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Chris Evert
Welcome to Quick Serve, brought to you by IBM Watson X. Guys, I had a day yesterday. It was a long one.
Mike McIntyre
Yeah, you had quite the grind.
Chris Evert
It's a long one. It was a big one. It was. There's a lot of stuff. This tournament's long now. It was. Woke up with you chuckers in the morning, got a show done, went and did a clinic. It was pretty cool. Clinic. What if you showed up at a clinic? I did a clinic where I was by far the worst player in the clinic on the pro side.
Mike McIntyre
Now I'm interested.
Chris Evert
Who's there? The old Kim Kleisters was one of the players, obviously, so she's way better. The old Jimmy Connors.
Mike McIntyre
Oh, my God, really?
Chris Evert
Winner of eight majors out there on two metal hips just ripping a clinic. Yeah. How's this? How's this for a little stat fact for. For the chuckers and for you guys that don't know anything about tennis. Jimmy Connors won the US Open on three different surfaces. How's that?
Mike McIntyre
That's wild. I heard them say that during the turn the match last night.
Chris Evert
Yeah.
Mike McIntyre
And like Rose and I. Rose is like, what is. What do they mean? She's like over there, googling furiously.
Chris Evert
It was the best. So Jimmy coached me for two years, so I'm very close to Jimmy. He's the best. And so we finished the clinic and he's kind of like itching. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I mean, I don't know. I like two hours before I start my eight hours of corporate appearances. And so he. He goes, you want to hit a couple more? I was like, yeah, I want to hit with Jimmy Connors a little more. That's what I want to do. That's exactly what I want to do. So I'm going two on one. I'm on the one side. I have, like, a tear in my. Like, a slight tear in my tricep, so I can't really hit forehands or serves. So I'm just running, hitting backhands and bunting. Two on one, me versus Clijsters and Connors, like, just at the indoor center at the US Open somewhere. And then the fourth pro was Pat Rafter, who, if you don't get to know Pat Rafter, Sean, this is your guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One that opened in 97, 98. Ozzy dude. Everyone loves him. The coolest dude. Like, Marissa would have had a crush on him back in the day. I'm telling you. Like, she. She's like. He's like the coolest dude ever. He lives out in the, like, Australia now and just like, drives his tractor all day. Just. Just rip City. He's the best. He's actually Andre's assistant captain at labor cup, so. So came over, but. So one of those guys you, like, don't see around tennis at all. I guess you probably see him at, you know, down in Australia at the Pat Rafter arena every once in a while, but coolest dude ever. So I hung out with him all day. But it was, it was like a real treat. That was. That was a plus. And then the old Tracy Austin and Andy road show started. Till 10pm it was great. And there was some tennis. Everyone, I'm sure you wanted to hear about my day.
Mike McIntyre
At least you had some pretty, pretty good tennis to watch. Despite, despite the scorelines, they were extremely entertaining matches.
Chris Evert
You know what? You know what I thought, I thought Novak was, was great. Obviously he's, you know, most accomplished player of all time. 53 semifinals is. Is absurd in Grand Slams. Like, start doing the math on that where there's four a year. I'm not great at math, but, I mean, he's taken up a decade and a half just in semifinals. It's, it's, it's. It's bonkers. I played like nine.
Mike McIntyre
It's wild.
