The One About Drag Shows

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Drag Shows"

Aired: August 20, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
(Plus Jacob and occasional guest voices)

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Episode Overview

This riotous installment of Sibling Rivalry sees Monét and Bob dive into the world of drag shows, their personal histories in drag, and the culture (and wardrobe drama) that surrounds it. The pair riff on everything from the competitive length of their wigs, the politics of drag hand-me-downs, wild tales from their New York nightlife roots, and the art of "Bad Drag Queen" pageants. Highly comedic and authentic, the episode moves beyond surface-level drag banter into real stories about friendship, vulnerability, and, of course, New York neighborhood drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Great Wig-Length Showdown

• Who Has the Longest Wig?
  • The episode opens with a passionate, hilarious debate about which host owns the longest wig.
  • Bob: “You literally do not have one wig longer than my longest wig…” [03:53]
  • Monét: “Bob, I have two wigs longer than your…than your longest wig.” [03:59]
• The conversation gets increasingly detailed, with disputes over how to measure a wig (“from the crown” or along the braid).
• Stakes are raised: loser must perform push-ups with the winner on their back, leading to jokes about size and strength.

Iconic Drag Queen Wardrobe Battles

• Sharing and Sentimentality in Drag
  • Monét and Bob reminisce (and squabble) over drag garments borrowed, given, or returned—particularly Bob’s gold dress, which Monét placed in her "Bad Drag Queen" pile.
  • Bob: “I didn’t just give Monet a bag of garbage…and she found it in there.” [57:03]
  • Monét tries to defend herself: “To be honest, I didn’t know you were that sentimental about it.” [61:53]

Wildest Hook-up Stories and Craigslist Dangers

• The hosts swap their "strangest place" hookup stories—a favorite theme among fans.
  • Bob: Tells a saga about a Craigslist-facilitated hook-up that involved trains, bodegas, fire escapes, and a squat. [21:04]
  • Monét: Shares about getting frisky at the end of a subway platform (“I just wanted dick so bad!”). [24:05]

Vulnerability and Emotional Stories

• In a warm pivot, they discuss when they’ve seen friends and partners cry, and what constitutes an inappropriate response to vulnerability.
  • Bob: “Are you crying is a very inappropriate response to someone crying.” [31:01]
  • Recollections include Jacob crying during emotional moments and Game of Thrones, providing glimpses into their off-stage friendships.

Neighborhood Wars: NYC Geography and Drag Queen Street Cred

• Monét and Bob spar over what neighborhoods count as Harlem, Morningside Heights, or the Upper West Side.
• Both demonstrate how neighborhood identity ties into drag culture and personal history.
  • Monét: “So stop saying the Upper West Side. Nigga. You lived in Harlem.” [47:25]
  • Bob: “Harlem doesn’t start to 125, but we can have a conversation.” [47:28]

Classic NYC Drag Gigs & Show-Biz Memories

• Reminiscing about iconic drag nights in NYC clubs—Bad Drag Queen, The Help, their collaborations with queens like Pixie Aventura and Frosty Flakes.
• They break down the format of "Bad Drag Queen," a pageant for audience members, and its impact on their careers.
  • “It was honestly a really fun idea.” [68:10]
  • “Honestly, I think if I was still a local queen in New York, that show would still be going on.” [68:28]
• Quick detour into Drag Race statistics and competitive legacies.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the wig challenge:
  • Bob: “You don’t have one wig longer than my longest wig, and you don’t have a wig longer than my second longest wig.” [03:53]
• Push-up challenge trash talk:
  • Bob: “When I lay 225 pounds on your little, slim, recently slim back…” [05:59]
  • Monét: “Nigga, I can’t even get up with you on my back!” [04:40]
• Competitive Drag History:
  • Bob: “The first time I ever saw Bob cry, before we were even really best friends, Bob had did the Miss Our Lady of Saliva pageant…” [31:08]
• Craigslist hookup:
  • Bob: “…We climb up a fire escape. A fire escape. We climb into the window. The room has a bed in it. Just a bed. He says to me, I don’t…I technically don’t live here anymore…” [23:09]
  • Monét: “You could have been Craigslist killed.” [23:33]
• Drag hand-me-downs:
  • Monét: “So I put it in the Bad Drag Queen pile…” [59:29]
  • Bob: “Don’t play with me. Don’t fucking play with me. That’s not funny. Bring my jacket over here…” [55:33]
• On measuring drag success:
  • Bob: “…the fact that I have three wins on my season is more impressive than having four wins on a longer season!” [62:59]
• NYC Geography:
  • Monét: “Morningside Heights is basically…is Harlem.”
  • Bob: “You’re not from the Bronx, where they will fuck up any nigga from Brooklyn…and you’re not from Harlem, where they will fuck up any…” [47:46]
• On drag show formats:
  • Bob: “Top of the show…I’d pick three people from the audience who are gonna participate in a pageant…there is makeup, there are wigs, and there are dresses, and there are shoes…” [66:43]
  • Monét: “…people would bring a lot of their friends and family because they would just want to see their brother get up in drag or whatever.” [68:18]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Wig-length debate begins: [03:32]
• Wager on physical challenge: [04:32]
• Sentiment and drag wardrobe sharing: [55:23–61:53]
• Craigslist story: [21:04–24:00]
• ‘Bad Drag Queen’ show explained: [66:43–68:18]
• Cry talk & emotional vulnerability: [27:34–31:08]
• NYC neighborhood bickering: [46:07–50:11]
• Bob’s gold dress drama revisited: [57:27–62:03]
• Drag Race wins discussion: [62:57–64:49]

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Episode Highlights: Rapid Fire

• “You don't see me as bald!”: The visual politics of baldness in drag.
• Dramatic stakes for the wig face-off, promising push-ups and squats as forfeit.
• A masterclass on drag queen emotional labor and boundary-setting (with jackets and shoes standing in for metaphoric boundaries).
• A comedic master thesis on the insanity of NYC “official” neighborhood borders.
• Peek into local queen grind: The duo’s shared nostalgia for N.Y. bar shows and the vibrant, sometimes chaotic pre-fame drag life.
• Iconic lines: “You're not a real New Yorker unless you’ve fucked between subway cars.” [24:38]
• Heartfelt reflections: “I think Egypt was born from that show.” [68:35]

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Final Thoughts

“The One About Drag Shows” is classic Sibling Rivalry: full of deep-cut drag culture, riotous personal history, real friendship vulnerability, and signature bickering. Bob and Monét prove that drag is much more than the sum of wigs and sequins—it's about memory, community, and the value of a well-worn (and legendary) dress.

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen and I'm.

[Monet X Change]

Monet X Change and this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, we find out who has the longest wig, we talk.

