Oregon-Indiana CFP INSTANT REACTION: Ducks vs. Hoosiers in CFB Playoff Semifinal

Summary

See Ball Get Ball with David Pollack

Episode: Oregon-Indiana CFP INSTANT REACTION: Ducks vs. Hoosiers in CFB Playoff Semifinal

Date: January 10, 2026
Host: David Pollack
Guest Analyst: Brent Rollins

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Episode Overview

This special live episode features immediate halftime and postgame reactions to the Oregon vs. Indiana College Football Playoff semifinal game (Peach Bowl). David Pollack and Brent Rollins analyze Indiana's resounding performance, Oregon's mistakes, and the implications for both the national title matchup and broader college football trends. The duo delivers forthright football analysis, breaks down standout player performances, debates program-building strategies, and dives into the future of targeting penalties.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Indiana’s Domination: A Program-Defining Statement

Indiana’s Play Style & Execution

• Indiana entered as an underdog by brand, not by performance. Pollack stresses: “If you take the logo off...that team’s really good. That team’s physical. Indiana consistently doesn't make mistakes. Number one in the country in turnover margin.” (02:09)
• Indiana jumped on Oregon with an 11-second pick-six, immediately setting the tone.
• Praise for Indiana’s discipline: “Death by a thousand cuts...just pure great execution.” (04:16)

Mendoza’s Influence

• QB Fernando Mendoza called the "dude" and “culture setter”—his leadership and selflessness galvanize the team.
• SEC coaches had Mendoza as the transfer portal’s #1 QB.
• “It’s more about Mendoza than it is...Indiana took a leap because of Fernando Mendoza.” (06:50)
• At halftime: “He’s 12 of 13 for 138 yards and three touchdowns. And they are driving again.” (08:55)
• Mendoza’s red zone stats: “32 touchdowns, zero interceptions.” (15:29)

Receiving Corps Praise

• Surratt receives a “Mike Evans” comp for his size and hands on contested catches.
• Cooper and Becker round out a complete WR group. “That emergence, that three-headed monster receiver. That’s...one of the things that’s just so hard to deal with.” (13:01)

2. Oregon’s Collapse: Turnovers and Roster Turmoil

• Oregon’s Dante Moore threw a pick-six on the first play and had two critical fumbles—mistakes Indiana never made.
• Halftime stats “almost identical,” but Oregon's errors made the difference. “Oregon making mistakes time after time after time and Indiana not making mistakes.” (09:03)
• Roster attrition: Oregon missing several key running backs due to injury/transfer portal.
  • Pollack praises Jay Harris (#22), who played despite being in the portal. “I respect the piss out of that young man.” (12:09)
• Speculation that coaching staff departures and the transfer portal have damaged cohesion: “It just completely crumbled on him after the mistakes early.” (11:46)

3. Coaching, Transfer Portal, and the Indiana Blueprint

• Debate about Kurt Signetti: “He hasn’t rediscovered football...His DC is a dude.” (05:52)
• The portal and billionaire boosters (Mark Cuban mentioned) credited as accelerants, but Pollack insists “it’s more about Mendoza.”
• Transfer portal and older rosters (COVID eligibility hangover) are giving teams like Indiana a unique advantage. (24:20)
• “I think people always copy styles and copy success...You seem to find in the portal a lot of guys with high star efficiency...or a guy that’s played a ton of ball, a ton of experience...they outperform their athletic ability.” (25:01)

4. National Championship & Broader College Football Trends

• Next up: Indiana vs. Miami in Miami for the title. Both analysts project a huge Indiana fan advantage due to their massive alumni base. “Indiana has the biggest alumni in the history of...in the world. Their living alumni is literally the largest.” (22:50)
• Ticket prices are sky-high, sparking a brief tangent on ticket apps and market demand.
• On conference strength: The Big Ten’s recent diversity of national title contenders shifts the debate from just “SEC vs. Big Ten” to coaching quality across both leagues.
  • “A lot of this conference debate to me is more of a coach debate...where are the best coaches?” (27:10)

5. Quarterbacks: Moore vs. Mendoza

• NFL Draft angle: Both Mendoza and Moore are viewed as future 1-2 picks. After this game, Pollack: “Is there any way that scouts are looking at that and going, I think I’ll take Moore? The answer is no.” (18:56)
• Moore’s development arc discussed; suggestions he should return to Oregon for another year to refine his pocket awareness. (18:58)
• Mendoza’s underrated athleticism flagged as a trait to watch at the NFL Combine. (19:27)

