Palmer
Yeah.
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Diana Rossini
You know, Dable was never hiding behind that. He was. It did not matter how bad things were getting in terms of wins and losses. He always spoke so well of ownership. And that's not always the case. It seems obvious, right, because it's your employer. But he never, he never got into the weeds about things that he didn't like about them. He really respected them. So that being said, I think this is a job that even with Joe Shane running being part of this process, I still think there's going to be tons of coaches that want to work for the New York Giants.
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James Palmer
Totally get it. Totally understand it. We will have names, maybe we'll toss around because Chris Branch has a question for us later in the show. Dana. So I'll leave the names part stick around where we dissect kind of a couple of candidates potentially for this job. Now, we had a lot of eyes on that Monday night game. Well, if you're watching from YouTube or not watching from YouTube, your eyes weren't. You were probably just watching on like an app or something. But Matt LaFleur and the packers come up short to Nick Sirianni and the Philadelphia Eagles. And I thought this stat was insane. I just wanted to throw it out to you. 66 straight home games, 66 straight home games the packers had won with allowing 10 or fewer points, including the postseason. The last, I'm not sure what that was. The last quarterback to beat them there, Jim Harbaugh was the quarterback of the Bears with Mike Ditka, but this was a good defensive performance. Offense, not so much. But Eagles also dian offense still kind of. We're not sure if that's AJ Brown on Twitch or not like streaming. What's happening? Are we still seeing some disjointedness even after the buy from this Philadelphia Eagles offense that is concerning. Or was the packers defense, which it is pretty good and played a part.
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Diana Rossini
In that the Eagles are winning games, bottom line, and that is all that matters in that organization. They actually don't even really care about October and early November, truthfully. And when I say they don't care, it's all about making sure that they're peaking and playing their best football come January. And that's just the focus in that building all the time. So while I know there's been some panic from us, from fans about oh boy, this doesn't look good, A.J. brown's not happy they're not scoring enough points. They look disjointed a bit. The run game's not even close to being the way it looked last year with Saquon Barkley and that offensive line. But I don't sense any panic about what it is in Philadelphia. And I think that's good. And then this is what they're very what they excel at at over other teams where I feel like when you have drama in some org and I say drama, by the way, the drama is.
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James Palmer
High. You have to manage personalities.
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James Palmer
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Diana Rossini
Correct. And I do think Nick does a great job at it. And look, you could argue why hasn't the head coach pulled A.J. brown aside and say, stop tweeting about it. Let's keep all of this in house. Let's be a family. We don't need the rest of the world dictating what we need to be doing in house because it is distracting and they have no say because they don't know what's going on here. Because that's what players will tell you. Like you, we think we know, we don't know. So in that regard, I just think we have to give them a little bit of grace as they are managing this. And look, the question we always have, especially in the sports world, is like, are you panicked? Are you patient with these guys? Like, I'm not. I'm not as panicked about the Eagles as I once was because I do think this is where they thrive. They like to figure this out. I am interested to see, though, how they're going to manage A.J. brown because it's obviously not getting any better. Do we know if it was his twitch? And by the way, if it's not his twitch, who is that? And because that person's very frustrated.
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James Palmer
That person is very frustrated. Their family is okay, but they are not happy with what's going on. Every single thing outside of their family. I don't know who that was and I'm not. Listen, while we're taping this, it may come out. Agent may speak to the media after we tape this and say, that was me. I was out there playing as the field of Eagles. But listen, we're just going to take it as we're not entirely sure yet. So we're not going to break it entirely down. I will agree with you, Diana saying this. Do the Eagles turn the football over? No, like, hardly ever. Do the Eagles play good defense? Yeah. And talking to people there yesterday it was, oh, do we have one in Jalen Phillips? And now our pass rush is better. And they're getting Nolan. They got Nolan Smith back. Like, they're getting healthier on defense. And so also some of these explosive runs we saw last year with Saquon Barkley, they're kind of there, there was almost a moment or two that they happened on Monday night. And if those happen, I think the conversation is completely different. So, hey, how about a couple of explosive runs? Saquon doesn't trip. Something happens in the secondary where he doesn't get knocked off his feet. And the conversation is completely different because that's the way they played a lot of games last year. On the other side of things, Dinah, unless you have something to say about.
