Why the Chiefs & Patrick Mahomes no longer intimidate teams

Summary

Scoop City: Inside The NFL

Episode: Why the Chiefs & Patrick Mahomes no longer intimidate teams

Hosts: James Palmer, Dianna Russini
Date: October 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Scoop City dives into why the Kansas City Chiefs and their star quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, have lost their aura of invincibility in the NFL. James Palmer and Dianna Russini, joined later by newsletter editor Jacob Robinson, break down the current struggles of the Chiefs, analyze the Philadelphia Eagles’ offensive woes, celebrate the rise of the Indianapolis Colts, and identify surprises (both positive and negative) across the league. The show is peppered with insider scoops, candid takes, and plenty of sharp back-and-forth, maintaining the engaging and witty tone typical of The Athletic’s NFL coverage.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Philadelphia Eagles: A Star-Studded Offense Struggling to Click

Timestamps: 02:56–09:00

• Private “meeting” among Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, and A.J. Brown:
  Not a crisis summit, but an informal conversation reflecting the team's awareness of their offensive struggles.
• Offensive Misfires:
  • Offense lags behind expectations; too many three-and-outs, rhythm issues, and delayed play calls.
  • There’s tension in “feeding all the mouths” with so many stars.
  • Saquon Barkley’s role diminished—down to 3.2 yards per carry after an MVP-like season.
• Defense holds steady, but lack of sacks compared to departed free agents (Milton Williams, Josh Sweat) is concerning.
• Quote:
  “You have to be careful about signing a lot of great players, because sometimes it can be a problem. Some people poo-poo that, but I think the Philadelphia Eagles are a great example of that.” – Dianna Russini (07:10)

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2. Kansas City Chiefs: End of the Era of Intimidation?

Timestamps: 09:00–13:10

• Chiefs’ mystique fades:
  Other teams no longer fear the Chiefs as they once did.
• Rashee Rice’s importance:
  Kansas City’s insiders believe no WR on the market is better than Rice:
  “That’s how much they believe in him. … It’s almost as if we’ve underrated how good a player he is.” – Dianna Russini (10:26)
• Rare discipline issues:
  13 penalties for 109 yards, 0-3 in one-score games, red-zone turnovers—unusual for the Chiefs.
• Perspective:
  James Palmer and Dianna both frame these as outliers, not signs of lasting decline, pointing out solid offensive-line play and optimism for a swift turnaround once Rice returns.

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3. Cincinnati Bengals: The Joe Flacco Gamble

Timestamps: 13:10–17:38

• Bengals acquire Joe Flacco from the Browns (not Giants, not Russell Wilson):
  Detailed behind-the-scenes look at why Flacco, not other rumored QBs (even Russ), was the choice.
  • “Cleveland was a bit surprised ... knowing they’re playing in the same division ... but Cincinnati is desperate.” – Dianna Russini (15:06)
  • Bengals prioritized a veteran who could “hold the fort” with several prime-time games ahead.
• Discussion on league’s limited appetite for Russell Wilson, at least from Cincinnati’s perspective.

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4. Cleveland Browns: Quarterback Carousel

Timestamps: 18:59–20:43

• Post-Flacco, Browns are down to rookies Dylan Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders (with Bailey Zappe as PS backup):
• Kevin Stefanski hesitant to name Sanders as backup:
  “There must be some concern that maybe he’s not ready, in case he were to have to step in there and take over.” – Dianna Russini (19:43)
• Team wants to give both rookies starting opportunities as per ownership’s camp proclamations.

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5. Indianapolis Colts: The Most Efficient Offense in Football?

Timestamps: 23:56–29:31

• Surprise 4–1 start under Shane Steichen; Daniel Jones thriving at QB.
• Tyler Warren’s impact as a versatile, non-traditional tight end:
  Lines up anywhere, isn’t a “tell” for play type, functions as both a lead blocker and receiving leader.
• Jonathan Taylor reigns as RB1:
  His home-run threat keeps defenses honest. The roles for all receivers are clearly defined.
• Steichen’s system gets wide praise from around the league.
• Quote:
  “We finally have a quarterback to just play with the guys that we have on this team ... outside quarterback, they’ve always been pretty good. ... It seems that they got this right.” – Dianna Russini (26:20)

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6. League Surprises—Positive and Negative

Timestamps: 29:32–34:27

• Positive:
  Sam Darnold thriving unexpectedly with Seattle despite fewer weapons.
  “If you told me that Sam Darnold was going to be playing better in Seattle after performing at such a high level in Minnesota ... this is surprising to me.” – Dianna Russini (30:19)
• Negative:
  Baltimore Ravens 1–4 start is “a shock,” with defense losing its identity and Lamar Jackson banged up.
  “There are opposing players saying the effort, the want-to ... that’s just not something I’m used to seeing against this defense.” – James Palmer (32:16)
  “If you told me that there are serious conversations being had right now for this organization to perhaps move on from their head coach ... that’s shocking to me.” – Dianna Russini (33:36)

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7. Newsletter Segment: Ranking the 4–1 Teams

Timestamps: 37:30–43:20

• Jacob Robinson gives a flaw for each 4–1 team (Eagles: run blocking, Bills: secondary, Bucs: 4th quarter issues, 49ers: run game, Colts: lost kicker, Lions: depleted corners, Jags: passing struggles).
• Hosts’ rankings:
  • Best:
    Dianna – Lions (“I think they are the best team in the NFC right now.” – 39:42)
    James – Bills (MVP play from Josh Allen, optimism for returning defenders)
  • Worst:
    Dianna – Eagles (right now, due to chaos/offensive drama, though expects improvement)
    James – Jaguars (over-reliant on turnovers, inconsistent Trevor Lawrence decision-making)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Chiefs’ “aura” fading:
  “Is there panic? Not in the Kansas City Chiefs building, perhaps those on the outside who still have yet to realize how good Rashee Rice is.” – Dianna Russini (11:09)

