
CFB Week 13 INSTANT REACTION | USC-Oregon, Pitt-Georgia Tech, Utah-Kansas State and MORE 0:00 USC-Oregon 10:47 Pitt-Georgia Tech 19:19 Syracuse-Notre Dame 20:53 Kansas State-Utah 23:16 BYU-Cincinnati 26:51 Missouri-Oklahoma 34:44 Arkanas-Texas 35:57 Kentucky-Vanderbilt, Diego Pavia 39:07 Miami-VirginiaTech 43:07 Dan Lanning Comment / Big Ten vs. SEC Schedules 49:14 Alabama-Auburn
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Get Ball. College football's top show for football analysis, predictions and coaching interviews.
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Now here's your host, three time all.
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American, seven time Emmy award winner. What up dudes? Welcome on in the recap on Saturday. Man, we do it every week and it's cool because we just watch the games and we give you everything that happened today. So if you didn't get to watch something, we'll kind of keep you posted. The first big game that we can start with was USC in Oregon. And I think we knew in this game like obviously we knew the backdrop of the, of the pack 12 days and this being a rivalry but we knew USC was going to have to play really, really well and they were going to have to find some extra plays and do something a little bit special to to beat Oregon and they did the exact opposite. Like very, very frustrating watching you watching USC just alone in the first half and it was, it was a competitive game in the house in the first half. First half for Special teams purposes for usc. Kick off, out of bounds, kick catch interference, gave up a punt return, touchdown, leaped over a guy on the field goal block, which was third and long. You gave him an automatic free first down. They missed the field goal, but you gave him a personal foul. They ended up getting a touchdown. And you don't feel goal off the upright. So like, you need things to go your way and you need to. You need to win the margins and win special teams and win penalties. And that's something that USC consistently doesn't do. The stupid penalties. My, like, what was Lane doing going over to the sidelines? Like, what are we doing to go get a ball? We're going to get the ball. Like shot themselves in the foot with penalties. And we, and we could keep going over and over with the penalties, man. I mean, it was. There was enough of them to go around. I mean, it was just dumb. There was so many mistakes and so much lack of discipline. You saw special teams rear its ugly head before they gave up a kick return to. To Notre Dame in a big game and another big loss. So I just. Usc and listen, give credit to Oregon. Like, let's give credit to Oregon and who they are and what they are in Oregon's. They got some issues that we're going to have to get solved. Because if you look at Oregon, man, the offensive line is beat to crap, the receiving core is beat to crap, but they just continue to line up. They rush for over 200 yards against USC. They didn't really need a lot of balance. They were just. They're the more physical team. It reminded me of Texas and Georgia from a week ago. Like, one team lives in that element, lives tough practices. That way, their coach demands it. That way, it's that way all the time. That's how you get it. And one team that doesn't and that made mistakes that shot themselves in the foot. But when you watch Oregon's defense, they fly around. They absolutely destroy people. It's incredible to watch them. They're not the most talented. D. They gave up a bunch of plays, a bunch of plays deep. And I know Lane and. And Lemon are going to make those plays. Like, that's, that's not abnormal. They're really, really good. But how about this freshman, Nook Hines? Like, just. He was making plays. I had to look him up. I was like, who is this cat? I mean, he was making plays down the field. Oregon, I was kind of worried about their defense. They were drawing. They were getting a bunch of pass interferences. But then they Did a really, really good job of protecting the deep ball, not giving as many one on one situations a lot more help over the top, playing physical, playing through hands. And you know, Brent, we've talked a lot about their backs like Oregon's backs. Does anybody's backs run harder in the country? Like I literally wrote that down. Watching them run like they great point. They run with some piss and vinegar. Like they, they freaking come like, dude, they come downhill. Like they're always falling forward. Like the number one thing, if you guys watch a pile on defense, like there's a. There's so much, you grab the pile. And the big thing about defense is tackle back, tackle back, tackle back. Like that's your whole, that's your whole philosophy not to let guys get yardage. But my gosh, every single time, man, whoever it is. And they rotate a shoot, ton of them, but they run angry and they fall forward and they keep themselves in better situations because of it.
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Well, the cool part about it is the contrast, contrasting styles. So you have hill, that's the speedster, 23, and then Davison the fret, the other freshman that is just the big physical, really good cuts, all that. And then Whittington, who's small but runs like he's 6 foot 210.
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Yeah.
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So it's a combination of, of all that. And this was one of those games where you look up and you're like, okay, this shouldn't be a one score game in the fourth quarter. But it was. And a big time credit to Oregon because of all the injuries that you talked about. Center, top three, wide receiver, top three.
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Wide receivers are out. But yeah, you're right, the offensive line is a big deal now.
Host 2
But then what did they do in the last, the last, the sort of finishing drive, throw all that. So I have a point about Sadiq because he. When you think about teams that can win the whole thing, I still think Oregon is a team that can win the whole thing because of all the people that potentially are healthy round one and then if you get a lot of that back and you're healthy and ready to go round one with your squad, they to me have as much talent as anyone and Sadiq is a different animal.
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And how many, how many positions could he play and be, be an all American? Like there's not very many positions on the field that he could not play. Like that's a superhuman freakazoid. Like they just don't, they don't make humans. They don't make many humans like that. I mean, that dude is just.
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The NFL's going to screw up and let the Chiefs somehow draft him and he's just going to take over for. For Kelsey. But what's a blessing in disguise, though? If you're Oregon fan, you're like, okay, hey, we've got to this point and you got one more week like Washington. Washington is not going to be any sort of thing. I don't know if even can they survive a loss to Washington, beat 10 and 2 and still get in. I don't know. Who knows. But the blessing in disguise with the receiver injuries is that you've had to force feed Sadiq and you've had to use him in wide receiver roles and. And force feed him targets. And granted he's getting healthy, but still him being the focal point of their offense. 14 catches, 168 and three touchdowns in the last two weeks. That's a good thing for them because he's kind of. It was hit and miss with him early in the season. He's more like blocking and you know, they're trying to get everybody else involved, but when he's the focal point, that. That makes them very scary.
