Brent (2:14)

So, so loving. What about quality is how good is Booger at golf? Have you golf with Booger before?

David Pollock (2:20)

I have golf with Booger when we covered the draft. The book game is pretty solid. It's pretty up and down. But let me tell you something. That sucker is bougie on a golf course now. Like, we ain't going down the road to the country club. Like he has an in at every course you go to. Because I remember we were. I don't even know where we were for the draft. I think we were in Dallas and he had us set up like several days in a row at different courses. He's got, he's got nice, nice short game, good little touch for. For. For Boog. He's definitely got. Got the touch. But I think we start with Michigan.

Brent (2:54)

Fun fact, though, before, before we get to the game. So with Booger coming on the show, do you realize the commonality of the last three Wednesday guests?

David Pollock (3:08)

Oh, the baldness. Nice. No, no, no, no. Was Fowler not last week?

Brent (3:14)

Oh, that's right. My bad.

David Pollock (3:15)

Fowler has a great head of lettuce.

Booger McFarland (3:16)

Did you just.

David Pollock (3:18)

Let me tell you something. If you bald Fowler, he'll cut you. Like you just pissed Fowler off, brother. Like you. That's. Nobody talks about Fowler's hair like that, you jerk.

Brent (3:26)

Completely forgot about that. I was, I was thinking Bear SVP and then Booger. It was just the, all the, all the great, the great baldness that we have. By the way, did you also know. How did you remember that we picked a fantasy teams?

David Pollock (3:39)

I did. It was a long time ago and I was going to tell you. We don't need to recap that all the time, but I think it's definitely worth noting sometimes if you got some big nugget for it, though.

Brent (3:47)

Well, you kicked the ever loving crap out of me in week one because you had Sam Levitt and Jordan Tyson and I had Kate Clubnik and it was. I think you like doubled me up in terms of score and you know, running like Makai. You barely played for Oregon.

David Pollock (4:05)

Well, it's called a day that ends in why. But that's okay. Hey, I think one of the cool things that y' all are going to realize here. See ball, get ball. Brent's been working with Pff for. For a number of years. He's coached like, he's one of the most really smart, like, intelligent football fans.

Brent (4:21)

Call me a nerd. It's okay.

David Pollock (4:22)

You can just say Nerd, whatever. But like I think that we'll watch tape of certain guys and give you insight that there are a lot of people will say things and have splash clips. But like I think we'll, we'll dig deep. Like I know Brent, so I don't have to ask him. Like I watched every Bryce Underwood throw. I know you did too. I watched every single throw that John Mateer made. Like to give you good in depth stuff, man. On what they did. And here's how I describe Bryce Underwood. Brent poised, smooth, controlled, accurate and did not force anything. That's how I would describe the, the week one start. Yes, they were overmatched. Yes, he didn't have to do a lot, especially in the run game. But I think that those, those would sum up his ability. Catch the football, get rid of the football, see it, explode it. Like he's going to be really hard to deal with on the perimeter throw game because he's got such a great arm and a quick release that it's going to be tough for people to have to stop that consistently. But I mean, just uber impressed. And I started thinking about it in my head like the list of guys in the top 10, in the top 15 that I would take over him with some of those other squads. And it's not high like that's like he's got, he's got some special to him, man. And you saw some special week one physical talents.

Brent (5:44)

Yes. And by the way, the thing that I wrote down most was under control. I think kind of those two words sum up all the things that you just said. And, but in terms of just physical, raw physical ability, the size. And then like the one fastball that he put to the tight end down the middle of the field was.

Booger McFarland (6:03)

I.

Brent (6:04)

Would have loved to have seen the miles per hour on that throw because revolutions it had some serious, some serious speed behind it. Interesting thing. You talk about this being a ranked matchup. So obviously Pro Football Focus, they have their own sort of rankings. Neither of these teams are ranked in the top 25. And in the Pro Football Focus rankings.

David Pollock (6:24)

Where does Pro Football Focus have Alabama? Where do they have them before the season?

Brent (6:28)

That's a great question. I didn't look specific at Alabama. I've kind of forgotten about Alabama after, after week one. But it's. You talk about the physical gifts, but he's doing something that all of these all or a lot of the week one quarterbacks had to do. The new guys, the CJ Cars, the Arch Mannings, Ty Simpsons, they now have to go he now has to go into a big time environment on the road at night. And that's the part where it's like, okay, you might have all the physical ability in the world and, and poise and all that, but it's a little different when you're down 10. Nothing with those people on top and.

David Pollock (7:05)

Just all over, you see, and that's, that's why I love your analysis most of the time too is because, like, let's not crown people after one week. Like there is a lot harder things to do in college football and you just mentioned the hardest one is going on the road. And I'm interested to see the Michigan supporting cast because I see Morgan out wide and I. He's the gadget guy, he's the speed guy. Client at tight end looked really, really Good. I think McCully is going to be the big physical target. Like the run game was not elite for Michigan. Like I'm used to seeing. Like I, I'm going to be interested to watch the. Because it's a majority shotgun now. Like it's going to be shotgun, it's going to be play action. They move the pocket. They kept it easy. He didn't have to run. So he'll be asked to do more this week against Venables & Co. And then we get a good gauge of, of where he's at. Like, I think it's, it's, it's a great start and you see the physical tools and you see the poise that a lot people don't have poise. You know, Arse Manning have poised years into his, in his playing career to start at Ohio State, but that was also a different animal. What about John Mattier, man? Like, what were your first thoughts of him? Because I stole all the thoughts on Underwood. I don't want to do it again on you here.

