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Chase Daniel
I hate anytime you're doing something, signing up for something, or doing anything like that, if they ask you a favorite movie and a favorite TV show, I hate that question so much because I'm like, no, there's a thousand shows that I like. I don't. I'm not just obsessed with one movie or one show.
James Palmer
Wait, what are you signing up for where they're asking you this question?
Chase Daniel
Well, you know, there's all sorts of things. There's like a credit in the middle.
James Palmer
Of a quad of a school where you're signing up for a credit card.
Chase Daniel
Yeah. You know, or like anything. You're getting interviewed and they're like, okay, lightning round. Favorite movie? I don't know.
James Palmer
Lightning round. Like, what do you use? Do you use exactly what you're saying or do you just say one? Do you have Shawshank Redemption? I put TNT non Stop.
Chase Daniel
I just, I think I always put, if I have to write down a favorite movie, I put Titanic as a funny like thing. It's really not my favorite movie, but my wife's one claimed.
James Palmer
Welcome into Scoop City on a Monday. I'm James Palmer. Don't forget to like and subscribe because this off season is going to be outstanding because we have the one, the only Chase Daniel joining me throughout this offseason as he's going to be breaking everything down. Look at his excitement because this is a quarterback special episode. We're going to talk about Fernando Mendoza. We're going to talk about these free agent quarterbacks, maybe some guys that could be traded for changing teams. Is that Tua? Is that Kyler Murray Chase giving us his two cents on all the quarterbacks, whether they're coming out in the draft, whether they're coming out in free agency, whether they're available via trade. We'll cover it all. We'll also talk about the NFL PA grades that we're no longer going to see. Chase has an interesting tie to that. How are you, my friend? I gotta start off with something. I'm scrolling through the socials on this weekend.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, there they are.
James Palmer
Drew Brees, Travis Kelce, Jason Kelce. Give it a tip of the glass to the one and the only Chase. Daniel, what was your reaction when you saw the video of Drew saying salary per snap, greatest NFL player of all time.
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Chase Daniel
I know. That wasn't the only thing he said. So Drew, like, everyone knows if they follow show, right? Drew lives literally like 10 houses down. We live on the same street. And I was his longest tenured backup. So he views me as like the little brother that he can just like poke and prod. And our kids go to the same school. Like, we play in the same league and football, like all this stuff. And so, dude, when Drew gets going on these stories and he has some amazing stories, he just like lets it go. And I think that showed his personality. But also it's like I played with all three of those guys. All three hall of Famers play with Jason, obviously, in Philly in 2016. And then Kelsey, I threw him his first touchdown pass. It was in the preseason, but I threw him his first touchdown pass. So for those guys to come at me like that, that was pretty funny. No, but it was. So the Saints person, Alex Restrepo, who runs social media for the Saints, they knew he was on. So he was like listening at the premiere. He's just like, dude, you'll never believe what they just said, like, they talked about you for a minute. They sent me in, and then, you know, the nose guard comment. Then my team, we were like, oh, we got to put something on social media because it was too funny. So it was. It was good.
Jennifer
Those.
Chase Daniel
Those dudes are. Are good people, man. Like. Like, Kelsey is like, you know, we spent three years together. He's one of my boys. And it was. It was cool to see, so it was cool to respect, too. That paid JMac, because JMac played there, too. Receiver for the Chiefs. And so Jack was my guy in Mizzou. Yeah. So it was really cool.
James Palmer
Yeah, that was. I mean, also, I heard from Kels. He's like, hey, Chase at Mizzou now. Like, that was something.
Chase Daniel
I was like, yeah, that's right. That's right.
James Palmer
Yes, that was. That was outstanding. Three great dudes. I know them all well. Too well. The Kelsey brothers. More than. More than Drew, but great guys. We're going to get into supporterback talk here. Chase, you have done a lot of work on. I don't know how many years we've had in this with the draft where it goes, okay, we just have one guy. One guy will be the number one overall pick, and it's Fernando Mendoza. So everybody, especially in Raiders nation right now, as we tape this, is fascinated about Fernando Mendoza and what they could potentially be getting. We'll talk about the fit with Clint Kubiak, maybe the fit with some of the weapons he'll have around him. But the first thing I have to ask you is what stands out most when you talk about a guy who is the surefire number one overall pick in this year's draft? What stands out to you most about Fernando Mendoza?
Chase Daniel
That's a great question. I would say it's the one thing that you can't measure in its heart. It is heart, absolute heart, and what that means for a quarterback. You're like, oh, how do you measure it? I'm like, how do you. Like, you can't. There's measurables and there's intangibles. Right? And so he is very, very high on the scale of intangibles. And so when I look at him and I. And I've talked to him, like, he's. He's like, the nicest dude. I put out a. This is funny. I put out, like, breakdown on my Instagram channel and YouTube channel, and we have a little bit of a connection because Chandler Whitmer, who is now the quarterback coach in Tampa Bay before the year, ended up texting me we spent time with Chandler. I spent time two years in the LA Chargers quarterback room. He was the assistant quarterback coach. He was literally sitting right behind me. I also, I also coached Chandler Whitmer, okay, at the Elite 11 camp. Remember that? Elite 11 camp? I was a counselor, he was a court. So it just goes like way back. Anyway, before the season, Chandler reaches out to me, hey, send me what you and Drew and Justin did week by week by week by week, because we want to know. He, like Fernando, wants to know how, how he should prepare. So we went through what a Monday looks like, what a Tuesday looks like, what a Wednesday looks like, so forth and so on. And at the end of the year, he was on the triple option show with Mark Ingram. And he brought that up based on how, like, I was able to tell Coach Whitmer and then Drew Brees plays into it because I was with Drew. So long story short, he followed that entire routine, that sort of breeze sent that set that I took, so forth and so on. So it's a lot of connect the dots. Anyway, I posted a breakdown of him and he just reaches out over Instagram dm, like, hey man, you don't know how thankful I am for your routine. Like, let's chat, let's do. So, Like, I just saying that because like, he's just like such a nice guy and I'm talking about heart. That was a really long circle to connect. But the heart, like most guys aren't built like that. Most guys aren't going on Instagram trying to figure out like, hey, who can I say thank you to? And just everyone, like, everything I know about him, like his teammates love him, like his teammates love him. And I think that's half the battle, but it's just for me, it's got to be hard.
