A (2:23)

Oh, you're right.

B (2:24)

And some other drama. This is sibling watchery. And we're reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars season 1111, which I gotta say, I How do you feel about this new structure?

A (2:38)

You. I know you hate it.

B (2:39)

I don't. First of all, I like them sitting down in a chair, talking straight to camera. I'm not into this. I'm not into the notion of catching queens mid drag or in a robe. Like Lucky Stars has. Like, she's wearing her robe. And I think Joy J is wearing her robe.

A (2:57)

Morgan Michaels, because she's a seasoned queen. She said, y' all not gonna catch me.

B (3:00)

Morgan is up in full yags.

A (3:02)

But I think. Okay, so there's a lot of discourse about this promo style and think something out. But I think people should know. I think it's not new. We know Skydance bought Paramount, and so it's a new.

B (3:12)

And Blackrock owns everything.

A (3:14)

Do they.

B (3:15)

I don't know. Blackrock's gotta be involved somehow. They're always involved. Never.

A (3:17)

Yeah, and so they are. It's a new team that did this rollout. Like, so season 18 was the original team. Season All Stars 11 is a new team that's doing this rollout. So that's why you're seeing a lot of different changes with how they're doing to meet the queens. And no shade.

B (3:35)

The editing on the promo pictures is not great. I want to say, obviously, we don't know. I mean, these. This is Drag Race been going on for almost 20 years now. So there have probably been multiple people editing, you know, up to season eight. I think all the promo photos were.

A (3:48)

Photo. Were photographed by Mike Ruiz.

B (3:51)

No, Matthew.

A (3:53)

Oh, Matthew.

B (3:53)

Matthew took my photo.

A (3:54)

Matthew took your picture.

B (3:56)

My photo? Yeah.

A (3:56)

Yeah. Mine was David LaChapelle.

B (3:58)

David.

A (3:59)

What, is he canceled now?

B (4:01)

No, he's huge. Are you kidding me? Do you know how he.

A (4:05)

I know he's huge, but I thought you like.

B (4:07)

Cause he got. I was like, look at her.

A (4:08)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew that.

B (4:10)

Yeah. He's massive. He's photographed presidents.

A (4:12)

Yeah, but it wouldn't be. I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be shocked if.

B (4:15)

Have you seen his Eminem picture and his Tupac picture?

A (4:18)

No.

B (4:18)

David LaChapelle's Eminem pictures are both really hot.

A (4:22)

Like what? Like, what's so hot about them?

B (4:23)

I guess you'll see the one with the dynamite stick is pretty hot. We're gonna. And we are gonna let you all see. By the way, if you would like to watch us record this live, you can join the Patreon. Go to Patreon type in Silver Rivalry podcast. You can watch us actually record these live as opposed to getting edited. This is the one I Want to

A (4:41)

say really hot, Bob.

B (4:42)

It's. I think it's hot.

A (4:43)

Provocative. I don't think it's hot.

B (4:45)

I think it's. I think the Eminem was. Was pretty hot back in his day. And then the Tupac one, Also very hot.

A (4:50)

Wait, is the other one him, too? All the way. Is this him, too?

B (4:52)

That's Dave Lachpell. Yeah.

A (4:54)

Oh, that's hot.

B (4:54)

That's my. That's right.

A (4:55)

Was so hot. I would have. There's not. There's little. I would. I would not have given to suck that man's dick. He is hot.

B (5:01)

Why didn't you jump in front of the bullet? You could have stopped all of this.

A (5:06)

That's crazy to say you said anything. You cannot say that.

B (5:10)

You let him get Bob.

A (5:11)

Respect the dad.

B (5:12)

Anyway, let's get on to these queens. So up first, we have Morphe.

A (5:17)

Someone said Bob the hair.

B (5:19)

Thank you, guys. You know, I'm on a journey. I'm a little self conscious about having hair right now.

A (5:23)

Why?

B (5:24)

I don't. I cannot explain why I'm self conscious about it.

A (5:26)

Self conscious because you think it looks bad?

B (5:28)

Because I think it looks like I had a hair transplant.

A (5:30)

It really doesn't. And, you know, I would love to tell you it looks like a transplant. It looks like your hair is a hair.

B (5:37)

I also had enhancements in last time where they, like, put the coloring in, but I got it done when I got my haircut, which I vlogged. You'll see it. I have a vlog coming out about my hair transplant, and it only lasts a few days. I washed it out when I washed my hair.

A (5:51)

Like the Beijing they did to you?

B (5:54)

I don't know. It's basically spray painting my head. Basically.

A (5:56)

Like, yeah, when the guys get a haircut and it's like the black line,

B (5:59)

but I did not do the white. He bust out that white eyeliner. I said, baby, baby, put that shit back. He was like, yeah. I said, dude, do not put that white eyeliner on my head. I hate it. No shade to all these.

A (6:09)

It's a little highlight.

B (6:10)

I don't like it. It's not a highlight. It's a white line. Let's go on to morphine. Yeah. This is my real hair. This is my real hair.

A (6:17)

I want to have on Monet talk so bad.

B (6:19)

You know what?

A (6:19)

Cute, cute little.

B (6:20)

She don't fuck with us. I don't think she fucks with us. Really? I don't think. What do we do? Let's go on to morphine. Love, Dion.

A (6:28)

I love Love, Love this queen. Morphine looks so freaking good.

B (6:33)

Morphine, honey.

A (6:34)

Morphine. I want to say in that.

B (6:37)

I want you more mean.

A (6:38)

People were literally like, what is Bob talking about?

B (6:40)

A lot of people were saying. A lot of people were saying they hear the difference. For example, you'll say it. I'll say it. Taylor, do you hear a difference? Morphine.

A (6:47)

Morphine.

B (6:50)

Thank you. There is a difference in how we're saying. In fact, let's read the comments now and I'll move on in the comments. Do y' all hear a difference in how we're saying? The comments are a little bit behind. There's a lag, so they're not going to be on there until.

A (7:00)

Why is it so hard for you to let things go?

B (7:02)

No, no, no, no. Never. Not once. Bob.

A (7:05)

You. I. We.

B (7:06)

I can let things go.

A (7:07)

You took 20 minutes.

B (7:08)

You took 20 minutes out of our podcast to talk about how I say morphine. Morphine. I love morphine. So we got Morphine, Love, Dion, honey, I'm going to kick you out of your tongue. I love Morphine. I'm. I'm doing it your way. Morphine.

A (7:21)

Um, I think she looks really stellar. This is a very beautiful outfit. Morphine always has dope hair and makeup, and I think this outfit is very, very, very good. I love the drama in this. I love the little nail accents, these tall ass heels. Her body looks incredible. Morphine looks. She looks like a winner to me.

B (7:37)

Yeah, I think she looks absolutely stunning. I feel like I have seen the glow up since her season for sure. This is the thing. I do want to see a difference between your season and All Stars. I do want to see that.

A (7:49)

And her season was what, two. Two seasons ago? She was season 16. Jacob.

B (7:53)

She was on Sapphira season.

A (7:56)

No, that's 15. Saphir was 15 with the danger. Like the. The green. Yeah, that was. That was 16, but I was 15. I don't know.

B (8:06)

16 was. Sapphira was 16 because it was her versus Nymphia went. Who won 16? Sasha Colby won 15. So I forget the promo for 16.

A (8:16)

Okay. I think it was because Sapphire had that green military thing. It was like the destruction thing. So, yeah, okay.

B (8:21)

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

A (8:22)

Okay. Sorry about that.

B (8:23)

So, yeah, obviously she looks amazing. She was the lip sync assassin. She Assassin. Can you let things go how I assassinate? Can you not just let things go?

A (8:33)

I will never let things go the way you have tried to ruin my career. From Claire, Air bear chair.

B (8:38)

I have given you so much water for work.

A (8:41)

Okay. You don't you don't get to tell me what you think about. I have my opinions about it and I don't like it.

B (8:46)

I'm not saying your opinions are wrong. They're just different than mine.

A (8:48)

Continue, Vince.

B (8:50)

Actually, okay, if I'm being honest, I don't know what I see. Okay, let me think back. Do I see a ton of growth? I. If morphine, if morphine would have worn. If morphine would have worn this on her season, I feel like it wouldn't have been too crazy. So let me, let me. I wouldn't say a ton of growth. I can see a little bit different. Really? Yeah. Because if she was on season, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Like, I feel like we'll get to Queens who I feel like have had a ton of growth. And she does look good though. But she also. How much was there to grow from Jacob?

A (9:20)

Can we see her original promo?

B (9:22)

How do we feel about really, really, really dark lip liner?

A (9:26)

I love it. That is my thing, girl.

B (9:27)

I used to do a jet black lip liner and then the girls started gathering me and then I didn't. Then I went to literally no lip liner. No, I like, I.

A (9:36)

Everyone I do a dark lip liner and every time I do it, I do like, I take, I take like the dark, darkest brown from Nyx and I also go with Mac Chestnut on top of that to give a little ombre. But, but I do like a 90s style lip every time. Like dark.

B (9:49)

Right now I'm doing a dark brown. I was doing no lip liner for years.

A (9:53)

I think all black queens wear a lip liner. That's just my me.

B (9:57)

But yeah, I think that. Yeah, so I don't think her look is so.

A (10:00)

It's a glow up from her. Look at her original one.

B (10:02)

I think her original looks really good though. So I think that the outfit is a glow up. But like her the style. I could see Morphine wearing what she's wearing now on her original season. It wouldn't be like, holy shit, someone changed the game. You know what I mean? Stepping there. She looks absolutely stunning.

A (10:16)

Yeah, I think she looks great.

B (10:17)

And she's going to eat the girls up in the lip sync.

A (10:20)

I mean, we'll, we'll get there with some. Who are the lip sync girls this season? There are a lot of good lip synchros this season actually.

B (10:26)

For sure. Let's go into Lucky Stars.

A (10:29)

Her and her.

B (10:30)

Oh, oh, oh. She looks at the bug from.

A (10:33)

From Bugs Life.

B (10:34)

Bugs Life.

A (10:35)

Yeah, but that's her thing. Remember she did it at the Finale. She wore a bug. She wore Jacob. She wore another ladybug costume. Some other time. I think it was either the finale of. Of her season or in a. In a Runway.

B (10:49)

Does she love ladybugs? Maybe they say she looks like.

A (10:51)

No, but she wore a ladybug thing as well.

B (10:53)

It wasn't because everyone said she looked like.

A (10:55)

Yeah, it was because that. And she wore. It's like a thing.

B (10:57)

Is that like when little mama did the sadness?

A (11:00)

Yeah. See, look, a dragcon. That's where it was. She did a dragon.

B (11:03)

They say she like ladybugs, but it's definitely a.

A (11:05)

This one on All Stars is a glow up for even that. Like this is a fully. Well, fully stoned from the. Because I know you're. Because. Because the wings aren't some bob like Monet. It's not fully stoned.

B (11:15)

Well, it's not. The gloves aren't stone. It is stone.

A (11:19)

It's.

B (11:19)

The words matter.

A (11:21)

It looks really good. And I think Morphine. I really enjoy her makeup. I want Morphine to paint me one of these gays. I have to like. She is stamped.

B (11:27)

I gotta say though, this thing that she's doing, this like cut out face mask. You gotta make sure, like I don't have a face that can do that. Like when I do it my whole. Which is interesting because morphine has a little chunk on her face. I have a little chunk on my face too. But like some of hers isn't. Like mine protrudes forward. Like my whole. All the fat from my face is just smushed in the thing. I don't know if it's.

A (11:51)

I've never done one of these Everest. I could even. I've never done this.

B (11:54)

So there's like. You got to make sure where you put it to like you put it behind here. Then all this spills out.

A (11:59)

You got to put it like here.

B (12:00)

Yeah. So she. She's obviously found the right spot because she doesn't have like a super like thin phase. But she's found the way to do it where it doesn't. I have not found out how to do this yet. The face without my face protruding.

A (12:10)

Our next sibling costume. Should it be. Should it be these kind of face things?

B (12:13)

Yeah, we gotta. I gotta figure the spot for this.

A (12:15)

Your sweet spot. Yeah.

B (12:16)

Let's go on to Lucky Stars. Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z. This look. I love this look. And even. Even in this dirty photography, she still looks good to me.

A (12:25)

Yeah. Like y'. All like a good. I say good photographer. The person who did this Picture. Oh, and what's that from Australia? That will go into pictures and retouch them and, like, redo people's flyers. Kane.

