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Billy Napier Replacements That Actually Make Sense | Indiana Over Ohio State?
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Billy Napier Replacements That Actually Make Sense | Indiana Over Ohio State? 0:00 Billy Napier fired and replacements 8:11 Hugh Freeze's dilemma at Auburn 14:49 My CFP 12 if it Started Today 26:10 Teams We Eliminated from the CFP 29:53 Numbers to Know for Week 9 in CFB: Ole Miss-Oklahoma 32:10 Missouri-Vandy Numbers to Know 33:22 Texas A&M-LSU Numbers to Know 34:39 BYU-Iowa State Numbers to Know 35:58 Illinois-Washington Numbers to Know 39:25 Winners of the Weekend 39:20 Who Won the Weekend?
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Brent
And how about that Pollock interception in the end zone?
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Brett
Well, it's David Pollock and I think people are going to learn what kind of ballplayer he is. He's got a heart of a line. I'm really proud of that kid.
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Brent
This is Seaball Get Ball.
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Brett
College football's top show for football analysis.
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Brent
Predictions and coach interviews.
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Brett
Now here's your host, three time All American, seven time Emmy award winner, David Pollock. What up everybody? Welcome on in to Seaball Get Ball. We're getting to the part of the season now where first of all it starts to get the dog years, like right every week starts to get longer, especially for the players because you do the same thing every single week. But we're also getting to firing season and last week was, was Penn State and we talked about that a lot and whether that was the right decision. And you're just hearing more and more about buyouts and different people losing their job, possibly losing their job. Mike Norvell is a name that's being brought up a lot. But I think Billy Napier was, is the guy that got got gone next and we talked about it. Was it the next loss that might cause Florida to fire him? No, it wasn't. They beat Mississippi State. They survived against Mississippi State. It was a great game down to the wire. But I think the biggest thing with Florida, man, this is a proud program. Like this is a program, this is, there's a group of people, there's a high school group now that has grown up in a whole set of classes that has gone through that don't realize that Florida football is elite and that has been elite and that was elite for a long time under multiple coaches not that long ago. Like there's a whole class of kids growing up that haven't witnessed that. And like, and I'm talking about spurrier averaged over 10 years or 10 wins a year for 12 seasons. Like that's dominance. Taking shots at everybody. Like Florida was the place to go. Urban meyer averaged over 11 wins in six years at Florida. And so I think when you think of Florida, I think some people have a notion that Florida is not very good. They're not a perennial power. I think Florida folks are looking around going, are we like, are we a big time program? And the most wins they've had in the season in the last six seasons is eight wins. Eight wins. Like they've averaged six wins a year since 2020, like counting towards this point, towards this part of the season. And so like Billy Napier, first of all, unbelievable job handling all the criticism all the negativity. I don't know that I ever saw him say a negative word. He was always so positive, so gracious. You got fans yelling things at him that you would not yell to him in the streets if you saw him. Absolutely not. Like, absolutely not so. And then his family and what he has to go through and what you have to hear. But the bottom line is this, like 6 and 7, 5 and 7, 8 and 5 with a big rebound last year, and then 3 and 4 at this point in the season at Florida, man, with what I just told you about Spurrier and what I just told you about Meyer, it's not good enough. And like, it's just, it's, it's, it's. You watch this, you watch this offense and you're frustrated. You don't remember Urban Meyer offenses, you don't remember Steve Spurrier offenses. And that's why you, when you transition to like the next coach, like, it's got to be an offensive coach. Dan Mullen had a pretty good run at Florida. Like, I know they ran him out, but he actually won some ball games. And Georgia fans remember wheel route. That happened a bunch. But when you, when you look at the University of Florida and you look at their decision now to move forward, I think, I think there's a bunch of people you can go out to. There's one guy that I don't know that he's going to be talked about a whole lot, but it's the first call I would make. I'm not saying it's the right, right decision, but it's the first call I would make. And that would be Jeff Braum. I'd literally go right to, to right to the University of Louisville, like, in not a second man. And why would I do it? Because Jeff Braum, he is an elite offensive mind. He's a top five play caller in all of college football. He's proven he can recruit. He can run so many different systems and mesh so many different, so many different systems. Really, really well. He knows how to beat Miami. That's a good rival like Florida that he just beat. But I just think with the entertaining brand of football and the great coach that he is. Now, listen, I'm not saying he's going to leave his alma mater. Like, I just. And I don't think he will. That's his hometown. Everything about that, like, probably not going to leave, but, but he's the first guy I would call because I know immediately, beyond a shadow of a doubt, I get his brother Jeff. I get Jeff and Brian. So I get both Brahms but both offensive coaches, both really, really elite at what they do. I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. If I don't get Braum, I'd go to Drink. Eli Drinkowicz, offensive again, an offensive mind. He's been so good. He's done it with multiple coaches. You know, he loses coaches it seems like almost every other year. But he's such a good coach. I think that he's such a good coach he replaces them and the offensive success continues. Now this year it's kind of teetering right now and the offense needs to get back on track because they haven't been really, really good. But Eli Drink of which I think