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I think that's a good thing. When you. Yeah. Near the goal line. They isolated him on safeties. He wins. Like, it's pretty. It's pretty simple. I don't. I don't know. I. Dante misses too many. There's too many miscommunications with receivers and that might be because they're not healthy, but like too much of the short stuff that, that they missed, which I didn't like today. I didn't love what I saw from their offense. But you know what? One team had really good balance and one team didn't. USC could not run the ball at all. They run the ball really well and all. And I love what Oregon did. Now listen, Tui Odie is really good and he's over the place. Yeah, 44 is an animal. But. But they did a really good job. Like guy. Now USC tries to hide their back and move them around, but they did a really good job of putting 4, 4 towards the back as much as possible. And just chase. Like when that tackle pulls, go chase him down. Make my alpha pull the football and run the ball. And he did some. If I was usc, I would have done it more to create more balance running backs in this game. And USC has one of the most balanced offenses in all of college football. All of college football, period. Running back, longest carry of the day was six yards. Six yards. And Dan Lanning and Oregon eat, sleep, breathe, live that life, live that world.
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When that's Lincoln, I think they can win.
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Lincoln Riley. Yeah, but I'm not ready to go there yet because I think their defense, I think their defense is really good. I think out wide they gave up a bunch of plays today. They dialed it in but they gave up a bunch of plays. I don't know that they'll consistently win on the edge at corner. I don't know. I don't know. Across the board, like who's the, who's the guys for Oregon that it's going to take over a game defensively? Like I think 44 is an animal. Who we talked about like he, he's a really good player. C ball get ball. Like that dude's the pro epitome of a C ball get ball. Like epitome of it. But like, yeah, like, but there's.
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But he doesn't think he's really good. I don't know that he's.
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I think there's enough greatness. Like Arvel Reese downs. Like we've got multiple guys. Like Georgia's defense, you're going to have. Well, C.J. allen's got to get healthy. But like Georgia's defense, A and M's got pass rushers that like how's going to impact the game, going to change it. Indiana's got guys that in the, in the front and in the back, the ponds in the back specifically. And our boy up front, Kamara, like they're going to impact the game. I don't know, man. I don't know if there's enough greatness. But I love what they did today. They out toughed usc. I don't know if they can be as one dimensional against a lot of teams. I just don't know if that's going to happen.
Host 2
But they got the dub and that to me they're going to play off.
Host 1
Because they're going to smack. They're going to. They're going to line up and pal drive Washington. Like they'll be able to line up and hammer Washington. Did you think it was interesting. Gary Danielson in the broadcast said, talked about. Dante Moore was like coach said he really. He doesn't like to get hit. I heard that and I was like, I was like, I wouldn't tell anybody.
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That first of all.
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But he does. But he's obviously a flatliner. But. But I didn't love hearing that because I got to run him. Like he's going to have to run some down the stretch to help to.
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Help this offense, but that's basically Big Ten. You're getting three. Yeah, unless. Unless Michigan beats Ohio State. You're getting Carl.
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Now let's get to the ACC because we can spin the wheel of destiny. Because who the freak knows week in, week, week out. And Pittsburgh, man, I tell you what Narduzzi talked about. We can lose by 100 to Notre Dame and all we got to do is be ready for Georgia Tech. They were frigging ready for Georgia Tech. So maybe we had it wrong. Maybe Narduzzi was right, like, because they came out and they were spitting nails, man. Like, I love the way Pittsburgh played to start this football game. Like they were flying around. They get up big. 28 to nothing now. Their energy, their, their. They were playing with swag. 28 to nothing. This game is about to be over really, really quickly. About to go into, like, close to going into the half. They stop them on third down. They get a personal foul call for taunting. Georgia Tech gets a first down. They go down the field, they score, they get a stop, they close it to 14 and we're like, holy cow, this might be a game. And Georgia Tech was, was way too nonchalant. They. They did not look like themselves. Haynes, King, the offense really, really struggled out the gates. They had a turnover, which they don't do a lot of. And, and Heinzhul continues to just play really well, like Heinzhu for Pittsburgh. Like them making that decision and going there gives them a chance obviously to be very much alive now in the ACC race, which again is going to be amazing because you got now that Pittsburgh beat Georgia Tech, I think Georgia Tech's basically out. Smu. If, if they win and Pittsburgh loses next week and Virginia loses, they're in. SMU had a heck of a day. We can touch them quickly a little bit later. But this game got super competitive. It got closer and closer. The hundred yard pick from Loveless, like, that was the game, man. Like Tech about to score another mistake. Like it was. It was a big time deal, right? Like Haynes threw it at the goal line, got rid of the football too quick. You know, maybe Georgia Tech was looking ahead a little bit, but that was, that was a, that was a big difference to give Pittsburgh momentum again. Now listen, Pittsburgh tried their best to. To run a fake punt late in the football game, get them back in it. But Georgia Tech, man, the defense started the start of the day awful. Have had so many awful days the past couple of weeks haven't looked the part. The offense has. Offense put them in a few bad spots. Defense, Defense help. Pittsburgh in the second half to 27 yards. 27. Like, they really locked it in. Got more aggressive, got more pressure, got him back in it 27 yards of offense going into the last drive, a four minute drill. And they did exactly what they needed to do, man. Ate up some clock, but trusted their young buck QB in a big spot to throw it on first down and get a completion to throw it on third down with like now two minutes and change left in the game. And then Boozy Turner goes the distance, kicks it in gear, takes it to the house. How about that young buck, man, number 25, man, like looking, looking like a baller too. He's a freshman as well. But Narduzzi, man, like just year after year, like really, really good football coach. Consistently gets his guys up to play, you know. Brent, what'd you think about Tech though, man? Like I, I didn't obviously coming out like they did, you know, Georgia game next week is, is a big look ahead and that's something they were probably focused on. But Brent Key was about to lose his mind. They were just. Heinzel was doing whatever the freak he wanted to do early, man.
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Well, have you ever heard of Murphy's Law? Yeah, whatever can go wrong will go wrong. Yep, it did. And I do think that you could tell that Haynes King was pressing in this game. I think he knew what it meant. You could just. I mean, granted his face looks that way all the time, so it's not like his facial expressions change a lot, but you could just see that like the, the pick, the early pick that he had was probably one of the worst decisions he's had since he's been a Tech.
