The Holes Episode feat. Cody Campbell and Jelly Roll

Summary

Shutdown Fullcast: "The Holes Episode" feat. Cody Campbell and Jelly Roll

Date: June 17, 2026
Host(s): Spencer Hall, Jason Kirk, Ryan Nanni, Holly Anderson, Josh Pate, Cerber ("Server")

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Episode Overview

This episode of Shutdown Fullcast, never content to confine itself to college football, takes listeners on a surreal, uproarious journey through nostalgia, pool maintenance politics, the myth of Jelly Roll, and—eventually—the latest seismic drama in college football involving Cody Campbell, Texas Tech, and quarterback Brendan Sorsby. In classic Fullcast style, the hosts careen between deep sports analysis and absurd bits, punctuated with wild asides about inspirational music videos, the alleged omnipotence of Florida pool guys, and subreddit shenanigans.

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Key Topics and Insights

1. Nostalgia, Bar Mitzvahs, and Inspirational Songs

(00:00–04:25)

• The show opens with playful banter about winning Cassingles and the coveted Space Jam soundtrack at bar mitzvah party games.
• Discussion turns to the fraught legacy of R. Kelly and the prevalence of “problematic” motivational anthems ("I Believe I Can Fly").
• Spencer Hall offers a detailed, comedic breakdown of Garth Brooks' "Standing Outside the Fire" video, highlighting its melodramatic tropes and athletic stunts:
  • Spencer: "This kid fucking eats shit... it looks like he is thrown into the earth, right? ... It almost undermines the whole video." (03:25)

2. Inspirational Videos and Overwrought Emotions

(04:25–07:01)

• The hosts agree more "inspirational" sports videos are needed, joking that Garth Brooks should direct them.
• Holly Anderson wryly compares Oasis' ethos with Garth Brooks.

3. Jelly Roll, Divorce, and Constructing Celebrity Myths

(17:01–32:05)

• Cerber launches into a running bit as “Jelly Roll,” mourning his (real) divorce and musing on what his ex called him ("Jelly Stain").
• The conversation spirals into whether anyone knows what Jelly Roll really sounds like and if Cerber’s impression could become the canonical “Jelly Roll” for Fullcast listeners.
  • Josh Pate: "For, like, there is a percentage of the world... that view Cerber as the canonical Jelly Roll." (27:21)
• A plan emerges to spread this alternate Jelly Roll myth through Reddit and to create splits—“True Jelly Roll” vs. “False Jelly Roll”—in a mock-religious vibe.
  • Spencer Hall: "I like that we’re accidentally endeavoring to create like a Sunni Shia split in Jelly Roll as well." (28:42)
• The bit expands to multiverse possibilities: Jelly Roll noir, alternate Jelly Rolls, Spider-Verse/Ant Viv cosmic swaps.
  • Spencer Hall: "I thought we were gonna do Spider-Verse and I could end up being Jelly Roll noir." (32:35)

4. Pool Maintenance and Political Allegory

(07:07–13:56)

• Ryan Nanni lambasts the presidential administration for botching maintenance of the National Mall's reflecting pool, arguing Florida’s only real civic virtue is competent pool care:
  • Ryan Nanni: "The one thing that Floridians are good at... is pool maintenance." (09:05)
  • Holly Anderson: (Joking) "Like this is the closest thing y’all have to family values." (09:55)
• Multiple hosts join in critiquing poor algae control and laugh at the politicians’ poorly executed remediation efforts.

5. Podcast Business: Ads, Merch, and Promotion

(33:32–43:49)
Note: Skipping all non-content ad reads and business.

6. Cody Campbell, Texas Tech, Sorsby, and the Red Line

(48:10–72:16)

• Conversation shifts to college football’s latest saga: the legal and administrative chaos following Texas Tech’s “tampering” scandal and attempts to keep QB Brendan Sorsby eligible through the courts.
• The rapid news cycle: from “the sport is ending” to “eh, it’ll be fine” in less than a day.
  • Holly Anderson: "How long did it take to go from that to, oh, no, it’ll be fine? Everything’s fine." (48:10)
  • Spencer Hall: "17 minutes. 17 minutes." (48:34)
• The whole thing is characterized as a performative crisis driven mostly by drama and identity, not principled policy—mirroring politics.
  • Spencer Hall: "...the thing that you’re actually addicted to is drama and emotion. The actual specifics of that policy don’t matter at all." (06:17)
• They discuss the overreaction machine of college football media and the endless “college football is dying!” takes.
  • Ryan Nanni: "...if there’s one thing college football has shown over the last, let’s say 50 years, [it] is tenacious. It does not want to die, even if you think that it should sometimes." (52:20)

7. Supplemental Draft and the Will/Skill to Keep Fighting

(54:30–70:16)

• On Sorsby bailing: more a story of personal cost than abstract cause.
  • Spencer Hall: "I appreciate Brendan Sorsby’s honesty and knowing that he’s not a Joan of Arc. The man to lead us." (55:23)
• Analysis on institutional self-interest (conferences as businesses) overruling any sense of sports “purity.”
  • Ryan Nanni: "What I appreciate about the Big 12's complaint is they were pretty upfront. They were like, this is bad for business and we are a business." (53:08)
• Speculation about how LSU (or other schools) would have handled it—conclusion: they’d have been sneakier, not louder.

8. Meta-Jokes, Institutional Memory, and Future of College Football

(70:45–79:34)

• The hosts lampoon Tech’s ineptitude—"better at crime" is LSU’s specialty.
  • Spencer Hall: "They’re better at crime and being sneaky..." (71:15)
• Extended bit on the futility of Tech fans dreaming of switching conferences.
  • Josh Pate: "ACC don’t want you, man. Where the fuck you going to go?" (74:12)
• Planning to have Cody Campbell as a guest just to ask: "Dog, what the fuck are you doing?" (77:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This kid fucking eats shit... it looks like he is thrown into the earth, right? ... It almost undermines the whole video."
  — Spencer Hall (03:25), on Garth Brooks' music video

• "The one thing that Floridians are good at... is pool maintenance."
  — Ryan Nanni (09:05)

• "For, like, there is a percentage of the world... that view Cerber as the canonical Jelly Roll."
  — Josh Pate (27:21)

• "I like that we’re accidentally endeavoring to create like a Sunni Shia split in Jelly Roll as well."
  — Spencer Hall (28:42)

• "If there’s one thing college football has shown over the last, let’s say 50 years, the is tenacious. It does not want to die, even if you think that it should sometimes."
  — Ryan Nanni (52:20)

• "17 minutes. 17 minutes."
  — Spencer Hall (48:34), on the time from apocalypse to apathy in college football scandals

• "They’re better at crime and being sneaky..."
  — Spencer Hall (71:15), referring to LSU

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [00:00–04:25] — Cassingles/bar mitzvah nostalgia & inspirational song bit
• [07:07–14:11] — Pool maintenance allegory: national scandal, Florida pride
• [17:01–32:05] — Jelly Roll divorce saga, mythmaking, subreddit plans
• [48:10–55:23] — Texas Tech/Cody Campbell/Sourceby, “college football is dying” cycle
• [55:23–70:16] — Institutional self-interest, courts, LSU, lasting lessons

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Tone & Style Notes

• The episode is irreverent, whip-smart, frequently absurd, and relentlessly digressive—exactly as fans of the Fullcast expect.
• Signature bits: running meta-jokes about celebrity identity, college football’s perpetual crises, politician parodies, and self-mythologizing through weird, made-up lore.

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Summary Takeaway

A 90-minute journey through Fullcast’s trademark chaos: College football’s absurdity provides only a partial backdrop for wild bits about music, pools, politics, Jelly Roll, Reddit, and the institutional lunacy that undergirds the sport. At its core, this episode is about how fans, administrators, and yes, even the podcast hosts, channel their anxiety and need for identity through sports—sometimes for better, often for laughs, and always for more drama.

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For Further Listening

• For more on the Texas Tech, Cody Campbell, and transfer saga, see the previous few weeks of the Shutdown Fullcast.
• If you want even less college football content, skip to the next episode. If you want even more unhinged, join the “True Jelly Roll” subreddit. (Just don't blame the Fullcast if it causes a multiversal split.)

Transcript

[Ryan Nanni]

I don't know how you could hold a bar mitzvah without Casingals. Honestly, like, the greatest thing you could win at a bar mitzvah party game was a kissingle of the era. No.

[Jason Kirk]

No question.

[Spencer Hall]

Specifically, The Quad City DJs. Come on.

[Ryan Nanni]

100%. 100%.

[Jason Kirk]

Damn. I got Casey and Jojo Lucky.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's right. It's about prayer. It's appropriate for the moment.

[Josh Pate]

Got the whole Space Jam soundtrack.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's right.

[Spencer Hall]

If you could assemble the whole Space Jam soundtrack just using Casingals. Incredible. Thanos ain't got on you.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's that Hit them high. That's really gonna be that. Yo, you gotta search far and wide for that.

[Josh Pate]

And then you can, like.

[Holly Anderson]

Do you mean high and low?

[Josh Pate]

Discard the R. Kelly a little bit.

[Ryan Nanni]

You can. You can. You can make your own version of the.

[Josh Pate]

You see, you were speaking yourself. Yeah, that's right.

[Jason Kirk]

Good call, Holly.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Do you enjoy how approximately 15% of the inspirational cuts on YouTube all became deeply problematic the minute the R. Kelly story broke? I believe I can.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's such a bummer, too, because, like, seals fly like an eagle is right there.

[Server]

This.

[Ryan Nanni]

Basically the same vibe.

[Holly Anderson]

Miley Cyrus, the Climb is right there.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah,

[Holly Anderson]

you can. Yeah, you can replace Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort in the Harry Potter movie.

[Ryan Nanni]

Just. Just swap. Standing Outside the Fire and for all of them. That's it, Ryan. That's the one.

[Spencer Hall]

Go back and watch it. Standing Outside the fire video

[Holly Anderson]

for 4 minutes and 44 seconds.

[Ryan Nanni]

Imagine a compilation of dunks set to Standing outside. That'd be great. You would love that. Don't lie.

[Spencer Hall]

Because the Standing Outside the Fire video, do you remember what it was, Ryan?

[Ryan Nanni]

I haven't watched it in a while.

[Spencer Hall]

Oh. I'm gonna bring you up to speed.

[Holly Anderson]

Okay.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm gonna preface all of this by saying that this employs a rhetorical lane that was first noted by Oscar Wilde, as far as I can know where he said that if you could read the Death of Little Nell in Little Dorrit by Charles Dickens without breaking into laughter, then you had a heart of stone, right? Like that. It was something so over the top that you had to laugh. So the video.

[Holly Anderson]

I'm being specific here. Is this the one with the big truck?

[Spencer Hall]

This is the one. Are you thinking of the Enter Sandman video?

[Holly Anderson]

No, hang on. I'm not making this up.