• On the perils of building a ‘super team’:
  “You have to be careful about signing a lot of great players, because sometimes it can be a problem.” – Dianna Russini (07:10)

• On the Colts’ emergence:
  “The Colts are the most efficient offense in football.” – James Palmer (24:48)

• On Daniel Jones finding his place:
  “He just needed the right situation. And I was never believing anybody. Now I believe it.” – Dianna Russini (29:31)

• Comedy bit:
  James forgets the proper term for being pessimistic, cycling through “Nancy Negative” before Dianna corrects him: “It’s Debbie Downer ... Negative Nelly.” (31:53)

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Other Highlights

• Eagles fans and upper-deck cardio:
  Dianna jokes about feeling old climbing to her family’s last-row seats at Lincoln Financial Field – relatable “aging” banter (44:42–45:55).
• Peloton, jump rope, and step challenges:
  Hosts challenge each other’s fitness, resolving on a 7,000-step goal before next episode (46:16–47:00).
• Teasing side content:
  Running jokes about favorite movies (“Jaws”), a newsletter editor’s “pipe collection,” and generational “word of the day” spam (36:44–37:24).

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Segment Timestamps (Key Content Only)

• Eagles offensive woes: 02:56–09:00
• Chiefs’ loss of intimidation: 09:00–13:10
• Bengals/Flacco trade: 13:10–17:38
• Browns’ rookie QBs: 18:59–20:43
• Colts’ surprise dominance: 23:56–29:31
• Glass half-full/empty league surprises: 29:32–34:27
• Newsletter Q&A (4–1 teams): 37:30–43:20

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Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is lively and knowledgeable, occasionally irreverent, and replete with the banter and candor that makes Scoop City an insider’s favorite. There’s skepticism for both overreacting to and dismissing early-season trends. The Chiefs may not “intimidate” like before, but smart money is on Mahomes and Kansas City’s organizational muscle memory righting the ship. Meanwhile, the Colts’ authentic, no-drama rediscovery of identity under Steichen and Jones is the refreshing counterpoint.

For NFL fans, this episode is an expert-led deep-dive on why some perennial contenders (Eagles, Chiefs) look human, while unexpected teams (Colts, Lions) are seizing their moment.

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Transcript

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[Diana Rossini]

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[Jacob Robinson]

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[James Palmer]

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[Diana Rossini]

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[James Palmer]

Oh yeah. Scott Hansen and I talk from Red Zone. Talk about Jaws all the time with each other. And I get a phone call from Scott while he's driving to San Diego last year. He goes, I'm meeting Richard Dreyfus. I need help with questions about Jaws. Go. We will tell you the one thing that the Eagles need to fix with their offense before Thursday night against the Giants. Are the Chiefs. Have they lost their fear factor? We'll get into that. Joe Rogan maybe. And who's the best offense in the afc. It might be the Indianapolis Colts. Welcome in to Scoop City on a Wednesday. James Palmer with you alongside the athletic senior NFL insider Diana Rossini. We've been talking for the last 30 minutes. Diana, I Think about Jaws, about Home Alone. Maybe that'll be our sideshow. But we do have to talk football on this one. How you doing, friend?

[Diana Rossini]

I'm good. I'm good. We got Jurassic park playing a lot in this house these days because it's inappropriate for a 4 and soon to be 3 year old to be watching it, but it's just good dinosaur action. Jurassic park is a classic. If it's on, I'm watching it.

[James Palmer]

Yep, it's tremendous. Great at making dinosaurs, doing DNA coding, terrible at making fences, but you can't be good at everything. Listen, the Eagles feel like they should be good at everything, Diana. They have enough talent on this roster. Defense is playing actually very, very well. But on the offense, we have sputtered, we've had issues. So we had a meeting of the minds. Jalen hurts, Saquon Barkley, A.J. brown, little meeting. Can you tell us anything? I know they're being very private about this meeting, but just the fact that there was one obviously tells us a couple things.

[Diana Rossini]

I think everyone has different definitions of the word meeting. I think that's probably at the center of this because there's like a little bit of. I'm. I'm understanding it to be less of a formal, we need to sit down and talk about our problems and more of a guy sitting around just having a conversation about where this Philadelphia team is. Because we talk about the problems that they have, we see the problems that they have, they know the problems, and I bet you they know 10 times more than we could ever even on our best day of reporting. Because there's obviously a really clear issue there, which is they're trying to figure out who they are and what they want to be. And you look back at last year after their buy, that's when things started to improve. And this could be coming at the right time. Like, it may be okay, as much as it feels like panic and everyone is freaking out that one of the best teams on paper is having all these problems and barely winning some of these games when they should be blowing a lot of these teams out. They know this has got to get fixed now because one, their schedule. But I don't know how much a team can manage two years in a row dealing with this kind of thing. So I think the Giants are a good get right game for them. Obviously, this is always going to be personal for Saquon, right? Like, I don't care how many years have gone by, I don't care that he's won a Super Bowl. Take one.

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[Diana Rossini]

Sit 100 times. He imagined himself always being a giant. Like, it took him a while to even get used to Philly. Welcome to Philly Saguan. Because it's different. It's a different set of problems. They're problems that everybody wants, you know, despite the fact. I mean, you point out that their defense has been playing well, but look, this is me being picky, by the way. Picky. But you look at their two defenders that they lost in free agency, right? In Milton Williams, who's now with New England, you've got Josh Sweat combine. Those two have seven and a half sacks. The entire Philadelphia defense right now has seven sacks total. Right. And I'm not saying that they need those guys. I'm just adding to some of the things that they need to perhaps take a look at as. As they're as they're going to try to make improvements. But more specifically on offense, certainly, I.

