AO SEMI-FINAL MADNESS! 🚨 38yo Novak Schools Sinner + Alcaraz "Camping" Controversy | Andy Roddick Reacts

Summary

Served with Andy Roddick: AO SEMI-FINAL MADNESS! 🚨 38yo Novak Schools Sinner + Alcaraz "Camping" Controversy | Andy Roddick Reacts

Date: January 30, 2026
Host: Andy Roddick
Guest/Co-host: (unidentified, possibly Jon Wertheim)

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Overview

This episode of "Served with Andy Roddick" delivers immediate, passionate reactions to an electric semifinal day at the 2026 Australian Open. Roddick and co-host break down two thrilling matches: Novak Djokovic’s historic win over Jannik Sinner and a controversial, drama-filled battle where Carlos Alcaraz edged Alexander Zverev. The conversation combines gritty technical analysis, first-hand tennis insight, and characteristic Andy Roddick candor—swinging from awe at Novak’s masterful match management to a candid, nuanced discussion of rule loopholes and sportsmanship.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Historic Novak Djokovic Victory Over Jannik Sinner

• Greatest Semifinal Day?

  • The episode opens with palpable excitement: “Is this the greatest semifinal day ever? ...means it's one of the greatest days ever. Yeah. Absurd.” (00:21 - Andy)
  • Roddick expresses real-time adrenaline from Djokovic’s performance.

• Djokovic’s Strategic Brilliance and Match Management

  • In-depth praise for Novak’s ability to ‘invest in long rallies’ when needed, ‘give away’ certain games, and meticulously manage his energy, especially at age 38.
    • “He should throw this game away...because he has to actually serve the next game and protect his legs.” (02:16 - Andy)
    • “All of those little points of maybe I'm congrats 2% here. If I go aggressive and throw away these two points, then I'll have my legs for the serve in the next game.” (03:17 - Andy)
  • The co-host stresses Novak's tactical decisions at crucial moments, particularly when deciding whether to expend effort trying to break late in a set versus saving energy for his own serve.
    • “If it's 30 love, he's taking the first ball. I go, we're not going to see a rally go past six balls...it is in saving my legs to make first serves in the last game.” (04:07 - Andy)
  • Notably, Eubanks (referenced by Andy) calls Djokovic’s approach a "business decision—not tanking," which Andy fully endorses. (05:00)

• Physicality and Longevity

  • Highlighting the 14-year age gap between Djokovic and Sinner and expressing bewilderment at Novak's continued dominance:
    • “If anyone asks Novak about retirement in the next six months, they should be fired.” (06:39 - Andy)
  • Roddick compares Sinner to future all-time greats: “Imagine doing that at 38 years old versus someone we're going to look back on and say this guy won 10 majors...Sinner might win 20 majors.”

• Mental Fortitude and Emotional Control

  • A memorable, vivid metaphor:
    • “It's like going into a hotel room of emotion, throwing your shit everywhere, but then being able to pick it up real quick and have it orderly again at some point.” (08:13 - Andy)
  • Describes how Novak vents to his team between points, then snaps back into focus instantly—calling it a “hotel room of emotion.”

• The “Rope-a-Dope” Point and Flexibility

  • Describes a pivotal moment where Djokovic feigns expectation that Sinner's shot might go out and then instantly pivots for a winner—a sign of elite anticipation and improvisation. (08:55)

• Match Stats Undervalue Novak's Skills

  • Surprised by stats favoring Sinner (more aces, higher first serve %), Andy underscores that simple numbers miss Novak’s true edge: critical moment management.
    • “Novak doesn't care about total points. He cares about getting that one break and fucking white knuckling it to the finish line.” (07:40 - Andy)

• Sinner's Achilles Heel: Long Matches

  • Roddick brings up a sticky stat: “He's never won a match over three hours and 45 minutes. 0 and 9.” (10:31)
  • Compares him to "Tyson in the third round”—dangerous early, more vulnerable as the match drags on.

2. Alcaraz vs. Zverev: High Drama and the "Camping" (Timeout) Controversy

• Second-Best Match of the Day?!

  • “It’s crazy that that might be the second best match of the day.” (11:30 - Andy)

• Brutality, Execution, and Resilience

  • Andy channels his old coach Jimmy Connors:
    • “Operation was successful. Sometimes the patient dies.” (12:18 - Andy)
  • Praises both competitors for executing their own strategies at a sky-high level, with margins decided by tiny differences.