[Spencer Hall]

This is the one where there is a kid and there is a kid who is competing in the Special Olympics. And in the video, his father. His father is unsupportive. Of him because I guess he just doesn't accept him as a child. Which, first of all, quite the setup there to start with. You know, this guy's relatable. He's got a kid.

[Holly Anderson]

I'm looking at it right now. They got a big like classic or is that a Wagoneer?

[Spencer Hall]

I have forgotten the vehicle.

[Holly Anderson]

I remembered the vehicle, but for. Or maybe it's like an old Bronco. I remember the vehicle but forgot the rest of the video.

[Spencer Hall]

It's one of the most Tennessee things that you have ever done is to be like, hey, that's the video of the kick ass truck.

[Holly Anderson]

No, you're autistic.

[Spencer Hall]

So anyway, that being a relatable start for the video, right? The father who's like. And by the way, this kid's been around for a minute. This kid's like. Like, I want to say 14.

[Holly Anderson]

This kid is varsity blues age.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, I'm looking at the Wikipedia page and he is a high school student.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, he's a high school student. The dad's still like, oh, I'm mad

[Server]

that I had a son.

[Spencer Hall]

You know, like just the dumbest shit you've ever seen in your life. And he falls down. And the thing is, is that this is a Garth Brooks video. So he's going to get up and it's going to be emotional, right? It kind of undermines itself by the fact that this kid fucking eats shit. Oh my God. He hits the ground like he's been dropped from a plane. Like, I don't know if the kid did his own stunts or if it was a stunt performer, but some sort of award should have been given for the work here because it looks like he is thrown into the earth, right? And when that happened, I galactus and he's pissed.

[Server]

And.

[Spencer Hall]

And I remember watching the video and being like, ah, this is inspiring. But holy shit, that was funny as shit when the kid absolutely ate shit. Like he just hits the ground so hard. It almost undermines the whole video. This is my way of saying that. That there need to be more inspirational videos.

[Ryan Nanni]

No, he's not Felder.

[Spencer Hall]

No, I'm not Felder. I'm not. I'm not crying over this. I might have been crying because I was watching Oasis live clips before. That still makes me weep.

[Josh Pate]

Does this kid get thrown to the ground as hard as the Egypt player who scored a goal yesterday and was immediately flattened by one of his teammates in celebration?

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, this is. This is some Matt Elam on his teammate.

[Holly Anderson]

Wait, I was gonna ask if they had an Egyptian Matt Elam. There's a third.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, this is he. He went down as hard as the player the Belgium player tossed yesterday in the box. Like, apparently you could just occasionally throw people in soccer, but yeah, he hits the ground like he. Like his chute didn't open.

[Holly Anderson]

That's why it's called a pitch.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, but more inspirational videos, please. We need like tons of those. And most of them should be directed by Garth Brooks because he's a cinematic genius.

[Holly Anderson]

An oasis is the opposite of standing outside the fire.

[Server]

Oh, my.

[Spencer Hall]

In it.

[Server]

Whoa. In it.

[Spencer Hall]

Ryan, occasionally you remind me of why you're a genius. Oh, boy. One of the times that. Because you know that this is a political podcast.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah. First and foremost, we're your home for politics, news and opinion.

[Spencer Hall]

You'll never catch us on a secret discussion groups list with fascists. You won't. I guarantee you.

[Josh Pate]

No.

[Ryan Nanni]

Property brother shall. Shall grace this podcast.

[Spencer Hall]

Our Membership to the Texags Politics Board is 100% open. Our name is right there and you can see it. Also, we're there for the combat. Right? We are. When they're like, hey, and the snacks. Yeah. I'm going to win over the Texas politics board.

[Josh Pate]

We're in Texas.

[Holly Anderson]

No.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, I'm going to win over the Texas Politics board to socialism. Eventually it's going to happen.

[Josh Pate]

Sure.

[Spencer Hall]

Right. Based on this, by the way, those people, if you feel that strongly about politics, the thing that you're actually addicted to is drama and emotion. That's what you are. Right? That's part of your identity. The actual specifics of that policy don't matter at all. All you want is an enemy. That's all you want. That's how you exist. Right. So we're just going to get you on the other side here. Okay? There's a fine line between the libertarian who's infuriated that somebody told him that he has to pay to have his garbage collected and Joseph Stalin robbing banks to fund the revolution.

[Ryan Nanni]

Look at the disgusting capitalism of ut. Rejected brothers.

[Jason Kirk]

Reject it.

[Spencer Hall]

That's right. It's gross. It's bourgeois. It's soft handed.

[Holly Anderson]

What? Stalin.

[Spencer Hall]

They don't make anything. Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

Oh, wow.

[Holly Anderson]

Think about it.

[Spencer Hall]

So point being, you had a brilliant political point that you made in our pre show meeting. Which we definitely have.

[Holly Anderson]

Which he did make in a group chat that is private, I guess we should point out.

[Josh Pate]

Damn. Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

And that Peter Teal's in.

[Server]

God damn it.

[Ryan Nanni]

Damn it.

[Holly Anderson]

Dude. No,

[Ryan Nanni]

it doesn't smell that crazy.

[Holly Anderson]

Doesn't know enough ball.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Yeah. The. Yeah.

[Holly Anderson]

Also we that's our only objection to Peter Teal, to be clear.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, but him before Ezra Klein, to be clear.

[Jason Kirk]

Imagine him saying, please don't drink our.

[Spencer Hall]

Just the word.

[Josh Pate]

Sounds like I'm not in this chat, Bo. It's Ball.

[Ryan Nanni]

Well, Jason, I'll catch you up to speed. Yeah, you may be familiar, you and listener may be familiar with the fact that the President of the United States made a big deal about. Hey, reflecting pool not blue enough. Got to make this fucker much more blue. Blue like water? No, blue like blue Eminem blue. That's kind of blue.

[Holly Anderson]

Water by Davidoff.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's right.

[Holly Anderson]

Say that.

[Ryan Nanni]

Got it. Like why pool not blue? Pool must be much more blue. Hired painters at definitely market rates to paint the surface of the reflecting pool. Again, the thing that lies in between. It's the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. For memory serves.

[Holly Anderson]

It's not a very good pool anyway. Very shallow.

[Ryan Nanni]

Not an awesome pool as pools go.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah, they should call it something else if you're not supposed to chicken fight in it.

[Ryan Nanni]

Roughly a month later, I'm gonna just guess I'm not gonna do any research here because again, this is a politics podcast. We don't have to do that. The reflecting pool. Algae covered, total nightmare. Poor pool maintenance and I.

[Holly Anderson]

It's like Joker acid.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's aggressive, it's aggressively green. And this is where my native Floridians spidey sense goes off. Because Floridians are bad at lots of things.

[Spencer Hall]

So many things.

[Ryan Nanni]

So like, we don't even need to list the things that Floridians are bad at. Why? Because the local news will tell you almost always what those things are. Relatedly, I'm really mad about the. The influx of fake AI lady stopped in mall for riding camel. Like that was never real. We have real bonkers news aplenty. You don't need AI to generate more of it for you. Anyway, I submit that the one thing that Floridians are good at, because there's a lot of them and because they paid too much money for them and because it's just too hot to live there most of the time, is pool maintenance. Pool maintenance matters in Florida. The idea that you should not have a pool full of leaves covered in algae.

[Holly Anderson]

Like this is the closest thing y' all have to family values a hundred percent.

[Ryan Nanni]

And you think like you might be saying, are these community pools? No, no, no. It's Florida that we're talking about. These are. These are pools by and large owned by single families. We're not. We're not sharing. Florida has not gotten to that stage of things. But to see our nation's most famous pool. I don't think we have, like, I don't think we have a more famous pool in the United States. To see it fall into this level of disrepair and frankly, like, disgustingness.

[Holly Anderson]

You said a shitty New Yorker and now he's a shitty Floridian.

[Ryan Nanni]

100% to the point where now there's. There's footage of like, I assume like parks patrol, people just. Just dumping hydro. I think it's hydrochloric acid. I don't know what it is.

[Holly Anderson]

It was hydrogen peroxide.

[Ryan Nanni]

Hydrogen peroxide.

[Holly Anderson]

Which they were just pouring a gallon jug into in the corner. Like. Sure, yes, sure, sure, Darren. Whatever looks like a Darren. It'll. That'll help.

[Ryan Nanni]

It just shows.

[Jason Kirk]

Remind me to never let you treat a cut on me.

[Ryan Nanni]

Oh, sorry about that. Yeah, no.

[Jason Kirk]

When you pour hydrochloric acid on my

[Spencer Hall]

cut server, we have some news about our plans for the rest of the episode.

[Ryan Nanni]

Okay.

[Spencer Hall]

It's a gentleman at your door. He's coming in whether you like it or not.

[Ryan Nanni]

Do you know what. Do you know what won't hurt anymore? Server? The cut. After I'm done with you, there won't

[Jason Kirk]

be anything below it, that's for sure.

[Spencer Hall]

Nothing. Nothing will hurt anymore.

[Ryan Nanni]

This level of pool laziness, I'll just call what it is. It's just. It's just lazy ass pool maintenance.

[Holly Anderson]

We call it like we see it here on this politics podcast.

[Ryan Nanni]

It should. It won't, but it should lose the Republican party, the state of Florida for a long time. Like, you can't.

[Holly Anderson]

Your pool king.

[Ryan Nanni]

You cannot make pool this central to your domestic plan. Like, how could I trust him with a ballroom if he can't take care of pool?

[Holly Anderson]

You can't trust him with a ball pit.

[Ryan Nanni]

How moldy and gross and in disrepair would the ballroom get if we can't take care of pool? We know how to take care of pool.

[Spencer Hall]

Again, only thing.

[Jason Kirk]

Only thing.

[Ryan Nanni]

Just thousands of Floridians successfully do it year after year after year.

[Holly Anderson]

The grotiest administration. Like, yeah, high school kids clean pools for a living.

[Ryan Nanni]

How do you not have Eric out there with the scrub brush, get the algae off the. Does the pool matter?

[Holly Anderson]

Be in the sun. That.

[Ryan Nanni]

That might be a good solution to a few things.

[Holly Anderson]

I don't mean for sunburn. I mean for.

[Ryan Nanni]

For vampirism.

[Holly Anderson]

Not even real. Well, technically, we've all seen annihilation, right?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes.

[Holly Anderson]

Sorry. They're folks. They're giving me the wrap up sign. We should finish this conversation.

[Ryan Nanni]

I just. Yeah. Like, I can't remember the last time I. We had a press and look, if you asked me before all this happened, do you think the president knows anything about pool maintenance? I would have said no. He's never done it a day in his life.

[Holly Anderson]

He's never thought he could maybe name colors.

[Ryan Nanni]

He's. He's never. He's never had to unclog a creepy crawly. Not once. He's never had to deal with a pool filter.

[Spencer Hall]

Never had to fish a frog out of the filter.

