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Georgia-Tennessee, Clemson-Georgia Tech, Texas A&M-Notre Dame & MORE | College Football Week 3 Reactions
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Georgia-Tennessee, Clemson-Georgia Tech, Texas A&M-Notre Dame & MORE | College Football Week 3 Reactions 0:00 Florida-LSU 4:56 Vanderbilt-South Carolina 9:54 Arkansas-Ole Miss 14:28 USF-Miami 18:02 Clemson-Georgia Tech 25:40 Georgia-Tennessee 31:21 Texas A&M-Notre Dame 34:56 Oklahoma-Temple 37:56 UTEP-Texas 39:15 Wisconsin-Alabama 43:42 Villanova-Penn State 44:42 Oregon-Northwestern 46:40 Big 12 Run-through 49:20 Big-Picture Takeaways from Week 3 College Football analysis from CFB Hall-of-Famer, three-time First-Team All-American and First-Round NFL Draft Pick David Pollack and Scheme / Data Analyst Brent Rollins.
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Hi. We are back. The game just. Yeah, again, games are just closing, but man, I, I think we're in for this more and more every week. I really do, man. I think it's going to be a lot of shuffling, a lot of changing of opinions. Like you used to come into a season with an opinion. You're like, I'm sticking with it. And this is what, this is how I feel. And until otherwise. But I think we're starting to see early in the year, man, it's going to be crazy, especially in the sec, Florida and LSU wrapping up. LSU easily could have lost this game. Like, I'm very surprised at what I continue to see from LSU's offense because listen, I'm in sync. Yes, not in sync, not making big plays. Like, all I think about last year was Nussmeier and just the ability to make those plays and throw the ball on target and he's just not there yet with his guys. And I think obviously he can get there. But golly, man, Florida has a 90 yard touchdown called back and Florida, Florida destroyed them in this football game. I mean, if you want to talk about like from a statistical standpoint, I mean, yeah, you know 22 first downs to 10, 366 yards to 322. Like, but DJ Lagway, five interceptions, hit the nickel. Yes. And I wish I could say he throws some balls, Brent, that I, that I say, that's really good. Like, really good. But. But he also throws three or four, you know, a game that I said, what the heck is he doing? Like, right before the half in the double coverage on a checkdown, like, what? Yeah, what are we doing? And then he throws the corner out for a touchdown. You're like, my God, that's the best throw I've seen today. So too much, too much high and low with Florida and especially with DJ Lagway, he scrambled more, he took off and made plays, but Florida gave this game away. And it makes me think even more. Like, just week in and week out, it's going to be, it's going to be like this.
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And I wrote this sentence down to see if you could finish it. Lagway stares down wide receivers more than.
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Dot, dot, dot, more than college guys, still stare down sorority girls.
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There's so, there's so many fun ways that you could finish that sentence, but he just stares people down consistently and, you know, got like the Halsey interception early in the first half. That was a, that was a stare down interception. And it just. And I, I do wonder some of it is, is there lack of answers? Is it a one or two type read or. It just, it seems like there might not be as many answers for him offensively, but still it's not good.
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It definitely seems like that. It seems like it's motion and a couple motions and then some things to make him get like, look over here, look over here. All right, you're throwing here. He took off and scrambled a bunch, too, But Bonds balls got to be a bigger part of this game. He's just got, he's, he's too big, he's too strong. The running game's not good enough. Like, you know, the defense played their hearts out again and that just, you just feel like it's. I mean, at the time of possession, almost 40 to 20, for gosh sakes, it was 37 to 38 to 22. You know, like, it's just Florida's dominating the game, but just continue to make mistakes. And their mantra is pound the rock and hit him over the top. Right? But, but you got to make those plays. Like, because when you don't make those plays, Brent, now you're, now you're second and 10, you know, and then you're Consistently in a situation where you're, you're out of, you're not in a good distance. It's not third. Georgia was in third and short a ton. You know, like Tennessee's trying to get in third and short. They got to do a better job of getting in those situations where Lagway can take off. There is a run pass, opt to it or one pass element to it. The offense is definitely, you know, we talked about Napier and like, does he get rid of play calling duties?
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I mean, at this point he's pot committed, I think.
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Yeah, it's.
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I would say if you think about this game and what do you know? What do you definitively know after three weeks, I know that whatever LSU did in the secondary in the portal worked. Plus the addition of Pickett who got that. I think he was the one, the five star kid that. I think he got the last interception.
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Yeah, he was the corner, but, but starting to. How about like, you know, Whit Weeks get the, gets the targeting and so he doesn't like that call. He. No. God no. He's one of the best and he's one of the best players in college football, period. And then his brother goes down that plays linebacker. So they're out there, two starting linebackers and playing their freshman brother who's another linebacker and, and still able to hang on. And Brian Kelly's interview is kind of salty. I, I kind of like that. But let's go next, man. Let's go to Pavi and company. Good lord. I mean I, I know there's a big, there's a big asterisk with this because of. Just because Lenora Sellers and obviously being as good as he is and getting knocked out early in the game. But I still think Vanderbilt, you know, here's, here's my, here's my, here's my assertion of their offense. Here's how I would describe their offense. Death by a thousand cuts. Just a thousand cuts, man. And, and Pavia buying time and rolling and throwing and rolling and throwing an option. Like you just want to slap him. Like from a defensive perspective, I'm like, bro, you're annoying as piss. Like. And then they get another first down. But I think there's one difference between this year's team and last year's team. Not only is actually there's two differences. One, the defense is better. The defense can actually make plays this year. Last year they couldn't stop a nosebleed. And two, I think having Richardson out wide, a legit speed guy, like, now they got somebody that. Yeah, go ahead and play, man. Because we do so much of this stuff around the line of scrimmage and make you commit so much number. So many numbers you keep creeping up. And Richardson's got some speed now. Like he can. He can run by you. So them with. We've talked about Stower and we, we talked about Alexander, but man, they played physical. They played good.
