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KENNY DILLINGHAM | David Pollack's CFP 12 if the Playoff Started TODAY
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KENNY DILLINGHAM | David Pollack's CFP 12 if the Playoff Started TODAY 0:00 What's up with INSTANT REPLAYS in CFB? 2:51 My CFP 12 if it Started TODAY 11:44 CFP Locks / Who's OUT? 17:56 Numbers you Gotta Know: Texas Tech, OU, Bama, Texas, UGA 32:29 Who Won Week 11? 38:44 Arizona State Head Coach Kenny Dillingham
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
And how about that Pollock interception in the end zone?
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Brent
Well, it's David Pollock and I think.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
People are going to learn what kind of ballplayer is.
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Brent
He's got a heart of a lion.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I'm really proud of that kid.
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Host/Analyst
This is C Ball. Get Ball. College football's top show for football analysis, predictions and coach interviews. Now here's your host, three time All American, seven time Emmy award winner.
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Brent
All right, everybody, welcome on in. Week 12 is upon us. The end of the season is upon us. Starting to look at playoff teams now and say, yeah, we can kind of pencil them in in pen. So we'll get to those in a little bit. We'll get to the usual. Man, we always do who won the weekend. That's always fun to do. We do the playoff eliminator. Sorry for some of y' all that get get booted from the college football playoffs. Brent will have his numbers like always, all the fun numbers of the weekend. But first we're going to talk about refs. And we don't do this often because you can talk about it every time, probably every week. We've seen the SEC refs, we've seen them stink consistently and we've had. That's been a talking point. I think the biggest thing that's driving me nuts is I'm tired of the replays. So I have a proposal. Okay. Like, if we're going to do the replays, the booths are supposed to watch the replays every single play. So in case it's replayed, they're ready to rock and roll. So I would love we have that little stick that the refs hold on the sidelines. If you've ever into a game that kind of counts you down of when the game is going to come back, I propose that we have a shot clock. We have a ref clock. So whenever we get to the point where we go review so the ref has time to communicate with the other refs in the headset, okay, we're going to do a review. They're going to walk to the middle of the field. He's going to tell you the previous play is under review. He's going to walk all the way to the edge of the field. He's got. I mean, this is a buffer that sets it up, right? So now we buffer. We go all the way to the sideline. We put our head in the little machine machine for no reason. Because he's not reviewing anything. Like he's told what to do. So he's not looking at the replay on the sideline going, yeah, this is what we're going to do. Everybody else, depending on what league you're in, is looking at it back at the office, they tell him what to look at or they tell him what the call is, and they, they confirm it and then they go on the field. Just give me a shot clock, like, just, just give me a 20 second shot clock. As soon as he looks into the thing. Let's get this thing cleaned up, man. Let's make it faster. LSU game, I think it was three out of four plays with. We reviewed a catch, a slide, a catch, like. And it literally was like, review, review, review. And it takes too long, and I know y' all get sick of it, too. And the ACC is cool because we get to hear all the dialogue, but, like, I need to just trim the dialogue. Let's just get that trimmed. So that's my little rant before we get to the top 12. It just, it just, it's just annoying to watch. I'd love to see it handled in some way, shape or form. All right, top 12. This is not a difficult exercise in the beginning. So we do have the Ohio State Buckeyes at number one. Here's another thing we've been talking about. We've been talking about common opponents. We've been talking about Illinois as a common opponent with Ohio State as a common opponent with Indiana. Now you have Penn State, another common opponent, and Penn State obviously got handled by Ohio State way better than that. Ohio State because of the less injuries. Carnell Tate still hurt, but Indiana injuries at guard, injuries at tackle. The way they're playing with Surratt, the way they're playing, they don't. They didn't look like the number one team in the country. They look banged up. Ohio State, to me, moves to number one. I think you could debate whether A and M's at 2. You could debate maybe if you wanted to, whether A and M's at 1. They got three road wins against top 25 teams, which. That's the hardest thing to do in all of college football to me. But I'm going Indiana, too. Still. I'm keeping a and M3. There's. There's no. There's no drama at 4. Alabama's at 4, no drama at 5. Georgia continues to be at 5. Again, the head to head with. With Bama over Georgia, Georgia over Ole Miss. Next at six. They played Citadel. Nothing to. To write home about. You know, I think they had the shutout, which is pretty good. And then you go Texas Tech to me to Me, the next team is. Is the Red Raiders like absolute beat down up 24 in the fourth quarter with with BYU. I mean just absolutely handled business. It was very fun, very impressive to watch. Texas Tech to me deserved to be at 7. This is the one I didn't know about. Honestly, if I wanted what I wanted to do, if I wanted to go Oregon or Notre Dame, I went with Notre Dame at 8. If you went with Oregon at 8, so be it. Some people I saw, I saw the AP actually had Notre Dame or Oregon above Ole Miss, so they had him a lot higher. Oregon got their best win of the season. It wasn't pretty by any stretch of the imagination, but neither was the weather. But the ground and pound was impressive and Dante Moore making a play late was impressive. And now is when it really gets weird like I. Brent, jump in here because. Because I literally have. Okay, you. You have to. First of all, here's, here's how I did it, Brent. So I want you to kind of understand the thought process of what I did.
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Host/Analyst
Okay?
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Brent
Okay, so I grabbed 12 and I'm done with. I'm done with group of fives. I'm just going to play roulette every week and I'm just going to spin them in a jar and pick one out. So North Texas, congratulations. You win the lottery today, so you get to be at 12. So we're just going to keep throwing people up there at 12.
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Host/Analyst
So USF, but that's fine.
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Brent
I don't care. Don't care. I'm fine. We can debate that, but I'm just like, we're going to keep playing that game until the season ends, until they play each other, probably. All right, so now I got Oregon at nine. You probably feel pretty good about the top nine, right? Like there. There's not much to debate there. And would you have anybody else different at that point? I mean, even if you shuffled them around the top nine of the top nine to me.
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Host/Analyst
So now I think that's safe to say yes.
