Hockey loyalties collide, but that’s just the warm-up. This conversation moves from playoff passion to something far more personal—why making friends as an adult feels unexpectedly hard.

Jimmy Zubris and Lesley Kelly bring sharp perspective and lived experience, balancing rivalry with real talk. From the energy of Montreal during a Canadiens run to the surprising role social media plays in building meaningful connections, the discussion surfaces what actually works when friendships don’t come easily. Politics enters the mix too, raising questions about disagreement, respect, and where lines should—or shouldn’t—be drawn.

New Leader, Same Party? The Question Canadians Aren’t Asking
A new face, a new tone—but is anything really different? That’s the tension driving this conversation.

Lesley Kelly and Jimmy Zubris unpack the shift in messaging from the Liberal government, moving from values-driven language to a more pragmatic, business-first approach. But beneath that shift sits a bigger question: can a party truly reinvent itself without accountability for the past? The discussion challenges whether Canadians are too quick to move on, and what it means for trust, memory, and political identity.

There’s also a sharp look at economic uncertainty, global trade, and the risks of distancing from the U.S. too quickly. Real-world impact—especially from a farming and business perspective—grounds the conversation in what’s actually at stake.

A clear-eyed breakdown of leadership, messaging, and the gap between promises and proof.

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Jimmy Zubris
Lesley Kelly

Originally aired on 2026-04-20