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Little man, 41.
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Yes.
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Lassiter, give me some Sprouls vibes, bro.
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And he is little. He is lift. He's listed at like 58150.
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I think 190.
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I saw one night. Yeah. Okay. So that means he's 561-51- yeah, probably one. But I mean literally, Scooter. Oh, he can roll.
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And that's. And that's to me when you said what's the biggest difference between their team this year and last year? It's the explosiveness. Others they get backed up third and 21 and it's a laser throw from Pavia to Stowers for first down. Then they get the. The late hit that. That puts them even further down. They go score that I. Vandy is anchor down right. Isn't that their. Isn't that their thing?
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That's the thing.
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Yeah, they are. They're rolling. And that non zero chance that I kept talking about earlier in the season, just how efficient they are offensively and just all the wrinkles that they've now. And Cole Cubic was with us on Wednesday talked about how. Just all the wrinkles that they've added to what they can do. Yeah, it makes the efficiency of their offense just go through the roof.
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What else did he talk about? He talked about the Pavia fade away. And you saw it with 111 left in the third. Stupid, stupid play. Like 21 to 7. South Carolina's been out there. Quarter that is Lenore Sellers hadn't played the second half. Like you kick a field goal, they're mathematically eliminated. And he throws it right to a defender in the end zone and makes the bad play. But no, I think Clark Lee deserves a ton of credit to the way they run it, the way they run the clock, the way they use their guys. Like they're just trying to shorten the game, man. They're trying to shorten the game as much as possible. They know they don't have the talent to go out there and beat, you know, just line and beat everybody up. And then they, they keep their defense fresh. They can be aggressive. They can get in the backfield a little bit, make some plays. They force turnovers with their defense. With that offense you might not touch the football again like and you went into South Carolina. That's a, that's a hard place to play, man. Like that's a hard, hard place to play. Interesting where you put South Carolina now because as much as you didn't like what you saw from them to begin with to start the season now, you know, not having Sellers run game just continues to really struggle. Defense didn't, didn't play real great. Tonight's the first offense they've played that was, that was pretty good too. But I feel like South Carolina is very similar to what I thought they would be coming in the season. What we kind of talked about like middle of the pack gonna have to find some, some more playmakers and gonna have to get healthy obviously very much.
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Now look at, let's look at Vanderbilt schedule right quick. Georgia State next week at home. Utah State the following week at home. So that would be 5, 0 potentially going to Tuscaloosa.
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To exact some revenge.
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I mean that's, that's, that, that's, that's something that, that's going to, they're going to be fun to watch.
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You can't put South Carolina where you put them in the rankings and then not reward. You know Vanderbilt, they're top 20. Yeah, they should be. But yeah, just like this past week when you, your resume was technically better than South Carolina's at this point too, you still weren't ahead of them.
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So I said they only had one vote. So maybe they, maybe they squeak in at 25.
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Potentially squeak in. They deserve, they deserve to be in for sure.
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Texas Georgia Tech and we'll talk about them in a little bit. There'll be another team there, another team that might move up. Which question of the night by the way for me. Did Austin Simmons get Wally Pipped? Because Trinidad Shambliss of D2 Ferris State.
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Transfer realm national champion at Ferris State.
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Absolutely balled out for ole miss.
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Yeah.
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21 of 29. 353 touchdown and then two 62 yards and two touchdowns running.
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Yeah, that was the biggest thing. He was running all over the place too. And he's not the biggest of guys.
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Six foot, I think 200 pound kid.
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Was Lou Gehrig the first baseman that got, that got Wally Pipped or that. Is that where that came from?
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Who was the first? Exactly. Yeah. Lou Geh took over and never. And never sat.
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Never heard from Wally Pip ever again. No, he did not. Ole Miss. This is what Lane Kiffin does and this Is this is why you love having Lane Kiffin as your coach, is just. He can coach up whoever's there on the offensive side of the football. Like, he's just so good. And listen, Arkansas, okay, we've seen enough to know they can't stop a nosebleed. Now, like, that was. That was such fool's gold. The two games that they had versus inferior opponents. That was. That was really bad, man. They gave up 63 to Ole Miss a year ago, and then they were very much on their way to doing it again. Like, I mean, they've just got to get better. Listen, I'm not saying Trinidad's not a good player and he's not going to prove to be a good player, but that there was very little resistance. That was very easy. Great job by Ole Miss. I. Ole misses defense was getting carved up, too. And in Arkansas and Taylor Green, we talked about him going in the game and we talked about Mike the running back, too. I mean, we talked about all of them like this.
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I thought he got one more touches. The Washington kid. My Washington for Arkansas running back.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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He went well. He was negative. His first carry, and then he goes 47 and makes plays. But like, so much of the Arkansas offense is the Reed game, and Taylor just pulls it a lot. And listen, he does damage with it. Like, he absolutely. He can get out and strike. You know, he's. You know, he gives me vibes of. By the way, let's go.
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Who you got?
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He's a little thicker. Colin Kaepernick, like, taller.
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A little bit taller, little bit taller.
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Long strides, eats up speed, like, really, really quickly.
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Long throw, longer throwing motion, long throwing motion.
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Makes those couple plays. A game that you're like, what the fudge are you doing? Like, where was that supposed to go? But then, you know, can also improvise and. And make things happen. But Arkansas, another team that. Because they can score so much, man, like, that's.
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They're going to get somebody. They're going to get.
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Yeah, they're going to get somebody for sure.
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So Notre Dame just scored, and I didn't see, like, if they went for.
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Jeremiah Love touchdown run.