6. Targeting Rule Rant & Fine System Proposal

• Pollack launches into a passionate criticism of NCAA’s targeting rule, suggesting financial fines rather than ejections.
• “If you don’t want to do the targeting 1, targeting 2, replay, fine the freaking kids. Take their money. You want to change things, you take people’s money. Like, that’s the fairest way to do it.” (31:03)
• Entertaining exchange about the subjectivity of targeting calls; “If it’s your team, it’s not targeting. If it’s the other team, it’s targeting.” (33:12)
• Desire for more NFL-style review and appeals, lighter on in-game penalties.

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Memorable Quotes

• On Indiana’s Actual Identity:
  “If you take the logo off...that team’s really good. That team’s physical. Indiana consistently doesn't make mistakes.” — Pollack (02:09)
• On Mendoza being special:
  “It’s more about Mendoza than it is...Indiana took a leap because of Fernando Mendoza.” — Pollack (06:50) “He can do it all, man. And there’s a reason he’s going to be, obviously, you know, a top pick in the draft.” — Pollack (07:26)
• On Oregon’s collapse:
  “Oregon making mistakes time after time after time, and Indiana not making mistakes.” — Pollack (09:03)
• On Portal and Money in College Football:
  “Mark Cuban coming to the table and being a booster...when you’re a billionaire, Cody Campbell esque.” — Pollack (06:18)
• On Targeting Fines vs Ejections:
  “Fine the freaking kids. Take their money. You want to change things, you take people’s money...that’s the fairest way.” — Pollack (31:03)
• On Indiana’s Alumni:
  “Indiana has the biggest alumni in the history of...in the world. Their living alumni is literally the largest.” — Pollack (22:50)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:53 – Halftime show begins, context set for Indiana’s fast start and Oregon’s errors.
• 03:15 – Dante Moore’s troubles and Indiana’s resilience analyzed.
• 04:16 – “Death by a thousand cuts,” Indiana’s low-mistake game explained.
• 05:41 – Surratt compared to Mike Evans.
• 06:43 – Portal, coaching, and team culture discussion.
• 08:55 – Live update: Mendoza’s impressive halftime stat line.
• 09:03 – Turnover breakdown, Oregon’s miscues detailed.
• 12:09 – Oregon’s thinned RB room and Jay Harris mention.
• 13:01 – Praise for Indiana’s emerging receiver group.
• 15:29 – Mendoza’s red zone stats highlighted.
• 17:08 – Indiana’s defensive depth and surprise contributors praised.
• 18:56 – Mendoza vs. Moore as NFL QB prospects debate.
• 27:10 – Conference strength reframed as a “coaching debate.”
• 31:03 – Pollack’s passionate targeting rule/fines solution.
• 34:28 – Final remarks; Indiana-Miami National Championship previewed.

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Tone and Style

The episode is candid, energetic, and at times irreverent—Pollack combines deep technical football knowledge with his signature directness and humor. Both hosts maintain an informal, conversational atmosphere, mixing hard-nosed critique, praise, and the occasional rant.

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Summary Takeaway

David Pollack and Brent Rollins deliver a fast-moving, insight-rich breakdown of Indiana’s unexpected but emphatic run to the national title game, emphasizing the synergy of coaching, leadership, roster construction, and mistake-free football. Oregon’s season unravels due to turnovers, transfer losses, and coaching changes. The conversation ranges widely—NFL draft implications, the transfer portal era, conference strength, and even policy proposals for targeting rules—anchored throughout by respect for Indiana’s culture and execution and skepticism about over-crediting brand names. The show closes with a lively, forward-looking tone as Indiana’s Cinderella story sets up a unique national championship clash.

Transcript

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[Brent Rollins]

Pollock interception in the end zone.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Well, it's David Pollock and I think people gonna learn what kind of ball player is. He's got a heart of a line. I'm real proud of that kid.