[James Palmer]

Mean, you look at how, and we mentioned that it is a pretty decent defense. They've been outgained in terms of total yards by 383 yards this season, the sixth worst in the league. And they're 4 and 1. I mean, they're getting outgained pretty much every single game. Obvious lot of what's happening. Dyno on the offensive side of the ball is another new play caller. There's talk about the plays coming in late. They've always come in late under Nick Sirianni. Let's make sure that that's. That's noted. But they're operating under the five seconds of this play clock each and every play. And if players are bringing it up, what does that often mean? If players are bringing it up, it means there is some sort of issue with way the operation is working. My understanding is they are working tirelessly on this. What does Kevin Pitula like? What does Jalen like? How does Jalen like the information delivered to them? How does Kevin like to deliver that information? How do they go about the entire operation of all of this? Because there are people that I've talked to in that building diet that are still wondering what's wrong with the offense. They think it's going to get fixed because there's so much money and so much talent on that side of the ball. But they are scratching their head going, we're playing decent defense. That's not where the money is. We have to figure this out. We have so many players. I think the other part is, and I'm curious if you've heard this like the three and outs are through the roof. I mean, too many three and outs and if you don't have enough plays and you have all these mouths to feed. Yeah, they leave the league.

[Diana Rossini]

I know.

[James Palmer]

And so if you have all stuffed and you don't have enough plays.

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[Diana Rossini]

I feel like this team is an example of those. You know, in the off season when, you know, free agency's happening and fans are mad about, you gotta sign this guy, you gotta sign that guy. And sometimes you'll hear reporters, you even hear people that are part of teams. Like, you have to be careful about signing a lot of great players because sometimes it can be a problem. And some people poo poo that. But I think the Philadelphia Eagles are a great example of that. They've got great stars everywhere. Saquon Barkley was having an MVP like season last year, right? The best of his career. Now he's averaging 3.2 carries, right? 3.2 yard carries a year. Wait, 3.2 yards per carry. There you go.

[James Palmer]

Got it. Nailed it.

[Diana Rossini]

That there's not the same sake one, you know. And I wonder what's going on from the O line all the way back to Saquon. Like, what is off? Why aren't they in sync? Why do they seem so out of rhythm? And here's the thing, I do think they will figure it out. I just am still trying to figure out what the problem is. How are they going to fix this? I don't have an answer. I think they're searching for it and I think that's fair as they're looking at this team going, all right, everyone wants the ball. It was so obvious we talked about on the show in the last episode. It was very evident they changed the game plan to feed those guys. Denver knew it was coming. I mean, they were reading everything all last week. They were like, okay, they're going to have to pacify these receivers and they're going to be throwing. And we saw it and in some instances it made sense to throw. But to, to turn their back a bit on, on a ground game that's been carrying them and getting them wins just may not be the best game plan, especially against the New York Giants.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, I've talked to some defensive coaches that have, that have studied them and it's like there's like the offensive line, which they hang their hat on, just hasn't played up to the potential in the, the salaries and the talent that's there. And then with that, Saquon starts searching a little bit. He starts looking for holes. He starts kind of second guessing where he's going. And it's just kind of compounding itself in the way that that run game's going in this offense. Based off of the run, let's see what they can do against this Giants team. I'm interested because you mentioned that Broncos defense, they simulated pressure a ton, didn't bring extra pressure, still got pressure dropped into zone. They love to play, man. Giants love to play, man. Maybe they play zone the same way Denver did in the second half. To go against this offense, it's going to be interesting. But again, I don't think anybody's panicking in Philadelphia, but I do think there's people that we mentioned that we've talked to are still kind of scratching their heads. How about the opponent from that super bowl that we were both at, I believe in New Orleans? Saw you down there during the week, hung out a little bit. It was nice. Well, it wasn't nice for the Chiefs when Sunday rolled around and it wasn't nice on Monday on Trevor Lawrence's birthday. He falls down twice, scores the game winning touchdown and the Chiefs are two and three. Diana, is there panic? Do people still fear the Kansas City Chiefs the way that they have over the last several seasons?

[Diana Rossini]

No, I, I don't believe so. I don't even think people around the league are worried. I do think people are commenting that they do don't look the same. But I've heard that every year, like every year there's some coach, some players like, what's up with Kansas City? They, they don't, they seem off. I think.

[James Palmer]

I feel like it's wishful thinking around the league.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, right. They're like, oh, this is it. This is when they're gonna stink. I had a conversation with someone in Kansas City just about the importance of Xavier Worthy being back the lineup and obviously the importance of Rashi Rice when he returns. Right. So they've got, this is the last game that they've got without him and then he returns back to the lineup. And from what I understand, just looking at the available wide receivers, the Kansas City Chiefs don't feel like there is a receiver out there that they could trade for that is better than Rashi Rice. That's how much they believe in him. Like, it's almost as if we've underrated how good of a player he is. They evaluate him very high. So I think that he will be a surge to this offense. Which is why when the question you ask is, is there panic? Not in the Kansas City Chiefs building, perhaps those on the outside who still have yet to realize how good Rasheed rice is.

[James Palmer]

Diana, how do you like your barbecue when you're in Kansas City?

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I don't.

[James Palmer]

