C (3:32)

I love that.

A (3:32)

I love what you said about get our hopes up. Like I think we do so much self preservation of not wanting too much, not expecting too much, being ready for the other shoe to drop. And I think that I would so much rather feel the pain of disappointment that maybe I got my hopes up and something didn't work out in the exact moment that I wanted it to or the, you know, in the way that I thought it should. I would so much rather feel that than to feel like things aren't possible. That to me feels so much more painful than maybe being a little bit disappointed that something didn't work out how I thought it would in that moment.

B (4:08)

I always say that it's just kind of our ego that gets disappointed thinking that there's only one way for it to happen, or only, you know, thinking that we knew the best way that it could happen. But ultimately, when you're letting yourself get your hopes up and you're letting yourself dream big, you're still moving your vibration in a good direction and it's like you're gonna still be, you know, propelled in a forward motion towards your dreams if you do let yourself get your hopes up and just kind of realize if for some reason you don't get what you. Something even better is gonna come. Or just understanding that rejection is redirection and understanding that everything's happening for you.

A (4:42)

Yeah, exactly. When I think about the times that I've consciously manifested, my example, actually, I think is really similar to yours. I'm from Seattle. I lived in Seattle the first 30 years of my life. My whole 20s, I had wanted to move to LA. It was like my North Star. I visited LA when I was nine years old. I went home, I told my parents, I'm gonna move there when I grow up. And I just never really let it go. But every year when it came time to renew my leases and things in Seattle, I just kept doing it. I just kept staying largely out of fear and New year's. Going into 2019, I was like, okay, this is the last year of my 20s. I am moving to LA. If I don't do it now, I'm never going to do it. So this is the year. And I didn't fully know how it was going to come together, but I just, I was so set, like, okay, my lease is up in August, I am not renewing it, and I'm going to be moving to la. Didn't really know how that was going to happen, but I was doing things throughout the year to prepare. I had a friend who is a professional organizer, and so every month she would come and she would help me purge and get rid of stuff and organize so that I would be ready to move. And so we did this for months.

C (5:47)

I want to say it was maybe like the end of June of 2019.

A (5:51)

So I had almost two months left on my current lease. And it was about to be time for me to tell my landlord in Seattle what I was doing or not. And I was talking on the phone to another friend of mine about wanting to go to LA and, like, not being fully sure where I was going to live. And she said, oh, well, have you talked to our other friend? She just posted an Instagram story saying she's looking for a roommate. And I was like, no, let me call her right now. And so I hit her up and I was like, girl, you looking for a roommate because I'm trying to move. And she was like, absolutely, it's yours. Like, you can just move in whenever. Also, around that time, I was like, I was fun employed because I'D had a really terrible job earlier that year that I had quit because it was super toxic. And I was like, okay, what does this mean? Am I going to have to job hunt when I'm in la? What is that going to look like? Around the same time, I had another friend who worked in tech remotely and I had a Facebook group for the podcast at the time. And she was like, hey, my team is hiring for a writer position. Can I post this in your Facebook group? I was like, girl, post it to me because I will apply for that job. I ended up applying for this job for this writer position at a tech company that I basically was too senior for. And so instead of rejecting me, they actually created a job suited for my level that was fully remote. That started a few weeks before I was set to move to la. So I basically had this remote job fall into my lap where I could afford living in la. And then I had a room at an apartment with a friend of mine, rent control, that was just like ready for me to move into it. So I didn't have to look for a job, I didn't have to look for an apartment. It just like worked out.

B (7:24)

Yeah, I think that's a perfect example of a kind of being in alignment and, you know, going for your goals and everything starts to like work out in a very beautiful, synchronicitous type of way. And yeah, that's so cool. You were, you were destined to, to move to la.

A (7:38)

I was, I love it at that time.

B (7:40)

Yeah.

A (7:41)

So I would love to talk more about how you learned more about manifestation, that turning point that you described in 2020 where you realized, okay, I maybe do have a little bit more agency to create my own reality. Were there any resources that taught you that? Like, how did you tap into this space?

B (7:58)

So I am just naturally very curious about this stuff. I. Yeah, okay, that's a good. Ultimately, I just started reading so many books. I started going on YouTube, academy, YouTube, university, binging. So many videos about manifesting, about law of attraction, law of assumption. So I kind of self taught myself in a lot of ways and ultimately kind of started to research the science behind things as well. Because I do like to understand how things work. Right. Because it was all these things that I was putting on my vision board started coming true and I was like, how is this happening? I was like, okay, I understand, you know, or I can conceptualize that these woo woo things are happening of like, okay, what I'm visualizing is coming true, putting it on the vision board. But what's actually happening. And so that kind of led me into learning a little bit more about, like, quantum physics and, and neuroscience and how our brain works. And I like understanding that side of things too. And yeah, if you have some very nerdy listeners, maybe you guys would be interested in this of, of learning more about the quantum physics side of things, of realizing that our consciousness actually is affecting things outside of us. And a very heady topic and, and theory that's becoming more popularized now is, is that there's infinite versions of reality. And so it's like we really do have so much power in tuning our frequency, tuning our vibration to different versions of reality based on, you know, what we're thinking, based on our beliefs, feelings, and our nervous system state. So that was kind of the next part of what I started researching was our nervous system and how much our body and our nervous system really does affect, you know, what we're calling into our life and what we even feel safe drawing into our life. So I guess to answer your question, that was a lot of, you know, going all around, but I kind of self taught myself by reading tons of books, tons of podcasts, tons of, you know, YouTube videos, and going down this rabbit hole of manifestation and kind of testing it out myself and realizing, but this absolutely does work. Learning a little bit more about the science of it. And you know, it's like that saying that's like, hey, Christians call it, you know, prayer, or atheists call it the universe or whatever it is. It's like there's so many different ways to explain what's happening, but no one denies that it's happening. No one denies that manifesting is real. And I think I love talking about how if you don't believe in manifesting, it's just like, you might as well just try it out. Because I didn't believe in it either until I just started testing it out and realized that I really could manifest so many things. And people pretty quickly can kind of understand that it does work. If you just let yourself start to expect good things, if you start to make a vision board, if you start to, like, let yourself get your hopes up, so many things will start coming true. You won't doubt it for very long.