[Monet X Change]

About some of our favorite drag shows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet sing.

[Monet X Change]

Say this you so damn vanilla. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mon. Everyone knows that. Mon. Have you seen the thing online where you shave your head like this?

[Monet X Change]

Girl every shaving day? I'm always this. They're always marketing towards me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I mean, I mean I get tagged in it.

[Monet X Change]

I don't get tagged. I just see. I just see the ads, people tagging you. That's. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean I am famously bald.

[Monet X Change]

I would say I am too a white people. Who are people telling you like oh, Bob, look. Look what you should buy for yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think it might be other baldies being like, hey, girl, look what I do. Maybe you would appreciate this.

[Monet X Change]

No. Don't want to ask me stuff like that. I don't think people see me as. I think I'm bald, but they don't perceive me as bald.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think people perceive me as being bald. You know, you think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think. You think they see you with a fro.

[Monet X Change]

Nothing. They perceive me because I think they see me in wigs a lot, so they perceive me as someone with wigs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wear wigs, too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but. Yeah, not really. You don't wear wigs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I haven't worn wigs longer than you.

[Monet X Change]

You say you wear wigs longer than me, or you've been wearing them longer than me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Both.

[Monet X Change]

You don't have a. You have one wig number that's. That's long. You have a. You literally have one wig that's longer than me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have one wig longer than my longest wig, and that's the most important thing.

[Monet X Change]

That is true. I mean, I'm so sorry. That's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You. You literally do not have one wig longer than my longest wig, and you don't have a wig longer than my second longest wig.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, I have two wigs longer than your. Than your longest wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do not.

[Monet X Change]

I promise I do you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Okay. Jacob's gonna pull them up, call your big wig, your long wig, and then I'll call my long wig, and we'll see how long whose wig is longer.

[Monet X Change]

Call it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob will Google it. You don't have a wig longer than my jig. I do.

[Monet X Change]

I have two of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have one wig. Lord.

[Monet X Change]

I have two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all there? Okay, I have to come over to the studio today to record.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bring your wigs.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna bring my wig. And y. Look up. Look up the results on TikTok. Y' all gotta see the results on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what are you gonna do when you lose? When you lose. I want. When you lose, I want you to do 10 pushups while I'm laying on your back. 10. And you have to complete all 10.

[Monet X Change]

Nigga, I can't even get up with you on my back. If you go to do a push up. I cannot do a push up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why would you have to worry about it? Cause it's not gonna happen. So you can agree to anything. You could agree to eat my car.

[Monet X Change]

Right what is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happened? Right?

[Monet X Change]

What's up with you and eating things lately?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

A camera, A phone?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is it?

[Monet X Change]

What is this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's funny. I will eat this computer. You will? So you could agree to eat my Toyota Venza.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, if I am wrong, I would do three pushups. No, three push ups. With you on my back, which is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gonna be a lot already, Jeff. To the floor. Yeah. Elbows fully extended.

[Monet X Change]

Ok. And then what do you do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I'm right and let me eat. Let me eat something hefty before you come over.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. So if so, let me grab my weighted vest. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Another 30 pounds.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And if I'm right, then you will do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will squat you 20 times over my shoulders.

[Monet X Change]

How is the physical of that even happening?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will carry fireman's carry and I'll squat 20 times.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm doing 10. I'm doing 10.

[Monet X Change]

Shake on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you need to do some warm up push ups before you get here?

[Monet X Change]

Bitch, I went to the gym no more this morning. I am very warm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're about to be exhausted. When I lay my big ass on your back.

[Monet X Change]

I want this new warm up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I lay £225 on your little slim, recently slim back.

[Monet X Change]

My back has become to unbig. Although, bitch, I was backsliding last week. Bitch, the amount of food I ate last week recently slim is such a funny recently slim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is too small.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, are you wearing a Tran sweater?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah. Anyway, have I seen these wigs?

[Monet X Change]

You probably never seen them. No, because they're so long. I don't wear them. I've literally wore them. I wore them on my album cover and I wore them in a video on the academic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many inches do you think they are?

[Monet X Change]

They're longer than me. So they're longer than. I'm 5 11. I'm 5 10, 3 4. So they're at least what, 5 11? They're at least 670 inches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And where are we? Is it from the base of the wig? Now you. Now let's just say, for example, if yours are braids, you can't measure from here and then measure this and then measure down.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to measure from the scalp to the end.

[Monet X Change]

No, we're measuring the length of the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Right.

[Monet X Change]

So that's from where you started the cornrow. Because the hair starts here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Monet, that's not how. No. When you measure your braids, when you measure your cornrows, they start from here. You don't start Them from here. Who. Who, Who.

[Monet X Change]

Who said this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone. You measure your hang time. No, Monique, everyone knows that.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's not how I grew up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

You know what. So then we can meet in the middle. You can start halfway then. That's fair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, you still won't win. I will win because my braids are taller than me and I am 3 inches taller than you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, bother. We'll find out in about two hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To quote Serena Cha Cha. Well, girls, we shall see.

[Jacob]

Wig hair is typically measured from the crown, the top slump, back of the scalp area.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What Monet's not incorporating is that this hair is being measured this direction. Not. Does not this.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob just said exactly what I said. You measured from the crown.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but out. Not when it's slick back to your head. So this is. This is the problem. You ready? This hair starts here. This is where this hair starts. And then you measure it going down. You're measuring your entire scalp and just adding it to. And because of the sheer size. Size of your head, you have an extra 2ft already, which is not fair. You're cut because of the craniage you possess, not crainage. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Do you want to. Do you want to thank me for giving you the idea of having a dad hats for your tour? These are mon. I've been selling dad hats since I started my. My drag career.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been selling baseball hats since the start of my career. Kennedy? No, not Kennedy. Aaron. Aaron. I don't know. I can't wanna say her last name, but Aaron designed this hat. I mean, it's not a whole lot of design. It's just. It says, this is wild.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but you didn't sell hats before your tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's 100% not true.

[Monet X Change]

Well, okay, I've sold hats since my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since my debut on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, and what were your hats?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think this is the first baseball hat I've ever sold?

[Monet X Change]

I'm just asking what kind of baseball hats? What was the design before? I've never seen them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It said purse purse on it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So do you want to thank me for giving you the idea?

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want a kowtow?

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you. So I'm going to Cowboy Carter. I have my lovely friend Mario Rodriguez who's stoning my look for me. And bitch, I ordered. I need white cowboy boots. I ordered them, and I thought they were women's 12. Of men's 12, they were on women's 12, so I had to send Them back when I got her on Sunday. I'm trying to get. I'm hoping the new ones come today because I need to have white copywoods to finish my look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you just cut the heel out and then just let you let give a little biscuit.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just cut the back of the shoe off. Give a little biscuit.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. That's how that works. So I have a new one coming today that's 13. It's still a half size. A size too small for women's but hopefully it'll work a third. You wear women's 13 in heels. So put your fucking hand down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wear a 12.

