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Brian Hartline
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Interviewer Dave
All righty. Next on the new coaches in new places. Coach Brian Hartline, you take yourself to, to usf. I mean, the first question I think is going to be really easy. Coach, we've heard about you for man opportunities that you've had for years. Why was this the moment you to. To leave this, the beautiful state of Ohio that you spent a lot of your time in?
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Brian Hartline
Yeah, I mean, it could be definitely a long, long winded question or a long winded answer. Excuse me. You know, I, I lean heavily on the guys that I got to coach for with coach Urban Meyer and, and coach Ryan Day. So picking their brain a little bit was really important. But, you know, I kind of have my criteria. You know, I always felt like Ohio is definitely home. My, my in laws are in Columbus, Ohio. My wife's from Columbus, Ohio. So to pull my kids away from my in laws, their grandparents had to be the right spot. And so the combination of definitely winning, you know, was really, really important for us. Consistently being in a spot that valued that, that their resources and resource allocation reflected that, you know, was really important. I think that, you know, for us spending some time in Miami as a player, we always felt like, you know, the state of Florida was always a second home to us. I'm not saying it had to be Florida, but we did say if we're gonna ever leave, you know, Ohio State, we wanted to head south. I think that ultimately why that was wasn't always just weather. I just think sometimes in the South There's a, there's a, A big time love for football and sports and just the way they spend their resources, the way they allocate time in Texas and Florida for athletic periods and like, there's just a different vibe sometimes, I think, in different, in different spots. So that was always intriguing to me. And then ultimately it came down to her. I mean, when she gave me, she gave me the thumbs up that she, you know, it's time for us to go do this. That's ultimately when I knew, like, I wanted to. To leave Ohio State and go somewhere. So USF was the right fit. We thought it checked a lot of our boxes. And then since being here, it's definitely reconfirmed that. So it's exciting. Can't believe it's only been three months. Can't believe it's been three months. But spring is, is gone. Has gone pretty well. So excited where we are right now.
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Interviewer Dave
Who was the first call you made, coach, when you got the job?
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Brian Hartline
My wife. I mean, that was the first one when I was having a conversation.
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Interviewer Dave
Really.
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Brian Hartline
It was the approval. There was pretty cut and dry.
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Interviewer Dave
That. Okay, not. Not family. Who was it? Who was not. Not wifey. Who was the next one?
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Brian Hartline
What? Coach Ryan Day. When I told him that I did accept it, that's the first call that obviously I would make to make sure he was aware of that because we were going back and forth and we were up all night and, you know, they flew up to see me. I saw him at the practice and the whole thing and. But yeah, we didn't decide until way early in the morning. And so I, I actually didn't call Coach Day. I saw him first thing the next day to make sure he was aware before it got out. So. But no, it was a crazy process, frankly. The process needs fixed, you know, for us to be in the middle of chasing a championship and then also signing Day. But then I held the guilt of making sure that my sign class knows I won't be there, but then also giving everything I got to the team I love. Like, it just was kind of bizarre in that spacing. Hopefully we can get this figured out. College football. But ultimately, yeah, it was a crazy time.
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Interviewer Dave
All right, so. So now what. What, what kind of dad are you? Because I, I know you're a dad and I, I've seen enough of you as a player and I know we're going to be kindred spirits. Even though you're an offensive guy, you got some, you got a little edge to you. You are not a normal Typical diva wide receiver, I would say. So what kind of dad are we? Like, what kind of are we?
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Brian Hartline
The.
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Interviewer Dave
Can we turn it off? Can we be chill? Can we have fun and just play for fun?
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Brian Hartline
So, yeah, no, winning's fun. So we don't. We don't believe in fun. So we have two rules in our house. My oldest is eight. My youngest, who's now four. My. And my girls in the middle, but she gets all of it. So we have two rules. It was the number one rule when he was young. It was just go hard. It was just go hard. That's it. But no one else matters. Go hard. That's the only thing I'm going to ask you at the end of the day. And then the. The next one now is, you know, we. We like. We. We hate to lose more than we like to win. That's our new thing. Go hard. We hate losing.
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Interviewer Dave
Go hard.