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Brent
Okay, so now I had to go to 12. So now I took out North Texas. So Now I have 10 and 11. Okay, Georgia Tech has to be in this playoff. They have to be. The ACC has to have a team. So I took. I put Georgia Tech at 11. So now I have to put a team at Texas. And so here's what I was debating between Texas. Well, I just screwed that up. Now I have to put a team at 10, debating between Texas, Oklahoma, BYU, Utah, Vandy. Like, to me, those are the teams that are next in the hopper. Well, what are you most impressed with? With what you've seen. What are you, what are you hanging your hat on? Honestly, all of them have flawed resumes. Like if you want to go to Utah. If you looked at Utah last week, like Utah beat Cincinnati and Arizona State, that's by far their best two wins. But to have them where they were, have the committee definitely had a lot of respect for them because they got destroyed by Texas Tech. Well, BYU jumped in the conversation, they got destroyed, dismantled by Texas Tech. So who you putting out of those in there? Because, oh, you obviously lost to Texas head to head. Texas is in there. I mean it's just a, it's a, it's a very interesting debate of them. And then I look at Vandy, Vandy very much with what they've done and who they've beaten deserves to be in the conversation as well because they've lost a good teams.
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Host/Analyst
It's a little different than basketball, you know, because the, with the men's basketball tournament, you were always who, who was the, who got left out, who were the ones that were on the bubble that got in that sort of thing. But we're talking about the teams that were 64th and you know, much further down the road. But the conversation still right now almost feels like that because you've got so many teams with just so many very similar. And you can point to, hey, this one win versus that one win, this one lost versus that one. I flip a coin like you did with the group of 5 with 10, 11 or at least 10 coin. I'm fine with, I'm fine with whatever.
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Brent
Yeah, yeah. And I think you could argue Texas like they're on a four game win streak. There's not a lot of meat on the bone. I mean there's not a lot of things you can point to that's elite. But the at a conference loss is still to the number one team in the country by seven points. They, they're the only team that played them remotely competitive. And it ain't like Arch was his best football at that point. He was by far playing his worst football. So I think you go and you say fine, Texas is. It is at 10 for that component and you beat Oklahoma, who's right behind them.
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Host/Analyst
That's the key is they beat Oklahoma.
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Brent
Yeah.
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Host/Analyst
If they hadn't then, sorry, then this would be a moot discussion. But in terms of Texas, you get to find out very quickly, very quick whether that is real or not because Athens this week at number 5aM Coming up soon to me, they win one. If they win one of those games, I think they're, and obviously I think Arkansas was the other one. They have, they went two out of those three games. I think they're going to be in the College Football Playoff mainly.
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Brent
I think if they win one out of one of the. Oh no. Two out of the three. One of the two against the big ones.
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Host/Analyst
Yes. Mainly because of the others beating themselves and just the resumes won't, won't look very good at the end. Yeah.
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Brent
And if that happened, that would be our first three loss team to, to enter the College Football Playoff.
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Host/Analyst
Miami though, the, the Miami's one that there's going to be such an interesting case because I don't think there's any shot there in the ACC championship game. Like 10 and 2 with no ACC championship game is their ceiling. And obviously the Florida win looks like not much of anything. Usf, they might say, hey look, we beat another playoff team if USF badly and destroyed them and then beat Notre Dame early. Yes, it was early, but you still beat them. You still played on a field and beat them so well, you still, yeah.
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Brent
You still got a top 10 win. So I just, yeah, Miami's just got to creep up there and continue. So final, final result. Ohio State 1. Indiana 2A&M 3. Alabama 4, Georgia 5, Ole Miss 6. Texas Tech 7, Notre Dame 8, Oregon 9. Texas 10, Georgia Tech 11. North Texas at 12.
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Host/Analyst
So that's Oregon, the one that, if you had any like debate in terms of putting them ahead of others, I, I, that would be potentially one for me that I would look at moving much higher.
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Brent
How much higher?
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Host/Analyst
Like I could see like to them, me and them and Texas Tech are, are similar.
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Brent
Like Texas Tech just beat the number seven team in the country. Senseless. Senseless.
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Host/Analyst
I, I would debate that they were the number 17 in the country.
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Brent
Okay.
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Host/Analyst
Yes, well, but I know, I agree.
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Brent
But that's, I mean, I know that's.
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Host/Analyst
The only one for me is Oregon. That's the only one that's kind of.
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Brent
Worth, Yeah, I see. I'm not, but again, I don't think it's amazing. I don't think it's a debate with Texas Tech. I don't think that's a debate. Texas Tech should be over them. If you want to debate Notre Dame, we could debate that because Notre Dame has two losses. But again, Notre Dame has two losses by four total points. Oregon has one loss by 10. Like, so I, that's the thing. You, that's the balance. You do in your head, like competitive games, like the way Notre Dame lost at A and M or home against A and M. It was an extra point. Like, it was so bad. And that kicker. They're still playing kicker roulette, so.
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Host/Analyst
All right, let's have one question, though. One question. Your list right now. How many of those teams can win the whole thing.
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Brent
Man, the more, the more I. The more that I continue to do this. Let's make that a topic.
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Host/Analyst
I think that number is getting smaller.
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Brent
Yeah, but. But I'll say this. I also, I'm pointing to Indiana and seeing more cracks because of the injuries. And Ohio State later in the season, I'm interested to see, too, because, you know, they've got to be able to run the football like that's what. That's what I wanted to see late in that game. So I don't think there's a bulletproof team by any stretch of the imagine. We'll talk about that. Let's make that a topic this week because I think that'll be fun to discuss. All right, so there's some elite games this week, man. Some really, really good games across college football. If you're looking for ticket tickets, like, you can find them, and you can find them at one spot. Go to game time, man. If this is. This is a place where you can go, you can see all the tickets to all the sporting events, whatever you need. Go to game time to concerts, whatever you're looking for. They don't tack on all these extra fees, which are so stupid to see a price. And then all of a sudden the price jumps up like crazy. I think game time is really the future of. Of buying tickets. It really is. I love using. I was on there this morning looking at a certain game close to me, and I was like, okay, the tickets look pretty dagum reasonable. If you're a C ball, get ball listener, I got an even better deal for you. Go to gametime.co. i didn't say dot com. I said dot com. And so if you use that the game or if you use the Game Time app, check out my pro promo code, pollock, and you'll get $25 off the purchase. That's Gametime Co or the Gametime App promo code, Pollock, to get to get that seat for $20 off. That's a dub you welcome. That's the first win of the weekend. All right, Eliminator and locks. Let's go ahead and do these now. So if you want to talk about locks for the College Football Playoff, for me, after what I saw from Florida last week and after looking at their injury report, I'm done. Ole Miss is in, like, locked. I'll lock them in. Like, Florida quit. They're done. Like, that's technically, are they a lock? No, but I'm ready to lock them in. I'm ready to lock A and M in. I'm ready to lock Ohio State in and I'm ready to lock Indiana in. Am I, am I wrong?
