CFP Shakeup: David Pollack's 12 if the College Football Playoff Started TODAY

Summary

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See Ball Get Ball with David Pollack

Episode: CFP Shakeup: David Pollack's 12 if the College Football Playoff Started TODAY

Date: November 25, 2025
Host: David Pollack
Guests/Co-hosts: Brent, Wesley

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the current state of college football as regular season play wraps up, focusing heavily on debates surrounding conference strength (specifically the SEC vs. Big Ten), the impact of the 9-game conference schedule, key coaching decisions (notably at FSU), and a fresh look at how the College Football Playoff (CFP) top 12 would shake out if it were selected today. The crew breaks down all the major matchups for rivalry week, shares candid thoughts on committee transparency, playoff chaos scenarios, and sprinkles in stats, banter, and the usual fan-driven energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. SEC vs. Big Ten: Who Reigns Supreme?

(02:00–09:30)

• Back-and-Forth with Top Coach:

  • David recounts a spirited text and phone debate with a “top 10 coach out west,” focusing on the Big Ten vs. SEC debate—a discussion that “invokes the most vitriol in college football.”
  • Notable recent Big Ten wins over SEC teams were listed, and both sides compared team numbers, talent spread, and atmospheres.

• Nine-Game Conference Schedule Debate:

  • David (echoing the coach):

    “The SEC will regret going to a nine game schedule because the debate at the end of the season now is going to be 10 and 4.” (04:40)

    • SEC could cannibalize itself, harming playoff chances.

• Atmosphere & Draft Talent:

  • SEC’s “crazy night games” highlighted as game-changers with massive crowds (“90 plus thousand people that are psychotic, crazy”) compared to some less intense Big Ten venues.
  • Talent stats: SEC – 79 draft picks, 10 teams with at least 4 draftees; Big Ten – 71, but with two more schools.

• Quote – David Pollack:

  “The Big Ten has back-to-back championships. They hold that crown ... and the gap’s continued to close with NIL.” (06:00)

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2. Coaching Carousel & FSU’s Mike Norvell Decision

(11:52–14:50)

• FSU Keeps Norvell:

  • David questions whether FSU has settled or made a smart, long-term move; discusses program investment (new facilities, staff spending rather than just player NIL).
  • Describes FSU’s recent rollercoaster: bowl-less years, a strong 23–4 run, and fans’ divided feelings on the future.

• Polling an Opposing Coach:

  • Quote from a Hall of Fame coach on Norvell:

    “He’s tough, he’s smart, he’s a good communicator, he has good integrity. I think they were smart to give him another year. Who can they hire that’s better?” (14:12)

• Long-Term Contracts Woes:

  “Every school stop paying these coaches all these long contracts...Give them big bucks, but don’t give them 10 years, man.” (15:55)

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3. CFP: Pollack’s Top 12 – November Rankings and Debates

(16:00–21:45)

• David’s Current Top 12 (in order):

  1. Ohio State
  2. Indiana
  3. Texas A&M
  4. Georgia
  5. Texas Tech
  6. Ole Miss
  7. Oregon
  8. Oklahoma
  9. Notre Dame
  10. Alabama
  11. Virginia
  12. Georgia Tech (but “Georgia Tech is out,” see below)

  “We do it every week, baby, the top 12 ... this is as if the playoff rankings were done and we’re releasing them to you.” (15:50)

• On Georgia Tech & Eliminator:

  • “It’s over, man. It was a great season ... Still a chance to play spoiler ... but they’re not going to playoff.” (21:45)

• Debates on Oregon’s ranking and trajectory in the CFP after beating USC.

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4. Playoff Committee Transparency & Selection Process

(23:26–25:38)

• David’s Take:

  “I want people on the committee that are all football people...coaches, players, people who have been in football a long time...We want healthy debate in the room.” (23:26)

• Fan Demand for Transparency:

  • Brent:

    “Just show it on TV.” (24:19)

    • The idea of a “committee under the hood” show:

    “That would be mother freaking glorious.” (24:19)

• Predictions:

  • If Texas Tech wins out, David thinks they should be top four:

    “If they win their conference championship, potentially even higher.” (26:02)

  • Hypothetical scenarios for Indiana, ACC teams, and Group of 5 interlopers.

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5. ACC Chaos & G5 Playoff Pathways

(27:45–29:56)

• ACC “Win and You’re In” Scenarios:

  • Virginia, SMU control their destiny. Winner of Miami/Pitt could sneak in with help.
  • David:

    “The ACC's kind of been like our Group of Five team, which you see Navy ... We’re going to put every group of five team that’s even remotely in the mix in that spot at least one time.” (31:33)

• Wild scenario conversations: G5 teams (Tulane, JMU, Navy) possibly outranking a weak ACC champ.

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6. Stat Deep Dive & Heisman-Level Merits

(35:35–37:24)

• Underdog Potential – Diego Pavia (New Mexico State):
  • “Number 2 in overall passing grade, number one in big time throw percentage, number one in yards per attempt ... who also has over 700 yards rushing and 8 TDs.” (Brent, 36:32)
  • Pollack:

    “The 700 rushing gave it away. But the nuclear last three weeks ... we gonna get nasty here.” (36:46)

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7. Rivalry Week Key Matchups – Analysis & Upset Watches

(37:24–52:03)

Ohio State vs. Michigan “The Game”

• Historic Trend:

  “For 20+ years in a row, the team who’s rushed for the most yards has won this football game. That’s asinine, bro.” (37:39, David)

• Debate on the causal meaning of this (does running more cause wins or vice versa?).
• Michigan’s offense “not humming”; QB run game could be the difference.

Alabama at Auburn (Iron Bowl)

• “Can Auburn score enough? ... I think it’s more of a blip.” (43:42)
• David advocates getting “the Deuce loose” (Deuce, backup QB).

Georgia vs. Georgia Tech (Clean Old-Fashioned Hate)

• Georgia’s Growth:

  “There’s nobody who realistically looked at Georgia and thought they were gonna be what they turned out to be. Credit to coaching, development.” (44:43)

• Stockton: 10th highest graded QB in P4, strong under blitz and pressure.
• Tech’s Only Hope:

  “If I’m Georgia Tech, I want to keep the football and run it with Haynes King ... If he needs to carry it 65 times, so be it.” (46:22–46:50)

Texas A&M at Texas

• “Does this game matter for the playoff? No ... unless we have some absolute madness, some stupid craziness.” (48:28)
• Bragging rights still matter.

Others with Upset Potential

• Oklahoma at LSU:

  “I think Oklahoma can lose that game ... Oklahoma’s offense, it should scare the piss out of you ... [but] back to back weeks against really good teams?” (50:18)

• Road = risk: “Road is always different.” (51:40)

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8. Who Won the Weekend?