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And he does very few of those. That's not, that's not a normal thing. Like, yeah, you, you go to his games and you're like, when is this dude going to do something stupid? Like you literally can go game after game after game and you find Court. I'm watching Bear Bachmeier and I'm like, that was stupid. That was stupid. Like, what do we do? Why are we throwing that pass? Haynes King very rarely does that. So maybe that's the right word for you. Like maybe they were pressing because. And then he throws the pick six, obviously, which is the dagger. That thing.
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Yeah, that was pressure.
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Yeah.
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He was about to get hit and they, you know, sim pressure, drop back, that sort of thing. I will say I. At a certain point in the game, I was looking up how much Pit was ahead of Louisville and still kept beat 17 0. So that's, that's. I was visions of that in the head, but I. The fake punt was bizarre, wasn't it? Like 4th and 8. 4th.
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It was 4th and 7ish. Yeah, it was at least 7ish. It's one thing on 4th and 3 now. Penn State did it against, against Nebraska and it was fantastic. And it, because it worked. When it works, it's absolutely great. But it was a big time Penn State man, like, good rally. Terry Smith doing a good job getting them together. It means something to him. And the coach that decided to stay at, at Nebraska gets get stomped by Penn State. So it was an interesting way to finish because everybody wanted him for a little while.
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But like one of the things with Tech that you know and that you can see is like, it's a struggle defensively for them. It's such a struggle. And they had to just say, all right, screw it, we're bringing the house almost all the time. And they, and they got to them. And you might see that next week against Georgia as well. But I don't think they play as bad in the beginning against Georgia as they did in this game. That's for darn sure. It's just they have, they've had their number too much, especially early in these games to look that bad against Georgia. But what stinks for them is that they are obviously Dunsky in the ACC.
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For the playoff.
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Yes.
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So.
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But they can, they can just be something.
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Still a great season for Georgia Tech. And nothing would make Brent Key and company happier than beating Georgia. Doesn't matter. Like, nothing. You want to salvage this. They're probably upset. They're going to be, they're going to be upset this week. But like, the rally cry is, no, no, no, no. We hate them, we play them, we don't like them. They're not our friends. They think they're better than you go out there and stomp their face in. Like, everybody talks about Georgia. They don't talk about you. Like, we're going out there for blood and this time we're going to finish. Like, we're going to get them down and we're going to finish them.
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Personally, I was a little, it did stink a little bit because one, when we did our preseason predictions, I did have Georgia Tech in the AC Championship game. So I was like, oh, I was hoping to get at least one right because we both put Clemson there. So over two in that, in that regard. But two, I have so many great screenshots from the dog vent@ugasports.com of the responses when I said in July that, hey, there's a world where Pitt or where Georgia Tech is 10 and one going into the Georgia game. The, hey, this Is the world then that exists. And it's a lot of funny stuff that I was, I was ready to throw out there, but I don't get a chance to now.
Host 1
Yeah, well, it was, it was still close and listen, it was because of the schedule. Like we looked at their schedule. That was the main reason we, yeah, we didn't, we didn't think Georgia Tech was going to be a juggernaut. We thought their schedule was going to lend them to being in a position where they have a chance to play for the acc. And they did. They had a chance.
Host 2
I do think your point in the beginning though was the best. It looked like they practiced for three weeks for Georgia Tech, not anybody else, which is fantastic.
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Hey, that's lose by 100 to Notre Dame. Syracuse knows that feeling too. By the way. Syracuse and Fran Brown, there's not much to talk about with that game. I mean actually you know what, we'll hit that real quick. We're supposed to be hitting something else. But how about Notre Dame had 21 points, Brent, before they snapped an offensive play. Yep, 21 points. Like Notre Dame absolutely came out and boat raced them like that was. There was nothing for them to do whatsoever. Love had 171 yards I think on like. And three touchdowns on like eight carries. I think it was eight or nine carries like. Yep, the Irish. And it's. And it's funny because I feel like Notre Dame obviously doing this at the same time people are going to hate because the Miami game, they're not in a conference. They can't play for a championship and Notre Dame is going to do what they do did last year and what they're going to do in the future hold my beer business because I ain't got to worry about none of that stuff. Like I don't care. All I got to do is have they beaten a bunch of great teams. No, they haven't. They have not. But like don't act like Miami killed them. Don't act like Texas A and M killed them. Really, really close football games. But I think Notre Dame, they win.
Host 2
The whole thing 100%. Yes. I think.
Host 1
Yeah, it's been, it's been fun to. It's been fun to watch them continue to grow. But they slapped absolutely slap Syracuse. That was a, that was a. No doubt about it. Early 70 to 7 70.
Host 2
I think that's all is the second most points all time maybe at Notre Dame Stadium. It was only there was like a game in the 30s against a place I'd never heard of that was number one 73. So, yeah.
Host 1
So I wish we could go, I wish we could go longer into some of these details about scoring on defense, special, whatever, all, all the things. But it was, it was ugly. There's not much to talk about. Speaking of another ugly game, by the way, this game. Listen, I'm going to say this and this is going to sound like. This is. I don't know how it's going to sound like to me like that was. You got to win ugly sometimes. And Utah won 51 to 47. Agree. Everybody has their ugly moments, their ugly games. That wasn't ugly. That was grotesque. That was pathetic. That was. Dude. Kansas State's never rushed in the history of their school for more yards. That was as easy as it gets. Kansas State's a bad football team. I love Kansas State. I love what they've done in the past. They're a really bad football team. And the fact that they just lined up and shoved it down your throat. They couldn't create offensive explosive plays at any rate coming to this game. And they rushed for 476. Like Joe Jackson had like 237 at the, at the half. Like first quarter they had 200. I mean like, listen, I know you're lighting up the U at your campus. Utah up on the hill and it's beautiful, it's, it's awesome. And a win is a win and you stay in the hunt. But if the playoff committee is going to tell me Alabama struggling to rush the football and why we're putting there, then I want to put, I want to hear that from Utah this week. That Utah couldn't stop a nosebleed and they couldn't stop a horrible Kansas State team like that to me doesn't look like a playoff team if they don't play for a championship, which they're not going to in the Big 12 more than likely if they don't, they're, they're, they don't look like a playoff team to me. I can't, I can't get behind it that they scored on offense. They were explosive. Shoot, I think Bird Fickens fickling. Sometimes when he comes in, I'm like, man, I want to see him more because he's just, he's such a good athlete and I feel like he's one of the better athletes on the field and he should be in there more. And they were down a couple of scores and somehow pieced it together and they get a, they get an interception on a, on a two point conversion which was PI. And they run it all the way back and they cut it to 10 and it was just. There's a lot of things that down the stretch broke. Broke Utah's way and they won the game. But this doesn't look like a. This doesn't look like a playoff team to me. I'm sorry. I love BYU fans. I love how tough you guys are. I love everything about Kyle Whittingham. But like, I don't know, Brent, maybe you're. Maybe you feel differently, but I didn't see that. That doesn't look like a playoff team to me. It just doesn't. So I don't know where they're going to be ranked, but wherever they were, like, I would consider moving them down significantly. If we're watching this from week to week.