[Brent Rollins]

This is C Ball. Get Ball. College football's top show for football analysis, predictions and coach interviews. Now here's your host, three time All American, seven time Emmy Award winner.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

What up guys? We haven't done this yet. We haven't gone live at halftime of the semifinals in college football, but it's kind of appropriate. Oh man, the Peach bowl did not go as Oregon planned. And listen, we knew what kind of team Indiana was and we knew how good they were. And you've got to if you're going to beat Indiana, which is. I know that still sounds weird for a lot of you and by the way, I had a buddy texting Me, who played college football, extremely knowledgeable college fan obviously. And the played college football. But he still called on the logos. The logos are still bothering him. And I'm like, because, because he. And when I say that, he goes, oregon's going to dominate tonight. And then after the first play he's like, still think Oregon's going to win? I'm like, have you watched Indiana like all year? Like if you, if you take the logo off and you put your logo of choice on there, you'd be like, that team's really good. That team's physical. Like Indiana consistently doesn't make mistakes. Number one in the country in turnover margin. Oregon had to play a really good game to win. Dante Moore had to play good. Dante Moore throws a pick six on the first play of the game, the very first play. Like he literally was asleep.

[Brent Rollins]

Just like he, he just. His body language was really bad.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

His body language always looks like that. Dante Moore is a flatliner. Like he doesn't. You can't tell if you just kicked him in the face or and shot his puppy or that he just scored a touchdown. Like, you can't tell. And it's probably something that's, that's. Obviously it has its good and it's bad, but here's the thing. Fernando Mendoza, ok, so you get the pick six. I love. That's the way, that's the way Indiana started the game. So 11 seconds in, it's a pick six. I love the way Oregon responded. It was an adult response like, run, run, screen, settle my quarterback down. I'm playing running backs that I haven't played all year because winning him's hurt and we got a broken collarbone, we got turf toe. We got guys that jumped in the portal. So it's crazy. I get it. I 100% get it. But I love the way they settled them down. I love the play design on the Johnson touchdown. I'm like, all right, 77. It looks really, really good. But Indiana just keeps coming and they don't make mistakes. They keep coming forward and Mendoza doesn't make a mistakes. I was talking to a coach in the SEC that had Mendoza number one in the quarterback transfer portal this past year. And he was like. And I was asking him, I was like, how is Indiana doing this? It's a guy everybody knows. How is Indiana doing this? He was like, the QB is the dude and the QB is the culture setter. Like Mendoza, you watch him and some people make fun of him and there's memes about him, but it's selfless. It's not about him. Leadership resonates to the whole team. And the whole team is flying around. No one cares who gets the credit. The downhill running game, so efficient. The passing game, so efficient. And here's the thing. If you're watching them, we've said this before, but it's death by a thousand cuts. It's just pure great execution. See, the leverage of the guy beat the leverage of the guy. The Cooper touchdown was a great example. Surratt on the back shoulders were great examples. When you got in third downs, that.

[Brent Rollins]

Those are the back shoulder, like the first third down the game, because I think it was run, run then. Then the back shoulder to Surratt on the first third down of the game. And you're just like, they made that. They make that look so easy.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

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[Brent Rollins]

Go for it. I was trying to think of one real quick.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Mike Evans. Big, tall, physical, more than fast. But a 50, 50 ball is not a 5050 ball. His hands are so strong. And. And listen, I'm going to push back a little bit on this, and this is probably going to tick some Indiana fans off. Like, Signetti hasn't. Like, Signetti hasn't Redis covered football and isn't all of a sudden the greatest coach in the history of the world. His DC is a dude. Like.

[Brent Rollins]

But.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

But I'm seeing all these articles. I watch all these players. No shift. So does everybody else. Like, everybody watches all these players. Like, that's not abnormal. He's not doing things that others aren't. The Portal game has been elite, obviously. Mark Cuban coming to the table and being a booster of when you're a billionaire, Cody Campbell esque. Like, that's.

[Brent Rollins]