(52:21–55:14)

• Pollack’s Pick: Catron Allen, Penn State’s new all-time leading rusher (3,554 yards):

  “Stayed for his senior year. Continue to run like an absolute demon even when the team technically had nothing to play for.” (52:21)

• Brent’s Pick: Pat Narduzzi, Pitt coach, for backing up his bold comments and winning a must-win.

• Wesley’s Pick: Mercer Bears, SoCon champs, heading to FCS Playoffs, despite a blowout loss to Auburn.

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9. Banter & Memorable Moments

• Pollack’s personal quirks:

  • “I bring my own chips to the Mexican restaurant when I go eat queso. If I’m going to eat queso...they’re mine, they’re good chips. You can make fun of me if you want to, Wesley.” (30:14)
  • This cracked up the crew.

• Committee Reality Show Dream:

  • “Could you imagine what number that would do on a network to have all—they’d be mother freaking glorious.” (24:19)

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Notable Quotes

• On the SEC/Big Ten gap:

  “The gap’s continued to close with NIL. Best players come from all over ... Champs matter. 79 draft picks for the SEC last year, 71 for the Big Ten.” [06:00]

• On Mike Norvell:

  “He’s tough, he’s smart, he’s a good communicator, he has good integrity. I think they were smart to give him another year. Who can they hire that’s better?” (Hall of Fame coach, relayed by David, 14:12)

• On Committee Transparency:

  “I want people on the committee that are all football people ... we want healthy debate in the room.” [23:26]

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Timestamps – Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------|-------------| | SEC vs. Big Ten debate with coach | 02:00–09:30 | | FSU, Mike Norvell decision | 11:52–14:50 | | CFP Top 12 discussion | 16:00–21:45 | | Committee process, TV transparency | 23:26–25:38 | | ACC chaos scenarios / G5 discussions | 27:45–29:56 | | Diego Pavia’s Heisman stats | 35:35–37:24 | | Rivalry week breakdowns | 37:24–52:03 | | Who won the weekend | 52:21–55:14 |

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Final Thoughts

• David and the crew delivered an opinionated, statistically-grounded episode, sparking college football’s hottest debates—conference supremacy, playoff chaos scenarios, and what “matters most” come Selection Sunday.
• Predictions for Rivalry Week and CFP were both bold and candid, with ongoing calls for more transparency and football logic on the playoff committee.
• Listener engagement is encouraged (“Hit the chat up ... Would you drive [Norvell] to the airport?”)—and the crew promises continued live coverage through Thanksgiving and beyond.

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For those who missed the episode, this summary delivers both the substance and spirit: sharp, playful, and endlessly passionate about college football’s biggest questions.

Transcript

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[Brent]

And how about that Pollock interception in the end zone.

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[Corey]

American, seven time Emmy Award winner. It's crazy, but it is upon us the last week of the regular season. That is nuts. Thanksgiving's around the corner. I hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving. We're not going to get back into the food discussion because some of y' all didn't like that. Y' all didn't like that. I don't like a lot of those dishes. We'll stay away from those. Speaking of not liking something, I got an amazing text today which led to an amazing conversation. So it was a back and forth with a with a head coach out west with great uniforms and a huge brand that backs them, a guy that came from the SEC and we had a very spirited back and forth text message for probably 3:30 or 40 minutes. And then finally it was like, all right, I'm just gonna call him. And it was the discussion between Big ten versus sec. Because if you saw the, the tweet I put out there about certain coach, certain leagues, it's, it's how I feel. But let me tell you how I left the conversation with this coach. I think he made a lot of sense and I like what he said. Okay, the nine game conference. Well, first of all, here's how the conversation started. I got a text and it said the last matchups in the last two years, Big Ten versus sec. So you got Ohio State beating Tennessee, USC beating A and Mish. Michigan beating Alabama, Illinois beating South Carolina, Ohio State beating Texas. That was in the bowl season. And then you got Missouri beating Iowa. So the Big Ten has had a lot of success. The bid 10 has two national championships in back to back season. So there's a lot to discuss. And that was how we started the conversation. And then it got back and forth and the nine game conference schedule came about. And here's the thing. Let's talk about that nine game conference schedule which means you play more people in your league. Is that a good thing? Is it a bad thing? Sometimes I think it's, it's luck. Sometimes it's who's good, who's not good. But here's another thing. One, one conference has 18 teams, one has 16. The Big Ten, they have more teams. So they obviously have more teams that aren't very good. Like that's going to happen. If you have more teams, naturally that's going to put it at stake. So that was a, that was a big indicator. And I think the one thing he said about the SEC doing nine games, I think they're absolutely going to cannibalize themselves. Absolutely. Like it's going to be a problem for them moving future. They're going to regret themselves doing it. The SEC will regret going to a nine game schedule because the debate at the end of the season now is going to be 10 and 4. And another thing he said was, you know, preseason polls. If Iowa was ranked in the preseason poll right now, they'd probably be ranked in the preseason poll. I can give a little bit on that. Like I, I can get down a little bit with where you're ranked preseason versus where you're not. So it just got me thinking. I will say this one thing that we've talked about here that we will continue to talk about when you talk about the SEC versus the Big Ten. The SEC has back to back or the Big Ten has back to back championships. They hold that crown, like, and the gap has continued to close with nil. Like, we talk about the best players on a lot of different rosters. They come from all over the place. They leave schools all the time to go get paid. Nothing wrong with it. Best defensive player on Ohio State is Caleb Downs. Right. Like, and we could go in a league for league. They've Nil has definitely changed that back to back. Champs matter. 79 draft picks for the SEC last year, 71 for the big Ten. So that's pretty close. Now again, 18 schools versus 16. And so, you know, I'm going to leave this because we're not going to like go into all this and we could probably do this in the offseason and be a little bit better. But it was a great conversation with a great coach that's got his team in the top ten, obviously, and done really, really well. Ten guys, ten teams with at least four guys drafted last year from the sec. Seven teams with at least four guys drafted from the Big Ten. Six teams with at least seven draft picks, Three teams with at least with seven or more draft picks from the Big Ten. Again, you got two more teams too. So the talent spread out a little bit more. But Washington, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan state, last year, one draft pick, one draft pick, Whiskey, Indiana, Nebraska, 2. Minnesota, Rutgers, USC, 3. And if I want to put the cherry on the top of it, what I said with this coach to end it was talking about, okay, tell me about atmospheres. You want to go play in this atmosphere? Maryland had six guys drafted a year ago. You want to go play at Maryland or you want to play at LSU that night? Do you want to play at Auburn? Do you want to play at Auburn where last year A and M walked into their place and it was a zoo with 90 plus thousand people that are psychotic, crazy. It changes the game in the atmospheres. So unbelievable conversation. Appreciate the coach a lot. He's a stud. He's a great dude. Brent, I see you. You got something to add to the conversation. He's a good dude. I love the coach, but he's a. He's an absolute stud.