[Holly Anderson]

Frog out while it was frog die in front of the kids.

[Ryan Nanni]

None of it. None of it. He's not certain. He's never even checked a pool thermometer. Do you think he's ever gotten that weird little chemistry kit they give you at the pool supply store where they're

[Holly Anderson]

like floats in water?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes, but mostly for disturbing reasons.

[Spencer Hall]

Having zero muscle mass means you're actually really buoyant.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, it's like a Dr. Eggman kind of.

[Spencer Hall]

He fl. Yeah. He floats for the same reason that a fat bird floats. Right? Yeah. Like. Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah. It should be. Should be a death knell for the Republicans in Florida. And every day that Ron DeSantis and members of. And Marco Rubio and other members of the Republican Party in Florida don't speak out against what he's done to our nation's pool. It's a stain. Yeah.

[Holly Anderson]

Where are the lobbyists, man? You think at least the pool lobby would be all over this.

[Ryan Nanni]

You think they'd step up and solve the problem? But instead we went from pool that you probably didn't think that much to dirtiest pool you've ever seen in our nation's capital.

[Spencer Hall]

They've been bought off by big algae.

[Josh Pate]

So they spent $14 million to. To fix the pool. And then after that was when the algae appeared.

[Spencer Hall]

Correct.

[Josh Pate]

I'm catching up on all of this now. There were they awarded no contracts to various companies which, like, I'm just going to assume SpaceX was the one that was cleaning the pool in the first place. No, there's no blue at all.

[Ryan Nanni]

No.

[Josh Pate]

In fact, it's green.

[Spencer Hall]

Or now no blue origin, green destination.

[Josh Pate]

They done terraformed it. They turned it green. Great job. They finally found something they can turn green.

[Ryan Nanni]

Which. Which country has a green flag? Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Put the pieces together, people. Put it together.

[Server]

Oh, Mendoza. It.

[Spencer Hall]

Welcome to the shutdown full cast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am Spencer Hall. I got questions for everybody. Hey, Jason. How you doing today?

[Josh Pate]

Hey, I'm fine.

[Spencer Hall]

How are you?

[Holly Anderson]

Who's Jason?

[Spencer Hall]

That's Jason Kirk. He's hosting the show with us, you know. You enjoying your summer thus far, Jason?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Why are you asking?

[Spencer Hall]

I'm a friend.

[Holly Anderson]

I'm a friend. Like a trap.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm a friend.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, it's going fine, but is there. Is there some sort of improv I'm supposed to be doing in response to this? No, man, I'm doing great. How are you?

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

[Josh Pate]

Okay.

[Spencer Hall]

Ryan.

[Jason Kirk]

Ryan.

[Spencer Hall]

Because I'm a friend. Yeah, it's the thing I'm definitely good at.

[Holly Anderson]

Who's Ryan?

[Spencer Hall]

That's Ryan. He's over there. He's one of the hosts of the show for everybody.

[Holly Anderson]

Huh?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

And I wanted to see, like, how's your summer going, kids?

[Jason Kirk]

Good.

[Spencer Hall]

Like you say, keeping busy.

[Ryan Nanni]

Keeping busy. Haven't heard the Jelly Roll song for the World Cup. Have a good time.

[Spencer Hall]

I gotta say, I'm on Telemundo. I haven't heard it either at all. Because I watched somebody.

[Ryan Nanni]

Somebody told me they played it during a Stanley Cup Final. Like they're squirreling it in everywhere at this point. But I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm holding on, man. It has not befouled my ears so far.

[Spencer Hall]

Holly, your summer. Your summer going all right? That's Holly Anderson. She hosts the show too.

[Holly Anderson]

I almost got there. I've got. One of my toes hurts, but only one.

[Spencer Hall]

I mean, that's good.

[Holly Anderson]

That's interesting.

[Spencer Hall]

If it's only one, then you got nine others. Good job.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

Hey, Michael.

[Holly Anderson]

My left foot, three on my right.

[Server]

Michael.

[Spencer Hall]

Server. I was wondering what was going on with the world. How you doing?

[Jason Kirk]

I'm doing great. Everything's good with me, personally.

[Spencer Hall]

With you?

[Jason Kirk]

Yeah, with me.

[Spencer Hall]

You know that there's some people out there who are hurting, right?

[Jason Kirk]

I've heard that there are some people that are going through one of the worst things a person can go through.

[Spencer Hall]

Mm. A little elaborate. I'd love. I'd love to tell the people all about it.

[Server]

She said she wouldn't be part of my NASCAR lifestyle no more.

[Holly Anderson]

Oh, that is the Jelly Roll divorce. Klaxon.

[Server]

I like Monster Energy.

[Holly Anderson]

Brought to us by Napa Auto Parts. As always, thank you to our sponsors.

[Ryan Nanni]

Can I ask.

[Server]

She likes Serge.

[Ryan Nanni]

Can I ask a clarifying question?

[Holly Anderson]

When you're trying to clarify.

[Ryan Nanni]

Well, it's fair. When you're married to Jelly Roll for a decade, do you call him Jelly Roll at home? I want to be clear. I don't know jelly roll.

[Server]

10 best years of my life.

[Ryan Nanni]

I don't know Jelly Rolls. Christian name and. And much like his song, I don't want to know it. The less I know about Jelly Roll, I think the happier I am. So I'm trying to draw boundaries for myself. You have to know, and that's cool.

[Holly Anderson]

I'm not gonna tell you, but if

[Ryan Nanni]

you're married to Jelly Roll Ryan.

[Server]

Oh.

[Holly Anderson]

Oh, my God. No, it's not Ryan.

[Ryan Nanni]

Now, I really don't want. But do you call him Jelly? Do you call him Junior? Do you call him Mr. Roll?

[Spencer Hall]

I mean, Papa? I think you can call him plaintiff right now.

[Holly Anderson]

Like. Like in Little House on the Prairie, pa. Yeah, but you know, it's pronounced

[Spencer Hall]

like P A W. Sure, Mr.

[Holly Anderson]

Roll.

[Server]

She called me Jelly Stain last time.

[Spencer Hall]

I call him Jelly Rolling because it sounds like he's out of there. Sounds like he gone.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah. Who initiated this divorce?

[Spencer Hall]

Jelly Roll?

[Ryan Nanni]

I believe. I believe he did.

[Spencer Hall]

He filed.

[Server]

Yeah, that's what I had to say.

[Holly Anderson]

Kind of surprised to learn he believes in court for some reason.

[Server]

Do you think court saved me?

[Spencer Hall]

Does the court.

[Server]

I had. You had one hurt toe. I had seven in a courtroom.

[Holly Anderson]

That's a whole with no water.

[Josh Pate]

So her name is Bunny xo, correct?

[Holly Anderson]

What?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes.

[Server]

Don't you ever say that in front of me again.

[Josh Pate]

She appear? Yeah. Bun, I exo. Appears to be a podcaster, so maybe. Maybe. Maybe she's joining us instead.

[Ryan Nanni]

Maybe

[Holly Anderson]

Floyd, move over on the bench. On the guest bench over there so we can let Bun.

[Ryan Nanni]

I.

[Spencer Hall]

Listen. I really look forward to welcoming her to the full. The full cast cast. You know, it's either her or Jelly Roll. Whoever gets here first.

[Josh Pate]

We already have Jelly Roll.

[Holly Anderson]

We literally have Jelly Roll.

[Josh Pate]

We're gonna have them on to negotiate their amicable parting.

[Ryan Nanni]

So I don't think I missed it. Jelly Roll never announced his political.

[Josh Pate]

No, it's still. It's still formulating.

[Server]

It's coming soon.

[Ryan Nanni]

Do you think he raised it to Bunny xo. And she was like, you're these politics. I can't.

[Josh Pate]

I can't be part of what you're.

[Ryan Nanni]

Whatever it is. Whatever. Whatever political mind breaking you do.

[Josh Pate]

This manifesto, Jelly Roll, that you have written is to erudite and extreme both.

[Holly Anderson]

First of all, Zoroastrian is a religion, and that's not what you're describing. You just think it sounds cool.

[Spencer Hall]

I would also. I would point out that in form, like forming this religion. Right. We would have to know whether Jelly Roll saw him as prophet or administrator, it's two roles. You can, you know, you can be the prophet.

[Holly Anderson]

Jelly rollers.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Do you believe that this religion is channeled through you, or do you believe that you dictate it? Right. In other words, are you going to be. Do you want to be the ayatollah or do you want to be the prime minister of this Jelly Rollick republic?

[Josh Pate]

Do you think the clues are in the World cup song?

[Ryan Nanni]

I won't find out now.

[Holly Anderson]

We'll never know.

[Ryan Nanni]

I'll never know.

[Spencer Hall]

Listening to the Jelly Roll World cup song came up as a puzzle in the Indiana Jones game the other night, and I have stopped playing.

[Josh Pate]

I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I've heard it. Congrats if I have. I haven't noticed it.

[Jason Kirk]

I don't think I've heard it at all. And I've watched almost every match completely.

[Josh Pate]

I think part of it is the World cup is very easy to stop paying attention to at times. So, like, when you get the sense that it's looming, it is not hard to pull away.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah, it's like a series of masters naps if you get the right games. Mm.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

It also doesn't have, like, match starts. And with the exception of hydration break, we're not stopping and waiting and being like, all right, now we're gonna sneak the Jelly roll song on you. So as long as you're sort of like, laser focused on, like, I'm watching this while it's on and I'm not paying attention to it. When they cut to literally anything else, you can probably bob and weave pretty well around the Jelly Roll song so far. I'm not even sure Jelly Roll is real at this point.

[Server]

Like, oh, he's real, brother. Real heartbroken. Every time you say that, a little piece of me dies. That's why I'm losing all this weight.

[Holly Anderson]

Which part of your body. Wait, are you saying he's like Tinkerbell?

[Ryan Nanni]

Maybe.

[Server]

Yeah. You gotta say you believe in Jelly Roll.

[Josh Pate]

More like Stinker Bell.

[Ryan Nanni]

Look, Holly, you and Floyd and I were talking about this. We are all pretty convinced that we have never heard Jelly Roll.

[Holly Anderson]

No, I'm positive that I don't know what his actual voice.

[Ryan Nanni]

And there are lots of people who listen to the full cast. Who, for them, Cerber is the canonical jelly roll. And I'm like, this person is this famous. But I couldn't, like, I. I couldn't

[Josh Pate]

tell you the name of a song.

[Ryan Nanni]

Not one.

[Josh Pate]

No.

[Ryan Nanni]

Not a feature.

[Josh Pate]

If not anyone were to ask me the ways in which there is a real Jelly Roll that is distinct from Cerber's Jelly Roll, I would not be able to give you anything other than one is working on a political opinion

[Holly Anderson]

and he's got jail face.

[Ryan Nanni]

Right. And now he's getting divorced. But all of these are things that you could just say, like, listen, that's.