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Yeah, if they went for two or they just. Something happened, but they didn't get the extra point. So they were up 40 to 34 with 253 remaining. And as that game kind of comes to a close, one thought that we talked about earlier in the week was how much Texas A and M was throwing the ball. And you're like, hey, I thought they were going to be A ground and pound team and then do that. I think they just think those two guys are their best players, and we got to throw the ball a lot and get them. Get them the ball. And Concepcion and Craver, because they're really.
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Good, and those dudes are so electric, man. Like, they're so dynamic with the ball in their hands. I, you know, I think that first of all, let's give Marcel Reed credit, too. And if. If we had no preconceived notions about what he used to be, like, what he was a year ago, Brent, I think we'd be staring at him going, that dude's really, really good. Like, balls coming out on time. He's given those guys a chance to make plays with it, too. Hitting him in holes like he missed a couple of deep balls that really would have even padded his stats even more. But my gosh, I think I had him down at the half. What did I have him? He had. He had. At halftime, he was like. I mean, he had 200, almost 300 yards passing at the half and just making big play after big play to conceptual Concepcion and Craver.
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So it's which, by the way, they A and M. He returned the kick for a touchdown, but there was a holding penalty.
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Oh, that's unfortunate. Hey, so they got to drop the biggest thing. The biggest thing. Watching Notre Dame and A and M, it makes me think of, like, how good is Miami?
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Def have the best resume and you kind of went, yeah, they kind of do.
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I mean, they did.
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Does Miami now have the best resume in college football? And are they, are they the number one slash one A team for you? Canes, Cats, Heat. It's in the chat. Definitely feels like Miami is number one. I mean, what do you think?
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I can get down with that. Like, you know, Ohio State struggled and looked very human. Texas continues to be very unimpressive. Clemson unimpressive. So that makes LSU not look as good. And LSU honestly didn't look that impressive versus Florida. The Canes looked extremely dominant in spurts against Notre Dame. Like they made their lines of scrimmage. Notre Dame's not look very good. And Now A&M's like, okay, well this is, this is. They're not. A and M is not doing that to them. So I mean, where do you look at with, with Miami and say there's not an answer to them? I mean, they, today was another day, new receivers involved. It's okay. Like it didn't matter. I mean, because we've already, we've already talked about Daniels and Tony, you know, and just, I think it's, it's a really good football team. There's still the stigma of, of Miami and their big time games and big time wins. But what they did early in the season and what they've done so far, beating a really good USF team and they spanked them and then beating up on Notre Dame, they didn't, they didn't beat Notre Dame senseless, but it was a convict convinced convincing win until the last little bit when Notre Dame came back and obviously, you know, made it a football game. But I think Miami's proven they're probably right now. They, they have the best resume and have been the best team so far.
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So I have a thought on that. When you, when you mentioned the. There's still hesitancy and a lot of that comes with crystal ball and, and sort of past experience with him. I actually think Carson Beck is the perfect quarterback for him because of his general. He's generally a risk averse player. Yeah, he's a hyper, intelligent player that is typically going to get you into the right situation and he's not gonna, he's not going to get you beat. Typically. Typically. Now last year was a different scenario with some of the games in Georgia, but for the most part, well what.
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You is to do consistently too right.
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Then he doesn't have to. But just in terms of pairing him with that head coach, to me it seems like an actual, you know that I think that's a perfect pairing to lead his team with how he plays in which by the way now Miami gets Florida I think next week and then the week after, maybe two weeks after that I think is what it is that, that they get fsu. Let me see. Make sure I'm right on that. Yeah, yeah. So it's the 20th. So next week they get, they get Florida which by the way, if you're a Florida fan now you got to go, you got to go to Miami and then two weeks later at Florida State. Like that's going to end up being potentially a top five matchup barring Florida State laying an egg. I think at Virginia that they have.
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Which Virginia has been a very improved football team. I mean credit to, credit to Virginia, Tony Elliott, credit to their, their, their organization to investing in transfer portals, investing in nil and like they're scoring points and they've been a lot more entertaining than they've been. But you want to go to the upset of the day with, with Georgia Tech and Clemson because that was, we.
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Can hit that because that was a pretty big one. Well, I mean actually in terms of like it was a three and a half, I think spread point spread, but was still definitely an upset.
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It was, it was an upset. Listen, nobody, nobody looked at Clemson and what they've done so far and think Clemson's elite by any stretch, but you still see the pieces and they should be better than they are. Can they come out and start fast? Can they play their best game? And the answer was no. I mean they couldn't. And it's interesting because it's, it was always something with them like whether it's Wesco dropping a pass in a big moment, whether it's Clubnik fumbling, whether it's Club Nick throwing interception like throughout the first part of the season, man, it's just taking turns. Like what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the one thing you've said about Clemson that is just so dominant and so great? Even the defenses have had laps and the offense has put them in bad spots pretty consistently. But I think it's that they've got to put a game together. It feels like kind of like Georgia like a year ago when they kept like they, they couldn't put a full game together. They, they couldn't put offense, defense and good players showing up at the same time and supporting Cash showing up. And, and Clemson's, Clemson's in some trouble, man. They got, they got to figure out a lot of things really, really quickly and their best player has to be Cade Klubnick. And their best player from last year, Cade Clubnik and the way he finished, man, gave Clemson fans a lot of hope and gave me a lot of hope to go. He takes that next step with those weapons, with all the offensive line experience. Same offensive coordinator in that league like Cade Clubnik goes from really, really good to I'm going to go win a Heisman Trophy. And he has not done that. It's been a regression. It's been, it's been a backwards, you know, he's been going down the escalator the wrong direction.
