
Lane Kiffin & David Pollack Talk LSU-Ole Miss, Jaxson Dart & Coaching Career
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Lane Kiffin
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David Pollack
We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew.
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I got to sit in the driver's seat.
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I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me.
David Pollack
Of myself when I was that age.
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It felt like I was the captain.
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Allowing my son to see the flight deck. Stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way.
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David Pollack
How about that Pollock?
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Lane Kiffin
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Lane Kiffin
David.
David Pollack
All right, next we got the coach of Ole Miss and everybody knows who he is. Lane Kiffin. The documentary, Lane, was, was amazing. When, when you watched it, man, like, what did you think? Because Obviously, you take all of these snippets and all these different parts of your life and you kind of put it together, man. But like, I guess what were you most proud of that people got to see?
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, it probably sounds crazy. I didn't see the whole thing, but I did see the beginning. We were going down to a walk through, and it is a strange feeling. Just like the trailer, you know, it's like, okay, yeah, you lived it. But some of it seems so long ago, it's almost like, did it really happen? Because there's so many just crazy things that have kind of happened in my life and so. But my. My goal was first off, I. I didn't. It wasn't my idea to do it. They approached me and I just said, okay, I'll do it. And hopefully my story can help some people that are going through things or even young coaches like to make sure, like, hey, don't make the same mistakes I did, you know, place a really big importance early on on family so that you don't regret it later on.
David Pollack
So that's awesome. That's so great. And that's one of the things I've admired about you over the years, man, just to watch you change and morph but still be the guy that has fun, like, and not take the game too serious. Like, I love you sitting there talking about pickleball with your guys too, because pickleball is not exercise. Like, it is not. That is not especially when you're playing dou. Like, that doesn't even come remotely count as exercise.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, it's not at all. It's just fun because he gets a chance to compete and chance to. To be especially the players because they all think they're going to be good and they're not any good. So it's awesome for us as coaches to go out there, hang out with a couple, like, receivers last week that think they're going to be good. Trey induce and then we, like, beat him. 11. Oh, smack.
David Pollack
I heard you and Jackson were quite the duo.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, we would play against each other a lot, you know, like, so not as much on the same team. But it was fun playing against him. Him and our tight end, Pre Scorn and me and my partner Sawyer, one of our coaches. You know, we had a huge, huge match one night. Like, everybody was there, was under the lights, man. It was like a prime time matchup. You know, five games set, and we swept them three nothing. So it was awesome.
David Pollack
You don't do the Saban approach, though, with all those years, I Saban saving the basketball approach was like, all the good players on one side, it seemed to be on Nick's side. You don't do that. You don't stack it, do you?
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, you know, I never went to. That wasn't in the documentary, but they should ask Coach Saban. I never went to staff basketball at Alabama because the first day, when they're like, oh, come on over, like, yeah, Coach puts people on certain teams and like, you can't. He's not going to let you guard him and he can't block his shot and stuff. Like, I ain't playing with that. That's those rules, the Saban rules.
David Pollack
Yeah, you. You don't get in trouble. When. When. When. When you. When the last time Georgia played Bama was at Bama at Georgia. Excuse me, was 2015. Like, how has the text thread with all of you guys changed since 2015 now with all the different coaches and new spots and where you're at?
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, I think kind of like the message last night or yesterday when I was on a podcast, and it was like, you know, you don't know what's going to happen with your life. And I think that. That, you know, mine's a really good example of that. What you think may be good or maybe bad, you know, just reserve judgment because you really don't know. And years later, you'll probably figure out it all happened for a reason. And, you know, so that's a. That's a crazy one to think where we are in 2015, where everybody is now, and we're on group text, and now Sark's in the sec. Kirby means it's. It's kind of crazy to think about when you.
David Pollack
When you look at, like, this week and this matchup for you guys, you know, everybody had on their bingo card Trinidad Shambles playing quarterback. Like, everybody knew that was going to be part of that. Like, that. Nobody. Nobody even talked about that preseason. But Lane, man, watching that kid, like, flatliner. The ability to run, like, it's been impressive to watch. And I feel like when you got a kid like that and you get who wasn't here, you know, throughout your career that you had time to shape and mold, how important is it to have that headset that. That. That Charlie can talk to him, you know, and you guys go so fast and, like. So how much is that? How much do y' all get to talk to him pre snap before the play and kind of help him with. With all the things that have been going on?
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, a lot. I think that that has, you know, been a major change in college football. And it's not talked about. I don't care that it's not talked about, but at least for us, we use that a lot. And Charlie does a phenomenal job with our quarterbacks. Helped last year, Jackson having it. It's just. It really is amazing to be able to communicate so much with them and it allows them, in my opinion, to play earlier, you know, and you know, for someone like that that wasn't even here in the spring, you know, for him to have someone helping all the time, just when you haven't had as many reps as people that have been there a long time, I think back to, you know, just having Jalen hurts as a freshman and how great he did. Imagine if we could tell him before, you know, what the. Where you're hot off of. Yeah. Hey, it looks like this guy's coming, man. Hey, Harold Perkins is coming. Better side the protection over there.