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I, I have no, no problems with.
Host 1
That because they ain't beat anybody anyways. There's. We've been pointing to this for weeks. There's nobody on the schedule that we're bragging about who they beat regardless.
Host 2
Do you know they have a high.
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Number in though, game control metric.
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Game control, which just got.
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Which just got went the other way. Right. Like.
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Because that's what, that's what's going to be interesting to see is because of. Mainly Vanderbilt, actually. Because of what Vandy did today.
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Bro.
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Because Miami was kind of. I mean, they had control of that game for the most part. But I'm just looking thinking of the teams around him where that.
Host 1
It's not, it's not. It's not game control for Vandy. For me, it's what. And we've mentioned this a couple times on the show. It's what Pavia is doing. Like. And we'll get to that in a minute. Like.
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Yes.
Host 1
But questions about you teams. We're looking at those. Go ahead.
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Did you. The fourth down play where they called the too many men on the field after the whole substitution issue and they. I didn't get it.
Host 1
I didn't. Kind of.
Host 2
Because I thought they were going to let him get off the field.
Host 1
I thought that's what you're supposed to do. But it's almost like, wait a minute. At this point in the game, Utah needs to go fast, which they sucked at going fast too because they were going slow. Like, like that's, that's why the whole operation for me, defensively, making tackles, offensively, they made plays and. But it just, it just. Yeah, like, we'll have more takes on that later. But like, I just, I don't. I don't Know, man, like, I don't, I don't see any way how that that happens. Like, I don't see how that's something. No, I don't. I just don't.
Host 2
I don't look at them as a playoff team either. I don't had a great season. It's had a phenomenal season. Is likely going to be. I forget who they have next week, but likely going to be 10 and.
Host 1
2 and listen, and this is someone coming from someone too that wants to be right in the preseason. Like, I had him in the playoff discussion. Like, yeah, this is the team I had right there. Like, it's, it's not that I want to. I don't want to be right. I'm just telling you what I'm seeing from this team, especially Daily's out now. It looks like that that was a significant injury. Like, he's the one who gets to the quarterback. You know, he's. He and, and Spencer Fano. He got it hurt.
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Yes.
Host 1
Like their best two, their best player on offense and defense probably are hurt now. I don't know the seriousness and we'll figure that out. But like, I don't know, Uninspiring, ugly, whatever, whatever.
Host 2
I thought Kansas City was going to hold on still. And also they don't win the game without the whole two point getting two points.
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Yes.
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That was amazing.
Host 1
How about Kansas State this year? Like, we, we should do a segment on the ways they've learned they've lost this year. Because like, I tweeted it, Brent, I said, siri, show me how to lose a football game in a bunch of different ways. And what came up was Kansas State and Auburn. That's what came up.
Host 2
So they're the least in the clubhouse for that one.
Host 1
My phone literally right next to me picked up when I said, siri. Shut up, Siri. All right, next, let's go somewhere else. Let's go to Norman, Oklahoma. You know, I. If you're looking at Oklahoma, there's a lot of things to like about Oklahoma. Oklahoma, obviously they have to win to get in there. They're guaranteed to win if they take care of Missouri and they take care of lsu. Oklahoma's in this thing. Like, they're going to go to the College Football Playoff. And I think we're all waiting to find that offensive breakout in that moment that you go, oh, I'm back buying into it. And you had about three or four plays this game to choose from, but that was about it. Like 17 to 6 over Missouri. They get the dough.
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You're just gonna say two plays.
Host 1
Yeah. I mean, realistically, there wasn't many. Like, they're winning with old school football with great defense and timely offense, a good kicking game. Like, it's. It's kind of weird. It's kind of old school football. But like, you've got to be. You've got to be impressed. I was most impressed today with, with Oklahoma's defense. Like they held hardy to zero yards in the second half. Zero rush yards. Like, that's, That's a big tough animal. And he got off early and he had some good. I thought. I thought it was perfect. Missouri. It was a great start for Missouri because Missouri comes out, owns the clock, takes half the first quarter, gets three, goes up three to nothing. Defense. We know what Missouri's defense is going to do, but I. Brent, I've known you for long enough. I know. I don't even. Let me tell my stuff because I know exactly where Brent Rollins is going to go here. But Missouri's defense continues to play good enough to be in every single game. Like, Missouri lost by three to Bama, by seven to Vandy. They got. The only thing they got beat bad by was A and M. And then they lost by 11 today to. Oh, you like. Missouri doesn't have a lot of great wins. They've got that quality loss thing going on. They've been competitive every game. Their defense is super good. Prabula comes back, he was actually moving better than I thought he would. I was like, dang. Because this is the dude that the cart came out for, you know, several weeks ago. But. But the offense continues to be a hot mess. And Brent, here's where I thought you would jump in three nothing, stop, go down the field, fourth and three, field goal unit. Field goal unit sucks. Like, it's ungood. Like, can the first one he hit, but it was. Look, it looked like me hitting a driver where I hit it off the heel and it somehow went in the fairway. It was.
Host 2
I was going to ask you about that. I literally wrote that note. Do you do that with your golf shot? Frequently, what the kicker did on the first one.