Brent (8:12)

Quick release. Even though it's obviously awkward, it's a, it's a unique, it's not true Phil Rivers, but it's, it's down there in terms of the sidearm, but it's very fast, very decisive. He's got arm talent, he's got NFL level arm talent. The thing for me watching Oklahoma and watching their offense is like in terms of just the ability to consistently do things. Now granted they couldn't run the ball much of anything against Illinois State, but they obviously had a couple offensive linemen out. They get those guys back. Based upon everything that I've read this week, that they sort of wanted as their core five, but the system itself, I'm I am beyond intrigued to watch the system itself against a Michigan level type defense that you know is going to play oftentimes play press that they're going to bring extra bodies. I like the run, I like the run game when the, when the QB is involved with it. He's got some juice to him and ability to make you miss. But how much does he play with and, and have to make tight window throws? That's the part where I'm. I want to see because it's easy to make a lot of times to make those throws and be a little off target when there's nobody within three or four yards of your receiver. But now if you got somebody and you're playing man, you see a lot of man, you got to make tight window stuff. Okay, let's see it.

David Pollock (9:32)

See, I love the arm release because it's lightning fast and it can change. It's not just one the whole time. He can change it and do different things. But you talk about week 130 of 37 for 3 92. Baker, that's that beat Baker Mayfield's debut of 388 which was the high at Oklahoma. And there's been some pretty dude, pretty good dudes at quarterback at Oklahoma. So.

Brent (9:56)

And they have by the way, they led, they led the power four in explosive pass plays in the week one.

David Pollock (10:01)

He also, he also rushed one in. But, but I think that's the. When you're going to solve this problem. If they protect him, Oklahoma's going to the playoffs. I'm just telling you if they protect him like he throws balls 20 yards down the field that you couldn't run down there and hand them off any better. Like you legit could not run and hand it to your guy. And it's a 20 yard dig where he's putting it on the money. He, he attacks the seams on the money. He had a back shoulder to Lewis on the sideline that was absolutely dirty. Like he definitely makes some plays then make some plays with his feet. Can they run the football like you said? That will be. Michigan's not going to allow you to do that. They're going to heat you up, they're going to press you. But the start for Mater was, was really, really fun. They fumbled the first completion and given, you know, chances and didn't play their best. But man, like you saw Oklahoma fans, they got excited after watching what they watched and suffered through a year ago. They were like bro, hallelujah. Crap up for this guy right now.

Brent (11:01)

What did you think of the hit that The Michigan kid, that he's going to end up getting missing the first half, the bar, the linebacker.

David Pollock (11:10)

I think, I think you know how I feel about the targeting calls most of the time. But the rule is forcible contact to the head or neck area. And that was forcible. Like that was. That was contact to that area. That was. And now listen, it was awkward because the, the helmet kind of came up and it was a kind of a. It was a weird looking. It looked probably worse than it felt for that guy, honestly. But if you're going by the letter of the law, which is what they do, they're going to go forcible contact to the head or neck. And I think that they're going to call that most of the time. Would I say it? No, I would say play on, like, because I want, you know, I want the dangerous shots out of the game, not the ones like that that accidentally kind of turn into something a little bit worse than it was supposed to.

Brent (11:50)

Be in terms of picking the game. We're going to do that in another video. We got a special guest that we're going to tape tomorrow and do all the picks, so we'll save that there. But we heard you in the YouTube comments.

David Pollock (12:03)

Yes, we did.

Brent (12:04)

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Brent (14:00)

See and we kind of did a little bit in that sort of opening window with the Texas Ohio State a little bit.

David Pollock (14:06)

Don't hedge it. We screwed it up. Okay. We didn't. We didn't. We didn't give Rocky Talk their flowers. And here's the thing. We have a producer and his name is Wes and he was on the show and Wes said get to Tennessee and we screwed it up. So we're going to own that. We're going to wear it. But we did talk about it a little bit. Just. But Joey Aguilar was the, was the. That's what everybody wanted to talk about. Right. Like that's. And that's what you should want to talk about. How does it look different? But to me. And it was. It was really fun to watch the play calling. It was different for Tennessee, which you appreciate because you've done articles over the past couple years about Hypo and how much you hate his system and just that it doesn't change that. It's very. It's predictable and it's not.

Brent (14:46)

Yes.

David Pollock (14:46)

Like I thought he did a good job of changing that up. It was interesting. They came out pass, pass, pass. He throws the bomb for the post for the long touchdown. But I think he started 6 of 13 and then goes 7 of 11 and got got situated once he had some of those high balls. But I thought Tennessee looked. Well, here's the thing, Brent, I'll spin it to you and ask you this. Like, did you think the D looked as good as they did a year ago? Because the defense was the reason that the defense carried the day, like for the most part for that season. Are they going to be able to do that again this year?

Brent (15:21)

I don't know. But before we get to the. Do you think Tennessee won the Nico trade because it was technically a trade with ucla, with Aguilar, do you think they won that trade after one week or you want to ready to crown them winners?

David Pollock (15:33)

Yeah, week one. Yeah, like week one you're going to say? Absolutely. But I think, I think for your program and how you want to run it and somebody's holding out, like, yeah, I think you already won, like whether, whether the, whether the difference is, you know, here and here, I don't really care. But I think that you got a guy that can make plays, you got a guy with experience, you got a guy with a little bit of something stuff in his neck too, which I really like because this dude, he came out of high school football, sat for a couple of years, then goes to juco. He's been to a bunch of different places. I feel like he really appreciates his opportunity. So yes, like I'm fine with if I was Tennessee, I want Joey Aguilar. And again, it had nothing to do with Nico. It was his, it was his family that, that kind of made that situation harder than it needed to be. But yes, if I'm a Tennessee fan.