• Alcaraz’s Cramps and the Medical Timeout Controversy ("Camping")

  • In the third set, up two sets, Alcaraz calls a medical timeout—sparking debate, as rules are intentionally vague about treating cramps.
  • Andy explains: “Rules are super murky around cramping. You're not supposed to call the trainer because it's not an injury. It's a situation... that's what Zverev's argument was about.” (14:33 - Andy)
  • Concedes that Alcaraz likely had cramps but points out that every player in that situation would use the same loophole:
    • “Every single player on earth would take what Carlos did... I could have... done the mental gymnastics to get to, yeah, my groin hurts a little.” (16:25 - Andy)
  • Defends the tour physio, who can’t reasonably refute a player’s subjective pain:
    • “Imagine how that works, right? You're the physio. Carlos goes, my groin hurts. What are you going to say, ‘Carlos, you're lying to me?’” (17:01 - Andy)

• Zverev’s Frustration—But With Respect

  • Acknowledges Zverev’s justified irritation but commends him for not letting the controversy dominate the narrative post-match:
    • “Props to him, though, in the... press, you know, he said, to be honest, I don't want to talk about this right now because I think this is one of the best battles he's [ever had] in Australia. And it doesn't deserve to be that topic now.” (19:10 - Co-host quoting Zverev)

• Psychological and Physical Taxation of Grand Slam Tennis

  • Andy drives home how grueling the mental and physical demands of big-stage tennis are:
    • “It's not a coach calling timeout...ultimately it's someone else's call. Right. You're outsourcing the minutiae... [but in] tennis, you're stamping every decision—when to punch, when to pull back, how to manage the course of five hours.” (20:55 - Andy)
  • With almost 10 hours of tennis in two matches—both going five sets—it exemplifies tennis's brutal difficulty:
    • “9 hours and 36 minutes of tennis... two matches... It's a joke.” (21:35 - Co-host & Andy)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Age and Greatness
  “If anyone asks Novak about retirement in the next six months, they should be fired.” (06:39 - Andy)

• On The Art of Match Management
  “Novak doesn't care about total points. He cares about getting that one break and fucking white knuckling it to the finish line.” (07:40 - Andy)

• On Sinner’s Long Match Record
  “He's never won a match over three hours and 45 minutes. 0 and 9. Now that's gonna stick.” (10:31 - Andy)

• On Emotional Control
  “It's like going into a hotel room of emotion, throwing your shit everywhere, but then... pick it up real quick and have it orderly again.” (08:13 - Andy, on Novak)

• On the Alcaraz Cramping Timeout
  “Rules are super murky around cramping. You're not supposed to call the trainer because it's not an injury. It's a situation.” (14:33 - Andy)
  “Every single player on earth would take what Carlos did... If they say they wouldn't have, they either haven't been in that situation or they're fucking lying to you.” (18:42 - Andy)

• On Zverev’s Classiness
  “In the post match and with the press, you know, he said, ‘to be honest, I don't want to talk about this right now because I think this is one of the best battles... doesn't deserve to be that topic now.’” (19:10 - Co-host quoting Zverev)

• On Tennis’s Difficulty “Tennis is the hardest sport in the world.” (21:25 - Andy)

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Memorable Segment Timestamps

• 00:21 – “Greatest semifinal day ever?” discussion, Novak adrenaline
• 02:16 – Discussion of Djokovic’s tactical "business decisions"
• 04:07 – Deeper dive on Novak “throwing away” games to conserve energy
• 06:39 – Andy’s quip about Novak’s retirement questions
• 07:40 – “White-knuckling” statistician debate
• 10:31 – Sinner’s 0-9 record in long matches called out
• 14:33 – Anatomy of the Alcaraz medical timeout controversy
• 16:25–18:42 – Andy’s honest player perspective on rule gaming (“every player would do it”)
• 19:10 – Zverev avoids controversy in press
• 20:55 – Andy’s philosophical wrap-up on the complexity of pro tennis

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Conclusion & Tone

Andy Roddick’s tone is fast-paced, insightful, and exuberant—equal parts fan and seasoned analyst. The episode revels in the historic nature of the matches, lauds the skill and resilience of the players, and dives unflinchingly into the sport’s gray areas and practical realities. If you missed the matches, this summary offers a play-by-play of not merely what happened, but the stakes, the sportsmanship, and the emotional magnitude—plus Andy’s unfiltered takes on what makes champions tick.