He said they were going to be happier next year, I think is what his quote was. Or happier.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I agree. You start looking at Marsh and Hooper and these guys that you're going to bring in, but it's never going to be like this again because your locker room is different than it will be when you bring in different guys. You'll continue to bring in guys. It won't always be the right guys. That's just the way it works. It's not. It's not that he's not a great coach. He's a great coach. His dc, I think, is there's a reason he's getting paid, like, $3 million. Like, he's elite. You can't lose him. But Signetti is a great coach. I'm not taking anything away from him. I'm saying there is a timing thing where I think this. The stars align perfectly. And. And I. But I think it's more about Mendoza than it is. Indiana took a leap because of Fernando Mendoza. Like, that's why they went from good last year to great this year. If you put another quarterback on this, on this team that wasn't that elite. Because here's the thing. If you watch. So he has the timing, he has the run game, and then all of a sudden you get a little bit off schedule. They bring the house and he just bust out of it. Breaks a tackle at 65230, makes him pay, get you another set of downs, like, and then they run it again. And you're allowed to impose your will, keep your defense fresh. But. But the Mendoza thing, man, like, he's just a stud. And it's the timing, it's the rhythm, it's the strength, it's the athletic ability, it's the selfless list. Selflessness. Like, he just. He can do it all, man. And there's a reason he's going to be obviously, you know, a top pick in the draft, but another undressing a national power, like, of Ohio, State, of Alabama. Well, first of all, Ohio State, they beat in the Big Ten championship, undressed Alabama, and now in the process of undressing Oregon. Like, that's. That's a crazy run, man. A crazy run. And. And they've done an unbelievable job. Unbelievable. So I was. I was in the Mercedes Benz. I was around there doing a shoot for a documentary I'm doing. And it was 9010, maybe 95. Indiana. Like, it was. These dudes are so excited and so grateful to be there because they've never been there. It was so. The atmosphere was unreal, and it was a lot. Indiana, as we talk.

[Brent Rollins]

As we're talking, he's 12 of 13 for 138 yards and three touchdowns. And they are driving again and again.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Brent, that's not. That's not why they're winning. They're winning because Dante Moore threw a pick six. Dante Moore fumbled inside the five, and Dante Moore fumbled again. Like, if you look at the stat, and this is nuts, if you look at the stats at halftime, they're almost identical. Like, they're literally time of possession almost identical. But Oregon making mistakes time after time after time in Indiana, not making mistakes. And listen, those mistakes, the pick six was forced. That's great zone coverage. Great Break on a football was beautiful. The, the second fumble. The, the second fumble.

[Brent Rollins]

Not the running backs.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

He's running back on an rpo. Bad timing offense giveaway inside the four yard line. So you have two drives of four yards and zero plays. So that's really, really good. But again, but again, I think they own. They, they earn most of those. They're not, they're taking those a lot of the times. They're not getting given to them. But, but that's the reason why it's just, it's not Mendoza's numbers that are just absolutely stupid. Insane.

[Brent Rollins]

Do you think Dan Lanning when he walked into the stadium had some really bad flashbacks? Because the last time he played in that stadium, it was his first game as head coach and it was full of red because they played Georgia. So in those six quarters is six quarters 84. The opponent 10 him. Like not good for coach Lanning in Mercedes Benz Stadium. He might just cancel all future games that potentially get played there. Unbelievable.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Ryan Basel in the chat. Indiana is playing well enough to put Oregon in those positions. To make mistakes 100%.

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[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That's exactly what I was trying to say. If I didn't say that. I mean there's a difference between forced errors and errors, right? Like unforced errors and forced errors in tennis. You see that all the time. Very similar. They are. And then our boy Brian Fennell in the chat too, hit subscribe. Like all that stuff. Appreciate that.

[Brent Rollins]

Yes.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brent Rollins]

Thank you. Thank you, Brian. So it's now 41 to 7. They just scored again. He's 13 to 14, 1514 TD 7.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[Brent Rollins]

Like, well, and it's one of those where it feels like for Oregon, the fact that your OC and your DC are taking different head coaching jobs, the fact that you've got guys, the injuries and then also guys going in the portal already, like it's just all these little things and the, it just completely crumbled on him after the mistakes Early.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

And I feel bad because that was, that was maybe the, that was in the debate, in the conversation. No, it was, it was the deepest running back in all of college football. The deepest running back room. Like they had so many guys that ran physical, ran hard and then all of a sudden you're down to a guy. And by the way, can we give some props too? There's not a lot to give props to. But Jay Harris, portal. Jay Harris in the portal, number 22. If you watched him tonight for Oregon, still played for his team. I respect the piss out of that young man. Like, well, yeah, I mean he played good. Like he did as good as he could. Like he didn't have a lot of wiggle and. But I think to beat Indiana you need a guy with some speed. And we'll talk about Fletcher in the, in the matchup to come, but he did a great job by at least being there for his team with Winningham and others, you know, banged up.