B (12:37)

No clue. Oh, she has a big. I know. She did a thing for me. Fuck. Let's redesign a pay sty. Yeah, let's redesign a pay style.

A (12:46)

Me and her.

B (12:47)

Fuck. Her name is. I got there. Let's redesign it. If I keep saying her name enough, who is it? Let's redesign a pay style three times. We. Her name is Ashley Madison.

A (12:57)

Ashley Madison.

B (12:59)

I had to say it enough times.

A (13:00)

Oh, and I real. Like, her name is problematic because it's in America. We have an Ashley Madison website.

B (13:05)

That's the joke that she did it because of Ashley Madison.

A (13:08)

Got it.

B (13:09)

Yeah. You think that was the coincidence? I mean, Mikey Meeks was a coincidence, which is crazy. I thought she was. I thought she loved npr. I was like, damn, another NPR queen. Someone else who listen to NPR every morning. She loves Mikey. She loves Mickey Meeks.

A (13:20)

Mickey Meeks.

B (13:21)

Yeah.

A (13:21)

So y' all a really quick. Like, any photographer. Jacob is a photographer, knows this. Like, they should have went in with black and just make their blacks blacker and, like, do things to help the girls on in the picture because they're blasted with light and you have to help them in the edit. And this guy did. No.

B (13:38)

And with all that, it could be the editing, could be the photographer, it could be the editor.

A (13:41)

The editor.

B (13:42)

At this scale, usually the photographer and the editor are not the same person.

A (13:45)

But that being said, I think the makeup still looks stunning, and I think this is a really cool look. I'm not really sure. Is she, like, supposed to be like Taka from Moana?

B (13:55)

Like, I don't know. I thought a volcanic deity. Jacob, as a photographer, can you speak to this, please? What do you mean, like, what she's supposed to be? No, that's not her. Like, like the editing and like, what. What you think could be. Could be done to help here or do you think this is great? Talk to me as a photographer. Okay. I think they're actually like, first of all, it's hit or miss. Like, for example, this photo morphine. Looks great. Is incredible. They really killed it. And I think they did the retouching for her pretty well too. I think there are other ones that are worse. Lucky Stars is a hard one, because I do agree they should have gone in and, like, made those blacks blacker. But I can also see that that's a lot of work and they maybe they're being lazy about it and also no place to Be lazy. This is. And also it's hard to know what they were because this, because this is so out of. Out of the picture of regular makeup retouching. I think this is a harder thing to do. And they're not really sure what to go for and what they're bringing a specialist.

A (14:47)

Yeah. And also, y', all these pictures follow these girls for my people still use my promo pictures and I have three to choose from and they will still go back to that season 10 when I'm sitting there like, we look cross eyed.

B (15:01)

Like, if we go to other ones, like Crystal Method, there are other ones where they're like, well, you asked my opinion on all the photos on this one. All right, More lucky stars. You know, I. I don't know that I can say I see a ton of growth because this is very similar to what she did before.

A (15:17)

Yeah. Um, so recent. She was here like one season ago.

B (15:20)

I do love, love, love this fucking. I love this look. I love this big hand. I think this is so great. But when she. They asked her was her biggest regret from the season, she said wearing the shoe she wore during her lip sync, I'm like, that's your biggest regret from the season. But stuff follows you around. Yeah.

A (15:37)

And also, maybe she thought. Maybe she thought she could have really saved herself if she was in a better shoe.

B (15:40)

That's what she said. She said. She's like. I could say. But also, you know, I know you. I know your biggest regret. I want to bring it up because you don't like talking about it, but

A (15:46)

like, wait, don't say it on camera. Just do. Yes.

B (15:50)

Yeah. Yeah. But it's like what you think is your biggest grand. Like, no one else is thinking about that. Like no one else is thinking about that.

A (15:59)

I always bring up people like, what? But I mean, it's my biggest.

B (16:02)

Are you vulnerable with your. With your audience?

A (16:03)

But it's my. It's my biggest regret. It's not yours, it's mine.

B (16:06)

Do you want to be vulnerable with your audience?

A (16:07)

No. I've talked about it several times. I'm not going to talk about it today.

B (16:09)

I just want a whole space for you to be vulnerable.

A (16:11)

I'm not interested.

B (16:11)

Is that not people Hidden Undercover?

A (16:13)

No, that Runway is my biggest regret.

B (16:15)

Gotcha. How do you feel like now that you're snatched and like in your body, like Journey bag?

A (16:21)

Well, now I know. Now I know how I would do it now. Before, it was my first time trying out on camera, which was stupid. I should not have tried that out on camera. That was the dumbest thing to do.

B (16:29)

So maybe if you do a redemption look, I'm gonna go back on Drag Race. I once tried it out at Ms. Hell's Kitchen.

A (16:36)

And how did it work out for you?

B (16:37)

Because there was a thing back in time where people would do a glitter puss. You remember? Glitter puss is really big in New York City.

A (16:42)

Glitter puss.

B (16:42)

So glitter puss. So you. You would Tuck. And then you would cover your crotch in glue, like spray glue, and then cover that in glitter.

A (16:51)

I never heard of.

B (16:52)

And I did it. I did that at. Ms. Hell. At Ms. Hell's Kitchen.

A (16:55)

And how did it work out for you?

B (16:56)

I look great.

A (16:58)

Okay.

B (16:58)

Tuck was popping and slopping.

A (16:59)

Someone said, jake needs a mic. J. Oh, cuz. Oh. Because you don't have this.

B (17:03)

Oh, yeah.

A (17:04)

Got it.

B (17:04)

Understood. Well, it.

A (17:05)

It'll be in the.

B (17:05)

In the. In the main.

A (17:06)

Yeah.

B (17:12)

Yeah. We've been having so much fun partnering with Airbnb, and honestly, it makes sense because we're always traveling, shows, gigs, filming. We're never in one place for long. And that's why Airbnb, it just works. You get more space, a kitchen, a living room. It actually feels like you can live here, not just lay your head down and sleep here.

A (17:29)

I stayed in the spot in Austin that had a full dining table and cozy living room. Y'. All. The complete. Completely change the vibe, girl. I could actually relax before the show and chill and luxuriate in my lovely Airbnb accommodation. Because Airbnb has millions of unique places to stay all over the world. So you can always find something that fits your vibe. When I went to London, when I went to Mexico, when I went to Australia.

B (17:51)

Australia. Was it a kangaroo in your yard?

A (17:53)

A girl three.

B (17:55)

Listen, I'm serious. Airbnb has changed the game for tour life. Glam up your trip and book a stay at Airbnb.

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B (19:41)

So, yeah, I think that she looks really great and I think she looks good. And now she knows to not wear big shoes.

A (19:49)

Yeah.

B (19:50)

Wearing shoes too big has never been a problem for me.

A (19:52)

Me either. Also, Bob and I talked about this, this trend of girls, and I see it all the time now. People strapping their shoes in with those clear heels. Have you seen this girl? All the girls now, I see them on, in the videos, whatever, they wear a heel and they go in and reinforce it with this clear strappy thing that goes over like a T. Oh. And to see, I'm like, are people losing their shoes again? Never been a concern for me.

B (20:14)

Yeah, my shoes are snug as a bug in a rug. Not a problem. This is for little foot bitches.

A (20:19)

Yeah.

B (20:19)

Let's go into the Steve.

A (20:20)

No, no, no. Her entrance. Look.

B (20:21)

Oh, her entrance.

A (20:22)

Look what she looks like. I feel like we've seen this. We saw it in her last season.

B (20:26)

That's what I'm saying. There's not a ton of growth, but also there's, to be fair, like, I. I think I like where her thing is. These shoes do not match.

A (20:32)

This look, though.

B (20:34)

Like, girl, just repaint your shoes yellow or green or whatever color this is, this yellow.

A (20:38)

And I guess, you know, if you come working with this, I don't know her finances, but you don't want to just ruin a shoe. Oh, it is Drag Race. So it's like, yeah, like spend the extra 150 and get an extra pair so your entrance look can like be fully realized.

B (20:51)

Also, if you spray paint a shoe, you can just spray paint it again. Like I've had shoes that I spray

A (20:54)

paint and they get crusty.

B (20:55)

Girl, it is what it is, my boy.

A (20:57)

They get crusty.

B (20:58)

Mickey Meeks had a pair of crusty shoes that she spray painted and she won RuPaul's Drag Race. Those Olivia Newton John shoes was crusty. They were clearly spray painted, cracking at every step.

A (21:06)

Girl, those, those, those shoes were a sin. Those are sin and carnage.

B (21:09)

But she won her Paul's Drag Race.

A (21:10)

Let's go on to Mystique Summers. Madison.

B (21:12)

I think she's Mystique Summers now.

A (21:14)

Oh, just Mystique Summers. Oh, she dropped the Madison.

B (21:17)

I don't know. I just say this says Mystique Summers here. This is an. Oh, this is one of the OGs. Like Logan 2. Yeah, season two. A bitch. I am from Chicago.

A (21:24)

Yeah.

B (21:25)

And I mean, obviously Mystique is. It's been a while. She is the self proclaimed creator of Untucked.

A (21:32)

Oh, yeah. I mean she, she was, you know, you know the, the first brick that was thrown at the Stonewall.

B (21:38)

The one that hit Morgan Michael when she yelled at her.

A (21:40)

She was the first fight that happened in Untucked.

B (21:41)

Yeah, exactly.

A (21:42)

Yeah.

B (21:42)

I do not like these contacts. It drives me crazy. It makes your eyes look crazy.

A (21:47)

You know, I have gone on the records in as many times. I. I rarely see sell them like an ice blue contact on a chocolate queen. I just feel like it looks weird sometimes.

B (21:55)

Can you serve this photo of Monet with ice blue contacts?

A (21:57)

Yeah, and I hated it. And you know what it is? I actually, I haven't worn light blue contact since like my back in my Coco Montrese days when we used to be at Barracuda.

B (22:06)

Okay.

A (22:06)

When we used to be at. When you. When you had me doing your little show at Boots and Sadness and I. And you didn't. I forgot to tuck. I think that was the last night I wore those ice.

B (22:14)

And I still paid you that night. That's crazy.

A (22:16)

You're not. The fact that you think you paid.

B (22:18)

I did pay you, Bob, when I

A (22:19)

did a Boots and Saddles. Boots and Saddles. You never paid me for boots and Saddles.

B (22:23)

Well, you begged. You were interning. Ok, but when I booked you, I paid you. When at Boots and Saddle and at the Monster. Fucking twice a month.

A (22:30)

Okay, Monster. Yes. You did not pay me a boots and saddle.

B (22:33)

And I pay you here.

A (22:34)

I pay you here.

B (22:36)

Copacetic.

A (22:37)

Anyway.

B (22:38)

Copacetic.

A (22:39)

I know it's copacetic. I like saying copacethetic. Kind of like I was saying. I like saying anyways. Even just. Anyway.

B (22:43)

Anyway.

A (22:46)

I think this ice will contact look a little wild. And this outfit is a little crazy with this shoe and this lace.

B (22:53)

Lace stockings. Oh, the stockings are criminal. Criminal.

A (22:59)

But she has lost a substantial amount of weight since her last season.

B (23:03)

Yeah. Yeah.

A (23:04)

I mean, so it's a difference. Like that. Like, you. Like that's a difference. You see that? She's. She's.

B (23:08)

Well, I will say this outside of her weight loss, which. Sure. That's your goal. Congratulations. She has grown significantly. Like y'.

A (23:16)

All.

B (23:16)

I mean, it has been 16 years.

A (23:20)

She has grown. Like, her aesthetic.

B (23:22)

Yes. Her artistry.

A (23:23)

We didn't see much of her the first time we saw for two episodes.

B (23:26)

But. But we saw, though, like. Like Mystique's drag on her season was crazy. When I say mall. Remember Monet? Literal mall dragon.

A (23:37)

But they all did Mal Drive back then, Bob.

B (23:39)

Not like Mystique. First of all, James was wearing custom clothing on that season. James was wearing custom fierce clothing.

A (23:47)

It's King James to you.