[Holly Anderson]

That's like, as much as I know about some of my cousins, at least

[Ryan Nanni]

I know that Morgan Wallen threw a chair off all off a honky tonk.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm pretty sure that Morgan Wallen. I'm definitely clear on his political opinion.

[Ryan Nanni]

Right?

[Josh Pate]

Well, yeah, I don't know any of his songs either. So if one of you were to begin doing a Morgan Wallen impression, please don't, because that'll be the end of the podcast.

[Holly Anderson]

Also, we won't know what you're doing.

[Ryan Nanni]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

But if you say, like, all right, it's time for my new bit. Right. Because, like, when Serber started doing Jelly Roll, it was very explanatory that I'm Jelly Roll.

[Jason Kirk]

Right?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

It was easy to. Ah, he said Jelly Roll, right?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah. And also it feels right, which is a weird thing to say about a person for which I have no frame of reference. Like, why does. This is a really troubling existential question. Why does Cerber's Jelly Roll feel accurate?

[Josh Pate]

Because fucking look at him. I know what this dude looks like.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

And it's hard for me to imagine that he doesn't sound like what Serber does here.

[Holly Anderson]

But also the familiarity here has bred a comfort level with us.

[Ryan Nanni]

I hope Jelly Roll turns out to this whole time. Thick Italian accent But there also are Gorlam

[Server]

Bongiorno.

[Spencer Hall]

Like, you get. Like, you get him in the Olive Garden. And he's like, hey, thank you. I need the menu.

[Server]

Okay, cool.

[Spencer Hall]

We're gonna look. And he puts it down. He's like, if my mother had a bicycle, she would be an Alfredo. What is this?

[Ryan Nanni]

It's not exactly the Ship of Theseus, but how many people would have to buy in? And intrinsically, are we going to create

[Holly Anderson]

our own Mandela effect?

[Ryan Nanni]

How many people would have to intrinsically accept within their souls that server's Jelly Roll is Jelly Roll before the supposed real Jelly Roll ceases to be that and just goes back to being whatever his first name is? Which, again, I don't want to know.

[Holly Anderson]

So this is like we're trying to American Gods him.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes. Or maybe in a more accessible way. It's like, can we ant Viv Jelly Roll in such a way? That people say so. Like, Server's Jelly Roll was Jelly Roll all along.

[Josh Pate]

There'll come a point when people see server and they're like, oh, my God, it's Jelly Roll. And they see Jelly Roll and they're like, who's that dirty man?

[Jason Kirk]

Awesome.

[Holly Anderson]

Please give server your money, Server.

[Ryan Nanni]

What if that happens? And then they're like, yes, I love Killer ants. That's Jelly Rolls.

[Josh Pate]

Jelly Rol. Killer Ants.

[Ryan Nanni]

Like the Z, I think.

[Jason Kirk]

Oh, yeah. With the album that comes out on June 23rd.

[Josh Pate]

Everywhere you listen to before Jelly Roll's political opinion.

[Ryan Nanni]

Like, I think, listen, I don't want to speak for you, but if you had to accept the mantle of Jelly Roll, like it was Batman or the Dread Pirate Robin, Green Lantern.

[Spencer Hall]

You just have to. You have to wear the veneers, right? Put on the veneers.

[Josh Pate]

Jelly Roll's dirty Mjolnir has chosen you.

[Ryan Nanni]

Are they. Can you get rings put in your teeth?

[Server]

That's what he said to me.

[Ryan Nanni]

Like, if you became for he who be found.

[Server]

Dirty

[Holly Anderson]

Jelly Roll. That's not what washed in the blood means.

[Server]

It is now. I bumped into Mick Foley. He said, I'm Santa Claus,

[Josh Pate]

but I

[Ryan Nanni]

think you would take that trade.

[Josh Pate]

That man does look like Mick Foley's, like, illegitimate son or something. Like, Mick Foley looks like he. You pulled him out from under a train wreck. But he still looks better than Jelly Roll.

[Server]

He does.

[Ryan Nanni]

I just think it's a worthy goal to sort of say, like, can we convince the world that Cerber was Jelly Roll the whole time?

[Josh Pate]

We can convince a slice of the world, because the world, that's a thing with a lot of meanings and, like, the vast majority of it has never heard of Jelly Roll. He's actually not that famous. He's really not. Look up the numbers. But for, like, there is a percentage of the world and it is in the four or five digits, right. That view Cerber as the canonical Jelly Roll.

[Spencer Hall]

So we can number up.

[Server]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

Jelly Roll's new band totally different than what he usually does. Killer Ants. You should go buy that. Yeah, I'm gonna go on. I'm gonna go to dumbworld and tell them this. I'll go one.

[Ryan Nanni]

Oh, at the very least, I'll go to Threads. I think we could get on Reddit and see a like, hey, have you heard about Jelly Roll's secret project? Killer Ants that he's not talking about.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, on the Philcast Reddit, they talk about Server's Jelly Roll quite a bit. So. But we need to send all of

[Holly Anderson]

those Posters into other. Into like music subreddits. Guys, you're actually team now.

[Josh Pate]

Brigaded.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, we can.

[Josh Pate]

No, we can start. Let's start a separate Jelly Roll subreddit.

[Ryan Nanni]

True Jelly Roll.

[Server]

True Jelly Roll.

[Josh Pate]

To be clear, I ain't starting. I'm asking someone else out there to start this false Jelly Roll.

[Jason Kirk]

Start commenting on all Jelly Roll posts, on social, asking when he's finally going to admit he's in.

[Spencer Hall]

Quit ducking. Quit ducking me.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, I like that we're accidentally endeavoring to create like a Sunni Shia split in Jelly Roll as well.

[Spencer Hall]

Inshallah. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do here.

[Josh Pate]

And then once the so called real Jelly Roll releases his political opinion, then we just. We drop something cooler. We as like Cerber's council of advisors, I guess.

[Ryan Nanni]

Peace be upon management team.

[Server]

You're my entourage. Like that show. Ryan, you're Turtle.

[Ryan Nanni]

I knew it. I knew that was gonna happen.

[Spencer Hall]

Don't pigeonhole him. He's capable of so many other roles.

[Ryan Nanni]

I wanted to be Mark Wahlberg.

[Server]

Fine. You're Sloane. You're too damn pretty.

[Spencer Hall]

He is pretty boy.

[Holly Anderson]

We gotta convert him to a bathist first, if you know what I mean. On account of the smell.

[Ryan Nanni]

Anyway, condolences to False Jelly Roll for his divorce.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

True Jelly Roll remains married. Just say it.

[Josh Pate]

That's. That's the main. The main factor for me is the game. Are they. Are. Are. Have they. Have they done ran off their own bunny, Exo or not? Well. Well, our server has not done so.

[Server]

Mine made me biscuits.

[Spencer Hall]

I don't know. You may be playing checkers, but in

[Server]

this game of chess, I still got my queen.

[Ryan Nanni]

The true jelly emerges.

[Server]

I don't know. I don't even know what that means. Someone wrote it for me.

[Ryan Nanni]

Reject the false Jelly Roll. Cast him out. Return him to Brentwood.

[Josh Pate]

That's why he's got all that written on his face. It's incantations and what have you. Ours is pure of face.

[Server]

That's it. I've never even read a Larry Potter. I'm living the dream. I got a six, four. Somewhere out here on three acres in Brentwood. I got Reacher and his. His rowdy sons fighting my neighbors, tearing up my lawn. Tearing up my lawn. It's awesome. I go to a church. That looks like a theater. Yeah, it was a theater. It was a theater.

[Josh Pate]

Doesn't just look like one.

[Holly Anderson]

Close. It was a Cusar.

[Server]

It was an Ingles.

[Ryan Nanni]

Here's our theater of the mind.

[Server]

I see Morgan Wallen at Whole Foods. And I'm like, brother, what a dream. Seriously, am I dreaming? Where am I? Where am I? I went to the doctor.

[Ryan Nanni]

His cracker barrel is crazy.

[Server]

The words my doctors use are confusing.

[Ryan Nanni]

Careful now. You're veering on becoming a third jelly roll. And I really don't want the tripartite jelly roll. I don't want that to happen.

[Josh Pate]

You're starting way behind serving here.

[Ryan Nanni]

This is.

[Josh Pate]

This is ambitious, man.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah, this is already risky too. We're. We're. We're messing around with creating branches in reality because more than one person is going to try and start a true jelly roll. Underscore real subreddit. We're gonna have a Mississippi state message board situation here too long, and then all of them have to fight. But we need. We need to. We need to be unified from the start.

[Josh Pate]

All right, I want y' all consolidate.

[Holly Anderson]

Yeah, y' all figure it out amongst yourself. Again, we're not doing this, but y' all do it.

[Ryan Nanni]

I wouldn't hate if we rewrite Spencer as cable style jelly roll son from the future set to warn us about the terrible.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, if we're going cable style, we can have. We can have roughly six different jelly rolls. But, like, I think what I'm viewing is jelly roll was multiple guys all along.

[Spencer Hall]

This was bordering on spider. This was bordering on spider version that

[Jason Kirk]

there is going around.

[Spencer Hall]

Well, I thought we were gonna do spider verse and I could end up being jelly roll noir, right?

[Josh Pate]

Oh, you're gonna wear a hat.

[Server]

She walked in and she had legs. Like legs. It was a Tuesday, but I was drinking like it was a Tuesday.

[Holly Anderson]

Even her truck had shorts.

[Server]

Yeah, I knew she was trouble cuz she had a little plastic bubble with dice in it.

[Spencer Hall]

You had to press it to get

[Josh Pate]

her to do anything that's ready to quit drinking. And I said no.

[Server]

I told her she had monster energy and I didn't mean the beverage.

[Holly Anderson]

That's our show.

[Spencer Hall]

That's the whole thing. Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's all the college football and politics news you need for the week night.

[Josh Pate]

I think with the show roughly halfway over, we might as well do podcast business now.

[Jason Kirk]

Keep it quick. Business.

[Spencer Hall]

What's that business? Podcast business. It's a business. It's going to.

[Josh Pate]

There was one dude on Reddit who complained and immediately got stampeded. Thank you to all of you who

[Holly Anderson]

he made Ryan quit.

[Josh Pate]

Who enjoy how long podcast business is and for and, and for. And for putting up with it. To the one no podcast.

[Spencer Hall]

Go short. Podcast business short.

[Josh Pate]

The one person who was unhappy. Thank you for Continuing to listen anyway.

[Spencer Hall]

Money Hole 1. Money Hole 1.

[Josh Pate]

If you would like to continue to listen more, we have a Patreon where there's even more. And guess what, guess what folks, guess what.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's so you.

[Josh Pate]

Hey, my friend.

[Holly Anderson]

Information should be dropping.