A (10:55)

Okay, I love that you talked about the nerdy science pieces of it because that's something that I'm really curious about.

B (11:02)

Yeah.

A (11:02)

That I haven't dedicated the time to like, really learning about and truly understanding, but I'm just so curious about how like the quantum physics side relates to the manifestation side. I think the neuroscience side, that part. I'm like, okay, yes, that makes sense to me. Where we're rewiring our brains to be able to. To see more of what's possible.

C (11:23)

I'm like, okay, cool.

A (11:24)

This idea of infinite realities and tapping into the realities where, you know, we're either on a better timeline or we are getting more of the things that we want is something that I'm like, whoa, that is so interesting. And, like, my brain can't fully comprehend it, even though I've probably done it in some sense.

B (11:41)

Totally.

A (11:41)

Is there a way that you would explain that? Like, kind of quantum physics and manifestation 101. I was going to say for dummies, but we're not.

C (11:49)

We're lucky. Girls are smart.

A (11:51)

But 101 to make it really easy for us to understand.

B (11:55)

Yeah, I mean, if you want kind of like an analogy to think about it, this is how my brain thinks about it. Of like, we always talk about. It's like a crepe cake. You know, crepes are very like these tiny, thin little layers stacked upon each other. Right? It's like something. A visual to look at and, you know, but it's like a crepe cake going up for, you know, millions of inches long or whatever it is. And so there's these realities kind of stacked upon each other, and we're always shifting between different versions of reality based on. Again, based on our frequency. And our frequency is basically determined by what thoughts we're thinking, you know, our feelings. Dr. Joe Dispenza talks about how our feelings and our heart produce this electromagnetic field. And, you know, it's like our thoughts are tuning us and our feelings are tuning us to these different versions of reality based on whatever we are feeling, whatever we're thinking. And if you can kind of understand the neuroscience part of things, we can tie it to that. Because our reticular activating system, right. Is filtering out 99.999% of reality. And we are in taking 11 million bits of information per second. Have you heard that before?

C (13:07)

Wild.

B (13:07)

It's wild, right? And so our reticular activating system is filtering out 99.99% of that. And so, you know, that is a huge determinant of what version of reality we're tuned to. Right? Our subconscious beliefs is a huge thing too, because we're having 60,000 thoughts per second, and 95% of those are subconscious. So it's like we really have to change our subconscious mind and our subconscious beliefs if we're wanting to change. You Know what thoughts we're going to be thinking and tuning to. It's a good way to think about, you know, the analogy. If it's hard for your mind to conceptualize it, think about it like a crepe cake. So it's like these infinite versions of reality, we're always tuning, we're always shifting between versions of reality. And like you said, you think you've done it. It's like, like we all are. Like literally we all are. We're all manifesting whether we think we are or not, based on our thoughts, based on our assumptions. And that kind of ties a little bit into, you know, the law of assumption and being like, hey, whatever you are assuming is going to happen, that's what version you are tuning to. That's what version you are going to see. If you are assuming that you're a lucky person. It was proven. I don't know if you heard that study when people were claiming that they're lucky. Looking at this newspaper, if you claim that you were lucky, you're going to start seeing more opportunities in your life versus if you're claiming that you're unlucky. If you're always in this like victim mentality, thinking that everything's happening to you and not for you. Your brain literally will show you different things in your reality, which is crazy.

A (14:33)

It reminds me of. I was recently doing some research for another episode that I'm recording soon and I was watching an interview that one of my upcoming guests was doing and she referenced this study and I'm gonna try and summarize it as well as she did. It was like a makeup study basically where they had a group of people, they took their mirrors away and they weren't able to like actually see themselves. And on the first day of the study, they pretended to apply makeup to these people. So these people thought that they were getting like a full beat and then had to go out in the world, go about their day and make note of how people treated them. Then the second day, they were not told that they were given makeup, no pretend makeup, and they just like went out into the world knowing that they were barefaced. And these people truly said that the first day when they thought they were wearing makeup, that they were being treated better, that people were nicer, that people were paying more attention to them, all of these things, even though both days they were actually bare faced and had nothing on. But it was because of that assumption that they felt like, oh, I made up, I feel better, I present better. So now I'm being treated better. Which actually it wasn't true. It was just the assumption that they felt like they should be treated better.

