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But then, as I'm sure many of you have seen, there is a new documentary on Netflix called the Crash. It is polarizing. Everybody is glued to it. There are a lot of conflicting opinions out there about, did she do it? Did she not? Was it an accident, what happened? Was it a medical emergency? All these things. So I did a deep dive on Monday where I went through, you know, we review footage, phone calls, timelines, receipts, screenshots, everything. Everything that Netflix basically left out. Okay. But then I was remembering, okay, a couple of years ago, back in 2023, I was, I. Someone reached out to me to participate in a documentary on this case. And with that, they sent me the police report, different reports from the prosecutor's office, all these different things. And I saved all of it. You can see here I have pages and pages and pages and pages. And I had, like, my notebook with, you know, that I was scribbling in feverishly all these things. So I was like, you know what, I want to just go back to all of that, really, because I remember there being like these really clear things, in my opinion, that were black and white that illustrated not only that she absolutely did this intentionally, but a lot of information about the parents. I vaguely had remembered some, like, sex, work activity. There were a lot of things. So I went back through all of my documents over the weekend and earlier this week. And when I tell you, we know Netflix likes to leave things out, or they don't like to, but they have to for legality reasons also, you know, you can only fit so much in a 90 minute program, but they're already in the deep dive from Monday. There was so much information that I put out that Netflix didn't include, but then I was like, wait, there are five buckets, five bombshells. I should say that Netflix left out the biggest ones in my opinion that I feel like give so much more context to this case and what the truth really is. I'm talking more information about her parents, her blood sample from the morning of the crash being disposed of by the doctor being thrown away. No blood, no drug test ordered on it, but actually like being completely disposed of. Actual past behavior allegations from her friends, which some people spoke out in the documentary. In my opinion, the majority of them were trying to protect her. But like actual testimony from friends where they verbatim say that she was constantly threatening self harm that you know, reference the toxicity of their relationship with Dom. And then also her own dad in the police report, which don't worry guys, I'm going to read these documents to you like verbatim. But her own dad in the police report saying that Mackenzie did this intentionally. And we also are going to talk about that whole sex offense section that was once again in the whole like police write up, but didn't make it to Netflix for whatever reason. So today I want to go through the biggest things that Netflix left out and I want to start with the parents. I have seen some stuff on social media since people have watched this documentary, questioning the parents remorse, their accountability, them trying to just protect their daughter, all of these things. But there are a few things, and I have my notes here, the police reports here, but there's a few things I want to go through this, go through with you on this because I find, I found this information pretty interesting and again I think it provides context. So I want to share it with you guys. So at 9:05am on August 1, which was the day after the crash, police, their police report states that her mom had said to the officers that her husband said not to say anything until they have a lawyer. We also did hear that in the documentary, but adjacent to that she also said immediately, this was the day after the cr. The crash. She said that she was worried about the public's reaction on social media. That was her primary concern. Within 24 hours of the first responders arriving to the crash scene, finding out that these two boys were killed, her daughter still in the hospital. And I want to read this for you verbatim. So this was at 9:05am and it says I'm gonna just, I have My highlighted section here, I'm just gonna, you know, go forward a little bit. So it says. I explained to her that once Mackenzie is discharged from the icu, I would be interested in interviewing her. She mentioned that her husband told her not to say anything until they have legal represent. Okay, fine, Fair. I encouraged her to pass my contact information along to her attorney. So we agreed that I will call her next week to check on Mackenzie's status. But then Natalie expressed concern about the public's reaction on social media as if that is like the biggest deal right now. And the reason I bring that up is because it all goes into perspective. And let me just continue on here. It's because actually, maybe, let me see. I'm going to just look at my notes. You know, actually, I guess I'll just talk this about. Talk to you about this right now. We did see in the documentary how wow. Mackenzie was recovering within just literal days after the accident, two days after the crash. I don't want to say accident two days after the crash. As a matter of fact, when brands were reaching out to Mackenzie on her social media being like, hey, can we use this photo? Can we do this? And her mom was responding as her being like, oh my God, we would love to collaborate. Like we've been trying to contact you. Da da da da da da. In addition to that, her mom was also allegedly like soliciting LA