Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: “Chasing Evil and Good Vibes with Goldie Hawn & John Edward – Part 2”

Release Date: September 18, 2025

Episode Overview

This intimate episode reunites hosts Kate and Oliver Hudson with their mother, Goldie Hawn, and renowned psychic medium John Edward. Continuing a conversation from Part 1, the group explores death, legacy, the human mind, and the healing (and sometimes skeptical) power of mediumship. The discussion also delves into John’s personal and professional journey, his new book Chasing Evil, and the emotional complexities of family—making for a heartfelt, insightful, and occasionally hilarious episode.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Facing Death and Legacy

[04:09] – 09:24

• Kate Hudson kicks off by asking John Edward if he fears death; he replies with a confident “Not at all. No.”
• John discusses open conversations about mortality with his children, often humorously beginning with “in case I get abducted by aliens,” which becomes an effective way to initiate deep talks.
  • “If you're listening to this and you come from a family that's really not ooey gooey and emotional and connected... Steal the phrase, say 'in case I get abducted by aliens,' and then say the thing that you want to say to the person.” — John Edward [05:24]
• The group unpacks how parents, children, and partners process the concept of loss.
• Goldie Hawn: Shares her nightly ritual inviting her “guides” and late family members for comfort before sleep, but admits “I ask myself the question, am I conjuring this up or am I really calling in my guides? And I think that's something that I will never get confirmation on.” [08:17]
• John likens reaching out to guides to sending a text: “Your intention of sending that text still exists, whether they've seen it or not.” [09:03]

The Passion and Ethics of Mediumship

[09:24] – 13:25

• John discusses his ethos: “That passion is to leave people better than I find them... I have a huge feeling of, like, ethics that come with, like, wanting to share and teach.” [09:48]
• He explains why he doesn’t see his public work as entertainment but as education and healing.
• Shares a formative moment with a mentor who told him “People can't pay you for what you do, but they can pay you for your time. And they have to, this way they take it seriously.” [10:53]

Developing Psychic Skills (“Psychic Fair” and Finding Teachers)

[13:25] – 15:10

• John shares his formative years at psychic fairs, likening them to speed dating for psychics, leading to much laughter and curiosity from the hosts.
• Kate and Goldie express interest in psychic development; John recommends learning from specialized teachers (tarot, astrology, numerology, meditation), emphasizing the need to trust intentions over credentials.
  • “I always say, look at the person’s intention... I’m not a big fan of certifications... Not for me.” — John Edward [13:40]
• He tells a touching story: when he was young, his connection to piano (“the keys talk to me”) was replaced by tarot (“I used to play piano...the piano stopped talking, but the cards didn’t.”) [14:25]
• He describes tarot cards as his “Dumbo’s feather”—a crutch he needed less over time. [15:06]

Boundaries, Visitations, and the Practice of Mediumship

[15:10] – 16:23

• John stresses the importance of boundaries and ethical conduct: “As a professional, you always have to kind of turn it off. You can't just be on. It's not healthy...ambush readings, I’m not ok with.” [15:25]
• Explains he only receives “visitations” (spirit messages) for personal reasons, not unsolicited for clients, and relates anecdotes where messages come at inconvenient times (“Sometimes they will wake me up...they won’t let me go back to sleep unless I write it down.”) [16:04]

Skepticism Around “Psychics” and Money

[20:19] – 22:43

• Kate probes the proliferation of storefront psychics in affluent neighborhoods, half-jokingly suggesting money laundering. The group laughs, but John admits some “psychic” practices prey on vulnerable people (“they tell them they have a curse and have to pay thousands to remove it”), urging caution.
• He distinguishes real information from emotional manipulation: “Do you want them to be emotional, animated and crying...or do you want them to be like a doctor, surgical, precise, and giving you insights?” [21:51]
• John warns against the performative side of mediumship, especially in today's attention economy.