Brent (16:18)

In terms of their defense though, it wasn't as. I guess things were easy in certain instances for Syracuse. Now granted the game was out of hand, but there are certain areas of the field. I thought that Angeli attacked quite well, especially the middle of the field and also they lost one of the corners. I think it was the Gibson kid.

David Pollock (16:39)

Yeah, Gibson's out for a little bit.

Brent (16:42)

And obviously the McCoy kid is not back yet. So like the, the transfer from Colorado, the Colton Hood, that's like a massive thing for them now because if he wasn't there, that would be an even bigger deal. But like having not having either of those guys playing against Georgia, that's not necessarily great because I think George has improved at the receiver position and obviously that's in two weeks and not this weekend, but the following weekend. But you know, Aguilar in general, back to him, he didn't turn no turnover worthy plays. Like we talked about how he basically had almost one or two a game before, so none this time. So it was, it was good to see he hit the. He was greater than 50% on the over 10 yard throws. That was a big deal. So I think if you're a Tennessee fan, you're feeling pretty good and that your defense maybe is just kind of rounding in the form more so than being great out of the gates like it was a year ago.

David Pollock (17:37)

I think, I think it showed flashes, but I don't think it did not stand out to me as elite like a year ago. Still had five Sacks, had a couple takeaways, actually scored a touchdown, but. And then all of a sudden, Jackson Moy gets hurt and other D linemen are going down, and then Gibson goes down. So injuries are ready to, to the, to the defensive front and a corner where you didn't need it. So those are, those are definitely things that, that are frustrating. Is our boy here? Are we, are we ready to rock and roll?

Brent (18:02)

He, he is hanging out, it looks like, by the way, it looks like he came straight from the golf course if. Based on the.

David Pollock (18:09)

I just can't, I can't wait to hear about the golf. He's going to be so excited to hear about mine, too, because he used to just rip on me so bad about not, not playing, you know, enough, enough holes. Like, oh, all right, so get, yeah, get in there, get in there. Look at that. You, you ready to rock and roll?

Booger McFarland (18:26)

What's happening, man?

David Pollock (18:27)

I want to know how Booger McFarland to start this. Everybody knows who Booger McFarlane is. Super bowl champion. All that good stuff. Analyst extraordinaire, NFL, college. All that good stuff. I want to know how's the golf game? That's, that's what I want to know.

Booger McFarland (18:41)

Game is not bad. Like, unfortunately for me, we're getting to the time of year where I don't play very much because it's football season and the travel and, you know, when you're home, it's kind of hard to justify being gone for four days and then going play 18, you know, so, so the golf game takes a back seat, but had a great summer, man. Played some great rounds. I played up at the Vineyard, up in Martha's Vineyard. I played overseas, played a lot in Tampa. Broke 81 time this, this, this summer. So I think we're getting better, we're trending the right direction.

David Pollock (19:14)

Okay, I like hearing that. I, I would like you to know, first of all, that I am playing 18 holes more now. The golf game is getting, is getting.

Booger McFarland (19:24)

Yeah, because the, yeah, yeah, because those nine hole things that you used to do are, I mean, that's like, that's like, I know this podcast is clean, so I, I, I'll keep it clean. That's like you and the wife laying down, just having a little foreplay, then you go to bed. Like, that's what nine holes is. Seriously, like, I mean, nine holes doesn't do it for me. It just doesn't.

David Pollock (19:44)

Well, okay, so, so my thing would be, Boog, because of the schedule in the past, stuff like, you, you travel a lot. You ain't got four hours. So if you go, give me two, like we go get two. But here's, tell me if this is, this is a negative or a positive. So here's my new, here's my new schedule. If I play 18, I get eight sprints during the round. I get 25 push ups after every single hole. So I walk seven and a half miles, I get eight sprints and I get 450 push ups in a round of golf.

Booger McFarland (20:13)

Hey, listen, I'm glad you're doing it because I'll never ever do that. That's, that's amazing. Golf is supposed to be enjoyable, not a workout, dude. Like, who told you to work out during the round of golf?

David Pollock (20:22)

It makes it both. It's enjoyable. And no matter what I shoot, I still got my workout and. All right, look, we were talking about before, we were talking about before you came on and we're just talking about how you do the defcon. Like, and we love seeing that every week. Actually, some people hate seeing it as well. But like, when you, when you think about the, the defcon of Alabama and their season, like, what you see for them now moving forward, what that, what's that number you're going to have, Matt?

Booger McFarland (20:48)

You know, first of all, I hope everybody understands it because when I post it on Saturdays, people get confused because, you know, if it's early in the game and I put out a DEFCON 5, people like, is it already to a 5? I'm like, relax, go. First of all, go Google. If you don't know what it means, go Google it. Five to one, five to one. It doesn't go the other way. So that's number one. Number two, how I look at Alabama is this. It's early in the season, man, so I'm not ready to go past like a four for them. And, and, and here's why. I think everything that they did wrong on Saturday is correctable. I just don't know if Kalen DeBoer can correct it because in their last 10 games, they're five and five. And I've started to see kind of a pattern like their attitude and their effort is not what we're used to seeing. And so yes, it's correctable. You can change your attitude and you can change your effort. In a spur of a moment, I'm starting to wonder, is he doing a good enough job motivating this team? Because there's no reason whatsoever for Alabama to be 5 and 5 in their last 10 and to lose to Vandy, to lose to Oklahoma to lose to Florida State. Like, those are games when those programs were at their peak. Maybe you lose, but those programs haven't been at their peak in a while. And so I don't think he should be fired. I don't think we're in a situation where we need to call for his job. But I do wonder, or I think he's got to wonder, how am I not able to connect with my team? I think the biggest thing that Nick Saban did for years and years besides winning is he had a connection with the team. If he said the sky was gray, they didn't even look up. They believed it. Right. I don't know if this team is really following Coach DeBoer now is. Does he have time to fix that?