B (23:48)

King James that. Especially to you. You'll be. You'll be murdered again. Boom. You'll. You'll be obituated again. You can just hit the mute button. The mute's on the left. There you go. Yeah. I mean, Mystique had some pretty brutal looks on her season. They. They were. They were brutal. And especially her elimination look was probably the craz. It was. It was actually insane. But at least now she's wearing some custom clothing, which I do appreciate. She's obviously learned. Learned a lot about drag. Her makeup has changed a lot. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I think there's some. This. Yeah. Yeah, of course. This. But look at what Mystique is wearing. This is particularly pedestrian. This is crazy. The makeup is pretty crazy.

A (24:31)

Every time I just have booty shorts and a flannel shirt on. They all look pedestrian.

B (24:35)

Well, I mean, if you like. You like it. What I'm saying is that little. That.

A (24:39)

That little wig, though, is a little crazy.

B (24:40)

I feel like she's grown a lot. Look at this. Sorry.

A (24:43)

Remember doing this. Not as custom. Yeah. Work. Okay.

B (24:47)

Yeah.

A (24:47)

We should go on to backstory. Now we're doing this.

B (24:48)

What I've been trying to do for a hot Minute now, but yeah, I think that she's. She's grown a lot. They're editing. Problem with this, like the stockings and the shoe and the. I actually like this dress, though. I actually think this dress is really cute.

A (25:01)

I can't really tell what it is. Like. Yeah, I don't think.

B (25:05)

Yeah, it looks a little club kitty goes. Goes met gala to me, which I. Which I'm not. Which I'm into.

A (25:10)

And obviously, like, she has a classic drag. She's wearing like the like very like fierce drag. Well, I don't know if they're fierce drag jewels, but drag queen jewelry. Jewelry, which is nice.

B (25:20)

Her voice is so kind to me.

A (25:21)

It is.

B (25:21)

I agree she sounds like a woman.

A (25:23)

I agree.

B (25:23)

To me, Mystique sounds like a cisgender woman. I wish I had. I wish I could affect a voice like that in Dragon.

A (25:31)

You could, even with some practice.

B (25:33)

But I don't want to do the work. I just want to naturally have a voice that sounds like a woman's gonna be like, hi, everyone.

A (25:38)

Like Mikey.

B (25:39)

Yeah. It has one of those woman voices. You know what I mean? I hate when people say my fierce competition, myself. I hate that answer, guys. I hate it. My first competition is myself. Boo. Let's go into her interest. Look, this is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is bizarre. This is wild.

A (26:01)

What's bizarre?

B (26:02)

I think what it is is her eyebrows make her look villain esque. And she looks shiny. She looks like really shiny. Like she's not matte, but it doesn't seem like gloss. I don't know why she's so shiny.

A (26:20)

I mean, I don't have a problem with the sheen. I actually really like this dress. I think the dress is great and I love the hair. I. I like this entrance look. I'm not. I'm. I'm not mad at this at all. I think it's pretty great, actually.

B (26:31)

It. You know what it is? This dress looks like it smells like Cody powder.

A (26:36)

Well, that's. Cause it looks like the case.

B (26:37)

No, because it looks like it smells like a. Like a. Like a. Like an older drag queen. You know, old dragons all smell like Cody powder. If you don't know, Cody powder basically kind of smells a little bit like a baby powder with a little bit of perfume in it. This is what I imagine a Cody Potter drag queen would look like.

A (26:52)

Yeah. I'm not mad at it.

B (26:53)

I think.

A (26:53)

I think I like the volume of the hair. I think I like her. I love her sh.

B (26:56)

Shape.

A (26:57)

I think the dress is actually interesting. I, I, I like this outfit. I think she looks good.

B (27:01)

I don't love it. Let's move on to Morgan McMichaels, who was back for the third time.

A (27:05)

Third time. Third time's a charm. Morgan. See, look at that.

B (27:09)

Great.

A (27:09)

Yeah. But like under her eye, like, why didn't they help her out under there? It looks so muddy under there. Like, they could have really crisped that up. They could have crisped up the lashes for her. They could have, like. Anyway, we, we can get into that.

B (27:18)

I think Morgan looks really good here. Is she the first one to have, like, background people?

A (27:23)

No, they all have background people.

B (27:25)

Yeah, they just, they just really stood out in that one for some reason.

A (27:27)

Yeah.

B (27:29)

But, yeah, I think Morgan looks really good. I like this outfit. I think her makeup looks great. Her hair looks fantastic. I love these boots. I love this gauntlet on her arm. This is a great look. She looks amazing.

A (27:40)

I think Morgan looks great. I think obviously her hubby probably did the hair as well. He's shout out to Hasan. He's such a talented wig stylist. And yeah, I think, I think Morgan looks great. I think we know that Morgan is going to give, like, I think Morgan's a very talented queen. I don't know how Morgan has not made it to the top two of the other seasons she's done. Because I think Morgan is quite a stunning drag queen.

B (27:59)

Morgan is low key, an icon.

A (28:00)

Yeah. So I hope that this season works out for her. I hope Morgan fucking turns it out. She's, she, she deserves it. She's fudgeing out here, punching Nazis in the face and breaking her wrists.

B (28:10)

Like she low key runs, runs with her.

A (28:12)

Oh, for sure, y'.

B (28:13)

All. No shade. Morgan is low key in charge of the girls. Yeah. If you are a queen and you want to come to la, you want, and by the way, and this is not just for Drag Race girls. She. Oh, yeah, yeah.

A (28:22)

Local girls.

B (28:22)

She will get other girls. Like, she will get you gigs. She will give you a six city, a six show tour.

A (28:28)

Yeah. In la. She'll have you at Mickey Chevy at Hamburger Mary's in We Hill. Hamburger. Hamburger Mary's, Long Beach. Hamburger Mary's, Ontario. Like, she's not playing like Morgan is. She is that girl.

B (28:38)

When they ask who's in charge of the girls, the answer is Morgan McMichaels.

A (28:41)

Truly, I think she looks great and I'm, I'm really, really, really rooting for Morgan this season.

B (28:45)

But then she said in her interview, she goes, I'm not the type to align with anyone, baby. This is All Stars, Champion of the competitors. Survivor. Yeah, you got a Whatever the fuck it's called.

A (28:56)

Tournament of Champions.

B (28:57)

Tournament of Champions, Survivor All Stars.

A (28:58)

So you do have to make. I mean, but. So do you want Morgan to play a dirty game? Not a dirty game, but a game.

B (29:02)

A social game? Yes, I want to play a social game.

A (29:04)

No, but not aligning meaning, like alliances. Like, do you want to do like. Like a mistress? Like have a thing and then deceive people out of. Out of coins?

B (29:10)

Not about deceiving people, but you have to align with someone. Someone's gonna have to give you a star.

A (29:14)

Ginger Min should have any alignments, and

B (29:16)

she won, but she stayed in the top. I don't think Morgan's gonna stay on the top every time. I don't think Morgan can sew. So we can do.

A (29:22)

She can sew.

B (29:24)

Not like that.

A (29:25)

I mean, enough to. On the show, you saw who's in her bracket.

B (29:28)

Is she gonna outsource morphine?

A (29:30)

Does morphine sew?

B (29:31)

Yes. Is she gonna outsow Lucky Stars? Is she gonna out design Lucky Stars?

A (29:36)

But that's what it means.

B (29:37)

Is she going to out design Dawn?

A (29:39)

Yeah, dawn knows.

B (29:40)

Is she gonna out design a'? Keria?

A (29:41)

Yeah, dawn and Akira.

B (29:42)

So what are you gonna do when you. Exactly. She's gonna have the line with somebody,

A (29:45)

but that's assuming that she's gonna have a design challenge.

B (29:47)

They gotta give them all a design challenge.

A (29:48)

No, the last Ginger Minj bracket didn't have any design. They did all.

B (29:51)

Yes, it did. Ginger Minj designed that mermaid gown.

A (29:53)

But it was more about the story. The whole, like, Witch of the West. It was a story thing, but there was a design. Okay, Design element. Yes.

B (30:00)

Yes, there was an element of design. I actually like this jacket. I hate these pants. I like the whole thing.

A (30:06)

I think it's so campy and ridiculous. We all know Morgan loves the 80s. Morgan loves, loves, loves the 80s. She has, like, 19 different numbers about different 80s.

B (30:15)

Anyways, we can see the comments here. Jacob, go ahead. Sorry.

A (30:16)

Designing Women, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I think. I think this is great. Could the cants. Could the pants be reined in a little bit to give a little more fashion? Yes. But I like the whole aesthetic. I love the hair. I love the jacket. I love the big purse. You love a purse?

B (30:31)

I didn't say I hate it because of the purse. The pants are a little clown town. And also maybe if they weren't so wavy or if it was wavy with intention. Um, But I do from the waist up. I like bodice up. This look is great. I love her hair. I love her makeup. I love this color block jacket. I think she looks really, really, really good.

A (30:54)

Uh, someone said.

B (30:57)

Someone said no her name, but look how small it is.

A (31:02)

Cause you could Dan or Danger Art.

B (31:04)

No, it's Diamond Love Bug. I'm looking Dan.

A (31:07)

He said Lucky went home on a design challenge, actually, but.

B (31:10)

But I think her designs are really good, though. I personally think they're really good. Diamond Love Bug says now Morphine design skills ain't all that. That's crazy. I think Morphine's design skills are good.

A (31:20)

What does she design? As you know of?

B (31:21)

On the RuPaul's Drag Race, I'm not following her off the season, but on Drag Race, I thought she did, but

A (31:25)

I don't think Morphine did well in design challenge.

B (31:27)

I thought she did well, and I think she's better than Morgan. Now what? Let's move on to dawn, who I'm gonna say is my pick to win the season. Dawn is so unique. I have not seen anyone do drag like this, and this is immaculate. I feel like dawn, on her season, was a really good designer, but she was missing just a little bit. But I feel like she has garnered the design skills because I like. Like she did with on the Pit Stop. Was that with you?

A (31:58)

Yeah.

B (31:58)

And I'm watching her document the whole thing. It ate.

A (32:02)

Well, she. I don't think. I don't even. I don't even agree with that. I just think that she just happened to be on a season with someone who was just. But, like, she was on a season with Q. Q is a stunning designer, so Q just kept on besting her.

B (32:14)

That's true.

A (32:14)

Like, and I. I think Dawn's designs were amazing. Her season, I don't think she had to change much. She just. She just unfortunately had someone who was just a little better than her.

B (32:21)

But I think she has gotten better. Like, I've been. I've also been following her design stuff online. I watched one thing. I'm acting like I literally watched one thing because you were in it. I was like, honey, I followed her. No, I watched one video, but watch. I think what it was is watching her make it on that video. I was like, this. No, this is like, I. So, like, I can't make a. A dress like a. A cocktail dress. This is like backing, interfacing. Yeah, yeah. She's ironing on.

A (32:47)

Overlocking, interstitching, Interviewing all the things.

B (32:49)

Yeah, interstitials. It was. It was. It's really impressive. And I think her, her design perspective is just so unique.

A (32:56)

Yes. Always this like weird, nymphy creature, alien goddess things and I, I think it looks really great. Her close up. I think she looks like beautiful. They. They did her right in the edit and again, there are some little tweaks I think they could have done to make it better, but I think she looks great. I think she looks stunning. And I'm excited to see dawn this season as well.

B (33:12)

Yeah. And she is low key. The Confessional Shade Queen.

A (33:14)

Oh, she's really good at confessionals.

B (33:20)

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A (36:23)

I have a question. Does it have to be so cold in here?

B (36:27)

Sometimes you say it's hot in here.

A (36:29)

I never say that. I always say it is too cold in here. I am.

B (36:31)

Would you like for us to adjust?

A (36:32)

I am shivering. Yes. Thank you.

B (36:35)

Any other. Any other requests?

A (36:37)

My request. I want to talk about this amazing entrance look.

B (36:39)

This is so good.

A (36:40)

Good. She's a very talented queen. I can't wait to see her this season.

B (36:44)

If I. If I have to. If I have to pick hairs.

A (36:48)

Split hairs.

B (36:48)

The split hairs, the. This, this like ribbon around the top and the titties looks a little like uneven or odd in a way. Yeah, but that's if I have to split hairs. You know what I mean? Otherwise this look is so good. She's so unique. I've. I've never seen a queen like this. The only thing is I fear that she is going to suffer in the department when it comes to performance.

A (37:10)

I was gonna say, did she. How did she do in the acting and funny stuff? I forget.

B (37:13)

Well, she got sent home with morphine in a lip sync and she's back in the same bracket as morphine.

A (37:19)

So was she batting acting challenges?

B (37:21)

She was fine. She was Dawn's whole Issue. Her whole season was. She was.