James Palmer
Okay, I like that. I like that. You're right. I don't know anybody who has a resume through just one season, maybe as a starter that can show, you know, the entire NFL. Look at my heart, my toughness, my ability to rise in adversity within a game in certain moments. And those are all obviously massive traits you need to have at the NFL level. What I'm fascinated about is, is do you think this needs time? And I say that with not just him, but with a first year head coach, a roster that has a number of holes. It almost has the appearance chase that like, hey, year three, if, and I'm just saying this, if Clint Kubiak can still have the job by year three, that's just what happens in Vegas and it happens with Mark Davis and maybe it seems like he's taking a step back. If you realize he wasn't up there on that dais that they had up there with Clint Kubiak. He was actually sitting in the stand, sitting in the seats. I've been to a number of those with the Raiders. That's usually not what Mark Davis does. He's trying to take a little bit of a step back, though. This is a roundabout way of saying with everything that needs to happen in Vegas, do you feel like the marriage between Clint and Fernando needs. Needs a minute to breathe and hopefully we get that with the Raiders.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, I mean, look, I, I think he can be successful from the start. Like, look, it's a very difficult division. We know that. With what the way the Chargers have risen with the Broncos, obviously. And then dude, like the Chiefs are still the Chiefs at some point. Like, you have Mahomes, you have the best quarterback in the world. So it's probably the. The toughest division to come into as a rookie quarterback because you know, you have Herbert, you have Knicks and you have Mahomes and then you have Mendoza. But I, I love the fact. Let's just rewind. I love the fact one, and I'm saying this right now on February 16th, fast forward to a year from now. I might not be saying it, but I love the fact that, that like they went offensive head coach and I love the fact that Tom Brady was so involved in that. Like these hirings and potential number one draft pick and they just scream Tom Brady. And so for me, you get the offensive guru who has been really good everywhere. Look back to his, even his Saints year under center play action shots. Then you go with Sam Darnold and do what Sam Darnold does. I think that Fernando Mendoza can have success from the start. Now here's what probably a lot of people aren't talking about is that Fernando really didn't play a lot under center.
James Palmer
Bingo.
Chase Daniel
And Clint, Clint Kubiak is a heavy under center play action. So I think that is going to be the tell in how well he progresses. And this is a very important time for Fernando to go out there and train all under. We know what you can do. Shotgun. We know that Fernando loves RPOs. We know that that's just sort of the college offense. The one thing I love about this though also is how insanely smart that Fernando Mendoza is because that offense is no joke. You have to. You have multiple kills, you have multiple run progress, you have multiple pass progressions and so when Fernando is there with Clint Kubiak, I don't think they're going to have any mental hurdles and that is the number one. I think the physical will catch up to it, but there's going to be no mental hurdles. So it's not going to be like Clint Kubiak is going to be in his offense and be like, hey, I need to do this or I need to do that or I like, no, this is the full offense that they're going to run.
James Palmer
Okay, I love that. I think that's right. Only 3% of his snaps at Indiana were under center. So you're right. This is something that just he didn't do a whole ton of. And, and with this in the way you're kind of putting this together, I'm also looking at. We had Jackson, Smith and Jigba get 44% of their receiving yards. It was an offense based off of really just one player in the passing game. I'm kind of curious and I want your take. Brock Bowers is a tight end. Yes, it's different, but the number of places that you saw Glenn Kubiak put Jackson, Smith and Jigba in the backfield in the slot, out wide. Even though it was out wide, I think 80% of the time he still moved him around. My point is you can put Brock Bowers anywhere on the field to create whatever type of matchups you like. Is that something you could see them leaning on right out of the gate? And how do you see this offense that you know? And with Fernando Mendoza utilizing Brock Bowers who if we just. I feel like we forgot two years ago there were people I talked to around league saying this is already the best tight end in football.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, I mean, dude, that's a great point. And look, Fernando is going to go number one. He's going to start from day one. They're going to name him the starter from day one. Rightfully so. And the quarterback's best friend, in my opinion, in every offense I've been to is the tight end. Like, how can you if stuff's not there? Let's check it down. Like Bowers, if I'm a betting man, which, you know, I'm not, I don't really bet a lot. I would bet the over on like he's going to have over 100 catches. Like it's one of those things if he stays healthy, you know, knock on wood. But then you have Ashton Genti too, that no one's like, he's, he's going to become a better Receiver out of the backfield, I think so. Brock Bowers and him, I think are, are great. Here's the thing. I think offensively they're going to be fine. Like, they need to, they have to not need to. They have to do something about the offensive line. Like, I don't think the offensive line play is great at all. And, and the biggest thing that Fernando had at Indiana was his line man. His, like he wasn't getting pressured. The ball was coming out quick. He makes quick decisions because a lot of these things are like with, with Mendoza, he's sort of like an old school quarterback in terms of. Because he's so smart, you don't have to give him just all progression reads. We've been through this James on this channel before, right? Hey, just go to number one, then go to number two to go to number three. You can give half field progressions and cut the field in half. Hey, here's what we want to go against cover four. Here's what we want to go against cover three. Hey, here's your man beater in your head. That's what this offense is going to be. Now how quickly they're able to do that and get on it is going to be critical in this division.
James Palmer
Okay, that leads me to my maybe last question on Fernando. He's not throwing at the combine. And so what happens in Indianapolis next week with Fernando Mendoza? Because I have kind of a thought and you kind of touched on it there. He's got to get up to speed quickly. Could this be a situation where I remember a couple of years ago, the Bears taking full advantage of their time with Caleb Williams. It wasn't like a, you know, hey, an interview process. It was like, hey, let's start thinking, hey, we need you to start working on these things. We need you to start doing this. There was a lot of like getting a jump start before things even got going and picking him. Do you think the Raiders maybe lean into that a little bit with Fernando Moser going like, hey, meet at the combine or we need you to work on this. We need you to work on this. Does that conversation you think already start next week?