You don't eat barbecue? Interesting. Okay, I'll give a shout out to Q39. It needs to be rare, right? You're not going medium. You're not going well done. I'm going rare. I'm going medium rare. Rare on most of my meat when I'm in Kansas City. Live there all the time. So I want to talk about what's rare for the Kansas City Chiefs. 13 penalties, 109 yards of penalties. That just doesn't happen with the Kansas City Chiefs. Undisciplined play on defense where you look almost unprepared for certain things. Doesn't happen with Steve Spangle. Just doesn't. Oh, and three in one score games this season. That just doesn't happen in Kansas City. Bad complimentary football with Harrison Bucker kicking the ball out of bounds after they take the lead. Bad complimentary football just doesn't happen in Kansas City. Patrick Mahomes, red zone turnovers don't happen in Kansas City. I think these are rare occurrences. I don't think all of those things happen every game for the Chiefs moving forward. I have a lot of confidence in what's happening. And when you talk to people there and you did. And I did, the offensive line is a big reason why this offense is going to be just fine. I know some people are concerned about a defense. I don't panic with Steve Spagnolo and the way things improve as the course of the year goes on each and every year in Kansas City. Don't panic there. But this offensive line that had some question marks, just had 7.6 yards of play against a team that was the fifth best defense coming into this game. They were moving guys around and. And from my understanding, it's this. If the offensive line plays that way, that allows them to have Patrick go through his first, second, third and oftentimes fourth progressions, which he's going to find somebody. He's the best on the planet. The other part is it's having them run the football a little bit better, which allowed them in this game, I'm told, to run play action better, the bootlegs better, and they're going to continue to be able to move the football almost at will against anybody. Once as you mentioned, Rashi Rice comes back. So with the two games that Worthy came back, who was their game plan until Rashid comes back? They've scored 37 and 28 points. So like, once everyone returns, I don't think anybody has a problem. And I don't know if you'll be able to slow them down if the line keeps playing the way that they're playing. It's, it's, it's, it's early wishful thinking around the league and specifically around the afc. And wishful thinking is what the Cincinnati Bengals are doing. Diana. They're going, Come on, Joe Flacco, come on down. I71 from Cleveland. Maybe he drove. I'm not entirely sure. Short PJ ride though. Joe Flacco is going to start against the packers. Has a chance to beat them twice. With two different teams in the same year, that's a rare occurrence. Can he hold the fort down? What's the plan? Why they make the trade?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, that's the hope is that Joe Burrow, according to the Cincinnati team, was the best option for them. They had lots of conversation about what direction they wanted to go and I heard some wild names when this was really together. Oh yeah, there were so many rumors and just small conversation, light conversations, some light flirting with some quarterbacks. But I think for this Bengals team, in the end the most serious and really the only conversation from what I learned was with the Cleveland Browns for Joe Flacco. They never called the New York Giants because that was my first thought. I was like, well, here comes Russell Wilson, perhaps, maybe even Jameis Winston. And from what I learned was they, they never even reached out to the Giants because they, they were, they were pretty sure that they wanted to be Joe Flacco. This is the move they, they made. And even Cleveland was a bit surprised when Cincinnati called them. Just obviously knowing they're playing in the.

[James Palmer]

Same division and have the right number.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, like home. But just goes to show you, like some because so many people say that like, oh, they'll never make that trade. And, and, and somet that too. There's a few teams I, I know and I'm sure you do too. They will not trade with, with a division foe, but some teams are open to it, especially the Cincinnati Bengals team, who is desperate. They've got three or four prime time games coming up. They've got a, kind of a tough schedule, obviously a very highly paid offense and they need to do something. They cannot get embarrassed. So Joe Flacco makes all sense. You know, soon as we found out about this, it was like, oh yeah, that makes so much, so much sense in the world that Joe Flacco would be the answer. I just don't know whether or not they're going to be that much better. I just. We're acting as if we forgot what Joe Flacco was just doing with Kevin Stefanski, who he's comfortable with, who's. He understands the offense. It's like, why are we so excited, like, he's gonna come in here and not be Joe Flacco? Do we think he's gonna be Joe Burrow?

[James Palmer]

Well, it's the same first name, but I, I think as we've seen him do it before, like, we've seen him come in and save the day and we're all just kind of hoping because we like Joe to like, oh, wouldn't it be awesome if he could come in and save the day? Because you're right, everybod, like, he's never had skilled players like this before. And I'm like, well, d, if you understand why they moved on from him. I was told it was much more about the way Joe was playing and much less about, we have to see Dylan Gabriel right now. So that allows you to think the Browns were done with Joe Flacco, essentially and has seen what. Seen enough. Now it's time to see both of these rookies. His play was something to them. So they also go, okay, we're comfortable making this trade and sending him to you. So that needs to be thought of as well. And I want to mention this. You mentioned Russ. Is this a telltale sign of. Does anybody want Russ before November 4th? Do you think this shows us because it's not financial, he's not owed a lot of money, he's easily to be moved? Do you think this is a sign that maybe there's not a lot of interest?

[Diana Rossini]

I don't. I think it was for the Bengals. I don't think the Bengals had interest in Russell Wilson. I don't think this is a league wide thought. I think the Giants are still anticipating calls for us. Like, I think they think that they will get them between now and the trade deadline in November. But I know from, from the conversations I had, people with power in Cincinnati were not in the Russell Wilson. They were not in that camp of interest at all.

[James Palmer]

Okay. That's one team's opinion. You're right, one team's opinion on Russell Wilson. And I do think Joe really has seen every bit of football you could ever throw at him. So you need this player to right away. He's going to play Sunday. He's seen everything. He can pick it up quickly, he can throw it ball well. And I'm told he needs to throw the Ball where it's supposed to go. That's something that wasn't happening.

[Diana Rossini]

Did you hear any quarterbacks? Did you hear any, like, wild, like, so, like, the best are like, people on Twitter. Obviously they don't count as sources, but, like, are like, Philip Rivers. I'm like, what? Like, that's a great one. Like, I love people's ideas of like, all right, here's. You know, this one makes sense. It's like, what are you, nuts? Like, I mean, I wish.

