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Hello everybody.
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Welcome to our success Thursday, the big.
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Question of the week of course this week with Deniz Ari. Hey Denise, welcome back.
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Hi. Hello.
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So Denise, on Thursday we talk about.
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What success means for for Scrum Masters. But before we dive into that, share with us what's your favorite retrospective format and why?
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My favorite retrospective format, it sounds a little bit dark but I like more fun stuff. I like to do versed retro. I don't know if you ever heard about it.
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Can you describe that for us?
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Yes, of course. I use muralboard and for retrospective session because half of the team joining virtually and I'm preferred face to face retrospective sessions is really good. I don't know. I'm fan of face to face retros. Worst retro it's we are starting generally with retros mood checker or energy checker. You know that we have some graph and everyone's putting the icon how they feel, how they feel your day energy, you know the day moods. And after we dive in three sections. First section, what do you remember from this sprint? Second one, how to make next sprint worse. Which is interesting one, isn't it? And the other section is decide what to do next. Literally we are just saying what do you remember from last sprint? What? How can we make the next sprint sprint more words and decide what to do next? It's up to if you're having like a very difficult time difficult sprints and I am just trying to a little bit make fun and I don't want to be normalized what. What's not working. But they are real, isn't it? They are there. If you don't want to touch, if you're not gonna talk about it and it's. They're just gonna stay there. I don't like to be avoiding not to talk to problems. I like to talk more and visit, analyze and say it loud. I think this is more helping for everyone.
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And actually the worst retrospective actually is a great way because we can use humor and humor allows us to talk about difficult topics without necessarily feeling like they're a big problem. Right. Like we can talk about really serious problems, we can mention them, we can bring them to our conscience but without feeling that oh, the world is about to end. Right. And I think that having that ability to bring humor into the conversation can really kind of shift the energy.
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Yes, definitely. And especially doesn't matter retros or any if there is an intense meeting, you know the. Of course I can't use the humor at any time. But this is retro is. You know, the informal is just. I'm just trying to make people relax and say loudly and encourage them time to time. I know it's not good to. I'm part of it. You know the raising tickets on the sticky notes on the retros. But I'm just saying oh how about this? You totally forget about it or how about that or you remember how was the you know the. Or maybe more encouraging things like you know, the what went well bits. You know, the encourage people appreciate the achievements, you know, the. As a team, as a person. But. But yeah, I'm using humor on this worst retro bit.
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Yeah, absolutely. And of course we do this retros because we want to help the team succeed and we want ourselves to succeed. But before we can do that we need to define what that success means. So Denise, for you, how do you define success as a Scrum Master for yourself?
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Okay, as a Scrum Master I think you know that we need to positive team dynamics. We need to see people can talk each other easily to navigate each other and asking help freely focus continuous improvements. You know, there was a value of what we are delivering and especially empowering and empowering and self managing team which is the. I think this is the biggest part of the evidence for the what is Scrum Master's success if you ask me and the trust and being open if people can speak freely and can easily to work with you know, the team members, other team members and if something's wrong they can easily to reach out to Scrum Masters or anyone and can trust you know the being there was a trunk if there is a transparency and and then other things easily say oh it was wrong. You know, we did doom or we buggered or something like that, you know. Oh it's we did something wrong. Oh okay. Let's have a look. And I'm always keep as a scrum master I'm always keep to remember the people this is the team safe place to fail. You know I can easily to admit my mistakes. I think it's helping me either you know the but as a successful Scrum master biggest evidence I think task managing team and transparency and trust.
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Yeah and one of the things that we need to do of course is to kind of keep our mind and our focus in looking at those aspects that you mentioned like keeping the trust and allowing the teams to or the team members to communicate well and to coordinate well the work between them and you know making sure that the team is a safe place to fail as you called it. Which I think is a brilliant way to describe it. How do you on the day to day or maybe at the end of the week reflection. I don't know how you do it but how do you keep your focus and your mind in those items. Right. Because success doesn't just happen. It's something we need to build over time. So how do you keep yourself focused and always accountable for those aspects of success that you just described?
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My you know the. The biggest another very and very tiring activity day to day even every day. You know just like so many times you know to keep observing be you know to stick with the team and be part of the discussions and just like be part of it. You know doesn't matter how technical the conversation but what I am monitoring or what I am observing how they talking with each other. You know the how they dealing with the problem when we have any blockers and how they tackling with the issues. This is the thing and I am lucky every day we have so many things going on not that much quite environment. That's why easy to I keep be part of it and generally I have a catch up calls with the higher management couple of times in a day and Dave really cares about the peoples of the people's doing in the team and this is really good because what I'm. I'm getting questions. How are you getting what's disturbing you? You know what's your focus today which is really helping me focus again every day. You know the early calls and I can if I'm having. If I start early if I have like this kind of offline chat with the higher management a couple of times in a week and this keep me focused and or constant feedback. You know the when I Observe anything.