B (15:42)

It's what our brain's looking for, right? Like, our brain is always looking to confirm our own beliefs and confirm what we are looking for. If you are assuming that people are going to treat you better, your brain quite literally will show you little instances or make assumptions of like, if that person made a little, like, look at you or whatever. If you are thinking, people don't like me, people think I'm ugly, you're going to take that little gesture of thinking that they don't like you. But if you're thinking that everyone's thinking you're beautiful or going to treat you amazing, they'll take that little gesture. Your brain will take that little gesture and be like, oh, that person, like thinks I'm beautiful. Like that person was smiling at me or whatever. It is so crazy how much power we have inside of our own mind to interpret and change our perspective of what we see in our life. You only see what you're looking for.

C (16:34)

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A (20:50)

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A (22:54)

Can we talk a little bit more about the subconscious mind? Because I know you had referenced it when we were talking a little bit more about the quantum physics side of things. For people who may not be familiar with their subconscious mind. What does that mean?

B (23:09)

Yeah, I mean, your subconscious mind, you can think about it like an iceberg. Maybe you've heard that analogy before where we know that an iceberg. You only see, you know, the 10% of an iceberg on the top. That's kind of like our conscious mind. And our subconscious mind is the 90. The 95% underneath, which is really controlling, again, most of our thoughts, most of our beliefs, a lot of our emotions, a lot of these things that are subconsciously running our life and running our mind when you're not even aware of it, if that makes sense. There's a lot of tools like. Like things like shadow work where you can really get to the root cause of why you're thinking these things. Shadow work is such a powerful tool to really, really help you understand why you've been thinking these things or, you know, maybe why you have trauma or these different beliefs around things in your life. And it takes. If you. If you want to talk about changing our subconscious mind, there's some tools that we teach. You know, I'm a coach and I. I teach my clients of how to rewire their mind. So there's a couple tools of, like, when you. As soon as you wake up, your subconscious mind is very suggestible, very malleable. You're still having those theta brainwave states right after you wake up. And so that's a really good time to change your subconscious mind. So I always, for me and I. For my clients, I always tell them to listen to, like, affirmation tracks or listen to something positive because you're really helping to change your subconscious mind during those times before your conscious mind kind of like takes over. And it's harder to get to your subconscious mind. And. And repetition is really important for changing your subconscious mind. Because, again, if you've been thinking these thoughts that you're not good enough or that you're ugly or whatever it is, like, money's hard to make. If you've been thinking those thoughts for years and years and years. It's going to take a little bit of time and repetition to create these new thoughts and create these new neural pathways inside of your mind. But thankfully, because of neuroplasticity, it shows that we actually can change our mind with those repetition, with creating these new neural pathways inside of our mind. So to Answer your question. It's kind of like that iceberg where it's these, these thoughts and these beliefs that we've been thinking for so, so, so long that maybe are controlling your mind without you even realizing it. Because again, we're only conscious of 5% of the thoughts that we think in the day. Does that kind of help?

A (25:27)

It does. Which is so interesting to think about. It's like those thoughts that we can't even hear that we don't even realize we're thinking that are actually running the show.

B (25:35)

Right, right.

A (25:36)

So you could think, oh, but I'm.

C (25:38)

Doing all of these right things.

A (25:39)

And I do, you know, the 5% that I'm aware of, I'm trying to affirm or do these things. But if you don't get to the root of what's actually happening beneath the surface, that 5% obviously can't overpower the 95%.

B (25:53)

And a lot of times we're not even aware, like, we're not even aware of the thoughts we're thinking. Or sometimes people feel like there's just all this noise going on in their mind without them taking the time to. To understand what's going on. We have a formula that we teach in, in my business, which is the 3R formula, which is recognize, rewire, and regulate. So the first R is recognize, which is recognize what you're even thinking. Meditation is really helpful with that of just taking time to sit with your thoughts. Right. Take time to observe what's even happening and observe what thoughts you're thinking. Because if you never take the time to observe what thoughts you're thinking, it's going to be harder to. To create the life that you want and create these new beliefs and create these new thoughts because they're just running on autopilot without you even realizing what's going on.

C (26:37)

Yeah, like you don't even know they're there.

B (26:39)

Exactly. Yeah.

A (26:41)

Can we talk more of the things that people can do to kind of rewire these thoughts? So you mentioned things like affirming repetition. What are some other things that you recommend?

B (26:51)

Yes. I'm a huge fan of EFT tapping. I'm a huge fan of listening to something like subliminals or sleep tracks when you're sleeping, because your subconscious mind is still listening, still intaking information even when you're sleeping. So that's like a cheat code for rewiring your mind because it's like seven, eight hours of constant creating these new beliefs and listening to these affirmations. Some of my other favorite things are things like changing your identity and changing your internal dialogue. Right? Because whatever you're saying to yourself, I have this quote which is people echo back to you what you whisper within yourself. So if you're whispering within yourself and thinking all the time internally that you're not good enough or, or, you know, it's that you can't have your dream job or that all men suck or whatever it is, if you're saying that internally, of course that's gonna be deepening those beliefs in your subconscious. So changing your internal dialogue and changing the identities that you put on yourself and the labels you put on yourself. A lot of people, you know, maybe consider themselves and identify as like an overthinker or as an anxious person, or, you know, just think that bad things always happen to them. But if you really start to change the labels that you put on yourself, your subconscious mind and your brain trying to confirm what you believe, if you're changing your beliefs, if you're changing your identity, you are going to start behaving differently. So those are some of the things that I like to do.