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So minute 11 left, Texas A and M's got second down. I think they're on like the 20 something yard line trying to, trying to score, go in and kick an extra point and win. Tech though from their perspective when Haynes King plays and when he is his normal self, they're a threat to beat anybody just because of how well he runs their offense, how well they control the football with him. The way they use Hayne, Jamal Haynes and then the Rutherford Kid, Rivers and then Rivers now added to it, they got all of Them like they have all these guys that can, can go make plays and go do things with the ball in their hands and with he's. When he's there, they got a shot. And I think that was one of the things that I was very bullish on them begin the season was because if he wasn't there, I had confidence in Aaron Philo playing and playing competently for them. And that makes me think that their kind of in it for the long haul with the ACC and potentially putting themselves in a position to, to be in the ace, you know, an ACC championship game type contender.
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Yeah. And I think we're ready to say too, the ACC is a heck of a lot better than we thought they were. I mean I think that's apparently clear abundantly.
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At least not as, not as one and then a drop. I thought you kind of thought it was one drop off.
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And then for the season, how many people put two playoff team, two ACC teams in the playoffs? You Very, very few. I'm just saying. Very, very few, Very few were thinking along those lines. And so the league is definitely much improved. But Georgia Tech, Haynes King is the trump card. His experience, the way he runs the football with speed, with athletic ability, but most importantly with cuts and patience like setting up blocks and then he sees and buys time, gets rid of the football. And he's not a great thrower of the football, but he's just good enough like to make those couple plays a game. And the problem's always going to be can we keep him healthy? Because he's going to run the football hard, just like on the goal line. He's going to run it down people's throats. He's going to truck a safety on fourth down if he needs to. And so he's the, he's my favorite player in college football right now. I mean, I just love the way. Did you see him on game day this morning too doing the interview? Yeah, he was doing the interview with the guys while he was warming up like ab man, all business like. And he talked about his dad called him a sissy growing up, saying he wasn't tough but just crazy because I mean. And here's, here's where I'll give Clemson credit again a little bit. Like they look lost, they looked out of it and they figured it out again. But like at some point we got to do that to start the football game. The biggest play of the game for Clemson to get back in, it was. There's five minutes left in the half, it's 13 to nothing. Tech. This game's about to be pretty over. And then what happens? They run a draw on third and 22. Randall bust loose and goes for 23. They go down the field, score. Clemson moves the ball right back down the field again about the score to take the lead and they throw the big pick in the end zone. So club Nick fumbles, you know, first possession, club first possession. The second half throws the interception like that. That's the guy that I'm depending on to carry my team and to make me take that next step. And instead we're shooting ourselves in the foot. And Wesco deserves blame for the third down drop where they have to punt like there's, there's plenty of blame to, to spread around for, for Clemson but.
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You know, they got to find something fast like.
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Yeah.
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Or they're going to find themselves completely and utterly out of any playoff and anything picture. All right, it looks like we had the snap, kind of went off the center's hind end. We're second and 11 at the 15 yard line, 54 seconds, Notre Dame or Texas A. And I'm trying to go in and Notre Dame was kicking the extra point and the guy dropped a snap. I just, they just showed a replay. So speaking of the Tech Clemson game though, how much did you enjoy listening to the replay guys on the broadcast?
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I thought it was really cool when he and Brent's talking about the, the officials were doing the replay and they, they literally talked you through it. So you heard that they let you.
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Listen to what their conversation was going.
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Yeah, the refs talked about it and they like, well, talk about this. Show me this angle. Show, show me this angle. Hey, they didn't do this, they didn't do that. I think it's something that I'd want to hear sometimes. I don't want to hear it all the time. I don't want to hear it for every review. But I do want to hear it for some of the big reviews and some of the ones that were really confusing because you get inside the thought process, which is always cool. And listen, the more transparency we have in the football game, like with the targeting, I would love to hear some of that. What's that conversation sound like? That would be exactly. Really, really cool.
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That's a great point because you didn't get that in that game.
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You didn't know. No. And the ACC is the first one to let you do it. So maybe, maybe that's something that now it leads itself to other, other folks allowing it to happen as well. But I thought it was pretty, I thought it was pretty cool. I don't want to hear for a whole game though.
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I was going to say big calls or touchdown type calls, turnovers, things like that. I think that would be targeting in the end.
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Or in college. But like the NFL, I've always been shocked that the NFL doesn't do that and let you in on that. That process a M is kind of going the wrong way. 3rd and 16 big time. Throw another penalty flag late. So who knows what that is. Let's see some other parts for the day.
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Yeah, I mean, I think UGA was pretty big one that I was getting.
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Ready to go is. You know, we talked about or. Last year we had the sort of game of the year early on with Georgia and Alabama, the back and forth, late scores, all that sort of stuff. And you get it again with Georgia at Tennessee. Unreal game, Unreal performance from Gunner Stockton. College kickers, you can't trust them ever, unfortunately. It's just part of. It's part of life as. As a college football fan. But it was. It was a phenomenal game. Georgia was down 21 7. I, by the way, that was one of the things for me in this. In this game come or coming into this game, I didn't think Georgia could play from behind. And luckily it was early enough that they could kind of get settled back into the game.
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But, well, their offense came to play regardless. I mean, their offense was. Their offense was super impressive and gunner stock coming into the game. The first thing we said was, I know what Georgia's defense is and more importantly, I know the history of hypo versus Kirby. Like 39 points a game. We talked about the other day. 39 points a game in every game. 14 points a game in Kirby. Now the interesting thing about that was that they always started fast. That was. That's. That's been a thing every time they've been up in every single game in the first quarter. Yeah, like that's. That's a normal thing. And they come out the gates on fire. Like they, they jump out the gates. Joey Aguilar goes 16 or 14 or 14 to start the game.
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Like, yeah, right at 200 yards.