“Chasing Evil”: John’s New Book and Personal Insights

[22:43] – 31:30

• John shares the background and deeply personal journey behind his new book Chasing Evil, which combines supernatural and true crime genres:
  • The project began after supporting a retired FBI agent (“Bob”) who was never publicly credited for finding a missing child, prompting John to encourage Bob to share his story.
  • John reflects on unresolved “daddy issues” that surfaced while writing, noting the book was a catalyst for personal healing:
    • “Who knew that this cathartic thing [would] happen from, you know, an FBI guy trying to come expose me as a fraud.” [26:47]
    • “It turned out to be a pretty transformative thing for me...” [25:19]
• Goldie observes the universal struggle to process emotional wounds and the importance of non-traditional healing:
  • “Sometimes you need these catalysts to get there...Emotions are so important and powerful.” [30:22]
• John encourages listeners to be “students of the universe” and seek out their own healing modalities—not necessarily through mediumship. Suggests exploring astrology for insight into emotional blockages.
• Kate and Goldie share their own recurring emotional patterns and lifelong self-doubt, with Goldie revealing childhood struggles with a learning disability and how love and kindness persisted (“I made sure that there was love in the room.”) [32:02]

The Book as a Journey and Future Projects

[37:01] – 37:39

• Kate asks if the book reads like true crime; John promises “it's a roller coaster. You come on the journey with us on these cases...on both journeys. You come on the transformational journey, and you come on the criminal journey.” [37:09]
• Gia and the group brainstorm spin-off podcast ideas.

Goldie’s Ghost Story & John’s Perspective

[37:53] – 42:03

• Goldie recounts unexplained activity in her house—appliances acting up, a mysterious woman, and a medium who said a young man (a Sharon Tate victim) had “not crossed over” and was attached to her.
• John, respectfully skeptical, says he hasn’t experienced “stuck” spirits and stresses the importance of considering alternate explanations—such as changes in electromagnetic energy during adolescence causing “hauntings”. [41:16]

An On-the-Spot “Reading” and Comic Relief

[42:17] – 43:48

• In a classic John Edward moment, he picks up on a conversation about Kate’s feet, which she and Goldie joke about, tying it to a mocking idea for a feet-themed OnlyFans account, causing laughter. [43:12]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• John Edward: “That passion is to leave people better than I find them.” [09:48]
• Goldie Hawn: “I just love life so much. I don't want to die.” [07:02]
• John Edward: “You really can't put a price on the connection, but you can put a price on the time.” [10:53]
• Kate Hudson: “We always think that traditionally you go to therapy, but I didn't think I needed therapy. It was a non traditional thing.” [27:34]
• Goldie Hawn: “Sometimes you need these catalysts to get there...Emotions are so important and powerful.” [30:22]

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 04:09 | John Edward explains his and family's views on death, using humor as a gateway for deep talks (“abducted by aliens") | | 08:08 | Goldie shares her nightly routine calling in guides/details importance of comfort and uncertainty in spiritual experience | | 09:48 | John explains why his work is a passion and issues around ethics in mediumship | | 13:25 | Story of psychic fairs, Kate’s curiosity about learning psychic skills | | 15:25 | John on the necessity of “turning it off” and boundaries in his work | | 21:51 | Warning against scam psychics; real information vs. emotional showmanship | | 22:54 | John introduces the origins and themes of his book “Chasing Evil” | | 26:47 | Personal transformation & healing through the book’s writing | | 30:22 | Goldie on emotional healing and cycling family patterns | | 32:02 | Goldie recalls struggles with undiagnosed learning disabilities, always signing “Love, Goldie” | | 37:09 | John describes the book as a “roller coaster,” blending true crime and transformation | | 37:53 | Goldie’s ghost story and John’s perspective on hauntings | | 42:17 | John picks up on the “feet” conversation, leading to jokes about OnlyFans |

Tone & Atmosphere

The conversation is deeply personal, blending humor, warmth, and empathy. Kate and Oliver’s sibling banter is ever-present, Goldie is both nurturing and candid, and John is thoughtful and occasionally playful. The episode balances serious talk about death, healing, and ethics with tangents and laughter—making it both moving and accessible.

Summary

This episode of Sibling Revelry artfully weaves together the themes of mortality, legacy, emotional healing, and family bonds through the lens of psychic phenomena. John Edward’s candor and the Hudson family’s openness foster a heartfelt yet entertaining exploration of grief, personal growth, and the mysteries that bind us all. Listeners will come away with new perspectives on life’s biggest questions, encouragement to seek their own healing, and perhaps a newfound urge to strike up honest conversations—alien abduction optional.

Book featured:

Chasing Evil: Shocking Crime, Supernatural Forces, and an FBI Agent's Search for Hope and Justice by John Edward

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