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Diana Rossini
The Eagles, you brushed over the Jalen Phillips thing. Let's give it a little bit more punch because he had an immediate impact. You don't often see a new player join a team. He just looks like a new dude, too. Like, I've been watching all the clips that they've been showing of him in the locker room and. And he's just like, he's just all in. He's playing right into the Philly way. And this was a great move, you know, by the Eagles front office here in making this trade, despite the fact that he had a lot of interest around the league. But that's the Eagle side to it. The Green Bay packers certainly have some issues here, too.
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James Palmer
Yeah, they certainly do. And there's two things. There's an article in the Athletic by our good buddy up there, Matt Schneider, who says. Who says, is Matt LaFleur coaching for his job? Is his seat hot? Now I understand why he's saying this, because in his article, it makes perfect sense that Brian Gudekust and Matt Floor have this year and next year on their contract. That's it. So there could be a decision to be made after this season. There is a new president in place. So that decision with someone new making it also makes you scratch your head. But the part that makes me think that this is something somewhat to monitor just, just for. For this sake, Dinah, is this. And hear me out. You broke precedent as an organization this offseason. You thought you were a player away from the Super Bowl. So you went out and did two things you never do, which is you drafted a receiver in the first round to help out your quarterback in Matthew Golden. You went out and made a massive trade for Micah Parsons to get that player that you believe, the closer, if you will, to get you over the hump. Two things that this organization just doesn't do. And where are they right now? They're sitting in seventh place in the nfc. The exact same place they finished each of the last two years. Which makes you kind of go, well, we did our job as an organization. Why aren't we seeing the results on the field. Do you see there's anything to this or are we just seeing a team that's been up and down this year?
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Diana Rossini
I think the argument you lay out is a real thing, for sure. I don't think that's just you making a good observation about essentially the how this has lined up. And, and I think it's fair. And I think Matt Schneidman, our beat reporter who does an excellent job covering that outstanding is, is really tapped into what's going on there. And, and, and I'm sure has had conversations with people around that organization in regard to how it's viewed now. That being said, I had a lot of conversations with people around the league on Tuesday about the future of Matt Laf. Really hard to find people who looked at it the way you just did and were instead looking at it as. Matt LaFleur is a phenomenal coach. He's a winner. And I think he is one of those coaches who, you know, we view a Mike Tomlin and now perhaps even a Kevin Stefanski, where okay, well, if this organization doesn't think it could work with them, there will certainly be others that would hire Matt LaFleur in minutes. So. And look, sometimes we could do a whole show about this, right, where sometimes coaches time with one team just run out like it's just not a fit. Obviously, the best example is always Andy Reid in Philadelphia. No matter how much success he had, he just couldn't get over that hump. And it's a good example because it shows that you can still succeed if you don't succeed in one place. And I'd even argue he, he had tons of success there.
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James Palmer
I just think four straight NFC championship games.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I love that the Green Bay packers are evolving as an organization, but I still personally believe that Matt LaFleur is the right coach for them. Maybe they just need to practice a little patience with all the changes that they have and allow him to sort of figure this team out. I think this, like, I don't think the packers are dead. Like, I still think they're going to make a run in the playoffs and we're going to see the impact of this Micah trade. I can, I feel like I can almost guarantee it, but I know I can't do that.
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James Palmer
That's okay. I get it. I get it. And you lose Tucker Craft, who was becoming like the go to weapon of the entire offense and you got evolving pivot a little bit again as an offense. And I do think some people are just curious going, like, I do think Matt's a really good coach. I've been waiting for this Jordan Love to become the guy I keep hearing about and I think Jordan Love's probably part of that. Everybody organization goes. I think that is there. I think it's still there. But why haven't we seen it yet? I think these are all questions that are part of that. Real quick, before we go to break, do you have anything for since we're talking these two teams. Jair Alexander is been put on the reserve retired list today as he is going to step away and take a moment. The Eagles just traded for him a couple of weeks ago by giving up, I believe a sixth round pick getting Alexander and a seventh back. But now it looks like he's going to be stepping away from the team.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, he's certainly going through some things and if I think you've, you've definitely interviewed Jair before. I have many times. He, he's unique. He's a different kind of guy and I say that in as a compliment. But he moves to his own beat. I do think for him from talking to some people close to the situation, he needs a break. He needs to take a step back here and figure out what he wants to do for his life. Nobody gave me any intel and pointed to something specific like an injury. That was the reason. This seemed way more mental that this is more I just need to step away to get my life in order to see what I want to do next. So look, he obviously is set to retire here, but I am curious to see if maybe, maybe he has a change of heart in, in all this because I can tell you this has been known for, for a few days here with Philadelphia having healthy conversations with him and his representation and I almost felt like it was changing by the hour, like he could stay. He, he had a good week of practice. He apparently had one practice where he was a stud. So this could be just one of those flip flop things. But for, for, for now the Eagles are moving forward as if he's not on the roster.