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Yes, sorry, yeah, I was just going to say that one example that you just gave, like having this regular catch up or lunch conversation with leadership. I think this is one of the aspects that is really important for us as Scrum masters, which is to create kind of this cadence that allows us to communicate what's going on with the team to the decision makers, but also to get constant feedback and direction from the decision maker so that we can have a dialogue. Right. Like here's what we're seeing, here are some obstacles, kind of raising impediments that we might need help with. And I think keeping that, that cadence is really important. Making sure that you have access to the people who are making decisions 100%.
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And doesn't matter how the observation small or individual because this is bring visual, you know, the visibility for the higher management, how the things works and what's lacking in my area and how they support it as an organization, you know, the wider organization. Yeah, generally regular catch up, constant feedback for anyone, anyone's situation person doesn't matter, including myself, time to time. But yeah, this is helping me to keep focus.
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Yeah, setting up that conversation routine is really important. Thank you for sharing that, Denise.
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No worries.
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Podcast Summary: Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast – "Stakeholder Management Rhythms for Successful Scrum Masters" with Deniz Ari
Host: Vasco Duarte, Agile Coach, Certified Scrum Master, Certified Product Owner
Guest: Deniz Ari
Release Date: May 22, 2025
Episode Title: Stakeholder Management Rhythms for Successful Scrum Masters
In this insightful episode of the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast, host Vasco Duarte engages in a deep conversation with Deniz Ari, an experienced Scrum Master and Agile Coach. The discussion revolves around effective stakeholder management rhythms and what defines success in the role of a Scrum Master. Deniz shares practical strategies, personal experiences, and valuable insights aimed at enhancing the effectiveness of Scrum Masters in their daily workflows.
Deniz kicks off the conversation by discussing her preferred retrospective format, intriguingly named the "Worst Retro." This unique approach incorporates humor to facilitate open and honest dialogue within the team.
Deniz Ari [01:27]: "My favorite retrospective format... I like to do 'worst retro'. We start with a mood checker, then dive into three sections: what do you remember from this sprint, how to make next sprint worse, and decide what to do next."
Key Features of the "Worst Retro":
Deniz emphasizes that this format uses humor to address serious issues without making the conversation feel burdensome, thereby encouraging transparency and fostering a safe environment for candid discussions.
Deniz Ari [03:16]: "I like to talk more and voice, analyze, and say it loud. I think this is more helping for everyone."
The conversation shifts to what constitutes success in the role of a Scrum Master. Deniz provides a comprehensive definition that centers around team dynamics, communication, and empowerment.
Deniz Ari [04:56]: "As a Scrum Master, success means positive team dynamics, people can talk to each other easily, navigate issues, and focus on continuous improvement."
Core Elements of Success:
Deniz underscores the importance of creating a "safe place to fail," where both Scrum Masters and team members can admit mistakes without fear, thereby promoting a culture of trust and continuous growth.
Deniz Ari [04:56]: "The biggest evidence for Scrum Master's success, if you ask me, is task managing the team and fostering transparency and trust."
Deniz shares her strategies for staying focused and accountable to her success metrics, highlighting the importance of constant observation and regular communication with leadership.
Deniz Ari [07:17]: "I keep observing how they are talking with each other, how they deal with problems, and I have catch-up calls with higher management a couple of times a day."
Strategies for Focus and Accountability:
Deniz emphasizes that these practices not only help in maintaining focus but also in building strong relationships with both the team and organizational leadership, which are critical for sustained success.
Deniz Ari [09:24]: "Regular catch-ups and constant feedback help me keep focused and ensure that the team’s needs are met effectively."
In this episode, Deniz Ari provides valuable perspectives on managing stakeholder relationships and defining success as a Scrum Master. Her innovative approach to retrospectives, combined with a clear understanding of the core elements that drive team success, offers actionable insights for Scrum Masters aiming to elevate their practice. Additionally, her strategies for maintaining focus and accountability underscore the importance of continuous engagement and transparent communication with both teams and leadership.
Listeners gain a deeper appreciation for the multifaceted role of a Scrum Master and are equipped with practical tools to foster effective team dynamics and stakeholder management. Deniz's experiences and methodologies serve as a compelling guide for Agile practitioners seeking to enhance their impact within their organizations.
Notable Quotes:
Deniz Ari [01:27]: "I like to do 'worst retro'... It allows us to talk about serious problems without feeling like the world is about to end."
Deniz Ari [04:56]: "As a Scrum Master, success means positive team dynamics, people can talk to each other easily, navigate issues, and focus on continuous improvement."
Deniz Ari [07:17]: "I keep observing how they are talking with each other, how they deal with problems, and I have catch-up calls with higher management a couple of times a day."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and practical advice shared by Deniz Ari, making it a valuable resource for Scrum Masters and Agile Coaches looking to enhance their stakeholder management and overall effectiveness.