[Monet X Change]

You bob, you wear a 13.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wear a 12 depending on the shoe. You have absolute video. Pause the video.

[Monet X Change]

OK. OK. Bob wears 12 and 13s but there are several of my shoes who have 13s that were too small that fit Bob just right. So Bob better act like he only wears a 12 when he absolutely has fit my size sturgeon shoes that I've given him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let the record show that is a 12.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I'm saying though there have been my size 13 shoes that you have worn because they didn't fit many feet. I didn't say you only wear 12, but you often wear 13.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when I wore your shoes, my. No, my toes were crunched trying to keep them. I was. I was walking like this trying to.

[Monet X Change]

Keep them shoes on. I have size. I have size 12 shoes that I wear too open. So shoes I can wear size fit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And show the bottom of the shoe. Yo. I promise you right now, Monet could never get her big lumpy, sideways, fucking crooked ass foot in this shoe. Stones would be popping all off. They'd be ricocheting around the room.

[Monet X Change]

This is a size 13 shoe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? I said 12. I have.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know where my size 12 shoes are turned down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monique has literally. Maybe in third grade. Maybe in third grade I wear a size 12. And Monet will be here today and I will. Her exploding feet will bust all out of the side of this shoe condition.

[Monet X Change]

Size 12. Look at her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sweating, sweating, cooking bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bitch. Yes, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We do not wear the same shoes. That my foot is tiny and clean.

[Monet X Change]

Tiny. Tiny for a fucking ochre bitch. Tiny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And honey, the tiniest shoe on this riverside. Jacob, shut the hell up, girl. No, don't. Don't fake the funk. Those of us who wear heel. We see your foot floating off the bottom of that shoe, girl. Nice try, honey. Nice try.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so you. So you are going to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You.

[Monet X Change]

I. I'm Very jealous that you. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hear some noises.

[Monet X Change]

Go ahead. Oh, yeah. You remember how you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, how the tables have turned.

[Monet X Change]

The tables have turned.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. Be like, someone's in my home. Can I tell you guys, there's a serial killer in la?

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's so creepy.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And he seems like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The midnight soccer.

[Monet X Change]

What is that? What does that mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that right, Jacob? Is he the midnight soccer. There's a whole Netflix documentary about him. He was a killer in the 80s. In the 90s, I believe, or maybe the 70s and 80s. 80s and something. And he would just basically go to houses, wiggle the doors, and if they're open, he'd go in and kill people. Like midnight soccer. Midnight soccer. He did a lot.

[Jacob]

Just night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The night stalker. The night stalker. And how many victims, Jacob? It was a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Like, what's a lot?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jake is going to tell you right now. I think he might be the most prolific killer in California. Maybe besides the Zodiac Killer. Maybe.

[Monet X Change]

And was the Zodiac Killer, he just killed people based on their star sign?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the Zodiac Killer, I don't. I don't fully remember, but it has something to do with him sending messages to the police or The Zodiac killer.

[Jacob]

15 confirmed. But there could be. There is some. There could be more.

[Monet X Change]

The Zodiac Killer is an unidentified serial killer, known. Wait, he was unidentified? They never caught him. That occurred.

[Jacob]

He just stopped murdering people at some point.

[Monet X Change]

Killer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

For a series of murders that occurred in Northern California in late 1960s, early 1970s, he linked to five confirmed murders, with authorities suspecting he may responsible for additional killings. But why did. He's a Zodiac. I don't know.

[Jacob]

He, like, left. He left. He was interesting because he left, like, behind, like, clues about his next murder and stuff, but they were, like, completely incomprehensible, and they're, like, in different language. So I. I believe, like, Zodiac was referencing to, like, the codes he would use and the messages that he left the police.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, in la. Like what? Like, once someone. Like, what compulsion do you have in your life that happens, that you want to go on a murdering spree, killing people? That is, like, crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you were a circular, how would you get away with it?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think I would. I'll be so messy. I don't think I'll be able to get away with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you and I are doing it together. How are we gonna get away with it? We're targeting. We're targeting, let's say, Twinks. Drag queens with.

[Monet X Change]

Who wants Twinks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag queens. Okay. We're killing Twinks.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So how are we gonna get away with it with no drag queens? Just twinks. We're targeting twinks. Where are we shopping for our victims?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. At nightclubs. And we're gonna go to the Abbey because they roof for everyone there anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's cameras everywhere. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

It'll be it. But you. You spot them there and then we, like, we. We see them there at the Abbey. We make sure that they get roofied, follow them back. Because everyone drives in la, follow them back to their car, and we kill them in the car.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You see, you're messy. We're getting. We're getting them on Grind. This is why. This is why. This is why I'm not. This is why I'm not gonna do it with you. I'll just do it with someone else. We're getting them on Grindr.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, and like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we have a fake profile. We have like a daddy profile. And it's like, I just want to spoil you.

[Monet X Change]

Uh huh. And where do you. And where do you do the killing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say at an Airbnb.

[Monet X Change]

But people. But. And how do you. How are you getting this Airbnb?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, maybe at a. At a. Okay, not an Airbnb. We could do it at a hotel.

[Monet X Change]

A hotel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It gets expensive.

[Monet X Change]

Hotel is expensive also. But you have to have like a fake something, because people are going to link you to these places. People get killed. Like, you have to rent the Airbnb and unless you make up a fake profile.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it'd be a CD hotel. A pay by the hour hotel.