Chase Daniel
Absolutely. I mean, look, there's no. Because of the draft and what the Raiders need and the fact that the Raiders, they're picking Mendoza, like, like go ahead and turn the slip into the draft and just be like, hey, we're, we're picking our guy. And so yeah, this is extra time. I mean all these little things, right? You got, you got the combine, you got his pro day. Where he's going to throw to you got all this other things. Of course he'll meet with other teams but if I'm Clint Kubiak, I'm like Here's the first 12 plays of install in training camps. Learn them. Yeah. Or here like in a lot of, a lot of teams. Send this to guys pre combine. I would send the whole playbook if you. I don't know the rules yet. I'm so far removed from it. But like send the whole playbook. Like I'm sure Mendoza's already asking that. You know the one thing too that a lot of people don't talk about is like and a lot of people struggle with in terms of rookie quarterbacks, you know last, not last year but two years ago with the Knicks class and Caleb, that one's a little bit of an aberration because it wasn't the case. Your rookie year, okay. Is the longest year of your life because if you think about it, right, Mental fatigue really can start to play in. Because think about. Let's just take Fernando Mendoza, right? He transfers from Cal, let's go back back. Transfers from Cal, comes over to Indiana, okay. He's starting winter conditioning right away. Like he is on the mats. He's starting winter conditioning. Then there's no break. Then it's right into spring bowl. He's spring ball and he's, he's practice. He's learning a brand new offense. He's doing all this stuff. You might get a two or three week break in summer, then you're back in the summer. You're training with your guys at the, at the camp, right? Like that's what you're doing. Then you're right into fall camp, right when you're in a fall camp. And then you're right into this insanely way too long. We need to do another episode on it season of college football, right, which you play and then you're right in. There's no break at all. You're right into training for the combine and then once the combine's here then you're right into the draft and then you might get a two week break but you're studying. Then you're right into spring ball OTAs with NFL and then you get a six week break. That's a good break to sort of. But if you're a rookie quarterback you're working and then you go right into preseason and then you go right into this. So you're two straight years of football and that can be mentally taxing on a lot of guys. How Mendoza handles that. I think. Think we'll tell how the season goes with the Raiders.
James Palmer
Yeah, I think it's a big part. And his football IQ obviously helps him there. His ability to kind of pick things up quickly helps him there. But it doesn't, it doesn't negate the fact of everything you just listed that you have to consume and, and be able to digest. Okay. Asking around, I know it's early and, and there's so many different pieces to the puzzle within the draft and specifically at the quarterback position. It's obviously the film that you put on tape out there. It's obviously the meetings that you have. You mentioned the combine. There's going to be visits, there's going to be your pro day there. All these different aspects that the teams put together when they look at these quarterbacks. As I kind of ask around in this early process, there's one other name that's coming up as a first round pick and that's Ty Simpson out of Alabama. And what I'm kind of hearing, as I mentioned all the different pieces, Chase, is this is a name that maybe as you keep gathering those pieces and putting it together, might start climbing a little bit once teams get to know him better. Why am I hearing that you think?
Chase Daniel
Yeah, I think there's no doubt that Ty Simpson's a first round quarterback. And you're going to have two, two guys go in the first round, will be Mendoza at one and it'll be Ty Simpson. The. That's, that's when the intrigue for me starts going is like, where does he go in the first round? How high does he go? Does a team know that really it's Mendoza and then to me it's like the next level down is Simpson. And then to me so far it's a pretty big drop to that third tier of quarterbacks. That's how I have it sort of tiered. I think Ty can be a starter in this league given the right learning curve, the right people, all this stuff, if you really look at him and break him down even two years ago and then, and then last year where he, before he got hurt, he was the best quarterback in the country. He was, he was the best quarterback in the country in terms of just about everything. Ball placement, accuracy, throwing on time. I mean, he was rolling. He was rolling. And it was really impressive because Alabama was like, man, they got, they finally got like a legitimate, like a first surefire. And then he got hurt and that played into it. And so I think when teams get over the sourness of like, oh, how the, how the season ended, like game 7, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and on then I think you really to pull back the curtain on what you're going to get. And to me, the one thing that he does, he's got a strong arm, he's extremely accurate, he's extremely in command. It's just how do people see and perceive him around the league? Like, do they. If you're a first round pick, man, you, you're a starter like you're starting, right? It's like it's all that. And so I think it'll be fun to watch and see how this entire process plays out. Like Jets, Steelers, Rams, like those three teams to me are teams to watch for him in the first round. And then what's your sort of progression plan on him? Like obviously if you go to the Rams, you're not starting right away, but Steelers probably not so. But it's a good thing. Like let them sit for a year.
James Palmer
Yeah. You mentioned those teams. The jets have two first round picks, second one is at 16. The Rams have two first round picks, the first of which is at 13. That's kind of the spot that a lot of people are kind of looking at with, with Ty Simpson. And I think there is that intrigue, right. Chase of. He's played under center a lot. He's run the play action game, he's turning his back to the defense. He's done things that you're looking for your quarterback to obviously have to be able to do at the NFL level. And you know, maybe the one knock is he just wants a play to go on forever. Don't worry, I can still do something. I can still make something happen. You know what I mean? There's that aspect.
Chase Daniel
That's the one thing is his pocket presence, right. His fear constantly. Like that's one thing you got to like figure it out. But he does play in a pro style. Like it's a pro style offense to your, to your thing.
James Palmer
Yeah, exactly. And my understanding was I think he got sick the second half of the year. He lost some weight, I think a good amount. There was just some other, other aspects in play there. Him landing with the Rams. You mentioned the Rams. Yeah, I don't know. Just in my head I'm just going like, boy, I know I'm not starting right away, but if I'm Ty Simpson.
Chase Daniel
I'm going, let's go.
James Palmer
If I'm going to the Rams in that room. Right.