based modeling agencies, trying to get her daughter signed to a modeling agency while Mackenzie was in the hospital because she was starting to get some attention on social media. This was two days after the crash. Again, that's the priority. So you have her saying, we're so worried about what the public's reaction is going to be on social media while simultaneously trying to get her daughter signed with different brands and modeling agencies. It's so gross that that is where the priority was and that's where the focus was. Additionally, Mackenzie. Then after this conversation took place, an officer went into the hospital room, started just speaking with Mackenzie very lightly, not a full interview or anything like that. And Mackenzie had told the officer that she left Rosie's house before the crash, not Paul's. Now maybe that was just her memory being foggy. Who knows? Absolutely. But what I thought was interesting is that her mom immediately interjected to end that conversation before Mackenzie could even finish. She just cut her off and like cut it off, stop talking. Which again, I understand you want to protect yourself legally, you don't want to say anything that is self incriminating, but it's just a lot of Things that when you layer them together, it starts to illustrate, in my opinion, a pretty uncomfortable situation. So then later that same day, one hour or one. Sorry, one day after the crash. Police. The mom called the police around 8pm asking for MacKenzie's cell phone. She said that she needed her phone so that she could access Mackenzie's Snapchat to get a passcode. Now, look, I don't know how Snapchat works. I thought it was for messages and photos and videos. I didn't know that you would like house a passcode in there or anything like that. But she said that she needed access to Snapchat and she called multiple times every single day asking the police for Mackenzie's phone back so that she could access Snapchat. Which my first thought went to why she need to access Snap? Is she trying to delete stuff? Is she trying to hide stuff? And let me read this for you. And I'm just going to read snippets of like these documents that are in the police report, but it says Sergeant Nip called me to let me know that Mackenzie's mother, Natalie, called the station requesting access to her daughter's cell phone. She specifically wanted access to the social media app Snapchat. She said it was to receive a passcode. I told Sergeant Knipp that the phone was a material piece of evidence and that it will not be released until I apply for a search warrant, which at the time was with APA under review. And then it goes on to say how she requested it multiple times, kept calling back and like, was like a dog with a bone and would not let it go. Then the following day, on the 6th of August, so now, seven days technically after the crash, her mom called the police and she reported that there were mean people on social media who were blaming Mackenzie for the crash and alleging that she had killed Dom on purpose. So again, more of like, what's the public's reaction going to be now? Calling the police, being like, they're, they're blaming my daughter. All over social media, they're saying that she did it on purpose. They're blaming her. Just once again, like, read the room, read the room right now. Given the situation the following day, it was set to be one of the services, the service for Dom. And apparently Mackenzie was being very combative in the hospital. She wanted to attend this funeral. They advised her, you are not well enough. You can FaceTime in. It's not a good idea. But she was so determined that she nearly signed herself out. AMA against Medical Advice Officer. It was so combative, as a matter of fact, in the hospital. And that officers ended up being called and dispatched to the hospital. They didn't have to restrain her or do anything like that. The nurse was able to talk her into staying, but she became very combative. Officers ended up being called. And that kind of takes me back to a different incident when officers were called on MacKenzie, because in this police report, and let me pull this up, it was from back in 2020, so a little bit, you know, a year or so before the crash. And psych was called to her house because she was threatening to take her own life. Which if you remember in the documentary, her friends, her parents, they say she was net. She never had those ideations. She was happy, she was great. She had a beautiful life. But the cops were called and psych was called because she was making threats. And let me go here. It said, well, here. Back here from the hospital room, it said two officers responded to the room where Shirella was being treated because she was being combat combative. The officer stood by and they didn't take any action. Printout was added all these things. Female will not be okay. So then Here is the 2020 incident. It says the call was psych related. They requested assistance from SPD. MacKenzie was reportedly threatening self harm. She was. And the whole world, like, she was threatening to take her own life. I'm just trying to like, censor the, you know, the S word on here because YouTube likes to flag me. She was not transported for an evaluation. During the call, SFD requested the SPD officers respond. So the fire department requesting that the police department respond, but no reason was given. The following disposition was then entered by the dispatcher into the call. It says, female will not be transported to the hospital. Parents do not think that her threats are real. They do not believe that she will hurt herself. So