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James Palmer
Yeah. And remember they have a coach in that secondary and Christian Parker who was J.R. alexander's coach in Green Bay when he was using him so well. So they do have somebody on the staff that knows him really, really well and they have a very good understanding kind of about how he ticks and so we'll see what happens here. They bring on Jacorian Bennett and activated him. So a corner for essentially a corner. And this is kind of how the Eagles operate, Diana. They throw as many darts at some of their problems with, you know, getting guys for low picks and just seeing if a collection of them can fill this cornerback spot, whether it's Michael Carter or J. Alexander or Jacorian Bennett or whoever it is, see if they can, they can fix it.
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Diana Rossini
It's never easy, right? Like, there's always. That's why whenever a head coach is complaining about what they are dealing with, whether it's injuries, roster problems off the field, it's like you are not alone. Every team has something. There's just, you know, we talk about the black cloud constantly on the show. And yes, it does seem like some teams have more of it, but no one's just coasting. No, no one is just like everyone's healthy. We all get along. We're all in the right met, you know, headspace. I mean, you hope that's the case come the super bowl, but that's never the case.
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James Palmer
It's never the case. Go ask Bill o' Brien over there at Boston College. Listen, it's getting kind of late for some teams right now to turn things around. Week 11 is here. I hear Diana kind of chuckling with that. And can any of them turn it around? Is it over for some of them? Week 11 could be huge for some teams. It's getting late in the season. We'll tell you who we have our eye on coming up next on Scoop City on a Wednesday covering the NFL. I get to have the best food in the country as I travel from city to city. But when I'm not traveling, Ooh, and I want those delicious tastes. I use Gold belly. That's what I do if I want Franklin's Barbecue when I go cover a pro day at the University of Texas in Austin. I get that sent to me when I go see the Seahawks. And I like Pike's Place up there in Seattle. Well, I get that sent to me here in Denver. It's this amazing site that I order from all the time. It's where you can get the most iconic famous foods from restaurants across the United States. They will ship it anywhere in this country. It's perfect for hosting Thanksgiving without the stress. And with Black Friday around the corner, it's a great time to pre order holiday gifts that ship right to your door. My mom has done that for me now multiple times, being from Philadelphia, shipping Pat's cheesesteaks out here here to the Rocky Mountain region. Gold Belly can ship smoked turkey from Salt Lick Barbecue in Texas. Savory sides like lobster Mac and cheese straight from Maine. I have had that multiple times now. It's outstanding desserts like New York's famous Juniors cheesecake and more. It's unbelievable. One of the things I love doing super bowl all the time. I go to Commander's palace down there in New Orleans. I miss that place. I can taste it when I'm sitting on a Sunday afternoon watching, watching football. Well, I get Commander's palace sent right to me here in Denver. It's unbelievable. So if you're looking for that perfect holiday gift or want to impress your friends and family with an epic Thanksgiving, go to GoldBelly.com and get 20 off your first order with promo code Scoop. That's GoldBelly.com code Scoop for 20% off your first order.
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James Palmer
Welcome back to A Scoop City on a Wednesday. James Palmer, Diane Rossini with you and Diana. What's the old saying? It's getting late, early. I think it's a saying. I just made it up. Maybe it's getting late for some teams as we approach week 11. Here to turn things around and we'd like to discuss a couple of teams going. Is it do or die time or is it over? I want you to throw a team out there where you go. It's now or never for.