they're the business side of it now listen, he's never been at a brand like Florida. Like I think that he immediately becomes, you know, a better, a better coach because you got. Dude, there's so much access to speed in the state of Florida. Like it's just, it's impressive. Like it's so impressive to watch high school football in the state of Florida. It's always talked about just the speed that you can recruit for your roster. It goes time and time again. So Drink, you know, kind of a nerdy football coach that takes shots. He's self proclaimed nerdy. I'm not calling him nerdy. He's nerdy. But drink's awesome. But he's been also good with the business side. I think of nil. And then the last name that I'll give you that, that I would go next. So this, this is my order of how I go. Alex Golish. And he's a guy that just won in the swamp. He just beat Florida in the swamp, right? High flying O SEC experience, really familiar with the state. Like really familiar. Obviously recruiting in the state, done it at a lower level. Like this is, this is a guy that could come in and win. Now I'm not sure they'll go non group of five because I think that kind of says, you know, Florida might feel like they're above that but if they somebody's going to hire that dude and that dude's going to win and be very, very successful. I don't know if you saw last week they're about like 30 against Texas State and that dude's coaching his tail off. I love that. Sign me up for that. The names that you're hearing that I just don't. I'm not jiving with like Lane Kiffin. I just think Lane's at a spot in his life, man. Where he's so happy and he's so excited. And you saw the documentary, like he's just, he's prospering, right? Like he's doing good. His son Knox through had a game winning touchdown last week. So he's got, he's ingrained in a high school football. Like I just don't think, I don't think he's going to leave because of that. I think he's really, really found happiness. You look in the chat, my man Pred says, says James Franklin. Yeah, I mean James Franklin's one. I'm not sure that name's ready. I'm not sure I'm going there just because of. That was as toxic as it got to at Penn State. And you saw that and how it went down too. And like Florida fans, I don't, I don't know that you hire somebody that they just told to go away. But I think that's, I think that's a guy that you might hear his name and the last one, the last name, Rhett Lashley, like got some swag a little younger. He was at Auburn, he was the OC at Miami. So very familiar within the state there as well. But I just want, I just want everybody to realize like Ford is a great job, man. This is not a slacker job. This is not a job where like you don't get elite coaches. This, that's an elite coach. That's an elite state of high school football with the speed and stuff that goes on. So the interim right now is, is Billy Gonzalez. He's been there at three different stints. He's been, he's been, he worked for Urban Meyer for, for both Natties, by the way. So, you know, let's see how he finishes this season while they do the coaching search because I think it'll, you know, I don't know if he'll have the job or have a chance to win the job, but you never know what the heck can happen down the stretch. But just don't forget Florida's a great spot to be in another coaching hire or another coaching spot. Excuse me, like, and this deserves to be talked about as well. Hugh Freeze is another name that's being talked about and he's under the microscope and, and I get it. I, I love Hugh Freeze. I'm a big hand fan, fan of Hugh Freeze. And if we want to take the positive positives of what Hugh Freeze has done, there are a lot, man. Like if you look at Hugh Freeze and you look at their ability to upgrade the talent Check. There ain't no doubt. Like, the talent is way better than when he got there. Like, he's got two first round, two possible first round picks at receiver on that, on that staff right now. Now look at DJ Durkin home run. Like, DC has been great. Finding defensive talent has been absolutely great. Like, he's done an amazing job with that. So those are two things I'd put in the, in the check column. The thing about it is, what do we know about Hugh Freeze? What do we know about his offense? It's been quarterback, man. He's been so good at getting quarterbacks. He's been so good at finding ways to use mobile quarterbacks, man, not at auburn. Like he's 14 and 18 with the roster upgrades. But the QB's your specialty. Like, it's got to get better. And, and I think one of the things you've seen with Hugh Freeze, too is like the pressure of doing it quickly. And he's talked about rebuilding and remember he had that comment about Kirby and like, he didn't do it that fast. And somebody said it was in the, he was in the SEC Championship or the Natty national championship game two years in. He's like, it wasn't that fast. It was like it was. And then Signetti. Signetti is going to ruin everybody. Because Signetti comes in with his roster and, and says, here we go, let's do this. And that's another thing too, about all those coaches that we're talking about hiring. They all have a chance to bring a lot of their guys and significantly make a dent early with their guys that are familiar with the system that can be very, very successful. So you don't take that for granted when you're hiring a guy. But you know, Hugh Freeze, the quarterback situation, I don't, I don't know that it's going to end well. I really don't. Like, I get. I think it's better than it was. He's had a chance to do so much better, but. Brent, get in here, brother. Like, what do you think about the. What do you think about the Florida names? What do you think about Hugh Freeze?
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Brent
Just.
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Brett
Just thoughts on, on that stuff.
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Brent
So the Florida names first.
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Wesley
Did you see that?
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Brent
He has no offset. Napier has no offset in his language. So he could, he gets his $21 million and he could go coach somewhere. Like he could. If Summerall comes from Tulane to somewhere he can go take that job and make the money. That's amazing.
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Brett
Good for him. God bless America.