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Brian Hartline
We hate losing. And. And winning is an expectation. We expect to win. That's. That's why we put the work in. But losing is unacceptable. So it's kind of what we talk about, really, as a dad, can I turn it off? No, I can. I assess constantly. Like, his. His. His body movements, his kinesthetic skills, his awareness. But, like, all I care about is this guy going hard. So I watch these guys, and we're blessed right now. Tampa's got a great sports background and love, and the. The youth sports are awesome. So we got some guys that, you know, are doing a great job in flag football, and I'm sitting back and watching his drills. My wife's, you know, recording them, and they're great, like, just from going hard, competition, change of direction, like, really good stuff. So I'm excited for him. He's actually playing up. So he's a second player, second grader, and he's playing with third and fourth graders. He ideally wanted to be in the first and second. And I said, listen, I'll try to see if I can get you there. But, hey, shockingly, he didn't make it to the first and second. He's at the three and fours, but he's excited. He's at the point now where he enjoys being around good players, which is, like, I'm blessed about. He's been around other players, and he won't say it. He's like, but, dad, dad, they suck. I hate it. Like, I want to be. I want to be around better players. I'm like, I like that. Now, don't tell them that.
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Interviewer Dave
But, like, be a good teammate.
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Brian Hartline
Not wanting to be the best player on your team, you want to be around for good players, which is a good sign. Good.
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Interviewer Dave
Yeah, that's a good sign. The only thing that, the only thing I'll tell you that I did wrong and listen, you can, you can, you can have this what it's worth. But like the, the problem with me, the hard part was like I did the same thing and I was like, hey man, it's just about effort. It's just about effort. It's just about going hard. The problem is a six year old, an eight year old, a ten year old, they don't understand what that means. I'm asking them to do something that they can't physically do and understand yet for them at this age. Right. Like I, I need to chill out a little bit. It's not sprinting through the whistle of, of, of, of, of, of college football and NFL football. And so, and when I learned to just shut up and kind of back out like, and just chill, it, it really helped.
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Brian Hartline
So I will say though, I mean I try to make it quantifiable. Like when they say, hey guys, let's, let's go touch the fence and come back and let's get water. I'm like, you were first though, right? Like I, I don't care, like whatever they say, 90%, that's fine. 90, you're 90% versus 90%. If you gotta go 92%, I don't, I don't really care. Like you're gonna be finished first. Right. So he got that early. He's already doing it. I don't have to push him. So thank God it's not a, a drop in the bucket. But you know, him wanting to be first and he'll tell me that like that's, that's kind of how I quantify going hard, if you will. Yeah, but I think he's been good. Like he's, I, I, I try to figure out, feel him out and he's, he gets it and I don't over push it, but he's, it's been good. I'm, I'm encouraged, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Interviewer Dave
That's good. No, that's good. That, that's, and that's fun, man. That's fun.
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Brian Hartline
You asked that question. That's great. I'm trying to, I'm now trying to
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Interviewer Dave
navigate, you know, now you're going to analyze it. What kind of games do we play, Coach, with the family? What are the board games? What are the card games? What do we love to do?
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Brian Hartline
Yeah, it's a good question. I would say that we like going on walks. The guys will get on bikes and we'll ride around, which is fun for those guys. Frankly, my. And it's not me. My wife, my. My. My son asked me to go out in the yard and run routes. He does. He wants me to throw routes to him. That's a big thing right now. He does like Fortnite. So we'll try to spend some time. I love that.
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Interviewer Dave
I love video games.
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Brian Hartline
Yeah, a little bit of video games, which can be good. We definitely try to put a time limit on that. Board games. Trying to think what we. What we've done as of like Candyland was there, but it was also. What's the one where you pop it and you move the. Sorry.
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Interviewer Dave
Yes, sorry. And you move the pieces. You can only move the certain amount.
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Brian Hartline
That was a hot family game.
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Interviewer Dave
And you land on top of them and you send them back. That one they get. Everybody gets ticked off at you.
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Brian Hartline
Exactly right. Exactly. Now the. The four year old can play that, which is pretty good, I would say. And then card game. I have it on. Tip my tongue. You know, when you're trying to max. Max. Uno, uno, uno, uno.