[Monet X Change]

Pay by the hour. Okay, bitch, have you been fucked in an hour? Pay by the hour hotel?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. No. I think the weirdest place I've ever fucked was maybe like, have I ever fucked anywhere weird? I'll tell you after the break.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was really weighing me down.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every provider is carefully vetted for their expertise and they stick with you throughout your journey, helping you schedule, checking in on your progress, and making sure you're moving toward your therapy goals. They've got a network of over 15,000 therapists and psychiatrists nationwide, so you can find the right match based on your needs and preferences. They even support medication management if that's part of your care. Thousands have already trusted RULA to support them in their path toward better mental health. Head over to Rula to get started today. After you sign up, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them that we sent you. Go to r u l a.com rivalry and take the first step toward better mental health Today. You deserve quality care from someone who cares. That's rula.com rivalry r u l a.com rivalry fierce I remember the first time I realized my everyday spending was affecting my it was when I got our future. Every decision I make affects us. This is true. It was when I got denied for an apartment that I really wanted. My credit score wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either and I knew I had to get smarter about how I manage it. That's when I learned just how much better credit can make your life. Lower rates on car loans, better terms for borrowing and way more options for housing. Now through Chime, I can be intentional about building credit with the Chime Credit Builder Secured Visa credit card. I can use everyday purchases, groceries, gas streaming services and turn them into credit building opportunities just by making regular on time payment.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Chime Credit Builder Visa credit card is issued by the bank or bank NA or stripe Bank NA Chime Checking account required to apply. Money added to your credit builder will be held in your secured deposit account as collateral and is your credit builder card is available to spend amount. This is money you can use to pay off your monthly charges out of network, ATM withdrawal and oc. Advance fees may apply. Late payment may negatively impact your credit score. Results may vary. Go to time.com disclosures for details. Weirdest place I'VE ever fucked. I mean, I don't think a parking lot is that weird. I think a lot of people have fucked in parking lots.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't think that's weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Weirdest place. I don't think I've ever really fucked anywhere weird. I mean, I've done some risque stuff like a parking lot or maybe never.

[Monet X Change]

Anywhere weird in New York City. You never fucked anywhere strange?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Not weirder than, not weirder than like a parking lot.

[Monet X Change]

Like, that's so interesting. You so damn vanilla.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, one time I did fucking an abandoned apartment.

[Monet X Change]

That's not weird. But that's, it's more weird than a parking lot and a, like, mean, like someone just moved out of it and you fucked up. That's not weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I hooked up. So I hooked up this guy and he called. So this was, this was back in Craigslist days.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh. Oh, my God, the Craigslist killer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So he was like, I can't believe I fell for this. I'm gonna say that out loud right now. Current me, 20 something. 20, 22 year old me would have. 38 year old me would never fall for this. He was like, take the one train to 125. And I was like, okay, he's at 125. I got to 125. He goes, take the Metro north to Mount Vernon. No, I'm already at 125.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not getting on the Metro North. The subway is one thing. The Metro North. Now I'm paying $5, but I'm already.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm already at 125. Nope, I'll go ahead. It's like another 10, 15 minutes. Go to Mount Vernon. Take a taxi to this bodega.

[Monet X Change]

Why is the information coming in pieces? Why wasn't just giving me the final like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, because I, I, I kept thinking each one was the final stop. Like, I will see you here. Take this taxi to this bodega, okay? Buy me some cigarettes at the bodega.

[Monet X Change]

You, you, you could have been Craigslist Guild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, okay, so gullible. Walk up this hill.

[Monet X Change]

How long is this journey at this point?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At this point, over an hour.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then we meet up the hill. And he goes, now follow me. Did you get my cigarettes? I said, I didn't buy the cigarettes. I don't have enough money for cigarettes. This is New York City, baby. Cigarettes cost $87 a pack, okay? I did not buy cigarettes. He said, it's whatever. We get up the hill. He's like, we climb up a fire escape. A fire escape.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We climb into the window. The room has a bed in it. Just a bed. He says to me, I don't. I technically don't live here anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Squatting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we have to be really quiet. Squatting. It was just the room. He's like, you can't.

[Monet X Change]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You cannot go into the. Into the apartment. We cannot leave this room.

[Monet X Change]

Was he cute?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was very hot. And it was amazing sex.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you did it, bitch. You could have had Craigslist. Killed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I killed. I killed something.

[Monet X Change]

You know what? When we are young, we're just so. We're just so horny. I mean, I. Yeah, just as a young kid. You're so fucking horny and dumb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I would remember what he looked like if I saw him today, too. But it was. Oh, my God, it was 16, 17 years ago.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. That's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He had braids. He was maybe your complexion.

[Monet X Change]

The strangest place I've probably hooked up. I hooked up on at the. At the very, very end of the front car of the. The C train taking it to 1 35th street on this platform in the little conductor area. No, like off the train. Like, we rode the train together. We got off the C train all the way to the end because it's a pretty abandoned. It's a pretty empty thing. It was like late night. I just remember there were so many, like, rats and stuff running around. But I was. I wanted dick so bad. I just was with. I just wanted to have sex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you ever fuck between cars?

[Monet X Change]

No. That's dangerous, bitch. It could fall off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not a real New Yorker, Death. You're such a fake New Yorker.

[Monet X Change]

I love dick, but I don't love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't love dick as much as I love death. Death is much of dick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Real New Yorkers would fuck on top of the train.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever seen those videos? New York City is wild. Have you seen this guy who, like, is Spider Man? He's like, riding on the train.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's insane.

[Monet X Change]

How. Why is he doing that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you're like 125 in Queens. Like, most of the Manhattan shops are underground.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but that's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's insane. I agree.

[Monet X Change]

And then you ever see him fighting that. Fighting that, that, that. That black, heavyset homeless guy and they. They be having, like. You've never seen this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not that one.

[Monet X Change]

They be having, like. Be having, like, battles in the trade. It'd be crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My friend Sydney Washington in on it. Like, what is going on? My friend Sydney Washington said that only real New Yorkers would know about channel two.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Channel two. And. And channel one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Channel two channel.

[Monet X Change]

Channel two news. Like CBS News.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He says it's just news 24 hours a day.

[Monet X Change]

No, I think. I think she's talking about. That's channel one a.m. new York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She might have said channel one.

[Monet X Change]

I think channel one. Yeah. It's like. It's like. It's just all New York City news, all New York all day New York news all day long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The news gotta get boring at some point. Someone's gotta be like, margaret bought peaches. Right? Like, there's 24 hour news on one town. Can't be riveting the whole day.

[Monet X Change]

Which, if y' all have seen this, Bob's new special is already out about his. About the one on Mother's Day. It's so funny. You guys should all go watch it. I was very impressed by. He just showed me his little 10 minutes. Bob said, oh, oh, baby. You can see two seconds of it. He said, you're not gonna see the whole thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not what happened.

[Monet X Change]

You didn't show me the whole thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because, Monae, you were working.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. N. Did you ask me? You don't know what I was doing. I was on a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You act like I did a private screening without you.

[Monet X Change]

You did. It was literally a private screening with Dylan Adler. Literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, you were doing a private screening. First of all, it started with Patrick. That's cause Patrick was trying to get away from the oppressive, authoritarian boss that he has.

[Monet X Change]

That's right. That gets shit done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Named Kevin Burton.

[Monet X Change]

That's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he would literally come in here and cry. I would have to hold him good.

[Monet X Change]

That bitch deserved to cry because of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How oppressive his boss is. And we watched the special, but Patrick was, like, being, like, yelled at by his boss to come back to work and literally wiping tears to go back to work.