[Brent Rollins]

So the, and we talked about this in the pregame. I think you got the throat, you got the back shoulders to Surrat and then Cooper with his wiggle and quickness winning in short middle route. And then you just throw the deep ball to Becker and he goes and dunks on a db. Like that emergence, that three headed monster receiver. That's. And like the back shoulder stuff to Surrat. I was sort of projecting it ahead to the next game because we know who they're going to play. They're going to go play on the road after having a home game in the semifinals. Basically they're going to go play on the road at Miami for the championship.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

They'll be, they'll have more fans there than Miami is my prediction.

[Brent Rollins]

Very interesting prediction. But the ball, the back shoulder stuff to Surratt, the ball is out so quick. The timing that they have is almost impeccable to the point where it mitigates some of the pass rush things that Miami wants to do and how they want to win. So that, that's one where it's, it's more on the DB than it is the front four.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

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[Brent Rollins]

Quick one for you. I just saw Mendoza in the red zone. 32 touchdowns, zero interceptions. So some of that's rushing.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

I'm not good at math. Is that good?

[Brent Rollins]

That's. That's. I think that's as good as it gets.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah. And you saw, like, you saw big Washington, the big defensive tackle for Oregon, have a chance to run with him. He's as freaky. He's on the freaks list, you know, for Feldman, he's as freaky as it gets in college football. Mendoza easily outran him. Like, easily outran him. And, and you saw, you saw Oregon get to him, you saw the freshman get to him that one time, and you're thinking, okay, maybe that's, maybe that will happen more often because. Because Indiana's fumble. I think they've lost one fumble all year. Like, literally one fumble all year, which is absolutely nuts. I mean, that's, that's. It's insane how well they've taken care of the football. Like, they've done it consistently. But Nazir Wyatt, you saw him fly in there. I think it was 30. Number 30. Yeah. Number 32 freshman. He got that sack. Slash sack again. Did he get two for that? He should have got two for that. But besides that, Indiana stays on script. They don't take a lot of negative plays. Yes. He doesn't take sacks. You have the back shoulder timing. So you got all that to go with a run game. That always Falls forward, always falls forward. That has answers to the test, you know? You know, But. But here's another thing, too, about Indiana, that's pretty dope and that you got to give some credit to. We talked about the loss of daily and that would be a big deal. Daniel and duke Way who.

[Brent Rollins]

17 is.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That his number 17 has never had a sack. He had two tonight. He had two tonight.

[Brent Rollins]

One was the trip sack.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

He had his first two sacks. Like, the dude hasn't played. He's been sitting on the sideline and you think that there's a reason he hasn't played, right? Like, hasn't. Wasn't as good and didn't deserve time yet because otherwise you'd want a healthy rotation. But guys coming in off the bench making plays. And you talked about Cooper, Becker, Surratt. Like, you've got so many different people and a quarterback that's going to find you. And not only did you have the back shoulder, but how about then you throw the go routes off of it? Like, so here's the thing. So if you're a db, like, you're always taught to stay in phase with. With a. With a wide receiver, and what that means is you're trying to like, run with him, like on his. On his hip as much as possible, like his back hip, to be able to see his change of direction. Well, here's the thing. I got to change my technique if you're throwing back shoulders. So now I'm guessing, like now if I, If I change my technique a little bit and I want to get closer to hip to hip to try to take that away. Now the go ball is. I'm more susceptible for the go ball. Like, so, you know, it's just a. It's just annoying. And then you got a quarterback that. And again, I'm a defensive guy, so that can be annoying. But then you got a quarterback that consistently sees leverage and gets rid of the football. And listen, coming in this game, Fernando Mendoza and Dante Moore, they are projected number one and number two picks in the NFL draft. Number one and number two. After watching that game, is there any way that scouts are looking at that and going, I think. I think I'll take more?

[Brent Rollins]

No.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

The answer is no.

[Brent Rollins]

And they're probably saying, hey, just hang on and stay at Oregon for another year. Get some. Because some of the pocket awareness things, all that, keep getting more experience, get another year starting. You want to see another year of him starting. And he's. I've even, you know, you hear the conversations. I think it was McShay actually that said something about go to work, stay at Oregon as opposed to go to the jets, that sort of thing. Which that's. I mean there's definitely. There's some validity to that. Very much so.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

And you'll get some. You'll get, you'll get. And now with the compensation being so high, but, but one of them doesn't look like the other. But what happens in the NFL process. And we're going to do some draft stuff, which I think you guys will like this year. Um, because we're going to talk to coaches that coached him during the season and players that are going to the NFL and all the guys that you'll know and stuff. But you think about Dante Moore when you watch him throw a football and you watch him warm up and you watch the upside, which is going to be it. Like that's. He's. He's got more. Like, he's got. No pun intended. He's got more, you know, he's got more natural, probably talented. But I think, I think people are underrating Mendoza's athletic ability and that's where I'll be interested to watch him at combines and stuff and what he runs. But.