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For tennis fans, thinkers, and anyone who relishes the sport’s physical and psychological highs and lows, this episode is a masterclass in live tennis storytelling and spirited commentary.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Yes. I didn't need this heater of a giant.

[A]

No, you don't need that. You can, you could have, you could have done the decaf. What do you say? Like, don't you say, like, count out the greats at your own peril? You know, there's gonna be a lot of conversation around, can he do this? If he would have had the load of, of. Of matches coming in, if he would have had. Who cares? You know, like, what are you talking about, the Easter Bunny? Like, that's not the way it shook out. All I know is that Musetti and Mensheek have nothing to do with what we just saw in a silo for a given match. Novak managing his way through that match, and we were, we were all watching it together. So feel free to pitch in as we're watching. But, like, his ability to manage a match, invest in long rallies when he needs to, when his legs aren't there, give away the score. I mean, I thought Eubanks, Fowler and James did a great job of explaining, like, he should throw this game away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because he has to actually serve the next game and protect his legs. And you need your sir, you know, first serves versus second serves. And the pacing with which he can get through matches is. Is unbelievable. And especially at an extended age, you see him making those trade offs more often, which means his margin for victory is way smaller. Right. He has to thread the needle on first serves, bailing him out on shortening the points when it's between critical moments and I mean like 30 all in Yannick serve. He's not just going to go for a winner. He has to be have the legs to invest in those moments. I don't know that anyone's ever managed matches better than Novak. Like, even when the crowd says something and this is a skill, so this is not a criticism. This is an absolute skill. We all do it and we'll get to what we all do with, with, with the Carlos conversation with. With the timeout with Zver also. But like if he's struggling and Aang whistles, you don't get penalized for stepping off.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because it's like a crowd interaction. So Novak stepping off to get another 15 seconds of air is experience a skill. It might be the difference with making a first serve in this moment. And it's pretty. It's. It's in the rules. It's what you should do at that moment. He does it. All of those little points of maybe I'm congrats 2% here. If I go aggressive and throw away these two points, it's like the Pete thing. If throw away these two points, then I'll have my legs for the serve in the next game.

[B]

Slow down on that a little bit because you were talking about that while we were watching these last two games. The fact that Novak was about to get the serve back. You're like, listen, if he doesn't go 1515 here it's.

[A]

He.

[B]

He's like, all right, I'm just going to take cuts and explain how what you mean with that game. He's.

[A]

He's up five three in the fifth. And Sean asks I'll you tell me your own question. But like Sean asked some version of, you know, is he really going to dial into breaking here Y and he's like, 15 love. I go less likely. I go. He, you know, if it's 30 love, he's taking the first ball. I go, we're not going to see a rally go past six balls like he. That is not the most obvious way for him to win on a percentage basis at that moment is to not invest in trying to come back from love 30 down because what is there a 2% chance of that happening? And it is in saving my legs to make first serves in the last game and being able to invest in those last couple points. So to throw away it's. And actually Eubanks nailed it. And I wish I would have thought of this, this, this term for it. He talked about it after the. The fourth set I think with Malik Andrew, who is great, by the way, like for somebody who hasn't covered tennis, she was fantastic. Props. Yeah, totally. But he goes, he goes, no, no, that's not like, that's not tanking. That's not less than effort. He goes, that's a business decision. 100%. That's what it is. That's absolutely what it is. And I don't know, does he have the legs? If he plays five sets, who care? I don't know. Yeah. All I know is that we just witnessed greatness again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You beat center, who's been dominant two time defending champion. You know, he's basically you from 10 years ago with his hard court record and what he does to people and how. And it's just when the moments get big, the ability to clamp down and control the middle of the court and feed the ball in the middle and just say, you know what, you're going to have to beat me without me providing you with an angle and from below your hips under pressure, the ability for, we always say lockdown, Novak. Lockdown, Novak. That's what it is. It's like if you can beat me from the toughest place on the court to create damage to good. And I've never seen someone so comfortable in that scenario. When you're playing someone like a sinner who's quickly be like, he's going to be an all time great. Like imagine doing that 30 years old versus someone we're going to look back on and say this guy won 10 majors. You know, Borg won 11 majors, Sinner might win 20 majors. I don't know. He's going to be an all time great. He's already there. Like he's one more major than Murray. He's one, like it's, he's courier. He's. I mean, he's like, he's, he's there. Yeah, right. Like to do this at 38 years.