there is, in fact a history of her making these threats against her own life. And we're only scratching the surface here. Like, just wait. So she, social media, she's being combative. The 2020 incident. Okay, all these things. Another thing you may have noticed if you watched the documentary is that her parents were basically like defending mackenzie to the ends of the earth, that she was a great kid, even though she was like ripping bong hits at 17 years old every day. But, like, she was a great kid. She never got into trouble. She was responsible. Even though I also will talk to you about potential alleged sex work in a minute here. But defending her to the death, right? Mackenzie could do no wrong. She's an angel. Well, here's how much they were defending her to the death. Okay. While Mackenzie was still in the hospital, as officers were, you know, wanting to interview people, get statements, get some sort of, you know, pulse check on, like, what was going on? What was the energy? Like, what's her history with Dom? Like, what's the. Was the relationship? Like, the mother was trying to silence her friends, telling them not to cooperate with the investigators, not to speak with them, and not to share details. In fact, at one point, too, which I'll read here in a minute, when the officers were talking to Davion's family, they had said like, hey, have you talked to Landon, otherwise known as Bubba, which was Mackenzie's best friend Rosie's boyfriend? They're like, have you talked to him? And they're like, oh, yeah. He actually requested to come walk Davion's bedroom the day after the crash to get some sort of peace enclosure. And the officer's like, well, he's not cooperating with the investigation. He won't answer. He won't let us interview him. He won't talk with us. Then they further went on to say that while Bubba Landon was at the hospital, Mackenzie's dad went up to him and said, help me save my daughter. Saying that, you know, not. I don't know. Like, that was after the mom had said to all the friends, don't talk to the police, all of this stuff. And let me read this for you, it says so. Next, I inquired whether Davion's best friend Landon Bubba Turner, had been in contact with them. They both. And this is Davion's parents. Okay. They both stated that immediately after the crash, he requested and was granted permission to walk through Davion's bedroom as a means of seeking closure. When I informed them that he was not cooperating with the investigation, they mentioned that Landon had told them about an encounter that he had with Steve Shirilla at the hospital. He was visiting Mackenzie, and according to Landon, Steve looked him in the eye and asked him to help save his daughter. Now this, I think you can read into it a couple different ways. One, why isn't he cooperating? The dad is also asking him to help him save his daughter, which I would argue is not a passive aggressive statement, but like a statement with a significant undertone to it. And he wanted to go walk the room, the bedroom, to seek closure of his friend. Yet he's not willing to cooperate with the investigation and answer any questions that doesn't make sense. How are you if you're so torn up about your friend's death, so much so that you need to walk his bedroom to seek closure immediately after. And you're asking his parents for that? Why are you not forthcoming with the police and giving them information just doesn't make sense. Right? So I already talked to you too about how like the priorities seem to be replying to the brands, contacting the LA modeling agencies, what the perception is going to be on social media, and her friend and her parents basically defending her to the death. Mackenzie runs the show, in my opinion, 1000% through and through with her parents. I think that she steamrolls them, yells at them, kicks her little feet, stamps her feet and gets her way every time. Because there are also direct quotes within this whole police report from the time that she was in the hospital where she was yelling at her parents, yelling curse words at them, telling them, get the hell out of my hospital room, get the out of here, don't talk to the police without me. At one point too, when the police brought what they had recovered from the car, there was like $162 in cash or something like that. And they gave it to her parents. And she saw, put that money in my bag. Put it in my bag. Like that's what you're concerned about when you're laid up on a hospital bed with a neck brace and like, you know, completely bedridden. But that's how she was. She was physically not, sorry, not physically verbally aggressive that we know of. Verbally aggressive toward her parents, spitting commands, doing things like that. This is not a typical 17 year old girl who has rules, a curfew, anything like that. She has entitlement. And her parents, in my opinion, enabled the entire thing. They're not yelling at her, they're not here. When she yelled at her dad and said, get out of my room, he left. He scurried out of the hospital room like a little fucking pussy. Like it's absolutely mind boggling. Then when like the parents are talking, please don't talk to them without me. She is the, you know, grown up apparently in this situation. It's unbelievable. Meanwhile, remember how if you watch the documentary, how her parents again were saying she was a good kid, she was responsible, we had nothing to worry about. No, she owned your asses, she owned you hook, line and sinker and got away with murder. Not a pun, not an expression, literally. Well, I guess she didn't get away with it because she's locked up, but