[Brent Rollins]

Well. And interested to watch him in the championship game. Yeah, that's going to have to be a thing. Like his legs are going to have to be a thing. Oregon, they got down there and scored. So 41, 50, 42 to 15 now.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Oh, they went for two. Nice. So it's a big. Needed that. What's. Let's spin it ahead now. Let's talk about. Because we beat that dead horse. Because there was not much to it. You didn't need Edmonds for that appraisal like that was everybody, everybody watched that one. Spinning it forward. You got the beat down. The drubbing of Alabama, the drubbing of Oregon tonight. But Indiana, we saw struggle with Ohio State looked more normal, more human, right. Ohio State lost to Miami. So like you have those transitive properties, which I think is cool. I think people are going to immediately go, Miami has no chance. Because of what you just watched the last two weeks. Like because of the Indiana seemingly doing this. And then Miami struggled a little bit this past week. That's just my guess. My guess is people are going to be like, you know, it's Indiana, the clear favorite. Indiana is a clear favorite in my mind.

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[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Indiana has been the best football team all season long. Yes, it's, it's. It's very clear to see that. That Indiana is the favorite and Indiana has a lot of questions to a lot of. They have a lot of answers to all of your questions.

[Brent Rollins]

So the thing you mentioned about the crowd because you've. I don't know if you've seen tickets are pure insanity right now in terms of the secondary market for tickets for the game like 3,000plus to get in the door.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

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[Brent Rollins]

But that's just my personal opinion Game Time app little but but but I.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Will say who's going to buy those the most?

[Brent Rollins]

Probably the team that has now granted Miami hasn't been there in a while but probably the team and the fan base that's never been there.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Did you know that Indiana has the biggest alumni in the history of or in the in the world. Like their alumni is the largest. Their living alumni is literally the largest. Like things we're finding out about Indiana as they, as they rise to the top of college football and slap people around and have a chance to go undefeated.

[Brent Rollins]

I also saw you know me being in academia I saw where their admissions and people trying to kids who are trying to get into school they're going through the roof costs going up a little bit like the academic going to go through the. Through the roof as football gets good.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That's. That's the way everything works. If you go to Tuscaloosa and you look at Tuscaloosa now like it's total. It's not even recognizable. You look at Athens and that's what happens when, when you start to win. It's harder to people want to go there harder to get in standards raise money gets in more and more so it's, it's a, it's a part of.

[Brent Rollins]

It but I think of a holding call or already about house called there or no that's black but one of the things with this game is has Signetti kind of found already found the. Maybe the inefficiency is the wrong word but the secret sauce with having these Crazy experienced older roster.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Well, I, I, I think it's twofold. One like Indiana by the way has the most, you know, like 23 year old kids, you know, alive.

[Brent Rollins]

Average age is up there.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah, it's, it's high. But, but Covid was still a factor in that. So you still have an extra year because of COVID which is, which is running out. So that's not going to be, I.

[Brent Rollins]

Think after this year.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah, that's not going to be a thing anymore. Thank God. Like that's, that was a weird wacky world that led to, to other stuff too. Trinidad Chambers, by the way, not Grant.

[Brent Rollins]

Is the reason Carson Beck said Miami.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Carson Beck's the seventh year. Yes. So I think it's a seventh year, isn't it? Good sixth year.

[Brent Rollins]

I think Fowler misspoke on that.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Okay.

[Brent Rollins]

Because he started 2020.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah, well that's so, it's, it's a lot so that, I think that, I think that people always copy styles and copy success. So, so there's got to be something to, but, but I think the transfer portal, when the transfer portal era has started to trend, you know that direction anyways. Right. Like here's what you seem to find in the transfer portal. A lot of guys with high, you know, star efficiency slash high upside that you'll take a chance on because there's a lot of upside or a guy that's played a ton of ball, a ton of experiences in a really solid player and that's kind of like that. You know, obviously it's a quarterback portal, but, but like, like that's, that's what you're chasing, you're chasing guys with more upside that maybe was in a bad seal, a bad situation that you can maximize. Or you're chasing guys with a lot of experience might not be as good, but because of their experience, they, they outperform their athletic ability. Does that make sense? Like because you're you, you might not be Fisher at linebacker, you might not be the biggest freak, but, but you, you have been in the game. Know the system, knows the checks, know the calls, know all of this stuff. Like I trust you, you, you're going to play faster than your, than your 40 yard dash and then your, than your measles. And so yes, I think that's something.