David Pollack
Yeah, that boy fast. He good. When you look at the LSU defense, what. What sticks out, you know, I'm not talking about from any other, other vantage point or any, any social media clips, but what sticks out on the other side of the football?
Lane Kiffin
C ball, get ball. I mean, that's what I said it Tuesday, not knowing I was coming on here with you. And I said Tuesday, man, watching film, man, if the ball goes that way, they are flying that way. So it is C ball, get ball. And they got great. They did a really good job. And Brian Kelly's talked about, you know, that they went out and, and invested a lot, spent a lot of money. And it shows defensively. Three portal starters on the D line, three DB starters, some of the highest priced guys in America, which is kind of the age that we're in. You know, here's. This is why LSU's third and has a phenomenal roster. They did a great job recruiting high school as always there. His last three head coach won national championships and now they've added with the portal these pieces. So this is a really big challenge. You know, this is like the old LSU defenses.
David Pollack
Yep. And so like how do you. They also like the blitz as much as anybody in the country. So like how do you now take that and how do you use your tempo and how do you use. Not specifically, but like I think the most annoying thing in football is to keep up with tempo. Like I can't. You know what pissed me off the most? Lane? I couldn't even celebrate a sack that. That pissed me off like. So how do you Use that to your advantage.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, I think a lot. It's funny you say that. I learned this tempo spread thing really from the Briles from our Kindle came down and obviously got it from his dad. Yeah, I remember one of our first, you know, there was a sack and he like calls a super fast play. Everybody's sprinting back to go. I'm like, this is just feels weird. And he's like, I ain't letting them guys celebrate.
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Lane Kiffin
I think you got that from daddy. So there was a reason behind it?
David Pollack
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy because then you Got. You got to run back, you know, so fast. It literally. I mean, I was like, y' all even take. Y' all take my breath away. You. You make me play more timid. You make me play less coverages, and I can't celebrate with my guys. Like, that's. That's super, super annoying. It's.
Lane Kiffin
It's.
David Pollack
It's hard to deal with, man. But when you look at. When you look at social media, I love that you embrace social media. I love that you're. You're okay going on that. I think you consider. You should consider reaching out to Elon Musk and, like, officially being recognized. Like, somehow, because you don't take yourself too serious. Like, you're. You're able to say things like, where does that come from, man? Why are you willing to do that? And other coaches are worried about the reactions.
Lane Kiffin
I just. I've always approached social media. It wasn't a huge plan by any means, and just like, I kind of get to be normal, you know, you get to be. I do. I respond like a normal person would, you know, and so many coaches just over years are in the coach speak, but that's also how they. They do interviews, too. You know, I just think it really doesn't have anything to do with winning and losing. So, you know what? Why not just kind of show people your real self and. And have fun, too, with it? Yeah.
David Pollack
And I know.
Lane Kiffin
I know our fans love it, so, you know, I think everybody loves it. A lot of your job is to please your fans, and so our. Our fans have a blast with it.
David Pollack
Like, that's the. I'm here for all the petty, by the way. Like, it's your job, everybody else's job, to always like to stop it and worry about the things you say. Like, as long as. As long as you're respectful. But like, Jackson Dart, you know, we talked about him earlier. He. He is now going to start his first game. What do you think about him and going to the NFL and being around him? Because I. I called him last year my spirit animal Lane. Like, I just. I love the way the dude competes. Like, nothing's too much for him. Like, he'll run you over. He'll do what it takes to just love his. His demeanor. In a world where everybody's, like, always wanting to be liked, he's like, no, no, no. Do your blanking job.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, he's awesome. And credit to his family. His parents just did a great job. Their whole family's like that, you know, it's just awesome. People to be around. Like you say, spirit, animals, people you want around. And Jackson, the time that he takes for little kids, you know, or teammate on defense, it's a backup, you know, and it's so genuine and real. That's how he won the team. He didn't win the team by, you know, speeches. Any of that's just. It's who he is. It's what. What he does, you know, whether he. When he first got here, you know, and Knox was here one time, my son, you know, he'd take him to lunch, and I was. I was like, man, is he trying to impress the head coach? You know, like, he's not. He's just pouring into people. Yeah.
David Pollack
When. When you look back on your coaching career, man, all the. All the people you've spent time with, like, who are the people that you've taken the most stuff from? Like, what? I know you're you. Which is. Which is awesome. But, like, who. Who are some spots along the way that you took a little bit of this, a little bit of that to. To really evolve into who you are. You talked about the tempo with Briles, like, but, like, what else. What other part of coaching have you stolen?
Lane Kiffin
Well, I was raised with my dad, so. So much there.
David Pollack
Did he get mad that you were an offensive coach and not a defensive coach?
Lane Kiffin
No, no, he. He loved it. And so I was able to utilize all the stuff he taught me that would hur defense and then being with Pete Carroll and then next Nick Saban. So, I mean, that. That trifecta right there of information is, you know, kind of a cheat code to defenses, so just fortunate to be in that. And then I really modeled, like, as I was growing up, I wanted to be Steve Spurrier, you know, and so, like, that type of offense, the visor, you know, kind of some press conferences.