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Brent
But the name that you said first was actually the name that I had in my head and I had not seen your list or heard your list until you just said it. Because it, to me, this is about that job, is about offense and swag. And that's Jeff Braun to a T. Like trick plays. And just remember him when he played for the xfl. This is the xfl.
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Brett
And take that.
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Brent
Yeah, like, yeah, play the ball like he has that level of just general swag about him.
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Brett
See, here's what I love about that, Brett. Nobody's talking about that. But like we are and I love that. I'm not saying we're better than everybody else, but like Brent is a brainiac. We watch this stuff like we watch more tape than. I would argue just about everybody. Like, we just love it. We love the sport. And I mean I just, if you, if you're watching Louisville, they find talent. Like he consistently finds talent like Bell from, from Florida State, like Isaac Brown obviously we've talked about. And then he knows how to use that talent. So you know you're going to get talent. You got some talent there already on the roster. And then obviously to me the Lagway thing is going to be interesting and see how that's handled.
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Brent
But you have to have offense, like it has to be off to an offensive minded coach. That's sort of a QB driven system.
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Brett
Because that's the glory days of Florida. That's what Florida fans like, if you're my age, you know that Florida's elite. Like Florida's not a middle tier SEC team. Like what you've seen the last couple of years, you're like that, that's crazy. Like this is not who they are. Auburn, same way. Like, yeah, Auburn's a team that we thought was really, really good, man. Like, that's like they want to get back to that and they've got to nail these hires when, when they make them. And obviously Hugh Freeze is still there.
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Brent
The thing to think about with the fan base, the, the fan bases that are involved in all these because we obviously have with the sec, the three sort of permanent opponents and you know, you've got Georgia as your permanent opponent. Who does the Georgia fan base not want you to hire? Like, they probably don't, they probably don't want to see Lane, especially after this past weekend and, and at that sort of spot. And granted, I know you mentioned Lane and I don't think he's going to leave either. But in terms of, don't want to hide, like to me, Braum is another name that if, if You're a Georgia fan, you're like, oh, that guy's doing what he's doing with that. And then you add the talent into that mix. I'm gonna have to really step up the game, especially defensively.
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Brett
You know who I want to be right now, by the way? Brett. I want to be every coach in college football. Because, my gosh, like, everybody's getting a raise. Like all these big jobs that are coming open, like, it's going to be like Oprah handing out cars. You get a raise, you get a raise, you get. Everybody's getting raises because like Eli Drinkowicz, whether he takes a job or not, Lane Kiffin is about to get a signetti deal for, for, for Ole Miss. Like, absolutely. You're going to get broke the heck off. Like, I thought you were gonna say.
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Brent
Jimmy Sexton, by the way.
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Brett
I mean, yes, yes, Jimmy Sexton.
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Brent
Agent for all these coaches. Yeah, he was at the game, at the Georgia game with Lane. I saw that because I saw Peter Burns tweet about like the most powerful man and then Lane Kiffin because it was talking about Jimmy Sexton. But the Auburn stuff, it's. Again, I think with the time frame that college football exists in now, we're going to transition. And we talked about this when we saw like the first firing at Virginia Tech, how this was going to be a massive coach change year. Because now the timeline to me is getting more and more like the NFL where you get your two or three years and if you don't show significant progress or you know, the program is in the right hands, that kind of thing, you're just not going to.
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Brett
But you shouldn't get more because with the transfer portal now, this is a different world. You don't, you don't need three years anymore. You can plug and play. Like that's. And I think, I think you should. Now this, this is just. It's going to get wackier. Like, it's going, it's going to get more wackier. So this is.
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Brent
Well, because once one guy stop and then there's other.