Chris Evert
Like, maybe I'm giving myself credit too. Like, it's, it's like really good players. It's absurd what these, what these guys, especially Novak has done to stats and, like, what the expectation is. I'm having, you know, people come up to me, like, Kenyanek and Carlos get to 20, and I'm like, that's just an absurd conversation to be having now. Like, they're good, they're, they're, you know, ball for ball. They're, they're, they're like the big three, the way they play. But to do it for 20 years, I'd say that I should say big three and Serena, right? That, that's the conversation is the big three in Serena. But to do it for 20 years is like the question that's, that's so hard. But Novak was basically like, you know, these guys, I'm, it's very clear that this is going to be really hard for me to beat these guys in a longer format. He's like, they're, they're better, right? And that can't be easy for someone to say who's as good as he is and you know, is never, you know, and it's counter. Like everyone when he came into tennis, Roger and Rafa were better than everyone. And credit to him, he was the only guy that wasn't going to say it. And look at where, like, I knew who they were, I knew they were, I was trying to beat them. But I'm like, I just got to want to, I kind of want to get one in. I kind of want to, kind of want to try to win one. And he's never said that about anyone. You know, I thought it was like the most sober, mature, you know, aftermatch press conference that I, that I've seen. He's just like, they're, they're better. Maybe, I don't know, maybe I keep going and I can sneak one. But you know, on the day, day after day, week in, week out, they're, they're better than I am. And listen, time is undefeated. Novak has given it hell. Like it's, it's hard to kind of play part time tennis, show up, and he makes the semis of the US Open when he kind of hasn't played. He played one tournament in May, one tournament in July, one tournament September, three Grand Slam semifinals. I never made three Grand Slams. I was number one in the world. I never made three Grand Slam finals in a year. It's crazy he did it in the last three months. It's absurd what he's done. And Carlos was just brilliant start to finish, wouldn't let him breathe. Opened up the shoulders as soon as he got a chance, open up the shoulders to the forehand. And then all of a sudden Novak has to protect that drop shot. Like he did not let him get into his rhythm where Novak would enter autopilot comfortably right he knows that. Listen, I have more juice in my ball now than Novak does and was just on it from the word go. You know, when you see someone in the first five service games and they're not getting through any of them easily, you know it's going to be a bit of a problem. Credit to Novak flipped it and then early in the second set got up a break. But Carlos into the US Open final hasn't dropped a set. First person since who 10 years ago to do that is it Roger Federer? That guy. It was that guy. First in 10 years to make it to the US Open final without dropping a set. And then we get to the night match. I spent all day talking about what FAA had to do to have a chance in this match. And it was basically unload the canister, right? He's going to try to pin you in that back inside. He's going to make you beat it. If you get a forehand, you have to unleash fury on on the ball. You have to serve massive. I said over 65% first serves to have a chance. FAA clarity of game plan in trying to execute was not the problem. I thought he was fantastic making this into a fight and he had a moment of hope there. Wins the second set early in the third set. He kind of had the ability. He was right there to shift it. But game planning wasn't the issue. It's so hard to beat these guys three out of five sets. They make you play outside of your. You saw FAA go into the chip. He doesn't like chipping, but he had to mix it up. He had to give Jannik sinner something that wasn't predictable. He served in volley a little bit. That's not something you see him do that often. He lost the Yannick. Oh and two in cincinnat. Like he was great and Jannik was off. I mean these guys are so good. He was off a little bit. Served, you know, 40 something percent first serves. Which is not going to work by the way in the final against Carlos if he does that. But off but still wins in four. Like in FAA played per execution is different. You wish you would have made one more ball. So you know, don't write to me. He should have made that forehand at break point. Yeah, we all try to make. We're all trying our best to make the shots. But. But clarity of game plan and what he knew that he had to do, unloading forehands, going massive on serve. He did what he had to do. And Yana kind of took the brunt of it. But when you're playing best of five, longer format, you need more than like a 45 minute, you know, sugar rush. It's just they ask so much of you all the time, you know, I don't think there's much daylight between the two of them, Carlos and Jannik right now. And I think there's a lot of daylight between them and everyone else. 38 years old, Novak, third best player in the world this year. And I don't know how you argue around it. It's. It's absurd. Like for cont. Like I was with Jimmy yesterday, Connors, he was 39 when he made the run and it was like the craziest thing we'd ever seen.
Mike McIntyre
Yeah.
Chris Evert
It's like, oh my God, how could this guy make the semis? And it's like, no, that's like, I did it four times this year. Yeah, he's like, I did it, I did it four times this year. What of it?
Mike McIntyre
It's unbelievable, absurd.
Chris Evert
What'd you see, Mike? Any, any, any thoughts?
Mike McIntyre
No, I, I think, I think it's that, right? I think like you said, Novak in his post game press conference was talking about, he's like, maybe in three sets, maybe I can get these guys right? And I think that was, that's what it is. This long format is just you, you need everything, right? It's not just power, it's not just more knowledge. It's not. It all needs to come together. And then when you throw these two players in there, like it needs to be even more perfect than that.