A (28:15)

Wait, let's talk more about some of those, because I know I've been talking a lot about EFT tapping on. On the Interwebs, and I know it's something that you're a big proponent of as well. I was first introduced to EFT tapping back in 2019 when I had made all those changes and like, moved to la. Because I was working with a life coach at the time, and she also works very heavily in manifestation, and she would make custom EFT scripts for me for things that we were working on. And so that was my first exposure to it. And so I'd done it years ago, manifested those great things, moved to la, all this stuff, and then promptly forgot about it and didn't do it again until recently. I got back into it. But I would love to talk more about what that actual practice is and why it's so helpful for people.

B (29:00)

Yeah, I am obsessed with the efty tapping. I describe it of. It's basically so it was created from someone who was getting rid of a fear of a phobia of water. So what is really helpful with EFT tapping, how I describe it, it's kind of like it's releasing and reducing this resistance and this fear that you have around certain issues or certain topics. Like a fear, for example, if you have a fear of speaking or fear of whatever it is, eft tapping really helps to reduce that emotional charge. And what's happening in the brain actually is it's calming the activity in your amygdala. And our amygdala is the source of our fight or flight. So it's a source of, like, this anxious thoughts, these overthinking thoughts of feeling, you know, tense and all this stuff in this survival mode. So eft. Tapping. Typically when you're tapping, you start with the negatives. You start with like, okay, even though I'm feeling some anxiety right now, even though I'm feeling a little bit scared, even though I'm having fear of being seen, for example, it's really helping to reduce that emotional charge. So then that fear and. And those anxious feelings kind of go away. And then you start to reaffirm the positive towards the end where it's like, okay, no, I actually, it is safe to be seen. People respect me and value my presence and respect what I'm saying and things like that. So, yeah, we actually had Brad Yates on my podcast who's kind of like the tap daddy of tapping. And he is so amazing. And he talks about how tapping, sometimes it can be like you're taking a pain medicine. Right. So it's like you're tapping in, like, these feelings instantly kind of go away and you make this huge difference. But sometimes it's more like a vitamin where it's like, you know, it's working kind of more slowly and on the inside as you're going through these sequences. And another person, we also had someone named Haley Hoffman Smith, who's a huge tapping person, and she kind of described it of like, we are all the sun, as in the sun in the sky. Like, we're all this light born, and we know that we're worthy and we know that we're perfect. But then we grow up and we take on these limiting beliefs. We take on these feelings of not being good enough. And tapping kind of helps to clear the clouds.

C (31:06)

Right.

B (31:06)

So you're clearing those beliefs away, clearing the clouds away. So then you can come back to your natural state of shining, of being in your power and knowing that you're so amazing and knowing that you can do anything. I'm a huge, huge fan of tapping. And it seems weird. Weird because you're just like tapping on your face, tapping on these. You're tapping on these meridian points in your body. And it seems weird, but anyone who tries it typically will quickly realize how powerful it is and then you'll be addicted to it.

A (31:32)

Yeah. And it's just so accessible and easy to do. I don't know if you had this happen, but oftentimes when I'm tapping, I.

C (31:40)

Will yawn a lot.

B (31:41)

Yes.

A (31:41)

Is that a thing?

B (31:42)

Yes.

C (31:42)

Why does that happen?

B (31:43)

Well, it's actually so when you're yawning, it means that your nervous system is, like, calming down. Your nervous system's getting more regulated. Or like, some people will feel, like, buzzing feelings inside their body. Or some people cry, you know, if they're really releasing a lot of resistance. I definitely cried during tapping. Totally. Totally. So there's a lot of different physical reactions that can happen. Again, if you're not having physical reactions, it's still working. But there are a lot of physical reactions that can happen.

C (32:09)

Yeah, yeah.

A (32:10)

Which is, like, so interesting.

B (32:12)

It's so cool.

A (32:13)

Let's also get back to subliminals as well, which was something that you mentioned. It's also something that I love.

B (32:19)

Yeah.

A (32:19)

Can we talk about more specifically what a subliminal is?

B (32:23)

I wouldn't say I'm like, an expert, but, you know, my understanding of what I know subliminals are is essentially it's typically like affirmation tracks. Right. It's like affirmations or positive words, positive phrases that are really, really, really quiet, laid over some music or some type of, like, rain sounds or nature sounds or something like that. Frequencies. The affirmations are so quiet, but your subconscious mind can still pick it up. So our subconscious mind is so smart and so complex that it's picking up information. It's taking in information even when your conscious mind can't hear it, even when it's underlaid or overlaid other noises, it's still picking it up. It's still listening. And so that's essentially what a subliminal is. It's these affirmation tracks that are really, really, really quiet, but your subconscious mind is still listening and still intaking those new affirmations. Listening new phrases. Okay. Does that make sense?

A (33:12)

Yeah.

B (33:12)

Okay.

A (33:12)

Yeah, it does. Are there any places you like to go for subliminals that you'd recommend with subliminals?

B (33:20)

Not to Fear Monger or anything, but it is important to, like, find it from a trustworthy source because, again, you can't really hear what's being said. I have used someone named High frequency guru on YouTube before. I actually started creating my own subliminals for myself and for my clients. So obviously that's what I recommend. I've used High Frequency Guru before for. But you can also create your own.