David Pollock (22:34)

Sure.

Booger McFarland (22:34)

But it's been a year. A year and some change that you would think by now they would have connected. And I just don't know if they've connected yet.

David Pollock (22:42)

Okay, well, we do these things every. Every week now, every Wednesday called podium kings. Okay, we're gonna. Wes, go ahead and. Go ahead and tell. Tell Boog what he's got here.

Wes (Producer) (22:51)

Boog, how are you, man? Great to see you. So each week on Wednesday, we celebrate the best podium king moments of the few days before that. A lot of coaches are coach speak kind of dry, but we find those gyms that are the best. And your guy of the Bayou Bengals had one of the best responses to Dabo Sweeney. So I'm going to play it, and I'm gonna let you guys react to it.

Brent (23:16)

So here it is.

David Pollock (23:17)

It's like getting the final exam day one of class. They made a 65. We made a 58. Neither one of us were great. We dominated him in the second half. So he's either a really good grader for, you know, giving himself a 58, or he's a really hard grader on us, or he didn't see the second half, which. That might be the case. He might not have won.

Booger McFarland (23:45)

Hey, man, what it's. This is the first game of the season, man. What is number one? Dabo. I understand what Dabo is doing. He's trying to let his fan base, let his base know, hey, neither one of us played great. They just played a little bit better. I was always taught, man, like, when you win, say a little. When you lose, say less. You know, like, don't. Like, don't. Like, don't say anything at all. But Dabo had to kind of take a shot to say, yeah, y' all won't, but you really didn't do anything. You really didn't play well. Now, bk, if you know anything about bk, he's got a little edge to him. And so for BK to kind of punch back and say, well, maybe he didn't see the second half, and if I was him, I wouldn't have wanted to watch it either. First of all, I love it. I'm glad BK stood up for himself and stood up for the Bayou Bingles. I just don't know if we need to be kind of going there after game one of the season, you know, man, you.

David Pollock (24:36)

If that wasn't LSU and your squad, you would have loved every second of that, like, a hundred percent. That's what we're missing, man. We're missing some of the salt, bro. We had saltiness back in the day, Bug. We had saltiness. We didn't do this. Like, we're all friends on social media bull crap.

Booger McFarland (24:52)

Like, right?

David Pollock (24:53)

We were salty. We hated each other. I mean, if you wore a different color, screw you. Like, you ain't on my squad. I ain't on your squad. But now there's too much. If you. If that wasn't lsu, you'd have been like, I love that he said what he felt, right.

Booger McFarland (25:07)

I do love it. I just don't know if we, like, it's like, we just. We just got past labor late. Like, can we. Can we get into the season before we start getting deep and cutting? Like, I love it. It's just a little early for me. Like, let's. Let's get to Halloween before we start, you know, throwing jabs from. From a thousand miles away, if you know what I mean.

Brent (25:28)

So, Book, speaking of your squad, how do you think that win changes the trajectory of LSU season? Or is it just kind of like, okay, that's a really big win. Everything's still going to be insanely tough in the sec.

Booger McFarland (25:42)

I think it's the latter, man. It's a big win. But if you see the SEC schedule, I mean, it's. It's. It is what it always is. It's a daunting task starting. You got Louisiana Tech this week, and then Florida comes to the house. And I think Florida has improved more than just about any team in the country from last year to this year. I think Billy Napier is the right guy for the job. He's got his quarterback, DJ Lagway. They built up the offensive and defensive lines. Florida's going to be tough. Then you got Ole Miss. Then you got South Carolina. Like, it's. It's a big win because of the narrative that was being created that BK couldn't win the opening game. And for everybody in Baton Rouge who have kind of gone on the big fundraising deal the last year for this team to go out and spend what they spent on name, image and likeness and to go up to Clemson and get a win, I think it kind of quieted the narrative and. But what good does it do to beat Clemson? You beat Louisiana Tech and then you lose to Florida and Ole Miss. Like it doesn't really do anything. It doesn't really do any good. So the way I always look at these games, man, it's better to win them, especially that one. It's a non conference game. But it's about what, what did you learn about your team? And here's what I think I learned about lsu. I think Garrett Nussmeier is as advertised. He's a veteran quarterback that's pinpoint accurate, that's going to be the leader of the team. I think they got a ton of weapons offensively. Kaden Durham, he needs some help in the backfield, but he is as good a running back in this conference, I think as anyone. I think defensively, here's what I learned that I didn't know. I think LSU can cover with on the back end. They got some dudes back there now that can cover number four, number three, number 11. Like these dudes can play sticky man coverage. And if you can play sticky man coverage and now that allows Blake Baker to do what he did Saturday night, which is to be exotic. Bring the nickel, bring Mike will bring the safety. Like he can do a lot of different things. And he had a veteran quarterback in Klubnick that's played a lot of football. He had him confused. And so I like what the defense did. I think for me that was the thing that I learned. Now LSU can finally get back to what we used to be, which is the offense was always a little shaky. But you knew that we weren't giving up more than, you know, 17, 20 points every Saturday. Like we weren't going to give up more than that. And if we're back to that, if that defense can do that, man, they can. Number one. They're going to be in every game and they can beat anybody, anywhere, anytime. The key will be how healthy can they stay. Can the offensive line, which even though LSU won, I didn't think the offensive line played great. They were especially the tackles, tackles. Tackles didn't play great. But again, it's their first start. You expected it to be somewhat whatever it's easier to learn after a win than after a loss. But I think all in all, to answer your question directly, I think it just, it creates expectations that every week and every game gets a little bit bigger and they may not get tested this week against Louisiana Tech, I don't know. I hadn't seen Louisiana Tech play forever, but I know when Florida comes to the house, Florida is going to bring a challenge. Ole Miss always brings a challenge. South Carolina was my sleeper tick in the entire country to make the playoff. So, like, the SEC is what it is, man. Like, I don't know how we can have this debate about what conference. Like when you go week in and week out, there's no conference tougher than this conference. And we don't even have Georgia or Texas on the schedule and our schedule is still tough. So it is what it is, man. But it's a great start and is glad to go up there in the Fake Death Valley and get a win. Oh.