[James Palmer]

I mean, everybody was curious about Kirk Cousins, and I think maybe we should say that it is going to be difficult, I think, to trade for Kirk Cousins. I think the financial aspect of it plays a part. Remember, he's guaranteed $10 million in 2026. So that complicates the matter. If you're going to rent somebody, like, say the Bengals are going to rent a quarterback until Joe Burrow comes back. And also, I don't think the Falcons are just going to give him away by any stretch. Do you get that same feeling?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, no, no. Atlanta's not giving away. And Atlanta knew Cincinnati wasn't going to call either because of what you just laid out. Like, there was like, a.01 chance that that call would even be made, and they didn't call.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, exactly. They're not just going to eat all that salary either. They're looking for the team to take on a good chunk of that. Dylan, let's go to the Browns real quick before we go to break and what this means for their quarterback situation. It used to be, like, completely full. It was like all these kids walking into Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, and all of a sudden they're getting bumped off. Kenny Pickett's Augustus Gloop, he's down. All of a sudden, you're turning violet. Violet. Joe Flacco's gone. Now it's just Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders, essentially. Billy Zappi's there, but now we have the two rookies, which, if we go back and listen to what Jimmy Hasler had to say at the start of training camp, was, I want to see both of these rookies. My understanding is that they would like to see both of these rookies, but I don't think Dylan Gabriel underperformed against a difficult Vikings defense by any stretch in his first start.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I'm not sold yet that Shador is going to be the backup quarterback yet. Kevin Stefanski is going to wait a little bit before he makes that final call. The fact that it's not that clean cut when it's just a backup quarterback. Like it. Why not name him, right? Like what could the reasons be? Bailey Zappi, like you said, is on the practice squad. So we'll see what they wind up. Up doing here. But just the fact that there's a little hesitation tells me that there must be. There must be some concern that, that maybe he's not ready in case he were to have to step in there and take over if, if Dylan Gabriel were to get hurt. But yeah, in terms of Dylan Gabriel's play, that they definitely are happy with. With. Look, they're not thrilled they didn't win, but, man, this whole thing can change for the Browns if they can just pull off one of these close games where it just. They can't catch a break.

[James Palmer]

So I was doing Shador Sanders there, miming to you. Listen, I have heard some rumblings that they wanted to make sure you mentioned the word clean. They wanted to make sure if he's going to go into a game, they would prefer it to be with an entire week of practice that was designed specifically for him and have him go into that game very prepared. Not usually the case if you're the backup and you get thrust into a certain position within a game. We'll see what Kevin Spansie does. But obviously everybody has their eyes on Shador Sanders and what he's. What he's going to do if he gets a chance to play the get on the field. I think at some point he might. Coming up on Scoop City on a Wednesday, we're going to talk about, oh, the Indianapolis Colts. What are we talking about them? Shane's Titan would potentially be the coach of the year. We'll tell you why next on Scoop City. Have you heard of Gold's Belly? It's this amazing site that I order from all the time where you can get the most iconic famous foods from restaurants all across the US and they will ship it anywhere across the country. See, covering the NFL for years and years and years, I go to all these different cities. When I'm covering the super bowl in Miami, I go to Joe's. When I'm at a pro day in Austin, Texas, I get Franklin's Barbecue because these places are so iconic. But the problem when I go back home to Denver, I am now miles and miles away from all of my favorite restaurants. Well, with Gold Belly, I had the opportunity to then get them shipped to my house. This has happened multiple times and it's outstanding. The biggest part of this for me is I grew up in Philadelphia. It is home for me. And if you want a taste of home, I have an opportunity to get a Pat's cheese stick straight from South Philly right there. Whiz wit. Get it sent to my house and I get it exactly as it was when I was growing up. It brings back memories. It makes me feel closer to my family. It makes me feel closer to home. So if you're looking for the perfect gift or want to impress your friends and family with an epic meal the next time you host, go to goldbelly.com and get 20% off your first order with promo code SCOOP. That's goldbelly.com code SCOOP for 20% off your first order.

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[James Palmer]

Welcome back to Scoop City on a Wednesday. James Palmer, Diane Rossini with you and Diana. It's exactly like you predicted before the season started. Colts Red Hot 4 and 1. Shane Steichen dealing Daniel Jones thriving. This is what you predicted, right?

[Diana Rossini]

I was all over it. I kept telling you that. I heard in camp how good Daniel Jones looked. There was no controversy. But the reality is. I know we're joking, but we. We kept saying that. They kept.

[James Palmer]

You did say that.

[Diana Rossini]

Mentioning that Daniel Jones was legit, the best quarterback. Think about how much time he's like, when do you ever hear about Anthony Richardson now? Like, ever? You don't, right? It's just until he came in.

[James Palmer]

In the blowout. Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

The story's dead between Tyler Warren and Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor and pretty much this entire team. That has been really impressive. They certainly are the talk of the league right now.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, they really are. Players will tell you like, I feel like we're executing at a level I've never been a part of before. We're kind of operating in a manner in which I've never been a part of before. And that's because this is the most efficient offense in football. It's not that they're balanced. I think that term is overused. It's because they take exactly what the defense gives them and they have answers for everything. My understanding is this. Everybody understands the role. Diana. It's Michael Pittman knows he has this role. Josh Downs knows he's in the slot with the short stuff. Alex Pierce knows he's the deep threat. They all know in the receiving room what their role is and what ties this together is Jonathan Taylor as the number one running back in football right now and his ability to hit the home run. And my understanding is when he can go deep and he can go the distance, there's a little shuffle of the feet towards the middle of the field, right? Little middle shuffle of the feet towards the line of scrimmage by defenders because we don't want this guy to get to the second level and be gone because Jonathan Taylor can do it. But we both did a lot of draft work. The other part is Tyler Warren and you mentioned him. They line him up anywhere he is not a tell like a lot of other linebackers are. Where these new pass catching tight ends come out of college and we know we're throwing, they run behind him. They have specific schemes. I'm told to run behind him as a lead blocker and he can also lead this team in receiving. What was the buzz? Do you remember? Can you go down memory lane here and about Tyler Warren and what type of player whoever got him was, was going to get. And I think the Colts are using him perfectly.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, they, they are doing a phenomenal job. And it actually made me go back to thinking about when we were working on draft stuff about what Shane Steichen likes to do with his tight ends. I remember having a conversation with why that would make a lot of sense for the Colts to go after him before we knew that they were going to draft him, you know, and that's really been one of the buzzier topics whenever I'm asking teams like, hey, what are you seeing from. From the Colts? What do you like about them? Defensive coordinators? What, what scares you about them? You know, I think this is finally the time where Shane Steichen is getting the respect that he, he's had. But maybe it hasn't been so loud, right. Because going back to Philly, he. He had enormous amount of respect for. For what he was able to do and. And how he. He put that offense together and called plays, and that was why he was hired. And I had a conversation with someone in Indy yesterday afternoon, and it's. It's the simplest thought, but it's like this person was like, we finally have a quarterback to just play with the guys that we have on this team. Right. Like, I know that is the most basic thing, but it's so true. When you just look at this Colts team, it's not like they just started to be good outside of the quarterback, they've actually always been pretty good. They just haven't had anyone great under center, and they've been through it, and that's been their problem. And it's why Chris Ballard has taken so much heat. But it seems that they got this right. And Daniel Jones, for himself, personally, I think even made the right call. I think we were saying, not criticizing, but we were wondering why he wouldn't want to stay with o' Connell and stay in Minnesota, team that could win the Super Bowl. If you told me that Daniel Jones with Indy, with the. With the Colts, was going to have a better season than the Minnesota Vikings were up to this point, that would have really surprised me.