you get what I mean. So now let's get into this part because in this police report, her dad said that Mackenzie did this intentionally. And I actually am going to just read this for you verbatim. So it says. According to both officers, Metro Health Police Sergeant Adam Doyle asked them about the status of this investigation. Sergeant Doyle further added that during Mackenzie's stay at Metro Health, her father told Sergeant Doyle that MacKenzie intentionally drove her vehicle into the building in an attempt to take her own life. Sergeant Doyle's statement, though, was not documented. In the only MHPD report that I was able to obtain involving MacKenzie. And I'm going to read this page for you as well. It says that when they were. Oh, sorry. Sergeant Doyle proceeded to recount the incident with Steve Sharilla on the day that Mackenzie was trying to leave the hospital to presumably attend Dom's funeral. Remember when she was getting super combative, she was trying to leave, they had to call the officers in, he said. Sergeant Doyle said, quote, Mr. Sharilla stated to him that they had to keep her in the hospital because she's already tried to kill herself and she killed those two boys. Now why this little tidbit wasn't entered into Netflix, I don't know. Maybe because it was recollection and it wasn't entered into an official police report, I have no idea. But I think that that's pretty major, right? That the father, within the first few days of this crash taking place, acknowledges that Mackenzie was trying to take her own life and that she killed these two boys and that it was intentional. That's a pretty huge piece of information, right? Seems like something you would want to know. So now let's move into the next bucket, okay? And we're going to talk about the drugs and we're going to talk about the blood testing or lack thereof, I should say. So let's talk about that night and the timeline. Okay, so we know that she went to Kelly's around 10 to 10:15pm there she and Dom reportedly were asking for acid. You know, they said, do you trip? She said, no, they were looking for acid. She and Dom then said that they wanted some and they left. So they arrived at Paul's house at, and I should say in between that period of time because they left about 20 minutes later. And there is a window of time about like an hour and some change before they arrived at Paul's house. There was apparently another house in the neighborhood where they did sell that, or you could would get that, whatever. So they then arrive at Paul's at 12:00am Paul was really tired, so at 1:00 clock he went upstairs and he went to sleep. He said that he woke up around 2 or 3am came downstairs to grab some water. He saw Mackenzie sleeping, but the rest of the friends were still awake and they were watching South Park. Then Dom starts sending his final messages. At 2:53, he texts his dad. Between 12:41 and 3:30, he was sending text messages to his brother, his friends, his mom and his dad saying, I love you. And then at 2:41am he tried to FaceTime his friend Blair, which Blair later said that this was very unusual for Dom. So the group then leaves at 5:30am and we know that the crash happens and all that, but here. I'm sorry, I think I'm going to sneeze. Here is what's really frustrating. There was no drug testing conducted on her initial ER blood sample because the physician canceled the order. The ER did not even test for drugs. And I'm going to go to this page and I want to read this again verbatim. So, okay. I called Metro Health Records Department to inquire about the Life Flight report and the toxicology report I spoke with. I'm going to leave it Blank. Who said that the Life Flight report will be included among the documents requested in the search warrant? Debbie. Sorry. Whoops. Okay. I didn't put a last name whatever. Debbie further stated that no drug testing was conducted on Mackenzie's blood because a physician canceled the order. I called APA Troop to inform him that according to the Metro Health Medical Records office, what was going on and that the ER did not test the blood for drugs. Then a blood sample from several days later, 3rd August, was taken and remained at the hospital and sent for testing. So that initial blood sample while she was in flight, while she was get, you know, getting help in the ER was discarded of based on the directive of the ER physician. Why? Who the hell even knows, right? So. And oh, here's another thing that's really interesting and frustrating. The sample from the 31st, the day of the crash, that was discarded and disposed of was disposed of after a search warrant had already been served for the sample. So let me read this to you. It says, I called MetroHealth's pathology department and I was ultimately transferred to core lab. I spoke with Blank, who told me that the only blood samples that they have for Mackenzie is from August 3. She explained that Mackenzie's blood from July 31 was disposed of per their policy, and it was disposed of on August 5th. It's worth noting that the search warrant for the blood was served to Metro Health on August 4th. The audio recording of this call was also preserved under the search warrant. So it's then further down, it says the MH Core lab disposed of the sample collected on July 31st. On August 5th. Or. Yeah, on August 5th, which was one day after I served them the search warrant. So why was this blood sample disposed of after receiving a warrant that they had to turn it over? It kind of reminds me, if you're familiar with the Karen Reed case, when all of them were, like, ordered to preserve their phones and they were