David Pollock (29:15)

I like to slide that, just slide that in on the way out. The great Booger McFarland joins us. You see him every week, ABC previewing the games. We've seen him on the golf course. The short game is nice from the big fella. If you, if you had to do a, a redo pick after week one for the College Football Playoff, would you take a mulligan? Would you, would you add someone in there or, or take someone off that you thought like, did you see something so that stood out, glaring, that moving forward really changes your opinion of what you had preseason?

Booger McFarland (29:45)

Well, not really. I need to see a little bit more out of Oklahoma. I think John Mateer and Arbuckle coming over are really going to change what we see from them. Like Oklahoma looks legit offensively. Smarter State. Can they, can Castellano survive and do that week in and week out?

David Pollock (30:07)

He ain't a big dude.

Booger McFarland (30:08)

No, I mean he's fine. He's what, 5, 10, 200 pounds? Like, can he, can he take that for the next 12 and a half weeks? If he can, if he can, they can. They can beat Clemson, they can beat Miami. I don't think anybody envisioned Florida State being a playoff caliber team, so that's probably new. I still think Alabama's going to be fine, but they're just too talented not to be okay. I don't know though. Here's the only thing about Alabama and I'm gonna see if you guys agree. I don't really think that DeBoer wants to play Simpson and follow me here. Ty Simpson has been There a long time he's been beaten out by everybody that's come through there. I think he's waited his term and I think there's an allegiance to the veteran quarterback. I start the veteran early because it's easier to put the veteran out there and then bring the youngster in. I think the guy they really want to play is the guy who recruited the five star from Duncanville High School in Texas, Russell. I think that's the guy he really wants to play. But I don't know how the fan base is going to accept playing a freshman when Todd Simpson has been there forever. Like, to me that dynamic is. Is really something I think he will never tell us, But I think DeBoer is struggling with that on the inside. Your thoughts?

Brent (31:15)

I mean, he even brought the. The Austin Matt kid came with him too. So it wasn't like he just that he inherited every quarterback. He even brought Mack with him already. So there's two or three of his guys that are. That are already there. I mean, at a certain point he. Especially with the way, speaking of podium kings, with the way he was in the press conference the other day and just sort of the wishy washiness of that and the unsettledness there. It might be change for the sake of change just in because of it. I don't know what you think, Davey.

David Pollock (31:49)

I think for. If you're going to get your ace kicked up front like that, I mean, golly, like we talked about Proctor on the left being the left. The first tackle taken, like, he got worked. I mean, and I know he's an athletic freak, but he got worked. They got worked across the board. So, I mean, Ryan Williams dropping passes, not looking like Ryan Williams. Everything about it is looking is. It just looks sloppy. So if. If you're not going to protect him, it's going to be interesting to see how they move forward. But, like, what about Bill Belichick, Bug? Like, if we're doing Def CON levels with Bill Belichick after what we saw the other night. Because I'm pretty firmly. I'm pretty firmly flipping. I thought with that schedule book, I'm like, all right, they gonna get eight. Because the schedule is a cakewalk. They play for the worst teams in the acc.

Booger McFarland (32:34)

Yeah.

David Pollock (32:34)

After watching that the other night, whoa.

Booger McFarland (32:38)

I think they're going to wind up 6 and 6 when it's all said and done. I think Bill is too good of a coach. I think they are too him. Mike Lombardi are two prideful gentlemen who. Mike Lombardi is his GM in case anyone didn't know, I think they're too powerful guys, man, not to be able to get the 6 and 6. I think they need to play Brad Johnson's kid at quarterback and bring Gio in as a changeup because that opens the offense up where you can throw the football a little bit better because you can't just run. You know what surprised me? And I love Freddie Kitchens. Freddie Kitchens, full disclosure, he's a friend of mine. Why in the hell he just kept running up the middle over and over the other night? I have no idea. Like, Freddy, it's first and ten, second and eight, third and seven. Like, can we not do this for the fifth drive in a row? Like, they gotta open the offense up a little bit. Like college football. Whether we like it or not, you gotta be able to throw it 65% of the time and run at 35. I don't care who you are, if you can't do that, then your offense is going to struggle. Like, it's got to be some form of spread even. Even Georgia is going to have to throw the football when they go against better competition. You can't just line up and run it over everybody. But I. But I do think, though, I do think that Bill Belichick is too prideful not to get the 6 and 6. They just don't have a bunch of dudes, man. Like, they. Like, they got some big kids, but they're young. They're freshmen. They looked uninspired. There were no halftime adjustments. Like, where was the adjustments? They played better in the first half than the second half. That was surprising.