A (37:26)

Was fine, right?

B (37:28)

That was her issue the whole season. I mean. Yeah, she's fine. She was fine. I'm hoping that her performance skills gotten better again. I've watched one YouTube video of her, so I haven't tracked her. I don't act like I'm, like. I'm Like, I'm the leading dawn historian, so I don't know. I don't know if her performance has gotten better. I don't know. I don't see her being the next lip sync assassin.

A (37:48)

I don't see that for her either.

B (37:49)

Let's go into Akira. What does the C stand for?

A (37:53)

Chanel Davenport.

B (37:54)

No.

A (37:54)

Yeah.

B (37:54)

I kind of want to be camp if the C stood for nothing. No, because I carry a Chanel. I carry a Chanel.

A (38:01)

Oh, I carry a Chanel. Oh, wow. My God.

B (38:06)

I never.

A (38:06)

I never got that until this. Thank you, Jacob, for that.

B (38:08)

Six seasons later.

A (38:09)

Six. Is it six? No, she's on season 11, bitches.

B (38:15)

Eighteen. So seven later.

A (38:17)

Seven later. Wow.

B (38:18)

Yeah. Yeah.

A (38:19)

I mean, listen, A', Keria, I feel like she does not get her.

B (38:23)

Her.

A (38:23)

Her flowers for being the amazing designer that she is. Have you seen the things that a' keria makes?

B (38:27)

Yeah. Online is Akira. I've seen it on Drag Race.

A (38:31)

Yeah, true, but. So she makes, like, a' keria, does pageant stuff all year round. She's doing balls and stuff, and the stuff she creates is really, really, really immaculate. So I hope. I want her to get her flowers as being. As being on the level of all these fucking other designer girls from.

B (38:43)

Well, the issue is that she's not a big personality, so that's why. So, like, some of these. So, like. Like, someone like. Well, let's say, like, Nymphia win. Not a huge person, but she won the season, so she's gonna get all the stars. You know what I mean? But that being. Who else gets. Who else gets a lot of accolades for. For being a good designer? I was literally named one person. Jade Essence Hall. Jade Essence Hall. But she won. Yeah, but she won. But she won the season again. She won a season. You know what I mean?

A (39:12)

Yeah.

B (39:13)

She's the most winning season girl over in the history of RuPaul's Drag Race.

A (39:17)

Yeah, she has the most lip sync wins.

B (39:18)

No, the most challenge.

A (39:19)

Challenge wins.

B (39:20)

Yeah, the most challenge.

A (39:21)

Yeah. I think Akira is great. Akira is so suddenly beautiful, and she is. The body.

B (39:25)

It's her third time.

A (39:26)

Her body is insane. Her ass is crazy. She is. Her body is stacked.

B (39:31)

This is Akira's third time doing RuPaul's Drag Race. I have seen a lot of growth between this and her original season. I feel like there's a ton of growth. There are times when I literally can't even recognize her because her is her. Her growth has been huge.

A (39:44)

Yeah.

B (39:45)

I don't love this interest look, though. The bottom is a little wonky for me. It's a little wonky.

A (39:51)

It's a little wonky, but only when she moves. When she was still,

B (39:58)

unfortunately, we had to walk her, watch her walk in and walk out, and it looks like. It looks like she has a pool noodle on top of those feathers.

A (40:04)

She looks like. She looks like something from a Dr.

B (40:06)

Seuss book a little bit. Yeah.

A (40:08)

Like.

B (40:08)

Like. Like she from the truffle tree.

A (40:10)

Yeah. Let's go into Bracket 2 to Crystal Met head Otis. Is Crystal. Is. Is she one of the. Is she one of the artsiest queens we have?

B (40:19)

Yeah, we have her. Her and dawn in one season, which is going to be pretty.

A (40:22)

And that's the same bracket, though.

B (40:24)

Lucky stars, dawn and Crystal. We got a lot of club kitty girls.

A (40:28)

Yeah. I love Crystal Method. I love being on the road with Crystal Method. She is such a fun person. She. She minds her business. She is not confrontational. She is as sweet as cherry pie.

B (40:40)

But how's it gonna work out in the competition of. In the. In the competition of All Star Survivor

A (40:44)

Challenge, Ginger Mitchell's competition, she won, but

B (40:46)

she stayed in the top. Is Crystal gonna stay in the top, Chris, Jimmy.

A (40:50)

To stop through her season.

B (40:51)

She sure did.

A (40:52)

She sure did.

B (40:53)

She sure did.

A (40:53)

And I think this. This promo look is dope. I don't think we've ever seen anything like it in. Ever.

B (40:59)

She's so unique. Crystal Method is another queen who is so unique. I've never seen a queen like her ever. They tried to compare her, her daughter's sister, to her.

A (41:08)

Oh, diabetic. And they're literally nothing alike.

B (41:12)

No, they're not much alike. There was a brief moment where they kind of had a similar bip bop boop. But she's so unique. She looks incredible, by the way. I challenge you. I challenge you to follow her makeup tutorial. I dare you. You will lose your mind.

A (41:28)

Is it crazy?

B (41:29)

Monet, you will become unwell.

A (41:32)

I'll try it, but the one I followed, her original one from her original season.

B (41:36)

Yeah. I think she posted during her season. It will.

A (41:38)

On her page.

B (41:39)

I reckon so. Yeah.

A (41:40)

I'll try it.

B (41:40)

It will break your brain. It will. It will undo you. That being said, this look I Have literally not a single note for this look. She looks incredible.

A (41:50)

It looks like something from like a. From like a Top Model photo shoot, to be honest.

B (41:53)

No, for real.

A (41:54)

Like, and the close up shot, licking that lollipop, it's so good. And I just love Crystal. Always thinks about her drag from head to toe. Shit. And I really love.

B (42:04)

Wow. Naomi gonna sue the fuck out of you. Don't ever, don't ever say Naomi's things again.

A (42:08)

I just love Crystal and her drag.

B (42:09)

Let's go into her promo look.

A (42:11)

I mean, her interest look.

B (42:12)

I mean, her interest look. I love this look. God damn, this queen is so, so. I think she's just so special.

A (42:17)

I like this look.

B (42:19)

I love it.

A (42:20)

It was a little wild.

B (42:20)

I was like, I love it.

A (42:22)

But that's Crystal, though. Like, I'm like, she's just like being swallowed by this costume. I think it's a little wild, but I do enjoy her. So I like her whimsy. Have you ever seen her Winnie the Pooh? Slutty Winnie the Pooh costume? No, she has a slutty Winnie the Pooh costume.

B (42:37)

Slutty Winnie the Pooh.

A (42:38)

Yes. It's so good.

B (42:40)

Crystal Method, I gotta tell you right now, this is truly a queen who is really genuinely marching to the beat of her own drum. She is doing her own thing. She do not care what the other girl. Oh, so this is. Oh, this is it.

A (42:54)

Oh, on Murray and Peter.

B (42:55)

This is wild. This is wild. Crystal Method is super unique. Where is she? I get it. Where is she? Where is she storing this drag?

A (43:06)

I know. Cause all of her drag is big. Huge, huge drag, girl. I got my little dresses and I'm like, I'm running out of space. I can imagine.

B (43:15)

Yeah. Someone said.

A (43:18)

I can't. What did someone say?

B (43:19)

It's gone. I can't remember who it was. Someone said, Crystal, one of our patrons said, Crystal is the one to beat.

A (43:25)

Somebody said, pop, you have got to get it together with this.

B (43:28)

Somebody said, well, then you read it. Blossom13 said, Crystal is the one to be RuPaul's favorite. Fan favorite. And different people, the fans always think

A (43:38)

they know who RuPaul's favorites are.

B (43:39)

RuPaul makes it pretty clear.

A (43:41)

There are some.

B (43:41)

I think, Jorgeous, I would like to adopt you.

A (43:43)

I think, I think, I think Lawrence

B (43:45)

Chaney, you are my favorite person.

A (43:47)

The favorites we've seen of Laurent, Jorgeous and Gottm Got Mick was a favorite.

B (43:52)

Off camera.

A (43:53)

No, no. I feel like season 13, he loved GoT Mick, but I feel like when

B (43:56)

we saw her at The Emmys and she let Got Mick film her. I was like, with a filter on her face, I said, this is crazy. We would have been clubbed like baby seals. Let's move on to Selena Estee.

A (44:07)

Friends of the pods.

B (44:08)

You'll love her. She's Selena. Let's go. You know, zoomed out. I like this makeup. Zoomed in is kind of crazy. Okay. I will also say she's one of the ones who's a retoucher. Did specifically dirty. Like, they could have really helped her out in a way that I feel like. I don't know.

A (44:27)

I feel like they could have retouched

B (44:28)

this more, I think.

A (44:28)

I think so, too. I think. I think this retouching is a bad job. Even, like, on the lip, like, they could have, like, smooth on the left side. They could have even smoothed that out. Like, I think, like, what?

B (44:38)

I love this wig. I love the wig is everything. I think she looks genuinely really stunning

A (44:44)

and a glow up from her season. Do you agree with.

B (44:46)

No, for sure, 100%.

A (44:47)

Yeah.

B (44:48)

100%. She's definitely like her, y'. All. You saw the pro. You saw the fashions on her season.

A (44:55)

That light.

B (44:55)

I'm going to go ahead and say, honestly, Selena s titties is from her original season. I'm going to say it the worst dressed queen in the history of Drag Race. I genuinely think. I actually genuinely think that from her original season, Bob.

A (45:10)

The worst dressed queen of RuPaul's Drag. Are you fucking kidding me?

B (45:13)

Then who is it? It.

A (45:14)

It's not Selena. I've definitely thought people had way worse

B (45:16)

fashion, but you can't give anyone this

A (45:18)

because you only think about the one look.

B (45:20)

No, the street light one look. It's. The whole package was bad because, you know, it made me realize it during the thing she talked about her bad passions and they showed all of her. Like, they showed a. A montage of her looks. She was the first one was so bad, they created the golden boot for her. So you think her package was worse than Serena Chacha's? I do. I do, genuinely. Yeah.

A (45:45)

That's a crazy statement to say, Bob. That's crazy.

B (45:48)

I said what I said.

A (45:49)

I will say I do think her street sign look was. Is probably in top three worst looks on Drag Race. But overall package, when she did the Grammy one, when she had the Grammy

B (46:00)

Awards, when she did you call out one or two.

A (46:02)

Her entrance look was a good look. Her finale look on her season was a good look. Look the cake like Selena's like, the above. The work that's crazy. Come on.

B (46:12)

I said what I said. But she looks beautiful here. And I don't feel. And I. And I believe that very firmly. She looks absolutely, genuinely stunning. And I do see a massive, massive grown up. She said she was known for confessionals. I'm like, you're known for your bad fashion. Oh, my God. She is known for a bad fashion.

A (46:31)

Okay.

B (46:31)

But she also had some iconic conduction. Like Free Willy was a great moment. Free Willy was a great moment.

A (46:35)

Great one.

B (46:36)

She's known for her bad fashion.

A (46:38)

Can we go into our interest look, Jacob, which I think was particularly stunning in this episode. She dressed up as her golden. She looks like a million dollars beautiful.

B (46:46)

God, she looks stunning.

A (46:49)

Yeah. This hair is great. I love that she's referencing herself with the golden boot. The dress is a golden boot thing with. She's wearing golden boots. This white blonde Marilyn is sexy. I think Selena looks amazing in this entrance looks.

B (47:03)

Yeah. Ah, this looks so good. Everything. I. I don't know if she's. I don't know if she's like, let that designer from before redeem himself or if she's like, it's a rap.

A (47:11)

He wasn't her designer. He was her. He wasn't designing them.

B (47:16)

Art director or something.

A (47:17)

Yeah, he. He was her overall artist.

B (47:18)

Is she still with that guy?

A (47:19)

I don't think so.

B (47:20)

O. I don't what.

A (47:22)

You stay with him.

B (47:27)

Let's move on. Up next, we have.

A (47:32)

Mother has arrived.

B (47:34)

I gotta say, watching this promo was genuinely emotional for me. Like, she genuinely. When I saw her impact and how they're saying, mother has arrived. And she's been quoted. They counted up. She has been quoted in every season of Drag Race. She's been quoted in international seasons. When she went on the show, she was 21 years into drag. She is now 30. 34 years into. She started drag when you were 2 years old.

A (48:03)

Damn.