[Monet X Change]

Listen, we don't care about white tears here at Monation Jealousy. White tears mean nothing to me. I bottle them up and drink them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you must be in your life source with Andy over there. I know that nigga be crying. He looks like a crier. Andy looks like a crier, and he's a crier.

[Monet X Change]

And like, can I tell you one? A trick that I learned from a very young age? I lear. I learned how to cry on cue. Like, I can. I can just cry. It's like, I believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're manipulative.

[Monet X Change]

It's my. Like, it's my. It's my one little acting trick I can do. I can just cry on cue if I need to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have only seen Jacob cry maybe twice.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, tell us why. Tell us only one time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tell us why Jacob was crying on the podcast when the one. The one about the state of America. Because you and I were crying, and then Jacob started crying. Oh, my God. Oh, Jacob. That was so sweet. We were together for that one.

[Jacob]

You see me cry more times than that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's true. I have. I think that was the first time I saw you cry, probably.

[Monet X Change]

Yo, yo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Three years in, that's the first time I see him cry. That was the first time I saw Jay with crying.

[Jacob]

That was two years ago. We started dating 2018, and then it was 2020.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I still remember we were sitting.

[Monet X Change]

Here, the first tier. First of all, y' all said I love you on the first day. And you ain't seen him cry until two years later.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

That's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I still remember we were sitting in the basement. Were you over that time, Monae? No.

[Monet X Change]

I was thinking. I wasn't home. I was. Cause we were. We didn't want to.

[Jacob]

Yeah, we were. So. It was before we were in pods. It was when you were like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I remember Jacob was sitting.

[Monet X Change]

I remember we were.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was looking down. We were crying about something that happened to a young black girl. And then I remember Jacob took off his glasses, and he did a little. His little face like this, and he was, like, crying because you and I were crying. It was just a very. It was a very. That's probably our most emotional episode.

[Monet X Change]

It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is our most. And then I saw Jacob cry during.

[Monet X Change]

Game of Thrones when Daenerys became the dragon and seceded Tarzan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was.

[Jacob]

No, it was specifically. It was the season finale when. Spoiler alert. When Sansa Stark finally ascends to the northern throne.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was really irritated with Alfredo. I was so irritated with Alfredo that day.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because Alfredo just goes, are you crying?

[Monet X Change]

That is so Alfredo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like. I remember being like, why would you ask that? Like, we're all sitting there watching this show. But it wasn't like, oh, are you crying? You know how Alfredo fucking said it? Like, yeah, it's a fucking sad moment. Jacob's been watching the show for, like, five, six years now, and this moment is sad. And Alfredo goes in front of everyone. By the way, it wasn't like it was a viewing party. Jacob's sister was there. Alfredo was there. His partner was there.

[Monet X Change]

And you were there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were there. The lion was there. The scarecrow was there. And then Alfredo just goes, are you. And I know you're listening, Alfredo. I know you're listening.

[Monet X Change]

I love Alfredo so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Alfredo just goes, are you crying? I was like. I remember. Like, why would you. That's. Isn't that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

That is so funny. It is so Alfredo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I saw Jay would cry at Wicked. The Wicked opening sequence.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that was recent. Okay, so Jacob has had three cries on record.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he cried at my mom's funeral.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Also, when you're watching Coco.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

During Coco. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I don't get the Coco thing. Everybody's talking about this. I don't get. If I was there, I would have said to Jacob, are you crying? I don't get the cocoa thing.

[Jacob]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's such an inappropriate response to someone crying. Can I just say right now, are you. Are you crying? Is a very inappropriate response to someone crying. That's. That's in the amount of vulnerability it takes to let someone see you cry.

[Monet X Change]

That's so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the trust lost when the person seeing you crying goes, are you crying? Is insane to me.

[Monet X Change]

I've said it before, a million times on podcast. The first time I ever saw Bob cry, before we were even really best friends, Bob had did the Miss the Our lady of Saliva pageant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's not even a good one, man.

[Monet X Change]

And Bob had made all these costumes and worked so hard for this thing. And Bob should do this hair. And, you know, again, we were friends. We weren't like best friends or anything. I just. I knew Bob casually. And then. So I just remember going upstairs. Cause the bar, the performance scene was on the first floor. There's the second floor where they let all the girls dress. And that's where everybody get ready. And I just remember going and says, involved is y' all broken down and tired. Sobbing, just weeping.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Boo hooing.

[Monet X Change]

Boo hooing. Because you were tired and you didn't do well in the pageant. You were just. Your body had just been done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I came in second place. I did come in second place.

[Monet X Change]

Cause you had lost.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I lost to Titania Steel.

[Monet X Change]

Titania Steel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She whipped me up. She whipped me up. Titania, if you're listening, you ate me up.

[Monet X Change]

You did. Now she is a Delta flight. Delta flight. I see her. I see her pretty often when I fly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never get to see Titania still.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw her at RIP Barracuda.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she was there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not in the Night of Nothing. I saw her like, I Used to always go to Barracuda whenever I popped in. But I saw her, like, just randomly at Barracuda one night.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God. I gotta go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe, like. Maybe like five months ago, I would.

[Monet X Change]

Say what I love. When you see Honey, when you see Titania in the sky, she's not just one of these little honey. She is the bitch at the front on the phone. She is the H. F. The flight leader.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The flight leader.

[Monet X Change]

The flight leader. She'd be up there like, all right. She runs the girls. She's in charge of the girls. I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I live honestly. Good for her. I wanted to be a flight attendant for a really long time.

[Monet X Change]

I did, too, because it gave you the ability to travel.

[Jacob]

Can you talk more about your inappropriate responses to crying?

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Jacob]

I just wanted to finish that part off before we move.

[Monet X Change]

What.

[Jacob]

What you.

[Monet X Change]

What.

[Jacob]

What you think is an inappropriate response?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Are you. Crying is a completely inappropriate response to me. I think that what you should do is you should be like, what are you about to do, Jacob? What kind of shady shit are you about to do?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Jacob. Yeah. Please, Jacob, let us know. I'm just so happy. I miss you. Oh, my God. I'm crying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I sent my sweet little baby, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Always y'. All. Whenever Monet shared that clip, she always clips the part of me saying, my sweet little baby. Monet's all money that you laughed at me. I was laughing because it was a sweet moment. Then I said, my sweet little baby, and I fucking comforted your fucking bald head.

[Monet X Change]

No, but you first said, are you crying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I didn't go, are you crying? I said, are you crying, my sweet little baby? There's a difference between Alfredo going, are you crying? And me be like. And me being like. Because I was like, are you crying, my sweet little baby? I was being very sweet and compassionate to you, Bitch. Monet has called me furiously angry before. I don't think I've ever called you furiously angry.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, you have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no. I've called you crying, but I've never called you, like, furiously angry. You've called me, like, furiously angry.