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Host/Analyst
I don't think so. No. I, I, I, I think you're. Well, this week is the teller. If Notre Dame wins this week, I think they become a lock.
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Brent
Nope.
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Host/Analyst
So four. They got a big one this week.
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Brent
They got a ranked opponent this week. Absolutely. So that's, we got 14. So there's eight spots left. So again, this is how this works. Fellas. Cheer against the people you are competing with. Like, look at the bra. Like those guys are going to be in. So don't worry about them. So forget them. Like actually you, you, you want A and M to win against Texas, to knock them out later on in the season if they, if they do happen to beat Georgia. Like, just cheer for, cheer accordingly to how you need it to happen. So we've got our locks. How many teams left, Brent, you think can make it? Like, how we have our list. That's, that's continuing to run. What, what is it looking like nowadays?
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Host/Analyst
So last week it was at 35 and I included the, the G5 teams. Yeah, and we had a couple of those. I mean, San Diego State, like Hawaii said, see you later. Memphis, they're, they're, you know, again, no, no bueno for them. So but Iowa, Washington, tcu, Missouri, Memphis and then San Diego State. So now we're down to 29 that I have that can potentially make the college football play off the acc. It doesn't matter because they're weird.
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Brent
Nobody, nobody's gonna get eliminated in the ACC until the final weeks week of the season. Because everybody has a chance to. Obviously so many people as a Duke.
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Host/Analyst
Is five and four can potentially still make the College Football Playoff. And if they went out and win the acc.
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Brent
So you have them on the list.
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Host/Analyst
So they're still on the list that.
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Brent
I mean, they're still, still. Remember this. That's if they're still alive, there's still a non zero chance, then you're in there. All right. Eliminated this weekend. You just mentioned two of the teams that are going to be on this list, but I got Washington. It was, it was a, it was a nice, nice season. The weather At Wisconsin. And Wisconsin's defense did. Amen. Because that weather was terrible. Like, it was awful. Here's the thing about Washington. You still had a great season and you still have a chance to play spoiler. So the season's not over. The season is absolutely not over. And they've got. They've got the firework capability and. But they're. But they're a team that is officially eliminated from the college football playoffs.
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Host/Analyst
Same. Same bucket for me, Iowa. Like, they can play spoiler. They can play spoiler this week because they go from the muck that they play in the nastiness that they played in at home to LA and usc. Weather's gonna be a little better, just a little bit better. But, yeah, I was to be eliminated but not eliminated from being a spoiler. Like Washington, Iowa. Two big potential spoiler teams going down the road, but that's for mine.
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Brent
Wesley, who you got?
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Wesley
What's up, dp? Hey, did you hear the trumpets from Columbus as you came down from the mountain with your tablet and finally had.
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Host/Analyst
Ohio State number one?
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Wesley
I mean, my gosh, those people have been blowing you up. They are number one in my power ratings still of fan bases, you are pissing off the most. So maybe they'll give you a little bit of credit this time. I had Louisville. Louisville's out. Their path is done. I think they. They had to win out. They had to win the ACC probably to make the college football playoffs.
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Host/Analyst
So sorry.
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Wesley
I mean, the Braum show was awesome, but that loss to Cal and Brent, you want to say his name.
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Host/Analyst
Jaren Kave. Sanga Pouletella.
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Wesley
Yeah. Jks.
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Host/Analyst
Baby.
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Brent
And, you know, it's one thing, Wesley, to. To go across the country to Cal and lose. It's another thing entirely to lose to him at home like, that was. That was bad. And their defense, you know, Brent was bragging about their defense and those numbers, and they did not. They did not hold true. They could not stop ks. We'll go with the initials. All right, so that's. That's Louisville. You know, we put them in a. Put them in a thing and blended them. Even though I think they're on Brent's list of a non 0 chance, they still are still very much alive in the acc. Probably somehow, some way, I don't know.
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Host/Analyst
Somehow, some way. That's a good way of describing it.
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Brent
Somehow, some way, they're still there. All right, give me some numbers from week 12. Homagey.
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Host/Analyst
All right, so one you actually asked for. So I went and looked and we talked about Texas Tech in the red zone and their struggles in the red zone. So they are 42nd in the FBS in terms of scoring percentage. Good job. 89. Right at 89.
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Brent
Props though.
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Host/Analyst
108Th in touchdown percentage at 53.7. And if you look at it in conference games because they their non conference was not the greatest, that number goes even further down. They are 119th in touchdown percentage in the red zone in conference games. 45.5%. That is their fatal flaw. If they go down either one in the conference championship game or two in the early in the College Football Playoff.
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Brent
Very much to quote. To quote the great philosopher Reese Davis, that's very ungood. How many teams are there in FBS now?
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Host/Analyst
138.
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Brent
Okay, so just for context, Texas Tech fans, that's very low, very ungood.
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Host/Analyst
And that's fbs. You're not even talking power four. Yeah, it's so you're one of the worst in the power forward. That's for sure. We've got three, I mean four ranked matchups. It might change depending on how the College football playoff rankings and whether Iowa stays in them or not. But we've got three big time games. And the cool part this week is that those three big time games. Noon 337 30. You can watch them straight through. I didn't necessarily go in order. I went more so in order of the highest ranks. So Oklahoma goes to Alabama. Who? Do you remember the score of the game last year when Oklahoma played Alabama? 21, 724 to 3. Bama had 234 yards and as many turnovers as points. That was not. They. They got obliterated.
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Brent
And Oklahoma ran the ball on every play.
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Wesley
Yes.
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Host/Analyst
And Jackson, that, that got him transfer to Auburn. Yeah.
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Brent
If he could. If he. If you can beat Alabama, Auburn was like, yes, we'll give you a chance because we can't beat Alabama. So we're gonna, we're gonna pay you a lot of money to come. And now he's their backup quarterback.
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Host/Analyst
So I'm gonna go through the whole. We talked about Bama and the run game struggles and things like that. Give some numbers to for context there, but then have a question related to that. So first, Oklahoma's fourth in the FBS in terms of defending the run, 82 yards a game. Bama overall success rate is good because of the passing game. They're explosive in the passing game. But the running game, they're 59th of 68 Power 4 teams. An explosive run rate. 59th in yards before contact. So that's more of an offensive line scheme type measure. And then they are last in the power four in success rate in terms of running the ball. Here's the question though. Do you care? How much do you care?