B (48:03)

Vivacious started drag when you were 2 and years old. She, by the way, and looking young.

A (48:10)

Yeah. I think Vivacious looks really good.

B (48:12)

I think Vivacious has to be almost 60. Can we Google vivacious age? She has to be almost 60 by now.

A (48:18)

I wish she didn't wear that thing with over her eyebrows.

B (48:22)

We can critique her look pretty soon. Soon.

A (48:24)

52. Why did you say 60?

B (48:26)

Because she was a drag for 32 years. We started when she was three.

A (48:29)

20.

B (48:30)

52 minus 32. 52 minus 32 is what?

A (48:35)

20? No, 52 minus 30 is 20.

B (48:39)

52 minus 32 is 18.

A (48:41)

52 minus 32 is 20. Babes.

B (48:43)

It's 20 yes. I guess you can start at 20. What are you.

A (48:47)

What are you on?

B (48:48)

18. How you get two? I think 18. That was incorrect. That was Google. It says she was 40 on season six. That was 13 years ago. Yeah. So she's 53, Bob, man. She's 53. Now, now, now, let's critique her. I. This outfit is amazing. The only issue is this headpiece was not designed in conjunction with the makeup. It was not like, you're. You have a third of your eyebrows in here.

A (49:15)

And she should have just not. She should have just not put eyebrows on.

B (49:18)

No eyebrows.

A (49:19)

That would have, like, helped a lot of this.

B (49:21)

I agree.

A (49:22)

I think that the dress, overall, it's very vivacious.

B (49:26)

I love it. I love this dress. Genuinely. I love this.

A (49:29)

I love the headpiece a lot. I think the headpiece is really, like, a great way to call back to our nation.

B (49:32)

You know, she makes this stuff. She's one of the girls who sews down. Like, she makes those huge spikes. Have you seen these videos of her performing in nightgowns?

A (49:40)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (49:41)

She makes really, like, architectural feats.

A (49:44)

Yeah, well, I mean, so in her bracket, Crystal's also a really good seamstress as well. I don't know if she makes all her stuff, but she. I know she's a good seamstress, so, yeah, I think that Vivacious is going to be. Do I think Vivacious is winning season 18, season 11? No. But I do think she is going to be a nice way to bring her back and to hopefully the fans can. Nicole Page Brooks.

B (50:06)

Her mother has arrived. Ariana Grande. Even Ariana Grande said it. Even Glinda the Good Witch said it. This interest look. I love this look. I just wish that she could find a way to. You know what it is?

A (50:17)

What I.

B (50:18)

Well, is it this? Her? She's so Club Kitty, but her makeup is not. Her makeup is, like, just like, typical glamour day drag. I wish that she did, like, Club Kitty makeup.

A (50:27)

Yeah, I agree. But maybe she doesn't have the skills to do it. She's like, I'm not gonna make myself look, like, look the fool.

B (50:32)

But she can make these. She can make. If you can learn to make this architectural digestion garment, you can learn to fucking do a little crazy makeup.

A (50:41)

No, Bob, Makeup is, like, a skill that people really struggle with. Like, makeup is not easy for everyone to do.

B (50:47)

Why the fuck would you look at me when you said that? Why the fuck would you look at me when you said that? That was actually crazy.

A (50:54)

I will say. Do you think we're gonna get onation. Every single Runway. I can't handle it.

B (50:59)

Well, we didn't get in the promo.

A (51:00)

We didn't get in the promo. Her headpiece was a porcelain force. Onatia.

B (51:02)

What? Go back.

A (51:03)

What do you mean?

B (51:04)

That. That thing.

A (51:04)

That's Onisha head on her head.

B (51:05)

Oh, so now. So now you're Michelle.

A (51:07)

I'm not Michelle. I'm just saying, are we gonna see? Are we gonna.

B (51:11)

And what if we do?

A (51:12)

I can't. I don't want to see it every Runway. We've seen it in the promo. We've seen the entrance look. I'll. I'll. I'll accept it one more time. If I see it in every single Runway, I'm over. I'm over it.

B (51:20)

I'm not over it.

A (51:21)

Okay.

B (51:22)

I think Onish is iconic.

A (51:23)

She's iconic.

B (51:23)

More iconic than you.

A (51:24)

More iconic than me, for sure.

B (51:26)

Or onat is an icon.

A (51:27)

I still want to see the Runway.

B (51:28)

I think she looks. I love this look. I just wish her makeup was a little bit different, but I just love this look so much. And the fact that she can sell this stuff is so cool. Let's go on to April. Carry on. I'm just going to say it looks like. It looks like she's in a wheelchair. She looks like Professor X, not Governor Hot Wheels girl. She looks like Professor X. Tell me I'm lying.

A (51:47)

She got this no closer for her. Yeah. There's no close up weird at all. Oh. At all.

B (51:53)

Muy intresante.

A (51:54)

April. Carry on is so fucking sexy. In drag, out of drag. I've seen her perform a few times in Mickey's WeHo. She's always so sexy and slithery and, like, she just oozes sex appeal. Her original. She had some cool ones. She had the. The rain one. That was like, a really iconic Runway for her.

B (52:13)

Yeah. She said, I'm known for my umbrella.

A (52:15)

Umbrella.

B (52:15)

I asked a friend, I said, do you think you hit me with apricaron? He was like, nah, she wouldn't be interested.

A (52:20)

Who's the friend? Tell me. Work.

B (52:24)

She was like, no, she won't be interested.

A (52:25)

I was like, oh, work.

B (52:28)

I really. By the way, you realize when we do this, they can still hear us.

A (52:31)

Oh.

B (52:33)

Oh, wait. Did they? The live heard it.

A (52:35)

Oh,

B (52:40)

but yeah, I mean, go back to her promo look again, please. I think it's. Yeah, it looks good. It's not breathtaking by any strokes. Imagination. Yeah, but it is good. It's a little. It's little Marco. Marco. Marco. Circa 2016. Yeah.

A (52:55)

I can see That I see what you're saying, but this is cool. She looks. She looks like ocean or is Oshun the sun God? Whichever one is the water God that a lot of these celebrities depict, like Beyonce and Beerus and all of them. She looks like she's like a water goddess. And she's like the water barrier carrier bearing water. I think she looks otherworldly. This hair is interesting in the front. Is it a mullet?

B (53:21)

Yeah. I'm not super into this look. I don't hate it. I don't hate this look, but I'm not like, into it like this. This doesn't do a lot for me, to be honest. This leaves a lot to be desired.

A (53:32)

When she was walking, I think it was very hot. No, like all the things blushing and you can see her body, the silhouette.

B (53:37)

To me, this leaves a lot to be desired. It's not particularly interesting to me. I think that it looks a little artsy and crafty at the top. It looks like she went down to Michael's and grabbed some, like, starfish, dried up star, like dehydrated starfish and shells and threw them on her body. I don't love it. That being said, she is really beautiful. She said that she was. She was. She was the first queen to say I was meant to win All Stars too. Well, they didn't happen. They didn't cast her in 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10. But she is back for All Stars 11. And she can finally make that promise come true. That was. She. She made this promise 14 years ago. She promised us 14 years ago she was gonna win All Stars too. And now is her chance to actually make it happen.

A (54:24)

Do you think they asked that she turned it down or she just wasn't or. Or she just didn't want to do it.

B (54:30)

One. I don't know. I mean, I know she lives in Puerto Rico for a while, but now she's. I think she's in la. But also Queens live everywhere. Queens live in Queens live for Queens. I think have a Queens come from Alaska. Denali come from Alaska?

A (54:41)

No, she's in Chicago. She's born in Alaska.

B (54:43)

Oh, oh, know. Didn't Cordiat come from Australia?

A (54:47)

She was living in LA when she did it.

B (54:49)

Oh, well, obviously, I don't know.

A (54:51)

The Vivian did come from.

B (54:52)

There we go.

A (54:53)

She did the uk.

B (54:54)

So, yeah. Let's move on to your sister, the cringe icon.

A (55:02)

I want to say this. Can you not do this all season long?

B (55:04)

What do you mean, Bob?

A (55:06)

Please.

B (55:06)

What?

A (55:07)

Can you not do this all season long?

B (55:09)

Do you review the show? Can you not be this extra?

A (55:12)

Do this whole thing with Ormayari, Please. I can't.

B (55:20)

So ridiculous. Ora Mayori has acknowledged that she is the cringe queen. She says, yes, I am your cringe queen. I now accept it. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna ask a genuine question. Do you think you're part of that?

A (55:32)

No, I don't.

B (55:34)

You genuinely don't think you were any part of her being called a cringe queen?

A (55:38)

I do not think I. I'm. I'm. Jacob, please. I don't think I was part of that.

B (55:47)

Well, she's accepted it now. She's like, yeah, I am. I am the cringe queen. Like, I am the cringe queen. But someone said, j for pay. Said, y' all bullied aura so hard. She had to. She had to apologize in her confessional. Do you want to take any part in that?

A (56:06)

Can you?

B (56:07)

I.

A (56:07)

No, I don't.

B (56:08)

I would like to move on. I think you said all season, it's just this episode.

A (56:12)

No, I don't think that I was part of. I mean, I think I said a thing, but I was not the only one. You said she was cringey too.

B (56:17)

No, you were really.

A (56:18)

Also, Naomi said she was cringey as well.

B (56:20)

So how. How, How. I'm asking about your part in this. I'm not. When a cop pulls you over, you didn't go, he was speeding. Yeah, I do. You got pulled over. If a cop. I said, he was spitting in front of me, but you got pulled over. I think that I miss. I'm sad that she says now she says she's not flexing. You ruined it for us. Now we don't get to fucking look at R Mari flexing because you flexing.

A (56:38)

I'm sure if you DM'd her, she'll send you a flexing video. You may not have a chance of Ava. Carry on. I think you have a chance at rm.

B (56:44)

No, because of you. I can't now because of you. You done fucked it up for me.

A (56:48)

So now you know how I feel about Rihanna and Beyonce and everyone else. That being said, this promo look is very cumbersome. She looks. She's added, like, 20 pounds to herself.

B (57:00)

This look is amazing. Are you doing a bit?

A (57:06)

I'm not doing a bit. I think Bob Mara Mayor is not the size this is making. This is adding, like, 20 pounds to her.

B (57:12)

She looks like a fucking warrior. This look is literally amazing. I love this look. This Is my top five looks of the promos. Top five easy.

A (57:26)

I think she looks beautiful. I think she look. She's stunning in the face, but I just don't like how the bulk this adds to her. And I think it makes a little look like a sumo wrestler.

B (57:35)

Can I read this? Tam Tam Rose says J for Pay must be fucking Bob because his comments get read every stream. J4Pay just has really good comments.

A (57:47)

Are you fucking J4Pay?

B (57:48)

No. No. I mean, I probably would. I got a pretty wide palette. I'm probably into whatever you got going on, to be honest. But J4Pay just makes really funny comments.

A (57:57)

Sorry, Johnny Tsunami 420 said these two bullies are you who bullied RMR. Right. The thing is that Bob is acting like he did not comment just as much as I did about R. Marari. You were in on Barbie more than me.

B (58:13)

I. Okay, well, I'm gonna go back to praising her. This look is amazing. I genuinely love this look. I love this staff. I love this headpiece. Her makeup looks absolutely stunning. I'm so sad that I will not get to see her flexing genuinely because I like looking at her body because it's hot. I think this looks really fudgeing good. Like, genuinely. This looks really good.

A (58:31)

Yeah. I mean, again, I think her face looks great. I just don't like the book. Again, I acknowledge that this is a cool outfit. I just think it just. It just adds weight to her that she doesn't need. And because she's. She's. She's looks great without that.

B (58:42)

Jay's probably a white twink. I don't know anything about Jay for Pay. If Jay for Pay was in this room right now, I literally wouldn't know who he was. This looks amazing. Her intro look is so good. This is epic. She looks fucking stunning.

A (58:57)

I do. Like, again, I do. I love her makeup. I think, oh, my God. Might have some of my favorite makeup this weekend. This. This season. I'm trying to figure out how these girls do this, like, white here. It's like, I think I have been trying to do it, and I cannot accomplish it. She does it so well. Corey King does it very well. I need to ask these girls how to do it. I want to learn how to do that. See how, like, again, it's probably a combination of adding a very light highlight. Like, this zone is so light. I love that. When I can't do it yet, DM

B (59:27)

her and ask her.