Host 1
That's hilarious. Yes. Like, so it was a 39 yard field goal and homeboy looked like he tried to miss it. He had about 6 yards extra. Like it was not good. It was very ungood. And they go to kick it again. The kick gets blocked. But like, drink. We've seen this movie, man. Like, drink. I've seen your offense. I've seen Prabula with it. I've seen Sours with it. It doesn't matter. It's not great. So when we got opportunities, we got to score. Like, we can't. Fourth and three is a green zone. Like, Mr. Analytics, I figured you would love this. Like, I don't care what the analytics says. Even though I think they'll say go for it. Like, Oklahoma's offense ain't great. But I do know kicking threes is not that good. And if we're not kicking threes, if we're kicking threes, we're going to lose at some point because they can make some big plays. But I'm like broski, I just didn't love it because again, they're in every game. There's always opportunities. But you got fourth and short twice and you're kicking games, man, and you go for it. I just don't, I don't get it. I would have chosen to be more aggressive. Yes, but Missouri, Missouri's, they've been in every game. And I'm sure you're frustrated as a fan. Like, surely we're going to get one of these at some point.
Host 2
Well, and then you had the late opportunity where it's like, okay, maybe we can get within a, you know, whatever field goal, whatever. And Coleman had the fourth down kind of drop maybe a little bit off.
Host 1
Either way, he should have caught that. He would make that guy.
Host 2
He's like, he would say he should make that catch.
Host 1
And Reala threw a great one down the sideline to him to get him down there, which I even thought he could have stayed in bounds if he contorted his body a little bit. But. But that's another thing too. I love drinks. I love drink, which in his program. But like I'll say this the play calling and I know we want to run to a certain side with Hardy and I know that's our thing in stretch play. But I think they could be a little bit more creative. Like I think they need to be a little bit more creative than. Because they're not. Just because. Because here's what Oklahoma did. Like, Oklahoma's getting gashed a little bit. Oklahoma sent a linebacker every single time as a run through player. So now you gotta block the front. And now that linebacker's coming right through and that ball is gonna have to cut up. We're not letting you play this pick a hole game. We're not letting you play. We're not letting you get Hamarty and hit or Hardy and his arson legs downhill. Because when his arson legs get moving with his speed and his power like bad Shiznik's gonna happen for you. And the fact that you stop some of that stuff. And Heinecke's a baller, man. He keeps just tackling everybody. He's fun to watch. But Oklahoma just continuing. One more thing. What you got?
Host 2
You got one more. Gotta go get one more. Find a way to get one more against lsu and you're in the College Football Playoff and likely hosting.
Host 1
Yeah, think about, think about their resume and when they start getting compared to other folks. They're the only team in college football with four wins against currently ranked teams. Like right now, they're the only one. Missouri. Now they'll probably be unranked. Bama, Tennessee and Michigan, no currently ranked teams as of this week.
Host 2
Bama had four, too.
Host 1
I think Bama's got three as of this. As of this week. Let's see if they got Missouri, they got Georgia, they got Tennessee and they got Vandy. So they're four. Two. There's two. There's two teams with four. Oklahoma and them. And it's those. Those are great. Those are great things. Those are great recipes. And now you also have the material factor with his hand. Whether you like it or not, it's a part of it. But the way they're playing defensively is good. But you got three freshmen on that offensive line and they're going to have to figure something out, man. Like, they've got to. They've got to figure something out because there's too many good teams. There's too many good teams out there that you can play great D and try to win a playoff. Now listen, Boomer, Sooner, don't be be a about the playoffs. Like making the playoffs with that schedule. Like, gosh dang, bro, like last year, the wagon tipped over on the way onto the field like it did several years ago. This year, man, you should be jacked up with everything of what's going on. So still a great season for ou, but it was, it was also in the past. Some things to do.
Host 2
They find a way to lose that game in the past, potentially. Like where they just let the team hang around. They screw up. But right now, the way they're at least controlling the ball and not turning it over, letting their defense do their thing, they'll be just fine. I think they're going to be in the playoffs.
Host 1
Yeah, I think they are too. Because LSU is kind of like some other teams that are. Penn State didn't, though. Kudos to Penn State. Kudos to Terry Smith. Keeping those boys together. Had a good day. And I think Katron became the all time leading rusher in Penn State history tonight too. So good for him for yeah, all in history. That's not bad, Carl.
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Host 2
There's some names on that list too.
Host 1
There's some really good names on that list. All right, what do we want to go to next? Like listen, Texas, there's not, there's not a lot of meat left on this bone tonight, boys, boys and girls. Because it's not the greatest of slates. I think you all know that. But like Texas gave up 37 to Arkansas. Arch Manning looked like the Heisman Trophy winner that y' all we talked about before the season. So that, that was a 52 to 37 game. But Texas's defense, like slowly, like the start of the year, man, they were number one and stuff because we were like, their defense is going to be elite week in and week out. And that defense has been leaky now week in and week out. Like that's. Honestly, I didn't think Arch was going to win a Heisman. I didn't think he was that, that level good. But I thought he'd be really good. But I thought the defense would be elite and that defense is not.
Host 2
Just think of, just think of Arkansas had like a semi competent defense.
Host 1
Yeah, Arkansas, they would have won a.
Host 2
Lot of football games because I don't.
Host 1
Know if y' all know this people that don't know much about Arkansas but like that's where Walmart's at. Like there's some big companies there. Yes. Like there's some big companies that are there and that, that they can get some, they can get some serious cash flow pumping into that. They got Calipari a couple years ago. Like I'll be interested to see what that hire looks like. Hey, one team that you better go ahead and start putting on your radar when we start. Like if you're going to, if you're going to compare me now because I just watched Utah and you're going to prepare Utah and Vandy. There's no comparison, like there's no comparison to me. Like Vanderbilt slapped Kentucky around. This offense is absolutely stupid. Like this offense, I was the first we did a Heisman Trophy list like week nine. Pavi was not on it for me because his numbers were not great. The passing game was not great. He's back on this sucker. Like he is going like this to another level. Tennessee still on the docket to end the season a ranked possibility to win to end the year. To make another statement. You just saw Utah stinker. You know that you got a chance. Just think about these numbers. First of all Vanderbilt, nine wins in the regular season for the first time since 1915. 1915. Here is Diego Pavia's numbers the last three games. Okay, Brent, the last three outings, Texas threw for 365, rushed for 43, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Auburn threw for 377, rushed for 112, four touchdowns. Another bagel, another donut in the interception columns. Kentucky, pretty physical unit. You know what? Screw running it. She's going to throw it through it for four. 48 and then 48 rush, six touchdowns total and one pick.
