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[06:02] — AI Took Over The Comparison Step

[07:33] — Why Brand Is The Bridge

[13:33] — The Awards Your Competitors Are Applying For

[18:32] — Brand Messaging Is The New NAP Consistency

[21:23] — When AI Overviews Get Your Pricing Wrong

[28:56] — How People Are Actually Asking

[37:29] — Beyond ChatGPT And Google