A (59:27)

Actually, I should be comfortable. We. I think we're. I don't think I Don't think. I think she blocked me.

B (59:32)

I'm not blocked. Or assuming. I'm flexing videos now. This look is so good. We have Silky, not Meganage, back for the fourth time. They are acting like she did not do Canada. All Canada versus the world. You're World of Wonder. You're not gonna gaslight me.

A (59:45)

Wait, wait. What?

B (59:46)

They always show everyone's intro looks.

A (59:48)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

B (59:48)

And somehow, is she, like, third? They're acting like she. This didn't do Canada. You were a finalist. You were top two against your sister. Raja, can we not. Y' all about to. Y', all, it ain't that far away. I got wild. Plus, I saw. I didn't see it.

A (60:03)

I don't, but I.

B (60:03)

But I could.

A (60:04)

Do you. Do you know the drama about this? This interest look? No, she had another interest look made. So she made. She got a designer. I'm piecing it together for what?

B (60:13)

I said looks like Patrick Howell. No, Patrick. It looks like Patrick Howell.

A (60:16)

She got a designer to make in Houston, and Mistress was somehow connected, and then she couldn't, so she was leaving.

B (60:22)

Mistress always in some fucking drama. God damn, bitch.

A (60:25)

The designer didn't make the dress in time. So when she gets to Drag Race, she's like calling Mistress. She's like, hey, girl, I'm here filming thing. I need you to get in touch with my designer to get my dress to me. So now Mistress.

B (60:38)

So now Mistress is her manager.

A (60:40)

Mistress, right? So Mistress is calling Roll of Wanda. She's on the phone with Rolan Wanda. Like, hey, I'm trying to get to Silky's dress. Mistress is like, I don't know why I'm. All of a sudden, I'm Silky's manager trying to get her dressed to the end.

B (60:49)

Why would she agree? I would be like, bitch, this is not. I ain't got nothing to do with your. I would have been like, well, I mean, if it was you, I would do it.

A (60:56)

Yeah.

B (60:57)

Are Mistress and Silky that close?

A (60:59)

She lives in Texas. Maybe they've become close over the year. Over the years, I went and got your crown.

B (61:03)

You never thanked me. I picked up your crown and scepter. I did. I drove to World of Wonder, grabbed it with my hands, and then drove it to your home.

A (61:13)

Okay.

B (61:14)

Can you acknowledge that I did that?

A (61:15)

I don't remember that. But if you did do, I'm sure I thanked you when you did it.

B (61:19)

We also dropped stuff off for you

A (61:21)

from All Stars, didn't we? What? I also recorded an episode of a show for 12 hours yesterday. Because I love you so much.

B (61:29)

Yeah.

A (61:29)

It wasn't yesterday, whatever day it was.

B (61:31)

And you were paid. When did you not fill out the paperwork?

A (61:35)

I did, but how much I gotta pay? Was. Was it worth my.

B (61:37)

It was in your contract.

A (61:38)

I didn't get a contract.

B (61:40)

In my opinion, it was more than you should ever be fucking.

A (61:41)

I agreed to do it because you asked me to do it.

B (61:43)

I signed paperwork. That's the contract, bitch. You signed paperwork?

A (61:46)

I signed a W9. It didn't have numbers on. I did not sign anything besides what I signed on set.

B (61:50)

In my opinion, it's more than you should be getting paid.

A (61:52)

And when I had you doing my show, more than a slumber party, I paid you very handsomely.

B (61:57)

You did not. It was four figures, bitch.

A (61:59)

Oh, so.

B (61:59)

Oh, so. No, it was not for Monet dogs.

A (62:02)

No.

B (62:02)

For what?

A (62:03)

Slumber party, bitch.

B (62:05)

Yeah, it was not four figures.

A (62:06)

It was four figures.

B (62:07)

Well, I'll post receipt.

A (62:09)

Please. Please post it.

B (62:10)

Don't play games with me.

A (62:10)

I dare you.

B (62:11)

Don't play games with me. Post what you mean on summer party? You need to drop out all aired out, huh?

A (62:15)

Post what you mean on summer party?

B (62:16)

You differently Mulligan, you know, he's over at no Rolls Barred.

A (62:20)

Now wait, he left. He did not leave dropout.

B (62:23)

He didn't. Well, he does. He does game.

A (62:26)

Game mastering or game mortaring, their version of thing?

B (62:30)

No, game master. What do you. Game master. Game whatever. For Norrels Bar.

A (62:35)

So does he not do Dimension 20 anymore?

B (62:37)

I don't know. No, he still does Dimension 20. I'm pretty sure. I don't know.

A (62:41)

Anyway.

B (62:41)

Anyway, why is Mistress involved?

A (62:44)

So then. So Mistress is connecting with World War I and trying to get this thing to silky. The outfit didn't come. So then Silky just happens to have this backup one and she's like. Well, I guess the designer didn't make my thing. So I'm just gonna wear this backup pink one, which I think is great. Again, it's not like the most stunning thing that she has, but it's fine. Fine.

B (63:01)

Yeah. I don't. Can we go back. Can we go back to the look J so we can talk about it? I don't. It's fine. It looks like Patrick Howell, but like not Patrick Howell, like finale. Like Patrick Howell. Like interest look. Yeah, she looks pretty. Silky almost always looks pretty.

A (63:15)

She also lost a lot of weight

B (63:16)

as well, so it looks good. That shoe does not match that outfit.

A (63:20)

I mean, it matches. It's just, you know me. I want a shoe. If you want a catsuit the shoe needs to be incorporated into the whole thing. I hate that. Break it. It'll drive me crazy every time and I'll never get over it.

B (63:30)

Let's go into her entrance look. So for entrance look, I feel like

A (63:34)

this looks a little crazy.

B (63:35)

This black underneath.

A (63:37)

No, it's not over. It's not underneath. It's part. It's all one thing.

B (63:40)

Oh, it's one, Yeah. I don't hate this, but I don't love it. She looks good. That's the answer. She looks. I don't think opening that coat. That reveal was not necessary. This big. She like Cookie Monster coming out. And again, I said it was big. I said a reveal should be one of three things. Sickening, naked or hilarious. This is neither of those things. This is fine. She looks good. This did not need a reveal.

A (64:03)

My problem with silky, sometimes her hair always looks like it's been ran through a little bit. Like she always. Her hair, to me, always looked like she sucked dick. She just fucked.

B (64:11)

She fucks in drags, right?

A (64:12)

She fucks in drag, yeah. So it looked like she got fucked in this wig. And then she was like, oh, I got an All Stars tomorrow. And then went on the Runway.

B (64:22)

She said something I don't understand. Welcome to the ruders of not only silky nutmeg ganache, but D nutmeg. What did that mean? Can anyone tell me what that I had to rewind it back and write. Welcome to the rivers of.

A (64:38)

Rewind it back, please.

B (64:39)

Silky nutmeg ganache, but D nutmeg. I don't know what that meant. And she's. She's one of the poetry girls. She wanted my Angelou's a drag. Munch, munch, crunch, crunch. These girls don't want me or my can't take me or my lunch. She always got a poem. I don't love the poetry, but that being said, she is a pretty girl. They always say suck is a pretty girl. She is. But her drag, her outfits be sometimes hit or miss. Sometimes she will hit and it hits hard, but she misses hard too.

A (65:06)

Yeah, it looks like a glowed up ready to do so. I don't know if that means cmr.

B (65:12)

Let's go.

A (65:13)

Also the Velcro shirts on the outfit.

B (65:15)

When she took off her thing and said I was ready to do so.

A (65:18)

Oh, and the.

B (65:20)

Oh, it's a glowed up version of her Cookie Monster outfit from I was ready to do so. Yeah, I reckon so. So let's go on to Sugar Kane. This is the dirtiest close up they've done O. This is the dirtiest close up. They've done that.

A (65:31)

Close up is so disgusting.

B (65:33)

I thought they added laugh lines, honestly,

A (65:36)

like, they are so shady for that. Like, why did they do that to her?

B (65:40)

She is back for the. For the first time. She goes, I just want. I just want people to see Sugar Kane and love her and embrace her. I don't think that's a good, good tactic to have. I just want people to like me. Girl. Just want to do a good job. Like, are you here to just people to like you and want to embrace you? Like, what the hell? And she keeps saying, I'm aging in reverse. I'm getting younger. I'm getting younger. And to me, she looks the same age.

A (66:03)

I think. I mean, but. But she is. Her original season, she's.

B (66:08)

She was in her 40s.

A (66:09)

Yeah. And her original season, people don't realize, sis. I keep on saying, sza?

B (66:12)

S Kane. Citizen Kane.

A (66:14)

Sugar Cane was older. She was one of the older queens in the season. But she looks young, though. Like. Like she looks like she's a young queen. Is that a heart on her nose?

B (66:23)

Like she does a heart on her nose contour for the highlight on the. No, she has a heart. It's her. It's one of her things.

A (66:28)

Why?

B (66:28)

I don't know. It's her thing. I don't. This look is fine. This look is perfectly fine. This look is perfectly fine. They did a lot in the editing for this shawl or the scarf. Because ain't no way that scarf is doing all that. Ain't no good goddamn way that scarf is doing all that. Ain't no way that scarf fell like that. Ain't no way on God's green earth.

A (66:45)

That should put some energy into the close up. Cuz that close up is diabolical.

B (66:48)

That's. Let's go to her interest look. Her interest look is prettier.

A (66:54)

I love this hair. I love this. I would wear the out of this.

B (66:59)

Her interest look is prettier, but it. It's not blowing me away. But she looks good for an interest look. This is perfectly good. Is she black? She Puerto Rican or something? We'll talk about in current events.

A (67:12)

I saw that, the. The shenanig thing, right? So I was like. Yeah, I was like, guys, I think she's black. Oh, no, no, no, she's not. She's not.

B (67:21)

I think she's Puerto Rican.

A (67:23)

Well, that doesn't mean that she's not black.

B (67:25)

You're right. Because Puerto Rican's not a race. Thank you for clearing. Thank you for helping me. Clearly, I meant Taino. I thought she was Tino. Let's go on to Sam Star sugar cane walk. So cute. Could Sam Star is. Can I say something about Sam Starr?

A (67:43)

What?

B (67:45)

She has all the ingredients of a delicious winner. It's like you made all the ingredients of, like, a cake that I like, but for some reason, this one just tastes funny and I don't like it.

A (67:56)

I'm gonna say she has all the ingredients to be a villain. She's so villainess to me.

B (68:01)

Really?

A (68:01)

Yes. Sam Starr, I get, like, a villain, but, like, in a good Christian bitches kind of villain.

B (68:06)

Like Sharpay.

A (68:08)

Yes, like that villain. Like, that's what I feel like.

B (68:11)

Even this. This close up picture this looks like

A (68:14)

the villain shot in, like, a movie. Like the villain poster or the villain. Like, I'm gonna get you boys.

B (68:20)

In her defense, I might be comparing her to. I think I might just be constantly comparing her to a better version of herself, which isn't fair to her. I just can't look at her without seeing a little bit of Trinity. And Trinity is just such a good queen. Trinity is great tv.

A (68:35)

She's amazing.

B (68:36)

Trinity genuinely knows how to be good tv. Yeah, I don't think Sam Star does. There's never a problem with Sam Star. I just, like, all the ingredients are great, but somehow they got. Something went wrong. Maybe the oven wasn't preheated or maybe some salt fell in or something. I just don't, like. I don't know. I don't know.

A (68:57)

Yeah, this entrance look, I think this hair is interesting.

B (69:01)

This.

A (69:01)

And, you know, her original season, she wore so much of Trinity's drag. Did you realize this?

B (69:04)

Yeah, we talked about it.

A (69:05)

So I'm curious to see what we're gonna see in this iteration of her doing Drag Race again. But this interesting look. I mean, this promo look is interesting. I think it's fun, and I think it's different. I do love these. These star cuff airing thing. I think that's a nice callback to herself.

B (69:19)

Jenny Tsunami said, I'll never forget Naomi asking if she's religious because her drag screamed repressed. There's. Is she. Is she, like, Christian or something? That's. That's one. I don't know. I don't know if she is or not. Not. But I just remember Naomi said, is she, like, Christian or something? One of the funniest things ever said. I did like her line, I'm not just some star. I'm Sam Star. That was actually pretty cute.

A (69:38)

Now.

B (69:39)

Yeah. This. Let's start Interest look as hideous.

A (69:41)

That was online.