Chase Daniel
I love it. I mean you're, you're sitting behind A future hall of Famer. You're sitting behind the MVP. You're sitting, you're learning from, like, Sean McVeigh. I, I, like, like, I, I think any quarterback, forget about Ty Sims, I think any quarterback that goes to the Rams is the winner of the draft if they draft them high enough. Because, like, you have a chance. I know they love Jimmy G, right? But you have a chance to be like, the next guy with Sean McVeigh. Like, Sean McVeigh can, like, he is like, obviously next level. But you saw like, sort of what, what dark. What happened to Darnold, right, in San Francisco, learning behind Kyle Shanahan, learning what Brock Purdy, like, he says, Sam Donald says that that year was the best year of my life. There was no pressure on me to play. I learned everything. I was able to, to. To up my game and develop. I mean, something like this for Ty Simpson or Nussmeyer or Carson Beck or whoever's. I think it'll probably be Ty Simpson quarterback, too. But whoever gets drafted there, man, they're winning.
James Palmer
Yeah, they're certainly winning. You mentioned Nussmeier. That's the last one. I'll touch on real quick here before we get into some of these guys that could be changing teams. And in the next block here, what do you see from. From Nussmire? Obviously, the pedigree is there. Obviously, we saw two years ago, I think there was after that season a lot of high hopes. And then this year didn't maybe go exactly the way obviously he have wanted it to go. But where do you see his game translating and where do you see maybe something he has to work on?
Chase Daniel
I think Garrett Nussmeier has the chance to move up the most out of any quarterback in the entire draft in the pre, in the, in the preseason process or pre draft process because, like, obviously teams are going to work his film and I've watched a couple of his games and, you know, it's. It's. It's hit or miss. He gets stuck on. On reads. He gets a struggle with pushing the pocket. Like, he's not an athletic guy in terms of. Can't just escape every single pressure. But then there's these plays that you're like, oh, my gosh, like, the arm shines like a, Like a deep shot to the field back shoulder, like all these deep throws. It really, really works. And I think, you know, to. To his credit, he played really well at the Senior Bowl. Impressed a lot of people at the Senior Bowl. Sort of got his name back out there because A lot of, lot of people, including myself, sort of soured on him after the first couple of games of the year, like, and he never really lived up to it. But you got to imagine, right, when you're in this process and you're these teams, you know better than anyone. James. Right. They're not drafting you what you are right now. They're drafting you based on your ceiling. How much can we develop you if you got all the things that my team needs and a team might fall in love with them in second, third, fourth round. Like in. There's been a lot of great third, fourth round quarterbacks that play a long time in this league and start. So he's definitely the most intriguing one and I think he's the one who has the most to gain through this entire process.
James Palmer
I love that I'm going to follow him. I'm at the combine, you know, see what happens. Yeah. Third, fourth rounders, you got Russell Wilson, got Dak Prescott, two examples there.
Chase Daniel
You know, Kirk Cousins, dude, where you.
James Palmer
Can totally do it. Yeah, 100%. We're going to talk about some of those names Chase just hinted on Kirk Cousins. Where could he be playing in 2026? We're going to break down where some of these guys could be headed. Maybe what some of these teams could be doing at the quarterback position. With the quarterback shuffle happening in this offseason. More scoop city coming up next.
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James Palmer
Ollie. All right, welcome back to Scoop City on a Monday. James Palmer, Chase, Daniel with you. We told you this was a quarterback heavy episode. Oh, you're getting it. We're gonna talk about some of these free agents, maybe Chase, some of these trade possibilities because it is an interesting quarterback landscape. There are a number of teams, you could say maybe eight or nine that could be looking at quarterbacks. And as we just talked about it, there might only be two that we're seeing taken in the first round of the draft. So how else could you acquire your signal caller? Obviously you have free agency, but that really the cream of the crop there, it seems like in a lot of people I talk to around the league is Malik Willis. You have the likes of Joe Flacco in there. Possibly you could have Kirk Cousins added to that group when most likely he's going to part ways with the Falcons. And we could go back to Atlanta. We'll get to that. You know, Jimmy Garoppolo, I think there's. There's some names. That's why I want to start with the intrigue of possibly trading for a quarterback. Whether that's Kyler Murray, whether that's to a tongue of Violoa, whether that's Mac Jones, Even though the 49ers say that they're not going to. I think everybody is tradable outside of about a dozen players in the NFL. So a number could always come into play that maybe the 49ers didn't think they were getting. But the first player I want to talk about is. Is Kyler Murray, because I think you do like his game. Chase. He is probably maybe the most talented quarterback out of all of these options that we're talking about that could be changing teams.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, there's no doubt. I think for me, the only person of this group, and you have to. Kyler Kurt. You know all the guys you said. When I look at Kyler Murray play and I look at what his ceiling could be, and you look at spurts of the season, 3, 4 game stretches over his career where he's played, and I've said this before and I truly believe it, he's played like a top five quarterback. And then there's these spurts where it's just like turn the ball over, get sacked a lot. It's like. It's like completely different players. So when I'm looking at the trade market, one I'm looking at, if I'm teams, what is this quarterback draft like? And outside of Fernando Mendoza, not great. So what does that lead me to? Okay, let's go to free agents, let's go to trade. And then. So they go trade, then free agent. And you look at Tua or Kyler maybe you know, all these things. To me it's Kyler because given the right circumstances and the right players around him, I think he can succeed. Now. Now what I've heard, I don't know the guy personally is he maybe wasn't the greatest teammate of all time. He wasn't maybe around. You know, everyone knows about the, the. I don't want to say the greatest teammate, but like there's some, maybe some off field issues. Right. How much does he love the game? How much does he do this? Can he stay healthy? All this stuff. And that's a. If you're going to trade for a guy like Kyler, like, you got to be really aware of how that affects your locker room. We know what he can do on the get on the field. There's no doubt about it. And I like Kylie. Kylie went to a rival high school of mine, Allen High School. And I remember watching him play. Yeah. And he was. He's unbelievable. But I would say like of the group to me, like Kyler makes a lot of sense for a trade. It's just like how much are you willing to give up? Right. Draft capital for a little bit older quarterback. But if you look at the draft, right. This is a good year to be a free agent, slash trade viable quarterback.
James Palmer
It certainly is. Now his contract is probably more complicated in the trade aspect than two is to his is just like one year, $54 million, obviously a boatload of cash that is fully guaranteed. But Kyler's is guaranteed over the course of two seasons, which makes it a little bit more complicated. It's 36.8 in 2026 and 19.5 in 2027.