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Brent
Well, I don't care that much because. Okay, so here's what I'll say. The other is so great. The other is consistently good and Ty Simpson's feet are good. So he can continue. He can also run and make some of that happen. So I don't think that it's considered. I don't think that it's the biggest problem in the world. I think you can live because the quarterback and the receivers are so good because you're not dealing with the weather. Like, if you're in the north, the weather's a different game, bro. Like Ohio State, Michigan is going to be miserable if you watch that football game. Passing is optional. It's not a choice. Like you don't get that luxury. Alabama is not going to deal with that near as bad. So because of that, when you get to the SEC championship game, if you do, or to the college football playoffs, you know, the first round, if you're hosting a first round game, which they're looking like they're going to, they're all right. Like, but if you had to go up north, that would be a concern. But in a dome and in decent weather, I'm not worried about it. But give me weather, I'd be worried about it.
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Host/Analyst
What about this week? Do you worry about it this week?
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Brent
I think that Oklahoma secondary is going to have to hold up and their aggressiveness in the back end will cause Alabama problems. So yeah, I think this is going to be a really good game like this. Now Oklahoma's offense and mater and like can they get that run game going? So it's kind of weakness on weakness, strength on strength. But yeah, this, this is. I do not look at this game and go, Alabama's absolutely guaranteed to win this football game. No, I, this is definitely going to be. I want to do more research and continue to study and, and watch these two matchups. But Oklahoma presents all kinds of problems and they did a year ago to an offense that was explosive. Like, I know that offense wasn't a great passing offense, but they could run. And they had Milroe looking like, which one of y' all kicked me in rush hour? Like, was it Jackie or was it Chris? Like, which side was it? Like, so I 100% think this week, you know, getting through this now, the defense continues to improve and play better though. I That's what I'll say about Bama. More and more guys making plays. But I'm not out on Bama because of it. But it could be an issue. Yes.
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Host/Analyst
Yeah. And you talk about the explosive part being so good. They're just below a M. We talk about how explosive A M is. Alabama is just below a M in terms of explosive pass rate. Just remember, this is all the numbers stuff. ProfitBall Focus. PFF.com promo code Get Ball 25 over a decade now for them and I still think it's the best resource that exists in terms of data and fun and all the things that you want to look at. All right. Texas at Georgia. Georgia's playing their eighth straight conference game. The running game, like, finally explosive. They had doubled the number of explosive runs in that game against Mississippi State than they averaged in the previous six games.
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Brent
Texas, though, number one defense is ungood too.
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Host/Analyst
So once Texas is actually very good against the run. Number two in terms of the fbs. Now I've got some numbers for arching and gunner and then we're gonna. A couple questions as it relates to that. So the last five weeks since week seven, so since Oklahoma, for. For Arch, we've kind of talked about this and how the ball is coming out much quicker. And a lot of their yards right now are after the catch. Almost 70 of his yards in the last four games are after the catch. In terms of passing grade, though, PFF, passing grade the last five weeks, Gunner is second, 90.6 passing grade. Arch is eighth, 82.4 passing grade. Here's. Here's my two questions for this. How much do you think Sark spent time trying to devise just specific things for Georgia given the two games last year? And then how much does Texas's recent plan change because of Georgia's lack of pass rush?
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Brent
Now Georgia's lack of pass rush. So you. You think you have more time to create. You don't have to be as. Get the ball out. Get the ball out. I think that. I think that Arch. Absolutely. Or not Arch. I think Sark had to spend a little extra time this past year on Georgia, like, because they. They pulled their pants down. Like it wasn't pretty a year ago what they did to him defensively. And so I think there's a little bit more focus, but I'm interested. You know, this is. This is not a showdown at QB than the beginning of the season that we were looking at after the first two games and saying this is going to be a really good showdown late in the season. Now talent wise on the field, we could have said but QBs like both of them are just gotten it together. The system has gotten it together and if you're not liking what Bobo is doing and Stockton is doing, you don't like football. Like if you're a Georgia fan and you still have issues like you need to call a doctor. Okay. Like I'll get you a number or something like you. You've got something wrong with you. The way he's. We. We've been consistently bragging on Bobo and the way they're making this thing go and injuries on the offensive line. Palooza just rotating guys in and out. Then you lose your best receiver and you. You've had running back issues with. With guys getting dinged up and it's just, it's been a machine. So it's going to be fun to watch these two guys and you know which one of these QBs are. Both of their wheels are big, right? Like which one of them can make plays in the running game and extend plays and give extra first downs. And then Georgia at home is been a giant. Has been a hard, hard thing to do. Minus Alabama. It's been a hard, hard proposition for.
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Host/Analyst
Everybody else except for that one caveat. So yeah. So you're saying that last week Georgia fans fever was cured because they got more Bobo and less cowbell.
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Brent
You ain't lying, bro. It's crazy.
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Host/Analyst
No, he's. He's been really good and actually it was one of the reasons like coming into the season that I thought Georgia and we. I'd said this ad nauseam all year but they wouldn't necessarily be as talented. But they get a lot better quarterback play because of how good their offensive coordinator is. And I think you're seeing that and you're also seeing some others get in there. But Texas, this is, it's. They're. Everything is. They're feeling good. They had a buy. Everything's in front of them. I think this is like.
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Brent
I think this is the fourth opponent that's had a buy before Georgia. I think literally it's the fourth one. I know Bama did. I think Ole Miss did. Auburn did. Yeah. And Texas did. So literally like that's. That's a big advantage to have that extra week and to get healthy and to get prepared and so another especially arts getting dinged, you know, like and then making it through a game and getting to getting the rest of noggin a little bit to get that get those headaches away.
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Host/Analyst
Speaking of bye week, Pitt had a bye Week before they played. Now hosting Notre Dame big game. And this is another where we're going to look at the running games because obviously we have talked ad nauseam about how good Notre Dame's running backs and running game is. Pitt is number three in the FBS in run defense and they're number two in team run defense grade, which to me, oftentimes, like the statistics sometimes in terms of yardage can be a little misleading because, hey, if it's a. You're playing from ahead, team's got to throw the ball on you. Maybe the rushing yards aren't as much, but when you look at grade and then combined with statistics, it shows much sort of more of a picture, clear picture, but also. So they're just behind Texas Tech. And we talked about Texas Tech with pass rush and pressures and things like that. They have. PIT, though, has 10 guys, 10 players that have at least 10 quarterback pressures. So it's not like Texas Tech where it's mainly four or five guys. Yeah, Texas Tech only has five. They've got. They come from everywhere and they use a ton of different people who can get after the quarterback. And they got some true freshmen playing. Well, it's not just Mason Heintschel at QB, Jacarian, maybe Turner at running back. Mr. Turner, he's been rushing, had 127 against Stanford. Noon game, Notre Dame. You win, you're likely in the College Football Playoff. How you feeling about that part of it?