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Interviewer Dave
So matching the ages is hard. When you've got eight, six, four, like, it's just.
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Brian Hartline
Yeah.
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Interviewer Dave
It's hard to get everybody to do that.
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Brian Hartline
We've done a good job with that, so. But no good times. And the weather's been nice, so we've been outside a lot. Awesome.
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Interviewer Dave
Well, that, That's. That's a big difference in Ohio, by the way, because I'll never forget I got recruited by Ohio State, coach.
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Brian Hartline
Yeah.
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Interviewer Dave
And I'll never forget, it's the first time I've ever been on an airplane. So I visited Florida, Georgia, Clemson. I fly to Ohio State and I'm like, mama, what is that on the ground? And she was like, that's snow. And I'm like, hell, no, Mama. Like, I'm out. Like, no. What? No, absolutely not. And God has a sense of humor because I got drafted by the Bengals four years later.
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Brian Hartline
Exactly right. Hey, could have had four years of prepping in the snow to get ready for that. But, you know.
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Interviewer Dave
And I would have won a national title, by the way, at Ohio State if I'd have went there. So, I mean, it was. It's pretty good. How do you coach you. You've been, man, for years. Like we have heard about. I mean, I could. The list goes on and on of receivers, man. It's an embarrassment of riches of receivers I don't, I don't even know how to ask this correctly, but like Jeremiah Smith and Olave and Garrett Wilson and Jackson, Smith and Jigba and Buka and McLaurin. Dude, we could keep going. Probably down the list is Jeremiah Smith the best of that group? Which is, which is hard to say, but like where he's at now and physical gifts, like, who, who's the most talented that you coached of those guys? And maybe it's different parts of them for different. I guess if you were building a receiver, what parts of those guys would you take to, to make the perfect wide receiver?
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Brian Hartline
Yeah, all fair questions. I think that they all are definitely different, you know, and, and special in their own ways. You know, I can't ever say like, who the best guy is. Like, with all due respect for me, I always feel like I'm a matter of fact guy. So, like, you know, Jackson had 1600 yards in college. Jackson won off as a player of the year in the NFL. No one else has done that. Garrett won rookie of the year. So like, to me, I think there's, there's gonna be merit to actually the accomplishment, not just opinions. So I've always kind of thought that way.
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Interviewer Dave
You know, what makes Jeremiah Smith so great then?
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Brian Hartline
Yeah, so I, I've used this reference a lot. Like he, he is physically gifted. Don't get me wrong, a lot of these guys are physically gifted. But probably the amount of boxes that he checked at an early age has been different. Let's just call what it is. Everyone's working really hard potentially to get to his size and speed equation that he had at an earlier age. So he was very, you know, he was blessed with that. But like his mentality on how he attacks the day and his, like we have warmups and we would, you know, run to get our bodies moving. He would win every single time. Like, he wouldn't let anybody beat him. Like, it was never okay. And so, you know, he never was in a spot where he gave himself an excuse. I mean, he came in and wanted to compete on the, on the bikes to make sure he won like the competition. Like he, that was his expectation as a freshman on. So as a player, you know, he would just. The ball was snapped. He would just run off the ball as fast as possible and then stop fast as possible or change direction as fast as possible. Like the simplicity of his, of the coaching, which he got great coaching in high school. Slide Johnson did a great job with him from an early age, you know, working with him. But like he didn't know why things were good. He didn't know why it was good. Like it wasn't because he caught the ball. Like production doesn't equal good. Like production is just a byproduct of like the quarterback doing his job and you catching the ball. But he didn't understand why everyone would back up. Like his body language was never changed. He'd run off the ball the exact same way. You could never tell what was going on. I tried to explain to guys the art of playing receiver is like knowing what I'm doing and keeping it a secret as long as possible. And the DB is just trying to figure out what you're running. Defensively, you're just trying to figure out what the offense is running. As soon as you identify stretch, they're out, the backers are gone. As soon as I identify counter, they're playing over the top. They're going to get an empty nose stunt. You're going to try to get somebody, you know, adding back to the gap. The goal of, of play action is to be in the mesh long enough to get a head start on a DB that's not backing up yet. So you can run by their ass, vice versa. My point is, you know, I was trying to train these guys the art of like keeping your route a secret, using what you've used in the past already to manipulate DBs. And that was the conversation. So he already had already a lot of built in mentality. He would run off the ball really fast and stop really fast. That's where it starts. But then obviously the learning of why things are good, why they're working so you can increase the odds of doing that was part of the learning process. But that was for all these guys. And yeah, and the sweet sauce has been like their ability to take the coaching and then be able to apply it as you know, is like the hardest part. Right. I mean guys that don't apply, it's really hard to improve. So. But no, very blessed with all those guys. They are. Coaches don't make plays, players do. And so all the credit goes to those guys. But their willingness to be coachable and put in the effort, that's. That's what changes everything.