[B]

Old, 14 year age gap.

[A]

If anyone asks Novak about retirement in the next six months, they should be fired.

[B]

I want to, I want to ask you when I read you a stat line where it shows that sinner had 26 aces to Novak's 12. You know, his, the, his first serve in was 75. He won 80% of those versus Novak 70 and 71%. Unforced errors were equally 42. Like when you read that stat line, right? Like total points one was center 152, Novak 140.

[A]

You know, he's just, he's, it's the management thing. We were talking management Thing right now. If you tell me, you said, you said, you said sinner serves 75% for serves.

[B]

75% for serves.

[A]

Okay, so here, here's. I'm going to tell you something. I'll tell you when I think I get things right. I'm going to tell you when I, when, when I would have been absolute, absolutely wrong. We've done the thing where if you would give me one stat a day later, my hit rate on predicting matches would be very high. If you would have told me that center served 75% first serves and Novak won that match, you would own my house.

[B]

Yeah. Service points. One was 80 each.

[A]

It's a joke. I mean, that's not surprising. I mean, Sinner's gonna hit more aces than Novak. He has more pace on his first serve than Novak. But the total points is deceiving because is Sinner having to manage, you know, throwaway games like Novak? Probably not. So, like Novak doesn't care about total points. He cares about getting that one break and fucking white knuckling it to the finish line.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is what he did. I mean, it's just there's the one.

[B]

Cutaway him after he was like complaining about his ribs to his box. And then they come at the change over and he's just like laser focused.

[A]

It's just.

[B]

And you're just like, that's scary.

[A]

It's like he picks these moments where most of us just have like this massive anxiety all the time. And like it comes out as it comes out. It's almost like he picks his moments, explodes to familiar faces and then is able to like bring it back in and then internalizes. It's like going into a hotel room of emotion, throwing your shit everywhere, but then being able to pick it up real quick like, and then have it orderly again at some point. Like, I think he's the best of all time, obviously just at winning in tennis and the whole thing. But like managing matches.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I hope how that happens is kind of getting across.

[B]

But like, when was that rope a dub point? It was like, it was like late when Sinner hit that one up the line. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but it like Novak basically, Sinner hits one up the line and Novak thought it might have gone out. Not. But he kind of like almost like went like this. Like, for sure it's going out and you could see Sinner like looking. And then Novak quickly took a cross court for the winner like that. That shit is like someone who Is able to set, like, a perfect screen. It's like a Shay Gilgeous Alexander who isn't gonna be. Isn't gonna beat you with speed all the time, but the different paces of, like, Shay Gilgeous Alexander gets fouled from behind when he, like, backs into someone and then shoots. That's what this is. This is like a skill developed over these titanic battles for 20 years. And you're watching it, and it's still good enough to beat the best players on earth sometimes. I don't know if I thought he could beat these guys in three out of five. Novak didn't either. He said it after the US Open last year. Now can he beat him back to back? That's another whole thing. I don't even want to preview this. This the men's final today, and I'm not going to. Yeah. Because it's. It. It. It would be too quick to move on from what we just saw. Like, this has to settle in. This has to marinate. Sinner is. Is. Is fantastic. Fantastic. I think no differently of him. The stat that is going to be said over and over again. Like, we get the, you know, the. The pula hasn't made it past the quarters, the this and that. And then is.

[B]

He's.

[A]

He's never won a match over three hours and 40.

[B]

Yeah. Was it 45 minutes?

[A]

Five minutes.

[B]

Oh, and nine.

[A]

Oh, nine. Now that's gonna stick. Like, if there's anything that the locker room has any hope for with center heat and length, really hard to get to four hours with him because he will knock your head off. Right. If you can, it changes a little bit. It's like, you know, Tyson in the 10th round versus Tyson in the third round. He's walking in there to knock.

[B]

I was about to ask you, who would you compare that.

[A]

He's not. He's walking in there to knock your head off.

[B]

Yeah. And he normally does.