Chase Daniel
See, that's a bargain.
James Palmer
That. Do you think that's a.
Chase Daniel
Okay, like if you average it out, right. It's 38. I don't know. I can't do math on top of my head. It's 28 million, 30 million a year.
James Palmer
It's 56.3 total, fully guaranteed for the two years. Right.
Jennifer
So.
James Palmer
So I do get what you're saying. I just think that makes a trade a little bit more complicated. I think what everybody's trying to see is how much would the Cardinals be willing to eat? Are you just gonna, are we gonna wait you out and he gets just fully released and then you can do what you can sign Tua or Kyler at the league minimum and either the Dolphins or the Cardinals respectively are, are paying the entire salary essentially for, for one of those two guys. What do you see? Do you have a fit for Kyler? Do you have a.
Chase Daniel
No, like, like not necessarily because it's just Kyler is. I don't think Kyler can fit every single offense. You have to be willing to sort of fit your offense around Kyler and build your offense around Kyler. Because I do think like when Petsing was in, you know, Arizona, like I like the under center play action. Heavy 13 personnel. He to me, to me Kyler in a Jalen hurts style offense and rpo. Spread it out like actually let him do his thing because he's still really good athlete. That's what makes sense to me. And a lot of times you're saying these trades, right, with, with Tua and Kyler, right. A lot of teams will eat a certain amount of the salary because you're getting, you're. You're buying a pick in essence for them. So if you're going to get okay, hey chase, take on 12 million, I'll give you a third on pick. Okay. Like, yeah, like it's, it's been done quite a bit before. So I think for sure it's, it's, it's hard. But also that's how these teams are thinking.
James Palmer
Totally is. I think the Brock Osweiler trade buying a pick was maybe the most blatantly obvious purchase of a pick by, by the Texans. I believe it was right when I think they bought a pick to get send them to Cleveland. Okay, well, I think a couple of these teams are fascinating. We're going to get back into where the players may fit. But the Vikings, what are you looking at in Minnesota? They've been pretty open about saying, you know, they maybe would like a veteran player in that room with J.J. mcCarthy. You know, they kind of wanted to bring back Sam Darnold, but it didn't work out. They wanted to bring back Daniel Jones, but he opted to go to Indianapolis. Where do you see the Vikings quarterback room in 2020?
Chase Daniel
Great, great call. No clue. I mean like, honestly, like you look at the veterans out there, bro, if Kirk Cousins goes back there, like, I'm sorry, like I love Kurt, but that's a year fix, right? And it's just another band aid on it maybe two Maybe probably a year fix. I mean Malik Willis I think probably ends up maybe with the Dolphins. You're gonna say I would do it. Yeah. I wonder why. Way to go out on a limb there. Chase. Malik to me is the only one that is a lot. Has a lot of intrigue to me. Right. Because of like what he's able to do running the football and just how well he's been able to develop as a passer from his Titan day. Like all that stuff makes a lot of sense. But you're looking at these guys, right? Like Aaron Rodgers know that ship sailed last night. Kyler Murray, I mean probably not to know. Like, so there's not a lot of choices and there's not a lot of options. Like, like if I. No, I mean, well, maybe that's not a bad idea. Right. Like does it. I think he can still sling it, you know, and him and klc, that, that's intriguing. Probably get him for cheap. He's a playoff roster. But like that's, it's a, it's a really, it's got to be a really frustrating thing for the Minnesota Vikings because you have a really, really good roster and you just completely fumbled the quarterback situation.
Jennifer
Yeah.
James Palmer
You're in a very, very difficult position right now. I wouldn't rule out Kirk. I mean who knows, maybe he goes back to Atlanta. Obviously Kevin Samanski was looking dad Kirk Cousins to the Browns quarterback room a year ago. So you know, obviously he's the head coach there now. I could also see, speaking of the free agents, can you see Joe Flacco landing in Atlanta if they don't know if Michael Penix isn't going to be ready for the week one. I'm serious. Like I could see Joe operating that if they're not like, hey, Penix is not going to be back for the start of the year. Joe Flacco could be there. In terms of free agency, the free agents are Flacco, Russell Wilson, Jimmy G, Marcus Mariota. You mentioned Malik Willis. What I've been hearing around the league, obviously incentive based, but you might have to pay 20 to 30 million dollars a year for Malik Willis because of the way things are and where he just.
Chase Daniel
2 year 50. That's my guess.
James Palmer
2 year 50 is there like that's a little bit above what you saw from, from Justin Fields when he signed with the Jets. I think a lot of people are using that contract. As I talk to people, Chase is kind of a barometer for some of this stuff. I like it because it was two years at 20 million each. Then you kind of use that for some of these other type of things.
Chase Daniel
That could possibly good for Malik, man.
James Palmer
Go on, man. That could be really good. I heard it could be, you know, obviously incentive based probably with some of that stuff, but still it'd be really good for, for him. Okay, how about the jets? Is that, that could be a landing spot for, for Malik? That could be. They need a quarterback to play in 2026. They have three, I think first round picks for 27 and could be getting their future quarterback there. But what did the jets do?
Chase Daniel
That's a great question. I, I think to me, like if you love Ty Simpson, you're, you're rolling with Ty Simpson. If you're not, you're not drafting a quarterback, you are saving those picks for next year's class in 2027. You're trying to tank and you're trying to get Archbanning. Could you imagine Archbishop in New York? You know what I mean? Like someone like that, like to me makes a lot of sense now. Who, who do they. I mean, they have to have somebody, they have to be. And if you don't win, you're, you know, Aaron Glenn's probably out and so it's just such a tricky situation to where Aaron Glenn was the hot hire. And then all of a sudden like you just. The quarterback play was not there and that's a great question, dude. Jets fans, I have no idea. And you guys have to be probably so pissed off about it. Like you, there's just no, there's no good football fit. To me of all, like, you know, and, and do. And here's the thing though, here's the thing that a lot of people are talking about. All these free agent quarterbacks, you're talking about, do you want to go to the jets if you have other options, knowing that you're probably not going to win right away? You know, you, you, you, you demoted, fired your play caller, you have a new play caller, you have all this stuff that's going on and you're not a good team, you don't have a good offensive team and this is your shot to make some money. Like is it worth going there one year struggling, winning four games and then all of a sudden you're, you're not the next hot quarterback. That's something to pay. That's why it's hard to get these guys.