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Brett
Stop giving out 10 year contracts. Like stop doing it, dude. If you're an ad, overpay them in minimum years, make them go. Earn it. Like, just stop, stop giving out those contracts. But anyways, it's, it's, it's probably not going to happen, but I wouldn't be doing anymore. All right, so we do this every week. We do the, the top 12 and we do it as the, as the committee will do it every single week. So you have big shakeups. As you can imagine. It doesn't take into account conference championship games. We can't do that. We can't project that. We're not there yet. Just straight rankings. This is how the committee will do it later when they get together. And this is something that, that we do every single week. The SEC will continue to eat itself. We, we screwed this up not having a Big 12 team. So we're doing it again. Like very simple. You know, definitely you have to have one of each team. The way it worked out, we were debating we messed it up, didn't do it. Big 12 fans, I apologize. We talk about all the time one of the best conferences in college football. The most parody screwed up. Shoot me at me. I'm definitely the one who messed it up. All right, so here are the rankings. Number one, we got Indiana. Why Indiana? It could be Ohio State, right? Ohio State fans are like, listen, Miami's not there anymore. We should be there. It's Indiana. And Indiana has a, has the better win. They have a 10 point win at Oregon, which is super impressive no matter how you slice it. They also beat Illinois by 53. We can't forget that fact. Ohio State played them. They beat him by 18. So you have common opponents with their two. Indiana has done a great job taking care of what they do. This is the C ball get ball rankings. They're officially number two in the apartment. Highest they've ever been ranked in the history of their program. How dope is that? Like, welcome to new school college football. We got Indiana at number one and next up for them is red hot ucla. Like, take them lightly at your own apparel. They've been doing a great job. They've got momentum. Obviously Nico's been playing good. Number two, the Ohio State University. Great job dominating both sides of the football. They can't help their schedule. They continue to club people upside the face. That's all they're supposed to do. Um, next up for them. Well, next is Penn State, which has lost so much luster, right? Like, golly, this, this was a game that we kind of circled and we were really excited about Ohio State hosting. Now it's like, yeah, okay, not really that good. Ohio State's best win. Texas and Washington, two pretty decent teams. Nobody's going to think they're great teams, but again they've, they've just dominated defense. Still hasn't given up a touchdown in the first half, which is, which is insane. Number three, A&M. A and M was, was not their best last week. Not at all. They gave up 42 to Arkansas. You still got the Notre Dame win. Which Notre Dame beating USC still matters. Notre Dame's creeping up and going to be in this conversation, you know, as everybody continues to cannibalize each other. They beat Notre Dame or they beat Auburn as well. That's okay. Obviously their schedule is not close to done. But at LSU this week, that will be a tremendous challenge. You can't give up that, that defense can't be as bad as they were a week ago because LSU's defense will get some stops and we'll make them play next. The best, arguably one of the hottest team in the country. Yes. Like you can say that. What Bama's done, what Bama's done the last. Just, just think about this. Bama's got a win against number five Georgia, number 10 Vandy, number 15 Missouri, number 17 Tennessee in the last four weeks. Like that's four weeks. Most people in a season aren't playing that kind of a schedule. That's a four game stretch that rivals what anybody's done. They're hot as it gets. We still have to bring the Florida State loss into it. That's part of it. But who wants that Bama smoke? Like I don't think anybody wants it. Ty Simpson playing at the level he's playing defense, continuing to, to level up and play better. Like run game has been more balanced like that, that I don't think you want to play the Tide and they're as hot as anybody in the country and if you put them higher, so be it. Like I don't, I don't have a problem with that, with the way they've played. But because of the Florida State loss, I still have them behind A and M. Next up, another team that's hot, uga. Obviously you have the couple point loss to, to, to Jordan or to, to Bama. That was a competitive game, really good football game. You lost at home, but gunner settling in, offense getting more explosive. Offensive line getting healthier and healthier. Defense still a question mark. I mean we saw Ole Miss have their way with them, but not everybody has the passing game, passing attack, QB run game that can spread you out and do what Ole Miss did. And Georgia just continues to be the most resilient team in the country. And here's another thing too. Once you start winning these games, you start to feel the bulletproofness. You start to feel like, all right, we're going to find a way. That's a powerful thing. Powerful belief at the end of a football Game is something that you want to get all of your players to believe in. It's really hard to get them to but the way they've been obviously playing offensively, continuing to trend up defense got some things to figure out for sure. Next up, number six, Miami. Miami is obviously the Friday night happened. It was not beautiful. It was ugly. Got out to a 14 to nothing hole. And then I think that the aftermath with Carson Beck playing a bad game, throwing four interceptions, throwing five, the roughing, the passer threw back one at the end of the game, how it was handled. I'm going to be very curious to watch Miami because he. I think Carson told the truth. We talked about it here on C ball get ball. Like that's I think what happened. I think it was a miscommunication and I think his titan actually ran the wrong route. But do you say that out loud? And now the scrutiny comes. Carson Beck got scrutinized all last year like he got crucified all last year for everything he did. He responded really well. So I'm not worried about, I'm not worried about Carson Beck and his response. I think he'll do it absolutely like you're supposed to. I think he'll handle the adversity well. And you know, I think Miami still on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Exceptionally good. Oregon, I think Dan Lanning's probably ticked off as much as anybody in the country. They're still hammering people. They're doing well. Nothing to, nothing to report. Nothing to report next week because they play Washington or Wisconsin. Excuse me, like that's not going to challenge them. They haven't been challenged. So it's hard to, to really find out more about Oregon and I'd love to see them bounce back and to have more, you know, to be able to have more challenges and to see if they can get that offense consistently rolling and play better across the board. But they didn't when it mattered most against Indiana. So continue to take care of business. Dan will be upset. Number eight, Oklahoma. Mater did not look like Mater, but the defense is still really, really dominant. And you could have a debate right, like you could have a debate of them or Vandy because I think Vandy has better wins, probably a better win and probably a better loss because oh use Michigan win. Michigan's A top 25 team again, Auburn. But the Texas loss obviously, you know, has to, has to hold you down. Matier is, was healthier