Host 2
469.
Host 1
I mean, just, just 484.
Host 2
Actually.
Host 1
484 today.
Host 2
Yeah. Get the numbers flipped around.
Host 1
How, how ridiculous is that? Like, that is insane. And this offense was already physical. It was already good. It already gave you option in 65 different ways. The passing game was solid, but it wasn't good. It wasn't really good. Now it's really good. Like it's, it's going like this at.
Host 2
The right time and it wasn't just hours. Like it was six today. Yeah, with the deep ball and he puts a couple deep balls right, right in the bucket.
Host 1
Right in the bucket.
Host 2
And, and their defense, like we talked about, you know, we'd mentioned in the preview, like, hey, defense has been struggling. They've been leaking, had a bye week. They look like a completely different unit.
Host 1
Well, they played Kentucky.
Host 2
They've been playing well, though. Well, offensive.
Host 1
Yeah, you, you told me that, remember? You gave me those awesome numbers. I'm like, they played two booger eaters.
Host 2
But still they played well. They hadn't played well.
Host 1
They played well.
Host 2
They only gave up three points or no, 17 late, but basically I got you.
Host 1
But I'm just saying, I think, I think Vanderbilt's in a position right there to go maybe earn themselves a playoff spot. Like I think, I think, I think there's a lot of things that we're still gonna have to discuss because I'm interested to see what the freak's gonna happen with Miami. Like it was. Miami won today. If you're not watching. For those of you that don't watch college football, I'm going to say this again, and I've said this several times throughout the year and I don't want to be a broken record. Malachi, Tony is one of the best players in all of college football. Like, just watch this dude because now he's Wildcat, he's Jet Sweep, he's Reverse. Now they're starting to use his arm throwing the football because he played quarterback in high school. And just like Mario Cristobal told us on this channel, like, he's a great throw of the football, won a state championship when he switched. Like, he's the ultimate. He's the most. He is the most versatile piece in all of college football. There is none more versatile than him. He ain't big. He's competitive, he's tough. He blocks like Malachi Toney is one of the best players in college football. I know Miami is. Hasn't been doing this as much. And listen, today was kind of lackluster. It was okay. Like, Carson played well, Malachi played well and did a little bit of everything. The defense gave up too many big plays. They got run on. They got run on a lot. A lot of big plays in the running game. Missed tackles, struggles setting the edge. And they've got a couple of injuries now, too, which are not good for them.
Host 2
I saw April, the guy who'd gotten some interceptions recently, got hurt. Was that bad?
Host 1
Yeah, it looked like. It looked like a shoulder. Like he was. He was like very much. Yeah, it was. Thomas and Scott both got hurt, but their run D was leaky. Missing.
Host 2
What do you think of that last touchdown?
Host 1
That was. That's called the committee's watching slot fade to Malachi with what, 20 with nubs.
Host 2
I would probably counter with. That's called the committee's not watching.
Host 1
Correct. Miami basically had a chance to run the clock out or take a shot and put up some numbers because guess what? The committee talks about numbers and talks about run defense. So I don't care if you do it. Hey, I got one more rant. I don't know if I want to save it for another day. Oh. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. SMU flowers.
Host 2
Like, yes, please.
Host 1
SMU deserves some flowers. They've. They've been doing this. That. That's why I thought they were going to beat Louisville like I did. I wasn't worried because they do a good job of stopping the run. Louisville's down a couple of guys. Now, listen, Miller Moss not playing obviously did not help that situation at all. But they. They beat. They beat Louisville by 30 like they. They. And Jennings continues to do this like we talked about him going into this game, like he continues to play well. I started straight game over 300. He went 29 of 37 today. Had four tuddies. Like he's. He's doing a lot of really good things at the quarterback spot. Like this offense. This offense looks really, really good. It looks really connected with Jennings, too.
Host 2
And the thing I think if you're a fan of just college football and watching football in general. So many quarterbacks nowadays, they look robotics not the word, but they all look the same because they're all going through the same drills and, you know, working how they footwork in the pocket and their arm angles. Kevin Jennings is just fun to watch because of the way he moves. Arm angles. There's. There's no throw, no touch throw, laser down the seam, shovel past td, backyard ball. Like, I enjoy watching Kevin Jennings play football.
Host 1
I'll say this. I agree with everything you said. There's also at least five throws a game that you're like, what the freak was that like? Because he. He. He is not scared to throw it over the middle, and he's not scared to do it off platform. And then that thing will float a little bit. You're like, I better get it out. Like, it's.
Host 2
It's.
Host 1
There's. There's at least three or four or five moments where you're like, yeah, that's not. That's not good. I got. I got one. I got one rant. So, America, hear me out here, okay? You know, it's really nice. Ohio State's a great team. They're a really, really good football team. They're one of the best teams in the country. They might be the best team in the country. You know what's really nice? It's really nice when some people talk about schedules a lot. Dan Lanning did today. Dan Lanning talked about schedules and who they're playing. If you want to talk about schedules, we can look, Dan Laning, right at your schedules and who you've played. It hasn't been that impressive. Like, I don't think you want to play that game. You want to talk about when they're playing right now?
Host 2
Sure.
Host 1
You know what's nice? It's a nice luxury, Dan. When Ohio State can rest their first. Their top two receivers, when they're a little bit dinged up because they play in a league where they don't have to worry about it. They don't have to worry about winning every single game. They don't have to worry about winning to survive because they don't have to worry about being tested that much. They're still a great team. Ohio State's still a great team. Dan's not wrong that sometimes the calendar lines up late in the season where SEC teams aren't playing anybody. But let's not look at your schedule and look at other schedules and say that it's comparable because it's not it's not comparable. Ohio State's a great team. It's just a nice luxury to be able to. To rest guys and sit them out because your conference schedule is, is not good and it's not tough. You can bring your C game and you can still win. So it's a nice problem to have. I want to be the person at the party that's the richest. I want to be able to buy everybody else out. I want to be able to have all those nice things. It's a good thing. Like, it's good to be that talented where you can afford to do that. But you can't do that in the sec. You can't. Like, whether you like it or not, it's the case. And so next week, obviously big week with, with Michigan coming for Ohio State, Oregon has a chance to prove themselves to get in. And we can, if we can figure all this out. But I just, I don't. I'm not with the taking shots of the schedule thing because if you're looking at your schedule, man, there's. It's pretty clear what we can look at and what we can say about it.