[Monet X Change]

I think there are two times you call me furiously angry, and we'll talk about offline.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one time you called me. The first time you ever called me, like, I was like, what the fuck? I remember being like, do I need to, like, call like, what's.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was when that guy, that guy who scammed you showed up at Industry God Monet called, and I was like. I was like, monet, breathe.

[Monet X Change]

Breathe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It Was like, Monet, sit down. You have to breathe. I would have. Fuck.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, girl, the part, the two security guards and Cole, not Cole. Oh, my God. Chris Dunbar were literally holding me back. I was on some extra. Girl. I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I've ever. I don't think I've ever needed to be held back. We'll talk Martha's break about. About your anger issues.

[Monet X Change]

It's summertime. But instead of feeling relaxed, I caught myself stuck in a full on meal planning rut. I was so over it, y'. All. Cause you know, she's on her fitness journey and I was just cycling through the same three dinners every week. Annie made his 19 burritos and I'm eating them too, to turn sour. It's gross. It's a waste of my time. Then, then, then I tried Home Chef and it completely broke the monotony. Now I get fresh, easy to follow meal kits delivered right to my door. And I spend way less time stressing about what's for dinner. Cause y' all know I do parties too. So, you know, sometimes Jacob and Taylor and Bob and their partners come over and we just all make Home Chef meals together. Users of Leading meal kits have rated Home Chef number one in quality, convenience, value, taste, and recipes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say this, if you don't like to cook, you can get your Home Chef delivered to your friend's house. And then you show up, you can have them cook it for you.

[Monet X Change]

Is that what that was?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I do.

[Monet X Change]

You are so shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

So, Bob, I had this idea for a side hustle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm all ears.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I want to do custom enamel pins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll take mine for free. I'm not buying anything. You're buying it.

[Monet X Change]

Because they're gonna be very super niche. They're gonna be very chic, they're gonna be very trendy. Cause they're gonna have a lot of personality. And normally my great ideas live and in the notes app. Okay, man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It happens. It happens.

[Monet X Change]

It does. But this time I decided to actually make it happen. So I went to Wix.com answered just a few short questions and their AI site builder gave me a beautiful business ready website in minutes that looked exactly how I imagined.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now WIX puts incredible website creation at your fingertips. That's why you should keep using them. With the AI site builder you just answer a few prompts and boom, you got a personalized site ready to go. Now if you'd rather start from a template, cause I use WIX as a template before my first website I did with Wix through their template and it was actually great. They got over 2000 designer made options that are fully customizable and come with built in business functionality. The interface is all drag and drop, so you can tweak everything without touching a single line of code. There's an AI image studio, amazing design effects. And if you're selling products or booking services, WIX has the functionality built right in. No add ons needed.

[Monet X Change]

And let me tell y' all something. WIX is a pioneer in website tech doll like for almost 20 years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I built my first website on Wix.

[Monet X Change]

Did you really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. The first ever Bob the Dragway.com, i built it on Wix through one of their template designs. It was so fantastic, so easy. It was super easy too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Granted I was a coder cause I was doing MySpace.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God, you're not coding on MySpace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was coding.

[Monet X Change]

Well, WIX has been in the game for 20 years strong and they know exactly what it takes to make your business look professional, run smoothly online. Ready to create your own website? Go to wix.com that's wix.com to start building your website today. Thanks to Wix for sponsoring our show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, and, and just tweet that we sent you. Just, just. I want them to know. Yeah, they, they need to know somehow.

[Monet X Change]

I'm into it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know that Rush, when you realize that you just got a way better deal than anyone else at the table? That's me when I use Rakuten. Last week I was ordering sneakers from Adidas, grabbed a new pair of sunglasses from Macy's, and then stocked up on Skincare, Sephora. And on top of all those cells that I already had and all those deals, I stack cash back on Rakuten. I stack cash back with Rakuten. Yes, that's the part that gives me every single time. Rakuten is the most rewarding way to shop because you can stack cash back on top of sales and deals at your favorite stores. Like Adidas, like Macy's, like Sephora, like Best Buy, like Nyte, like Ulta, all These places, so many more. Think, think. Fashion, beauty, electronics, home essentials, travel, dining. It's all in there and it's all Roberta.

[Monet X Change]

Very easy to use. Here's how you do it. You sign up free in seconds. Shop through Rakuten. I'm in. And your cash back gets sent to through your PayPal or a check Girl, modern technology.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sign me up.

[Monet X Change]

The idea is simple. Stores pay Rakuten for sending them shoppers, and Rakuten shares that money with you as cash back. 17 million members are already saving and Rakuten members have earned over $4,004.6 billion in cash back. Now it's your turn. Start stacking sales on top of cash back and feel what it's like to know you're getting the most out of your every purchase. Download the free Rakuten app or go to rakuten.com to start saving today. That's R A K U T E N Rakuten. Com.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I've ever needed to be held back before. And while I. I've never lost control like that before, I did.

[Monet X Change]

I lost control of that. And it's only happened a few, like three times in my life. I literally lost. I blacked out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's only been one time in my life where I think I would have had to have been held back. But it never came to fruition. It was when my childhood friend asked to stay with me and my brother during college. And then he. And then he robbed us. And I remember thinking to myself, I remember think. I remember thinking to myself, if I see him, I will try to kill him.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy, that story. I don't know. Do you remember what episode of podcast it was? You told a story. That story is still so wild. That is a crazy story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to, like. I used to, like, fantasize about seeing him and, like, brutalizing him.

[Monet X Change]

That was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would fantasize by sneaking up on him like, he stole. He stole all of my savings.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He sold my PlayStation. He trashed our home, broke the door thing. And we were so poor. We was. We were so poor, we ended up getting evicted because of that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because he took my money.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm not gonna say his name.

[Monet X Change]

But why, why, why are you trying to protect him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His name was Antonio.

[Monet X Change]

I wish. I wish I knew that nigga scammed me. I wish I knew his name, actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bleep his name. Cause I don't want to start drama. I don't want him to break into my fucking house again, steal my shit. Because I never. I can never prove it was him. And I know it was him.

[Monet X Change]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I don't. Because I can't prove that it was him. And what made me even more upset was that when the cops came. You ever. Do you know that they don't use. You know in movies, the fingerprint dust is white.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In real life, it's black.

[Monet X Change]

Huh? Why would've just changed it based on the surface?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know, bitch. My whole kitchen covered in black dust. The whole kitchen covered in black. And the cops don't give a fuck. They will just leave your shit raggedy beat up and busted.