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I think that is crazy. 215 yards, two touchdowns, like, doing what he wants. Georgia. You know, I was watching Georgia secondary and just the way they were playing, they were flirting with. With three high safeties. You could tell they were trying to figure out what the fronts. They were flirting with a tight front, like four down, like they're trying to. They were trying to do some different things to make it hard on Tennessee, but bam, bam, bam. Move the football. Gunner gets down. Worst thing that could happen in one of the best atmospheres in all of college football. And that offense is from behind. Like, Tennessee had them exactly right where they needed to have them to win the football game. And then Gunner said, hold my beer. Like he absolutely was. Was on. He was incredible. I mean, he was really, really good. But the offense was very well orchestrated. All the bobo haters. You got to hop off for a week, bro. You got to hop way off. Because the way he's using the screen game, the way he incorporated the run game, like, you know, Georgia really, Georgia's offense really kicked it in gear. And it was the drive that made.
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Me go manage the offensive tackles, the right line situation, manage that.
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The thing that made me go, this is Georgia start the second half. Man, 13, 13 of the 14 plays of an eight minute drive to start were runs. And I'm like, I remember that team. That's the team that won national championships. That's the team that said, I'm going to line up and punch you right between the eyeballs. You can eat it. Like you know what we're doing. We'll do it in different ways. And they did a good job of using Branch as a decoy and flipping it and using all the different backs to do the, to do the, to do a good enough job of disguising where they were going. But that was impressive to watch them and then to watch them come up, you know, clutch. But, but you're right, that. And did you see Julie after the game that actually showed he was bawling like it.
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So he knew what he did mattered.
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Yes. So it's important to understand, like this was a back and forth game. Like Tennessee got up 21 to 7. Fireworks, 28 points in the, in the first quarter. It was crazy. Then it slowed down. Georgia takes the lead. First possession in third quarter. Tennessee takes it back. Georgia takes it back. Tennessee takes like back and forth, back and forth. And then, you know, Georgia was in a position where they were down eight points and they had to put a drive together and get a two point conversion. And their right side of their line are both backups and maybe the triple backup on the, on the right side. And here's. He's getting beat very badly. I'm not going to even say his name. Like he was getting beat, like he stole something. I mean it was just, it was a turnstile. Gunner was getting jacked and they put in Hughley, they put in five, five. And he comes, he comes in and he absolutely settles it down. And they go down the field and on 4th and 6, Gunner makes the play, he makes the play to throw the ball down the field to Humphreys, drops it in a bucket over his shoulders, you know, 20 plus yard throw. They score, get the two point conversion and then tell the people what happened because it was. I'm not, I'm going to, I'm Going to be nice. I'm going to stay away from the kickers. Hypo and company did exactly what they're supposed to do, exactly what they're supposed to do. And they, it didn't happen. They relied on a kicker, move the ball down the field. Hey, maybe ran one too many plays because they jump off sides right before they attempt to just try a game winning field goal. That was like 40 something yards and it never had a chance. As soon as it left the foot, it was, it was far right. And then you go into overtime and then Georgia holds them to a field goal and then Georgia scores, you know, a touchdown and just missed opportunity for Tennessee. That, that's what I'll say. Because I feel like Kirby, you can. Kirby standard after his voice. Yeah, you could hear it in his voice and you could like they, they played better. Tennessee did enough to win. Florida did enough to win today. Like that's, that's the way this thing, this thing's going to continue to work. Whoever continues to make the mistakes, you know, you're going to, you're going to continue to pay for it because the talent gap is not big with anybody anymore, bro. Like, it's just not.
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A and M just scored.
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I see the, the big eyeballs.
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I thought there was a hold, massive.
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Hold, but stop being a hater.
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87 just caught a touchdown. The tight end for A and M. He just threw it up and he boxed him out and made the play.
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Boxed him out, did exactly what he's supposed to do.
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Now it's going to be. Marcus Freeman is on his knees kind of beside himself because all they got to do is make an extra point.
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Well, that's all they had to do was make theirs too. Yes, but that's just. That is. That is clutch. And listen, Marcel Reed has been awesome. I've seen some good from CJ Carr too. But Marcel Reed, and we talked about with Craver and with Conception, like it's going to be a dink and dunk, it's going to be an rpo, it's going to be bubble palooza and it's, it's a very hard offense to stop because he is, he's got poise, he's got athletic ability. You know, it's coming up big in a big moment too. That doesn't do nothing but help build your confidence. Like. And Notre Dame is on the other side of that now because we talked about this coming into the game. This kind of gets A and M going and this starts their season where Notre Dame and What they have on the schedule, it's not good. And I tell you what, C.J. carr now in a couple of games has come up with some, with some big mistakes like, and not all his fault, but like he had a throw over the middle again today. That was, it was just late and it was indecisive and he throws a pick and A and M, you know, makes him take advantage of. But here's what I'll say about A and M in this game, Brent. They got down early. They, they get a punt block the very first possession of the game. It goes for a touchdown.
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They get running it on him.
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They get stopped right away. Notre Dame's running on them. Everything looked really, really bad. And Marcel Reed and company, they just stayed quiet. They stayed calm. They stayed calm.
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I'm not a hater. 71 for a straight tackled the kid for Notre Dame, he got beat. He grabbed his leg and literally pulled him down.
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They're going to say that, they're going to say that happens on every play.
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Every play. Not that, not like that.
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No. But, but I was impressed the way A M kept answering, kept answering, kept answering because Notre Dame consistently aggressive, stay.
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Aggressive all throughout the game. That was probably the most impressive thing watching the game. But think about the SEC teams right now, by the way, and this is one where I was going to kind of look at a lot of these different teams. Where in these conferences are they like do you think of them as actual contender slash disruptors. But just in the SEC, MO 3 and oh, with Ahmad Hardy leading college football and yards rushing yards by probably a wide margin now after 250something today.
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He'S, he's a baller like his lower half playing awesome. His, his lower half. Hardy, like that's a grown ace man to tackle. And, and, and then you got Prabula and obviously you got more than that there too. You saw last week with the two headed monster at running back and then Probula can run when he wants to, but that's.