Host 2
Brent, I have a Ohio State question to follow up on that and very awesome rant. One point and then one question, one point. I can't stand it when Ohio state's on the four box. Like my TV. Now granted, if I had like 150 inch TV I might be able to see but like I feel like I need binoculars when Ohio State's in the four box because the way how far away the camera is angle at their, at their games. But anyway, do you think Ohio State fans have had fun this season?
Host 1
Winning's freaking fun. I mean, I think they're bored.
Host 2
That's what I mean.
Host 1
They've probably been bored. Like, you know, you know, it's interesting is like, you know, and again, I wonder how you feel because you've been all about Julian same because the numbers perspective, like how did you think he looked without Tate and. And Jeremiah Smith?
Host 2
I mean he still puts footballs in play like just accuracy levels that are beyond insane. It's pretty good in terms of ball placement. But yes, it makes a difference when those two guys are not. You look pretty not playing.
Host 1
Yeah, I just, I think that they're. I think that they're. They're probably. They better be having fun because it's fun to kick the crap out of people. I just, I just think it's. It's not fun to watch them play a bunch of bad teams. I would Just love and credit to Ohio State for scheduling Texas. Like, yes, they scheduled Texas. They went out of conference to go get a great game and that was 14 to 7. They love that game. That was at home. They won that football game. But, but since then, dude, like, there's not a lot to get excited about. So probably half of your winning, but there's nothing exciting. Like, yeah, Jeremiah Smith does it every game. Like, there's always something he does that's fun, but it's also really nice when you can sit out, like, it's not exciting not watching your guys either.
Host 2
So I think the other point about today as it relates to Ohio State and I do agree that like, to me they're sort of still head and shoulders from a talent perspective. There's a gap between them and the rest. It just goes to show you though, an ankle here, you know, just random injury that causes you to miss one of these playoff, you know, one of these big time guys to miss a playoff game. It like coin flip now. It's not like you can do that in the playoffs.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
I mean, these guys are needed.
Host 1
Yeah, it's. You're right in this chat. You're right. It's not their fault.
Host 2
No, it's not their fault.
Host 1
Penn State fell off a cliff and made sure there was rocks at the bottom because they didn't want to live through it. But it's also part of the, part of the formula. Like, and then Dan, who I love, I've, I've talked about how much I love when he throws that out there. I'm like, come on, man. Really? Like, because Dan's coached in this league. Dan knows exactly. He knows, he knows exactly what it is. And LSU's sad, by the way. Just like, do we, like, do we just. Do we, do we. I mean, do we go ahead and give Lane the LSU job now? Like, just like right now you come like, you can bring all of your, your Ole Miss guys with you because.
Host 2
I did see where all the weeks kids got on the field together.
Host 1
That's cool.
Host 2
Senior Day. All three of them that are there one other sort of one, BYU is only up six, two minutes ago. So that, that's going on right now. Have, they do have the ball. But as I'm watching today and sort of looking at the landscape of all this and watching these teams, I feel like we're gonna have like 10 of the 12 best teams in the playoff, barring some crazy like true craziness next weekend. Yeah, I think the best teams are going to be in the Playoffs and that's a great thing.
Host 1
Well, and we'll go over, we'll go over it this week too, because I think there's, I think the best teams are already in it pretty much.
Host 2
That's what I mean.
Host 1
Yeah, we're going to have like a good, like, we're going to have a good indicator. There's not going to be a lot that's going to be. The championship games are obviously going to be interesting to see how that works. But shoot, we got the committee coming around the corner too, which, like, they can't get worse. I mean, so hopefully, hopefully they watched, you know, Alabama's run game. It's not a surprise that Alabama had like eight rushing touchdowns today. I think, like, I think it was so, like, literally, I think it was something like that. I think it was that for that very reason. It's like, what'd you say? Like, that's, that's why, that's why they, that's why Miami threw that past too.
Host 2
Shout out to Tennessee getting a win at Florida for the first time since 2003. Yes, Florida has seemingly quit. Given up. Quit. There, you said it. But hey, they still went and took care of business and took care of business early. Didn't make them, didn't make him interested in the game. One other thing from today. Do you think Deuce Knight is now a part of your plan if you're Auburn next week against.
Host 1
I wouldn't, I wouldn't have played him today. I wouldn't have played him today. I would have, I would have saved him because there's a lot more indecision. Like, what is he, what is he gonna do? Like, you know, the high school version. But I would have saved him. I wouldn't have done it. I'm just telling you. I understand what you're saying. But weird thing, there is some kind of spirits and mojo and weirdness that goes on at Jade and Hair with Alabama comes to town. Like, there's just something about it that's crazy. But I would have held it. But listen, with their run game and their defense that they've had, it definitely makes sense to put them in the offense to run them a bunch and whatever you can to possess the football and play better offense. Like, but Auburn looked, they've, they've scored a lot of points the last three weeks. Like, the offense has gotten better and better and better. So can you play your best game at the end of the season where it's going to mean a whole lot, A whole lot. So good for them. Several Games will mean a whole lot.
Host 2
So what. What did you think of a certain. I guess. I mean, he is there. He's their coach, I guess, but I saw him on TV and the sidelines and everywhere else. Mr. Franklin is now fully invested. I loved it in Virginia Tech.