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Interviewer Dave
Well, you got to get them there. And you, you've been known for a guy that just, that gets so many great receivers. I'd be stupid not to ask you this question, like what makes a great receiver? What do you, what are you looking for? Like what are those traits that, what are those non negotiables or what are Those things that man, like, yes, yes, I want that.
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Brian Hartline
Yeah. So I think you have to, you know, athletically you'd be able to check a box. I just always felt like, again, I'll reference this. When I was in Miami and I was playing alongside, like, the likes of, you know, Brandon Marshall and Jarvis Landry and Mike Wallace, Brandon Gibson. We had a bunch of play with, you know, with Hawk and Cleveland, like for. For. We're all so different. I mean, you got Hawk at what, I don't know how tall I should say he is, but he's, you know, a little shorter. Then you got, you know, Brandon Marshall at, you know, six three or six four and weights everywhere from 225 to, you know, 170. Maybe with Mike Wellis. But like, the. The point is we only shared one thing. Like the. The closest thing we had was our mentality. Like, may have different backgrounds, maybe communicated differently, but the way we approach things, the way we thought about things and coachable, like, that was our closest trait. So in the recruiting process, you have to be able to check the box athletically, like, you got to predict frame. Is he big enough already?
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Brian Hartline
Be cool. Check that box. Can he get big enough? Okay, that's your decision. Kinesthetically, does he know how to run? Like, can I teach him to run better? I think one of the biggest things for me, I don't want to give everything all my secrets away. But like, I love guys that play at max capacity. So if you're only a 4 6, I want you playing at 4 6. Because I know when I give you to Ohio State strength program or USF strength program, like you're gonna play faster because you're gonna get faster. But like if you're already fast and you don't play fast, like red alert, something's not clicking because football is only going to get harder. And that worries the crap out of me, I guess to my point quickly was the mentality of the guys. That's really what I'm trying to look for athletically. You got to check boxes, but your makeup is your best correlation between success and not making it. And so I try to invest in that.
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Interviewer Dave
I love that you're. I'm going to be giving these to my son. So this is, this is really, really
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Brian Hartline
good guarantee though, right, Dave? I mean, we know that, but it's just again, odds of success, you know, so the more you have these certain traits, your odds of success go up. I mean, and I just think the mentality is the most correlating odd than, than anything else.
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Interviewer Dave
So, so you take the job. What was I imagine guessing? Because we've been, we've been talking about you taking the job for years and you've had plenty of opportunities to take jobs. So what did it look like? What were the non negotiables for your oc, for your dc? And then I kind of kind of got to know about the quarterback coach because that's kind of important to me. How do you, how do I want to know how that family dynamic works out too? By the way, if he's the one, is he the one that can check you and be like, yeah, hey, shut up, bro.