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So you got Missouri 3, 0. Who's.
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The best team in the SEC?
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Oh, that's a, that's a million dollar question right now because I think. I don't know that it's. I couldn't point to anyone. LSU obviously has the win at Clemson, but Georgia's win today at Tennessee kind of gets there, gets them there. I. LSU like Georgia, like you can't say Texas right now because they're playing.
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Are you really not going to name Oklahoma?
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That, that was like. But because they're one of those teams, Oklahoma, Missouri, Vanderbilt, A and M now.
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That are just Auburn.
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All these teams are three.
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And I'm not doing all that crap. You can do all that crap if you want to. Like I'm, I'm going to take Oklahoma as the team that, you know what Oklahoma was today. Oklahoma put their suit on with their cufflinks, went to work and did something they needed to do. They knew Auburn was in the future. They knew Michigan was behind them. Like, but the fact that that's, that's called a grown up win. That's an adult win and they've got an adult quarterback that I know exactly what I'm going to get every week from. And it's not good. It's fricking great. Like he is that dude. And so I just, I find it hard to believe that they're not the best team so far from what I've seen, you know, in the sec. And I'm betting on moving forward. Missouri is not far from the top of that list either, man. Like that's, that's quite crazy and weird to say. And hey, will you pull up their schedule?
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Yeah. Because they don't leave the state of Missouri until a good long while from now.
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And I like the chat as soon as we say this. Oklahoma hasn't proven any, proven anything. Oklahoma's, you know, they, they haven't done anything yet. Like Michigan wins a pretty good win.
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And then they're going to end up being a pretty good win too.
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Yeah. And they're going to have, they're going to have more opportunities to, to do it. But I just, I trust Mater. I trust Venables and that defense to be a, a pain in people's butt and make people earn it and make. They're going to make big plays and they'll give Mater other options. They're not a sieve, they're not a hole back there that's not going to make plays like they're going to make. They're going to get sacks and TFLs and interceptions and cause fumbles. Like they're going to be a havoc defense that gives more cracks to the apple back at Matier and he's going to crack your jaw because he's going to continue to make plays. So.
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All right, let's, let's look at their, let's look at Oklahoma schedule.
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There's a number next to everybody they.
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Play in the sec that is. Yes, but, but next week. Talk about big game now. Jackson Arnold coming back to town hosting auburn. He's also 30 and like that's as big as it gets for them now. Then they get Kent, Kent State after then this Red river, which. How do Texas fans feel about Red river right now? They're probably a little, A little on edge.
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You better be.
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By the way. Let's, let's hit that real quick. How are you worried about Arch and their offense and what they look like and what he looks like? Is it time to like press the panic button a little bit or no.
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How can you not be? Just looks odd. You can't tell me you're watching that going like Quinn years was the problem. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like he doesn't look right. Like if you go watch like Mississippi State last year and how he's throwing the ball versus whatever that is that he's looks like right now, it doesn't look right. And then obviously start got. Got very, very clapped back and you know.
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Well, actually when you get defensive, it's for a reason. But they don't look right. They're not running the ball great. They're not making plays. He ran the ball good today, which is, which is why they won. Now listen, their defense, their decent, their defense is still going to keep them in every game. I mean, their defense is good, man. Like, they're. What they did to Ohio State shows you everything you need to know because Ohio State is going to be a top five offense in all of college football and somebody you don't want to play. So no, there's definitely nothing, there's nothing about Texas that I've seen that goes, ooh, that commands my respect. And I'm saying they're one of the best teams in the country now. Can I shift to somebody else in the sec? That look pretty. Dag, I'm good. All those tape guys, those tape guys, those truth tellers, those ball knowers. Bama's done. Bama sucks. How's that working out for you? How much bad week. They had a bad week. I get it. Like, and they deserve to be hated on week one. But like last week and then watching Ty Simpson, I mean, hello, Ryan Williams. Which is what we talked about on this show. Like, if that comes back, watch the freak out because that becomes. Because Bernard's an animal. Like five's an animal. If you're not watching him, like, they'll hand it to him on the, on fourth and goal like they did today against Wisconsin and he'll make a play like thick build, running back great after the catch. But, but I saw the last two weeks and Wisconsin pressured Simpson A good bit. So don't tell me, you know, last week I'll take that away. But this week, Brent, you good feet less panicky. You know, Week one fsu, there it was. It was a little bit like he had too much ADD medicine like jitters. Yes, he was a little bit all over the place, but I think he went 30 of 31 in a stretch, something like that in the last two weeks. That was his. That was a stretch he had of competing passes and then a lot of drops. He. He's accurate.
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He's very. Especially in the middle of the field crossing type routes like that get you yak.
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They got some. And they got very accurate. They got some sacks today which was good. Four sacks. They had two sacks through two games. The defensive line looked. Looked better. You know, they're going to get healthier. They're going to get healthier the next couple weeks too. After this bye week for Georgia. They'll get, they'll get their running back back, Jam Miller, they'll get Keenan back on the defensive line who's a start. They're starting nose like they're going to. They're going to get better. And all those people that just. Oh man, look how pathetic this is and look how awful this is. Like you're going to have that week to week during this college football season. You're going to have like you're going to have when you don't have the good stuff and you're going to get beat.
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How much do you think that they were sitting there watching the Georgia Tennessee game and thinking, are we about to put up yards upon yards upon yards throwing the ball?