served the order, and then the next day or whatever, they start breaking them and throwing them in the dumpster and getting rid of them. It's like, what is going on here? And I'm not saying that there's some sort of conspiracy or collusion or corruption or anything like that, but it makes you wonder, like, what is. What happened here? How did we fail this so badly? So then. And I know that then there was the blood from the third that was tested, and it showed only THC in her system. I believe that shrooms and acid stay in your system longer than a couple of days, so I would imagine that those still would have shown up on the drug test, but then again, I don't know. Also, there were reports that they were heavily drinking that night that certainly would not show up on a blood test days later. That's even why so many people, when they get pulled over for a potential dui, demand a blood test instead of a breathalyzer. Because by the time you get to the station and they have someone come in and perform the blood test, you've sobered up, and the likelihood of your blood alcohol level being lower is much high. You have a better chance. So she could have easily been intoxicated and wasted that night. We have no idea, because the blood was discarded and they didn't collect the new sample until the third. So that's annoying. Let's see. Okay, going back to the drugs and how. We don't know what drugs were consumed that night, what happened? We know they were looking for acid. We also know that there was conversation of the group collectively potentially taking mushrooms together. I believe, with good reason, that. But they've never been convicted of this, so I just want to be careful of what I say. But I'm sure you guys are all coming to this conclusion as well, that Mackenzie and Dom were drug dealers. They posted selfies all the time wearing, like, all this designer stuff they had. There were some selfies in this police report. I should pull up the photo where they have like stacks of hundreds and 50s and all of this money. And we know that at the scene of the crash, not only did they find 6.91 grams of mushrooms, but they found a scale. Nobody has a scale in their purse unless you're measuring things out to deal. I mean, unless you're like counting your macros. But it didn't really seem like that's what was going on. And in fact, which this was not included in the documentary. Rosie, the friend who was also defending Mackenzie to the ends of the earth. She had said that they had talked about potentially taking mushrooms together, but that they all decided not to. But what she conveniently left out in her segment on Netflix was that she and Mackenzie were texting the night of the party before Mackenzie even got to Paul's house. And Rosie had texted MacKenzie with a list of people who wanted to buy drugs from her. So, I mean, hello, the writing is on the wall. You don't have to be, you know, a wizard to see what's going on here. But it's frustrating because all of this information, it does give context as to who Mackenzie was as a person, her character, her lifestyle. And there's more. So now going into her past behavior and past threats, we heard that from her parents and from some of her friends that she never had a thought about self harm, that she had a great life, she was happy, she was looking forward to the future, she had designer stuff. She had nothing to be sad about. She was in love with Dom. Well, sure enough, after the crash, while this whole investigation was going down, there were several public outcries that not only completely contradict that, but also illustrate that Mackenzie was an extremely reckless driver and a furious driver whenever she got pissed off.
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So much so that a mom of one of her ex boyfriends contacted the police during all of this saying Mackenzie had actually threatened to not only take her own life but to kill Dom in the past as well. Paul, one of the friends, spoke with police and said that he refused to get in the car with Mackenzie because, quote, she was a bad driver and quote got into fights while driving. Rosie, the BFF Ride or Die who didn't want to say a single bad word about Mackenzie, had also told Paul, quote, don't go in the car with Kenzie. It's not good. In the documentary they also reference the incident that happened two weeks approximately before the crash where Mackenzie and Dom were driving. They got into a fight. Dom called his mother saying Mackenzie is acting crazy. He called a friend, hench, I believe it was saying you need to come pick me up. Like Mackenzie's threatening to crash. She's acting insane, all of these things. Well, when he called his friend to come get him, the friend spoke to the police and he overheard Mackenzie saying these exact words, quote or I'm sorry, not her. Oh yeah, sorry, her. I just. I wrote this wrong saying she will crash this car right now. And let me pull this up a little bit because I want to read this for you. Which page am I on? Oh yeah, well this goes. Sorry, I skipped a page. This just goes back to the dealing situation because it said Rosie and Mackenzie on the night of July 30th prior to MacKenzie's arrival at Paul's house. In the exchange, Rosie had listed the name of people who were interested in purging controlled substances from Mackenzie. Bam. Right there, black and white. Okay, so now as we're talking about this incident from two weeks before the crash, or maybe even, yeah, like a week and a half, she mentioned the incident from a week before the crash where Mackenzie threatened to crash the car that she was driving