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Brian Hartline
That's definitely not the case. Oh, no shot. So, yeah, starting coordinator wise, I mean, I think it was important. I did, I did best I could on talking to a lot of different people, a lot of great coaches, a lot of coaches that are up and coming that definitely are going to do a good job. And just ultimately, in the end, as a first time head coach, I felt like I was gravitating towards a guy with experience. And I was, I mean, all over the map from schematic value of grabbing what we did, you know, my previous spot and bringing that with it and meshing it with something. And I had all kinds of thoughts. Ultimately, I think it was best to find a guy that had a ser. A relative similar track record of association with Ohio State. Tim Beck spent a lot of time with Coach Meyer at Ohio State with a similar philosophy, similar terminology that we kind of ended up enhancing we felt like at with Coach Day and myself, Coach Day coming into Ohio State in 2017, myself included along with Kevin Wilson and I was a GA for that first year, but then in receiver coach in 2018 and on and on. So we kind of. Coach Day was obviously a big part of a lot all of that. And as it grew at Ohio State, it was, you know, Ryan Day's offense and so trying to become an expert at that. So the ability to take, you know, early, you know, urban Coach Meyer at Ohio State and blend it with Coach Day and, and where the. How that all works was, was my goal. I think we did a really good job with that. Let alone him being at Texas and NC State and being a head coach and all the things he could bring to the program, coaching great quarterbacks along the way, I mean, all of that was really important. DC wise, Josh Aldridge just been around a really good coordinator, has been around big time ball and did. Did a really good job in East Carolina last year. You know, probably necessarily maybe the most talented group, you know, in the conference in the nation, but led the conference in defensive statistics. And that was really important. I really wanted to get a guy that knew the conference well and really had maximized his players at the highest level. So the combination of that was really good. And then frankly now to play into the quarterback coach there was never really.
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Interviewer Dave
What's his name, coach? Go ahead, what's his name? Coach?
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Brian Hartline
Mike Hartline is my brother. All right. So there's a lot of things that go into that and it was not like a formal conclusion. Honestly. I think that, you know, we obviously had conversations and if you know me at all, like, I'm the last person to hand anything out. So a couple things happened, to be frank. One, I love the idea of having former players in the position rooms. That's really, really important to me. I just love the ones that kind of. Not that you, if you haven't done it, it's not, it's not a bad thing, but there's just an understanding of, of being a former player that I think can't be lost. So obviously Mike, being that he played at Kentucky, did a really good job there for two years, you know, led SEC in throwing. I believe in one of the years, like he did a good job and you know, so if there was an opportunity, it would be great. He had an opportunity to work with Coach Beck at Ohio State when he was first getting going. So that the correlation between those guys was really important. The camaraderie was really important. I Obviously talked to Coach Beck about it before making that call. But the fact that Coach Beck decided to come be our coordinator allowed the opportunity for my brother to come back from Kentucky last year. Mike had a rookie freshman quarterback in Kentucky last year play pretty darn well, and Coach Stoops called me without me asking and sang his praises about how well he did. And he played so well because of him. And frankly, before getting let go, he was going to make him the quarterback's coach at Kentucky. And just all those things just seem to fall into place. So, yes, Mike Harline became my, my quarterback coach, which is pretty cool. It's probably the freaking awesome dude I know, but he, he catches trap metal a lot. I'm just telling you. Just how gives a crap?
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Interviewer Dave
We don't quit shrap metal regardless. Like, I just want to know is, does he have the, is, is he the, is he the biggest ball buster? Like, is he the one that is going to be able to get away with that? Or what's his personality as far as, what's the sibling relationship?
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Brian Hartline
I don't know. I let him talk about it, but I would say that. No, I mean, there's a lot of respect and he knows that. Like, he's here because I know he could be a good quarterback coach. Like, nothing to do with you being my brother. So, like, go be a great quarterback coach. And that's all, you know, all of our correlation. I would say that the ones I've worked with more before probably get away with more than that than my brother Mike, because frankly, we really haven't got a chance to work together. So he's trying to see me as a head coach. I'm trying to see him as a, as a position coach. And if he's not the best position coach in the country, oh, he's gonna know it because that's gonna be my expectation. So.
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Interviewer Dave
Right.
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Brian Hartline
It's good though. I, I hope to think it's a good, It's a good relationship, for sure.
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Interviewer Dave
I like that. All right, put you, you talked about the difficulty of, of putting the class together while you're at Ohio State. All that stuff that's going on. What you, you got a good portal class. What was, what was the difference in signing the portal class? And what, how did you put it together? Like, were you overwhelmed like crazy? And what was the, what was the priorities and how did that all unfold for you?