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Yeah. The one thing I'll say about them is their protection is not elite by any stretch and their run game is not elite. I'll be very interested to watch Kirby versus versus Grub and the offense and how what he comes up with because he's really good against, you know, quarterbacks like Ty Simpson. You know, he's just, he's very good at structuring a defense to, to make you do things that are uncomfortable. Now I'll say this too. I don't think ties to the point where he's going to go one to two to three and make you pay. You know, fourth down and short today he had a corner route that he missed wide open because it wasn't in his progression. Like. And that's part of being a guy that's starting for the first time. Right. Like he's going to continue to evolve and continue to grow. But you know I think the Bernard and Williams, God, just Williams is. He's just different man. Like he's just not. He doesn't move like a human. I mean when he catches the ball on the sideline and just turns and goes like he just. He can. He can plant at a different rate than everyone else, let's put it like that.
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And yeah, the stop on the dime on the sideline was stupid.
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It's stupid. Like you're not supposed to be able to do that. You're not supposed to be able to move your body like that. So I don't think Bama's like, I don't think Bama's elite. But if you're. If you're going to talk about teams that are. That we've seen so far and I mean I don't see a lot of elite everywhere across the board in this sport. So I'm not ready to bury Bama yet. Like a lot of the people are. When they show you some hustle tapes, when I can show you that from every single team.
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It's quite fitting that the documentary was named any given Saturday because in the SEC right now it's. It's pretty much that I, I don't. Like I said, I don't see a team that is gonna not be. Now we talked earlier about Missouri and you were talking about Missouri schedule. They get South Carolina at home next week who might, may or may not be without Lenora Sellers. Then they get UMass at home. Then they have a buy. Then they get Bama at home and then there's some ads and you know, a lot, A lot of. A lot of. A lot of teams there. But that's. That's what's going to be even more fascinating with all this stuff is you're gonna. After week five or six, you're gonna have a bunch of four and two, five and one type teams and then they're gonna all start playing each other.
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Yeah.
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And. And that's when it's gonna. And we might end up with 10 teams. Be 8 and 4. Did you see the. All time that I'm sure will possibly lead bad beats with svp? The Penn State game in the very last play of the game that. That got who I can't even. Villanova was who they played that they got the COVID Did you see the play?
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I didn't see the play but I saw it was the last play.
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Yeah. QB runs around like crazy.
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40 something to nothing, right.
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52 to nothing QB they scored on the very last played like back of the End zone, crazy grab, all time. You know, nice little bad beat there for svp. So. But Penn State, you know, they eventually got rolling again. Oregon about.
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A
Say, we haven't even talked about Oregon. And I, I can say this because I watched the Oklahoma State game last week, too. And then watching today, like, they're. They're freaking good. I mean, they're.
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B
And, And I like Dante more a lot, by the way.
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A
Well, more is more seems. I always draw, like, lines in my head and compare people. He reminds me of C.J. stroud. Like, he's got like a. A quiet demeanor, a nice flip of the wrist. Doesn't seem like anything's too big. Got a really good arm. Now, we haven't seen that tried at Penn at Beaver Stadium. You know what I'm saying? Like, we haven't seen that in a big moment. But. But yeah, they look really, really good. And there's, you know, that's a, that's a team that lost, what, 16, 17 starters from a year ago and just, you know, Evan Stewart went down. You're like, okay, who's going to be the weapons? And then the court, really good.
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B
The freshman number one.
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Yeah, I mean, and they're secondary. I haven't seen them, you know, tested yet. And obviously, you know, we'll get a good taste of that down the road. But they definitely look like a. And I don't see, like, Purdue. You watch them today against USC and you're like, yeah, that's just, that's not going to challenge you. There's not a lot of teams that are going to. Are going to challenge. And so it's going to be interesting to see, you know, what we do with the uscs and what we do with a lot of those Big Ten schools. Michigan, Like, I think Michigan's going to get a ton of dubs, like a ton of dubs. And then how that stacks up with a bunch of teams that are, I think, are going to beat themselves up.
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B
And that'll be one game next week we get to sort of pay attention to. Because they have to go to Nebraska.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Who's 3.0as well.
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Taking care of business.
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B
Another 30 team that struggled a little bit early and then finally scored 28 points in the second half. Took care of business. Was our something's brewing team of the week. Utah Utes Dampier finally got rolling. So they, they set up that matchup next week because I think they got the big noon game next week against Texas Tech.
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A
Yeah, they scored three points in the first half.
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B
Yes, they're really struggling.
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A
I saw, I saw Damp here fumble the ball right through his hands, pick it up, run around and then throw a touchdown like I was your, your, your, your. Pff. Grading that you do would have been like a turnover worthy play with a big time throw, you know, like just.
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B
All at the same, all in the.
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A
Same thing in the same play. But it's, I mean, what did we really learn? Dampier had to throw the ball 41 times, which is not what you probably would think. That's not what they're, that's not what they're about. He was their leading rusher too. And so I think that, that, that going throughout a sustainability throughout a whole season is probably not what they want to be. But at some point you also go, whatever it takes, I got to do.
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B
All right, Big 12 in general. So you got Texas Tech that's rolling 45 15. They won 4515 Overegon State today, who is winless. Unfortunately, Iowa State survives Arkansas State 24 to 16. But the other part of that is a couple teams that won on Friday night. Arizona and Houston about say now 3, 0.
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A
How about Houston? I remember when Bear mentioned Houston for turnarounds when he, when he talked about like the over unders, he was like, I think I'm gonna take Houston in the over. I'm like, why? He was like, I don't really know. And I was like, oh, okay. Sweet.
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B
Connor Wegman running the ball, by the way. Had like 75 yards running, I think.
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A
Well, he, and he's, he's, he's shown you some flashes of some good stuff. I mean you've seen that before. But yeah, that's, that's pretty fascinating. Noah Fafida for Arizona. Like Iowa State or. Excuse me, Kansas State went to Ireland and they didn't come back apparently. Like they just, they just stayed over there. They must have, they must have enjoyed the pubs there a little too much and got. But must have gotten intoxicated or something, bro. And just.