James Palmer
It's, it is tough and that's why I feel like there should be. And maybe it will build intrigue around Mac Jones. And the reason I say that is because the 49ers are going to come out and they have. And this was all the reports on Super Bowl Sunday, ironically. Strange how so many of them had the same report. We're not interested in trading Mac Jones. We're going to keep Mac Jones. We understand how valuable he is, totally get it. But. But what really matters in this chase, and you know this as well, is value. And the value of Mac Jones is extremely high because of I. The player and secondly the contract. You would have him for like four and a half million dollars in 2026, then you could control the future. I feel like, where does he rank among these names we're talking about in terms of the desirability? Because I feel like it's rather high with everything that is a part of getting Mac Jones, the contract being a big part of it. Comparing that to say, Kyler or Tua.
Chase Daniel
To me, I think he's behind Malik Willis in terms of like, because of the value that you're getting. Like a team's going to pay that much money. And then you look at. And I broke down a bunch of his games. I mean, he was able to.
James Palmer
He's.
Chase Daniel
He was so tough at the end. He was hurt, right. But he was. He won a lot of games. He kept this 49ers team afloat till Brock Purdy was able to get back and played a lot. And I think that's what teams look at. Right. Like, obviously you look at can you play. But also, man, everything around the situation of the 49ers and just how you're able to play in that offensive line. He was getting smacked and you look at the toughness and you look at, okay, he's coming off, you know, I don't know how many games he played. Seven, eight, whatever. And, and just what he can bring. I still, I. I like the way Mac was playing. So, yeah, that's a good shot. I mean, maybe the jets maybe go be Mac Jones in New York, who knows?
James Palmer
I mean, you obviously have to trade for him. That's part of it. But the value of the player in the contract are weighed heavily in these equations. And I think that's why there is still going to be appeal and there's still going to be teams calling. Now John lynch can hang up on them or he should listen, which is what he should do just to see if somebody offers them something they weren't expecting to get. Before we bounce out of this, I Tua, you mentioned Kyler seems like probably the most talented out of this group. Can Tua still play in the NFL in with. With everything that comes with it. Whether it's the injuries or Mike McDaniels had to change some of the things that they did offensively. Chase because of the risk of possible injury or the next hit could be. I hate to say it. It could be it for his career for sure. What what is you think the perception of the league on. On how desirable you would be after two a tongue of Iloa that that's.
Chase Daniel
To me this is the hardest one to look at because of the injury history. Because of he has to have a certain type of offense and that's a timing based offense. Rarely does he get past read one or two. He likes to throw early and often and just like the, the pinpoint accuracy. So I mean are you willing to take a chance on a guy that could get hurt and really has one style of. Of offense? I mean maybe. Right. You know it's just. Is he worth 54 million like for. No. There's just no way in my opinion that a team should pay him 54 million for a year based on what we've seen. Right. No play.
James Palmer
They're just going to wait for him to get cut and let the Dolphins pay that and then I would say.
Chase Daniel
It'S going to become. And if I'm too. I want. I want to get on a team now before free agency. I want to get traded so I have a spot and you know these musical chairs, man, they fill up and all of a sudden now you're regulated to a backup role and once you're in a backup role it's so much harder to get back to a starter role. There's a lot of dynamics going on here.
James Palmer
Yeah, there really are. And I know that they are most likely parting with them. From everything that I've gathered they would prefer a trade partner than to the option.
Chase Daniel
Of course they would.
James Palmer
They don't want to pay $54 million. They'd rather obviously eat some of that 54. And, and that's where I think that fields number is kind of there. It's like, okay, like what if you guys eat 30 something and we pay 20 or something? You know what I mean? I think that's kind of where it's at. Okay, but this is going to be fascinating to watch Chase because there still is Geno Smith as an option somewhere. There could be Anthony Richardson as an option somewhere. I mentioned Derek Carr. It's just a really wild group that you could be looking at. And with the draft playing out the way it is it's. It's going to be really interesting to see where all that's at. Justin Fields needs to play somewhere. I would think it's in a. Probably a backup role where he'll. He will land, but it is. It's just like an interesting group of options.
Chase Daniel
Yeah. And none really. The thing. None really stand out above, you know, and so I think that's why Malik Willis is going to get it. 25 million a year, which still seems.
James Palmer
Like a gamble, but it also seems like maybe the smarter gamble compared to what. How much you know about the others.
Chase Daniel
Maybe more.
James Palmer
There might be an unknown with Malik Willis, but there's so much known about some of the other ones that maybe.
Chase Daniel
And it seems like a bargain. I mean, it's weird to say 25 million is a bargain, but, like, look at, like, look at the contracts. Right. Like, if he does and goes and wins nine games, that's worth 25 million in general. Like, no doubt.
James Palmer
Yep. And it's all about, you know, the options that are there if Aaron Rodgers decides to come back. All right. Then Pittsburgh's probably out in some capacity for the 2026 season. Okay. Then that's a spot that's kind of eliminated if he doesn't. All right. Now Pittsburgh's in play for somebody.
Chase Daniel
Musical chairs, man.
James Palmer
It's really, really. Well, how was that? How do you think that is? It's like a player, like. And you're talking to your agent like, well, how many options do I have here? Well, okay, well, I've been a part of. What is that?
Chase Daniel
Like, it's. It's a little. My agent was always so, so good about it. He always had exact teams that may have interest or we may have interest in him. And then this is how many seats are available, you know, and It's. Say there's eight seats, six seats. Well, there's 12 quarterbacks for a backup. Let's get your deal done as soon as possible in the right fit. I don't care if it's for the most money. You need a spot. And most times it was for the most money because my agent was really good. But, like, that is definitely something. Like, toward the end of my career when I'm at the, like, the bottom of, like, okay, hey, I'm a little bubbly. Minimum, whatever. Hey, let's just get a spot, dude. I don't care. Because if you don't have a spot, then you're not in. And two quarterbacks, you know, so it's, it's, it's harrowing. At times, man, especially. Especially if you're on the lower end for sure.