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Brian Hartline
Well, yeah, it was, it was crazy. I mean, you know, we had 10 or 12 guys walking in, had our own visit as they're walking out. 10 or 12 more were walking in as well. So we end up thinking about in the portal, 40 some guys, 40, 41 guys, which is a lot. It's like speed dating, for sure. And then we had 16 freshmen come in, so over 56 new guys. And frankly, I'm very happy with where we're at right now in the field. But that's another conversation as far as the portal goes. You know, I think that we try to do a really good job having tough conversations. Like, I mean, I think that, you know, you're in the portal for a reason. You're looking for your next destination and to have open conversations on, okay, so what's going to be different here for you to be successful than where you were? Like, we got to make sure you want to come to Tampa for the right reasons. Because it's really easy to come to Tampa. There's a lot of easy reasons to be here. But, like, so as much as they may want to be USF Bulls, potentially, we were interviewing them, and there was plenty of opportunities where guys were kind of wanting to come in. And one interview didn't go well. We sent them home, like, and that wasn't just Juan just saying throughout the process, all right, we're good. We appreciate it. They didn't work out. Got feedback really quick, you know, at our strength coach, myself, position coach, you know, player development didn't matter. Once it didn't go well, we were on. We had to go a different direction. And so it wasn't about the individuals that were coming to see us. We owed everything to the guys that stayed. Like, I'm trying to be explained to, like, this is not our home. This is not my home. I'm just here after about a week or two. Like, these guys have sweat and blood and cried in this locker room, on these fields. We owe it to them to put the right kind of guys in the locker room. Like, I don't want to put any dirt bags in a locker room. So we had real tough conversations. I was trying to be right by the players, by the alumni, and. And frankly, I think we were trying to find guys that were willing to sacrifice something to be here and be a USF Bull. So it wasn't easy. I think we did a good job, though, to be frank, and we're trending in the right direction.
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Interviewer Dave
I think, you know, being around you, just, like, I. I love the intensity. How do you balance the intensity with the love? You know, because obviously, yep, you need both. You know, Brian, there's not A lot of our day, go, hey, daddy told you to go dig a hole. You go dig a hole. What? Why y. What's it for? How big is it? Like, it's changed. So how do you balance the. The. The power of love and that component of it?
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Brian Hartline
I think. I'm not saying I'm an expert at that. I'm not gonna lie. That's probably the one thing I probably get better at. I think what I do try to do a good job of, and I hope that the position coaches do too. I gotta. But just explain to them where it comes from. Like, I try to tell them and make sure they understand. Like, trust me, don't worry when I'm barking at you. Worry when I stop. Because if I don't think you can do the job, I won't ask you to. But when I know you can, and I know it matters to you, and I know you want to be the best version of yourself, you. Like, that's my only standard. And like, and frankly, we have a whole team full of guys, whether they can or can't, that want to be NFL pros. So I asked them, I said, listen, you guys, tell me, like, do you want me to hold you to a. A rookie pro mentality, a standard? Like, if. Coach, if I don't do it well enough, I can't be a pro, or do you want me to hold you to a standard of, like, I don't know, be a good college player? Like, is that your. I mean, you tell me the standard. Because in my mind, I. I'm a big pro fan and, like, I just want you to know how far you are away from being a pro. Like, that's what it's all about. Because if you can be a pro, you'll be a good college player. And so I. I just make sure that they understand the standard at which we're trying to hold them to, but I try to allow them to pick it. Like, I don't want. I don't want to love. I don't want to love it more than you do. So you tell me the standards you want, and then we'll let it rip. But I think, like, you're saying it's just finding time to connect, like, after practice, make sure they know where it comes from, or, like, and just finding that very, you know, human interactions at the cold tunks, at the cold tanks, you know, after practice or in the hallway, or them seeing your family at practice and you talking to your family, introducing them to your family, there's more to it. Than between the lines. But you got to be cognizant of it. And I think we're doing a decent job, but I could always do better. I promise you that.
- [28:34]
Interviewer Dave
How much. How much can be learn from. From this Sunday, like, and what have you learned so far in spring ball with. With your guys?