[Brent]

I just want to know if you asked him for a helmet.

[Corey]

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[Corey]

It was a great. It was a great conversation. It was a great conversation back and forth. And the Text messaging. I was like, all right, dude, like, I'm going to call you because I don't want this to get off the rails, like, because I'm not getting upset. And I didn't think he would either, but I just, I love that. Well, it's such a. I will say.

[Brent]

That conversation, that singular conversation is probably the one that invokes the most vitriol.

[Corey]

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[Brent]

And I get it. I, I will, I will say, like from a conference standpoint, to me, every conference is tough because you play teams consistently, coaches learn each other, all the things with that. Road games are tough because of the, just typically because of the environments. But I, I do think the one thing for me was always anything like does, is Florida a bad team right now? Yes, Florida's a bad football team and their record is bad. But are they talented enough to, if they have a good day and they start feeling good to just dunk on you like they did Texas? Yes. Well, that exists top to bottom elsewhere.

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One, one of the conversations that we had, and it was a big agreeing from the other side was South Carolina's got a top 15 pass rusher, a first round quarterback and other guy, a bunch of other guys that are going to get drafted. You're not going to see that at a bunch of other schools. Like, you're just not going to see that in a lot of schools in the Big Ten. Here's the thing. In the end, Ohio State, you got nothing to apologize for. Oregon, you have nothing to apologize for. And you guys, you guys are throwing draft picks out there with everybody else. And so like it's not, it's not you that we're talking about. Like it's, it's the teams that you're playing against consistently. Like you look at Illinois put another loss up this past week. Like Ohio State again is searching for an opponent that we want to respect like, that we really want to say a lot about. And we go, okay, Texas is pretty good. Okay, different league obviously. But it's, it's, it's a fascinating debate. It's a lot of fun and I respect that.

[Brent]

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They make a business decision. They announced the timing. Now they announced they're going to keep him. I think there's plenty of factors that goes into this. FSU is probably frustrated because I think it just ask yourself, like, okay, like as an FSU fan, like, are we trying to get to the next level? Are we trying to, to go out and get a great coach? I thought this was really, really interesting because when you, when you ask that question, like, are we good enough? This is Norvell's sixth season in the, in the five seasons previous, you know, three seasons, the five seasons he's completed three seasons he didn't make a bowl. And then they have that 22, 23 run where 23 and 4 ACC champs, should have been in the playoff. Got absolutely hosed. So what the heck happened? Like, how do we fall so far off a cliff to go 2 and 10 two years ago? Not this year, last year. And then this year to go play at Florida and go, we got to win this to get to a bowl game. Like, how did it get there? And, and I think that that tells a lot. I talked to an FSU fan the other day and they're like, I'd rather have the other guy we had. I'm like, you don't even know his name. Like, you know the, the, the Willie Taggart guy. I'm like, okay. Like y' all come to that. Like you're that frustrated. But here's a couple things to keep in mind about fsu. One, you just gave your facilities a facelift, which was much needed. It was much needed. But when you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a facelift to, to, to do all that stuff around the, the program to make it look better, it. That's a lot of money you're spending now. You have to go pay the second biggest buyout in the history of college football. Second biggest buyout. Like if you paid Norvell 50 something million dollars to go away, only the previous FSU coach is. Buyout is higher. Jimbo Fisher at A and M, not at, not at Florida State. But, but I think that, I think here's what FSU is doing. I think they, they like their recruiting class. They got a good recruiting class. But FSU spending money on the front office, FSU is spending money on the scouting department. Like they're going to try to get better around the coach. The world has changed so much in this new era. You see a bunch of people getting rid of coaches, paying a lot of money. You saw Wisconsin said they want to invest in players. I think FSU investing in the front office, investing in scouting, invest in players. Like, here's what Norvell has to do to me. Like, he's gotta, he's got to develop these guys better. You shouldn't have a 2 in 10 season at FSU. Shouldn't happen. You got to find a way to win close games. You got to find quarterbacks that you can bring in. It doesn't have to always be a transfer portal guy. It can be, but like find some high school kids. It's not like you don't have, you know, any funds or any history. You've got some of that. So I think if I'm fsu, I'm A little bit frustrated, but if I'm fsu, I'm going, dude, I need. I need seven to eight wins consistently. Like, I'm in the acc. It's not a. It's not an elite league with a bunch of guys where it's Murderers Row. I'm fsu. I should win seven games. I should win eight games. So I think he's got one more year. I think he's got one more year to develop that and see if he can figure it out. And if not, the Mike Norvell experience is going to be gone. I'm going to give you this quote, though. I reached out to a coach that coached against Norvell several times. Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame coach. Like this dude, you would know his name if I told you his name big time. And I said, what kind of a coach is Mike Norvell? What do you think about this decision? He said, a coach that is, as a coach that has competed against him for many years, he said, he's tough, he's smart, he's a good communicator, he has good integrity. He said, I think they were smart to give him another year. Who can they hire that's better? And that's always the question, man. A lot of people paying a lot of money to get rid of folks. Who are you going to go get? And I think FSU making a conscious effort, we're going to make the system around them better. The front office, the scouting department. Like, let's get a system in place. And if this isn't our guy, like, if we've got to pay him to go away because his contracts to through 2031, if we got to pay him to go away, we're in a better spot. And here's a note to self. Every school around the country, stop paying these coaches all these long contracts. Stop giving them big bucks for 10 years, for eight years. Like, give them big bucks, but don't give them 10 years, man. That doesn't make any sense to me. I wouldn't do it if I was making the decisions. So Mike Norvell stays in Tallahassee. FSU fans, I wonder how you feel. Hit the chat up, man. Like, I'd love to see if you guys like that or not. Would you drive him to the airport? Would you want to keep him? I think it's probably going to be mixed reviews, but he has one. He has. He put together some really good seasons. Can he put together a few more? All right. We do it every week, baby. The top 12 and again, this is our top 12. So kick rocks, go away. You can. You can do your own top 12 if you want to and you can share it wherever you want. Again, this is as of if the playoff rankings were done and we're releasing them to you. Ohio State still very much number one. Got to rest their two receivers this week. No problem. Still got to take care of business. Not even challenged. Didn't break a sweat. Didn't give up 100 yards rushing again for 10 straight games, which is amazing. I think it's the first time they've ever done in Ohio State history. Indiana cruising. Indiana at 2 A&M at 3, Georgia at 4. So again, that's exactly the same from the top we had last week. And guess what? More non changes. Ole Miss at five. Oh, no, excuse me. Texas Tech at five. That's exactly what we had last week. We had Texas Tech up there. Not going to be prisoners of the moment. It's not going to change from one week. Number six is Ole Miss Hottie Toddy continues to win. Now, listen, I think it's going to be absolutely fascinating when we look at this and we're going, what the heck's going to happen in the playoff? Is Lane Kiffin there? I mean, crazy, unbelievable, weird event like something we haven't ever seen, but it's probably going to happen. So strap it on. Number seven, the Oregon Ducks. Quack, quack. Big win. Took care of business against usc. Showed their physicality, took some serious injuries. And I look forward to seeing more about the injuries as the week goes on. But put. That's. That's a nice win. That's a really nice win against USC. Who's still going to be ranked in the top 18, probably in the rankings when they come out. Numero ocho. Oklahoma. Oklahoma still up there with one of the hardest schedules in the country. Have beaten again. At least four teams that are ranked. Beat Michigan out of conference. Like, did a really good job with the. With the schedule. The material injury still very much a thing, whether you want it to be a thing or not. But Oklahoma, it was ugly. It wasn't pretty. Offense wasn't great, but. But they took care of business. So Oklahoma at eight. Numero nueva. Number nine, Notre Dame. Wait a minute. Yep. Notre Dame just scored again. They just scored again. They scored 700 versus Syracuse and it was a good day at the office, so no reason to move them still. People are going to get upset with that. Absolutely. 100% going to not like where Notre Dame is ranked. I think they're a really good football team. I think they've. They've done all the things to take care of business to this point. And again, four. Four points and two losses early in the season. You can feel however you want about that. Alabama at 10. Huge game with Alabama coming up. Like, huge game. It makes me think of Ace Ventura, man. Like, I have exercise the demons, right? Like, there's a lot of house of horrors at Auburn, at GID and hell. And so big week for Alabama and we got to go Virginia at 11, because guess what? ACC, baby. You got to have a team in it. Georgia Tech loses, they fall back. Georgia Tech's, you know, ACC's kind of been like our Group of Five team, which you see Navy. Why, they're not the highest ranked team? No, absolutely not. But guess what? We're just going to throw another one up there because that's what we're doing. That's what we're going to continue to do. We're going to continue to just spin a wheel, put a different person in there every single week. So that's our top 12, baby. It's a lot of, A lot of interesting things to look at, but, man, you can feel pretty confident about a lot of teams on this list and their schedule this next week. And again, I'm not sure there's not seven teams on that list that can't lose. And it's okay still. And that's what's pretty interesting. Like one through seven on my list. If you lose, you're probably still in this thing. And then you're talking about. Oklahoma's obviously got to win, Notre Dame's got to win, Alabama's got to win to not let the other folks out. Virginia's got to win to stay in the ACC hunt, which the ACC we'll talk about in a second, which is unbelievable. Like, they're still four teams very much alive. So the top 12 continues to be fun. Tomorrow night they'll do the. We'll do the rankings and then, you know, get ready for some turkey after that. But all right, we do it every week. We do the locks, we do the eliminator, and we're going to, we're going to kick some teams out. So, Brent, I would love to be positive, but we had to switch. We just went positive with the top 12. All those teams that are in. We didn't talk about teams that weren't out, but team that is out. Georgia Tech. I'm a rambling wreck from Georgia Tech. It's. It's over, man. It was A great season. It was still a great season. Still have a chance to play Spoiler. Brent Key should be proud of his team in the way that they reload. They lose guys every single year. You look at Singleton going place like you're going to lose guys that are going to get paid somewhere else but their roster and where they've done business, really, really good. It's. And Haynes King can. He's just been unbelievable. Like he's been ridiculous and he deserves so much credit for what he's put together.