[A]

Whereas, like, Holyfield wants to extend, you know, and get longer and. I don't know, man. Like, it's just. What's that lame country song? Like, I was. I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good. As good once as I ever was.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 18 years since he won his first Grand Slam title in 08 Melbourne.

[A]

Joe Willie. Sangha. That was. That was. That was prime Sangha. Thank you, Zverev. Carlos.

[B]

I mean.

[A]

I mean, the. It's like, it's crazy that that might be the second best match of the day. I don't know. I mean, here here's So I, I've said this before on, on the air and it's one of my favorite quotes ever. And it's from my old coach and all time great Jimmy Connors. Sometimes when you play a point the right way and someone comes up with something that's just better, but you executed it the way you wanted to. Sometimes you come off and you play a match where you executed the way you wanted to. He had this thing where he'd go, fucking A operation was successful. Sometimes the patient dies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's kind of what it was for, for, for Alex today. Carlos, he's so good. It's just the speed. And you saw him kind of learn that Novak playbook where he's pacing the injury. He could, he wouldn't admit to cramps, but it looked, I mean, it looked like cramps. I would bet you a dollar that it was cramps. You. He's not going to admit to it because that brings in a whole. He says it's cramps and then all of a sudden he has to answer 12 more questions in the press conference about the medical timeout. So why would he even do that? No, like at this point, it's like load management, time management. You know, I don't. You guys can write what you want. I don't care. My. I need to get ready for the, for the final. Just straight out of the gates. It's just, it's so much fun for me to see the game and the level and the movement and the athleticism and the drama and the next generation stepping up pretty much every tournament. Right. And the storylines of like Cans Verev, like, he's not going to be these all time greats. Can he, can he, can he get one? Can he get one? And Carlos going, I have the career slam. I want to be the youngest to get the career slam. And then you have Yannick going against the shadows of greatness. And then you have Novak going, can I get one more? Can I just get to 25? And so now we look forward and we see Carlos going for the all time record for youngest to ever complete all four Grand Slam wins against the best of all time. Who's going for 25 on the same day? Like, it's just, if you don't like tennis, we're not friends. I don't like you.

[B]

Can we dig a little bit more deep into the context of this, of Carlos is. So they're in the third set.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He calls for a medical timeout.

[A]

Carlos up two sets at this point.

[B]

Yeah. And he and Zverev should have won that second set. You know, he was serving for it, should have won it. Carlos calls for the medical timeout. And at this point, right, It. It looks like he's cramping, he's taking on water. But at the end of the day, it's up to the physio if this timeout is to happen. Right. Can we explain the context of this in the rules?

[A]

So here's what happens. So the rules are, like, super murky around cramping. You're not supposed to call the trainer because it's not an injury. It's a. It's a situation. Right? Like, you could. Your toes could cramp right now, and tomorrow you're not injured. Yeah, right. You pull your groin and tomorrow you're injured. Right. So that's the fine line. That's what Zverev's argument was about, was like, this is an injury timeout. He's getting his legs rubbed on, which helps cramps under the guise of, like, my groin hurts. And two things can be true. So I. We don't know. Carlos was giving. Now he's like an ad. He basically is an adductor. I don't know how bad it is. Adductors don't really get, like, cramps. They can. They go in waves. They can come. Like, when you're managing cramps, you're like, okay, let me just try to do everything in my power, not move in certain directions that are bothering me. Wait till electrolytes kick in. Wait till anything kicks in in 15 minutes. So you're. You're basically biting your time, but cramps can come and go now they're going to come for you at a certain point. Like, it's not as if you cramp an hour in and all of a sudden, like, you know, you're going to feel rosy, but full lockdown, where, like, you can't move versus a little bit of relief, and you're just incredibly fatigued. One is operational, like you can operate, one you can't. Okay? So I would bet a dollar that he had cramps. And for everyone saying that's like, there's two things that people are going to say that I fully disagree with. Right. Every single player on earth would take what Carlos did because, like, if I have a cramp, I don't know, I could have. I 100 would have been able to do the mental gymnastics to get to, yeah, my groin hurts a little. I can.

[B]

Yeah, he, like, grabbed his right groin.

[A]

And he's like, you know, it's Put it on. It's a. If. If. If the decision is not my own and it's written in the rules as the job, which is also fucked up. But like, if you can punt responsibility to a third party and it's within the rules for them to make a judgment. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. What. What is the physio going to do? He's going to go stand on the side. He's gonna be like, no, I'm good.