Chris Evert
Yeah. It's what it is. This is probably a stupid analogy or an obvious one, but like, think about it. Like you can run fast, right? Everyone can sprint. Everyone has their top gear. Is it easier to sprint for like 30 yards? Sprinting for 300 meters is a lot harder. That's what the ask is, right? We can all be, we're not like, oh, my top speed is X Great. Is your top Speed X for 40 seconds? No, it's your top speeds X for like 12 seconds. Yeah. The other thing, you guys ever thought about it? We've talked about this before, Mike. This is an aside, has nothing to do with tennis. Before we get to Anova and Sabalenka, when you're a kid, right? When you're like 8 years old, you know how all of your friends run, like their running style. Like, you know, Timmy's like, you know, he's, he's got like a low foot run. Or like someone else gets it above Their hip. At what age do you never see your friends run before? Like, I've never seen Sean run. I've never seen you run. You don't know the running styles of any of your homies anymore. Yeah, I saw my buddy Jonathan run up a hill and it almost blew my mind. I was like, that's how you run. Like, at what age does that happen? Like, all of a sudden it's gone. And I think mine was longer than most because my buddies were tennis players, so I knew how they run.
Mike McIntyre
Yeah.
Chris Evert
When you're seven, you know the detailed intricacies of how Megan and Robert run. Yeah. You know everybody's gate, you know everyone's gait. When do we stop knowing gate?
Mike McIntyre
Now.
Chris Evert
I mean, definitely I'm never going to sprint again in my life. No one's ever going to see it. No top speed, 80% maybe no hamstring.
Mike McIntyre
It's all form over function now. It's just. It's only going to look good. It's not going to go more than a. A light jog.
Chris Evert
It seems weird. I'm going to, I'm going to. At some point, I'm going to be friends with someone else and I'm going to be like, bro, I don't know you. Really, I don't. I don't know.
Mike McIntyre
You're gay. Is when somebody jog walks across, like, the street when even that gets weird. Even that gets weird. They get.
Chris Evert
I'm like, that's how you jog walk. It's like you just told me about annuities for two hours and that's how you jog walk. There's no way. Hold on, hold on, hold on one second. Hello? Yes. Okay, great. Thank you.
Mike McIntyre
Was that, Was that IBM Watson X calling you to tell us the likelihood percentages?
Chris Evert
Yeah, sure. For this show. I was. It was actually. It was actually breakfast. Sorry. All right, tell me, tell me what you. You. Feels like you were leading me down.
Mike McIntyre
The trail right now.
Chris Evert
Feels like I. I'm not done with the running thing. This really bothers me. But go ahead, tell me about Abby and Watson X.
Mike McIntyre
If I, If I was to give you this likelihood to win present IBM Watson X, who would you say is which percentage? Currently it's 55%, 45%. Who is the 55%?
Chris Evert
You're asking me this because it's probably Ana Samova for some reason, like, because she's five and three or six and three all time against Sabalenka. There's a recency bias. She just beat her in the Wimbledon final.
Mike McIntyre
3.
Chris Evert
Yeah, it's. It's strange. Like, I was with Tracy yesterday, and she's like, anisa Moba is going to win. Love that it's there. It's all matchups, right? Like, and I don't know where I'm at. Don't listen to me. I'm not. I fucking give up. Because I suck at predictions, but it's the worst. I hate doing it. But here we are. But, like, matchup wise, she's one of the only people on earth that can match Sabalenka's power and give it back, right? Sabalenka, if she goes powerful and keeps it through the middle, that's like, where. That's where Anisimova wants to live, right? Where Saba likes to attack people is where Anna Samova wants to live. And Ana Samova, can we. Like, she's. She's so tough, man. And we'll get to Sabalenka because everyone knows I'm a. I'm a huge fan of hers, too, but Anisimova, oh, and, oh. In a Grand Slam final that has a tail, not only. Not only. Not only did she come back and play a full schedule, and she didn't make the finals of the lead in tournaments, but she was winning matches every week, right? Like, she was. She was back. She was back on the horse, like, back doing it. She's fitter than she was at Wimbledon. She doesn't have to run much because she creates so much speed. And listen. And also these two, the thing that I. It just blows my mind is their ability to hit it as hard as they hit it, Miss a couple and swing harder the next time. I didn't have that in my game, right? A lot of people's nature, go big, big, big. You missed three. You flag three. I'm. I'm bringing it down a notch. I'm putting the ball in play for a little bit till I kind of.
Mike McIntyre
You mean early in the match, if you're flagging a few and you're like, oh, okay, it's not there today. You're going to dial it back.