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Diana Rossini
The Cincinnati Bengals, guys 3 and 6. Time to win some games because the best site in all the land, Joe Burrow, is around her facility. He's shucking the ball around and there's hope. Hope that he's going to be able to return. Hoping for December. Right? That's kind of the timeline we've all been discussing a bit. We'll see how this lines up. But look, most of the the divisions in front of them. If the Bengals can figure out how to win These games, they actually have a shot at winning the division. I, I don't know how that's possible. I don't know how we're here at this point, but it's. It's now or never. Like it's go time. And, and look, maybe there is a little bit of competitiveness and, and juice behind the reason of a very. Joe Burrow coming back, right? Because I, he is back earlier than I expected. Like, full disclosure, I, I did not know that this. It was going to be this early. If anything, I was leaning towards him coming back later. So I, I just think him being around the facility, being happy, right. Like a happy Joe is a good Joe. It's just the targets right there. They just got to go win some games so he can come back.
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James Palmer
God, if they would have just won these last two that they totally should have won. Diana. Right. Like, we'd be. We'd be really interested in what's happen. Burrow coming back. But listen, Chase has already written them off. That happened on Monday show. He said say it. Write it down. I wrote it down. He said their season's over. So we're not saying it though. When he's not on the show, we.
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Diana Rossini
Can say that he's annoyingly right. Sometimes though, it's. It bugs me.
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James Palmer
It's all right. I'm going to go with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are in the postseason right now. They started 4 and 1. They are 5 and 4. They've lost three of their last four. A crushing loss to Davis Mills and his neck. And the Houston Texans by blowing that massive fourth quarter lead. This one. I want to see if they can hang on. It looks like the Texans are getting better, obviously with a bunch of issues on their offensive line, a new offensive play caller, but we know how good that defense is. They've been living by the turnovers. As a defense, that's been a bit of an issue. This defense has allowed more than 20 points in six straight games. 30 or more points in two of their last three. Like, they're kind of hanging on. Travis Hunter goes down now for the season, who was their big acquisition. And we had heard Diana right during the draft and leading into this season that James Gladstone, Liam Cohen were all kind of like, we're way more talented and a better football team than most teams think we are across the league. Now's the time for them to kind of prove that to see if they're there. Because the Colts are just running away with the division. We have the Chiefs who are behind them in the playoffs. Who we just all assume are going to make a jump ahead of them. It's kind of. It's getting late early here for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Do you have anybody else you'd like to discuss?
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, it's certainly go time for them. It's also go time for Bo Nix with the Denver Broncos. Right.
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James Palmer
Okay.
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Diana Rossini
This is a team that's also winning. Right. But they're not going to be able to do this every single game. They're. They keep coming out of this as winners, figuring out ways to win, whether it's the mistakes of their opponent, a little bit of luck, which is all good. And it happens.
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James Palmer
Yeah.
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Diana Rossini
But we have seen Bonix here in year two not making the progress that we expect. The year two quarterbacks that we're seeing around the league make like in the mix of those that are in, whether it's Caleb Williams or Drake May, even Jaden. I know the injuries, they are to me, ahead of him, which I, I didn't think I'd be saying. I consider it a bit. I thought Bo would be in it. I thought he'd be with the pack and he just looks behind and I. It's. Now he needs to turn the corner here and, and this offense needs to start clicking if they want to really, you know, make a playoff run and beat the Chiefs. Because. Because that, that this is the team that they believe they can beat. They were close to doing it last year and yeah, right there they talk about it. They talked about it with us in camp. So I expect a good performance from Beau, but this has to be the game where we go, okay, he's back. Or this is why Sean Peyton believed in him so much. Because right now I think a lot of people are questioning it.
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James Palmer
Yeah, this is. Tell me if I'm wrong. Just answer. Give me a yes or no answer on this is Sunday at home against the Kansas City Chiefs, the biggest game in a decade for the Denver Broncos.
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Diana Rossini
Now I got to pull up this damn schedule from the last few years. It feels it. I know why you're saying it. It right feels that way. It's been so long since this team has been good and last year there isn't a game I can point to by memory that makes me go, oh, that was. That was huge. Obviously, playoffs and stuff. But to me, this tells us what they are going to be, right. They have all the confidence in the world that they can beat the Kansas City Chiefs. That is without a doubt, this is a team that had the Lombardi Trophy up in their PowerPoint presentations. During meetings, going back to summer. Right. So I don't think they're going to be scared. I don't think they're scared at all. Bo just needs to perform. He needs to lead this team.