David Pollock (34:10)

After the first drive.

Booger McFarland (34:11)

It was.

David Pollock (34:11)

It was pretty bad.

Booger McFarland (34:13)

I don't know.

Brent (34:14)

That was. I was going to say that was one for. I'm going to take a. I might take an early victory lap on that one, Davey, because I was like, I don't think he can. Like, his weakness in New England at the end was getting players and drafting players. So there.

Booger McFarland (34:28)

But, yeah, but he's not the guy.

David Pollock (34:30)

He.

Booger McFarland (34:31)

Mike Lombardi is the guy who's doing this quote, unquote. He's the GM now, and Lombardi. Now, maybe Lobardi is too much like him and they're too connected. I'll buy that. But Bill is not out here in the. In the portal watching tape. I guarantee you, Mike Lombardi is supposed to be doing that.

David Pollock (34:47)

He's watching tape of Max Johnson or who's his quarterback, who's the same age as his girlfriend. I digress. Go ahead, Brent.

Booger McFarland (34:55)

Oh, you had that one in the holster boy.

Brent (34:57)

Oh yeah, he did.

David Pollock (34:58)

He did.

Brent (34:59)

Biggest game of the weekend, Texas and Ohio State. One of the things I think from my perspective, and I mentioned this with Davey on Saturday, is that I thought Ohio State ceiling is maybe two to three notches higher than Texas in the end. Your assessment of that or do you think that's something where that's a just two great teams that are going to be there in the end and we'll see then once what they evolve into.

Booger McFarland (35:24)

It depends on. It depends on which quarterback continues to ascend because these two teams I think are relatively similar. I think they both have explosive weapons on the outside. Ohio State's probably got better weapons, but Texas I think has better backs. You look at Baxter. Baxter looked good the other day. I don't know how come he didn't get more carries. He looked good. Defensively. Texas should be really good with Hill and Simmons and Taft. Ohio State, I mean they may have the best secondary in the country. They're young up front, but those linebackers, man number eight was like a heat seeking missile the other day. But which quarterback is going to continue to take the next step? Julian saying looked better on Saturday. Arch probably has a higher ceiling, but I think both of these teams are going to win defensively with opportunistic offenses. This is not going to be either team scoring 40. This is going to be your 27, 21 type games that they're going to win because I think offensively both quarterbacks are young, they don't have a lot of experience and I think it's going to be a lot of growing pains from throughout the season. Which quarterback takes the starts to kind of get it sooner though will determine.

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Ceiling.

David Pollock (39:24)

All right, so let's go DEFCON again because I love it so much. Let's go back to to know the great booger McFarland. That's why we're doing the DEFCON. Like watch his social media does it every single week. Notre Dame.

Booger McFarland (39:37)

Notre Dame. I would put at a I I liked a lot of things that they saw that I saw. I I would, I would Put them at a five. I'm not gonna panic. I was very impressed by Carr. Like, he showed me a little moxie. He threw the ball better than I thought he could. He ran a lot of quarterback. I thought Mike didn't. Brock got away from Jeremiah Loves too much love didn't carry the ball enough. Like, if you're Notre Dame and you guys tell me if you're Notre Dame, you have to end every game with at least 35 runs. I don't care. Who cares the ball. Who cares the ball?

David Pollock (40:09)

Four love needs at least four, at least 15 to 20.

Booger McFarland (40:12)

Like you need 35 carries. And I think they got away from that a little bit early. But defensively, I would love to play for Notre Dame, and here's why. They play man to man on the back end and they tell the front four, go get him. Now, my only question is, does he have some dudes up front that can go get him? Because the other night in Miami, they didn't go get him. And if you're going to play that much man to man, and those secondaries led by more than those guys, they're great on the back end. But if they can't cover anybody, if they can't rush the passer. Davey, you know what I know? I don't care if you're Deion, Darrell Green, Champ Bailey, you can't cover forever. At some point, at some point, the guy gonna get open.

David Pollock (40:52)

You have to tell me. You liked Bane and Mezador, though. Like being a defensive lineman and watching those suckers get off the rock and get after the qb.

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Man, I love Bane. If Bane keeps eating, though, he gonna be a three technique.

David Pollock (41:05)

Well, he thicker than a Snickers, bro. He is like that lower half is thick. Yes, I. I agree.

Booger McFarland (41:11)

Yeah, he. If he keeps eating, we gonna move him one slot over from five technique to three technique.

David Pollock (41:16)

He gonna be a handful, though. Miami's defensive line look really, really good. All right, Brett, you got it. What you got?

Brent (41:22)

In terms of this weekend with Michigan and Oklahoma, we kind of started off the show with that. Your early thoughts there? Your early thoughts on Underwood and his chances of going into Norman and getting a victory?

Booger McFarland (41:36)

I think it's going to look very similar to what Arch looked like. I think he's going to struggle early. It's his first road game. I mean, think about this. I like to put this in perspective. So it's September, right? September. So if we go back nine months ago, he was in high school. Nine months ago he was in high school carrying a backpack and now you want him to go from carrying a backpack in high school to Norman, Oklahoma? I don't know. What is it, 80,000? You boomer sooner. That's a lot to ask against Brett Venables. Now, when you add all that up, that's a lot to ask. I think, though, his talent, though, will eventually rise up. Like, he's super talented. Like, if you go back and watch some of the throws, forget who he's playing against, watch some of the throws, watch how the ball comes out. Watch how he threw one little deep end cut. The ball was out of his hands and the receiver's back was still turned. Not, not many, not many freshmen do that. So he's got the goods. The question to me was, or the question for me is how fast can he acclimate on the road? I think just like Arch, though, he's going to struggle early. And if that game is still close in the second half, I think if you're Oklahoma, you got to be concerned because the more comfortable he gets, I think the better he's. He's going to play. And he's. He's one of the five purest, most talented quarterbacks in the country. I think him, I think Lenore Sellers, like those guys have different tools than the rest of the guys have now.

