270: Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore

Summary

Serialously with Annie Elise - Episode 270: Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore

Release Date: May 5, 2025

Introduction

In Episode 270 of Serialously with Annie Elise, hosted by 10 to LIFE & Audioboom Studios, Annie Elise shifts the spotlight to an exciting new addition in the true crime podcasting world. This episode serves as an introduction to "Clues," a Crime House Original series hosted by Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore. Known for her deep dives into true crime beyond the headlines on her YouTube channel “10 to Life,” Annie seamlessly transitions into promoting a show that promises to satisfy the thirst for intricate details in criminal investigations.

Introducing "Clues"

Annie opens the episode by highlighting the genesis of "Clues," emphasizing the collaboration between Morgan Absher, the host of the popular podcast "Two Hot Takes," and Kaelyn Moore, who hosts "Heart Starts Pounding." She states:

"Serially is hosted by Annie Elise... I wanted all the overlooked details everyone else seemed to miss." [00:00]

Annie praises the synergy between Morgan and Kaelyn, noting their combined expertise in dissecting notorious crimes. She elaborates on what listeners can expect from "Clues":

"Every Wednesday, Morgan and Kaelyn take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever, where a single clue can crack the case wide open." [00:00]

Hosts' Introduction and Roles

The episode features a promotional clip from "Clues," where Morgan and Kaelyn introduce themselves and outline their roles within the new series.

• Morgan Absher identifies as the "Internet sleuth," focusing on uncovering internet theories and peculiar details:

  "I'll be your Internet sleuth, pulling out the threads that don't add up or maybe do, and digging into the unanswered questions that still linger." [01:22]

• Kaelyn Moore positions herself as the forensic analyst, meticulously piecing together timelines and hard evidence:

  "I'll be pieing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything." [01:44]

Deep Dive into the Lacey Peterson Case

One of the first cases highlighted in "Clues" is the mysterious disappearance and murder of Lacey Peterson. The hosts delve into critical evidence that played a pivotal role in solving the case.

1. The Purchase of Scott's Boat:

   Kaelyn provides a detailed background on Scott's boat, a significant element in the investigation:

   "Scott bought it on December 9, 2002... he had never taken it out before. He thought that the day Lacey went missing was the perfect time to take it out." [02:31]

   She emphasizes the secrecy surrounding the boat's acquisition and storage:

   "He bought this boat in cash... no paper trail leading him to this boat. Feels pretty secretive." [02:31]

2. The Christmas Eve Use:

   The timing of the boat's first use is scrutinized, raising suspicions:

   "December 24, the day Lacy went missing, that was the first time he had ever taken this boat out." [03:21]

   Morgan adds a skeptical tone regarding the choice of date:

   "Christmas Eve. Why not? " [03:21]

3. The Hair Fiber Clue:

   A crucial piece of evidence involves two dark strands of hair found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat. Initially reported as one strand, it was later revealed there were two:

   "Two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat... it was wrapped up in pliers." [03:36]

   Kaelyn explains the prosecution's argument:

   "Because Lacy's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat, if not when she was alive, then when she was dead." [03:53]

   Morgan contrasts this finding with the nature of natural hair shedding:

   "I shed everywhere. Like, if you went and looked in my car right now, there'd be blonde hairs everywhere... it was the fact that they were wrapped up in those pliers." [04:19]

4. Contradictions and Evidence Handling:

   The hosts discuss the inconsistencies and potential manipulations surrounding the evidence:

   "Scott said Lacey had never been on the boat... he washed his clothes the second he got home. So all of that evidence is gone now." [04:52]

   Kaelyn adds:

   "It's a very strange spot for the hair to be... Maybe she hugged him goodbye, hair got on his shirt, it got onto the boat. But we're never going to know that." [04:52]

Conclusion and Invitation to "Clues"

Annie Elise concludes by encouraging her listeners to explore "Clues" for more in-depth investigations:

"If you're obsessed with the details deep into the Internet theories, or you love a good forensic twist, you have to check out Clues." [03:53]

She reiterates the essence of the show, likening it to having a conversation with a true crime best friend:

"It's just like having a conversation with your best friend, or hopefully your new true crime bestie!" [Introduction]

Listeners are invited to follow the hosts on social media and tune in every Wednesday for new episodes:

"If you want to take a peek into our case files, make sure you're following us on socials at Crime House and at Clues podcast on Instagram." [05:13]

Key Takeaways

• "Clues" is a collaborative true crime podcast hosted by Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore, diving deep into notorious cases with a focus on overlooked details.

• The introductory episode features an analysis of the Lacey Peterson case, highlighting the significance of seemingly minor evidence like hair strands found on Scott's boat.

• The hosts emphasize the importance of both internet-based theories and forensic evidence in unraveling complex criminal investigations.

Notable Quotes

• "If you're obsessed with the details deep into the Internet theories, or you love a good forensic twist, you have to check out Clues." – Annie Elise [03:53]

• "Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction." – Kaylin Moore [02:14]

• "I'll be your Internet sleuth, pulling out the threads that don't add up or maybe do, and digging into the unanswered questions that still linger." – Morgan Absher [01:22]

Final Thoughts

Episode 270 of Serialously with Annie Elise serves as a compelling gateway to "Clues," promising true crime enthusiasts an immersive experience that blends meticulous forensic analysis with the exploration of intricate internet theories. Through the detailed discussion of the Lacey Peterson case, listeners gain a glimpse into the depth and rigor that "Clues" aims to bring to the true crime genre.