[Josh Pate]

My one unhappy Reddit friend. I'm talking to you, my siblings that over on our Patreon there is no podcast business at all. It is the land, the land without business, the post business. It is the land to which the business is leading. Patreon.com shutdown fullcast to escape business. It is the only way out of business prison is to subscribe. We have, we have done multi hour episodes in the past, I don't fucking know number of weeks and we have another, another that we're percolating right now. You know, Cerber has really been carrying this episode. Well that's going to continue, let's put it that way. Patreon.com shutdown fullcast yeah, here we go. All right.

[Spencer Hall]

Money hole2homefieldapparel.com Big money hole.

[Ryan Nanni]

Nice shirts.

[Holly Anderson]

Should we call it?

[Josh Pate]

Okay, Money hole. That's where your money goes.

[Spencer Hall]

Put money in this, put money here.

[Jason Kirk]

Four holes in it. One of them could be.

[Ryan Nanni]

Oh that's true.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah sure. You got, you got hole for each arm, hole for head, hole for torso, but the real hole is in your heart. And the reason it's there is you have not given home field apparel enough money recently in order to receive clothes in exchange for your money.

[Ryan Nanni]

If Hawaii, it's just Hawaii today we're

[Josh Pate]

going to look at Hawaii's gear.

[Ryan Nanni]

Just Hawaii because here's why you're like

[Holly Anderson]

lawyer and now we're getting into homeopathy.

[Ryan Nanni]

I don't, I don't.

[Jason Kirk]

I searched hole on the site.

[Ryan Nanni]

Why'd you do that, man?

[Jason Kirk]

Well, I just thought maybe how to

[Josh Pate]

go this, this is like person who forgot what a shirt is like somebod

[Holly Anderson]

section has to be named that surely.

[Josh Pate]

Blanket with blanket with five holes.

[Server]

It's the art of being. It's the science of being a friend. It's homeopathy.

[Josh Pate]

Blanket with several holes.

[Jason Kirk]

No, if you, if you were going to homefield apparel.com to look for holes, you would find the North Florida Ospreys golf throwback tee or the Herman vintage.

[Josh Pate]

Whatever you're looking for, just put in a word, doc.

[Jason Kirk]

Put in a word and then buy what pops up.

[Ryan Nanni]

I like. It's a good game. I, I guess that like I understand if the full cast is for jelly disorienting it throws you off it makes you feel uncomfortable.

[Josh Pate]

Jelly brought me a Notre Dame hat and an Indy 500 shirt.

[Spencer Hall]

Bird bought me top four Rammer Jammer shirt, UTSA shirt, Dayton Flyers and vintage Dayton. All bangers.

[Josh Pate]

All four just put in divorce. Oh, I typed. I typed divorce into home field apparel.com and it brought me to Ryan Nanny PODC about. About Colorado football. Oh, it's an article. It's an article. I'll take it back. What? Did you use the word divorce in here? Yeah, you did. You said reality and counting had briefly divorced.

[Ryan Nanni]

I hope Whitney didn't just like secretly be like, I'm gonna put this in the URL. Fuck this guy.

[Josh Pate]

You were talking about Colorado. So while you look at Hawaii's page, I'm gonna look at Colorado's page.

[Spencer Hall]

I just searched first member of full cast to die and I got no results. So we're all immortal.

[Josh Pate]

God damn Colorado, Colorado sunset, behind the mountains shirt. I. This. This is all I needed. Rank. Continue with Hawaii.

[Ryan Nanni]

Just like the Hawaii, the Hawaii rainbow gear on home field is just so soothing. Like, it is all. It looks great, it feels great. It is also probably, I think the one thing you can buy on home field that you will never get commentary out in the world. Like, nobody will be like, oh, did you go, oh, are you a fan? Like, people are just like, yeah, Hawaii and rainbows. That shit's cool. Like, if you are worried about, oh, I don't want to just sort of buy a shirt for a school that I didn't go to and I don't root for because then I have to explain it. Just get some Hawaii shit. If you, if you already have all the Hawaii shit, congratulations. You don't have to listen to this episode. You can stop right now. If you don't. You have to search hole. You have to go to and plug in hole. And when that doesn't get you what you're looking for. Hey, listen, you can't spell whole field without whole. It's just math.

[Holly Anderson]

All right, Home field, whole filled folks.

[Josh Pate]

Offer code.

[Holly Anderson]

Holt.

[Josh Pate]

No, that's not an offer code. That's not an offer code.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, you can bleep this, by the way. Show up at the home field warehouse. That's what it says. Seriously, they're gonna have you trussed up like a Christmas ham, baby.

[Ryan Nanni]

All right, face up. That comment is where now I agree that podcast business. This is too long.

[Spencer Hall]

Disagree.

[Jason Kirk]

That one.

[Josh Pate]

One guy, one guy on Reddit was more about girth.

[Spencer Hall]

All sizes available@homefield apparel.com homefield apparel.com There you go.

[Josh Pate]

That. That was your home field apparel ad.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's your home field Read.

[Spencer Hall]

Money Hole 3. Channel 6 Ghost IO. That's.

[Holly Anderson]

It's. There's a different website now. You've been getting it wrong for a month.

[Ryan Nanni]

He's never going to get. He's never going to get.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, I'm not. Hey, Cor. Me.

[Josh Pate]

Please.

[Holly Anderson]

Channel 6 News. Spell it out.

[Ryan Nanni]

Spell it out. Numbers are a lie.

[Spencer Hall]

Channel 6 News. That's right. The newsletter that. Holly Anderson. I write twice a week. We're having a banger summer.

[Holly Anderson]

Say my last name like I'm in trouble.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, just. It's our newsletter. It's awesome. $10 a month for two things a week. We have delivered on the solemn promise for godamn a really long time. 5 years.

[Holly Anderson]

Fix the college football calendar last week. That was generous of us.

[Spencer Hall]

We did. I have another suggestion for the college football calendar coming up. You know, also in addition to. I know I'm going to write about the World cup again, because every single match has been a banger. And in addition to that, we're discovering that Americans are very needy for approval. Absolutely love this development that anytime, anytime, any foreign visitor to the United States in 2026 says anything positive about the United States.

[Server]

We're like, look, look, look.

[Ryan Nanni]

See, we're not too bad.

[Server]

We're not. There's a German who really likes Buc.

[Spencer Hall]

Ees.

[Server]

He really likes Bucky's.

[Ryan Nanni]

Of course he does. The world is coming back together.

[Server]

The world is coming back together.

[Ryan Nanni]

We definitely. The wall of jerky will unite us.

[Holly Anderson]

Posting. We fixed America.

[Spencer Hall]

We did it.

[Server]

We did it, y'.

[Josh Pate]

All.

[Holly Anderson]

Good job, gang.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, but for real, Scotland's awesome.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

Channel six. Subscribe. Thrive. Enjoy.

[Server]

Next.

[Spencer Hall]

Money.

[Josh Pate]

Money hole number four. So, having seen the news that Yum Brands is selling Pizza Hut For $2.7 billion, Pizza Hut has finally liberated itself and is becoming free again. I assume it'll either be bought by literal vultures or bought by a nostalgic millennial and they'll start a museum or something. Anyway, my novel has so much Pizza Hut in it that whenever there is Pizza Hut news, I get tagged about it. And that includes, like, literally anything related to it. So, having said all that, Hell is the World with Tattoo is the name of my novel, and it's not very expensive at this point. It's been out for a number of years now. Still selling, however, might I add. And yeah, it's. It's good. It's got a lot of Pizza Hut in it, in addition to many things Otherwise, what if I just said, it's just about Pizza Hut? It's got.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's.

[Josh Pate]

That's all it is.

[Ryan Nanni]

That is one reading of it.

[Josh Pate]

Honestly, it is a fact that when I sent out requests for, like, blurbs, like, hey, y', all, can you write a sentence on how good this thing is? There were like, three people had to say, like, all right, could you change one of the things that you liked me to not be about pizza?

[Server]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

From the sound of the blurbs, it was starting to. Ryan. I think one of them might have been. I think one of them was because I got like, you. You. You sent in the first one. Like, as a lawyer, you were. You were very, very prompt with your paperwork. And I was like, all right, someone liked the Pizza Hut stuff. Then, like, the fourth one, I was like, oh, shit, I gotta start managing how much Pizza Hut.

[Spencer Hall]

These people possibly over indexed on Pizza Hut reactions.

[Ryan Nanni]

I think it's just that your. I think it's that Hell with Hell's World without you is the first of a budding Pizza Hut. Like, you know, we had the epistolary novel where we're like, oh, okay. This is a new literary format. Yours is just the first of what will hopefully be a multi decade series of Pizza Hut based literature.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I intend to keep the Pizza Hut verse going.

[Ryan Nanni]

Taco Bell is for poetry. Pizza Hut is for literature.

[Josh Pate]

I love that.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, Ryan, Nanny says poetry isn't literature. Pisses off 800 of the gentlest people you'll ever meet, but one of the meanest.

[Ryan Nanni]

He's so mean. Speaking of mean people, I host a show with Stephen Godfrey. It's called Phantom Island. You can listen to it wherever you listen to this podcast. You could subscribe to it at Phantomisland show. Is he always as cranky? Yeah, he's always this cranky. Did he say to me the other day, gosh, I think I've been using social media the wrong. Yeah, buddy. You have? What? Yes, 100%. He was like, oh, I missed. I missed this. I missed it. He was happy about a. I think it was a Spencer Strider story. Braves picture that is this, like, good story about Spencer Strider supporting Braves pride night. And he had totally missed it and basically found about it out about it three days later. He's like, I think I'm using social media wrong. Anyway, if you want to hear me antagonize Stephen Godfrey in the guise of asking questions about sports and having interesting conversations, but it's really just a trick to continue to twist the screws in him and make him feel miserable. Just go over to Phantom island, that's all. And. And last but not least, Jelly Roll Secret project.

[Spencer Hall]

The real Jelly Roll. Yeah.

[Jason Kirk]

Kill Killer. Hey, listen. Killer Ants Full album.

[Holly Anderson]

Jelly Roll Eminem collab.

[Spencer Hall]

Congrats on a full album, by the way. That's awesome.

[Jason Kirk]

Killer Ants full produced by Jelly Roll by Jelly Roll. Written by Jelly Roll. I will take no credit for this

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choreography by Jelly Roll.

[Spencer Hall]

Some people say it's the album that broke up his marriage. Divorce Album. It's going to be a banger. It's going to be a banger.

[Jason Kirk]

Summer Divorce Album.

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The rumors of 2026 here.

[Jason Kirk]

Yeah, it's out in less than a week if you're listening to this. So it's out on June 23rd on all the streaming platforms. And our album release show is next Friday, June 26, at Fair Witness. Fancy Drinks and Winston Sale of North Carolina with Orc Patrol and Darling Hiss. I. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have CDs there.

[Josh Pate]

Did you say Orc Patrol?

