See Ball Get Ball with David Pollack

Episode: Billy Napier Replacements That Actually Make Sense | Indiana Over Ohio State?
Release Date: October 21, 2025
Host: David Pollack
Guests/Panelists: Brent, Brett, Wesley

Episode Overview

In this episode, David Pollack and the See Ball Get Ball team go deep on college football’s midseason shake-ups and coaching carousel, zeroing in on the firing of Billy Napier at Florida and logical (not just headline-grabbing) coaching candidates for the Gators’ job. The crew also delivers their weekly top 12 rankings—highlighting Indiana’s meteoric rise, Playoff scenarios for SEC and Big Ten teams, and under-the-radar program storylines. The episode closes with discussions about key matchups, the “Eliminator” segment, and a celebration of the weekend’s most impressive and surprising performances (including a wild D3 rushing record).

The tone is energetic, irreverent, and deeply knowledgeable—insider analysis paired with sharp opinions and plenty of playful banter.

Main Discussion: The Florida Gators’ Coaching Search

State of the Florida Program & Napier’s Departure

• David emphasizes Florida’s proud football legacy and the frustration of recent mediocrity.
  • “There’s a group of people…a whole set of classes that has gone through that don’t realize that Florida football is elite and that has been elite and that was elite for a long time under multiple coaches not that long ago.” (01:05)
  • Context: Florida has averaged six wins a season since 2020, a sharp decline from the Spurrier/Meyer eras.
• David praises Billy Napier’s handling of criticism and personal attacks, but explains that recent records (6-7, 5-7, 8-5, now 3-4) are simply “not good enough” for the Gators' standard. (02:25)

Criteria for the Next Coach

• The Gators need an offensive-minded, swag-filled coach who can maximize talent, modernize the offense, and re-energize recruiting.
  • “You have to have an offensive minded coach. That’s sort of a QB driven system.” — Brent (11:37)
  • “Florida’s not a middle tier SEC team…this is not who they are.” — Brett (11:43)

David’s Shortlist of Sensible Florida Candidates

1. Jeff Brohm (Louisville)
   • “I’d literally go right to the University of Louisville, not a second, man…an elite offensive mind, a top five playcaller in all of college football.” (04:05)
   • Proven recruiter, creative playcaller (“trick plays—remember him in the XFL?”—Brent, 10:54)
   • Unlikely to leave alma mater, but first call regardless.
2. Eli Drinkwitz (Missouri)
   • Offensive innovator, resilient to coaching turnover.
   • “Nerdy football coach that takes shots. He’s self-proclaimed nerdy. I’m not calling him nerdy. He’s nerdy.” (06:10)
   • Never led a “brand like Florida” but would thrive recruiting in-state speed.
3. Alex Golesh (USF)
   • Just won at the Swamp; SEC experience.
   • “If somebody’s going to hire that dude and that dude’s going to win and be very very successful.” (07:40)
   • Concern Gators may overlook him for being from the “Group of Five.”

Names to Avoid:

• Lane Kiffin: “Lane’s at a spot in his life where he’s so happy…his son Knox had a game-winning touchdown last week…He’s found happiness.” (08:08)
• James Franklin: “That was as toxic as it got at Penn State.” Not the energy Florida needs. (08:40)
• Rhett Lashley: Some intrigue from Auburn/Miami experience but not the top choice.

Insider Note:

• Brent points out Napier’s buyout carries “no offset,” meaning he can take any job and collect ~$21 million regardless (10:16).
  • “Good for him. God bless America.” — Brett (10:29)

What Makes Florida a Top Job?

• Heritage, gridiron speed in state, elite high school football, loaded recruiting base.
• Interim coach: Billy Gonzalez, with previous Florida and Urban Meyer ties.
  • “Let’s see how he finishes this season while they do the coaching search…You never know what the heck can happen down the stretch.” (09:54)

SEC & National Coaching Carousel

Hugh Freeze (Auburn) Under Scrutiny

• Positives: Upgraded talent and defense. Two potential first-round WRs recruited.
• Negatives: “Quarterbacks [are] your specialty. It’s gotta get better.” (09:00)
  • Auburn’s record under Freeze is 14-18 despite roster upgrades.
  • “I don’t know if it’s going to end well.” — Brett (09:55)

Broader Trends

• Accelerated timelines for coaching success:

  • “You don’t need three years anymore. You can plug and play…Stop giving out 10-year contracts. Overpay in minimum years, make them earn it.” — Brett (14:31)

• Coaching contracts and raises:

  • “All these big jobs…It’s going to be like Oprah handing out cars. You get a raise, you get a raise, you get…” (12:50)
  • “Jimmy Sexton—agent for all these coaches. Most powerful man…” — Brent (13:29)

Weekly Top 12 Rankings & Playoff Picture (15:00)

Key Takeaway:
“Welcome to new school college football. We got Indiana at number one.” — Brett (15:09)

Top 12 Summary

1. Indiana

• “A 10 point win at Oregon, which is super impressive…also beat Illinois by 53.” (15:15)
• Next up: Red-hot UCLA.

2. Ohio State

• “Great job dominating both sides of the football…defense still hasn’t given up a touchdown in the first half, which is insane.” (16:12)
• Next up: Penn State (losing luster as a matchup).

3. Texas A&M

• Mixed recent form; defense must improve to face LSU.

4. Alabama

• “Hottest team in the country…you don’t want that Bama smoke.” (16:42)

5. Georgia

• Talent emerging, resilient, but D questionable after loss to Bama.