[Monet X Change]

Cause they don't have. They don't. Yeah, they don't know. I'm like, all right, we did our job. We out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember when the fucking.

[Monet X Change]

When that. I don't know. I mean, I still don't know who did it to this point. That person that stole all my jewelry in New York City. The cops came, bitch. They were, like, searching the hotel room. Look, it was a hotel room, so I didn't have to, like, clean it up. I was leaving the next morning. But, like, they ran track hotel rooms. I sure do. And I'll do it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you leave hotel rooms messier than I do?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Bob, you're a tornado.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not. I don't even unpack. I live out of the suitcase. I will be in a hotel for a month. I will live out of suitcase. The girls who get to hotels and put their. People who get to hotels and hang their clothes and put them in drawer, that's insane to me.

[Monet X Change]

If I go somewhere for more than a week, I'll do so because I want to wear different outfits and stuff like that. Bob, you. We literally do the podcast when you are doing a thing. When we have to do a podcast. You're at a hotel, bitch. Your entire room is turned upside down. I don't know how, but your room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is turned upside down.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, am I. Jacob, am I crazy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Upside down is.

[Jacob]

I'm not qualified to speak on my man in that capacity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Upside down is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. You always, like. And you literally come. You're like. You're like. You're like, how did. How did. How did I. How did my room get so crazy? You literally say it on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I may have said it once or twice, but for the general. For the general also. I let. I always. I do not put the. I don't put the. Don't disturb. I'm like, come clean this up.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I love that. But they just. They just do it at the most inappropriate times. And, like, there's no reason why you should be knocking. Knocking to clean my room at 8 o' clock in the morning? Nigga, it is too early to be. Why are you knocking? I am still asleep. And then they don't hear you through the door. You can say, no, not now. They'd be like, no, I'm okay coming in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get two knocks, I get a knock, knock, twist. I'd be like, please, please.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, bitch. This might be y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

This might be inappropriate. I'm sorry, but if I am naked, I am not putting my. Cause I said don't come in, and you came in, so I'm not covering myself up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you an exhibitionist?

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm not a voyeur or an exhibitionist. I don't get pleasure out of any. Either of those things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, you wouldn't watch your neighbor jerk off if the windows were open, if it was hot.

[Monet X Change]

But does that mean you're into if I. If I. If I.

[Jacob]

That's voyeurism, not exhibitionism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Manet said I'm not into voyeurism or exhibitionism.

[Monet X Change]

If I smoke meth one time, doesn't make me a meth head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But if you murder one person, you're a murderer. If you murder one person, you're a murderer. You're not a serial killer, but you're a murderer.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So if I. If I. Someone. But how. How often I. That's literally never happened in my life. I've seen my neighbor jerking off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to have a neighbor who would jerk off with. With his. Right by the window with his windows open. When I lived at 945Amsterdam.

[Monet X Change]

Did you. You never showed me this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I couldn't time it.

[Monet X Change]

Such, like, amazing attractions over 945. Handsome. I mean, never shared with me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd have to sit in my bedroom and lean back. And he was this guy, and he wasn't hot, but it was hot, though. He would always jerk off right by the window. Cause you remember my alley. I would. It was just a bunch of windows all. We were all just looking to each other's apartments.

[Monet X Change]

That's some New York City shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like my apartment, I lived in the longest in New York City. When I looked out my bedroom window, I was looking into someone's bedroom. When I looked out my living room, I was looking into someone's living room when look at my kitchen, I was looking into someone's kitchen and one of the bedrooms. If me and my neighbor opened our window, we could grab each other's hands.

[Monet X Change]

So New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how close we were. That's how close the walls were. I had. I had no street access. But I will say this, baby. That street was so fucking quiet.

[Monet X Change]

You're the Amsterdam street.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Amsterdam. My apartment was so quiet. I never knew what people meant when they come out loud. I was like. Like, it is so quiet. I had a back. I had an alley facing apartment. It was just so, so quiet over there. And my apartment was. I never heard noise.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you had the typical New York City noise, like sirens and shit. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Barely. Barely, baby. When I moved to motherfucking Washington Heights, that was a level of. I had a first floor corner apartment. I had never experienced noise like that in my life.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not know that neighborhoods could be that loud.

[Monet X Change]

So you're saying that black and brown neighborhoods are louder than others?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying my corner apartment was louder than my alley facing apartment.

[Monet X Change]

And what was the predominant ethnicity of the people out there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dominican in the. In the Heights and over in. On. On the Upper west side? It was a lot of Africans, actually.

[Monet X Change]

In your neighborhood, Bitch, there was one African restaurant on your block. It was predominantly African.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There were a lot of Africans on my block and Middle Eastern people.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know if that's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is true.

[Monet X Change]

The Upper west side is notoriously white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was at the very top of the Upper west side, Moneta. I don't want you to tell me my block had a lot of people of color on it. I'm sorry to break the news to you. I hate to break the news to you, Monet, but I wasn't at 76 in Broadway. I was at 106 in Amsterdam. I was at the tippy top of the Upper west side.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Don't forget it. So stop saying the Upper west side. Nigga. You would. You lived in Harlem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Harlem doesn't start to 125, but we can have a conversation.

[Monet X Change]

It starts at 110. Actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, that's Morningside Heights.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. See, this is. We talking about y'. All. Y' all transplants love to break, like, break it up to small.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't break it up, bitch. It's already broken up. I didn't. I promise you. I didn't draw the lines.

[Monet X Change]

Morningside Heights is basically. Is Harlem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Morningside Heights and Morningside Heights. And you're not from Harlem, okay? You're not from the Bronx, where they will fuck up any nigga from Brooklyn, and you're not from Harlem, where they will fuck up any.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I want to show this. See, there's no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't see that. Screen grab is into the group. Monet was about to put her hand behind them. You fucking slow mo ass bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Like a Beauty Influencer from 2008. I Want Y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

This, this. They not break it down into these small subgroups. It is Harlem and it's Upper west side. Those are the big neighborhoods.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Monet? Okay, first of all, this. There are no parameters on here. And what you'll see is, if you look, Harlem is not over on the Broadway side. Harlem is to the. Is to the east. It's not to the west. And then you have West Harlem up above where it says Broadway. Where it says Broadway. Up of that's Morningside Heights. And I bet I. I'm willing to.

[Monet X Change]

If you zoom in, I'm talking to a bigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then I'm willing to bet a dollar if you zoom in.

[Monet X Change]

That's what it said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It would say Morningside Heights, but you'll also notice that it doesn't say the heights. Are you going to now say that the top part of Manhattan is just called Upper Manhattan?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on.