A (33:41)

Yeah.

B (33:41)

If you want to. If you really want to take control of what's being said and you can customize it to, you know, whatever you're working towards, whatever beliefs you're trying to rewire into your mind or you could even like use your name or, and, and actually if you do create your own subliminals with your voice, it does go into your subconscious mind like a little bit deeper and a little bit quicker. If you're using your voice, that makes.

A (34:03)

Sense because it's yourself. Yeah, it's, it's probably more, you don't have to do as much convincing of your subconscious.

B (34:09)

Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

A (34:11)

And for people who may be, I don't know if reluctant is the right word, but who may feel like, well, I tried to manifest and it, and it didn't work, or I'm running into these blocks or my reality isn't changing.

B (34:23)

Yes.

A (34:24)

What do you recommend or what do you say to people in that instance?

B (34:27)

Yeah, that's a good question. Because I think there's kind of like two parties, right? There's someone who maybe doesn't believe in manifesting and hasn't like intentionally tried to manifest. And to that that person I say just try it, right? Just start making a vision board. Just start dreaming big. Just start letting yourself expect good things and you can quickly, usually quickly you'll kind of realize that the stuff works. Maybe you'll start manifesting smaller things. One of the first things I intentionally manifested like tested out was like if I can manifest like a free cup of coffee or, or even seeing things, right. Like I want to manifest. I was like, hey universe, show me a sign of like a bratz doll if I can manifest. And it's like I ended up seeing that. I was like, okay, cool. It's like you can start asking for signs and things and, and testing your power will call it. So that's like one camp of people, but then the other camp who maybe have tried manifesting, they're getting angry because it's not working for those people. There's a couple things that I recommend which again I've already mentioned this, but shadow work, really looking and doing some shadow work because you might have some subconscious beliefs that are going against what you're trying to manifest. So if you are trying to manifest money, but if you have a subconscious belief that rich people are evil or you're gonna have to work really, really hard, hard and success isn't safe, then your mind and your body is just going to keep you safe, right? Like our mind and our body is always trying to keep us safe. So it's gonna, it might self sabotage or it might not even show you situations in your life or opportunities that could make you money, for example. Right. So it's like figuring out, going back to that formula, doing the first R is recognized. So start recognizing what your subconscious beliefs are. Start doing some shadow work, start maybe meditating and understand what's even going on first. And then the second part, part of why a lot of people don't end up manifesting is our nervous system. I already mentioned that. But our nervous system, if it doesn't feel safe calling in money, for example, it could also self sabotage. It could, you know, again, not show you opportunities or self sabotage opportunities or, or make you, you know, say no to opportunities that could make you more money or meet new people or meet the love of your life or something like that. So checking your subconscious beliefs and then regulating nervous system is a huge part of, of why people can't manifest, if that makes sense.

C (36:37)

Yeah, yeah, that definitely makes sense.

A (36:40)

And in terms of shadow work, I feel like that is a really common term that you will hear a lot if you're either in the manifestation space, if you're in the wellness space, if you're in kind of the self help space. I think shadow work is something that can look a lot of different ways just because everyone's shadows are kind of different. Have you found with yourself and your clients that there are are methods for shadow work that are more helpful than.

C (37:04)

Others at really getting to the root?

B (37:06)

This is what I typically recommend. This is what I first started with shadow work, which is usually like journal prompts. It's these journal prompts that are kind of written in a way that are shockingly helpful for discovering like the root cause of why you believe certain things. Maybe it's written in a way where it's like, okay, when did you first feel this feeling of rejection or resentment or whatever it is? And then you have to kind of go back and go back in your memory and feel, feel, like, realize like, oh, when I was in second grade, this person like told me I was ugly or told me I wasn't good enough or whatever. And I internalize that. I think it's so powerful to actually journal it out because you're kind of taking these memories, these suppressed memories, your shadow, which is like the parts of yourself that you have kind of been avoiding that you didn't want to talk about. You're like, I'm just gonna like dig this a little bit deeper into my mind. But you're taking those parts of yourself, parts of your memories, parts of thoughts onto paper. And then typically when it's on the paper. You're looking at it and being like, oh, like, I. This doesn't actually need have that much power over me or have that much influence over me. And so that's typically what I recommend, especially for people when they're beginning, because it's helpful to kind of put, you know, pen to paper, get these thoughts onto paper. And so it kind of helps to bring it up, take it out of your mind, and then you can actually move forward. A lot of times I'll cry when I'm doing shadow work because I think a lot of times you kind of realize, like, oh, you were the one. I was like, oh, I. I've been the one that's like, holding myself back. Oh, I've been holding onto these beliefs or holding onto this perspective or holding onto this anger or shame when I didn't need to. This has been holding me back for so long. And that's typically what I recommend. There's a lot of different ways, like whether it's with therapy or, you know, in meditation, kind of coming to these understandings of yourself on your own.

A (38:51)

Yeah, I feel like journaling is such a great tool for just helping us express ourselves. I had a moment maybe about a week ago now, which now, looking back on it, I recognize was probably a.

C (39:02)

Bit of shadow work.