last week. He's still not Matier. The ball still not coming out like you want it to but interested to watch. Oh you next up, Ole Miss. We'll find out everything we need to know about Oklahoma. Like everything to neat we need to know. That's going to be an unbelievable showdown. They get to host Ole Miss too which is good. 9 Vanderbilt. Physicality, toughness, ability to to respond to dominate the line of scrimmage. Everybody saw that video of their, their O line just absolutely bodying people up like you gotta love what you see. Next up for Vandy is Missouri. Vanderbilt's just proven themselves time and time again. Highest ranking since I think 1947. Like I'm not good at math but that was a long, long time ago. Good for them. Like great job by Vandy. And so next up now we got. Let's see. We're going to go with Georgia Tech. The Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets debating between them and byu. When you watch both of them undefeated, which they deserve massive credit for. When you look at Georgia Tech and you look at the explosiveness on offense, more playmakers and Haynes King experience, the guy is going to be unflappable, going to make plays. Like it's hard to bet against Georgia Tech. Their schedule coming up and what they got going on too with Syracuse sets up really, really nice for them. So that's, that's. They're above BYU a little bit. BYU probably you could say argue, you know with the win maybe you put them above. But BYU has taken care of business. They took care of their rival again. That's three in a row against Utah. That's, that's pretty crazy. That's, that's a. Now Whittingham dominated the rivalry before that, but they definitely took care of business. And BYU doing everything that they're supposed to do. They're winning football games and remember because I'm an idiot, I screwed this up the first time. But like you have to have a Big 12 team in there. It's not you. You can't do it any other way. That's how the committee will look. Allah. You have to have a Power 4 or a non, a Power 5 team. A non Power 4 team in there too. And that's USF and Alex Ghoulish what they've done. You see him coaching up his dudes, man, like they're killing people so far ahead and he's still coaching his guys like crazy. That's why he's talked about for, for a bigger jobs in the future. And when you watch usf, they're just their speed, their skill, their QB position is legit and Guess who they have this week? Let's get weird. They got Memphis, baby. Like, that's awesome because we talked about Memphis. We had Memphis in this playoff bracket earlier in the year, and USF has now taken that over and we get to see both of those teams play. You've already seen USF knock off North Texas from that debate. Now they got a chance to beat. To beat Memphis. So like we say, we do this every week. The rankings going to give you the top 12 week by week, shuffle them week by week, which I think is the fun part of the process to see, you know, how losses, how wins affect and then kind of throw it on there and then have some accountability every week with it. And there's the top 12 for you dudes.
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Brent
We have to mention the team that is on here that is in your playoff as of right now, and that is Vanderbilt.
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Brett
Yes. They won't be there right now.
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Brent
That non zero chance is hanging around. That's hanging around.
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Brett
They're hanging around for sure.
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Brent
Well, but like, they. They take care of business this week against Missouri. I mean, Texas and Tennessee, they split. I think they're in. I think they're going to be in.
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Brett
They've got a chance. And how crazy is that? Like, that's just.
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Brent
That's amazing.
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Brett
That's amazing. That that's. I mean, that's why. That's why college football is so amazing like that. That's why you should embrace. I know there's a lot you don't like about it, man, but the fact that now that we have so many teams that are spread out, that are competing vandy selling out. Like, when I went to school, Vanderbilt, when you went to a game, it was like you could pick out all 12 people that were there. Like, and it's. I mean, how. How awesome is it for so many fan bases to have a legitimate shot to win a national title to go to a playoff, that is. That is so freaking good, man.
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Brent
Yes. Unbelievable. But there's teams that are maybe kind of not so much in the playoff picture.
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Brett
Yeah, no doubt. The Eliminators. All right, go ahead, Brent. I've been talking a lot, so eliminate somebody.
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Brent
Eliminators. The Corn Huskers. Nebraska. You had a chance. You had a chance to hang around.
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Brett
So you're saying there's a chance.
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Brent
And then you got the boat road just all over top of you. Like it. They just dunked you into the water with the boat. Fleck and company. Minnesota.
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Brett
So, yeah.
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Brent
Nebraska. No more chance. You're done. You were eliminated.
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Brett
Row you. But Wesley, who you got? Who you eliminating? I gotta.
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Wesley
I gotta ask you a question.
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Brett
Yes, sir.
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Wesley
We. We made the. The list today and we had Vandy above Oklahoma. And then you pull a switcheroo on me and put Oklahoma and mess up our graphics. What's up with that?
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Brett
Oh, well, I have it. I have it on the list. I had Oklahoma at 8 and Vandy at 9. On the. On the scoreboard.
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Wesley
Yeah, I texted you and I said vandy has a better loss and a better win. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I like that.
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Brett
I like that. But here's what I meant. I meant we could talk about that because I thought it was a good point. But the reason why I would take Oklahoma is because the John Matier injury and I think Oklahoma's defense. I think Oklahoma is a better team than Vandy.
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Wesley
Okay, all right. Fair miscommunication, but it's fair. My eliminator. Let me get my notes. Lsu. All right. That Vandy game. I love Vandy right now. I do. And LSU's only lost two games. Still mathematically possible to get to the CFP. I just don't like what's going on with BK right now. And I put myself in the shoes of a player and the leadership it takes to navigate that whole season, and it's a grind to get there. And the remaining schedule that LSU has ahead, I just haven't seen that LSU can bounce back from what they've already put out on the field and show that they're going to be much better. So, yeah, they have two losses still mathematically alive, but based on this past weekend, that score a lot closer than what happened on the field. Bayou Bangles are out for me. I've eliminated lsu.