while Dominic was inside it with her. And let me see, there's one more page here. Okay, let me just fast forward here. Okay, so she's threatening. He. He's scared. He calls his mom. We know that. He said, she's acting insane. Like, I need. I'm going home, whatever. However, at the very end of the documentary, her parents, still advocating for her innocence, bring up text messages saying, no. Mackenzie actually was saying that Dom was the aggressor. He's the one who grabbed the steering wheel. He's the one who was threatening to drive them off the road. Well, those text messages didn't come from Mackenzie until after he had already called his mom saying what was going on. To which, by the way, his mom said when he called her, he was acting. He was totally calm. He was fine. He wasn't angry. He was saying that Mackenzie was the one who was combative, Saying, like, she's scaring me. The friend also who went to go pick him up said he heard Mackenzie say that she was going to crash the car right now. And so. And. And that Dom was calm and nothing like it was. It completely contradicts everything. So later that afternoon, after Dom gets picked up, Mackenzie then texts Dom's mom, saying, can you come get Dom? He just grabbed my steering wheel on the highway. He's trying to spit out my car and hurt me. There's more and more texts. And she said, he lied to you about it. I can't calm down when he just tried to end my life. Which, in my opinion. And look, gaslighting happens on both sides, in my opinion. We know that their relationship was extremely toxic. There was a lot of back and forth, a lot of breaking up, a lot of hatred. He cheated on her. They were breaking up and getting back together every other week. Right. Even though Rosie said it wasn't like that. It was according to all the friends and, you know, 180 pages in there, 518 pages of this police report. But I think that she was so desperate because she also did have a connection with Dom's mom. They talked regularly. I think she was just trying to make sure that she wasn't, you know, that the perception was that she wasn't the aggressor in this. I think this was all a manipulation tactic, being like, he lied to you about it. It was really him. Well, that completely is contradicted by his tone of voice when he called his mom. What the friend heard you say in the car when Dom called him, like. But once again, trying to make it seem like she is the. That she is the victim in all of this. Friends also were quoted in these police reports saying that she, quote, threatened taking her own life all the time. And one friend even said, you know, it's all the times that she threatened suicide. Mackenzie was also on antidepressants since middle school, but she reportedly stopped taking them because she didn't like the way that they made her feel. So could that be a contributing factor to her aggression, to her anger, to her ideations? Certainly possible. Right? Another thing that I thought was really interesting, in addition to everybody saying that she has threatened self harm and also has threatened to crash the car while Dom's in the car with her and all of these things, she sped all the time. She was a horrifically reckless driver. We already went through some of the friends saying how they would never get in a car with her. They knew better. They advised other friends never to get in a car with her, that she was just a bad driver. She also, though, would record herself on Snapchat multiple times going over 90 miles per hour, sometimes some even 100 miles per hour with her left foot. So constantly pushing the boundaries and taking chances. It's not like this was of a one time thing. And again, why didn't this get talked about that she would regularly speed and even document herself speeding? We know she documented herself smoking weed and driving, but why wasn't it called out that she documented herself going over 90 miles per hour, 100 miles per hour with a left foot? Come on. Another thing that was left out that I think shows her type of behavior, her entitlement, her, you know, untouchable type attitude, is that a week prior to the crash, she and Dom actually broke and entered into a church. This church had been for sale and abandoned for about five years. But they broke inside. They were taking selfies. This is all in the police report. There was about $85,000 worth of damage apparently inside this church. None of this ever went forward, obviously, given the situation and what happened. But they were hoodlums. You know, I don't know if there's a better way to describe that, but like dealing drugs, smoking weed, partying, driving recklessly Driving impaired, breaking into churches, all for these selfies. And it kind of gives, as I. Especially if you saw the documentary and watched her own Snapchat videos and all that stuff, it kind of gives, like, euphoria vibes a little bit. That show where it's like the jewels on the face, all you care about is how you look, what you're wearing. Their relationship is kind of like a Maddie and Nate dynamic, actually, if I'm honest. And it just. It's like glamorized in their lives. They. It's almost like they think they're living in a TV show or something. Another thing that I think speaks very highly to her character, or lack thereof, is that on September 17, 49 days after the crash, she went to a Kid Cudi festival and was partying her face off and posting about it and so happy. And we saw the thing about Halloween and all of that, but didn't see anything about that. How just, you know, a little over a month later, she's out partying. It doesn't show remorse to me. It doesn't. And