[James Palmer]

Yeah. Seriously. It's one of the best stories to watch in football right now, though. And is he in line? I know it's early, but is this something you think Chris Ballard is looking at going, I think we got to lock him up. Like, do we give him a deal? Like, I know it's early in the season, but that has to start creeping into your mind. If you're Chris Bow.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, for sure. You don't want to let this guy go. Right. I think he's doing it. I'm sure Tampa Bay is going to be wanting to think about that with Baker Mayfield.

[James Palmer]

Yes.

[Diana Rossini]

By the way, notice the common trait in both those quarterbacks, too, that we're talking about with the resurgence. Yes. But they've got these rookie weapons. Right. On both these offenses. I don't know how that's. Usually. I would say they would take a. Take some time, but these guys are doing such a great job. Sometimes that rawness, like, there's. I just feel like there's power and naivete. Right. Like when you just don't know and you just have to go out and ball and play and I don't know if I've ever said the culture fun to watch. They're really fun to watch now. And even some of the clips that we just showed here, if you're watching it, it's like, I can't believe that's Daniel Jones. Like, it takes a sec. But that's. He's another player where people around the league will tell me, like, he's good. He just needed the right situation. And I was never believing anybody. Now I believe it.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, you're exactly. You're exactly right. Remember when Zaire Franklin was on the show talking to us and he was like, there's always four or five times during a practice where we're like, we see him throw a ball and we're like, this was a top pick here. This was a really talented, top of the draft type of quarterback. We almost kind of forgot it. And now the league's seeing it. Maybe some of these guys you're mentioning, they're playing it loose like this because they've already failed and now they're coming back going, I'm just going to play loose. I'm going to go play and I'm going to go do it. And we've seen it. Baker and Sam Darnold's playing crazy, crazy good. And same as. Same as, same as Daniel Jones. So let's, let's, let's throw this out here. That's a big surprise with the Indianapolis Colts in a lot of people's minds. Obviously, Shane Said goes from hot seat to front runner for coach of the year. You have another surprise in the league five games in that's making you go, I didn't see this coming, and I kind of like it. Or I didn't see us coming in. Oh, boy.

[Diana Rossini]

You mentioned it. And it's Sam Darnold specifically, but it's Seattle who's in a dogfight in their division right now. But if you told me that Sam Darnold was going to be playing better in Seattle after being with the Minnesota Vikings, after performing at such a high level with Kevin o' Connell and then go do it with Clint Kubiak and perform at this level. Like, this is surprising to me. I kind of thought that we would forget about Sam Darnold. I thought he'd go there and just be okay. I thought that the best version we'd see of him was going to be in Minnesota for, for all the reasons that we've talked about on the show a million times. He is just shouldering a lot of the load there, too, and he doesn't have the same weapons that he had in Minnesota. Right. Take a look. Tight end Wide receiver. They have an average run game with the Seahawks compared to the Vikings. So that, to me, is really surprising that Darnold has been able to step up and do this. And look, I know he lost against the Bucks, but he. He is playing some of the best quarterbacking right now.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, he's been outstanding. And I guess there is some carryover, right, between what Kevin o' Connell does and what Clint Kubiak does, and it's kind of that Shanahan tree in some capacity, but he is. He's. He's playing his tail off. I'll be. I'll be Mr. Negative. I'll be Nancy Negative. Is that a term? I don't think it is.

[Diana Rossini]

It's not. It's Debbie Downer, and it's Debbie Downer.

[James Palmer]

That's right.

[Diana Rossini]

Negative Nelly.

[James Palmer]

Negative Nelly. Yeah. Sorry, Nancy, we have a problem on.

[Diana Rossini]

The show if I'm the one getting the things right.

[James Palmer]

That's a good point. The Ravens shock me. I mean, at 1 and 4, this is such a surprise. Like, this team. I think when we talked before the season on the show, Dan, we both kind of agreed. They're your super bowl pick, right?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. Dude, let's not do this. Last year in Scoop State, I picked Houston. I'm like, horrible.