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Brett
I jumped on the same train, and I think it's. It's because you got LSU that now the defense joined the party, not playing well. But A and M, Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, I just don't see them getting in. I don't see a path where they're going to win all of those games or most of them the rest of the way. So I jumped on with west, man. Like, I just. I think the LSU Tigers are going to be disappointed. Now, listen, before the season, there wasn't a lot of people that put LSU in the playoff. There were some, I know, but they're definitely a team that was flirting with there. And we said if they got a defense, they'd be in. They got a defense, but they lost their offense, so. All right, give me some numbers, Brent, for week nine that are going to be Are going to be big time. Are going to be keys to some of these matchups.
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Brent
One quick thing before we hit that, before we hit that. If I gave you a one loss team that has a victory at your previous number one, would you want to maybe put them higher in those?
- [29:11]
Brett
You gave me a one loss team with a victory at number one. Like Louisville.
- [29:16]
Brent
You had number one. Louisville, otherwise known as Louisville.
- [29:20]
Brett
Yeah.
- [29:20]
Brent
Also has a. That's one where like, that's like they're kind of underrated, I think.
- [29:26]
Brett
Yeah, they should be ranked. But they also, but let's, let's not forget, let's not forget the Virginia game and the pit game. Let's not act like that. But you're right though, they deserve credit for that. They get the win, but they also have a couple of smears that you just go, that was not good performances. Their ball boy does maybe deserves to be ranked higher.
- [29:44]
Brent
But that's for sure. But that's, I mean it's one of those things when we look at all this and you think, hey, best win that, that that win is almost as good as it gets. That's for sure. This week we've got as we look ahead every week when the numbers Don't Lie, brought to you by Pro Football Focus, who I've worked for now for 12 years. That code get ball 25 in the. And the link is in the YouTube description there. So click that. But the first we look ahead at the games that are coming up this week, first we got Oklahoma hosting Ole Miss as of the AP ranks 8 at 13. Early spread Oklahoma 4 1/2 point favorite. So we kind of talked about a little bit just quickly when Oklahoma played South Carolina, the production they got from their running backs in that game went back and watched a lot of just good stuff from them in the running game. 29 attempts, 154 yards in the run game, two touchdowns and five 10 plus yard runs from their running backs. I went back and looked outside of the main game, Maine as in the school, Maine, like state Maine. That's the most out book running back output they've had since a win over TCU in week 13 in 2023. And that year it only happened twice. So like unreal that it's been that long. When you think back to even Lincoln Riley and how much the running game mattered with Lincoln Riley that they had that level of production from the running back and it actually only happened they only beat that number one other time in 2023. So you've got to go back to like when they had the Gray Eric gray kid in 2022 to when they actually had running game like that. And then now they go get some running back production and they go play Ole Miss. Who's running defense is struggle bus 99th in the FBS and 68th and the FBS and run D grade. So I was just. I was shocked that how little running back production they've gotten all the years.
- [31:36]
Brett
You know. You know what too, man, could you imagine? Well, here's the thing. I think the others have to be better right now until Mater gets to be Mater. Like they've got to get that because watching the South Carolina game, it was better than Texas, but the ball still didn't come off of his hand like you used to see in the zip and that thing going to the receiver with great accuracy. So that. That's a big key to me. Brent too. They got. They got to help him out, man.
- [32:00]
Brent
Well, it's. And maybe one of those blessing in disguise type things. Especially if like hey makes you have to work on it. Let's get this part of our team right while he gets back himself back to health.
- [32:10]
Wesley
All right.
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Brent
We talked about Vandy. So Missouri at Vandy. Vandy early favorite, two and a half points. If you had to put one of these teams in the playoff. If I told you one of them make it, which one are you taking?
- [32:23]
Brett
I take Vandy because here's what's. It's discouraging to me about Missouri. That offense is absolutely flatlined. Like the Prabula magic that you were talking about early in the season, like. And you were giving me these numbers like it's. It's gone back, it's regressed to the mean. There's a reason why he wasn't starting over Drew Aller. And we knew that right like that. That was. That was not a surprise. And I think to watch that lack of vertical passing game, but lack of passing game period in production from that point. So the run game started to stutter a little bit now too. So that offense is just. It's not humming.
- [32:59]
Brent
So speaking of that, after five straight weeks of over 100 yards, Ahmad Hardy, can he get back to being Ahmad Hardy? 12 for 52 against Bama, 24 carries for 58 yards against Auburn. Now those are pretty stout defenses, but can he get back to doing that against Vandy? I don't know. We'll see. I think that's going to matter big time in terms of the outcome of that game. Third game, that's a sort of ranked matchup a M at lsu. So you remember how we talked about last week, LSU going that they held they'd only struggled against South Carolina from a pass pro standpoint and that both of their sort of low grade games were against South Carolina. Well, last week against Vandy, their team pass block grade was 40.4. It was the lowest single game grade in the PFF era. That's 12 years.