[Brent]

But they're not going to playoff. But they go, yeah, usc for me, that the third loss for them. That was the one. And that's what's going to be interesting tomorrow night when they do the rankings. Does anything actually change because the top 14 teams won? Like USC at 15 was the first team that, that was ranked and lost. Do you think that Oregon, because of that win, somehow jumps either Ole Miss or Texas Tech in the CFP rankings? That comes out tomorrow night because you jumped them two spots from where you had them a week ago.

[Corey]

Yeah, I think that it. I think that it could because again, right, wrong or indifferent with this committee, the, the losses have really mattered. The lack of losses for certain teams has kind of overridden the. The. The big wins they have. And so you add a big win for Oregon and you still have the one loss. So I do. I think it's. I think it's going to continue to matter. So I do. Do I do I think that way? Probably not. Like, I don't think that I, I think it's a combination which again, that's why all this is always so hard because there is no formula that makes it. Makes it make sense. Don't give me the bcs because people be complaining about the BCS too. Like you're always. We've always got something to complain about. But this is why I've said from the beginning and took a lot of heat, by the way, when I was at ESPN when I made certain comments about certain people on the committee. Dude, I want people on the committee that are all football people. I want people that have coached. I want people that have played. I want people that have been in football. Their tenure in football is so extensive and so long. They've seen all the, all the new school, all the old school. I want retire coaches like crazy. I want assistant coaches. It.

[Brent]

It.

[Corey]

I just think it makes the most sense because. And again, I want balance. I want different leagues because we all have a set of lenses that we look through. Look, look Things through that are a little bit different and that's okay. And we want that because we want healthy debate in the room.

[Brent]

I will say most of this stuff is actually predictable. Like there's a great follow on Twitter at college football professor underscore, Professor Adam McClintock.

[Corey]

You would, you would do a professor. Look, Mr. Professor there himself.

[Brent]

Well, they, him and Dave Bartoo, they do it like an analytic. They, they do that sort of stuff and they show them all the metrics and they have metrics that. And they're using their projections have been sort of right on the money basically throughout all these years of doing this and after. And they show it afterwards. Like, hey, projection. The thing I've always just said is, all right, all that stuff that they have, the metrics that the committee has, just show it on tv.

[Corey]

Like transparent.

[Brent]

I don't ever.

[Corey]

Hey, I've never seen on TV the ACC under the hood. Can you imagine the ratings, the committee under the hood, broski. Like, could you imagine what number that would do on a network to have all, like, you're watching these guys debate this in a room that would be mother freaking glorious. Like, how awesome would that be to listen? Like fans would. Fans would lose their stuff. They would be excited, they would be happy, they would go back and forth. That would be the most amazing television ever.

[Brent]

So I heard like they were talking about that Chiefs Cowboys might get like 50 million potentially on Thanksgiving this week. I think, I think that many, I think every college football fan on the planet would watch that 30 minute show of just them looking at their metrics and seeing the screen and, and debating and talking and like put. Maybe if they went and grabbed a, you know, like a one like the NBA draft, they go and they put the card in the thing. Maybe if they did that, I mean.

[Corey]

I would, I would be. I would be like a kid in a candy store. I would. That's one show I've. I watch very little television. I watch games. I don't watch pre games and stuff like that just because I like my thoughts. I would watch the piss out of that. Like, I would, I would. I would set my DVR to that every single week. Like.