James Palmer
Oh, God. I got anxiety, like, right now just thinking.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, about.
James Palmer
About.
Chase Daniel
This is probably the most anxious time of year that I ever had as a player. Like, February and March. These two months, I could not stop thinking about where am I going to land? How am I going to fit into the program? Okay, what about my family? Where are we going to live? I mean, I was on Zillow starting in February. Like, all right, let me. Let me. If we're in Detroit, what city? Okay. If we're back in New Orleans. Okay, I think I know, but, like, just constantly looking like, so there's all these things outside of football that a lot of people don't understand that you're just like, so anxious and your. Your wife's trying to hold together, but then your kids are like, okay, well, where are they going to go to school? Who's the new doctor? Who's this and that? There's so many. So many variables.
James Palmer
I know your wife handled the anxiety by probably watching Seinfeld. You did something different. But that's neither here nor there. All right, more scoop city. Coming up next, the NFL facility. Organizational grades by the NFL pa They're gone. Chase has an interesting tie to this. Stay tuned.
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James Palmer
Ollie. All right, welcome back to Scoop City on a Monday. James Palmer, Chase, Daniel with you. As we close things out, we had to mention this, that the NFL Chase has won their grievance against the NFL PA's public release of the team's report cards. I always loved reading the report cards. Just, just my two cents. I loved reading them. You were part of this process of trying to get these started, is that correct?
Chase Daniel
Yeah. So I was a union rep. So 14 years. I was a union voting rep for eight or nine of the 14 years. And then the years I wasn't, I was still at every single NFLPA meeting. I was a part of three different CBAs and an uncapped year. So I have a very, very vast knowledge of the union, how it works, how everything's going. And we were constantly at the union trying to find ways to get the players opinions out about certain things. Not only that, but I think the, the genesis of these report cards was, was really to allow free agents when they're picking their next team. And I'm not talking about the free agents that are getting $50 million a year like that you're going because of the money, but that middle level tier, low level tier, which is a lot of players, most of the players are under $3 million a year. And for us it was like, all right, if I go to Miami verse Minnesota and they have the exact same offer and their, their teams are exactly the same in terms of, okay, I think both can probably make the playoffs. But I'm just using this as an example and this is what we talk about through like, yeah, yeah, like so if you're a player and you're weighing those, okay, well what will maybe move Miami above Minnesota or Minnesota above Miami? And we really wanted to help free agent because like when you're, if I'm in New Orleans and I got four offers to leave New Orleans, I only know what New Orleans is offering. I don't know what the New York jets are offering, like in terms of, okay, well let's rank their coach, let's rank their facilities, let's rank the player health and Safety. Let's. Let's rank how they treat families. And so that's sort of how the genesis of it came about, was to help other players in the union decide if money is equal, where to go. And so that it quickly, it quickly turned into.
James Palmer
Well, hold on.
Chase Daniel
Okay, that's a.
James Palmer
That's.
Chase Daniel
That's probably a part of it. The biggest part is how do you hold billionaires accountable?
James Palmer
Yes.
Chase Daniel
You can't. You can't. Okay, well, this is pretty cool. I think this is the case. So when those first ones were released in 2023. Right. My last year in the NFL was 2022. So it finally came to fruition. And you know, you remember when they were first released, it was like, yeah, oh, my gosh, like, this is crazy. And then all of a sudden, like, the media got a hold of it, which is sort of what the NFLPA wanted. Right? And then you're like, oh, my gosh, like, Woody Johnson as an owner, re ranked their owner, he got an F. Then the media did their job. It's like, well, why the hell did he get an F? And then you, you know, everyone started going. And then, oh, well, Miami, they're ranked number one. They got a. In every single. Oh, my gosh, I'm going like, you know, and then so there started to be more and more deep dive a little bit reporting on, like, oh, well, wait, hold on. This is really interesting. Why did Woody Johnson get an F? Well, you know, we know why he got an F, right? Multiple things. And this is about the lowest an NFL owner can go, in my opinion, to be able to. They don't want the players voices heard. And so you can't hold a NFL owner accountable anymore. This was the one way because honestly, like James, the reason we wanted to bring about change, we wanted to make sure the facility facilities were great. We wanted to make sure the food was great. I've been in some facilities where the food is awful. Like, I'd rather eat McDonald's food that was served. I'm not done. I can't go.
James Palmer
Accountable.
Chase Daniel
Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, it's. It's so ridiculous now that, that they did this. And you know what, James? The more I think about it, and I promise I'm gonna let you get a thought because I want to know. The more I think about it, because of the NFL blocking this, I think that these report cards will be even bigger deal because the NFL PA is going to now leak these to the media, and the media is going to want to know, even more, and the players are going to want to know even more. So you. You might have smothered a little bit of a fire, but I think the flame is still going down.
James Palmer
Dude, I like that. Here's the deal. And this is the part that I have the biggest problem with Chase. Because of the report cards, things in facilities did get better. Like, a lot better. There were certain organizations that really did take it to heart and got a lot better. And so that part about it doesn't make sense to me where it's like, this actually did improve things for players. It did improve things for players, families. It also, when you're weighing these things, and I was waiting for you to say it, but I just. I just know this is a part of it as well. You want to go to a place that goes, will they help me keep playing? Playing as long as possible is your goal. You want a longer career. You know this. When you're weighing these different places goes, hey, guys, go there. And either the practice facility, turf inside. I remember the old one in Houston. All the veterans would tell me that I don't practice indoors in Houston. Never.
Chase Daniel
Yeah.
James Palmer
Like, Owen Daniels is like, I'm never going to put my knees on that turf. You know what I mean? I'm trying to last as long as I can. So all of these things are weighed within the process and things got better. Like, there is an open survey in Denver that they give all the media members about the food in the press box because ownership will change it if the reviews are not good.
Chase Daniel
Yeah.