B (69:43)

This look up. Oh, this? Oh, it's the future. Fringe top and pants with silver sequin trim from this website.

A (69:49)

Is it literally just that charisma. Charisma. Charismatico.

B (69:52)

Oh, what is that, girl?

A (69:54)

It's the same outfit. 200. Corey King called it out.

B (69:58)

Oh, honey. Corey. But honestly, this is the journalism we need. Go off, honey.

A (70:03)

Go off. Who cares?

B (70:05)

Robin Quivers found. No, Robin Quivers in the journalism.

A (70:07)

Robin Givens. Forgive and forget.

B (70:09)

She's the journalist. No, the journalist. Robin Roberts.

A (70:12)

Robert Roberts.

B (70:13)

Robin Roberts found dead. This is the journalism we need. I don't like this look. She looks like Jessica Simpson, though.

A (70:19)

She looks like Jessica Simpson. Like, she, I mean, you know what? She's the one that wore and Andrews look real. She looks conservative. Cause she's like very Americana.

B (70:28)

Is she Christian or something? So even here, like, I get like.

A (70:32)

I don't know.

B (70:33)

I just feel like she's gonna call me a nigger. Can I I feel like she gonna call me a nigger. Sam, can you comment? Are you Christian? We wanna know.

A (70:40)

And would you call me at the N word?

B (70:41)

Let's move on to Hershey lacour Jete.

A (70:45)

I am so excited to see hershii lacour Jete back on my screen. I think that, you know, I don't know what to expect from her drag in terms of her, what she will do in challenges. But for something. I've met Hershey a few times around in different events and stuff, and I really like her energy, I like her as a person. So I'm excited to see now she's in a bracket where she can't get eliminated. What's she gonna do over a few challenges now? Do I think she's gonna blow me away? I don't think so, but I'm just excited to see her back on TV.

B (71:10)

Yeah, I, I, I'm excited to see Hershey LaCour Jatae back on the screen. I think this interest look is really, really good. I will say Hershey's one of those folks. The only thing about Hershey is that she doesn't seem like she cares if she wins or loses. That's not fun to watch. I want you to want to win. If you don't want to win, you're not, in my opinion, you're not funny. If you're here for a good time, if you hear what Sugar Kane says, just do. What did I write down for Sugar Cane? Sugar Kane said, I just want people to see Sugar Kane and love her and embrace her. I want you to just want to win the fucking competition and then I'll probably love and embrace you. You know what I mean?

A (71:42)

Well, I think a lot of girls, the stakes for winning are gone because I think that as Drag Race has gone on, people realize that winning is not. Winning is. Sorry. Losing is a new winning to the fucking song in the show. Like, I think that people are seeing a lot of success when they don't win the show. So the stakes of winning don't feel like, oh, if I don't win this. Like, I feel like in the earlier seasons, you're like, oh, if I don't win Drag Race, it's like curtains for me because I don't know if I'm coming back. And now people are coming back seven, eight, nine times. They're like, if I don't win, I'll just do another All Stars and I'll still work and I'll be booked so it doesn't feel like they have to win.

B (72:14)

Also, she said that girls, she thinks people have low expectations of her and she loves to prove a girl wrong. I love a queen who does drag just out of spite. You a girl on Drag Race out of spot. That is not why I did drag. Let's go to our interest look.

A (72:27)

I love this look.

B (72:28)

This look is so sickening. It's so great.

A (72:31)

Jones.

B (72:31)

It is so Keith Haring. It is so club. I will say one thing. I do wish that the eye makeup was somehow congruent with this keyhole in her mask. Maybe if the masks are going the other way and that makeup were going in that. Because the makeup is going in that direction.

A (72:47)

Yeah.

B (72:47)

But other than that. And that's just nitpicking. I love this look.

A (72:50)

I think this is really cool. I think I wouldn't expect this from her. She, to be honest. So it makes me really excited to see, like, what else she's gonna do this season. And yeah, I, I, I like this look a lot. I think it's Klaus. Nomi. Sorry, Nomi. Klaus. And all this, you said Grace Jones, all this kind of put together and I'm excited by her.

B (73:09)

It's not Klaus. Nomi.

A (73:10)

I think it's Nomi. Klaus.

B (73:11)

No, I think it's close to Jasmine Kennedy. Jasmine.

A (73:16)

The drama is here.

B (73:18)

The Jasmine Kennedy looks fantastic. I love this outfit. It's a, it's a little understated, but I love this, this like keyhole square thing she got going down her leg.

A (73:27)

Casey Caldwell did this.

B (73:29)

Casey Caldwell did this. Emmy award winning Casey Caldwell. Yeah. This is a great look. She looks phenomenal. I don't have a ton of notes for this, to be honest. I'm excited to see the drama she brings back.

A (73:40)

Who does she fight with?

B (73:42)

Something she said I thought was crazy. Everyone thinks I'm all about the look. Is that what she thinks everyone thinks about her? Everyone thinks I'm all about the look, but I'm also really silly. Do we think Jazz? When you think Jasmine, you're like, goddamn, this bitch is all about the look. Is that what you think about Jasmine Kennedy?

A (73:56)

No, no, no.

B (73:57)

I was like, I'm not crazy.

A (73:58)

I think she's all about the estrogen, honey.

B (74:00)

She said, I am. I am pumped up on estrogen and ready to go. Let's look at her entrance look. Can I say something controversial that I might get me canceled?

A (74:09)

What?

B (74:10)

The girls who have titties or wearing the titty bibs. We get it. It. I feel like if you wear a titty bib or if you have breasts, a lot of time the looks just be about the breasts. Like, it's just like you.

A (74:23)

You. You wish it was more than just just showing off the breasts. Yeah, I can see that.

B (74:28)

Because especially. Especially the titty bib girls. The titty bib girls. Like, like, like.

A (74:32)

Like Mia Starr.

B (74:33)

Who?

A (74:35)

Mia Star.

B (74:36)

Mia Star.

A (74:37)

Last season. Leah Star.

B (74:38)

I'm turning into RuPaul.

A (74:40)

Last season.

B (74:41)

Mia Starr. Got it. Florida, Mia Starr.

A (74:43)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (74:50)

I don't love this look. I don't like this look, and I don't like it. And also, I don't like it. On top of that,

A (74:58)

in this look, I love the hair. I love that she's giving us, like, hair fantasies. I do agree. I think that it's just about her being naked, and it's. It's a promo look. So if everything.

B (75:09)

It's not promo. It's just the entrance.

A (75:10)

I'm sorry. It's just the entrance look. So if everything from this point on is just about look at how naked I can be, I don't find that to be very exciting. So I hope you know, just because she's a trans baddie, that she. And she's really happy with presenting her body to the world. And I completely get that. I can't imagine how that feels when you look like what you feel like on the inside, on the outside. But I do want to give more of a fantasy and give us more drag, you know what I mean?

B (75:35)

There's got to be a way to show your breast and also look good. And this looks like you got some chains on your body. Neck up. Not a single note. Neck down. Not a single compliment.

A (75:47)

Damn.

B (75:47)

I can't think of one. I literally can't think of one compliment.

A (75:50)

So you. So you don't think her tits look good?

B (75:52)

They look fine. Yeah, they look good. Also, like, look at the way the drape of these beads are. That's the shape you want to give. This makes your midsection look the biggest.

A (76:01)

Yeah.

B (76:02)

And this bitch is skinny. The way these beads are draping is making your midsection look gigantic. And she is skinny as shit. That's crazy.

A (76:12)

Yeah, I would have. Yeah. You know, they have queens like Naomi and Plastique and Kari Colby to do a really good job of tricking the eye with their. With these like invisible corsets and stuff to give like, you know, more shape.

B (76:26)

Lauren loves Sinclair. Lauren, whatever her name is. Somebody said okay, but Bosco can always show body. And I'll never complain. It's because Bosco is finding really creative ways to show her breasts. Bosco is genuinely finding very beautiful, beautiful ways to show her breasts. This is not a beautiful way.

A (76:43)

You know what? Do you know what I want one of these girls to do? One of these two girls to do. Let's come on here and do the lady from Showgirls.

B (76:50)

Oh, the. Yeah. Let's move on to Joey J. Joey

A (76:56)

J is gay and she's my favorite queen this season. I want Joey J to win All Stars 18.

B (77:01)

I don't know what it is about Joey Jay. I love.

A (77:04)

Oh, you were saying this earlier, Queen. I didn't know you loved her too.

B (77:07)

I always so cunty to me, so. And also another woman voice. Joey J sounds like a cisgender woman. I. I don't know what it is about her. I fucking love this queen.

A (77:17)

She seems really cool. I'm obsessed.

B (77:20)

She's a great performer.

A (77:21)

I'm obsessed.

B (77:22)

She doesn't take herself too seriously, but she wants to win. Yeah.

A (77:25)

I'm obsessed with her. I think Joey Jay is so funny. I follow Joey J on social media and I think Joey J is even like her Instagram posts. I think they're very funny. I want Joy Jay to win. I love that Joy J is not giving us her little Eddie Izzard anymore. She's giving us the hair.

B (77:39)

Well, speaking of hair, let's go into her because this look is great.

A (77:43)

Also her close up look how close up her close up is even cunty.

B (77:45)

Yeah.

A (77:46)

Joey J is gay.

B (77:47)

Something about her is so kind. I don't know what it is. I love this look.

A (77:50)

I'm obsessed. I want her to win.

B (77:52)

I love it. Let's go to her intro's. Look, look, the hair. I love this. I love this slick back ponytail. Her face looks so beautiful. She looks like Brigitte Nielsen a little bit.

A (78:03)

I see that.

B (78:04)

This. I don't love this outfit.

A (78:06)

I don't love this outfit either, but

B (78:07)

I don't care because I. I'm. She's my Alyssa Edwards. She's my Alyssa Edwards. I don't care. I love this queen. Why do I love this queen? I know.

A (78:14)

I love her too. I'm rooting for her again. This outfit is rotted. I hope the rest of the ones this season it's not rotten. This is not my favorite and I think it's just. I don't know what I'm actually looking at. We have horns coming out the shoulders.

B (78:25)

Oh, this outfit is ugly. I'm gonna call it out. Lauren loves whatever says don't. Not to be dramatic, but I die for Joey J. I don't know what it is. Someone said it's the Johnny. I'm not reading the names. What's that? Johnny Tsunami said opposite of sugarcane Energy.

A (78:43)

Damn.

B (78:46)

Danny Danger part says, I love the neurodivergent bands.

A (78:51)

No. I'm rooting for Joey J. I'm excited to see what it's gonna do this season. Again from original season. I don't remember if Joey J is a particularly good designer or.

B (78:59)

Or good at anything.

A (79:00)

Good at anything. I don't remember.

B (79:01)

She might be.

A (79:02)

I don't remember.

B (79:02)

She's a really good dancer. Joy J's a really good dancer that

A (79:04)

I knew she did perform her. But I don't know about anything else, so I'm crossing my fingers. All she has is performance challenges so she makes it to the next bracket so I can get some more Joey Jay. I'm obsessed.

B (79:12)

Let's go on to our final queen back for the fourth time. Third time.

A (79:17)

Fifth time. No, she did her season.

B (79:20)

Yeah.

A (79:21)

All Stars 3. Yeah, she did A. She did A versus the world. No.

B (79:24)

Yeah, she did. UK. UK or Canada versus the world.

A (79:27)

Yeah, one of those versus the world. And then she did. I think she did an didn't she do two all Stars?

B (79:33)

Well, I think this is her second all Star, so I think it's her fourth time back. Oh, we have Kennedy Davenport who was like, you got to evolve. She's been doing drag for over 30 years. She's got 30 years in the business. This she is in these streets. I will say, I do love this look in this hair. Her makeup. Kennedy's makeup is Always a little crazy.

A (79:49)

I'm bewildered about her makeup by someone

B (79:51)

who's always a little crazy.

A (79:52)

Someone is doing. Doing drag since the 70s. How can you, like, you don't have to look like you're in some of the 70s from the 90s. But she looked like she was from the 70s. Like, why is her makeup always so ashy and weird? And, like, why is this. Like, I want Kennedy to get. I. I don't understand why this makeup always looks crazy. I never.

B (80:07)

Makeup is always crazy.

A (80:08)

Crazy, though. But, like, you don't think we being your four time on Drag Race, maybe find someone to help you reign it in. That being said, I do like her outfit. I think her outfit is really cool.