[Brent]

All right, couple other questions though. Texas Tech wins out. You think they're in the top four?

[Corey]

I don't know how the committee's going to handle the conference championship games and if it's going to really, really matter if they went out, I think they will be. If they went out, to me, I think they should be a top four team. And I say that because you're going to play an extra game. And again, for everybody who's not Texas Tech fans and not watching from the Big 12, they lost the game with their backup quarterback. Like their backup quarterback lost. That's, that's the game they lost. They also beat the crud out of Utah with their backup quarterback, which is another topic. Well, don't get me started on the utes. But, but I would, I would move them up. I would absolutely, I think put them at four. If they win their conference championship, potentially even higher.

[Brent]

I think Indiana, let's project ahead. Let's just say it's Ohio State, Indiana, they're both undefeated. Ohio State takes care of Michigan this week, which is still obviously, which is a big question. Which, which is an if, especially recently, and we're going to talk about that later. But if it's the same result as last year, like where it's. What was it, 34 to 12 or something. I mean it was beat down but, but it was still pretty handled very much from Ohio State. Do you think Indiana drops out of the top five? Because I actually was thinking about this scenario today if that happens and Indiana would maybe drop to 5. What if JMU is the group of.

[Corey]

5 team at 12, Signetti vs old.

[Brent]

Squad, Signetti vs his old squad in the playoff.

[Corey]

That would be cool.

[Brent]

That would be potentially a happen thing. But do you think they stay at drop out of the top four if that's the case, if that result is the same as a year ago, if.

[Corey]

They get beat down by Ohio State.

[Brent]

Like if it's a, say a 20 point game.

[Corey]

Yeah, I think they should. I think they absolutely should. If, if you're going to go to the conference championship game and like, and you're going to play a good opponent, which you haven't played a lot of good opponents, and you get boat raced, like we're going to take a step backwards. Like that's, that's the way it works. That's the way it should work. That's the way it will work for me. How about this ACC mess though? This, this, like, could we get zero teams from the acc?

[Brent]

No, I don't think so.

[Corey]

That would be incredible because you could, it could happen, like just to be.

[Brent]

Clear, technically, mathematically still live.

[Corey]

They're 100%.

[Brent]

There's some live crazy scenario that they.

[Corey]

Let's talk, let's talk about the ACC real quick. So let's, let's boil this down to nuts and bolts. Like you got four teams that are basically in it, like Virginia Win and you're in. SMU win and you're in. You're in. Right now, Miami plays Pittsburgh, and then the winner of the Miami Pittsburgh game needs a little bit of help from one of the other two teams, and then they get to crash the party. That's the easiest way. Like I can describe it to you, but. But again, the problem in this discussion with the playoffs is like, Tulane keeps climbing the raining rankings. JMU keeps climbing the rankings, and if they get ranked above a team that wins the. Their. Their. The acc, Brent, they could. They could. They could feasibly be sent home. They could be sent home.

[Brent]

I don't think so. I just. I.

[Corey]

If Duke somehow got in with all that craziness, they could be.

[Brent]

Well, so. Okay, that's the only way. That's the only way it's even possible. You'd have to have. And. Because you'd have to have two G5 teams be the. Because it's five conference champs. So. Yeah, that's the only way possible because there's no way that Virginia, smu, whomever wins that wins their last game and then wins the conference championship, that those guys aren't ranked. Yeah, that's not happening.

[Corey]

But it's cool because Virginia plays Virginia Tech, which always means something at the end of the year. SMU gets cow, and then Pittsburgh and Miami. So, like, that's your rooting interest, which you're looking for for the ACC and how that gets decided. But Miami's. Miami's got a long shot. But. But they definitely. They look like the most. They look like the team that could do the most damage. Like Miami physically could probably match just about anybody. Now the injuries starting to add up on their defense, too. But I think Miami's probably the only team that would scare some people that could beat a really, really good team in the playoff. Otherwise, I'm not sure that would happen. But how about. Oh, Wesley. What's up, brother?

[Wesley]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure Corey con queso that. Trent, you've been speaking a lot of Spanish on the show tonight. By the way, Corey con queso literally translates to Corey with cheese. He says, thoughts on Notre Dame making another title run? They look more dangerous than last year. Love the show. Thanks, Corey.

[Corey]

Corey, we appreciate that. And everybody loves queso. Who doesn't love queso? Now, I do bring my own chips to the Mexican restaurant when I go eat queso. If I'm going to eat queso. Yeah. Why would I not bring my own chips? That's. I bring my own chips because they're not fried. They're. They're mine. Like, they're. They're good chips. They're great chips. I mean, you can make fun of me if you want to, Wesley, but I bring.

[Wesley]

No, I'm not making. Funny. I'm just. Every, every day I learned something about you that disappoints me or just completely flummoxes me.

[Corey]

So that disappoints me. That's fantastic. Appreciate you, Corey, but, yeah, Notre Dame is, Notre Dame is dangerous. And their offense, I think, more dangerous than a year ago. I don't think their defense is as good, but they can beat you through the air. They can pound it. Obviously, with price. And love. And love. Working his way to New York, I. Brent, numbers me. Let's get some numbers. We do it every week.

[Wesley]

DP I got one more, one more quick thing on your Navy edition here that I don't know if a lot of people know.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Wesley]

Army Navy is after. After committee announces its rankings has no bearing on. On the, on the deal. On the whole shebang. Yep. I mean, does Navy potentially get punished because of that? I mean, that's a data point that they don't have.

[Corey]

They don't have yet. Yeah, they don't have in that game. The, the best game. If you could go to one game in any season, that's the best game to go to. The pageantry is, is incredible. It's through the roof. It's so cool. It's really, really awesome. But, but all the stuff before the game, everybody in uniform, the competitions, the pranks that they play on each other during the week, it's, it's, it's, it's second to none. But, but I think it would hurt. And I don't think Navy's going to be the team. But I've made it very clear we're going to put every group of five team that's even remotely in the mix in that spot at least one time. Navy. The midshipmen get their spot, baby. So let's get weird. But when they play army. My uncle Gus was in the army. I'll always pick army. So let's, we'll pick name it Navy this week.

[Brent]

All right.

[Corey]

Brett, numbers me.

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[Brent]

To play a playoff game potentially six days after that game. That's amazing. Just a random thing to Corey's question there. Making another title run. I tweeted on September 30 because I was somebody had looked at the odds for the national championship. Notre dame had the 12th best odds on September 30th. I said I'd take a flyer on Notre Dame. I have a feeling we might see a national championship rematch. That was on September 30th. So this that was short. That wasn't all these other games later. So I agree with I agree with Corey very much. They can make a run and when.

[Corey]

You went back to September 30, it's.