- [32:56]
James Palmer
I think you're exactly right. I did their game on Thursday night. I don't know how I was able to get through that entire game against the Raiders, but I sludged through it. And being in that locker room, there is a vibe in there with the way this offense is playing and talking to guys on the other side of the ball dynasty. As a defense, we can't even play an okay game and win. Like, with the way our offense is playing, we can't even have an off week. That's the way that defense is feeling. And I know there's frustration on the offensive side of the ball as well, because when you see the other side play so well, you start going, man, we are holding this team back. Our side of the ball is holding this team back. I put out a tweet this morning and then we'll move on. Bo Nix in the fourth quarter has the second most total yards, the most touchdowns, the most first downs, and I believe the most completions over 10 yards in the other three quarters. There's only one player with a lower completion percentage. That's Cam Ward. There's only one player with a lower yards per attempt. That's Dylan Gabriel. There's only two players that have thrown more interceptions in Geno Smith and Justin Herbert. He's dreadful in the first three quarters.
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Diana Rossini
It's not even clutch. It's just like. It's like he's sleeping and then he wakes up to just put a bow on this. I mean, you can't talk about a Kansas City Chiefs team coming off a buy without giving The Andy Reid stat. 22 and 4 coming off the Bye, baby. So Denver's got their hands full. It's not a good time to face Andy in the Chiefs.
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James Palmer
Face Andy and the Chiefs, who? We were talking about it, me and the producers yesterday. They are outside of the postseason right now. They are sitting 8th in the AFC. If it started today, they would not make the playoffs. They also, according to BET mgm, have the best odds to win the Super Bowl. That is the Kansas City Chiefs in a nutshell. That is who the. That's who the Broncos are going against on Sunday. And it's a massive measuring stick not only for this defense going against Patrick Mahomes, but what kind of offense is Sean Payton running the second half of the year with Bo Nicks running the show. Are you writing something down right now?
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Diana Rossini
Important I'm writing that down because I thought that was really interesting.
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James Palmer
Isn't it?
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Diana Rossini
Say it one more time.
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James Palmer
The the the Kansas City Chiefs sit at eighth right now in the afc. If this playoff started today, they would miss the postseason. And to put that into context, they've been to the AFC Championship game of the last eight years. But if you go to bet mgm, they still are the betting favorites to win the Super Bowl. Fascinating.
- [35:26]
Diana Rossini
Beautiful. I love it.
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James Palmer
Fascinating. Fascinating. Okay, coming up we have Chris Branch is going to be asking Diana a couple of questions. One we already did tell you is going to be Giants related. We'll talk about some names. The other one holiday related and food. Our two favorite things.
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To Scoop City on a Wednesday. James Palmer Darion Orsini with you and we have one more block coming up and this is one we love. On Wednesdays, Diana, we get asked a question. We get to see some beautiful setups. Chris Branch once again has a question for us. Chris, take it away.
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Chris Branch
Hello again friends. I am back here. I have my basketball goal behind me. I am not in a bathroom at the New York Times anymore. Anymore. I am so compelled by the Giant situation. Just because of the quarterback, of the timing, the pie in the sky name I thought of, that I have not seen anywhere, by the way, outside of maybe some hopeful message board fodder. Is Lane Kiffin. Is there any possible way the Giants would consider him? I mean, he is the hottest candidate on the coaching market in college right now. He happened to coach Jackson Dart for three years at Ole Miss.
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Would you even go there? And if not, what is your perfect candidate for the Giants job? Because I just see so many different directions with the talent there and the situation, the GM's situation. Like who would you pick? If no restrictions were there, who would you pick?
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James Palmer
Oh, that's a good one. I like that he brings up the basil hoop all the time.
- [38:29]
Diana Rossini
It's our thing now.
- [38:30]
James Palmer
I'm glad he's. I'm glad he's out of the bathroom. All right, Diana.
- [38:34]
Diana Rossini
I would like him to shoot hoops while he asks his question.
- [38:37]
James Palmer
He should do one of those where he goes like this where he throws it over his shoulder and then goes, oh no. And then it doesn't go in. And some everybody there tells him it went in. Yeah.