I get it. You move on with your life at some point, but, like, I don't know, a month and a half after this horrific accident, when you were in the hospital for a big chunk of that, too, it's like, really? Really. And now I want to get into the alleged sex offenses, and I want to read this verbatim because I don't want to have anything that gets, you know, misinterpreted or room for error or anything like that. But it seems as they were looking through Snapchat history and as they were looking through her apps, investigators discovered that she was receiving quite a bit of money through Cash app, which could have been substance dealing, obviously. But then there were also photos that were reportedly being exchanged on Snapchat from her to other users in exchange for money. This is all alleged. Okay. But I'm going to read to you what was in, you know, the report here. So it says the purpose of the investigation into suspected sex offenses committed by Mackenzie was for the purpose of confirming or dispelling the possibility of her having been victimized and forced into committing unwanted acts. Detective Glover and I reviewed approximately 31,000 pages of material containing 93,000 text message exchanges between MacKenzie and Dom beginning January 2020 until July 30, 2022. The messages were obtained pursuant to the search warrant for Mackenzie's cell phone. Messages indicated that Mackenzie voluntarily engaged in suspected sex acts with other people, likely in exchange for monetary value, without being forced to commit those acts. So meaning Dom wasn't the one facilitating all this. She did this on her own. Kind of like in OnlyFans, but through Snapchat. Sending videos, photos, getting money in return. However, this was a point of contention in her and Dom's relationship. Here's some text messages I'm going to read to you in J. This one's from January 25, 2022. So, you know, seven months before, six months before the crash, Mackenzie wrote to Dom, you realize I'm just going to get a sugar daddy and start selling feet pics and I'm going to be doing just fine. So this is really your last chance to hand my to hand write me an apology or fix this or we're really done. Then in another text thread on March 5, 2022, Dom wrote to her, yeah, you let a dude fuck your feet for money like six months ago. Mackenzie replied, we were broken up. Mackenzie added, we were broken up and it was feet. Lmao once again, then leave. He's pissed because she I don't want to get too crap here, but let a guy have sex with her feet. You can illustrate that in your mind, how it works. I remember when I was in high school, it's called like, titty. That's what people did. But apparently feet is now something. But she's like, well, yeah, we were broken up and it was feet, so who cares? And if you have a problem, leave. That's what she's saying. Then they continue to argue about it well into June. On June 8, 2022, Dom wrote, yeah, I love you, but last time you started hanging out with her, you literally let her sell your body to that random dude. Dom added, and she hooked you up with the dude. Mackenzie replied, we were broken up and it was my feet. Do you think about. Oh, do you think about it more than I think about it? Dom wrote. You ran off and became a prostitute. Mackenzie replied, because I personally don't think it's bad, but if you do and we are together, then I won't do it. Dom wrote. You could never tell your family you were a pro. Mackenzie replied, because it's only my business and it's not soliciting or, you know, the P word process, whatever. So clearly he didn't like what she was doing in the many cycles in which they were broken up. And she would then get money from somebody from other men instead of him because he was the one who was bankrolling her life for the most part. But during the breakup cycles, she would sell photos, images, or apparently hook up with men, allegedly for money. Then on June 5, there was another message where Dom wrote her and said, kenzie, there is always going to be problems if you're hanging out with someone who got a dude to your feet for money. So this was a problem on all the way up until a month before the crash. Something that they fought about regularly. And again, if you see all of her social media activities she lived on portraying herself with this lifestyle, these designer goods, you know, hair and makeup, perfect sexy poses, all of these things. That's what it seems. And you know, rip and bong heads like that's what she prioritized. Now, this is just my personal thing that I noticed when watching the footage, and I've been saying this for years in the footage of the crash itself. And it's very difficult to tell because it is dark, obviously. And there's certain flashes and lights that are used that show things. And like we know light bounces off of windows and all things like that. To me, and this is just my opinion, you guys watch the footage yourself if you want to re watch it. It's horrific to watch. But to me it looks like when she is taking that corner very slowly, in control before then gunning it, it appears that Dom is in the passenger seat and that he's on his phone. Because I think what I believe I see is the light from his phone facing upward. It's a bright screen, it's completely dark car, but then a bright screen in his hands. I would argue that they were arguing about something. She was pissed he was on his phone, she was asking who he was talking to or something. And because she was totally in control around the corner as that happened. And then from there is when she guns it goes, doesn't hit the brake and hits the wall. And