[Brent]

Just that was a long time ago. That was way before all these wins they've had. You know that. Hey, all right, Pro Football Focus. I've worked for them for over a decade in terms of promo code. Promo code. Get ball 25, you can get 25 off PF and actually I think go to the website now. I think there's a even better deal. Black Friday deal. Maybe it's like 40 or 35% something like that that somebody could get there. So I'm going to give some numbers for a quarterback here and I, I want to first ask, ask a question here. A quarterback, just blind quarterback. Number two in overall in passing grade. Pff. Passing grade. Number one in big time throw percentage. So in terms of how many throws they make, big time throw, highest graded throws. Number one in yards per attempt, eighth in yards, fifth in touchdown passes. Who also has over 700 yards rushing in eight TDs. Does that quarterback sound like somebody who's a Heisman finalist?

[Corey]

700 yards rushing.

[Wesley]

Yep.

[Corey]

Oh, is that Pavia?

[Brent]

That is Diego Pavia.

[Corey]

Yeah. I'm not.

[Brent]

Number two in overall in passing grade. Number one in big time throw percentage. Number one in yards per attempt.

[Corey]

All the 700 rushing. The 700 rushing gave it away. But the, the, the nuclear last three weeks for like we going to get, we going to get nasty here on this, on this show. In a couple, in a cup in a week probably like whenever that is whenever if they beat Tennessee like we going to have some conver stations like it will be very fascinating. The debates are going to be good between byu, between Utah, between all, every single team that's, that's on the periphery in the fringe because I don't think you want Vanderbilt to continue to do what they're doing like because they look like a really, really complete team right now.

[Brent]

All right, so let's get to some of those matchups this week. Rivalry week. First one, the game right In Ohio State. Michigan. Four straight losses. You always talk what's the stat you get? Please tell me the stat that you give as it relates to this game.

[Corey]

20 plus years in a row the team who have rushed for the most yards have won this football game. That's asinine, bro.

[Brent]

That many years. Yes, but there's also an element of that where to me I would say.

[Corey]

What do you mean? Yes, that's, that's a big deal. Yes.

[Brent]

But you, you know better than that.

[Corey]

You know what's amazing to me is Mr. Numbers guys just wants to take my number that I like to give out there 20 straight years of something happening. Like, yeah, but no, 20 straight years.

[Brent]

The team that's taken a knee at the end has won the game too. Like usually when you're winning, you run the ball more. That's like, it's not necessarily so.

[Corey]

So you. So every team that wins always rushes for more than the other team. Oh, I got you.

[Brent]

No, it's. No, it's not always the case. But anyway, like I just, I went and look back at the games. So M. Last year, Michigan was up 7 to 3 early in the second quarter. They never trailed again. Like so they're running the ball 23. They never trailed 22. They led basically the entire second half. Their first three touchdowns were on long pass plays. Do you remember that? All the big plays that J.J. mcCarthy had.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

@ Ohio State that year and those sort of things. So. And then 2021, Michigan led the entire second half. 2020, they didn't play. And then 2019, Ohio State took a lead with like eight minutes ago in the first quarter. Never trailed. So these teams that they're playing from ahead early and a lot of it has to do with passing weather, Explosive weather.

[Corey]

The weather, the weather is a bit. I was talking to the coach I was talking to today earlier that I talked about, talked about, hey, how about Michigan winning at the end of the year? I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, Coach, like Ohio State's biggest weapon is nullified. Like when you, when you play in those conditions, the fact that you can't throw the football, wide receiver, you like the weapons out wide, it's nullified. Like if they played in the beginning of the season, this would be totally different to me. Like if you play when it was better weather. But it's not. And that's the game we're going to play. And the team up north, according to Ohio State, keeps walking that Heiney. So I'm excited to watch this game, man. Like this. It could take out a couple of years of frustration in this one.

[Brent]

All right, so the question for the, for this game and I've got a couple numbers and we'll get to the question. Let you hit that last three years. So last year they pressured Will Howard on 50% of their drop backs. They had Ohio State of two picks. Previous year over 30 pressure. McCord 2 ints. Previous year a little over 20 pressure. Trout 2 ints. Julian Saying has been pressured about 25 of his drop backs, but he has the second highest passing grade under pressure. He's only got two turn worthy plays and he has the number one passing grading completion percentage when he's been blitzed. So can Michigan truly pressure and affect and impact Julian saying in this game?

[Corey]

Yeah, and he's, and he's been good and Michigan does a great job man with their pressures and they, they show things and hide things. But like I think it's going to be amazing that that's a good number and that's a good matchup. But like Michigan's offense, man, like it's not humming, it's not humming like it, it's just doesn't look good. Bryce, Bryce Underwood, like it's been a slow creep. The other direction. The only thing that matters to me. And we'll get into this like the one number that's going to make the most difference. Bryce Underwood rushing. Because I bet you the dude will carry it 20 times if he needs to. Like Justice Haynes. I hope he's back just for, for their sake and I hope he's, you know, healthy enough. But I know it's probably not going to be, it's probably not going to be a chance he's going to tote it 20 times or 30 times. But Bryce Underwood's legs will decide the football game. Can they, can he run the football consistently?

[Brent]

And that's why I focus more so Michigan's defense because I think Michigan from an offensive standpoint it's like, okay, we have to win a low scoring game. So thus we have to make sure that Ohio State's offense.

[Mike Norvell]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yep. Alabama at Auburn. You already talked about the craziness Iron Bowl. So Ashton Daniels obviously did not play last week so he could preserve the red shirt deal. But the previous week when he played against Vandy and it was an up and down, back and forth, a lot of yards game, he had 83.4 overall grade and a 78.5 rush grade had, you know, almost 450 over. 450 total yards, four touchdowns. That's the highest graded quarterback, highest graded game at quarterback for Auburn since. Who do you, who do you think was the previous highest graded game at QB for Auburn in a, in a power forward game throwing or period? Just overall.

[Corey]

Nick Marshall.

[Brent]

You went too far back. Bo Nix.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And it was actually the game he got hurt like because he got hurt there towards the end of the season against Mississippi State right late in the second half. And then TJ Finley took over and I think TJ Finley played that those last couple games where they almost beat Alabama kept him out of the SEC championship game almost that year. But the question here for this is, can Auburn score enough? Is the offensive performance that you saw against Vanderbilt, do you think that's real with Daniels playing qb or is that a blip?

[Corey]

I think it's more of a blip. I don't, I don't think it's as real, which is why I think they might need, I think they might need, might need the young fellow that you saw last week, like Deuce. I wouldn't have played Deuce last week. I would have saved him for this week. But you got to get the Deuce loose a little bit, right? Like, I think the big, the big, He's a big sucker that can run, man. Like, and this is going to sound so, so strange, but like, I don't need that much in the passing game. It's not like Ashton throws the ball elite. Like, can he manage the game? Yeah, but like Deuce can throw jump balls to Cam.