- [38:46]
Diana Rossini
Speaking of nailing it, they want to nail this head coaching search for sure. I mean, I, I really did not believe that John Mayer wanted to fire Brian Diebold in season, that the Giants organization as a whole, they don't like to do that. So here we are now. They've. They got a little bit of time here where they can have some real conversation about what they're looking for. They're not going to feel pressed. They can look in the college space, they can look in the NFL space. Up and coming, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators. I'm going to answer the last question he asked, which was what do we think the Giants are going to be looking for or what should they.
- [39:20]
James Palmer
Okay.
- [39:20]
Diana Rossini
And I do think this is a very typical pattern in the league where when one thing doesn't work, you tend to go in the other direction the next year. So they obviously just did the offensive minded coach, which I'm cool with. I get the Brian Dable hire when they did it. In fact, there was some of Brian Dable being the head coach of the Giants with Jackson Dart. That was also great for, for them, but it didn't encompass everything. Some mutant on on Twitter said to me, would they hire Brian Dable to be the OC and it was a funny comment, but also I was like, God, that would be kind of great because that just tells me that we all know truth is, which is he just wasn't great at the big CEO role, the head coaching spot. So look, we see Ben Johnson, he had success, right? He came on board as being the offense coordinator. He's done a great job at figuring out how to run the show there. So look, I have not lost hope in the talented OC but I think it's time for the Giants to bring in accountability, to bring in the type of leader who's going to be involved in both sides of the ball, special teams as well and make sure everyone the best players on on this team are holding their share of this and living up to what they are being asked to because I think that was some of the things that we're missing. So to me it's the leader of man but it's really truly the best leader that can have control and handle the New York market.
- [40:54]
James Palmer
Let me ask you this. You talked earlier about maybe it's just time. Sometimes coaches are in one spot and then when they go to the next there's even more success. Andy Reid, you said it is the poster child for it. Diana we go what if this is the first year we don't see Mike Tomlin have a winning season? What if it's time in Pittsburgh just and sometimes that happens and they part ways. Would Mike Tomlin be a dream fit for the New York Football Giants?
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, I think.
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James Palmer
Is that what you're looking at?
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Diana Rossini
Love it. They would love it. Our colleague Ian o' Connor who covers.
- [41:32]
James Palmer
The he wrote a piece about it.
- [41:34]
Diana Rossini
Well, he wrote about it and as soon as I saw it hit my feet up.
- [41:38]
Chris Branch
Mike.
- [41:38]
Diana Rossini
Oh man, he's onto something because that it does make a lot of sense. On the counterpoint to that, look at how many people we see leave New York and have success in Saquon and Daniel Jones and Leo Williams. Maybe Brian Dable will go somewhere else. I don't think he'll get a head coaching job but I don't think this is the last we're gonna hear Brian TABLE I think he'll get a gig somewhere. But look this a lot of things would have to happen in order for Mike Tomlin right to and look it's always get it always a little a little spicy at the end of the year with him, with what he's doing. Every time I see Mike in a.
- [42:13]
James Palmer
Little time taken, there's just a little.
- [42:15]
Diana Rossini
Yeah, very good and hard to get. He always tells me he's tired, which is funny. Well, he says that in a complaining way, but he's been doing it a long time at the same place. And, and there, there is something to be said about a change of scenery. And there is nothing like coaching in New York. There is. You will. I have talked to many of coaches who've been fired, have been other places. There's nothing like it. And I say that in a good way, but I think that's a candidate that has got to be enticing. If they hear, if it's a reality, it's just. Is it a reality?
- [42:51]
James Palmer
Well, let me ask you this. And I've always wondered this, and it's never talked about it. I don't hear anybody having discussions around the league about it. So let's have this really quickly before we go to second question from Chris. Why don't more teams try to trade for coaches, the Titans, everything.
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Diana Rossini
Everything. They didn't want to do it in Tennessee two years ago because it was too complicated. Like, imagine just not doing a trade because you're like, this is just too hard. We're not going to do it. We're going to fire you.
- [43:18]
James Palmer
But, like, why don't more teams try to, like, poach a coach and just be like, listen, we'll give you three first round picks for Kyle Shanahan. Like, why does anybody say that?