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Brent
Well, again, the. The cool thing if I'm a Notre Dame fan, is I. I look at that grade and I look at West Virginia and I look at how good they are against the run. Well, it's really nice having a passing game this year that's way more developed and way better because they're not great against the pass. He didn't mention the pass there. There's a reason he didn't mention the pass. Right. Like, he mentioned the run grade. Because that's the strength and that's the strength of. No, like, that's the strength of Notre Dame. Obviously, the running backs are their best position on the field, but the problem is for everybody else now playing Notre Dame is their quarterback who was on the show last week, who just continues to be a problem. Tom Brady just said he was the best quarterback he's seen in college football. That was Tom Brady's quote. Like, I would disagree or I would just say maybe he hasn't watched everybody in College football. Now, C.J. carr is fricking good and he makes several throws a game that make you say, wow. But there's also some other guys too that we can put in this conversation. Mendoza would like a minute after what he just did. Julian saying what he's done all season long. Marcel Reed obviously is been pretty good. Like there's a lot of people you could put in that conversation. But that's the good thing to be a Notre Dame fan. Notre Dame last year could not beat you with the pass game. This year they can. I don't think they're as good around them. I don't think there's good on the offensive line or the defensive line, probably secondary like in the past, defense like they were. But their offense is more balanced and can beat you in more ways. And they still hit home runs with that run game. So it'll be a good matchup.
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Host/Analyst
Two things. One, C.J. carr, in terms of his passing grade over the last five weeks, he's fifth. Yeah, he's just, just behind gunner and Julian saying two, I think you're just disagreeing with Tom Brady because Tom Brady said it and you would just disagree with Tom Brady no matter what he says.
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Brent
That's not true.
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Host/Analyst
That's me. That's me. Knowing you and knowing.
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Brent
Do you agree?
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Host/Analyst
No, I don't agree with that.
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Brent
Okay, thank you. Thank you.
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Host/Analyst
And then too, if you noted him, hey, look, West Virginia beat Pittsburgh. You should be able to take. You should be able to take care of business. Yeah. Last sort of ranked matchup currently Iowa at USC. I did one. I did look ahead at the weather. Sunny mid-60s in LA.
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Brent
Sunny and 75.
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Host/Analyst
A little bit different than what the Iowa Oregon game was just played in, but just a shout out to Jacoby Lane. Most receptions he had in a game.
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Brent
Last week against north had some tough ones. Some sick highlight tape worthy catches. Tell me you got some numbers on USC's run defense, like something like that because that's. We're gonna. I'm gonna need that before the, before the game because. Yes, before the picks because USC's run defense in the middle has not been their strength like whatsoever.
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Host/Analyst
And guess who runs the ball ad nauseum.
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Brent
Yeah, I think Iowa. I, I got a, I got a feeling that they're going to be running the football. Just got a feeling they'll be. They'll be toting some rock, so.
- [32:19]
Host/Analyst
Oh, it's going to be a great week of college football, though. Like this is, this is a big time week. Big time week.
- [32:24]
Brent
Every week's a great week. We'll have Kenny Dillingham here in a second. We caught up with him, talk a little ball. But victory formation. We do it every week. Who won the weekend? And to me it was Nebraska. And there's a lot of ways you could go, but like here's why I say Nebraska seven and three brothers, seven and three, everything going in the right direction. TJ Lateef comes in at quarterback, goes 13 of 15 for 205 and three touchdowns. Emmett Johnson goes superstar level with over 100 rush, over 100 receiving. Here's the thing about Nebraska. Nebraska was already a good team. Nebraska's weakness by far on their team was their offensive line. When you add a mobile quarterback that can, can, can cure some of those deficiencies. Run game goes up, pass game efficiency went up. And how about TJ Lateef? In a four minute drill against UCLA, they throw the ball several times like a couple RPOs. They're like, dude, we believe in this guy. And Latif's a name you might want to know because that guy, that guy played exceptionally well. Really good athlete, young cat, you know you got a young cat in Raiola. So that, that for Nebraska's was a really good thing to see. And seven and three. Congrats to Nebraska.
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Host/Analyst
That first part, the seven part, that's, that's four and terror. I mean yes, they won seven games a year ago, but that was, I think they won the bowl game, right? To get the seven.
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Brent
Yeah. To get seven. Yeah.
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Host/Analyst
So before that it was, I looked, it was 2016 the last time that regular season had a 7.
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Brent
Matt Rule deserves a race. Oh wait, he already got one.
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Host/Analyst
All right, he got one. Good job, agents. For me it is Phil Longo and the Bearcats of Sam Houston State getting the dub against Oregon State, a game that they were out out gained 474 yards to 157. They were down 17 to nothing. They get a kick return touchdown and then they block a punt for a touchdown. Get their first dub of the season. Amazing even. Do you know what state Sam Houston is?
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Brent
Yeah, Texas.
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Host/Analyst
Okay, just making sure.
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Brent
Huntsville, I got that one.
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Host/Analyst
Hey, how about this public school in the, in the state of Texas? I was looking at some random fun.
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Brent
Facts there that I did not know. But Longo left Wisconsin, remember? Yeah, that offense wasn't great. It didn't help Wisconsin's offense. All right, Wesley, who you got in victory formation?
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Wesley
Got a quick sec note on your, on your bi week thing. So the bi week teams before Georgia were Bama, Auburn, Florida and now Texas. Now two of those. Of course Georgia also had the bi week, Bama and Florida. You know how many Texas teams on their schedule come off a bye week?
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Brent
I'm going to say zero just because of that.
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Wesley
Just two. But it's notable because it was Florida, which they lost to, and Kentucky, who they went to overtime with. So that stuff matters. And, you know, Kirby has his eye on that, as you saw after the SEC championship game last year and how he called out Greg Sankey on the podium. My winner of the weekend is. Who's your daddy? Indiana. I mean, big comeback win in Happy Valley there. But there's a video of Signetti, like, posing with all the fans. Like, all the fans that made the trip. If any single one of them asked for a selfie for a photo with him, he stopped and took the picture. So great win. I know the outside pundits are kind of hating on that win because Penn State's had a terrible year, but wins like that, I mean, you learn a lot about your team. And then one more thing to kind of, like, put some wind in the sails of Indiana. They are no longer the most losing team in all of college football. Do you know who took their spot at the bottom of the FBS most losses list? Dp? Mostly it happened this weekend.