A (39:03)

I was just, like, cleaning up around the house. I was doing absolutely nothing. But I think because I just let my mind relax, I was kind of hit with these realizations where in a previous relationship that I'd had all of the ways that I did not maintain my own boundaries and how that ended up being kind of detrimental to what happened. And so I stopped what I was doing. I went to my journal. I wrote about all of these instances when I had not, like, stuck to my boundaries or really spoken up about what was important to me. And then I ended up forgiving myself for all of those things and, like, really taking that lesson and releasing it. And it was such an unexpected but really helpful exercise. It was almost kind of like a bit of a breakthrough.

B (39:43)

Totally.

A (39:44)

Just on, like, a random day in my apartment where it just. It was like a breakthrough. And I think having those little moments where we do let ourselves feel things and express it and also release those things can be so helpful.

B (39:56)

Yeah, totally. And I love how you were journaling about it too, rather than just, I think, you know, thinking about it and pondering on it is so powerful too. But when you're actually journaling, I think it helps you to put these kind of scrambled up thoughts and, and feelings onto paper and you can actually look at it and you're like, oh, wow, I can't believe I've been thinking that. Or it seemed, it had seemed so chaotic or cluttered inside of your mind. And then you're putting it onto paper and you're like, oh, I can actually forgive myself. I can release this. I can let of this, which is.

A (40:25)

So powerful, at least for me. It's easier to articulate myself when I'm writing something out than it is when I'm either saying it out loud or there's just something that feels a little bit safer. And it's a little bit easier maybe because also when you're writing things down, you have to kind of slow down a little bit and I can't write as fast as I can speak. And so it makes me more thoughtful with my words. But there is something about writing things down that helps me articulate.

B (40:50)

I think it activates different parts of your brain too. So yeah, that's so true.

C (40:55)

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A (45:44)

I would also love to get your thoughts on kind of manifestation methods because I feel like at least the sides. I mean my for you page looks crazy. I want nobody to ever see the mix of things that's on my for you page. But I do feel like I get served a lot of manifestation content where it makes things feel really complicated. It's like, like today's new moon. You have to have a 3 by 5 inch piece of paper and burn it at the correct degree where it's like okay, like this is so specific. This is so confusing. I appreciate when people talk about manifestation more so as a state of being instead of like here's this 12 step process of this really jumbled, confusing list of things to do. But I am curious if you feel like there are specific methods that are helpful for manifestation or if you do feel like it is more of that frequency, state of being or maybe a combination of the two.

B (46:40)

Yeah, that's a great question. And I really believe with anything like you just mentioned like the new moon or writing it 50 times or whatever it is, those are all just tools. There's these tools that you can use and if that resonates with you, great. If that's what helps you, you know, believe that you're going to get your manifestation more then great. But ultimately as you said, manifesting really can be and really is just a state of being. The law of assumption. Which is kind of like a woo woo idea. But it really is just this, this law, this theory that whatever you decide is true is the truth. Whatever you decide is gonna work for you, is gonna work for you. Like if you decide that yeah, you are gonna get all your manifestations, you are a lucky person, you are gonna be a millionaire or whatever, live your dream life, have your dream mansion, whatever it is that is gonna be true to you. At the beginning I liked doing more of These like, techniques of, you know, maybe you've heard like the 3 6, 9 method or whatever it is, or, you know, sometimes I like a little new moon ritual or whatever it is. Cause it feels fun. It, it feels good at the time. But ultimately you really do have so much power inside of your own mind making those decisions that yes, I am going to decide that everything's working out for me. I'm gonna decide to embody the version of me who has everything that she wants. And you know, on to my clients or on, on, on my socials. A lot I talk about how you kind of just have to act as if you can act as if you are living your dream life. You can act as if you are wildly abundant right now, or you can act as if everything's working out for you. And that I think is, is one of the best ways to manifest is just acting as if it's kind of like method acting. And you know, a lot of people talk about how. And I really believe that it's more your identity. Right. Who are you identifying as? Are you identifying as a lucky person? Are you identifying as someone who. Everything works out for you and you can change that identity at any time. And it might feel fake at first. That's the thing. It might feel fake at first if you're, if you've been going years of your life thinking that you're a victim or thinking that nothing works out for you, when you decide to start feeling more lucky or embodying that, embodying a confident version of you. It might feel fake at first, but eventually it's going to start feeling more real. Eventually you're going to start seeking out more things in your reality to prove that you are a lucky person, that things do work out for you. And these huge, you know, delusional. Delusional goals. I, I like the word delusional. Maybe we can talk about that. These huge, you know, delusional goals are going to start feeling like it's going to be normal for you. Like it's not. Yeah, it kind of starts to feel like it's not even delusional. It's like, yeah, duh, of course I'm going to get everything that I want. And so kind of, to answer your question, whatever works for you. You know, it's like if you like those rituals, if you like those different types of things to manifest, that's awesome. But I don't think you have to do anything in order to manifest. I think embodying that energy really is the most important thing. And you can make that decision, which is really cool.