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Brett
You said 40.4.
- [33:50]
Brent
Yes.
- [33:51]
Brett
Holy.
- [33:52]
Brent
So really bad. 60s average. 60, sort of that average point.
- [33:55]
Brett
So it's like my grades in school.
- [33:58]
Brent
Yeah, even better.
- [33:59]
Brett
60 was my average.
- [34:01]
Brent
Yeah. But like you think about like, Nuss was under pressure, 43 of his drop backs. The left tackle, Tyree Adams went out early in that game. I saw where he's out against A M. And now you face a M who's 10th in the. In the power four and pressure rate. That's a bad stretch. And because not. I thought into that game, I thought Nussmeier was going to die at certain points in that game because he was getting destroyed.
- [34:24]
Brett
He played his best game.
- [34:25]
Brent
Oh, he played great. But he was getting destroyed in that game. Yeah. All right, so that. Does that make you have an early lean or. No.
- [34:35]
Brett
A hundred percent A. M. Okay. All right.
- [34:38]
Brent
So you. Okay, I agree. Next up, byu coming off their big win and the higher ranking, they go to Iowa State. Actually, Iowa State is a 2 1/2 point favorite in terms of the early look that I looked at BYU and we're going to look at them this week and something's brewing. The running offense is as good as.
- [34:57]
Brett
It gets because they have a bad quarterback.
- [34:59]
Brent
And you have 40. A 47 bear, whose name is Bear, wearing 47 at quarterback, 10th best rushing offense in the FBS. They're number five in the power forward run block grade. So like it's. It's effective play, not just getting statistics.
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Brett
And it worked. Versus Utah.
- [35:17]
Brent
Yes. Which is another animal in and of itself. But Iowa State, 67th of the 68 Power Four teams in run defense grade and tackling grade. This is kind of one of those matchup things where it's like that's a. That favors the ranked team and that favors BYU in a big way this week.
- [35:37]
Wesley
Yeah.
- [35:37]
Brett
But here's what I'll say about that too. What I've learned over the years too is these lines when you look at them and you're like, that really stinks. They're usually right. So I get it. But somehow that happens.
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Brent
It's at Iowa State, which is freshman quarterback Bear playing at Rocco back. That. That's that's one where I could see that, that being theirs and last game to look at and sort of a look ahead game, which I think is very much a playoff elimination game, is Illinois at Washington. And so the question for this one, if one of these teams finishes 10 and two, are they a playoff team?
- [36:12]
Brett
The only one that could be a playoff team is Washington because Illinois has two losses that are. One was 53 points. Broski. 53. Like I'm not exaggerating like I normally do. Like, it was a 53 point loss.
- [36:27]
Brent
Yes.
- [36:28]
Brett
They weren't that competitive versus Ohio State. Like, it's, it's, it's gotta be Washington, who was competitive against Michigan, who was competitive against Ohio. I mean, they played Ohio State probably better than anybody has in the country. So you're going to get some credit for that. But man, Cali, me and you both thought Washington was better than they were last week and they would be fine. And they, they, they look bad, so they got to bounce back. And there is obviously something to go on across the country. And they do it a lot in the Big Ten and you've seen it. It's taken its toll and it's had some magic. And now Illinois has to go at Washington where they're, they're tough to beat and tough to play against unless you're Washington.
- [37:05]
Brent
So if Washington does win this game, they go at Wisconsin, Purdue, at ucla, which is now a different animal. Yep. And then they get Oregon at home. So, like if they finish 10 and 2 with that running through that they're a playoff team.
- [37:19]
Brett
If they beat Oregon. Yes.
- [37:21]
Brent
Yeah, I agree. Illinois would have their best wins, would be USC and Washington because the last four games, Rutgers, Maryland, Wisconsin, Northwestern, they're not getting any bump from those. They'd have to be. It'd have to be carnage elsewhere. And there'd probably be that tenant. They'd be maybe that 10 and two team that's right on the cusp of left out or a debate with a nine and three.
- [37:42]
Brett
Other carnage, I think you would agree and I would agree is coming.
- [37:47]
Brent
Yes.
- [37:47]
Brett
I think there's, I think there's plenty more carnage coming. So nobody's at it.
- [37:52]
Brent
There's a world. There's a world where.
- [37:55]
Brett
Can I name. Can I ask you a question?
- [37:57]
Brent
Okay, ask away.
- [37:57]
Brett
Who do you think's ranked third in the Big Ten or fourth in the Big Ten?
- [38:02]
Brent
Let's see. So you got Indiana and Ohio State.
- [38:05]
Brett
And Oregon to give you those three.
- [38:07]
Brent
Oh, in terms of ranking or like conference standings in the conference standings.
- [38:11]
Brett
Who do you think is the fourth team in the Big Ten?
- [38:14]
Brent
Why am I drawing a blank?
- [38:15]
Brett
You have zero chance. That's why.
- [38:17]
Brent
Probably. No, I actually know this because they won last week, too. They won two in a row, Big Ten games. That would be Northwestern.