David Pollock (43:11)

They definitely got some upside. And Underwood's definitely the poise to me stuck out too, man. Just the poise. The organization, all that stuff was good. Booger, we appreciate you, man, so much. Thank you for spending some time with us. We know you a busy man. Let's make sure you get some, some 18 holes in this week. And, you know, not too much tape being watched, man, you gotta. You gotta still have some fun, dog.

Booger McFarland (43:31)

Listen, I'm gonna do my best, man. I, I appreciate the invite, man. I love what you're doing, buddy. Always good to follow you. Tell the wife I said hello. Glad she's doing well. And I can't wait to get on the golf course with you, buddy.

David Pollock (43:42)

Yes, sir. All right. The great booger McFarland. Man, I just, I've always loved his personality, Brent. Just, he's got such a cool easy, and he's like that everywhere. He's always happy, he's always. He's always joyful. The podium Kings of Brian Kelly was perfect, too.

Brent (43:59)

How much fun do you think him and Berman have on Sunday nights, by the way?

David Pollock (44:02)

Oh, yeah, well, that's the crazy thing. He does NFL and he does college at the same time, which is. Which is not that easy to do. No, Wes, Wes, we Got another one for you.

Wes (Producer) (44:13)

I got one more thing for you guys on the way out. So I know, David, you've been to Starville a few times. Stark Vegas. And I. I don't know if y' all have seen this cliff. I'm going to try to pull it up here. This is from Justin Laster, Tosa. I guess he covers Arizona State. But I'm going to pull this video up and I'm going to spare everyone the sound of the actual. Nope, we actually. We got the sound, so I'm going.

David Pollock (44:38)

To pull it up. Spare us the sound.

Wes (Producer) (44:39)

No, no.

Brent (44:41)

Sounds too good.

Wes (Producer) (44:42)

They spared us the sound of what Stargo really sounds like. So this is how Arizona State is using its assistance to try to get ready for that trip to Mississippi State. All right, get dp, Give me your DEF CON level. How unprepared is Arizona State for the cowbell factor, specifically on Saturday?

David Pollock (45:18)

Bro, that. That's a. That's a five. And you need more cowbell. A lot more cowbell. And everybody, I hope you get that movie reference, but that is one of the most obnoxious places to play in the world because it never stops.

Booger McFarland (45:34)

And.

David Pollock (45:35)

And. Okay, first, two things. One, why do we just have one girl doing this? Like, should we have multiple.

Brent (45:40)

I think there's more.

David Pollock (45:41)

Okay.

Brent (45:42)

I think there's more. It's not just one.

David Pollock (45:43)

We should have like 20. But here's. Here's what I love about it, man. Like, if I'm the girl that was doing it, that was in the video, we only saw her. God bless. Because I get bicep workout. The whole practice. I mean, I'm just shaking it and I literally just. I get to burn calories and get the biceps bigger. Like, I flipping love it. Like, that's. That's fantastic. But you always. You see the crowd noise and you try to find ways to do. But that. That is a unique place, man. Stark Vegas, their fans are awesome. The cowbell is. Is unique to. To being able to hear, man. You can't. Like, it's. It's. It's very obnoxious. Very obnoxious.

Brent (46:19)

So the thing that I thought about was you. Have you ever seen Ant man, the Marvel movies with Antman where he throws the. He has the little disc and he throws it and it makes it way bigger.

David Pollock (46:30)

Yeah.

Brent (46:30)

Or he himself gets way bigger. They need to do that to the cowbells because those things are Mini Me versions of what they are going to see and also hear in Stark Vegas. That is for sure, 100%, because that's not even anywhere near close, by the way.

David Pollock (46:47)

Oh, the.

Brent (46:48)

The. The UNC thing. That's. I'm. That was. That was as bad as it gets on Monday.

David Pollock (46:55)

That was awful. That was. That was embarrassing. And how about the. The start had me thinking, like, okay, okay, that was. That was nice. Like there. That might put TCU on skates all night and just own the line of scrimmage. And it was like, oh, oh, oh. Like, how many shots can I take? Can I absorb and get the absolute crap kicked out of me? That was. That was an embarrassing way to start. That was not good. That was. That was Chapel beat down. That's what that was. That was not what they were looking for.

Brent (47:25)

It was cool to see Max, who's local to us here, throw and, you know, you've competed against the throw. A touchdown pass to his brother. That was about it in terms of highlights for North Carolina. But that was. That was always my concern with him was the acquisition of players, because college football, in the end, has always been about talent acquisition more than anything else.

