Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson

Episode: Revel In It: A Different Diagnostic
Date: October 22, 2025
Guest: Anthony William ("Medical Medium")

Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Revelry explores alternative approaches to health and chronic illness with Anthony William, best known as the "Medical Medium." Anthony returns to the pod with hosts Oliver and (briefly) Kate Hudson to share the origins of his unique health insights—rooted in what he describes as guidance from the “Spirit of Compassion”—and discuss his controversial but influential protocols. The conversation balances a deep dive into Anthony’s childhood experiences and philosophical outlook with practical discussion about the wellness industry, skepticism, and the roots of the “Medical Medium” movement.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Anthony William’s Childhood and The “Spirit of Compassion”

• Origins of Anthony’s Abilities
  • At age four, Anthony began hearing an external, authoritative voice, which he later identified as the "Spirit of Compassion."
  • The voice would alert him to medical issues in others before formal diagnoses, often bewildering teachers and his parents.
  • Quote: "With me, it was age 4. I woke up one morning, and I heard a voice, and it wasn't mine... The voice never went away. It just stayed there." [08:39, Anthony William]
• Family Context
  • Anthony had two siblings and noted that his family, especially parents, supported him as his “readings” proved shockingly accurate.
  • His parents' skepticism faded after repeated, dramatic confirmations of his health insights.
  • Quote: "My parents were really supportive because it was just... it was what it was. You couldn’t get away from it." [13:13, Anthony William]
• Struggles of Carrying the Gift
  • The ever-present voice often made childhood and teenage years difficult, interfering with social life and personal ambitions.
  • He spent much time in solitude, often in cemeteries (as guided by the voice), developing and “training” his gift.
  • Quote: "When you hear this voice all the time, it... interfered constantly... But it was always to try to help somebody or to teach me about what's happening in the world." [16:47, Anthony William]

2. Belief, Spirituality, and Commitment

• Religious Perspective
  • Although deeply spiritual and believing in God, Anthony distinguishes the Spirit of Compassion as “not God, not an angel, not a ghost,” but rather the embodiment of the word “compassion.”
  • Quote: "The voice I'm hearing is not God. Spirit of Compassion is not an angel either... he is a word. So the word compassion." [16:57, Anthony William]
• Turning Points and Acceptance
  • A pivotal event: saving his drowning dog with what he describes as “angelic intervention,” reinforced his commitment to a life of service.
  • Quote: "I felt like I had superhuman powers... Spirit of Compassion said... that angel’s not going to stay here any longer. You have to get back." [19:53, Anthony William]
  • The burden became a conscious purpose rather than something to reject.

3. Rise of the Medical Medium Movement

• Early Practice and Demand
  • For decades, Anthony maintained an all-hours “walk-in” clinic, helping people with undiagnosed chronic illnesses long before the rise of social media or alternative health’s mainstream popularity.
  • Introduces the concept of "light blasts"—spirit-channeled energy healings delivered en masse.
  • Quote: “It was like a line of people…. 50, 60 people on a Saturday morning at my office, people coming in, giving them a light blast.” [30:35, Anthony William]
• First Book Origins
  • His first book, Medical Medium, born out of necessity due to an unmanageable waiting list ("7 million waiting list"), distilled decades of readings, protocols, and philosophies.
  • Quote: "That first book, Medical Medium, that… was just—it was life changing for so many people." [34:33, Anthony William]

4. Core Protocols & Foundational Beliefs

• True Causes of Chronic Illness

  • Anthony’s platform is built on uncovering “true causes” of chronic, mysterious health issues—viruses (especially Epstein-Barr), heavy metals, environmental toxins, and nutritional deficits.
  • The book provides both the etiology of illness and practical natural protocols: food-based cleanses, juice therapies, and “heavy metal detox” recipes.
  • Quote: "The first medical medium book… it was all about, here's why you're suffering: aches and pains, tingles and numbness… true causes of these diseases and symptoms." [42:05, Anthony William]

• Protocols Discussed

  • Celery Juice: Still central to his practice; popularized as a daily healing tonic.
    • “Every supermodel's on celery juice… You're gonna just be kissing that problem goodbye.” [36:06, Anthony William]
  • Heavy Metal Detox Smoothie: Ingredients—spirulina, barley grass juice powder, wild blueberries, dulse, cilantro.
    • “It's the most popular, the most powerful heavy metal detox in the world right now.” [44:59, Anthony William]
  • 28-Day Cleanse and other food protocols highlighted.
  • Attack on “Fruit Fear” & Processed Supplement Trends
    • Anthony claims his information shifted the health movement from fearing fruit to embracing it as core to healing.
    • Dismisses health trends that focus on processed supplements (peptides, creatine, fish oil, etc.) as ineffective or even misleading for the seriously ill.
    • Quote: "Biohack trends are for people who aren't sick." [61:50, Anthony William]