[Brent Rollins]

People will look at Mr. Adam Brooks, WDE where you go in the chat. I think he hits it high floors. Like you're, you're, you're minimizing the minuses on your roster or the holes on your roster. You're Getting at least non replacement level play everywhere. And, and you see, you're going to see I think that's what the bigger teams or the teams that also recruit really well and keep a lot of those guys, they fill those holes with quality players and minimize the sort of minus or weak link in a system. And that's why you get something like this. You get an Indiana that's about to be 15 and oh, 15 and oh.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

A chance to be the third Big Ten team to win in three years.

[Brent Rollins]

That's their different Big Ten team.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That's what I was saying like in three years, three different ones.

[Brent Rollins]

So that's been a lot of topic of conversation recently and it should be big Big Ten versus sec. So I have a thought on that. That and even throwing in Crystal Ball and Miami in there as well. It's not like when I look at that debate it's like where are the best coaches? And right now the better coaches are in those places. Like Crystal Ball is a massive accumulator of talent and he's obviously getting, getting better as a coach and the sort of performance and the, the details and things like that signetti like Big Ten like you think about it. Dan Lanning didn't go take the Texas A M job or the Alabama job. He went to Oregon. Crystal Ball, he didn't take the Florida job. He took Miami. Like so when you had for a while, when you had Nick Saban and Kirby Smart in the SEC completely own anything. And when those jobs come up in that time frame when those guys were still going like they went to other places not in the sec, they didn't want to go compete there so. Well now think about the other places, the better coaches than you're at. And if you're the Big Ten, you're adding Matt Campbell, you're adding Whittingham, you're.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Adding, you're adding Pat Fitzgerald who's, who's proven to be a good coach, you're.

[Brent Rollins]

Adding better versus what the SEC just did. And they, they hired guys who've won but they've won at the G5 level. Like three, three big time spots with Auburn, Florida and Arkansas in a way. But they've added G5 coaches as opposed to these guys who wanted a higher level. Like a lot of this conference debate to me is more of a coach debate I guess is in a way what I'm saying.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Well and it's to me it's not a debate on which conference is more competitive like top to bottom. It's not a debate like but but if you're going to talk about best, you also got to take in mind the top teams and, you know, Ohio State and Indiana and Oregon, obviously being teams that are in the playoffs that you have thought had a chance to win it. Like all of them legit had a chance to win it. And that's got. That's got to be part of the conversation. So it's a. I think it's a legit debate now. It's definitely something you can debate, but what you can't debate is that Indiana is.

[Brent Rollins]

So as we're talking, it's fourth and three. They actually, I think that might be the first time they stopped him on third down. Well, maybe second time, but four minutes to go in the third quarter. 42, 15. How many snaps do you think Mendoza plays or Fernando Mendoza? Not his. Not his brother. The backup plays in the fourth quarter? Because I looked as we were about to come on here and do this, I was like, okay, how many? He played in the fourth quarter against Alabama. He played seven snaps in the fourth quarter against Bama.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

I wouldn't let him play any because I'd take it. I'd take him out now when he. I wouldn't let him. The good thing about this is, too, is the good thing about Indiana beating the crap out of Alabama and beating the crap out of Oregon is they play a lot of their guys a lot of plays. So to be able to rest them some and not have to go fight like, Miami was beat to heck and back. Like, yes, Miami was. Miami was losing guys left and right on the field. Mr. Lucas, by the way, I'm petitioning. I'm trying to get you that. I'm trying to get that targeting reversed. Like, that is such bull crap that we're going to go watch a national championship game and a guy's going to sit out a half of the national championship. And because it was a horse crap call, it was a terrible call. It's a terrible call. Like, NCAA does nothing, right? Just about nothing, right? Be a great chance to step in and do it. Like, it'd be a great chance to step in and fix something. They're not. They're not going to do it.

[Brent Rollins]

There's a lot of Pandora's boxes that have been open that might be another one that you don't want to open.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Fricking open it. Like, open it and save. Save the fact that it was a stupid call, it was a bad call.