- [36:25]
Brent
Golly, I got no clue.
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Wesley
Northwestern. Northwestern now has 716 losses and Indiana has 715. So I imagine that that gap will probably continue to widen this season. So big weekend for Indiana, big win and also not the biggest loser.
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Brent
Okay, before you leave, Wes, you gave Signetti prop. There's a lot of people across the country that are waiting for Indiana to lose because of Signetti in his mouth. Like, I hear it all the time from fans. I really do. I get it. I understand what they're saying, but I don't get it. It's Indiana. Like, all right, we got dilling hand coming up, and then when are we going to be back this week? I love doing this to you. I absolutely love doing this to you because I never know when our show is coming on. And so when. When is everybody going to get more of me and Brent on C. Ball. Get ball.
- [37:20]
Wesley
All right, we'll have picks. When are y' all gonna do that?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I don't know.
- [37:24]
Wesley
Tomorrow. Y' all doing that tomorrow.
- [37:28]
Brent
I love this so much. I love doing. I. I do this because I hate scheduling. I'm the wor. I am the worst person in the world to work with when it comes to scheduling because I'll be like, wes, yeah, Wednesday night. I'm good. And he's like, hey, where are you? I was like, oh, Crap, I'm in Texas. I did that to him last week. I was like. So I was just throwing that back out. So we'll be back for.
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Wesley
We got picks. Cfp. CFP reaction tomorrow night.
- [37:53]
Brent
Yep.
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Wesley
We'll do that live and then promise this week.
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Host/Analyst
Too. Yeah.
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Wesley
Hey, man, it's fun, though. It's always an adventure.
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Brent
Yeah.
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Wesley
We got to mix things up. Like these. These shows, these. These matchups, they're new each week, but sometimes the format of the show gets a little repetitive, so it's fun. And then live Saturday night every single week. I mean, y' all have so much fun in the chat with that. So we get excited.
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Brent
Yep. All right, well, here you go. Appreciate y' all so much for listening. Here's coach Kenny Dillingham. All right, next on Sea Ball, get ball. We got coach Kenny Dillingham out at his alma mater at Arizona State. Coach, bi week. Are you. Are you one of those stir crazy guys, man? Like, what have we. What have we done this week? What. What have we made sure we had to check off the list?
- [38:40]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, so normally I am, but this has just been such a craz with, you know, guys battling in highs and lows and emotional games that we actually took. The staff took a Wednesday off, a Sunday off, about to take another Saturday off. The players were, you know, no football all week, only lifting, running until Thursday. Then get out of here. I want nobody to just take a big breath of fresh air and come back. We got three games left and come back with a freaking vengeance to go be hungry to play the game when we get back on Sunday.
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Brent
Have you ever done that before?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
No, I just. I'm one of those guys. I got to. I trust my gut. And if my gut says guys need a mental break, I do it. If my gut says me to go hit people for nine days straight, well, we'll do whatever the NCAA allows. You know what I mean?
- [39:33]
Brent
Well, that's good. The ncaa, those rules have changed. What about that, though, man? With these kids now. And, like, I've heard from a bunch of coaches that have talked about just like, changing the practice schedule because of just the. The new age and the way that kids, you know, view their bodies. And I've even. I've had coaches tell me like, that, that they've had players, agents come to and be like, hey, listen, like, we're getting a little too much. Too much work here. Like, we need to rest the body. Like, it obviously, that new world and balancing that. How is that as a. As a coach, man?
- [40:05]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, it's definitely different. I think you got to have a great relationship with your players so they trust what you're doing and they know it's for their betterment. You know, I think if you don't have that relationship, you don't have the trust. And you know, I have a leadership council. We have a leadership council that everything we do, I pretty much clear with them. Hey guys, we need to tackle live in practice this week. Are you guys for that? This is why we struggle tackling a game. We're going to do these nine reps of lives. So I am an over communicator to our leaders and if they don't like something on behalf of the team, then we have a discussion about it. And at the end of the discussion, if they still don't like it, we don't do it. They're the end all. Be all of what we do in our program because they're the players. They win games, they lose games. That's what they are. They're the key to the program, not me.
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Brent
So in that avenue, things you can't control, obviously. So did you talk to them? When your name starts going out for other jobs, do you address that? Do you just leave that alone and because obviously it's not part of your daily regimen.
- [41:09]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, if needed. I mean, our guys know what I'm about. Our guys know I'm born and raised here. My next door neighbor is my sister. She has three kids. My little son who's three and a half hangs out with his cousins every single day. I just love dinner with my parents who are three doors down from me. Our players know the dynamic in the situation I have here is special. I've recruited all these guys here. They know the situation. So some things are better left unsaid.
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Brent
Yeah, I mean, obviously that means more to you. I remember hearing you said something coach, and I remember I bookmarked it and I was like, I'm stealing that when I speak. But you said like, I think it was. I'm going to try to summarize it as much as I can, but like it's not your job for someone to promote you.
- [42:03]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Like.
- [42:03]
Brent
Right. Like you were, you were when you were working your way up, like whatever it looked like, whatever it took when you didn't get the job at Arizona State that you were talking about getting. And then all of a sudden you're a GA again and you're knocked back down. Like what, you know, starting your career at. At that level and learning to grind, like how does that. Is that why you had so much success at such a young age and you're a head coach at your alma mater.
- [42:26]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, I think I hate excuses. I know everybody says they hate excuses, but, like, I truly think everything is my fault. Like, everything that goes wrong in the program is my fault. When I was a ga, if anything was wrong with any of the cut ups or if anybody made a mistake, I took such extreme ownership in everything that. I don't know, I think it's just everything is my fault. I don't know how to explain it. And I think when. If you can convince an organization that we're all in this together and everything that happens falls on every single individual, starting with me, then I think everybody's gonna, like, look internally, not externally. When problem, when things fail. So I think, like, one of the things that helped me was I never said, oh, that was this person's job. That's why the four verticals was tagged curl flat. I said, that's my fault. I gotta get that fixed right? That coffee sucks. I'm not gonna say that person made the coffee. I'll be like, that's my fault. I wanna go make a new pot of coffee. All right. Do you want two sug? Like, I always just tried to fix problems, I would say, and never tried to have excuses. I just never wanted to have excuses. The end of the day, everything falls on me. If it's even around me, if I can touch it, it's my fault. And I want to make sure it's as good as possible. That's been my mindset.