[Holly Anderson]

That's what I thought.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, I was gonna say, damn, Spencer would be there for that. Yeah, Spencer's in the Orc Patrol.

[Jason Kirk]

I tried to get the Orc Patrol, couldn't get them, but they were like, hey, you're gonna love these.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I'm sure they're great, too.

[Jason Kirk]

If it makes you feel they're Orc endorsed, they're endorsed. That didn't work. We can cut that out.

[Josh Pate]

Hell, no, I'm not gonna cut it out.

[Jason Kirk]

So. Yeah, and right now, if you're listening to this and you're like, hey, you know. Well, there's three songs that I've heard on the album that have already come out. I would love to hear another one. Where could I do that? Well, if you go to bandcamp.com or killerandstopbandcamp.com, you can listen to Mr. President on that website right now exclusively. It's the only place you can hear that song before the album comes out. So go do that. You can also pre order the album there. If you do it, do it on a Friday, because typically that's Bandcamp Friday and they give us all the money.

[Ryan Nanni]

I'm so then hearing reports. Album of the summer. Can you confirm?

[Jason Kirk]

Yep, yep. Best album since the Beaches, I heard,

[Josh Pate]

is what I heard. He's got the World cup soundtrack on there. The real one?

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah.

[Jason Kirk]

Yep, Real one.

[Spencer Hall]

Whole Space Jam soundtrack, too, except for the archives.

[Jason Kirk]

Whole album's a love letter to Cape Verde.

[Josh Pate]

Damn, you guys you got cannabis on the album?

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Damn.

[Josh Pate]

Where's. That's where he's been this whole time.

[Spencer Hall]

Got Busy Bone. Busy Bone is on the album.

[Jason Kirk]

Tupac's on it. Biggie's on it. Monica, all of A Tribe Called Quest, big boy and Andre 3000 reunite on several tracks.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Wow.

[Jason Kirk]

All the Strokes are on it, but Andre. Only one of the Kings of Leon.

[Josh Pate]

Andre playing.

[Jason Kirk]

We just bullied him the whole time. They suck.

[Josh Pate]

Andre ain't rapping. He's doing something way cooler.

[Jason Kirk]

Oh, yeah, no, to be clear, he's playing flute.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's the George Jones rap that really impressed me. Honestly, like, didn't know he had that in him.

[Jason Kirk]

Yep.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. You think you'd heard George Jones before?

[Jason Kirk]

Haters will say it's AI, but he was just dead. That's all.

[Josh Pate]

But also, you got AI. Allen Iverson also.

[Jason Kirk]

Allen Iverson is on the record. We wanted to. People were like, you got to get AI on this record. It's really big in the market right now. We're like, fine.

[Josh Pate]

Spotify is full of AI music.

[Spencer Hall]

Call up the answer, and you're probably

[Ryan Nanni]

thinking like, hey, call up Jules with a Z. Why did Killer Ants put Shaq Yo Z.

[Josh Pate]

And Killer answer. The Z. It was faded, man. Yeah, sorry, go ahead, Ryan.

[Ryan Nanni]

I was gonna say, why did Killer Ants put Shaq covering a shot. A song on the album? It's because Shaq is the voice of an angel. You'll find out.

[Josh Pate]

Art.

[Jason Kirk]

Art. That's why. You know, support art. That's all we're saying. You know, support art.

[Spencer Hall]

It's much as good.

[Josh Pate]

Good, honest indie music with a billion dollar budget full of.

[Jason Kirk]

That's all we're doing here. Listen, Nicki Minaj needs to spread her wings from time to time.

[Ryan Nanni]

Sure.

[Jason Kirk]

We didn't let her do it on this record. She's not on it.

[Josh Pate]

But she doesn't need to spread her wings and get up out of here.

[Spencer Hall]

This.

[Jason Kirk]

This will inspire her potentially to not suck

[Ryan Nanni]

one day.

[Josh Pate]

Maybe because she'll be like, damn, I could have had George Jones if I just. If it just kept a level head about me.

[Ryan Nanni]

Y', all, that felt like a super tight podcast. I don't know about you.

[Josh Pate]

Listen, man, hey, hey. If you were the one Reddit complainer that was dedicated to you.

[Ryan Nanni]

All right, that's custom content. You can't be mad at that.

[Holly Anderson]

Oh, yes, they can.

[Spencer Hall]

There you go. Nice. Thank you for the extremely tight and efficient podcast business.

[Ryan Nanni]

Quick question. How long did it take for us to go from college? Football is ending, and Nothing will ever be right again. And the whole sport is tarnished and Texas Tech has ruined everything that we love. How, how long did it take to go from that to, oh, no, it'll be fine. Everything's fine. Can you. Do you have the timeline on that by chance?

[Holly Anderson]

Hours?

[Spencer Hall]

17 minutes. 17 minutes.

[Josh Pate]

As long as it took for I guess, Cody Campbell to realize, like, fine, I can't sue everyone on earth and like force a 22 year old to be the centerpiece. Like, at some point, I, I don't know Brendan Sorsby all that well. It's clear. But like the point at which the young man said, okay, this is weird, I'm gonna.

[Ryan Nanni]

This sucks, I'm out.

[Josh Pate]

I'm going to be the supplemental draft, which, like, I realize I probably should have like written down this prediction, but honestly, this always felt like a very real scenario. Like, to me the whole question was like, how far is the crazy rich man gonna push it?

[Ryan Nanni]

I do think it's a little funny that we have gone from like, Brennan Sorsby can't play college football. Like, it is an insult to the integrity of sport. His mere presence suggests that, like, we could, you know, we can't have any confidence in this. What must be done. You can go play in the NFL. That's fine. No fucking kidding. Not a big deal. Nothing to worry about there.

[Holly Anderson]

Now they did say, because we can't get out of this without being completely fucking ridiculous about something. This is a dangerous statement, but I'm going to call this the biggest load of hooey in that Texas Tech statement that they were going to continue to provide Brendan with all the resources that he needed on his healing journey or whatever. I assume this means they're gonna set him up with night night calls with the fellas every evening. Looking forward to hearing how those go.

[Spencer Hall]

I think that's a supportive, persistent, and entertaining and entertaining multiplayer game that they all log on at like 8 or 9 to play.

[Josh Pate]

So there was all along a completely plausible scenario in which the kid wants his $5 million and tech never backs down, and all sorts of things end up in extremely wild places. The way, the way it happens to have turned out is getting the fuck out of this shit feels better than fighting for a possible $5 million.

[Ryan Nanni]

It was a fun week where the sport was ending.

[Josh Pate]

And I mean, it didn't fix it. It revealed even more fractures and fault lines than were known all along. And it revealed the extent to which lots of individual parties are willing to go to war against each other. I mean, it wasn't nothing.

[Ryan Nanni]

It wasn't mostly. I want to put this in the context of this is the same industry where Sports Illustrated put out an infamous cover that was like, Miami needs to shut down the. Like that was the COVID story. Miami can't have football anymore, by the way.

[Spencer Hall]

I think, I think that cover story gets a lot of bad pr, Ryan. And frankly, I think Sports Illustrated could have done it every week for the. They could have just periodically been like, miami football's a bad idea.

[Ryan Nanni]

Miami loses to mtsu and they just

[Spencer Hall]

rerun no Miami Classic A Miami in an off season week. Miami in a random April should be like this abomination should probably be exterminated anymore, I hear. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Pate]

I guess my thing is like, if there were like wildly overreacting takes, I genuinely do not know what they were because like whoever said it is someone I don't pay attention to.

[Ryan Nanni]

I think we are. I think it's interesting that college football, more than most sports is prone to chicken littleing and has been for decades at this point in a way that I don't fully grasp because in some ways I kind of feel like the fact that college football has persisted and has only gotten more popular despite everything being the end of the world and everything being like this is going to kill this and this will be like, whether you like it or not is a separate topic. But if there's one thing college football has shown over the last, let's say 50 years, the is tenacious. It does not want to die, even if you think that it should sometimes.

[Josh Pate]

So I hold that opinion almost every time. And like I've written that many, many times that like the over, you know, like the college football is dead, blah, blah, is something that people have been saying for over a century. This was a red line that felt like a red line and then the red line was removed. So like, I don't, I don't think that the potential massive confident but I have. Everything wasn't on the table.

[Ryan Nanni]

I think the removal is proof of. Is proof of what I'm saying though. Like eventually college football, like college football eventually figures out like, well no, this is, this is what I appreciate about the Big 12's complaint is they were pretty upfront. They were like, this is bad for business and we are a business. And as a result we are allowed to tell Texas Tech, hey, fuck you, you agreed to these rules and that are about our business and you are fucking things up for us. And, and I think like with that perspective in mind, I'm like, well, yeah, at Some point somebody was going to say whether it was the conferences, the television network, the college football playoffs. Somebody was going to come along and say like, I don't even necessarily care about the NCAA regulations of this. I just think this is bad for the bottom line. And that's the part where I'm like, I feel like there was shockingly little faith put into that. Like, or rather it was framed as like, someone must do the right thing. I don't think the Big 12 did the right thing. I think the Big 12 did the smart thing. And we can recognize that sometimes those overlap and sometimes they don't. But I don't think we have to sort of say like, it, like, it makes more sense to me because it wasn't like an act of courage. It was just like, man, this sucks and nobody wants to see it just from a, just from a viewer.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, I completely agree that the system policing itself was not about anyone caring about the right thing. It was protecting everybody's wallets. I completely agree about that. At the same time, rich people often do not care about what's best for each other's wallets, their own wallets. Like, rich people are stupid. So like, there was never ever any guarantee that Cody Campbell was going to back down. Like, no matter how many smart and wise and self interested in any adjective therein institution stood against him, this man could have kept it going if the kid had been willing. And again, I'm, I'm, I'm. There's a bit of speculation there on my part, but for me it was, you know, after things we've witnessed in the world at large, and college football is everything and everything is college football. Cody Gamble being Elon Musk of sports, that never ever felt like a impossible scenario to me.

[Spencer Hall]

I appreciate Brendan Sorsby's honesty and knowing that he's not a Joan of Arc. The man to lead us.

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Right?

[Spencer Hall]

You gotta know.

[Josh Pate]

Nope.

[Spencer Hall]

You gotta know whether you're that dude or not, right? There were people who completely went off the deep end on this and they're generally people that, you know, would go off the deep end about any of these stories because they think the NCAA is still real well.

[Josh Pate]

So like, what was an example of

[Spencer Hall]

that type of, of stuff? I'm going to find my favorite example of a mainstream reaction to this, by the way, which is, I was getting to that. I have to use it as a bridge. Mack Engel of the four of the Four Worth Star Telegram had my favorite take on it, which. Hey man, let's just go ahead and put it all out there on Front Street. Brandon Sorsby is leaving Texas Tech, which never grasped. He wasn't worth it.

[Josh Pate]

That's true, though. That's not over.

[Server]

Yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm gonna do the Stephen A.