[Brent]

I was like, can you throw any jump balls to Cam Coleman and give him a chance?

[Corey]

Like, so, So I think that I, I think that, I think the young fella has to play a little bit. But.

[Brent]

Well, I mean, there's probably some element to, you know, he hasn't really played a lot and much of it all. So get him comfortable there before. Put him in that spot at night in that game maybe, potentially. But yeah, I, I definitely understand what you're saying there. All right, next one. Georgia at Georgia Tech, which is not at Georgia Tech, it's in Mercedes Benz Friday afternoon, which I think it's cool that Friday we get the Egg bowl, we get clean old fashioned hate and we get Texas A M and Texas all on Friday.

[Corey]

So amazing. God, our weekend's even better than, than Turkey and football on Thursday too.

[Brent]

All right, let's revisit a what's more likely question we had earlier. Do you remember? I think it was, I think it was after the Alabama game and I asked you what's more likely, Does Georgia go 8 and 4 or 10 and 2?

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

And you said 8 and 4 at that point.

[Corey]

So would have you so would have everybody.

[Brent]

I mean it was that, that feeling at that time was 100 different.

[Corey]

Like watching, watching Georgia's offense the first couple games. Like there's nobody that real and their defense, there's nobody that realistically looked at Georgia and thought they were going to be what they turned out to be. Credit to coaching to who they are, to what they are. Credit to development. Like, we talk about Norvell and developing like so many young guys. Just continue, continue to Come Elijah Griffin, right, like the big fella in the middle, like he's going to be a problem. He's going to be an animal. He's fun. He's got some Jalen Carter to his game. Like you watch him and the quick swims and he's like Jalen didn't know how to do a lot of things as a freshman. Like you learn that stuff like that stuff that you continue to grow as you get, you get older. But like the young players settled at corner Gunner Stockton continuing to improve the offense to evolve to what they are. The offensive line to get healthy because the offensive line was beat to crap in the beginning of the season. So absolute credit to, to Georgia and where they're at. But yeah, I think everybody saw Georgia earlier was like, this is not overwhelmingly impressive at all.

[Brent]

Just some numbers for Gunner Stockton. He's the 10th highest graded quarterback overall in the power four. His nine over 90 passing grade against the blitz, third best in the power four. And his passing grade under pressure, fourth best in the power four. So talk about where he was versus where he is now.

[Corey]

If, if you didn't say homie, if you didn't say 700 yards rushing, I was going to say Gunner Stockton for your question. But when you said 700, I knew that it had to be somebody like Pavia.

[Brent]

But yeah, question for this game.

[Corey]

Incredible.

[Brent]

Can Tech slow down Georgia enough? Because needless to say, their defense has not played well over the last month.

[Corey]

No, their pass rush isn't good. They're not elite in the back end. But you know what, here's what, here's my, my recipe. If I'm Georgia Tech, if I'm Georgia Tech, I want to keep the football like I want to keep the football and I want to possess it and I want to run it with, with, with Haynes King. If Haynes King needs to carry it 65 times in this game, so be it. And I think he will. Like he's going to carry it a lot. The weather will be great. He took a lot of shots last week. I was like, yeah, dad gum, man. He keeps taking shot after shot after shot. The pop passes, all of the things that they can do to kind of slow Georgia down a little bit. I'll be interested to watch Georgia this year because if they do what they did last year, like you're going to give, you're going to give up 30 points, you're going to get destroyed. If you line up and try to beat your, your guys are better than theirs and don't bring pressure like it's, it's not going to go well if you play like, if you play sound scheme the whole game and do all of this two gap and be predictable with your guys coming off the edge and spilling. Like, it's not going to be fun. Like, they're going to have to have some more unpredictability to themselves because this offense, they can really, if they know what you're doing, they'll just, they'll just pick a scab at you. Like they'll just, they'll just pick it. Picket. Picket. They'll just, it's like death by a thousand paper cuts.

[Brent]

Yep. I think they're going to do a lot with the diggings. Auburn in the second half. You see more even fronts, more sort of wide edge technique from them in this game because that's not really something that they've done a lot in the past against teams like this.

[Corey]

I love what they did against Texas too. Coming off the edge, like going straight to the quarterback, not spilling every single time. Like, just get. Because again, if you're a play caller and I know what you're going to do, it doesn't mean I can beat your guys. And in the past, you couldn't beat Georgia's guys even when you knew what they were doing because physically you couldn't hold up. That hasn't been the case the last two seasons with the Georgia defense. But like, you're starting to see a little more variation.

[Brent]

All right. Texas A and M at Texas on, on Friday. Oh, man, what a good question. I only got, I, I, I wasn't gonna, I was gonna dive in numbers and all that sort of stuff, but I thought no. Does this game matter at all?

[Corey]

Yes.

[Brent]

Like in terms playoffs. In terms of the playoff, no.

[Corey]

But, but this A and M needs to exercise this demon. A and M needs to beat Texas. Like you get a chance to show Texas, like who runs the state of Texas. And obviously Texas Tech has a debate too, because they in this conversation and obviously North Texas very much in this conversation, don't forget them. But like, I think it means a lot. Like, you know, Texas A and M. I get that.

[Brent]

I was meaning more so specifically for the playoff.

[Corey]

No, I don't think it means a lot for the playoff unless we have some absolute madness, like some stupid craziness that happens. Because if Texas is in the debate, listen, you can at me and you can get upset if Texas is in the debate with Utah for fighting for the last spot. Like, I'd go Texas, I'd go Texas over Utah. I Love you, Utah. But they've got, they've got better wins. They've been more impressive. Like, they, Their losses aren't that bad either. Like, they didn't get. They didn't. Florida loss is horrible, but they didn't get curb stomped by Dagum Texas Tech when they played a good team like that. That didn't happen to him. So we. But I think the way things have fallen right now, I don't think they're going to be in the debate, but I do think they have a chance to play a little bit of like, hey, hold my beer. Like Michigan did last year with Ohio State on the way out. Hold my beer. A and M might go win it, but your seed's going to be different.

[Brent]

Okay. All right. A lot of. There's so many huge games this week to talk about. I just want to. I picked five or even, even of the ones, the four that we, the quick four that we just talked about. Add to that Miami, Pittsburgh, Ole Miss State, Utah, Kansas, Oregon, Washington, lsu, Oklahoma. Is there anyone that you already have. Have that kind of feeling, like this is like upset potential, monkey wrench kind of game?