[Brent Rollins]

I do hate the rule.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

The rule sucks. It needs to be addressed. Listen, here's the Thing in the end, if you don't want to handle this and you don't want to take this rule on, fine. Don't take it on. Brent. Find the fricking kids. Fine, dude. Do just like the NFL fricking find them. Like, if you don't want to do the targeting 1, targeting 2, replay. Find the freaking kids. Take their money. You want to change things. You take people's money. Like, that's the fairest way to do it. It's the way you do it in the NFL.

[Brent Rollins]

I think that's the first time I've heard that. Is that something you just thought of off the cuff there, or you've been thinking about that one?

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

I mean, I haven't just thought about it now. It just pissed me off and I just. It came to my sorry little.

[Brent Rollins]

That's actually, I think, a really good idea.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

I mean, you. You're seeing coaches find their players for missing things now because they're getting paid, and it's a way to. To hit them where it hurts. Like this. This is very simple. Let's. Let's find them. Like, let's not make this. Let's not do this, man. Where it's taking guys. You're. You're paying. It's so subjective. It's so hard to. To. To. It's hard to officiate. It's hard. Take it off their plate. Like, NFL has a fine situation. By the way. This is how it worked with me for my fine with the NFL Sunday. You got. You got a little ticket in your. In your. In your. In your box. You got fined 15k. Okay. You have a chance to appeal it. You can jump on a call. Jump on a call. Nflpa. Hey, we have the clip pulled up. You have the clip pulled up. Let's watch it. Okay. We think you do this. Well, I was doing this because of this. Yeah, don't think so. You're going to pay the fine. Okay? That was it. Like, that's the committee. Like, you have a committee that $15,000, like, make this. Make this very easy. Like, do a fine. The guys can still play. You can look at it retrofit. Hey, guess what? You don't slow the pace of play down. You don't have to worry about it. If it's egregious, there's. They do that in the NFL. If it's egregious, malicious, and nasty, they kick you out. Like, they'll kick you out of an NFL game if it's one of those. Kick them out of the game. If not stop doing this crap. Like, let me. Let me enjoy my football. Let me watch the best players play in the national championship game. Absolutely repulsive. So stupid.

[Brent Rollins]

Got Brian in the chat. Great question. Yeah. At least define it. He thought he knew, but he guessed not. And then we have a great response. Lauren Hamilton, who joins us, says, if it's easy, if it's your team, it's not targeting. If it's the other team, it's targeting 100 such.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

That's such a great, phenomenal answer.

[Brent Rollins]

That's a great answer.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brent Rollins]

But.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

But here's the thing. We watch this and it's not our team. Right. Like. And you're just as a fan. I like the comment and I agree. Depends on who you're cheering for. But. Yeah, but that one the other night in the Miami game, like, that dude was tripping, stumbling, fumbling. There was no place to hit him. It wasn't forcible contact. But, like, again, if you want to send him a. Send him a check in the mail. It's tax deductible. It goes to a charity. Pick a charity. Go make a difference in society and stop enforcing a stupid rule that you're costing me to do stupid things and lose my mind over.

[Brent Rollins]

And stop having the official guy on TV comment on it about what's actually being commented on the field because he's. They're usually always wrong. I feel like. I feel like I could do that job. Yeah. That's marketing.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Yeah. Somebody to do that. It'd be a fun one to do, for sure. All right. Well, we'll get out of here, man.

[Brent Rollins]

Barring the greatest comeback maybe in the history of college football.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

No, it's over.

[Brent Rollins]

Yeah.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

Indiana, Miami. Everybody had it. Preseason, baby. Everybody called that one. Indiana and Miami, everybody. Playoffs.

[Brent Rollins]

Miami in the playoffs. I know you had Miami in the playoffs. I don't think you had both in the playoff.

[Host (College Football Analyst)]

But. But that doesn't mean. I thought they were going to do. Listen, we were both Mendoza fans before this year. Like, we had seen him. We watched him like, so you knew he was going to be good. But we'll see you guys regular schedule. So we'll be back on Monday, man. C. Ball. Get ball. We continue to grow, continue to hit the rate. Like. Subscribe. Brent Rollins from On3. Brett Rollins from PFF. Always here. We'll break down the games. We'll break down all the areas. We'll get some guests. That'll be fun for the next couple weeks. But you got your national championship matchup and we appreciate y' all peace.

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[Host (College Football Analyst)]

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