- [28:43]
Brian Hartline
You know, I don't think a ton can be learned. I think there is a better stage and there is a pressure that we want to try to push on these guys and just see how they react. A good learning experience. But we are very cognitive of what we're putting on film. I'm sure there'll be people here trying to watch us, like just the reality of it, of college football. So we'll be very smart with all that, you know, try to do the best job we can of just really focusing on fundamentals and technique and not allowing a scheme to, like, seep in. And we're trying to out scheme each other or, you know, out stun each other inside.
- [29:15]
Interviewer Dave
All you're gonna do is piss off OC and dc. Like, seriously, what are we doing?
- [29:19]
Brian Hartline
Who can do a great job with their hands, who can get disengaged, who can make a tackle? Like, that's what we want to see. And I think that's really important. So you'll see a lot of day one, day two stuff, but if you're screwing up day one two stuff, that's pretty telling. So there's. There's always somewhere to learn, but outside of that, that's kind of. It's kind of where we lie.
- [29:37]
Interviewer Dave
All right, Coach, this is the most hard hitting question yet. This is going to be tough. What. What are we going to add to the sleeve of tats? What's. What's our. What's our next ad? Show that puppy.
- [29:48]
Brian Hartline
No, there's no ad. It's full.
- [29:50]
Interviewer Dave
It's full. Okay.
- [29:51]
Brian Hartline
It's right here. So there is a conversation on my chest, but that's it.
- [29:57]
Interviewer Dave
That's it.
- [29:57]
Brian Hartline
I'm not gonna lie. Hold on.
- [29:59]
Interviewer Dave
You got another arm, coach?
- [30:00]
Brian Hartline
I know, I know. And I have always wanted one for the longest time. Such. It's so embarrassing. But, like, I played sports and I was playing the NFL and I wouldn't do it because I was so worried about what people thought. And after football and how I was judged, then I got to the point where I'm like, you know what? I'm old enough now. I don't give a crap. Like, I'm getting it done. So, I mean, I did it like a year ago, two years ago, and it's amazing how my mindset changed, but that's one.
- [30:24]
Interviewer Dave
Which one's your favorite?
- [30:25]
Brian Hartline
I'm tapping out. What's that?
- [30:26]
Interviewer Dave
Which one's your favorite?
- [30:27]
Brian Hartline
Well, they all have purpose, so it's hard to say. My favorite. So my wife's down here. Our anniversary's here. She's there. My kids got their own doves, you know, my, My. The house we built in Ohio has our compass and our address on it. Oh, that's dope, Brian. Jack Heartline. That's why it's the Jack of hearts. And my dad. My grandpa's name was Jack, so they all have reason. I do like watches. That was. That was it, you know, and nice, you know, guardian angel down here, you know, trying to take care of business. So all purposeful, but that's it. I'm tapping out.
- [31:04]
Interviewer Dave
Tapping out. All right, well, Coach, I think it's really cool, and I think people that are going to watch this, they're going to be like, yep, I'll run through a wall for that dude. Like, just. Just your.
- [31:15]
Brian Hartline
Your.
- [31:15]
Interviewer Dave
Your passion, your energy, your standard that you're going to hold guys to, man. It's. It's fun to watch. Fun to watch. You start your journey. You've had a lot of opportunities, and that weather is going to be beautiful. En. Enjoy the sun. Hey, it's going to be Africa. Hot and humid in a couple of weeks, too. And you're going to be like, what the heck is this? Mind you, the Miami days, as coaches,
- [31:36]
Brian Hartline
like, we literally hold their, like, careers and lives in our hands. And that's what I always think about, like, these. These gentlemen have a window from 18 to 22, 23 years old to, like, accomplish a life goal. And that's it, Dave, as you know, like, that's it. Like, you can make money and go to school and do things forever, your whole entire life, but play football, this is all you got, man. So if you don't bring it every day as a coach or you don't pour in every day, like, I don't know why you're involved, because I was around a lot of coaches, and maybe that was the case. They didn't really pour into me as much as I wanted. Got around a couple great ones. It changed my life. So we should be just passing the four with these guys and doing the same thing, man, so.
- [32:15]
Interviewer Dave
Well, pass it forward. Coach, we appreciate you joining us, man. Thank you very much. Appreciate you, brother.
- [32:21]
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