[James Palmer]

No, it's all right. I picked. I think I picked the Ravens, too. This is with the Eagles, in almost everybody's mind, the best roster in football, and now they are off to tying their worst start in franchise history. What bothers me and is the most surprising aspect is not the. That their record is that they've actually played some really good teams as well, but in the manner in which those losses have happened and that the defense has lost their identity, that the defense is not what we're used to with Ravens defenses, that there are opposing players that are saying the effort, the want to. That's just not something I'm used to seeing going against this defense. And I know there's a litany of injuries, but at the same time, it's been very, very interesting to watch that side of the ball, which is now dramatically impacted the other side. We know Lamar's hurt and banged up, and you were all over that. I think this might be the most important buy in John Harbaugh's career coming up in two weeks, what he has to try to accomplish after this Rams game, they have a schedule where I think of their next seven games, I want to say they have two teams with winning records. We'll see if they can write the ship, but that's a huge surprise for me. Just huge.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. If you told me that we'd be discussing them heading into this Rams game and eventually the bye week with Lamar Jackson injured, dealing with his hamstring, we'll see if he plays. It doesn't seem like that's going to be the case, but we'll see how the rest of the week goes. It would make sense for them to rest him with the bye week coming up. But if you told me that there are serious conversations being had right now for this organization to perhaps move on from their head coach like that, that's shocking to me and we'll see if that picks up. This is going to be one of the biggest stories, I think, of the season is this Ravens team and another year where Lamar is not playing in the playoffs, at least in the rounds closer to the Super Bowl. It's just shocking. If you told me Lamar Jackson wasn't going to be in the playoffs if they continue this bad rut.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

[Diana Rossini]

You can't have a good run.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, you can't have a good run. There's no such thing as good. You know what? I'm doing okay. I've been in a pretty good rut lately. Pretty good rut. I see. It works.

[Diana Rossini]

It works. It's all the delivery.

[James Palmer]

It's all in delivery and tone. Your dog would never understand as long as you say it in a good tone. Coming up, we're going to talk to Jacob Robinson of the Scoop City Newsletter. He's got a couple of questions for Diana and I. We always love seeing him and his backdrop. Can't wait to see what he has for us. Coming up next.

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Get [e-mail] welcome back to Scoop City on a Wednesday. James Palmer, Diana Cini with you and on Wednesday, Santa. You know we always love to chat about a newsletter and we're gonna have Jacob Robinson asking us some questions as he oftentimes does on this from this Scoop City newsletter. You know, he runs that bad boy and there are over over a million sends out there. Everybody's getting this thing. It's all the so good. Good.

[Diana Rossini]

I read it every morning.

[James Palmer]

It really gets you caught up. Huge.

[Diana Rossini]

It gets you caught up. But it also, Jacob is so good at finding really good trends that are interesting in the league. Things that are happening on offense, defense, just stuff that, like, I don't pay attention to or I miss. I'm like, oh, yeah, that is interesting. So that's why I love it. And it's free to subscribe. Put your email in. And they're not annoying about it. I subscribe to some newsletter. I'm like, like, I do this one. It's like word of the day or something. They send me six word of the days. I'm like, no, no, this is words of the day. I just want one word of the day. It's annoying. I'm gonna write. I'm gonna, I'm gonna write back. Here's the word. Stop. Stop. That's my word of the day. Stop.

[James Palmer]

I don't shop at Joseph A. Bank anymore. Stop sending it to me. How about Jacob? What does he have for us right now? Mac, roll the that.

[Jacob Robinson]

Diane and James, how you guys doing? It's great to be back in Scoop City. Coming to you live from the newsletter. And in the newsletter earlier this week, I looked at the four in one teams, particularly one weakness for each of them. Now I want you to rank who the best four in one team is so far this season and who the worst four in one team is. But before you do that, I'm going to give you one flaw of each team. First is the Eagles. Their run blocking has been atrocious. Saquon Barkley's gone from being the league leader in yards before contact last season to one of the worst marks in the league. League getting less than 1 yard per carry before contact. Then there's the Bills, which have one of the worst secondaries in the league and need Maxwell Hairston, their first round cornerback, to return to add some speed to that secondary. The Buccaneers struggle in the fourth quarter, getting outscored by their opponents in every game they've won so far this year. In the final period, 49ers can't seem to run the ball. Christian McCaffrey averages just 3.1 yards per carry. The Colts just lost their kicker, Spencer Shrouder, who's been one of the best in the league, only missing one of 27 attempts so far this year. Lions lost their two starting cornerbacks as well as their top backup and might be starting their fifth string corner up next against Kansas City. Then there's the Jaguars, who are 4 1. They have got one of the worst passing games in the league despite this generational quarterback, Trevor Lawrence, who hasn't quite lived up to the billing. Which of those teams do you think is the best four in one team and the worst four in one team? I'd love to hear. Thanks, guys.

[James Palmer]

Diana. I always go through Jacob's background because I think it's outstanding. Did you see that he has a pipe collection?

[Diana Rossini]

I did not notice that. You have good eyes.

[James Palmer]

He has a collection of pipes over there. Interesting. He looks like a pipe guy. I can see him sitting outside with a pipe.

[Diana Rossini]

I did not. I was unaware that that. So those that are listening to the show, go watch us on YouTube and you can see the pipe collection and critique it.

[James Palmer]

Find the pipe collection. It's like. It's like erotic photo hunt at the bar.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Palmer]

All right. Best four in one team in Diana Rossini's mind is who?

[Diana Rossini]

The Lions. I think they are the best team in the NFC right now. They are forced. I don't think we're giving Jared Goff enough love. I think the fact that Johnny Morton has been able to step in here and take in control of this offense and they have not skipped a beat. It was like. And freaked out after that packers game and then they just chilled and they seemed to chill, too, that week after the loss from talking to some people there. And they had. They are a steady, steady ship who is certainly not getting enough attention, but they, to me, are the best four in one team headed into week six.

[James Palmer]

Okay, I kind of agree, but I'll have to, you know, pick somebody else. I'm going to go with the Bills and you're going to see my theme here on quarterback play. They still have an MVP Playing quarterback in Josh Allen. I have some concerns. Concerned about Keon Coleman on the outside and passing outside the numbers has been an issue the last two years. I still believe that that game against a fired up New England team by Stefan Diggs and an unbelievable performance by Drake May, by the way, who was ballin'. I still have a lot of faith in a Bill's team that still has a couple of injuries on the defensive side of the ball that, that will get healthy. I think that's a, that's a, that's a part of this. All right. The worst four in one team is. Is who? To Diane Rossini.