6. Miami

• Bounced back from adversity; “still on both sides of the line of scrimmage, exceptionally good.” (17:31)

7. Oregon

• Dominant but a loss to Indiana keeps them lower.

8. Oklahoma

• “Defense is still really, really dominant…need Matier to get healthy.” (18:30)
• Debate with Vandy for #8 spot.

9. Vanderbilt

• “Highest ranking since 1947…proven themselves time and time again.” (19:09)
  • If they beat Missouri/Tennessee, could make the playoffs: “How crazy is that?” — Brett (25:24)

10. Georgia Tech

• Explosive offense, Haynes King unflappable.

11. BYU

• Three straight rivalry wins over Utah.

12. USF

• Alex Golesh’s offense humming; faces Memphis next.

Special Note:
“Vandy selling out… How awesome is it for so many fan bases to have a legitimate shot to win a national title…That is so freaking good, man.” — Brett (25:27)

Eliminators

• “Nebraska—no more chance. You’re done.” — Brent (26:09)
• “LSU—I'm eliminating LSU.” — Wesley (27:19)
  • “I don’t see them getting in or winning most of their remaining games.” — Brett (28:14)

Rankings Controversy:

• Vandy vs. Oklahoma debate due to Matier injury and defense.
  • “Vandy has a better win and a better loss…” — Wesley (26:51)
  • Brett sides with Oklahoma for higher ranking (27:07)

Key Matchups & Analytics (29:10)

Oklahoma vs. Ole Miss

• Oklahoma’s RBs had 154 yards vs. South Carolina—a rare rushing performance for them.
• Ole Miss’ rush D is "struggle bus" bad—99th in FBS.

Missouri at Vanderbilt

• Missouri offense has “absolutely flatlined.” (32:23)
  • Prabula magic gone; lack of vertical/pass game hurting them.
• Ahmad Hardy’s decline in rushing production could be pivotal.

Texas A&M at LSU

• LSU’s pass protection: “Team pass block grade was 40.4. Lowest single-game grade in the PFF era.” — Brent (33:47)
  • Tyree Adams (LT) out; A&M’s pressure rate could decide outcome.
  • Both Brett & Brent pick A&M.

BYU at Iowa State

• “10th best rushing offense in FBS…favors BYU in a big way this week.” — Brent (34:59)

Illinois at Washington

• Brett: Only Washington could be a 10-2 Playoff team, not Illinois (“one loss was by 53 points” - 36:11).

Fun and Memorable Moments

• “You get a raise, you get a raise, you get…” — Oprah-style riff on the wild coaching carousel (12:50).
• Napier’s buyout, no offset: “Good for him. God bless America.” — Brett (10:29)
• “Stop giving out 10-year contracts…” — Brett (14:34)
• Vandy’s playoff shot: “When I went to school, Vanderbilt…you could pick out all 12 people that were there.” — Brett (25:27)
• Jeff Brohm “the XFL” and trick plays: “Yeah, play the ball like he has that level of just general swag about him.” — Brent (10:55)
• D3 record-breaker Monty Quinn: “522 yards on 20 carries. 26.1 yards a carry. Are you kidding me?” — Brett (43:00)
• “You don’t need three years anymore. You can plug and play.” — Brett (14:14)

Victory Formation: Winners of the Weekend (39:18)

• Mike Bobo/Gunner Stockton (Georgia):
  • “Everybody’s loving him right now…Mike Bobo apology form…” — Brent (39:18)
• Arizona State (Sam Levitt, QB):
  • “Put the ball in his hands a lot and that sucker delivered…” — Brett (40:44)
• D3: Monty Quinn (Curry College):
  • “Set the all time all level rushing record—522 yards on the ground on 20 carries.” — Wesley (41:00, 42:45)

Closing Notes

• Next episode Wednesday night, 8:30 PM, with live picks and a potential guest.
• Picks for BYU and other analytical breakdowns coming.
• Listeners encouraged to like, subscribe, and join the loyal live chat.

Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "There’s a group of people…a whole set of classes that has gone through that don’t realize that Florida football is elite and that has been elite…" — David Pollack, (01:05)
• “You have to have offense, it has to be an offensive-minded coach.”—Brent, (11:37)
• “Lane’s at a spot in his life where he’s so happy…He’s found happiness.” — Brett, (08:08)
• "Welcome to new school college football. We got Indiana at number one." — Brett, (15:09)
• “Nebraska—no more chance. You’re done.” — Brent, (26:09)
• "Stop giving out 10-year contracts. Overpay them in minimum years, make them earn it." — Brett, (14:34)
• “When I went to school, Vanderbilt…you could pick out all 12 people that were there.” — Brett, (25:27)
• “You get a raise, you get a raise, you get…” — Brett, (12:50)
• “522 yards on 20 carries. 26.1 yards a carry. Are you kidding me?” — Brett, (43:00)

Episode Structure / Timestamps

• 00:14–13:50 — Florida coaching situation and candidate breakdown
• 13:51–25:50 — Big picture: College football coaching landscape, Gator job value, Florida interim
• 25:51–29:58 — Top 12 rankings; Playoff scenarios; Vandy’s emergence
• 29:59–37:52 — Key matchups, analytics, and playoff eligibility
• 37:53–43:23 — Fun facts, Northwestern’s emergence, Victory Formation (winners of the weekend)

This episode is a must-listen for any fan of college football coaching intrigue, emerging storylines, and hard-hitting but fun analysis.