5. Criticism, Skepticism, & the Influence Industry

• Handling Skepticism
  • Anthony acknowledges critics and is most concerned about people getting only fragments of his advice, missing the bigger picture of comprehensive healing.
  • “The sad part is... they don't know where to get the rest of it. They're not going to really get the answers they need.” [47:23, Anthony William]
• Thoughts on Health Influencers & Wellness Trends
  • Critical of the commodification of wellness and the recycled nature of trends in the influencer era:
  • Quote: “The trends constantly get recycled over and over again… they're all trying to make money… It's a money game.” [53:12, Anthony William]
  • Warns that chronic sufferers are left underserved by the “noise” and confusion generated by profit-driven social media experts.

6. Chronic Illness: Definitions & Degrees

• Understanding “Chronic Illness”
  • Not binary; Anthony points out degrees from “not so sick” (occasional symptoms, can experiment with trends) to truly “sick” (unable to function, desperate for answers).
  • Social norms, dependence on caffeine, and low-grade symptoms mask wider prevalence of chronic issues.
  • Quote: "There's not a lot of people that feel fantastic every single day… We're kind of, we've left that port a long time ago." [68:49, Anthony William]

7. Anthony William’s New Book

• Life-Changing Foods (Expanded Edition)
  • New edition introduces thirty new foods, expanded toxin/poison information, protocols for fertility, and a comprehensive index for symptoms.
  • Intended as a go-to reference for natural healing.
  • Quote: "This is just my manuscript right here... almost 600 pages." [70:57, Anthony William]

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the evolution of health trends:
  “Every five years, everybody forgets. New generations aren’t just 15 years later anymore… And everybody gets tricked easily to thinking, well, they need to be in colostrum again.” [66:05, Anthony William]

• On practical healing:
  “If you’re somebody that’s bedridden with chronic illness, you’re on mattress island. You’ve done everything… You think peptides are going to fix you?” [60:11, Anthony William]

• On public health confusion:
  “It is madness out there for someone who’s really sick. Madness. And the trends constantly get recycled…” [53:12, Anthony William]

• On personal boundaries and health:
  “There was no… sleep from eleven o’clock at night to seven in the morning. I had a 24-hour service.” [33:52, Anthony William]

Important Timestamps

• [08:39] — Anthony describes hearing the “Spirit of Compassion” as a child.
• [13:13] — Reactions from Anthony’s family and the public to his gift.
• [16:57] — Anthony clarifies his spiritual beliefs and the nature of the “Spirit of Compassion.”
• [19:53] — Emotional story about committing to his healing path after saving his dog.
• [30:35] — Stories from his early healing practice; the “light blast” method.
• [34:33] — Publishing the first Medical Medium book and impact
• [36:06] — On the culture and phenomenon of celery juice.
• [42:05] — Laying out the foundational causes and protocols of chronic illness in his method.
• [44:59] — The “Heavy Metal Detox Smoothie” and its popularity.
• [53:12] — Critique of wellness trends, influencer noise, and the chronic illness landscape.
• [61:50] — On the ineffectiveness of biohacking/supplement trends for the truly sick.
• [68:49] — Discussing day-to-day wellness, caffeine, and the “not so sick” category.
• [70:57] — Introduction to Medical Medium Life-Changing Foods (Expanded Edition)

Memorable & Characteristic Moments

• Oliver’s Relatable Sibling/Everyman Jokes:
  Banter about “room check-ins,” poking fun at health trends, and acknowledging that most people don’t feel “zippity doo da” every day.
• Candid Dismissal of Health Fads:
  Anthony is blunt ("stupid") about peptides, creatine, and recycled biohacking trends, maintaining his focus on food and holistic protocols.
• Emotional Transparency:
  Anthony’s story of saving his dog brings visible emotion and cements his personal connection to the mission.
• Oliver’s Takeaway and Disclaimer:
  “If it works for you, it works for you... don’t take this as gospel… that’s his stuff. So don’t sue me.” [72:43, Oliver Hudson]

Tone & Language

• Conversational, sometimes lighthearted and irreverent (particularly from Oliver); Anthony is earnest, somewhat mystical, but practical.
• At times emotional (Anthony recounting childhood, his dog, and exhaustion).
• Straight talk, especially about skeptics and supplement trends, with candid swearing.

Conclusion

This episode provides a window into Anthony William’s unusual life story and the arguments behind his alternative health movement. It covers origin stories, reveals the rigorous commitment required for his chosen path, explores widespread public confusion about health, and expresses skepticism about mainstream and alternative trends alike. The guest’s message is ultimately one of food-based, natural healing, rejecting profit-driven trends and encouraging listeners to look deeper for real answers—while the hosts keep things grounded and relatable for a general (not just wellness-absorbed) audience.