B (80:18)

Oh, Kennedy's outfit. This outfit. Everything about this except her makeup is really great.

A (80:22)

The makeup is crazy. The makeup always looks crazy. And are we still doing the white high? I think we've. We let that go, babe.

B (80:28)

I. I might bring it back. I used to do that big. I used to do a black lip with just white right in the middle. I used to love white.

A (80:35)

We know. And we don't want you to bring it back in years. Leave it. Leave it where you have it.

B (80:39)

I bring it back.

A (80:40)

Don't do it.

B (80:40)

It was so kind.

A (80:41)

Don't do it, girl. It's not worth it, girl.

B (80:43)

Don't do it, girl. I already done it. I already done it. I love the outfit. Obviously, her makeup's kind of crazy. Can I say something kind of crazy?

A (80:52)

Never the fool, honey. What you bob, you have to say,

B (80:53)

it's always come from makeup. There are a lot of girls who have makeup worse than me, and they're always acting like I'm, like, who this one. Candy's makeup was crazy.

A (81:01)

Give us two more. 3.

B (81:04)

I can't think of any other right now, but there's more. This one's right in front of me. This makeup looks crazy. Let's move on to our interest. Look. What about winners? Winners? I think my makeup is okay. I think I'm as good as BB I think my makeup is as good as Bibi.

A (81:21)

I would say that y' all are fine.

B (81:22)

I think King James makeup's probably better than mine. I think Roger's makeup is obviously better than mine. I think my makeup is as good as Sharon Needles.

A (81:29)

No, Sharon can. Sharon can paint.

B (81:30)

So you love Sharon Needles?

A (81:32)

I do.

B (81:32)

Favorite queen who's five? Bianca. Jinx.

A (81:35)

Jinx.

B (81:36)

My makeup is good as Jinkx. Monsoon.

A (81:39)

I would say old Jinx. Yes. New Jinx. Jinx can paint now.

B (81:43)

And I Can paint, I'm saying.

A (81:45)

But I think she is.

B (81:47)

I think my makeup now is as good as jinx makeup right now. Okay.

A (81:50)

I would agree with that.

B (81:51)

And we don't have to go through all the rooms. I mean we don't have all. We have to do another podcast or.

A (81:56)

We're not gonna do that.

B (81:56)

We don't have time.

A (81:57)

We're doing it on time. If you. We have a heart out at 12:30.

B (81:59)

Okay, let's go into.

A (82:01)

This is it.

B (82:01)

Oh, yeah.

A (82:01)

Her entrance look.

B (82:03)

So for her interest look, I don't. What was I for? I don't forgot what. Oh, her makeup looks good here. Kind of. The eyebrows look kind of crazy. Can we please go to the comments? Jacob her. I like everything. Everything about this look but her eyebrows, if you could. And the fact that her belly button is white, like light skin. She got Naomi Small's belly button.

A (82:22)

If you're gonna buy a dress on Amazon or Shein wherever she bought this dress and throw some stones on it, you cannot do the spottiest little stones that look so bald headed and stretched out. Girl, Kennedy Davenport is a fucking pageant queen from the fucking 90s. Go and get some stones and fill out the fucking dress. Don't give us this little. Actually when jibbets on a croc, she's like, bloop, bloop. So yeah, I think that she's got

B (82:48)

your new enemy this season. She's your Kenny.

A (82:50)

I'm anime. I like Kenny Davenport. We're good friends.

B (82:52)

Call her. Text her. Right now.

A (82:54)

No, we're doing a podcast. Where's my phone?

B (82:56)

Actually, good friends. When's the last time you text her?

A (82:59)

Probably two weeks ago.

B (83:01)

Two weeks?

A (83:01)

Yeah. Because she asked me a question about

B (83:03)

a promo Ring Monday's phone over here.

A (83:05)

I don't know where my phone is. She, she. They were philosophy. They were in la. She was asking me about. About a wig and I said I. Girl, I don't have that wig anymore.

B (83:13)

So you lied.

A (83:14)

What do you mean?

B (83:15)

What wig was it?

A (83:16)

The one I wore in my brown Godiva thing.

B (83:19)

You do have that wig.

A (83:20)

No thing.

B (83:20)

Borrowed it.

A (83:21)

Tsunami borrowed it for their finale.

B (83:24)

I saw it at your house, okay, Last week.

A (83:26)

You were not even at my house last week.

B (83:28)

You weren't there, but I was.

A (83:29)

Okay. Anyway. And she didn't text me. I just made that up.

B (83:35)

I knew you did. I fucking knew it. Now that you mentioned this dress being like printed. They're not actually straps for sure, girl. It's kind of crazy.

A (83:44)

It's crazy.

B (83:44)

But she looks pretty though.

A (83:46)

Okay?

B (83:47)

I think she looks really pretty.

A (83:48)

I. I do think her makeup is pretty, but no, I think she.

B (83:50)

I think this whole look is pretty. It looks a little cheap, but she looks. I think she looks so pretty.

A (83:54)

Okay, is this. Is this outfit better? What's what? What's better? This printed Butterfly Monarch outfit or your robot outfit?

B (84:01)

My robot outfit is more iconic. This is prettier though. If my question, if she makeup like this, why did she do that other makeup in her promo? I'm serious. If she can do this, why would you do what you did in the promo?

A (84:14)

Well, that's because we set up. It was a profile in a promo. Johnny Tsunami said, I can't even imagine Kennedy connecting to WI Fi.

B (84:25)

Oh, shit. All right, y'. All. Monet, who's your favorite? Jacob, can you do a speedrun through all the promos? We can pick our favorite looks. Cause I think I have mine, to be honest. Okay. Not that well.

A (84:35)

He's gonna get started from the beginning. Bob. Give him a second.

B (84:37)

Damn, Jacob.

A (84:38)

I got you.

B (84:39)

He could have just gone backwards. Words. Okay.

A (84:49)

Yeah.

B (84:55)

Wuhan.

A (84:56)

Yes.

B (84:57)

Yaha. Aha. Baja blast.

A (85:03)

I got mine.

B (85:03)

Who's yours?

A (85:04)

Favorite promo look.

B (85:05)

Yep.

A (85:05)

Hands down.

B (85:06)

Huh?

A (85:07)

These are my hands.

B (85:07)

Can we say at the same time?

A (85:09)

One, two, three. Crystal method.

B (85:11)

Easy. Crystal method. Go ahead.

A (85:13)

No, go ahead.

B (85:13)

And who's your least favorite?

A (85:15)

Least favorite?

B (85:16)

Sugar cane? My least favorite Sugarcane promo look. Promo look.

A (85:19)

Can you google back it this way?

B (85:22)

I just feel like there wasn't a whole lot of thought put into sugarcane's promo look. And it just looks like a cocktail dress that you could buy like a. Like a kind of a girls night out cocktail dress. Not into it.

A (85:34)

Oh, I'm gonna say Mystique Summers for me.

B (85:38)

Can we now do this? Their intro looks. Can you just speed run those one more time, Jacob? We're gonna do the intro looks. I think I know who my favorite intro look is already. I don't think I'm gonna need to even look too hard at this. Yeah.

A (85:53)

Least favorite of mine. Okay.

B (85:55)

Yeah. Oh. Uh huh. And that one. And I got it. My favorite is Ora Mayori.

A (86:06)

Her favorite.

B (86:07)

Her interest look. That look is so. Can you put on the screen so you can see it, Jacob? Ora Mayori's interest look is so cool to me. I think it looks amazing. The size of it. Interest look, please. The size of it alone is just. This is epic. I really think this is actually quite epic. Truly, I really love this look. What do you not like about this look?

A (86:31)

I just think it looks so cumbersome I just don't. And I swear to God, I'm not trying to do a thing. I just. It's nice. But out of everyone your favorite?

B (86:40)

I love this look. I really like this look.

A (86:42)

I do think again, her makeup is stunning, but it's not my favorite look. I think it just looks too cumbersome. I think in both of her looks she's adding bulk to herself that she doesn't need to. Like there's a way to do this and not make yourself look like a fucking Megazord.

B (86:54)

I think it's armor. She looks like she's got armor on.

A (86:56)

Yeah, you can look like an armor and not be fucking Megazord.

B (86:59)

J for Pay says Monet hates this woman.

A (87:01)

I do not hate her.

B (87:02)

I'm just reading the comments.

A (87:03)

I know you read the comments. Of course you would read that one. There are other ones that were saying something different. You would read that one.

B (87:08)

And who's your favorite interest look?

A (87:10)

My favorite look is Selena City's. I think it's such a nice glow up and transformation from her original season. I genuinely think she looks really stunning here. This Marilyn, this gold. And like again, since it's All Stars, finding ways like Vivacious and herself to reference things that you did on Drag Race that people know about. I think it's funny, it's fun and I think this is. I think she looks great.

B (87:32)

Yeah. My least favorite. It's gonna be Jasmine Kennedy is my least favorite one. I really didn't like that look. I really didn't like that look.

A (87:42)

Yeah, my least favorite is going to be Sam Starr.

B (87:47)

CMR says. When does drag have to be comfortable?

A (87:50)

Never.

B (87:50)

Okay.

A (87:51)

Drag is comfortable if you are doing when you're not on television. I think when you're on television your drag needs to be the most uncomfortable that you ever want to be. Cause videos last forever and this show will last forever. If I'm going to do a school doing a stand up set at Percheworth Studios for like a 10 minute set and I'm in drag. Yes, some people see it, but it's not going to be like on a television show that people are going to see forever and ever and ever. You know what I mean? So I'm all about doing on tv. I was on Traders that first episode. Uncomfortable as hell in this corset, mad feet hurting. I was only six months out of my surgery. I was over it. But I was like, this is gonna be on TV forever, so I'm gonna make myself uncomfortable.

B (88:26)

Another patron. Keys grow up a little bit. Another patron said Bob is trying to beat these bully allegations while setting Monet up to dunk on her. I'm gently not. I genuinely just really think that look looks cool. She looks like she's at drag. Not dragcon Comic Con.

A (88:40)

She looks like a. Yeah, like a Power Rangers Megazord.

B (88:43)

Yeah, she, she's like a character for something. And, and like, I also, the conversation. Like, like, like crystal methods. Drag also. You chose a cumbersome one that add a lot of bulk is your favorite.

A (88:52)

No, no, no. But her promo look was not.

B (88:55)

Go back to it. It's cumbersome and huge.

A (88:57)

It's huge. But it's not Joey.

B (88:59)

Way bigger than the.

A (89:00)

No, it's not. No, that. This is not cumbersome.

B (89:05)

This is not. Like she's small at the top.

A (89:07)

Like she, she has.

B (89:07)

Comments, please, Jacob. She has size hair at the hips

A (89:10)

to accentuate her hips, but you see her full legs. You see the upheaval thing. You see she has a long neck. Like she looks elongated.

B (89:15)

She can't even put her arms down.

A (89:16)

It looks like fashion.

B (89:17)

She can't even put her arms down.

A (89:18)

Yeah, she can't put her hands down

B (89:19)

and they'd be resting on top of the balls and go back to Rmiyar looking like. Looking like what? Looking like what?

A (89:28)

Let me see the.

B (89:29)

I wanna see.

A (89:30)

I'm still curious what y' all think.

B (89:31)

Looking like. Like what?

A (89:32)

Monet.

B (89:32)

No, no, finish that statement.

A (89:34)

She can put her head down either. Anyway, so Diamond Love Bug says Selena looks like a white lady here.

B (89:45)

I don't think, I don't think she looks white.

A (89:47)

She has blonde hair.

B (89:47)

Who do you think is winning the season? I wanted to be Joy J. I,

A (89:51)

I, I, I, I think Joy Jay is winning All Stars.

B (89:53)

I love Joy J. I don't know why she's so fun. You know what it is? I would hang out with Joey J.

A (90:00)

I could see that.

B (90:00)

I would hang out with Joey. She'd be fun. I could see Joey J at the diner being a real cut up, maybe a little tipsy, but she hasn't crossed over. You know what I mean? Who else is really good? I think Kennedy's got. Kennedy's never been on Drag Race. Not making to the finale ever. Well, I haven't watched all of her season, but on her American seasons, she's always made finale. So Kennedy's gonna be in the finale, obviously. I would love to see Morgan in the finale.

A (90:23)

Yeah,

B (90:26)

Yeah.

A (90:26)

I think Joey J is winning All Stars 11.

B (90:30)

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A (90:43)

Bye.