A (49:37)

As you were describing that, I was trying to think of an example where I'm like, okay, when have I done that? And the best example that I can think of would be when it comes to fitness, because I got my start in fitness and I used to create fitness content years ago. And a question that I still get to this day is like, how can I be disciplined enough to work out? How, how do I start working out? And I had to think about my own fitness journey because I went from the most like, lazy, not interested in fitness, fitness person to being a very fit person. And I remember that shift happened for me in my early 20s when I started seeing other girls my age at the gym who were like super athletic, super strong, and just being like, I'm going to be one of those girls. What would one of those girls do when she comes to the gym? I just have to reprogram myself to just be a person who works out. And it's not even necessarily about how much you're lifting or what program you're doing, doing or what, but just building the habit of doing. It was like I had to take on the identity of one of those fit girls and then making the decisions that one of those fit girls would make. Fifteen years later, it's like still a big part of who I am. And that was the best example I could think of of when I felt like I first started consciously doing it. And I think sometimes we, we want the feeling to come before the action, but the action actually usually needs to come before the feeling.

B (50:55)

It's like starting to embody that version of you and it's starting to identify as someone who is fit, someone who likes to go to the gym or someone who takes care of their body or whatever it is. And when you start to identify as that first, then you start to naturally take more of those steps. I've definitely done that for myself when I started working out more. But when I started to identify as like, oh, I'm just someone who always moves their body, that's a non negotiable for me. And I literally, I'm like, okay, it's not hard to wake up and go to the gym or go on a walk at least, because that's just who I am. And when you start to identify as that first, then you start to naturally take those actions. So to your point, I 100% agree.

A (51:35)

Yeah, it just like becomes who you are.

B (51:37)

Yes.

A (51:37)

And then you don't necessarily need discipline, motivation. It just, it's Second nature.

B (51:41)

Yes, exactly.

A (51:43)

And I feel like in some ways, it is kind of that subconscious reprogramming because you're not relying on your own willpower or decision making. It's just like, this is who I am.

B (51:52)

When you start to get really clear on who that version of you is, it's a lot easier to. To start doing it.

C (51:58)

Yeah. Yeah.

A (51:59)

Okay, so let's get into the delusional thing. Cause I know this is an area that we have differing opinions, which I actually think is kind of fun. When I put my manifestations on a pedestal, that is when, for me, they have been a lot harder to reach. And so when I started describing, you know, things that I want or I hear people describe things that they want, they're like, I'm being delusional. I would love to hear more so, like, what you think and why you encourage people to have what you consider, like, big delusional dreams.

B (52:24)

Yeah, totally. So know a lot of things because I love this topic. So it's like, no, we can talk about the fun stuff. I kind of like the word delusional. I kind of like. You know, it's a. My. My podcast is called Inspired Delusions, and I think we're kind of trying to rebrand the word delusional to be more of, like, a good thing. And. Because I really think that having, like, a delusional goal should be, like, a really, really, really, really big goal. That's what has resonated with me, because, like, the bigger my goals, the more inspiration that I have to go towards those goals, if that makes sense. I wouldn't necessarily say, for me, it's like putting it on a pedestal. I think the bigger the goal is, I take more inspired action. And we actually recently had a neuroscientist on the podcast who. Who agreed with me, who said, like, it's good to have, you know, these really huge delusional goals because, one, it actually gives your brain more dopamine if you have, like, a really, really, really big goal. And again, not. Not getting a new job or, like, not having, like, a semi decent boyfriend or whatever. It's like, when you have these huge goals, it actually gives your brain more dopamine, which is the motivational chemical. So it's like, it literally gives you more motivation to go after your goal. So I think me and you, ultimately, we do agree, because it's like you're.

A (53:37)

Just using different words.

B (53:38)

We're just using different words because, yeah, my goals, I would say, like, maybe you're using the example of growing your podcast, like 5x or whatever, it's like, yeah, that actually is not delusional. Like that literally is realistic. And it's like a delusional goal would be like, hey, you want to have the number one podcast? Like, let's beat you know, who, who's number one or whatever. And that's more of like a delusional goal, which again could be realistic. Like that could happen. And I think that's what is fun for me is having those huge, huge, huge goals. And it gives your brain more motivation to kind of go after it. And when you are, are normalizing something else that the neuroscientists talked about is when you start to visualize yourself receiving these huge goals, it starts to normalize it in your brain. And so it's less scary, right? If you never think about like the best, best case scenario, if you never think about that, it's gonna feel so far away, it's gonna feel scary to your brain and to your nervous system. But if you start to like visualize that, visualize yourself winning, visualize yourself receiving like these huge goals, it starts to normalize it. And the more you normalize something, the less resistance you have towards it. So I don't know if that makes sense.

A (54:48)

I think speaks to the importance of expanders totally, because it's like if you don't know that something is possible, you don't think that something is possible. You're not surrounded by people who think that something is possible. You're going to be really limited by what it is you see. And having an expanded definition of what you think is possible. Or I like to use audacious for these like big, audacious, ambitious goals that you're trying to reach. Like the higher you shoot, the higher you'll land. And also having people around you who like, believe in that too and are willing to push you towards that is super important.