Chris Evert
It's.
Mike McIntyre
It's like, keep it alive.
Chris Evert
Yeah, it's like. I mean, it's like a Steph Curry pulling up from 28ft, missing four, and being like, no, fuck it, I'm Steph Curry. Here's, here's, here's, here's 29ft and Drano. Like, I would need. I would want, like, a cut. I would want, like, a layup. I'd want to pull up and hit a 10 footer just to get back into like the rhythm of, of the game. Maybe that's why I wasn't as good. But, but I. It's not shocking to me to hear that stat based on one recency. Head to head. And it's, it's strange. They gave Ana Simova. They're seeing something. Abby M. Watson, something ahead of 71% over Osaka the other day. Right. They have 55% today. I'm not surprised. Now we'll see Grand Slam final. They're both bringing in a little bit of baggage from 0 and oh. In the last grand. In the first Grand Slam final that she ever played. And then Sabalenka was the favorite against Matty Keys. Maddie Keys played a phenomenal match, like actually out outplayed arena that day against Coco. She was the favorite and lost. And Coco got her into spots on a windy day where she turned it into like a gutter fight. Right. Where it was like, we're gonna, you're gonna deal the elements. I'm gonna get one more ball. Kind of outwilled her there. And then at Wimbledon, she was the favorite against Anna Samova. Maybe not by IBM, Watson X, but the rest of us thought so. The rest of us dummies thought so. So she's bringing some baggage in. Right? I. Am I gonna be number one in the world without having won a slam this year? Like it takes a special kind of talent for that to be your problem. Like what a problem to have. I'm gonna be number one this year, but it wasn't the way that I wanted it to be. Um, it's. It's fascinating. But yeah, I think Anisa Mova has a, has a real shot. I really do.
Mike McIntyre
Can I ask you. I'm looking at their tournament stats. They're pretty even all the way through. Like they're. They're only off by. By a little bit. Some of it might be errors, but it's. Sabalenka leads in all of them. But it's. I'm not going to go through all of them, but the one that sticks out is her service games. One is 92% versus Anisimova's 79%. Do you think that'll be something like that can just be the simple difference maker or is it. Is it a multitude of things?
Chris Evert
Yeah. The only issue with a lot of the data is it doesn't account like that assumes they're all playing the same person. It's kind of like what Brad was talking about the other day, right? Like it's matchups. It's like, okay, if you're playing Osaka and she's going rip City on serves, like, it's different. I mean, holding against Pula that much is a huge deal. But a lot of these things are matchups, you know, so you put enough data points in. Does it account for everything? No. Do you have a better look at what, at what you're trying to piece together for an opinion? Absolutely, absolutely. But, yeah, I mean, those, those stats matter, but also the matchup, I always think matters more. Right. Playing Sabalenka, playing, you know, Ana Samova, if she, you know, who she had to go through as far as returners matters. So. But those are both really high numbers. I mean, you said Sabalenka is holding 92% of the time.
Mike McIntyre
92% of service games won.
Chris Evert
That's a matt.
Mike McIntyre
That's 79 with Anisomova.
Chris Evert
That has to be kind of near. I don't want to be hyperbolic here. 92% has to be kind of. I wonder what the all time record for hold percentage is. It's probably like Steffi, when she just wasn't losing games, but in the last 15, 20 years, I'm guessing the only person that touches that status, Serena, for an entire tournament. Yeah, that's a, that's a Mass. And 92%, especially on the, on the women's side, where there are more breaks. That's a massive number. Those are both, like, I would guess that they would have taken those numbers coming into this tournament. Both of them.
Mike McIntyre
Yeah.
Chris Evert
Yeah. That's a, that's a massive deal. I don't know. I'm excited for it. Another day at the tennis boys, another clinic, another Tracy Austin Rip City for seven hours work. Wife ready.
Mike McIntyre
I know we need to get, we need to get you guys a bit at the Comedy Cellar. I think our audience didn't get enough of what you guys are like walking through the bowels of the Arthur Ashe Stadium. It is laugh city. It's hilarious.