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But she didn't have to say it like that.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, you gonna say it. Say it.

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Sure.

[Spencer Hall]

Say it with your whole chest.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's. That's interesting because it pre. It. It relies on assumption that there is some player who would be.

[Josh Pate]

That's what I said. I was talking to my. My. One of my uncles. It was a Texas Tech grad. And he's like this. This is very embarrassing. And you know, doesn't this, you know, this kid probably isn't worth it. And I was like, man, I don't know if Cam Newton would be worth all this.

[Ryan Nanni]

Right, right.

[Spencer Hall]

He would. He would. He would 100% go ahead.

[Josh Pate]

Like. Like as far. Worth all this in the sense of playing it out as far as it could possibly go.

[Ryan Nanni]

In some ways that it's.

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Robert, I'm irrationally committed to this.

[Josh Pate]

Okay.

[Ryan Nanni]

Okay.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, listen, we would actually.

[Josh Pate]

Texas Tech ending up as UConn on the moon. Is Cam Newton Pete worth all that? You know, honestly, Kind of.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Listen, I'm riding that train. That is why I'm punching that ticket. Yes. Cam Newton, like, hey, we're actually going to have to overturn the constitutional order of the United States for this. And I was like, I've seen people do it for less and worse, honestly,

[Josh Pate]

now that I really think about it. If your team could have 2010, Cam Newton and that is your final football season, how many schools take that deal? Because it's. I mean, it's the far majority of most.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes. Like, especially because, you know, based on that Auburn roster that it's not like, oh, well, if you don't have six other. It's like, now you're gonna go pretty far.

[Josh Pate]

Just like we did this as a thought experiment like seven or eight years ago that like almost any Power 4 team, you had Cam Newton in that season and they would have had a real shot based on the quality of Auburn's roster anyway. So, like.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

If you're Tech. Yeah. You do all this for Cam Newton and then you just fold the program.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, fold it. Fold it for him. You know, like what. What did. These are again? What did Herb street have to say about Sworesby?

[Josh Pate]

I guarantee you that's probably.

[Spencer Hall]

I guarantee you I will. 1. It's sickening.

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No, there we go. There we go.

[Spencer Hall]

We found one. I got one. It's sickening. Kirk Herb street slams court. Kirk, Herb street legal correspondent coming in. Definitely understanding all of the angles of the situation. It's sickening, brother. That's sickening.

[Josh Pate]

What else was there?

[Spencer Hall]

That's so we got. We got Herb Street. Okay, man.

[Josh Pate]

What else did he say?

[Spencer Hall]

Oh, here we go. Here we go. I can get you this. This is great. Okay. This is a video which I'm not gonna watch. I've seen. Here we go. It's sickening that if you don't hear what you like, you can just go to your local judge and find the answer that you want. Herb street said.

[Server]

I don't know.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm sorry. This. This voice is too. Hold on a second.

[Server]

I don't know where this ends. If this is where we are right now, you could do whatever the hell you want to do in this sport.

[Spencer Hall]

I'm sorry. It's not dumb.

[Server]

And if anybody says anything, just find a local judge to tell you the answer you want to get.

[Josh Pate]

See, this sounds cute, cuz. You sound like you're doing Herp street stock.

[Spencer Hall]

I sound like Patrick Starr.

[Jason Kirk]

Yeah,

[Spencer Hall]

yeah. Like not understanding how courts work. Just saying. It's sickening, brother. We need to work on a definition of sickening here. 100%. This is also saying this should have never happened. Brendan Sourceby was gambling on sports. He should have. The thing. The thing that should have happened, happened. He's going in the supplemental draft.

[Server]

Right.

[Spencer Hall]

He's now the NFL's problem. I would also so point out, as an observation, one reason we were like, oh, the NFL will take care of it, is because I think we all assume the NFL has Delta Force level goons governing all of this that we'll never hear about and that have already tapped every single piece and device that Brandon Sorsby has on his person to determine whether he's gambling or not.

[Josh Pate]

Well, yeah, like, if you gamble and get caught in the NFL, you're just gone. And that's it.

[Spencer Hall]

You're just gone. Yeah, we don't. We don't have this discussion.

[Josh Pate]

You just don't work there anymore.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, but that's it. You want.

[Ryan Nanni]

I had fun. I thought it was a fun week. Yeah. Wondering. Wondering if the world was ending in college football.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. And like it, like, you know, it's okay to not know what'll happen and then. Sure. Once it happens, be entertained by both the unknowing and the knowing.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yes. Mostly I think, like, when these things happen, it's important to remember the wisdom of John Boyce. It will be interesting to see what happens next. That's it. That's the only real rational response most of the time. It will be interesting to see what happens next. And you know what? It was interesting. It's very interesting that Ken Paxton accidentally backed Texas Tech into a legal corner, which forced everybody to fucking walk away. That's interesting.

[Josh Pate]

This dude who's out here, like, you're not a Texan if you know what the word vegan means, is out here saying, like, I think Texas Tech should be allowed to have its own crime ring that no one, no other Texas football program, including the vastly more popular ones, are able to have.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's interesting that, like, the attorneys general of Oklahoma and Kansas were both like, ooh, an easy layup.

[Josh Pate]

Everybody's dunking on Ken Paxton.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's interesting. It's interesting that the. Here's what will be most interesting about it. Now the NFL gets to do its thing where it's like, oh, well, this is. We have no knowledge. We are the first to learn of this, man.

[Josh Pate]

We're beginning to conduct an independent investigation that has already been ruled on. The young man has already said, yeah, I was. I was betting on Botswanan table tennis and my own team.

[Ryan Nanni]

Yep. And everybody just gets to be mad.

[Spencer Hall]

Now I got another one. My favorite German tank pilot, Josh Pate, said that.

[Ryan Nanni]

I. I'm too big to fit in the tank. Don't.

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On top of the tank.

[Ryan Nanni]

Get him. You know what?

[Josh Pate]

To fit in the tank.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's fucked up how Indiana Jones killed him with that propeller.

[Josh Pate]

Wait, is he the same. Is he the same dude who stares at Pat McAfee or they both just have the same, like, different, like, skull?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

Different dude. But yeah, they both have a skull measured with calipers.

[Josh Pate]

Dear Reddit, I'm aware it's a different dude.

[Spencer Hall]

Jason Kirk, so called expert, confusing white, full face blindness. So, yeah, Josh. Josh Pate said that this was. Hi. Josh said that. I'm sorry, Guten talk. Ted said that this was. That this decision has. This whole case has compromised the NCAA forever.

[Josh Pate]

Please, if I ever have a problem, I think so. Like, it has. It is for much further compromised. The already extremely compromised is kind of how I would write. Like, this was already like 70% compromised. Now it's like 85% compromised. You know what I mean?

[Spencer Hall]

How compromised do we.

[Server]

Come on.

[Josh Pate]

It's like, it's like, it's like there's a. There's a sinkhole beneath your house and you have two rooms left, and now you have one room left. So, like, to an extent. It did further compromise it.

[Spencer Hall]

The Supreme Court. The Supreme Court that believes that a mailbox has more rights than you, right. Because it's property has already invited people openly to destroy this organization and its unsustainable business model that could not work anywhere else. Making nothing up there. And this is what did it. That, that's.

[Holly Anderson]

That.

[Spencer Hall]

This is the thing that did it, brother. Yeah, that's. That's amazing, yo. That's amazing.

[Ryan Nanni]

What, what the Sourcebee thing is good for, and I realize this too late, is that if you are just pissed, if you are like frustrated with the transfer portal or nil or team switching conferences, like, and that's cool, like I don't have any judgment if you're. If you find the state of college football to be unpleasant for a variety of reasons. But it just became like it focused all that energy. I think everybody just took out all their big feelings on what college football is now. On this highly. Like, I think what got lost is that this is such a highly specific set of circumstances. Most of the time when athletes bet at all or bet on their own team, it doesn't take us four fucking years to find out. Like everything about this really feels kind of one of one and not necessarily like, ah, the tsunami looms. Here it comes. Dozens of dozens of gambling, Texas Tech quarterback, stealing your children, forcing them to register for fat dual accounts.

[Spencer Hall]

Also, there's two other things I love in this one. A load bearing piece of this entire story is, well, we trust the University of Cincinnati's oversight. That's what we really trust. Their background, checking on prospects. We thought, you know, hey, if he played there, surely we wouldn't have to look too carefully or we already knew it's one or the other. The other thing is this, that in this day and age, everything still comes down to the most coach. Like moron coach is never wrong, right? Like big dumb coach is never wrong, right? Hey, what's this team need? Stay me quarterback. We need a guy. You can do everything, brother. You can get, you can get your AI, you can get your, your HD TVs right? You can, you can get your, your TI's and your PIs, right? All the initials, you bring them. Okay, I only need two. And that's Q and B. That's it. Still need a qb. That's at the end of all of this. I love that there's a piece of basic moron football knowledge that is absolutely true that Texas Tech has gotten to the end of all of this and they're like, well, still need a QB. Got the AGs of two different states involved. Got the Big 12 to actually come together as a single entity, organized and decisive.

[Ryan Nanni]

Got Michigan to cancel a volleyball game.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like, it's. It. That honestly, is, for now, the only concrete ramification is this volleyball game.

[Ryan Nanni]

Mm.

[Josh Pate]

Right. Like. Like, like revealed cannibalistic tendencies in some places.

[Spencer Hall]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

But for now, whatever day that volleyball game was going to be on is going to be the.

[Ryan Nanni]

The darkest day in Texas Tech history.

[Josh Pate]

That is the day that we will remember all of this.

[Ryan Nanni]

Can I ask a provocative question to the rest of you?

[Josh Pate]

Like, like erotic or like, like, yes,

[Ryan Nanni]

depending on your perspective, it may be.

[Josh Pate]

Okay.

[Jason Kirk]

Yes, I do, Ryan.

[Ryan Nanni]

All right. So Texas Tech, by all accounts, it appears that Big 12 gets an opportunity to shake its litigation hammer. Texas Tech backs down by extension. Sourceby says this going to the supplemental draft, that seems to be what happened here. Nobody's actually going to say word for word that's what happened. But that seems to be the best guess we've talked. We've at least alluded to this on previous episodes, that LSU was one of the other schools bidding for Brendan Swordsby. And so my simple question is this. Do you think LSU would have quit?

[Josh Pate]

Hmm.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. You do? I do, yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

Do you think they would have quit earlier, same time, or later?

[Spencer Hall]

I think they would have quit earlier. And Interesting. And I think there's a reason I don't think LSU's subsequent power structure is as organized as that. That you saw in play here. Like, it's wild to see. It's wild to see the state AG jump in on a case. Right.