like we have heard from so many friends, so many accounts in the past, she consistently drove recklessly. She would always go over 90 miles per hour, even bragging about it and documenting it on her Snapchat. And she would regularly, okay, not regularly, but she oftentimes threatened to crash the car with Dom inside of it. So if there is still any room for doubt of whether this was intentional or not, I hope I just kind of closed the loop on that. And the majority of what I've been seeing out there from people who have either followed the case or watched the documentary, most people believe that she is guilty through and through and that her parents are obviously just as bad and they enable her. And hello, her dad. Look at her dad said she did it in the police. According to the police report. So I don't think that she has a shot with an appeal, but I've seen crazier things. Cough, cough, Casey Anthony. I think for her, though, she'll never admit to anything. Even if she's not gonna. Even if. Even if the appeal doesn't get approved. And it's like, okay, now you can tell the truth. There's nothing more that you're gonna face. Even if somebody said, right now, I'll let. Actually, never mind. I'm not gonna say that. But if there were no repercussions for her to tell the truth right now, I still don't think that she would because I still think in her mind, perception is all that she cares about. And I think that she doesn't even really have, you know, a remorseful bone in her body. Even the way she showed up on this freaking Netflix documentary with her hair up in this weird updo and talking a different way and things like that. It's like all she cares about is what people think about her and hoping and thinking that she is the victim in all of this. And it blows my mind and why her friends were so obsessed with her and still hold true that, like, she's the victim in all this, even though their statements to the police department in several interviews completely contradict that. It's like, okay, girl, bye. So that's where I'm at. I just wanted to throw these things out there. Food for thought for you. Curious to know what your thoughts are on this. Sound off in the comments below. Do you think that she will get an appeal? I know one of them was denied. Do you think that she's going to try to appeal again? Do you think she will get an appeal? Do you think that she is innocent? Do you think this was an accident? What do you think? I obviously have made my mind up, but curious to know what you guys think. All right, thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of Serial Lessly. I might have more for you in the next couple days as I keep, you know, unraveling all of these things. So make sure that you subscribe. If you're watching this on YouTube, press that subscribe button right now. And if you are listening to this on your podcast, I know you can't see what I'm doing right now, but if you open your podcast app on the episode, just go to the top three little dots in the right corner and press follow so that you are following the show and you do not miss future episodes. Other than that. I will be back with you again very, very soon. And you should go listen to the deep dive that I did earlier this week because I play so much footage in that jail calls interviews and do a full deep dive of the entire case. So go check that out. All right, guys, until the next one, be nice, don't kill people, don't drive like a maniac, and don't be a Mackenzie Shurilla. Sam foreign.
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Serialously with Annie Elise – Episode 400
The 5 Biggest Bombshells Netflix Left Out of 'The Crash' | Mackenzie Shirilla
May 20, 2026
In this bonus episode of Serialously, Annie Elise shares explosive details from the Mackenzie Shirilla case that were omitted from the Netflix documentary “The Crash.” Drawing on her years of research, trial attendance, and direct records from the police and prosecutor’s office, Annie aims to provide listeners with the critical context and evidence you didn’t see on Netflix—including information about family dynamics, evidence mishandling, past behaviors, drug activities, and potential sex work. Annie’s intent is clear: to go beyond headlines and documentary edits, delivering the story with all the overlooked but vital details that can shift your perspective on the case and Mackenzie herself.
On the Parents’ Priorities:
On Evidence Destruction:
On Mackenzie’s Mindset & Manipulation:
On Friends’ Contradictions:
On Netflix Documentary:
Annie Elise pulls back the curtain on critical aspects of the Mackenzie Shirilla case, painting a more complex and disturbing portrait than seen in “The Crash.” From the Shirilla family’s PR maneuvers to potentially tampered evidence, drug dealing, risky behaviors, and allegations of sex work, Annie lays out a web of red flags suggesting intentionality and entitlement. Her father’s own words to police, friends’ testimonies, and the nature of Mackenzie’s lifestyle all point toward an intentional act, contradicting much of the publicized narrative.
Annie’s tone remains conversational yet authoritative, combining investigative rigor with personal skepticism and frustration over the gaps left by both the media and those protecting Mackenzie.
“I hope I just kind of closed the loop on that… If there is still any room for doubt of whether this was intentional or not, I hope I just kind of closed the loop on that.”
—Annie Elise (43:48)
For more context, Annie encourages listeners to check out her full case deep dive earlier in the week, including jail calls and additional evidence review.