- [43:26]
Diana Rossini
Think about how much we value that position. Right? Like, it's, it's a, the same thing. You need to have the coach and the quarterback, so why not go in on the right?
- [43:36]
James Palmer
I don't get why it isn't. Yeah. I don't get why teams aren't more aggressive to be like three first rounders. Okay.
- [43:43]
Diana Rossini
Right now the New York Giants should trade with blank team to acquire their head coach. Right now, it could be anyone. It could be anyone. It could be Sean McVeigh. It could be Kyle Shanahan. It could be like going through the list of who would be topsies, who would be good in New York, though, I do love all the connections.
- [44:11]
James Palmer
Yeah. But I mean, like, if you're going to trade for anybody in the league, I would assume you'd give up the most for, for Sean McVeigh. I would think just, I mean, you look at Andy's age and you look at where he's at and, and everything that's. That's around him, I would assume that Sean would be the answer. But like, like, San Francisco is looking to fully rebuild and you're going to be like, we'll give you, you know, maybe it's just time. Kyle's knocked on the door a million times but hasn't quite gotten there. That's very similar to Andy Reid in Philadelphia. And you just go, hey, we'll give you three ones for Kyle Shanahan. I mean, I don't see it happening, but my point is, I just don't know why teams aren't more aggressive towards trading for A, I know it's hard because if you're a good head coach, teams aren't giving them up.
- [44:49]
Diana Rossini
But, yeah, I feel like if the Niners could give Kyle Shanahan, like, a contract that never expired, they would do it. Like, they just love him there.
- [44:57]
James Palmer
And we're talking about unbelievable coaches. And that's the reason I'm bringing it up.
- [45:01]
Diana Rossini
Yeah.
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James Palmer
Chris's second question is roll it back.
- [45:07]
Chris Branch
I have seen the Christmas creep every single year. It's filling up the shelves at the grocery store. It is at every trinket place. I know you guys have covered the holiday creep in there. I am a Thanksgiving respecter, and I have one hot take is that when I go to the grocery store, I see eggnog already on the shelves. I think eggnog is a reprehensible drink that should never be consumed. So my question is twofold. Do you like eggnog? And should you be respected as a human being? And B, if not, what is your seasonal. What is the seasonal thing at Christmas time that everybody loves that you think is great?
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James Palmer
Chris, respectable human being.
- [45:51]
Diana Rossini
Chris is also someone I would love to have at my Christmas holiday. Like, certainly he'd stir the pot.
- [45:57]
James Palmer
He'd get the conversation going.
- [45:58]
Diana Rossini
Yeah. And he's like, in my house, everyone's so tense and we fight so much.
- [46:02]
James Palmer
Probably talk about everything.
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Diana Rossini
Yeah, yeah. Like, he would. He would sit with my dad and talk about plumbing and probably know something about it. Okay? So here's the thing. I always buy it, okay? And this isn't one of these things where I sprint, you know, through the grocery store to be like, oh, I gotta get the eggnog. I always just buy it because it represents the holiday to me. And when I do drink it, it's like a half a cup. And I drink it like whiskey. Like, I just sip it, but I like it. So I'm trying to think of a good comp to that in my life where something I don't want all the time, but I don't mind it. And it does it. The taste of it brings me holiday cheer, so that's probably why I drink it. But I'm definitely not going out to dinner Going, yeah, you know, I'll take a water and an eggnog. Yeah.
- [46:56]
James Palmer
Like. Like, you're not. Like, it's like, not mid January, and Diana's like, you guys still have eggnog. You don't. Yeah.
- [47:02]
Diana Rossini
You do run out really quickly, though. I've noticed, like, my grocery stores are out of it really fast because I think a lot of people like, what about you? I. I could see you as an eggnogger.
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James Palmer
Yeah. It's like, I want to get kind of drunk, but I also want some pancakes. It's kind of like what I feel about eggnog. Like, I feel like you could be drinking it and putting it on a. On a hot plate and making some eggnog pancakes. Listen, I. I'm fine with that. If it is alcohol, I drink it. My one thing that I do not like about the. He said Christmas, and I was gonna go Thanksgiving, but I'll go the Christmas time.
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James Palmer
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- [47:39]
Diana Rossini
Hate it.