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Brent
Your wife has to love you, bro.
- [43:51]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Other than in the house. All right? She makes my life outside the football field. I could not. I literally don't know if I'd have lights on if I did not have my wife. She makes everything go when I leave the building. She's the one who runs the show.
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Brent
Okay, so. But you take ownership, right? It's always your fault, right?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
100%.
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Brent
That's a good lesson for a spouse. Regardless. Like, if you. If you. If you learn to take ownership in the household and lead your wife like that, it'll always turn out for the best. What is. What is the what? What did the. What did. Last year. What did you learn about your program last year? What did you learn about the guys? Like, what did you learn about that you took from last year that you said the reason we were successful and what we need to do moving forward? Obviously having Cam Scatter Boo would be great again. Like, you saw the dude in the NFL absolutely crushing it. Doing it. Great. A tone setter. But like, as a coach, to get back to that, for, for your, your. Your squad to get back to that point again, what needs to happen at Arizona State?
- [44:52]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
I mean, passionate people are not replaceable. And if you don't love the game, you better find enough people on your team that are going to play this game with so much passion that it's infectious to other people. And if you want toughness, you have to recruit it. If you want somebody that's going to set the tone and hit the crap out of somebody spinning down as a weak side safety, like, that is a mindset that is hard to coach. That is an absolute. You're either about it or you're not. And I think what I learned from last year, this year is that that passion that Cam had, that passion that, you know, Shamari had, it's really hard to replace. And you got to try to find those guys to replace that passion and lead. And I'm always going to search for that passion. Like, I'm a passionate dude and I want to coach passionate people. I want to coach people that I say, hey, hey, hey, come over here. Like, calm down. Not, let's go. I want to calm people down, not raise people. Like, motivate people. I want to be able to say, calm down.
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Brent
But way easier to turn them down than to turn them up, right? Like, and it's. And it's contagious for your whole team. Like, that's the right. And that's what, like, I love on the high school team, man. Like, we have some people that feel a certain kind of way about fights. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Fights are great at practice. Like, I want you to care enough to fight. I want you to get pissed off enough that you just got your ace whip like, that you need to. That you need to fight. Like, it's, it's not as easy to find when you look across the country, Coach. Like right now with the rankings that just came out, like, anything to you that, that, that stuck out, anything that you, that you, you thought you disagreed with or you liked or vice versa.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I mean, Utah is really good. I know that. We played them and they whooped our butt. That's a really, really good football team. Playing them at night is, Is not fun at their place, but that's a really good team with a really good coach. And so that's a team that I saw in the rankings and I said, okay, that's a team that's going to continue to give people problems I think.
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Brent
Now when you, when you see, when you see, like what's your, what's your gonna. What's your philosophy moving forward? Like, you got a team like Texas that goes out of conference and plays Ohio State, they lose, they could have scheduled someone else. Like, what's your, what's your competition level about? Like scheduling out of conference and stuff like that with your squad and what you'll look to do.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, well, I mean, next year we go to A and M as our non conference schedule, which.
- [47:19]
Brent
Oh, boy.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah. Oh boy, indeed. They're a good football team. That's a tough place to play. We actually go straight from A and M straight to play a game in London versus Kansas. So the beginning half of our schedule is unique and difficult next year. So at the end of the day, you know, I think we're the only team right now in college football who's. Every team we faced has had a winning record. I believe somebody told me that stat the other day. We haven't faced a team with a losing record yet. And I think that's calloused us a little bit. And it's rough to get through at times, especially when you have injuries or whatever those things are, but I think it's made us better football team.
- [47:55]
Brent
Hey, pick, is it on? Are you on an iPad right now?
- [47:58]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
I'm on a phone now.
- [47:59]
Brent
Okay. So I want to pan to your lap. What's behind you. I want to see those helmets. Oh, what you got? What you got in your man?
- [48:05]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Just everywhere. It's just every place I've worked.
- [48:08]
Brent
All right, show. Let's show us. Walk us, Walk us through us and talk us through for the people that aren't listening or watching.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Arizona State. Original as a GA And I went to Memphis, ga. Quarterbacks, tight ends, OC Then I went over here to Auburn, OC Then I went back over back Florida State, then up to Oregon and then back back to where it all started. And then that's a, that's a football from the Peach bowl game. I mean, from the Big 12 title game last year.
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Brent
So awesome.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
And then that's our saying behind us. Have more fun working harder than anybody in the country. Is our, like one of our mottos. We have three team rules. Be a good person, make good decisions and have more fun working harder than anybody in the country. If you know those three rules, you can play for us.
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Brent
See, I love that because one of the things that I've noticed across college football that it's kind of, it's kind of frustrating to see like, you don't see as much fun. Like, why can't we have fun at the same time?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I don't know.
- [49:16]
Brent
How do you toe the line between, I gotta make them tough, I gotta work them? How do y' all institute fun at Arizona State?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Isn't winning fun? Isn't competing fun? Like, losing sucks? So how do you have fun? You create competition. I don't care who you are. I don't care what you're doing. If we do a drill and then we do a drill where we're competing versus one another and there's a winner and there's a loser, it's more fun. So I think everything we do is about competition, and everything we do is about, you know, you can either get through something or compete in something. And I'd much rather compete in something than just get through something. So it's just about competition, I think, starts, though. How do you have fun but also build, you know, toughness and physicality?
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Brent
Yeah, I think finding those guys, too, around you because there's so many guys that, you know, coaches that obviously can. Can take the joy away, too, as a player. I remember those guys that. They made it miserable. It sucked. Like, they didn't want to be there. Like, that's also your job to bring that juice every day and to help hold everybody accountable.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, they've got to. They've got to see that I'm enjoying it as much as they're enjoying it. Like, we have a basketball hoop in our team meeting room, and we shoot hoops before every day. Who's got the best J. Oh, probably Sam or Jordan. Tyson. Jordan's brother, plays in the NBA. Plays for the Cavaliers. First round pick last year. So he's got a little. He's definitely got a jump shot.