David Pollock (47:46)

Yeah, let's go to the chat real quick, because I see something right here. I want to. I want to click on this one right here. I think it makes sense if you're reading it. Booger said five minutes ago, Every team has to pass the ball 65% of the time in college football. Then he tells Notre Dame needs to run it 35 times. Okay. I think every team is very different. I think every team is built different. I think when you have Jeremiah Love engineering Price, you should run the rock and you should be physically imposing yourself on people. When you have those guys up front that typically do their job like they do now. Here's the problem. When you play against Miami, you couldn't do that because that's a really good group up front. One of the best groups in the country. So to me, it's not about a number of 65% as much as I have to be able to do both. So when I play an elite team up front, I have to be able to attack them in the back end. If I play an elite team with the back end, I have to be able to run the football. So I'm more of a balance guy. I definitely want to lean towards the run, but, like, you have to be able to beat good teams and in different ways. And so I think those are the teams that are going to win the. The championships. The most is the ones that have the most variety. Which. Here's another thing, too, Brent. Like, the college football is more and More now like NFL and I agree. So obviously more free agency, more guys coming in, more new. So here's what I'm doing as a coach now. Texas doesn't get to do this. They don't get to learn on the fly. But like, you see teams that are going to get better throughout the season and figure out who they are. Like when you're watching your team, man, they don't know who they are yet. They haven't had preseason. They don't know what all the guys can do yet. So you take the first couple of weeks, man, to kind of get those data points. Who can do what? Who's my best 11? Like a lot of times coaches are literally in meetings going, okay, this guy's not my best 11. Like he, he might, I think he needs to start. But no, he doesn't like see a young guy do it. And so like there's a lot going on that, that they're figuring out on the fly. And it used to be easier when you had guys for two and three and four years. It's not like that anymore in college football. So I think you'll continue to see this, you know, as the game continues to go be like this.

Brent (49:57)

One thing that is still different though, and I think we're seeing that more this year than we've seen in a while. And here's a number for it. SEC quarterbacks rush for 534 yards just from Brandon Zimmerman, who does fine bomb show in week one. The fifth most combined rush yards by an SEC quarterbacks in a single week over the past 20 years. So the QB run game very much a part of that. But outside of that, I do think you're seeing the NFL sort of come back to that one. Oh, one other question I was going to ask you. I forgot at the top that, that I, that I saw, if you had to guess, I saw this from real analytics. Who was top in the country on the GPS miles per hour in week one?

David Pollock (50:50)

Branch for, for Georgia, when he caught that screen was pretty dang impressive. I mean he caught a 1 yard pass from Gunner Stockton and took it 47. I would go that or some kind of kickoff return a lot of times because you get so much speed on a kickoff return. Does that count?

Brent (51:06)

Deep ball, think freak shows, Jeremiah Smith, Drac track guys that are now football players that we talked about that played in the dome in Atlanta. Nick harbor for South Carolina.

David Pollock (51:20)

What do you hit?

Brent (51:21)

22, 22.4 miles an hour. And the other. But the other cool part of that and the Reason I brought it up and the reason that the. The. Because I think this is a fun story for us personally. Fourth on that list at 21.1 miles an hour. Furman's Devin Hester Jr. How about that?

David Pollock (51:38)

Yeah, I saw that. That was cool.

Brent (51:40)

Which, for those who don't know, we actually played against him in youth league football when he was coming up.

David Pollock (51:45)

He was. He was. He was fast then, too. Hey, how about Peyton Thorne in the. In the chat? Don't think that's the Peyton Thorne you're thinking of. You guys think Oklahoma State gets in the playoffs this year? I think that's being funny. But how about the back and forth between Lanning and Gundy? That was so fantastic. Lanning's like, sorry, not sorry. Like, Gundy made a comment about how much money Oregon spends. And here's what Dan Lanning did. Sorry, not sorry, bro. I got a lot of zeros in the account and guess what? I'm going to use them, okay? Like, I got Nike. I'm going to use them. Like, I'm sorry, man. You ain't got that money. I apologize. And I'm sure it would be nice for you to have all that money, but I'm gonna take mine and spend it. So I'm gonna go buy the Ferrari. I'm gonna buy the houseboat. I'm gonna buy all the things I want because I have all those tools at my disposal. But we'll wrap up here. We're done here for tonight. We're also. You got something else homagey.

Wes (Producer) (52:43)

One more Note. Devin Hester Jr. Somehow not related at all to that. Devin Hester.

Brent (52:50)

Yeah, correct.

Wes (Producer) (52:51)

What are the other played against him?

David Pollock (52:55)

We. Brent wasn't lying though. We coached against him in youth league football. He beat us in the regular season. We took their hearts in the championship. That's just a side. But that dude, literally, he taught us about defense because we were like, all right, let's just play deep, Wes. And the problem was every. Anytime he got to anybody, it was too late. Like, if he had a full head of steam, it didn't matter. So we just put in the new 11 man front and just brought all 11 at one time to start going. No, don't let him get the started because it was an absolute rap. Hey, Wesley. Wesley. What do we got? We got. We got Gus bus tomorrow, a special edition. We texted Gus and he was like, hey, I want to. I want to see if he just. Come on, man. Because what a big week for Florida State and setting the tone for their season. And Just you know, I'm interested to hear from him. Like dude, you leave a head coaching gig to go to Florida State. Like why, you know, you, you recruited Tommy to UCF and now the, the outlook of the season and why he did what he did. I think he's. It's going to be one of the stories in college football. And then we got some, we got some picks too, right?

Wes (Producer) (53:56)

We got picks tomorrow every Thursday right here on the channel cball get ball. We have picks for the upcoming games. You can find us here every Monday and Wednesday night live at 8:30. Saturday night post games. I'm excited for the Gus bus man. He just looked like he was having fun coaching against the Tide. Brett Taylor asks 8:30 tomorrow. No, we'll have our picks up earlier in the day. Trying to wrap up with coach around lunchtime so hopefully we'll get that turned around and get the picks up way before 8:30 tomorrow night.

David Pollock (54:28)

Yeah. Peace.

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