B (55:21)

Yeah, totally. The expanders is so huge, our subconscious mind, it's a lot easier for us to visualize ourselves receiving huge goals or receiving what we want if we can see other people receiving that. And it starts to normalize it to our mind. So yeah, that's so true. I do like the word audacious. Have more audacious goals and dreaming bigger. I love how you just said the higher you aim, you know, the higher you'll land. I think is what you said. And that's so true too. I think that's goes along with this, this idea. Have you heard of like the 10x whatever your goals are, 10 exit and then that's what your goal should be. Because when you. Again, when you have this huge goal when it's like so big, it kind of starts to get rid of the. These little details, the like, minute little details. Your brain stops, like, worrying about those kind of things and starts to think a bit, a little bit bigger, bigger picture. I loved learning about the 10x rule because, like, yeah, it's basically what being delusional is, is like dreaming so big and expanding your mind to what's possible. Because if you 10x your goals and then you have this huge goal in mind, even if you get 10% of it, 20% of it, it's like better than what you were gonna get originally. Dreaming bigger is essentially my whole mission is, is truly helping people to remember that they can manifest anything and, and like, not limiting ourselves. I think so many people don't even let themselves dream big or let themselves imagine themselves receiving everything they want or receiving the number one spot, for example, because they think they should be like, realistic. And I loved your episode that said, don't be realistic. I a hundred percent agree.

A (57:00)

I think what most people consider realistic, I consider down horrendous.

B (57:05)

Exactly. Like, no, literally the trenches.

A (57:08)

And I'm like, well, if that's realistic, I don't want it.

B (57:10)

Exactly. And, and Will Smith talks about, you know, how ever every successful person is kind of like a little bit delusional. And I, I love his quote, which he says, you know, being realistic is the fastest road to mediocrity. It's like, okay, well, if you want a mediocre life, then, yeah, have mediocre goals. But if you know that you're destined for more, if you have that calling in your. In your heart that you are meant for more, it's like, dream bigger. And don't be worried about disappointment. Don't be worried that maybe your ego is going to like, take a little bit hit if you don't get, like exactly what you want. But like, you might as well dream big because the higher you aim, the higher you're gonna land.

C (57:48)

Yeah, yeah.

A (57:49)

It reminds me of the story that I heard about Serena Williams when she was still playing tennis about how, I don't remember if it was like a certain number of points she wanted to score or an average that she wanted to beat, but there was like either a certain number of points and she was like, right here. She kept getting so close, but just was hitting a blank block with reaching it. And so finally her coach decided actually instead of having you reach, you know, this point of however many points. Let's have you aim for this. Let's have you, like, go 10 points higher than that for what you're aiming for. And then she crushed that and like, surpassed both of them because she was blocked from just not aiming high enough. And it was one of those examples that I, like, loved.

B (58:31)

I love that. That gave me chills. That's so true. Yeah. That it's, it's. The higher you can set your goals, the higher you can set your. Your vision to, the further you're going to get. And, and just realizing that if you're not letting yourself dream big, if you're not letting yourself expect those things, and you are the. You're the person holding yourself back. Like you're the first line of defense in your dreams and your, in your goals. It's like if you're not even literally letting yourself imagine that, which I really, really believe that whatever we are imagining, whatever we're visualizing that's being created, that also is proven in quantum physics and quantum mechanics and stuff. And so if you're not even letting yourself imagine that, then you're not even moving towards that version of reality.

A (59:14)

I think so much of it comes back to, and we talked about this, feeling safe enough to, to let yourself imagine these different things, feeling safe enough.

C (59:23)

To get your hopes up.

A (59:24)

And I think it's why so many of those practices, whether it's like the tapping, the mirror work, the affirmations, the journaling, whatever helps you feel safe enough to, to just hope and wonder is like foundational.

B (59:36)

Yeah, totally. Yeah. Especially heavy on the nervous system regulation, heavy on reparenting yourself almost. You know, if you were told that you're not good enough, if you're told that you shouldn't dream big, if you're told that you need to be realistic or whatever it is, really, really rewiring those beliefs and helping yourself feel safe, helping your body feel safe. I think having like a huge, huge, huge delusional goal, it kind of automatically brings you up against those limiting beliefs. It kind of automatically brings you up to like, feeling nervous. And that's where you can kind of like recognize it. Start to tell yourself it is safe. Start to normalize it again. Normalize it to your brain and to your body. And then eventually it doesn't feel as scary and it feels normal. It feels safe.

A (60:21)

Exactly.

B (60:21)

Yeah.

C (60:22)

Yeah.

A (60:22)

Olivia, thank you so much for joining me today.

B (60:25)

Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. This was so fun. I hope you're on. Audience was inspired to dream bigger and realize that they literally have so much power inside of them.

A (60:36)

I feel like now more than ever, now is the time to really, like, believe in the power that we have. Obviously, there's so much happening in the world, and it is really difficult time that there's no better time to really believe in yourself and to believe in what's possible for you.

B (60:52)

Totally. One of my favorite quotes is radical optimism is the only way way out. It's like, you know, you might as well be radically optimistic and. And dream big. And because we're. It's like, that's a much better way to live life. It's a much better feeling, you know, to go through your life just assuming everything's gonna work out for you rather than the opposite. So thank you so much for having me.

C (61:13)

Yeah.

A (61:13)

So please let our audience know where.

C (61:14)

They can find you, how they can work with you.

B (61:17)

Yeah. So you can find me at oliviarose thomas on Instagram and TikTok and, you know, you can. Can look at my links and in my bios to kind of see the options. I have a group coaching program and I have a podcast, like I mentioned, called Inspired Delusions where we talk about being delusional and dreaming big and remembering how powerful you are. And yeah, full. Full government name on my social stuff.

A (61:42)

We love it. Put it right on main.

C (61:43)

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B (61:46)

Thank you so much.

C (61:46)

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