[Ryan Nanni]

But if anything, you would think that would be more likely with lsu, because there is no power program in the state that the. That anybody in state government has to

[Josh Pate]

account for, or what I could see with LSU is the temperature would have not have gone through the roof because you wouldn't have the Baron of Lubbock out here calling out every institution in sight and like, and, and. And sending, you know, like, that was what caused the. The, like, whole second wave of panic. You wouldn't have that with lsu, because no one person speaks for anything other than themselves.

[Ryan Nanni]

You are putting a lot of faith in Lane Kiffin staying quiet.

[Josh Pate]

Well, Lane Kiffin isn't as powerful as Cody Campbell, is it? Texas Tech?

[Ryan Nanni]

That's probably. Yeah, you're right.

[Spencer Hall]

There's also one person would jump in here who I guarantee would make everything worse, embarrassing himself and get him to fold, to fold up the tables real early, and that's Jeff Landry. That's Jeff Landry. Every time Jeff Landry stumbles into a situation, he makes it worse. And everyone's like, oh, shut up, Jeff.

[Josh Pate]

Just, like, impacts.

[Ryan Nanni]

I. I think you're right. And it gives that. Like, I'm not. Plenty of people are giving Texas Tech all the grief in the world about this, and I'm not necessarily looking to add to that, but I think if you're just looking and trying to assess, like, how did I do? How did my decisions go? How did I win or lose the court of public opinion? If the conclusion is, hey, man, LSU wouldn't have done this wild shit, you probably fucked up. You probably fucked up. If the conclusion is LSU would have been more sober and cautious than you would. Than you were in this case, LSU would have read the room better than you did. Texas Tech. You up pretty bad.

[Josh Pate]

Like, yeah, Cody Campbell, what did you gain from this experience? What has improved about your life in your world?

[Spencer Hall]

An extra lunch with Ted Cruz. Two extra lunches with Ted Cruz.

[Josh Pate]

And also all the table and repeat Cody Campbell's talking points on a 25 minute video that TCU responded to with. And I ain't reading all that. What did y'.

[Holly Anderson]

All.

[Josh Pate]

What did y'.

[Holly Anderson]

All.

[Josh Pate]

What did y' all really gain? Like, yeah, this dude's money. But like. Like, is it feeling worth it? All this dude's money?

[Spencer Hall]

I'll tell you, another reason that LSU would have folded early is this. They're better at this. They are. They're better at crime.

[Ryan Nanni]

Okay, Right.

[Spencer Hall]

They're better at crime and being sneaky and they would prefer to move.

[Ryan Nanni]

Oh, no, I. I will agree with this. LSU would not have done the. All right, let's just cop to it and put you at LSU would have been like, shut the upper.

[Server]

Shut the.

[Ryan Nanni]

Don't you say shit about this. Okay?

[Spencer Hall]

The rumors we heard would have been far more numerous. Right? Like, officially, they would have been like, ah, you know, we're conducting a review and we're not gonna do anything. Meanwhile, I would have three people from inside the governor's office texting me, being like, I'm just gonna put the phone on the table and you can listen. Like, that's not an exaggeration.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, you'd have feuds and stuff.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, yeah, you'd have feuds and people who are like, you want to see a show?

[Josh Pate]

You have feuds and leaks and whistleblowers, and you have all the usual stuff. Instead, Texas Tech, you just got like, well, one dude bought the university, so

[Ryan Nanni]

whatever he thinks, like, for a While there, Ka was. Was going to get charged for gambling illegally while he was a member of the LC football team, including gambling on lsu. And all those charges went away. That is not. And now he. He's written about it for the players tribute and all that. Like. Yeah, I think. I think LSU would have successfully been like, nope, we're not. What do you mean? We're taking it.

[Josh Pate]

What do you mean?

[Ryan Nanni]

Injunction. That's the dumbest shit I heard.

[Spencer Hall]

I can. I can hear, by the way, that you want to do Coacho, and I'm gonna go ahead and say, no, I'm not gonna do it that spiritually. I think LSU will talk like kocho as. Like, if they had a. If they had a deku tree.

[Josh Pate]

Deku with various E's and U's and X's.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Nanni]

How does a tree shirtless. This doesn't. How do I understand. This tree is not wearing a shirt.

[Spencer Hall]

This tree, though. This tree, though not having a job or being capable of having one as a tree, is nonetheless skipping work to be here.

[Josh Pate]

When you go into the tree's mouth, into the dungeon, it's like seasoning you.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah. So if LSU had a dekkoo tree, it would speak with the voice of Coach O. And that's okay. That's like. Like Alabama will forever, like, talk like two people. They will talk like either Bear Bryant or they will talk like. Like Drewski in the video where he says he doesn't give a piss about the tie. Those are the. Those are the communal voices.

[Josh Pate]

Can we also assign Coacho the voice work for Navi?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Hey, listen, shut your ass up.

[Ryan Nanni]

I do think my favorite lasting ramification from this reaction from this whole saga is the segment of Texas Tech fans and supporters who are like, the second we can, we're getting out of the Big 12. These guys. We're. The second we're getting invited.

[Josh Pate]

ACC don't want you, man. Where the you going to go?

[Spencer Hall]

Not happening.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's also good.

[Josh Pate]

Pac12 will take you.

[Ryan Nanni]

It's also good because it suggests that before this, Texas Tech would have been like. No. Loyal to the.

[Josh Pate]

Our team. Our team full of people who met eight minutes ago.

[Ryan Nanni]

Thank you.

[Josh Pate]

We are loyal to this conference full of teams that met eight minutes ago.

[Ryan Nanni]

Thank you. But thank. No, thank you, sec. It's too important to us to play ucf

[Josh Pate]

like, dog, literally. Where the fuck would they go? I mean, you can swap spots with Memphis if you want.

[Ryan Nanni]

You could

[Josh Pate]

if you really want.

[Spencer Hall]

I think they should. I think they should just go to the PAC12 and just go undefeated every year.

[Josh Pate]

Your new rivals, Texas State, that's. You could beat that state, that's for sure.

[Spencer Hall]

I hope you can beat Texas State, because if you can't, Cody Campbell's gonna be down there with, oh, we've forgotten the most important part. And I mean, God, we could bring it on home with this. Now Texas Tech is going to go in and rewrite the definition of tampering. That's what they're going to do. They're going to come. They're going to come by your quarterback, Darian Mensah.

[Jason Kirk]

Schools.

[Spencer Hall]

Schools hasn't started.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I mean, portal ain't open. Well, guess we're going to find a judge who says it is.

[Spencer Hall]

Mm, yeah, sorry. Find. Look, portal ain't open. I think that's a restriction. Honestly, like, if you wanted to know seriously how it would work, the portal would be a restriction on, like, labor movement and fair pay, wouldn't it be?

[Ryan Nanni]

Listen, the point. It's a transfer portal. It's not a quitting portal.

[Josh Pate]

It's not a stay put portal. You know, Would Arch do it for 20? Arch.

[Ryan Nanni]

Would arch.

[Josh Pate]

Would Arch do it for a hundred million dollars?

[Ryan Nanni]

Yeah, Arch's family would not.

[Josh Pate]

Would Arch do it for $50 million? You doubt everybody's got a price. I don't want it.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, I don't want you to doubt how committed Cody Campbell is to all this, because do you know the name of his companies, like, the name of most of his companies is Double Eagle. Why is it named Double Eagle? That is the mascot of his high school.

[Ryan Nanni]

Hey, you know what? Fuck it. Let's get Cody Campbell out there. I know he didn't play quarterback, but start playing it.

[Server]

He played.

[Spencer Hall]

He played.

[Josh Pate]

He played Cody Campbell with, like, a bionic. Bionic limbs and stuff. He can afford.

[Ryan Nanni]

Show me Iron Man.

[Josh Pate]

Cody Campbell.

[Ryan Nanni]

That's right.

[Spencer Hall]

This is a man. So, like you. You doubt there's no bit going here.

[Holly Anderson]

Right.

[Spencer Hall]

We've never told a joke. Cody Campbell so committed to this shit that when Houston and Texas and Texas Tech were scheduled to play on a Friday, he objected on the basis of that's the high school night, like, for real. So. So what we're saying is that we're going to get two guests on the show and they're coming up. We're just gonna. We're gonna book them. Okay. 1. We're gonna have jelly roll on here.

[Josh Pate]

We have.

[Spencer Hall]

We already have the imposter.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, okay.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, yeah. And first of all, we're gonna say why you've been ducking Us.

[Server]

That's not Sting. That's imposter Jelly Rolls in the Rafters.

[Spencer Hall]

And that's where he lives. And it's the wall, brother.

[Ryan Nanni]

And I hate spiders up here.

[Spencer Hall]

And second. Second, he's got a bat like the animal.

[Josh Pate]

Second. We're have Cody Campbell.

[Spencer Hall]

We have Cody Campbell. Let's, like, I like, seriously, if we could get Cody Campbell in this podcast and just straight up, ask him, dog, what the are you doing?

[Server]

We'll be the only show that.

[Josh Pate]

Why don't you do all that, man?

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, like, that's crazy. You have so much money. We could just tell Cody Campbell things

[Server]

we would do if we had.

[Spencer Hall]

I'd have a clean pool for sure.

[Josh Pate]

Like, all this you could do with your money. And you were trying to get kicked to the American Conference.

[Spencer Hall]

Yeah, like, what is up, dude?

[Ryan Nanni]

This is the guy who was like, huh? Heat's really turning up. Where can I go to win people over? The Dan Dacas show. That's the answer.

[Spencer Hall]

You want to. You want to win people over?

[Ryan Nanni]

I mean, shit, that showed me Cody Campbell would probably come on full cast. Goddamn.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, we got to be bigger than that shit.

[Ryan Nanni]

I'm gonna go on the fifth biggest show on Outkick, and that's what I'm gonna win. The hearts. And you'll see.

[Spencer Hall]

You want a lot more hearts than minds, because we're gonna be mean to you people. Be like, that poor man.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Spencer Hall]

Come on, come on.

[Josh Pate]

We'll get you, like, strategy, sympathy, sympathy votes. All right, that's enough.

[Spencer Hall]

That's enough. Legally, first of all.

[Josh Pate]

All right, let him up.

[Spencer Hall]

Let him up. Yeah. Can't believe how mean they were to that billionaire.

[Josh Pate]

I can't believe Cody Campbell withstood 90 minutes in the hot box.

[Spencer Hall]

Jump. Jump.

[Ryan Nanni]

We'll bring back the they made him do podcast business. It was 40 minutes long, and they made him do it.

[Server]

I own a lot of companies. It's not fair.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, we got, like, after. After we get through killer rants, we're like, all right, Cody, pitch your shit. You got 30 seconds. Tell us what the fuck Double Eagle does. Hurry up.

[Spencer Hall]

Like, Jelly Roll was so nasty to

[Josh Pate]

me, and it was the real one, too. The fake one is nice.

[Ryan Nanni]

Mama said he couldn't hurt me, but he did.

[Josh Pate]

He didn't even have any tattoos. I had no way to target him.