[A]

No.

[B]

He's gonna walk over and check on a person.

[A]

But also like, let's. Let's. People are gonna be like, the physio needs to say, you know what? Alex was right. The physio. Okay. Imagine how that works, right? You're the physio.

[B]

I mean, that's unfair.

[A]

You. You're the. It's. It's a. It's a no win situation. There's no chance for the physio to win. They work for the tours. You're not getting your personal physio out there. It's not as if this person works for Carlos. This works. This person works for everyone equally in the entire tournament, right? That physio comes out. Carlos goes, my groin hurts. What are you going to say, Carlos? You're lying to me. I am not gonna treat you exactly. Zero for those on Spotify. I'm holding two zeros in front of my eyeballs. Like, there's no impossible. You cannot make a judgment call that calls Carlos. You could suspect it, but if you don't, I suspect it. If you don't know for sure, you cannot make that judgment. Impossible. Zverev, I think he was absolutely right. But the other thing, an overreaction by Zverev there also sets the precedent for. We're not doing this. Just as you're thinking through it, one to Carlos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Carlos is not.

[B]

He's.

[A]

Everyone loves Carlos. Carlos loves everyone. Is the most personable champion maybe we've ever had. Vera wasn't trying to keep the volume down.

[B]

No, no. I mean he's.

[A]

You're hear me full max. Shit. We're coming in. Maybe you're a little self conscious about doing it again. I don't know. That's not an accident, right? And then. But to his credit, he got on with it. Came back from two sets down. Like. Played his ass off. Fought his ass off completely. There's no. No one was wrong.

[B]

No.

[A]

I would have done exactly what Carlos did. So judge me too. And every other player would have done it. And if they say. If they say they wouldn't have. They either haven't been in that situation or they're fucking lying to you. Those are the two options.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if I'm Zverev, I'm pissed, too.

[B]

Props to him, though, In. In the. In the post match. Not on the court, obviously, but in the post match and with the press, you know, he said, to be honest, I don't want to talk about this right now because I think this is one of the best battles he's right. Ever was in Australia.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And it doesn't deserve to be that topic now.

[A]

It's. He didn't want to turn it into something tabloidal when that was a. It wasn't the entire match. It wasn't the entire match. It was a huge factor in it. They're both right. You give me a dollar. I could defend either one convincingly, I think. You know, and I just feel bad. Like, Zverev has admittedly. And the US Open final comes to mind, has choked matches when serving for it before. I don't know that that was the case. I think his legs were cooked. We talked about with Novak, when your legs are cooked, it's hard to serve as well. It just is. And Zverev, more than any of the other three players in the semifinals, needs his serve to equalize the matchup. It goes. It affects him more than the other three. It went. It affected him more than the other three. Props to Carlos. Like, this guy's a magician. Like Roland Garros getting out of that, serving for matches, like, doing it today. The ability for him to just not have a conscience and step up and hit shots is like, I never had it. That's why I'm not them. I mean, Holger mentioned that about both Sinner and Carlos. Like, there's no. There's no doubt in their minds when they go for those shots, they just go for it. I'll tell you this, like, we'll. We'll close it here because I don't want this to be a, you know, feel like we have to. We have two matches to talk about. I'm not previewing anything. Like, these need to settle. We need to understand the physicality, the mental isolation, the strategy that goes in. It's not a coach calling timeout where you. You don't have to actually think about those things. Like, you can check. Sure, you have to pay attention to things as a player and talk back and forth, but ultimately it's someone else's call. Right. You're outsourcing the minutiae of minutes, and someone else is telling you to sit and they're managing your minutes and your clock and there's a conversation, but you're not stamping it tennis. You're stamping every decision when to punch, when to pull back, how to manage the course of, of five hours. And oh, by the way, you got to play the points too. It's, it's a joke. I'm. Tennis is the hardest sport in the world.

[B]

9 hours and 36 minutes of me. 9 hours and 36 minutes of tennis.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

Two matches.

[A]

It's a joke. You remember yesterday when I said I didn't think there was going to be a five setter? Yeah.

[B]

Hey, yeah. How'd that work out?

[A]

I was right. There were two. Thank you for watching Quick serve brought to you by ServiceNow. Watch these matches, support these players. I every, every day I leave after something like this. I love tennis more than I ever thought I could. Amazing.