Host 1
I loved it. It's strange. It's very strange. But. But I think that the good thing about it is you're already starting to build culture. You're trying to get to know the guys. I think you're evaluating. I think you're on the sideline evaluating. I thought it was pretty cool. In the booth, he said he called Frank Beamer just to make sure that Frank Beamer was okay with him taking the job. He was like, he wanted to have his blessing. And I'm like, interesting, but. But I think that, like, being around the players in the locker room, being around the players on the sideline, watching the guys with good attitudes, I think you get to know a glimpse of them before they all jump in the portal and everything gets weird. I think. I think it's a good thing to have a little bit of knowledge and background of your. Of your team. You got one more game, too, where they can play spoiler. Like, they can. They can beat Virginia and knock them out of the acc, and they've had a bunch of that. There's a bunch of history there, and it's not good for Virginia. Like, it's not been good at all. Like, it's been very. It's been very lopsided in that. In that series. But can you think of an example like that?
Host 2
Like, I was trying to think of an example where Guy was coaching it. You know, I mean, a top five team early in the season gone and then rehired before the season even ends and is now hanging out on. I don't ever remember that happening, but I'm sure somebody's got an example of that happening.
Host 1
You've seen it with, like, bowl games where people will take over. Okay, yeah, but not. Not in the middle of the season. My wife asked me the same question. She was like, is he, like, coaching there now? I was like, no. I was like, the coach did get fired. Yes, he got fired. Yes, he's the next coach, but he's not there yet. And she was like, they're still an.
Host 2
Interim coach calling plays and talking to the team and all that.
Host 1
She was like, that seems really weird. Like, that sounds really weird. And I was like, go in and.
Host 2
Give up pep talk before the game. Let's go, guys.
Host 1
That would be even Weirder. I like what he said, though. He's, he said like, listen, college football's, it's here. Like, it's, it's, it's different. It's evolving. So we're gonna have to evolve. Let's do some things. I love the way Virginia Tech had a direction and Virginia Tech fans, again, you should be happy. You got a great coach. You got a guy that's won it multiple spots. Can he win the big game? No, he hasn't done that, but you're not going to win the big game anyways. So, like, how about we just get closer to bigger games? Like win, win a lot more games consistently and I think that's success. All right, I hope you all enjoyed it. Good recap. We'll be here all this week, man. And just this is, we're getting, we're getting closing time, man, last week of the season, last regular season week. So get everything locked in. Talk about all the games that really matter for playoff contention. Brent, I think we update the list of teams that are alive. I think it's a good time to do that.
Host 2
I have it right here.
Host 1
Yeah, wait for the, wait for the show. Wait for the show. Wait for the next show. And then we'll eliminate some people. I think we saw some teams today get eliminated. A couple of teams that will be on both of our lists, I'm sure that we'll get to take because those guys got, they got stung today maybe and got eliminated. I don't know. But we will see you guys all throughout this week. We'll be back three days this week, so we'll see y'.
Host 2
All.
Host 1
Appreciate y' all joining us. Peace.
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Date: November 23, 2025
Host: David Pollack
Co-Host: Brent Rollins
David Pollack and Brent Rollins break down all the major college football action from Week 13, providing raw, insightful analysis on several pivotal games with playoff implications. They dissect marquee matchups like USC-Oregon, Pitt-Georgia Tech, Utah-Kansas State, and more, examining team performances, coaching decisions, playoff outlooks, and player standouts. Their trademark banter and honest takes deliver a comprehensive rundown for fans who want to stay in the know on college football’s wildest weekend.
[01:36–11:51]
USC’s Struggles With Mistakes and Discipline
Oregon’s Resilience and Depth
Star Power and Breakout Players
USC’s Offense Lacks Balance Against a Physical Team
Oregon’s Playoff Profile
[14:34–24:19]
Pitt Upends Tech in “Spin the Wheel” ACC
Key Moments
Coaching and Season Impact
SMU’s Statement Win
[22:37–30:24]
[30:30–37:45]
[40:57–48:22]
[49:17–55:51]
Dan Lanning vs. Ohio State Scheduling Debate
Are Buckeye Fans Bored?
SEC, LSU, and Playoff Landscape
Shoutouts:
Coaching Carousel Oddities
USC-Oregon Special Teams Chaos:
"It was a competitive game in the house in the first half for special teams purposes for USC. … So you need things to go your way and you need to win the margins… That’s something that USC consistently doesn’t do.”
– David [02:04]
Oregon’s Running Backs:
“They run with some piss and vinegar. Like, they freaking come... every single time... they run angry and they fall forward.”
– David [05:26]
Pitt’s Defensive Stand:
“The defense started the day awful… Defense helped Pitt in the second half to 27 yards. 27. Like, they really locked it in.”
– David [17:44]
Utah’s Defensive Disaster:
“That wasn’t ugly. That was grotesque. That was pathetic. That was… Kansas State’s never rushed in the history of their school for more yards.”
– David [24:48]
Vanderbilt’s Diego Pavia:
“He’s back on this sucker... going to another level.”
– David [43:40]
Malachi Toney (Miami):
“He is the most versatile piece in all of college football. There is none more versatile than him.”
– David [45:31]
On Playoff Selection Debates:
“You know what’s nice? It’s a nice luxury, Dan. When Ohio State can rest their top two receivers… They don’t have to worry about surviving every game, because they’re not tested that much.”
– David [51:02]
| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-------------------------------------------|-----------| | 1 | USC-Oregon breakdown & Oregon’s edge | 01:36–11:51 | | 2 | Pitt-Georgia Tech, ACC/SMU implications | 14:34–24:19 | | 3 | Notre Dame-Syracuse, Utah-Kansas State | 22:37–30:24 | | 4 | Oklahoma-Missouri, playoff stakes | 30:30–37:45 | | 5 | Quick hits: Texas, Vandy, Miami, SMU | 40:57–48:22 | | 6 | Playoff rants, sched debates, SEC notes | 49:17–55:51 | | 7 | Closing: Coaching moves, playoff outlook | 57:44–end |
David Pollack and Brent Rollins provide a week’s worth of watercooler fuel—raw, passionate, and data-driven. Their discussions hit the game-changing plays (good and bad), call out playoff pretenders, and celebrate the underdogs making history. Listeners come away understanding not just what happened across college football in Week 13, but where the sport’s playoff race and storylines are heading next.
“We’re getting closing time, man, last week of the season, last regular season week. So get everything locked in. Talk about all the games that really matter for playoff contention.” – David [60:04]
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