Transcript

[Annie Elise]

Hey, guys, it's me, Annie Elise. And if you're enjoying serial lessly, I've got something that you need to check out. It's the brand new crime house original series Clues, hosted by Morgan Absher and Kalyn Moore. And if their names sound familiar to you, that's because Morgan hosts the podcast two Hot Takes. And Kailyn hosts the podcast Heart starts pounding. And they are now coming together to host this new series, Clues. Every Wednesday, Morgan and Kaelyn take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever, where a single clue can crack the case wide open. From shocking murders to high stake trials, Clues unpacks the forensic evidence and the obsessive sleuthing behind the investigations that still have people talking to this very day. Kin is your true crime expert breaking down the cold, hard facts of these cases. And Morgan is your Internet detective, going into like full Reddit mode to uncover the theories and the weird details that you definitely haven't heard. So whether you're obsessed with the details deep into the Internet theories, or you love a good forensic twist, you have to check out Clues. And check out this clip from their very first episode.

[Morgan Absher]

Hi there, I'm Morgan Abshur.

[Kaylin Moore]

And I'm Kayla Moore. Between Morgan's show Two Hot Takes and my show Heart Starts Pounding. We've spent years dissecting the Internet's craziest stories and the world's most chilling true crime cases.

[Morgan Absher]

And now we're teaming up on Clues, a crime house original show powered by Pave Studios. Every Wednesday on Clues, we'll break down the small but crazy crucial details that cracked open some of the most infamous cases. I'll be your Internet sleuth, pulling out the threads that don't add up or maybe do, and digging into the unanswered questions that still linger.

[Kaylin Moore]

And I'll be pieing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything.

[Morgan Absher]

We're talking about the hair fiber that sealed a conviction, a footprint that blew open an alibi, and the case that took decades to solve until some somebody finally connected the dots.

[Kaylin Moore]

And some clues are obvious, but some are hidden in plain sight. And sometimes they lead to places and convictions that no one ever expected.

[Morgan Absher]

So if you're like us and can't stop combing through case files and crime documentaries, this is the show for you.

[Kaylin Moore]

Tune in every week for clues where even the littlest details matter. And sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.

[Morgan Absher]

Today we are opening up the case file for the murder of Lacey Peterson. I want to get into a few more of these clues. But can you give us a little bit more background on Scott's boat first?

[Kaylin Moore]

Yes. It's important to know a little bit more about this boat, actually. So Scott bought it on December 9, 2002, about two weeks prior to Lacey's disappearance. And if you've been paying attention to the timeline here, December 9th is also when he told Amber Fry, his mistress, that he had a wife who had passed away previously. Just so we're all on the same page with that, he also bought this boat in cash, which when you also add in the fact that he was keeping it in a warehouse away from his family, no one knew about this boat. There was no paper trail leading him to this boat. Feels pretty secretive. According to Scott, on December 24, the day Lacy went missing, that was the first time he had ever taken this boat out. In general, even though he had bought it on December 9, he had never taken it out before. But he thought that the Daily C went missing also was, like, the perfect time to take it out.

[Morgan Absher]

Christmas Eve. Why not?

[Kaylin Moore]

Yeah, right. Five hours round trip. Can't get over that. Scott himself even said that Lacey had never been on this boat before. But one of the biggest clues in this case was found on the boat.

[Morgan Absher]

Which brings us to our second clue, which is two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat. Initially, it was reported that only one strand of hair was found, but months later, it came out that there was actually a second strand of hair that was found in the evidence envelope.

[Kaylin Moore]

And eventually, the prosecution for this case argued that because Lacy's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat, if not when she was alive, then when she was dead. Because hair wasn't just found on clothing. It wasn't just found strewn about in the boat. Like, maybe it had gotten on Scott's shirt and fell off. Whatever. It was. Wrapped up in pliers. Yeah, it's a very strange spot for the hair to be.

[Morgan Absher]

I mean, it would seemingly have to be kind of intentional for it to get caught. I shed everywhere. Like, if you went and looked in my car right now, there'd be blonde hairs everywhere. But it was the fact that they were wrapped up in those pliers. And it's not odd for someone to have pliers on a boat, especially when fishing. You know, you could use them to take a fish off of your hook or cut a line that got tangled or whatever. It's not that. It's the fact that by his own admission, Scott said Lacey had never been on the boat, Right?

[Kaylin Moore]

And again, too, it makes me think about how maybe there was a chance that he hugged her goodbye in the morning, hair got on his shirt, it got onto the boat. But we're never going to know that because Scott washed his clothes the second he got home. So all of that evidence is gone now.

[Morgan Absher]

Make sure to tune into Clues every week and discover the details with us wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kaylin Moore]

If you want to take a peek into our case files, make sure you're following us on socials at Crime House and at Clues podcast on Instagram.

[Annie Elise]

Thank you for listening. And to check out the rest of the episode and so much more, make sure to follow Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaylin Moore. Just search for clues wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every Wednesday.