- [38:26]
Brett
Northwestern. That means they're five.
- [38:31]
Brent
Yeah.
- [38:32]
Brett
Actually doing kind of good. Like they're winning close and they didn't get. They only got beat by 20 to Oregon. They play. They didn't lose that bad to Illinois. Like, they. They're a good freaking football team, man. Like, I got it.
- [38:44]
Brent
Let's look at their schedule.
- [38:46]
Brett
I looked at it earlier today at Nebraska.
- [38:49]
Brent
Yep. Let's see. That's this week.
- [38:51]
Brett
Yep.
- [38:51]
Brent
At USC versus Michigan and then at Illinois.
- [38:56]
Brett
Yeah.
- [38:56]
Brent
Yeah, I think it might come.
- [38:58]
Brett
Yeah. But I just, I think we as a team that we haven't talked about getting much respect, but they found a way to win close games. And so that's, you know, I just, I like to give teams credit and they deserve some credit. So there's our rankings, boys. Now we get to do the victory formation and we do this every week as well. So, Brent, I'll let you start this one off again too. Who won the weekend, bro?
- [39:19]
Brent
This one's fun. Local. I think Mike Bobo slash Gunner Stockton, but more so. I'm going to say more so Bobo because just the vibe in the Georgia fan base after. After this past weekend was they found their new Bobo. It's just the other coordinator, not him. Everybody's. Everybody's loving him right now. And the fact that is, I even saw online, I saw a Mike Bobo apology form where you could check there was reasons for your behavior, submit it to Mike Bobo and your reason for.
- [39:53]
Brett
Your behavior, bro, you might as well put Gunner Stockton on that list too. You might. They might. That should be a package deal.
- [39:59]
Brent
So like Mike Bobo, Gunner Stockton, I think they very much won the weekend.
- [40:04]
Brett
Yes, they definitely won the weekend.
- [40:05]
Brent
They.
- [40:05]
Brett
They took care of business. I got Arizona State. Hold on the helmets right back there. Still haven't hung it up yet. We're working on it. Still a work in progress. But like you think about QB getting healthy, you think about how big that win was in the league, in the Big 12 to stay alive. Now in the schedule coming up, they got Houston, they got Iowa State, they got West Virginia, they got Colorado and they got Arizona. So Sam Levitt back healthy. They put the ball in his hands a lot and that sucker delivered like big time win of the weekend for Kenny Dillingham, Sam Levitt and Arizona State. Wesley, what you got, brother?
- [40:44]
Wesley
All right, you're going to love this. And when I say that, I mean I anticipate you're going to hate it. We don't talk about D3 college football on this show a lot, but the Curry College Colonels, you ever heard of them?
- [41:00]
Brett
Curry College Colonels? Ccc.
- [41:03]
Wesley
That's right. Triple C. We'll get this. Monty Quinn, their running back, set the all time all level rushing record in College football history. 522 yards on the ground. On the ground versus Nichols College. So I know we don't go D3 often. I get it. This is a broadcast, not an interview. But if we're talking winners of the weekend, that guy won forever. Until someone else gets 523 or more curry College Colonels, it's the only time we're going to talk about them on the show. Monty Quinn, the winner of the weekend. Take a knee, son. 522 yards. And if you, if you think you've heard of Nichols College before, maybe you heard about him when they lost 92 to 60 against Coast Guard in the highest scoring regulation game in college football history. So Nichols College, the losers of the weekend, yet again, they're on the wrong.
- [42:12]
Brett
They're on the wrong end of the things that are going on. I wanted to know how many carries, like, did he have 400 carries? Did he carry the ball every single play? Like 522 yards.
- [42:25]
Wesley
I mean, let me see, let me see what he had. Let me see what he had. 522 yards. Single game record at any level for Curry College. The Internet's broken today. I don't know if y' all have had that issue or not. So I'm going to tap dance a little bit here, but can you imagine, like, what do you, what do you do as a defender?
- [42:45]
Brett
20 carries.
- [42:49]
Wesley
It doesn't even seem mathematically possible.
- [42:51]
Brett
20 carries. He had 500. And 22 on 20 carries. 26.1 yards of carry. Are you kidding me?
- [43:00]
Wesley
How about that Monty Quinn?
- [43:05]
Brett
You should get him on the show. Eight rushes over 25 yards. All right, Wesley. Well, you, you, you brought us that good nugget, Wesley. Wrap us up. Tell us, tell us where we're going to be on, when we're going to be on here. So everybody knows. Cause you do this a heck of a lot better than my dumb defensive C ball. Get ball brain in mind.
- [43:24]
Wesley
All right, while I do this, you can start working on that Arizona State helmet. We will be back. We'll be back Wednesday night, 8:30 live. Still working on a guest for this week. We'll keep you posted on that. Something's brewing coming up on byu, as Brent mentioned, and our picks will be out Wednesday morning as well. And hit. Hit like hit. Subscribe Appreciate everyone in the comments tonight. Comments were only for our loyal subscribers tonight, so thank y' all to everyone that was in there getting a piece of that action. We'll see y' all again on Wednesday night.