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Brent
All right. All those. All those coach, all those helmets you mentioned behind you, what did you learn at Florida State?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I learned that it takes patience. You know, we took over a place that, you know, where it was at was. Was not a high point in the program. And it took patience to kind of get that thing up. That year three was an unbelievable season there for them. So I thought it was. And they really flipped the program at that point. So I thought the patience of getting that done was what I learned there. That was probably my number one takeaway, is patience and trust the process to where you want to be in three years. Like, when you take something over, it usually takes three years. And in that era, it was pre aggressive portal, so it was a little bit different. The game's changed Drastically since then. It used to be a three year process. It's a little bit different now with the portal and how you acquire players.
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Brent
Yeah, Signetti's screwing all y' all now. Now it's a one year process.
- [51:45]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, he was definitely setting a high standard.
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Brent
He's setting a high standard. What do you think about his personality and, like, his brashness? Do you like that?
- [51:53]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, I like people who are themselves. I think that's him. I don't care if you're the nicest dude in the world or the not nicest dude in the world. Whatever you. Whatever word you pick for that. Right? Biggest prick.
- [52:05]
Brent
Hey, guys.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah. As long as you are you. I cannot stand fake. I can hang out with the biggest prick in the world all day long. I'm cool. I know who you are. I'm waiting for the comment you're about to make towards me that I'm like, okay, this guy's going on again. Or I could hang out with the nicest dude in the world. Like, I just want to hang out with somebody who I know what I'm going to get and I know that that's who they are. I'm cool with that.
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Brent
That's cool. All right. Couple more and I'll get you out of here. What? Who do you look around, around college football, man, like, and you say, I like the way they're. Because you're an offensive guy. Like, you're an offensive guru. Who do you look at right now and you're like, man, what they do is really cool. What they do is awesome. Obviously. I heard your quote recently about, like, taking stuff like from people like that. Didn't you say, like, that's welcome to football? That's how you should do it. You should see something and go, yeah, give it to me.
- [53:01]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, I think. I don't know if I could give you one person. I think everybody's got, you know, what they do best and kind of their niche, I would say. So, like, when I'm looking at GT counter or split back offense, it's like, okay, Lincoln Riley, that's what he's been doing better than most people for a long time. Okay. Now I'm looking like, okay, slow mesh rpo. Well, Wake Forest did slow mesh RPO better than anybody in the country. Coach Juror, and he's now at Iowa. All right, well, maybe they're doing that there. Let me study that. Look at their offensive resurgence this year. Okay, well, it worked at Wake Forest. It's worked there. Slow mesh rpo. Then let's okay. Pro style, who's doing a good job? Jed's doing a good job at Washington in a pro style scheme under center, some bootleg stuff, big play action. So like, to me, it's all about studying who does what best and then picking and choosing what stuff that they do that could mesh into what you.
- [54:02]
Brent
Do and what your players obviously can handle and what can do. Exactly. Now, defensively, the same way do you. Do you look at people that are a big pain in the ace and what they do and, and what about some guys across the country Defensively?
- [54:16]
Coach Kenny Dillingham
Yeah, obviously, I think coach Lanning at Oregon, you know, that's one of my good friends in this thing. I think he does as good of a job as, as anybody on the defensive side of the ball. You know, I look at right up the road, the Arizona Cardinals. For us, you know, they're, they're a little bit hybridy. They're three down, four down, three high safeties.
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Host/Analyst
Yep.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
You know, their nickel becomes their, their field safety at times. So they're kind of mixing that Iowa State 335 with four down and five man fronts, you know, from the NFL. So I would say the Cardinals, Oregon. I'm always infatuated by the three high safety stuff just because I think those fits can enter the four down world. And they haven't fully done that yet. So those would be probably the three that I just, I got a lot of respect for how they all do it.
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Brent
Yeah.
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Host/Analyst
Yeah.
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Brent
Jim Knowles obviously has been doing that for, for a long time and been successful with it. People don't realize this and I'll get you out of here on this, but people don't realize and I want, I want, I want a Dan Lanning story because I, he was here at Georgia, so he lived right the road. My wife trained his wife Sophia. Like, people were people. I saw so many people attacking Dan. Like, that's not really him. I'm like, dude's a psycho. Like, he's an absolute psycho. Like, and I say that affectionately. I don't say that in a demeaning way, like, but do you have a Dan Laning competitive story, like frothing at the mouth story? Because I just, I love that dude, man.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
I mean, we would, we would go back and forth in his office all the time on the whiteboard. I mean, when we were both in Memphis together and we just go back and forth. But the one thing I remember, it was Memphis. It was like the coldest day we had. Tour of duty is what we called it. It was like 5:30 mat drills in the morning and it's January in Memphis. I didn't know. I'm from Arizona. I'm like, what is this, 30 degrees? This is not normal. Okay, so it was like 25 degrees out and at 5:30am this dude shows up. I don't know if he may have not had a shirt on or in a cutoff shirt with like the shortest shorts. Proving a point of like, let's go like absolute. Everybody else is all bundled up, every coach, every player, he's out there. It's like a crazy man motivating people. 5:30 in January to go sprint 50 yards, roll five times, get up and do it again. And that's Dan, though. Dan's. He is who he is. Like, that's kind of what I said earlier. He's one of my best friends because every time I talk to Dan, I know I'm going to talk to Dan. I'm not talking to the, this political mastermind who was going to say what I want him to say or what somebody else wants him to say. You're going to talk to Dan Lanning, the person. Dan Lanning. Everybody knows Dan Lanning, whether you know him or not, because you see him.
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Host/Analyst
Yep.
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Brent
Absolute psycho. Like I said. I mean that's, that's, and that's, that's a compliment. Well, Coach, I really think, man, you're one of those guys that continue to, to keep it real, keep being you, man. It's, it's fun to watch. Keep the fun in the game because a lot of that's going bye bye. And, and we have to say thank you because the first one we got, brother, this was the first one on the pod we got. So we had to, we had to represent for sure, man. It's, it's, it's a good looking lid. It had the Tillman on the back too, man.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
It is. Hey, with Nil, we may be able to bring you back, you know.
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Brent
Yeah, we. Hey, Nil would have been beautiful. It would have been, it would have, it would have been fantastic. Some of the numbers, it was really fun to, to be a part of that. But that's all right. Hey, we still, we still loved it. We still had pride and had fun back in the day and we didn't know what we were missing, did we?
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
No part of it, so. Well, I appreciate it. Y' all have a great night.
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Brent
You too, bud.
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Coach Kenny Dillingham
Thank you, thank you.