- [47:39]
James Palmer
Like, gross. Gross. You know what we do in the Palmer household? I'm gonna tell you right now, for Thanksgiving and Christmas, we smoke a prime rib. We're not doing turkey. We don't like turkey. We're smoking a prime rib outside on both those holidays. Screw turkey. Screw ham. Prime ribs. Where it's at. Little creamy horseradish. Let's go.
- [47:59]
Diana Rossini
Fancy. That is so fancy. That is my dream. We. We have family fights about this every year. First of all, in the ham camp with you, I'm. My brother walks in with that freaking ham. I'm like, get it out. No one's eating it yet. My boys eat it. My husband eats it. I'm like, oh, gross. And just like, why? Like, we don't need.
- [48:20]
James Palmer
Because you're supposed to kick rocks. That's gross.
- [48:26]
Diana Rossini
The prime ribs started in our com. My dad did it years ago. We stopped chopped. It's expensive. Like, you know that. And it takes a type of. Oh, good. It takes a good cook to really make a good prime rib. And so we. We've assigned my. My father in law to do it, and then we pretend that Kev does it to give him credit. But it definitely feels elite on Christmas when. So I can't believe you do it on Thanksgiving too. Like, that's wild to me. That. That. That sounds like a great plan in our house. You, like, again, it's.
- [49:02]
James Palmer
Again, it's the main dish of Thanksgiving, yet everybody I talk to is just like, it's all right.
- [49:09]
Diana Rossini
Like, we never eat it. Think about it. It can't be that good if we never eat it outside that day.
- [49:14]
James Palmer
Exactly.
- [49:15]
Diana Rossini
It's not like pizza or a hamburger. Things that we would want to eat monthly.
- [49:20]
James Palmer
You get a Thanksgiving plate in the middle of July at like some barbecue. No, but I'll get like a prime rib sandwich some. Somewhere Certainly sounds great.
- [49:27]
Diana Rossini
Wait, so do you host both holidays, by the way?
- [49:30]
James Palmer
We host. We host Christmas. We go to my sister's house, sister in law's house for Thanksgiving. But I bring a prime rip that I smoke at the house.
- [49:39]
Diana Rossini
Oh, God.
- [49:40]
James Palmer
And I bring up.
- [49:41]
Diana Rossini
I. You would be my favorite brother.
- [49:43]
James Palmer
Like, I'd be a good brother. I think you.
- [49:46]
Diana Rossini
You bring the food to like no one in my family does. They just come and criticize my freaking food.
- [49:53]
James Palmer
Yeah, we had moose tacos last year for Thanksgiving because my brother in law shot a moose and we had moose tacos. How about that?
- [50:01]
Diana Rossini
That is different.
- [50:03]
James Palmer
We're here in wilderness out here in Colorado.
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Diana Rossini
We have so many deer that I would. I could understand why you would want to. Well, moose are me. Moose.
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James Palmer
Moose. It's just moose.
- [50:15]
Diana Rossini
We've done this before.
- [50:16]
James Palmer
Mooses. Yeah. Moose. Moose.
- [50:19]
Diana Rossini
Because you hit a moose.
- [50:20]
James Palmer
I almost did. That would have been. I wouldn't be talking to you if we hit that moose, but yeah. Okay.
- [50:27]
Diana Rossini
Wait, were they good?
- [50:28]
James Palmer
They were really good. They were excellent.
- [50:30]
Diana Rossini
Do you put regular things that you'd put on tacos on a moose taco?
- [50:34]
James Palmer
They're kind of just in the shell and you have the flavor of the natural meat, which is kind of like the main part. You don't really jazz them up like. Like you're not putting a bunch on there.
- [50:44]
Diana Rossini
I.
- [50:45]
James Palmer
They're kind of solo. But he's also a butcher. Like, so he, he took care of everything himself. So.
- [50:50]
Diana Rossini
Dude, I need to. Can I get treated to your family? Like, everything that you are laying out is a dream.
- [50:57]
James Palmer
We love to have you. And then my wife's Hispanic, so we do tamales on Christmas as well.
- [51:02]
Diana Rossini
I hate my life. I want your life. Let's end the show on that note. That I want.
- [51:06]
James Palmer
I don't want your laugh.
- [51:08]
Diana Rossini
I don't want your life.
- [51:10]
James Palmer
Perfect end right there.
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