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B
Or the body clock is still yet to adjust. It's crazy. It is. Say something. If you lose in Ireland, what it does to your, to the rest of your season after what Florida State did a season ago, losing an island, which by the way, do you realize, I don't know, that wasn't a conference game that they lost to Arizona. It was like it was a non conference game. But ain't that stupid?
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A
That, that's like, that's just stupid. I know the conferences weren't formed yet. Just make it a conference game. Like what the freak are we doing? Like more weirdness in college football that I just. I don't even understand why we have to do that stuff. But.
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B
All right, so big picture takeaways. We had when we did our sort of championship game picks. We'll start with the Big 12. Since we just talked to them. I think we had Arizona State. I think I had Baylor.
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A
Would.
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B
I can't remember. You had Arizona State, and I can't remember who you put in there with them. Maybe Utah. So would you redo any of those picks at this point in time? Three weeks in?
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No.
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B
Still feeling good there.
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A
I mean, I. I just also not going to pull it. I'm not going to redo if I don't have to. Like Clemson. Yes. I'm out.
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B
Okay. So acc. I had Clemson and Georgia Tech. I'm going to put Georgia. I'm going to keep Georgia Tech in that spot just because I like what they got coming up. Outside of that, it's whoever wins Miami Florida Stadium game.
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A
Yeah. Now I'd go Miami and Florida State if you were asking me to pick the two that I would. That I would think would meet up and do well.
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B
I think Florida State plays Clemson, but Miami doesn't if I'm not. Yes, correct. So that's. That's one. But are you worried about that?
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A
Are you worried about that now?
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B
Not really. But I mean, at some point down the road they might get. All right. SEC championship game. We had. I think we both had Texas and Alabama.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Would you switch that?
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Geez, I don't. I don't. I really don't know what to. I mean, I'd put Oklahoma in there. Like, if you made me. If you made me pick right now, I'd take Oklahoma. Like, I would say Oklahoma and. Oh, geez.
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By the way, the fact that you have what you really have to think about to just think who might be in the SEC Championship.
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You know what? Just for funsies and for shoots and giggles, Oklahoma and Missouri would be fantastic.
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Like old school Big Eight game.
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Yes. Oklahoma and Missouri would be. Would be absolutely fantastic. That'd be a good one to put because it very well could happen. It absolutely could happen.
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That wouldn't be very southeastern of a championship.
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No.
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Big Ten. I don't think anything's really much changed in the Big Ten. It's still three teams and we get. In two weeks, right? Two weeks. We get to see Penn State, Oregon.
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Oregon. Yeah. Which will be awesome.
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That was a great day. College football.
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That was a great day.
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I mean, just think, just Think about the windows.
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I'm exhausted from watching college football right now.
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Like, it was just Clemson, George attacking that noon window. Georgia, Tennessee in the middle window. And then all those games in the late window, like A M and Notre Dame there was. Was good.
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Ole Miss, Arkansas, I mean, how do you not. Florida, like, who's the biggest winner of the day? It might be A M, man. Like, it's just.
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I think so.
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That's. That's big time for them.
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Georgia Tech, too.
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Yeah, Georgia Tech, too. But just A and M for chances to make the playoffs for what they have upcoming. For a team that's extremely young on the defensive side of the football to go on the road at Notre Dame, to deal with a lot of adversity, getting a pump block, the first possession return for the house, like, yep, A and M showed maturity, showed growth. Cause we've seen plenty of A and M teams in the past that would have folded. And having Marcel Reed, that can come up clutch, I mean, that is big time. Having Marcel Reed with his weapons and his ability to run. And listen, here's another thing too, to consider. Like, styles make fights, right? Like, every game isn't always going to be the same, but the more complete of a team you are, like Georgia, for example, like, they're not going to have that done to them. Very few teams are going to do that to them defensively. But you got to keep up with their offense. And then very few, like, well, their offense do that all the time. And it's about, you know, both sides of the football. The better you are on both sides. That's why the complete teams win, you know, more often. And because you're going to face some juggernauts on. On one side of the football that you didn't know before. But.
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You talk about A and M, though.
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How do we. How do we forget about lsu too? Like, LSU would be probably. They would probably be. I would say lsu, Oklahoma, now that I've thought about it for a second. Lsu, Oklahoma, I would say, would be in the SEC championship game, which neither, neither two I had in it before the season.
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A and M, by the way, they get a. They have a buy now and then they get three straight home games. Auburn, Mississippi State in Florida.
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Yep.
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So middle of October, you know, they take care of business at home. They could be sitting in a good. Sitting in a good spot.
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Well, last year they started off on fire and then, you know, fell down.
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The hill like at the end.
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Like in grownups, they were David Spade and the tire.
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Well, I mean, they got at lsu, at Missouri, at Texas. Like, yeah, it doesn't get any easier, like, for all those teams in that league.
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Gonna be tough. It's not gonna get easier for Notre Dame either, because their schedule's not great. And then they don't have a lot to. To prove down the stretch, but just another week of college football, man, just.
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I bleed orange. Do you guys still think Tennessee is a good team?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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100%. Yeah. Impressed with Tennessee's defensive front seven. They're not healthy at corner like this. They. They'll get McCoy back and they'll get their other buddy back. Like, they'll get Gibson. They'll get both starting quarters cornerbacks back as well. And Aguilar showing you some stuff, man. He's showing you that they won the trade like that. Not only do they create a statement and make a statement for the future about somebody trying to do the same thing during the spring, they got the better player. Like, Nico's struggling like crazy. Joey, Joey, Joey just put up a dagum 215 piece against Kirby Smart and company in the first quarter with three tuddies. So he. They're doing okay. Yeah. And you still see everybody. Even Brent's zero percent. Vanderbilt. Non zero. Non zero percent. Hey. All right, dudes.
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