[Diana Rossini]

You bring up the Patriots, by the way. They should be four in one. Like, we should be talking. They should have beat the Raiders. They, they. They should have beat the Steeler. You could make an argument they could be undefeated. Like, I don't want to go through every game, but like, I'm. It just. It crossed my mind when you brought Drake May up, I'm like, oh, wait, they could have. Anyways. Yeah, Drake played out of his mind that they've got the Saint. See how they do. But the, the. When I say the worst four in one team, I'm talking about right now, the state of what they are now is what. And which is why I say the Philadelphia Eagles do. I think the Philadelphia Eagles in the end, though, will be better than, let's say the Jags or the Colts, who are both 4:1. Yes, the Philadelphia Eagles will be better than those teams. I just think for right now, they've got to straighten this chaos out, this soap opera, the drama. Still think they love it, but I think it's distracting and it's, it's exhausting actually, to, to cover this team because there's just always something. And we should be talking about the talent that they have because they are, I believe, the most talented team in football. They just need to figure it out. So they, they're my, they're my four in one team that I have concern over.

[James Palmer]

Okay. They fill column inches. People don't say that term anymore, do they? With everything that's going on inside that building. I'm going to go with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I'm a fan, and I think Liam Cohen has, has changed the culture very, very quickly. They have learned how to win close games. They took two powerhouses down in the Niners and the Chiefs in the last two weeks, and they've done it in the closing, you know, closing minutes of those games. What bothers me is you can't rely on consistently getting this many turnovers and this many impactful turnovers for the duration of an entire season. Maybe it's possible, but it just seems like a hard thing to lean. Lean into. And then the other part is. And Jacob called him a generational quarterback. The decision making by Trevor Lawrence irks me. I know this is a work in progress with him and Liam Cohen. That's why Liam has the job. But I just feel like some of the decision making in game still makes you scratch your head and go, we need to be a little bit better at the most important position in sports. I love what they're doing, but there may be the team out of the group I have the least amount of faith in if that makes.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I'm also not used to it.

[James Palmer]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

I don't think any of us are. It's just like, like this is so bizarre. It can't be real, but maybe it is, you know, and, and look, Liam Cohen, you can. He. He. He could be in the running for coach of the year right now as well.

[James Palmer]

Certainly, certainly.

[Diana Rossini]

You know, I think between him and Kyle Shanahan, like they, they deserve a lot of credit. We haven't talked about Niners in a while. We'll be talking about them coming up here. They got this big game against T Sunday. I can't wait to talk about that next week with you. By the way, you mentioned Jacob calling Trevor Lawrence a generational talent. I think Jacob's a Jags fan. I need to do a little.

[James Palmer]

I. I'll check the background to see if there's any talent.

[Diana Rossini]

I remember thinking it was a team that you'd be surprised that he would like. So we need to find out if that's his team. We're on it.

[James Palmer]

I thought you were going to say thinking of generational quarterback. Our own Chase Daniel had a birthday and I just want to give him a shout out for his birthday because we didn't do it on his birthday and I know he'd love this right now. So we're wishing Chase a happy birthday. He's another year older and I just want to round it out by going, is there anything lately Diana? And this is exactly Mac putting me in a bad spot as the producer. Have you felt old to a woman? Have you felt old lately?

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[Diana Rossini]

When I attended the Eagles game, I stopped by my family's seats which is the last row at the lake. They are.

[James Palmer]

They're up there, baby.

[Diana Rossini]

No. Yeah, they're. They're all 22 watchers. I say to my father in law, all the time we are in the sky than the eagles on the field, but awesome. I actually love their seats. I could not believe how many times I had to stop when I was walking up to the seats because my cardio just wasn't at the level that it needs to be at. When I used to be able to do it five years ago, I was fine. So I'm glad you asked me because it was very recent that I felt old and I thought it as I was walking up a bit little. Like all this makeup, all this hairspray in the world can't cover the fact that I'm an old lady now.

[James Palmer]

No, don't you say that. I'll just close out real quick and just say, I can't remember the last time I jumped. Like, just like, jumped?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. Why would you. Right.

[James Palmer]

I guess I just thought of that. When was the last time you jumped?

[Diana Rossini]

I just jumped. I don't jump rope.

[James Palmer]

I used to jump rope. I don't are from. And it's a great workout.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, it's hard if you do it the right way. Like, if you actually. Have you ever learned how to do it the right way? It's hard.

[James Palmer]

I. I don't know.

[Diana Rossini]

That's great for your cardio. Do you do anything cardio besides skiing?

[James Palmer]

Peloton. I'm a. Yeah. Skiing a peloton guy for sure. Got to keep the lower body strong.

[Diana Rossini]

You told me that.

[James Palmer]

Big peloton guy. Big Alex Dron guy. Yeah. He motivates.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm trying to do a better.

[James Palmer]

Gets me going.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm trying to do more steps during the day. Day. Okay.

[James Palmer]

We'll get a strap a middle school pedometer on you, and we'll see how many steps you can get before the next show.

[Diana Rossini]

Okay, I'm gonna say so. It'll be what, almost a week? It'll be less than a week. 7,000 steps writing it down. Seven. If I. I have. I will keep track of it, I swear, because I know what my life is going to be between now and the next show. If I hit 7,000 steps, I'll be shocked. But are you taking over under on that?

[James Palmer]

I'm taking the over on that. You got two kids. You're gonna be on the move.

[Diana Rossini]

They're so fast, too.

[James Palmer]

Yeah, exactly.

[Diana Rossini]

I gave him my jeans.

[James Palmer]

Thank you, everybody, for tuning in this episode of Scoop City. Diane and I are going to continue to go talk about Jaws. You guys go enjoy your weekend of football. Football. Take it easy.

[Diana Rossini]

Thanks for watching Scoop City. Don't forget to, like, subscribe and feel free to leave a comment. New episodes of Scoop City drop every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

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