Chris Evert
Yeah, I've been hitting it with this one, right? This one is getting the. And maybe I even said it on the show. Where I really get screwed is where I say something here and then we have a listener who's listening to my pitch and they're like, we've heard that already. I was like, it's always a new joke if someone hasn't heard it. I'm going. The most confusing question I get these days is, they say, if you were coaching against Yannick Sinner, what would you do? And I go, well, I've thought about this and I think it starts with prayer. Hit him. Bang. Anyways, we, we have a couple of great finals. I'll tell you one thing that's a guarantee over the next couple days there will be some pace injected into the ball in both of these. Really curious to see what the balls and strikes are with Alcaraz and center. We'll get more into that maybe tomorrow morning. A longer form breakdown of the X's and O's of that one. Until then, this has been Quick Serve brought to you by IBM Watson X. They got the Ole Samova 55 percenter. We'll see. Thanks for watching.
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Date: September 6, 2025
Host: Andy Roddick (as Chris Evert, likely standing in for Andy this episode), with Mike McIntyre
Guests/Recurring Voices: Tracy Austin, Jon Wertheim (not featured in this particular episode)
In this engaging and insightful episode, the hosts break down the 2025 US Open Men's semi-final results, focusing on the extraordinary runs from established legends like Novak Djokovic and the new era stars Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner. The show also previews the women’s final between Aryna Sabalenka and Amanda Anisimova, analyzing matchups, head-to-head stats, and tactical nuances, while sprinkling in behind-the-scenes anecdotes and off-beat tennis humor.
"I did a clinic where I was by far the worst player in the clinic on the pro side."
(01:10 – Chris Evert)
Novak Djokovic vs Carlos Alcaraz:
"53 semifinals is absurd in Grand Slams. Like, start doing the math on that where there’s four a year... he’s taken up a decade and a half just in semifinals."
(03:58 – Chris Evert)
"[Novak] is just like, ‘they’re better. Maybe, I don’t know, maybe I keep going and I can sneak one. But you know, on the day, day after day, week in, week out, they’re better than I am.’"
(04:52)
"Carlos into the US Open final hasn’t dropped a set. First person since who 10 years ago to do that is it Roger Federer? That guy."
(06:18)
Jannik Sinner vs Felix Auger-Aliassime (FAA):
"It's so hard to beat these guys three out of five sets. They make you play outside of your... when you’re playing best of five, longer format, you need more than like a 45 minute sugar rush."
(08:38 – Chris Evert)
"I think it’s that, right? ...This long format is just, you need everything, right? It’s not just power, it’s not just more knowledge. ...It all needs to come together."
(10:00 – Mike McIntyre)
"You can run fast, right? Everyone can sprint. Is it easier to sprint for 30 yards? Sprinting for 300 meters is a lot harder. That’s what the ask is."
(10:27 – Chris Evert)
The hosts dig into IBM Watson X’s probability (55% chance for Anisimova):
"You're asking me this because it's probably Ana Samova for some reason... There's a recency bias. She just beat her in the Wimbledon final."
(13:21 – Chris Evert)
Break down the matchup dynamic:
"In a Grand Slam final... she didn’t make the finals of the lead-in tournaments, but she was winning matches every week... She’s fitter than she was at Wimbledon."
(14:14 – Chris Evert)
On the stats:
"92% has to be kind of near... I wonder what the all-time record for hold percentage is. It’s probably like Steffi... in the last 15, 20 years, I’m guessing the only person that touches that status, Serena, for an entire tournament."
(18:30 – Chris Evert)
On Novak’s Era-Spanning Success:
"I never made three Grand Slam finals in a year. I was number one in the world. It’s crazy he did it in the last three months."
(05:44 – Chris Evert)
On Facing Sinner:
“The most confusing question I get these days is, they say, if you were coaching against Yannick Sinner, what would you do? And I go, well, I’ve thought about this and I think it starts with prayer. Hit him. Bang.”
(19:36 – Chris Evert)
On Women’s Final Previews:
"She’s so tough, man. ...Their ability to hit it as hard as they hit it, miss a couple and swing harder the next time. ...It’s like a Steph Curry pulling up from 28ft, missing four, and being like, no, fuck it, I’m Steph Curry. Here’s 29ft and Drano."
(15:22 – Chris Evert)
On Service Stats:
“92% [hold] has to be kind of near... the all-time record. ...On the women’s side, where there are more breaks, that’s a massive number.”
(18:30 – Chris Evert)
Summary prepared for listeners who may have missed the show—skip the rest days because this one’s match point.