[Corey]

Heck yeah. Early in the week, I think Oklahoma can lose that game. Now, LSU's defense is good. Like, Oklahoma's offense. It should scare the piss out of you. Like, their defense obviously is going to do their job. Thank God they're at home. Like, I think that's a big deal, being at home. But Oklahoma's offense, like, how many games can you score? 23, 17. Like, how many games Back to back weeks against really good teams where that's enough not to make mistakes. Like, and they haven't turned the ball over. That's going to come at some point too. In lsu, the back end, like, you don't think they can lock those receivers down. Like, that passing game that's really, really struggled. They're not great up for. Like, if I'm Oklahoma, I'm like, I got to hold my breath one more time. Like, because they got to win this game to be in. I don't think they're going to be. Now we could. That's another debate too, about Mattier and the losses. But if I'm Oklahoma, like, I'm, I'm. I'm a little bit nervous, man.

[Brent]

Okay, that's. That's all I was looking for is mainly that one game where you're like, okay, it's a little squirrely already early in the week. Yeah, dove into it, truly. But that's a, that's a monkey wrench. Game because I mean you think about a lot of this. There has to be outside of, you know, championship weekend, all these teams, it's not like anybody's really playing each other until then. So you got to have some level of chaos where. And you've got a lot of these higher ranked teams going on the road to non ranked or lower ranked teams. And always when you go on the road, it's a little different story.

[Corey]

Road is always different.

[Brent]

Like Alabama at Auburn. That's one for me. That was. I'm. Yeah.

[Corey]

And Auburn fans would love that so much. I mean they would take so much like to knock them out of the playoff like going into the off season where they're, they're gonna like look for a reset and a new start just to be able to be like, hey, y' all are staying home with us. You don't get to go either. Like just.

[Brent]

It would be, it would be one other thing actually. You think about it, that's still possible. It's still possible that Kaylin DeBoer goes 9 and 3 and misses the playoffs two years in a row. And it's still possible that Crystal Ball goes 10 and two and misses the playoffs with the same record two years in a row.

[Corey]

Yep.

[Brent]

That's amazing to think.

[Corey]

Yeah. All right, victory formation. Who won the weekend? I got one for you. Catron Allen, now Penn State's all time leading rusher. Congratulations. Stayed for his senior year. Continue to run like an absolute demon even when the team technically had nothing to play for. Like, that's fun to watch, man. Like fun to watch Terry Smith. Hold those guys together. Get a dub this weekend. Continue to fight Katron Allen. Katron Allen passes who Brent, who did cater on Allen passed for most yards in the history of Penn State rushing 3,554 yards all time.

[Brent]

I mean, obviously Saquon, but Saquon played three years. My. I was going to go say Kajana Carter.

[Corey]

Saquon, he passed in the game. And then Evan Royster.

[Brent]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I would have never went there.

[Corey]

No, I didn't think so. I knew you'd say Saquon, but Saquon in three years, golly, you knew that dude was an absolute. Just Freaky Friday. Ridiculous.

[Brent]

And I don't think Johnna Carter, like he probably didn't have the early in the career stats.

[Corey]

Well, and keep in mind too, championship games, playoffs, the seasons are longer, so your stats are better. Like imagine Barry Sanders playing 17 games in a year. Buddy, that would have been stupid.

[Brent]

Very much so. All right. For Me, Pat Narduzzi, he made the comments about I don't care about Notre Dame. I don't care about whatever the score might be. I don't care as long as we win the next two. Were you to look pretty much like a fool if you did not want at least the first one and they got the first one. So if you're going to talk like that, back it up, have at it. Now you get your chance to play Miami and. And be sort of ultimate spoiler and potentially get yourself in the ACC championship game. So for me, Pat Norduzzi got it.

[Corey]

Grundle boy. I see LJ Martin 222 on the ground. He was phenomenal. He wasn't this.

[Brent]

He was CS all time for. For good BYU fans. The game was going on as we were doing our show. Like, the timing of it. We would have hit it all. You know, we talked a lot about it, but it was like a big difference. And it was going on as we were doing the show, so we just didn't get to it.

[Corey]

There's a lot of. A lot of L.J. martin, a lot of ground and pound. Wesley. Wesley, I see something spectacular coming from you. I just. I think it's going to be fantastic. What you got, brother? Why.

[Wesley]

Why are you yelling at me, bro? All right, I got the Mercer Bears. Mercer Bears winning the weekend, bro. 9 and 2 overall. Yeah, they got annihilated by Auburn, but who cares? Because they're so con champs. They're going to the playoffs. 9 and 2 overall this year. Bear down. That's all I got to say.

[Corey]

So. So Mercer lost by like 400 and you. And you just gave them that. They won the weekend.

[Brent]

Who cares?

[Kevin Harlan]

They're going.

[Wesley]

They're going there.

[Corey]

That's like Brent earlier, Mr. Numbers trying to tweak the number. Oh, yeah, but like the team that's winning, like, yeah, 20 year trend. Yeah, it's. It's the team that was leading. Yeah, Brent, that was it the whole time.

[Wesley]

They get. They get the buy. Look, I started my local news career in Macon, all right? And I was there when Mercer started its football program back up. This is a microscopic photo for some reason, but that is the program from their first football game after coming back in 2013. And look at him now, baby, going to the FCS playoffs.

[Corey]

Can you. Can you pull a clip later so we can hear it later in the week, too, of you. Of you doing one of those? That would be fantastic. Just.

[Wesley]

Oh, yeah, it sound like a chipmunk. Sound like Alison.

[Corey]

Is it crazy how much higher your voice is when you're younger. Like even in your 20s, late 20s, 30s. It's like you listen to that Reese Davis clip that we played when he came on. You're like, what happened to Reese? Like, his nuts just dropped that late. Like, seriously, I mean, goodness gracious. All right.

[Wesley]

Go Bears.

[Corey]

Wesley, no, no, no, Wesley, don't you leave, you. You know, if you don't know I'm going to do this to you, you're absolutely not the sharpest tool in shed. All right, tomorrow night, reactions. What we doing about Thanksgiving this week? We're not going to do the. We're not going to do Thanksgiving night probably, are we, or Thanksgiving Day or.

[Wesley]

Okay, no, we're not going to do that. But we are going to do the CFP reaction tomorrow, right? You're not traveling anywhere.

[Corey]

Nope.

[Wesley]

So we'll do that. We'll do our picks Wednesday and hopefully have a guest Wednesday night. So, yeah, we're not slowing down. We'll slow down Thursday for Thanksgiving. Even though you're bringing your own chips to the table or whatever you're doing.

[Corey]

Masa chips. Masa chips are the best chips in the world. Not fried. It's really, it's really just. They're good chips.

[Wesley]

All right. All right. But, yeah, but we'll be back.

[Corey]

We'll do Friday night.

[Wesley]

Yeah, obviously we got some reactions. We'll want to do Friday night and Saturday as well. So a lot of live fun here on cball. Get ball. Appreciate, Appreciate, y'.

[Corey]

All.

[Wesley]

You got anything else?

[Corey]

No. Bang, bang. Thank y'. All.

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