David Pollack
So say what you feel, say what you want.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's where. Where it comes from.
David Pollack
The. The. The thing we talked about, like, Alabama and Georgia, you know, Knicks lost or shoot. Kirby's lost 19 games as a head coach. Six of them are to Alabama. And Spurrier, when I was there at Georgia, like, he was kicking our tail, like, and he was chirping about it. And then I talked about, like, coming into the weeks, like, coach, coach, you know, coach Rick and the coaches, them booty holes were tight, man. Like, it was a different week. Like, how do you avoid against that stuff when you're going to play in a moment in a big game like that to bring the juice to have the fun and be you.
Lane Kiffin
I just think our players know that's what they're going to get for me, and that's how I am. And when you come here, you know, you're going to get a really aggressive head coach. You know, we're going to go for it on fourth down more than anybody, run tricks. But that's because we tell the players we believe in them. We believe in them to make the plays. We're not going to be safe and conservative, you know? You know, and just hope that they don't make the plays. So that that's really how we. We run our whole program. Our players know it's a player's program, and. And you know, they're gonna get every opportunity to go win these big games.
David Pollack
We saw so much of the past in football, too, man. Like, how much like watching yourself and USC and those days, Tennessee, like, dude, how much is the game different now than. Than it was back then?
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, it's so different. I always think the offensive stuff just where we are now and. And what we do now and the no huddle and the tempo and splits, it's just. I mean, it is what it is kind of life. You know, you usually learn as you go, but this thing I do always think, you know, like, when they showed him Reggie Bush and Matt Liner highlights, and I was always like, I've said it to him before, man. Imagine if we had tempo and we didn't huddle back then. Oh, my gosh, it would have been crazy.
David Pollack
That would not have been fun. All right, so we'll wrap it up, man. How's Juice? Is. Is his levels okay? We're good to go.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, yeah, he's good. You know, he. Juice. We deal with Juice's ego a little bit and, you know, on game day, everyone's pictures with him and everything. So sometimes we got to humble him a little bit. You know, he's young, so I kind of feel like he's kind of like me at Tennessee. You know, he just thinks, hey, just go in there, you know, I can do whatever, so you can relate to him.
David Pollack
But how cool was it, too, man? Actually, how cool is it having Knox with you now, too? Like, having your son with you? Like, I got to come to a little bit and do to camp this summer. And I just. I saw him out there spinning around. He's got a good arm, too. Like, he looks. He looked good. Looked the part as well. But how nice is it having him close nearby now with football and that relationship that you had with your dad now, like, Okay. I. I get to do this with him.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. I'm just so blessed for him to be here, and it's awesome. We were just in walk through, and. And I had a horn guy that stands by me. I was like, hey, why don't you text. Text Knox, like, does you want to go to a movie tonight? So it's like, you know, those are things that everybody has, but when those. When you didn't have those 12 years, you know, we didn't live together and lived apart, you know, as we went to Alabama and then Florida Atlantic, then here before they moved here. So you just have a different appreciation, I feel like, for it when it's. When it's been taken away.
David Pollack
No doubt. Well, Lane, appreciate your time, man. Thank you for all you do. Thanks for sharing your story too, man, because I think it will inspire people, motivate people, especially you. Talking about being sober, your faith, man. Like, it's been fun to watch you open up and learn, because we all learn. Like, unfortunately, bro, you were learning under a microscope with every single thing you said. I'm glad I didn't have to do that, man, because you grow up a lot along the way.
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. Thanks for saying all that, David. I appreciate it. And you've always been awesome and coming around, and Charlie Weiss, you know, just told me the other week how awesome when you spoke down here when you came, how great it was impactful. So thank you.
David Pollack
Appreciate you, My man. Good luck this weekend.
Lane Kiffin
All right. Thank you.
David Pollack
See you, brother.
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Episode: Lane Kiffin & David Pollack Talk LSU-Ole Miss, Jaxson Dart & Coaching Career
Date: September 25, 2025
Host: David Pollack
Guest: Lane Kiffin (Ole Miss head football coach)
This episode features an in-depth conversation between David Pollack and Lane Kiffin, covering Lane’s journey as a coach, recent developments at Ole Miss, the upcoming matchup against LSU, and larger themes of family, mentorship, and personal growth. Lane reflects on the “documentary” about his career, discusses coaching philosophy, recruiting in the portal era, and his evolving approach to relationships on and off the field. Both share anecdotes from their careers and offer playful, candid banter, especially about competitiveness and personalities in college football.
On lessons learned and judgment:
On the new transfer portal dynamic:
On the importance of authenticity:
On aggressive coaching and belief in players:
On being present as a dad:
The tone is candid, playful, and honest. Both men balance lighthearted teasing with deep reflections on football, family, and life as public figures in a pressure-filled environment. Lane Kiffin’s self-deprecating humor and sense of humility stand out, while David Pollack brings a grounded perspective as both football analyst and friend.