James Palmer
And so that's. Yes.
Chase Daniel
And I'm with you. And I think feedback should be taken rather than try and smother anything that's ever bad about the NFL owners, because these owners and these 32 billionaires can't take it because they don't want it in the media. They want to. Dude, the whole point of this is not. He got here.
Jennifer
He.
Chase Daniel
You know, all this stuff. It's like, can you collectively come together and build a really great franchise at all aspects? Because no. No one's above reproach in my opinion. Like, if you can take feedback and you can. Can get better. And there's a lot of owners, like, the Chiefs completely changed their food and completely changed how it was because Clark Hunt took that feedback seriously. He's like, oh, man. Because a lot think about, think about this. If you're an owner, what do you care about? The only thing you care about. What's the only thing you care about? Money. Money, money, money, money. And so a lot of owners out there are very, very cheap. And when that happens, okay, cool. But all of a sudden, hey, maybe you know what? A lot of the, the, the checks and balances within a franchise. How would I put this? Very, very cleanly. A lot of the checks and balances of the franchise, the janitors, the food, the field condition. A lot the owners don't, don't care, nor do they even know about it because no player is going to go up to the owner, hey, you know what, Clark Hunt? I think you need to reseed the field. No one's going to say that. And so a lot of times these owners just don't even think like that. And there, I will say there was a decent amount of owners talking to the PA that, that really took it to heart. Be like, you know what? Yeah, we're a multi billion dollar business. Let's up our food, let's do the in, in, in it and what it makes a franchise better. It makes you get more people. But now I just think it's ridiculous that they, that they block and it's just so dumb.
James Palmer
Yeah. So a part of it. And then I'm just, you know, reading through this is like they're. The PA is being essentially accused of like cherry picking certain comments.
Chase Daniel
Yeah.
James Palmer
To create a certain narrative of how really the, the report cards go. But I do think it's something that we read. I think it's something that everybody in buildings read. And I would be remiss if I didn't say, I would assume most of the people in a building reading the report card are going, that's probably accurate. Like, because there are enough people.
Chase Daniel
No doubt.
James Palmer
So I just, Yeah. I, I hope they become a bigger deal. In all honesty, I, I think, I think it's important to.
Chase Daniel
I think it will. I, I think that the, I think that the NFLPA will now find a way to make these an even bigger deal. That's what I think.
James Palmer
Well, I, I would just go the adverse side and say, owners, guess what? Take pride in good grades, strive for better grades and maybe, you know, you can brag to your other owners that you got great grades. Who knows? Chase always is a straight A student. Were you straight A student school?
Chase Daniel
Come on, dude. My dad, my dad would hurt me if I wasn't. He was very, he was like here. He was like, he was like, you are now. This was in college. You are a student athlete. You're a student athlete. What's first in that equation, Chase? What's for students? I'm like, ah, yeah. So it was All. And that was sort of. I mean, it was like homework before anything. Homework before sports, like any of that. So.
James Palmer
Oh, man.
Chase Daniel
It was. I wouldn't say like straight A, but like a B plus would be okay every once in a while.
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Chase Daniel
High standards, man.
James Palmer
My son came home last night and he was just looking at a computer. He goes, let me check my math score. Yes. I gotta see. I was like, what are you excited about?
Chase Daniel
Hey, man. D's get degrees. D's get degrees.
James Palmer
He's like.
Chase Daniel
He's like.
James Palmer
A lot of kids I think did worse than me dad. I was like, I don't care. I'm not the father of these other kids, buddy.
Chase Daniel
I care about you.
James Palmer
I just care about you. And I care about you. Chase, this was awesome, man. I love that we knocked out this, this, this quarterback heavy episode. We're also going to have one next Monday at the start of the combine. Coming out. Chase, I'm going to ask you kind of about your. Your experiences and. And. Yeah, and everything there.
Chase Daniel
Well, I got some stories.
James Palmer
Dive into the combine a little bit. I love it. Hear that? That's called a tease. I got some stories now. All right, take it easy, everybody.
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This quarterback-focused episode dives into why Fernando Mendoza is the consensus No. 1 pick in the 2026 NFL Draft. The hosts deliver analysis on Mendoza’s intangibles, fit with the Las Vegas Raiders and Clint Kubiak, and the broader quarterback landscape in the NFL. They also discuss the mechanics of NFL free agency and player movement, and touch on the NFLPA’s now-banned organizational report cards.
[04:41] James Palmer:
[06:06] Chase Daniel:
“It's the one thing that you can't measure in its heart. ... He is very, very high on the scale of intangibles.”
“His teammates love him. And I think that's half the battle.”
[08:34] James Palmer:
[09:43] Chase Daniel:
“Fernando really didn't play a lot under center and Clint Kubiak is a heavy under center play action [guy].”
[11:55] James Palmer:
[12:56] Chase Daniel:
“He’s sort of like an old school quarterback…you can give half field progressions and cut the field in half.”
[14:21] James Palmer:
[15:11] Chase Daniel:
Notable Quote:
[17:35] James Palmer:
[18:34] Chase Daniel:
“Whoever gets drafted [to the Rams], man, they’re winning.”
[21:42] Chase Daniel:
[23:06] Chase Daniel:
[26:17] James Palmer:
[27:40] Chase Daniel:
“He’s played like a top five quarterback. And then there’s these spurts where it’s just like, turn the ball over, get sacked a lot. … It’s like completely different players.”
[30:10] James Palmer & Chase Daniel:
[32:34] Chase Daniel:
[35:27] Chase Daniel:
[36:52] James Palmer:
[39:39] Chase Daniel:
“Are you willing to take a chance on a guy that could get hurt and really has one style of offense?”
[42:23] James Palmer & Chase Daniel:
[46:00] James Palmer:
[46:30] Chase Daniel:
[48:54] Chase Daniel:
“The biggest part is: how do you hold billionaires accountable? You can’t—but this is pretty cool... it was the one way.”
[51:20] James Palmer:
[52:40] Chase Daniel:
[55:09] James Palmer:
The original, conversational tone is preserved to highlight football culture, insider anecdotes, and the ongoing drama of player movement and team-building in the NFL.