[Monet X Change]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So based on your map, there's no Washington Heights. It's just Harlem. It's there.

[Monet X Change]

I just didn't go there. I just go for that far up Washington Heights is there. It's the big neighbors at Washington Heights. West Harlem, Harlem. Upper west side, Upper east side, East Harlem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what neighborhood is Upper Manhattan? Since we're looking at the map, since your map is the God of the universe, since apparently your map is the governor, what neighborhood is Upper Manhattan?

[Monet X Change]

That is by Washington Heights, man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What neighborhood have you ever heard called Upper Manhattan? So since this map is the God of the world, what neighborhood is called Upper Manhattan?

[Monet X Change]

That is just a big term for those. All those neighborhoods, Washington Heights.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, your map's stupid. It doesn't work.

[Monet X Change]

It does work. Upper Manhattan is not a neighborhood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Upper Manhattan is not a neighborhood.

[Monet X Change]

Real New York City. Also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is Apple Maps.

[Monet X Change]

This is not Apple Maps, bitch. This is Google Maps.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People who use Apple Maps are insane.

[Monet X Change]

I don't trust them. They shouldn't be trusted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apple Maps, if you are a goofy. If you use Apple Maps, they're bad people.

[Monet X Change]

That's the people who. Yeah, people. People who navigate with Apple directions. Or they're. They're. They're clinically Insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say this, though, honestly, I feel bad that Gen Z will never have the experience of going to your printer and printing out MapQuest directions.

[Monet X Change]

So I never had to do that for myself to navigate, but as a kid, yeah, we had to do that. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Printing out MapQuest directions was a thing. You. You would go to your computer before you leave, you have to spend time map questing it. And then, I mean, obviously you would not MapQuest. Maybe to get to like a.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the fuck are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

I'm listening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talk. You're like sticking the scissors in your nose.

[Monet X Change]

No, just the handle. I just wanted to do this, see if it could fit. It can't fit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just pull it out. You can pull it out because it's not pierced. You can ink it out.

[Monet X Change]

Right?

[Jacob]

Can you explain what's happening for our audio listeners?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet has a pair of scissors. Imagine the kind that Taylors use that have the little. It looks like a Q1.

[Monet X Change]

Looks like. Do you know what it's for?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tailoring?

[Monet X Change]

No. Do you know what that little tail is for?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, what's it for?

[Monet X Change]

It's for your finger to help to guide the scissor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. So that little part. Monet is sticking it in her septum ring and. But it didn't fit and it was. It looked like she's shoving scissors up her nose.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, I forgot. Bob, you saw the septum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

Why did you take it out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It fell out one night in. In Miami when I was dancing and I was just over it. Like, I didn't. Because if my septums would, like. I don't know if everyone. But my symptoms, they would heal pretty quickly. I think I'm. I'm part Wolverine on my dad's side. My dad's like a quarter Wolverine. And I remember being like, I have to go. I was on tour and I remember specifically I was looking at Milk when it fell out.

[Monet X Change]

Like the drag queen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, a carton of milk. Yes, the drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just getting clarity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So me and Milk were dancing and then I felt it fall and I was like, I have to go get this fixed tomorrow if I want to keep my septum ring. And I just said it was my second time getting my septum pierced anyway. Actually, my third time, technically my third time, because the first time I got it pierced, it was crooked and they had to take it out and repierce it immediately.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I just said, you know, I had it for years. I'm good now. I don't want to. I don't want to go through this anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Damn. Yeah, I feel like. Yeah. Septum ring was such a big part of your personality for so long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you made it a big part of my personality, but I wasn't making a big part of my personality. I just had a septum ring.

[Monet X Change]

When I say that, like, it was a very. It was a big part of your aesthetic for a long time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, I did have a very large septum ring.

[Monet X Change]

It was very big.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was pretty big. But I wouldn't. I would never wear it in drag, though.

[Monet X Change]

Well, because Bob had one. It didn't go. It didn't. It was. It didn't connect all the way around. So you just like, flip it into your nose or something like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you just go like this. And then the septum would just be in my nose. But I. But I just didn't like the way it looked in drag. I mean, now I'm sure someone's gonna find one picture of me with a septum ring and be like, oh, my God, people online are so ridiculous. I just posted a picture of me wearing some necklaces and was like, I never wear necklaces.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's Bob. That's how you make it seem. Okay, what are the likelihoods that we're all crazy or you're a little hyperbolic when you speak?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, everyone's not doing it. It's you and a couple of your raggedy ass monation people. Now. Now, what are the chances that monation's crazy? All of you? 100%. That's on 100%. But what ended up happening was sometimes Rob. Not sometimes. Often Rob styles me a necklace. If I'm wearing a necklace, it's usually through a stylist. But, like, when I'm doing my own thing, I don't normally wear necklaces, but there was a phase where I was wearing these giant drag necklaces. So I don't need y' all going back in my archives and seeing me in a necklace and be like, I have this scar on my face that's driving me insane. Right here. I picked this. I picked a scab yesterday, and I hate that I did it. And now I think I have a scar forever on my face.

[Monet X Change]

Just put. Just put. Just make it a mole.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, can I show you.

[Monet X Change]

Can I show you something I found the other day?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Stella Artois. Don't give no motherfucking free advertisement to no fucking beer company on this podcast. Cover your walk back. Don't, don't walk with your back to us. No More people like to make fun.

[Monet X Change]

Of the way I get up and walk, y'. All. I. I just did when that happens. I did leg day and my fucking legs hurt. That's why I'm walking like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you do everyday. Leg day. Oh, my God. Wow, y'. All, I got this. This is the jacket that I wore in my Lip Sync the final episode we did. Gonna move into the house when me, Naomi Chi Chi Devane, and Kim Chi all did move into the house. And this is the jacket. I got this jacket at a thrift store. I love this jacket. I absolutely love this jacket.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I was going through stuff as a giveaway, so I'm sending it to my little goodwill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not giving that away.

[Monet X Change]

It's my job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't play with me. Don't fucking play with me.

[Monet X Change]

It's my jacket now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't play with me. Don't. Don't fucking joke around with me. That's not funny. Bring my jacket over here. When you fucking. When you come to get scrubbed with your short ass, you with your Lux London noir wig that you're gonna bring over here.

[Monet X Change]

We shall see, ladies. We shall see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't play with Monae. Either bring my jacket back here or put my shit back on the motherfucking rack.

[Monet X Change]

You're one of my favorite Bob and Monae arguments again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're wrong about this.

[Monet X Change]

Longtime listeners haven't heard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you. And can you admit that you were.

[Monet X Change]

Wrong in this long time? Listeners have heard this story, but Bob, before Drag Race, or at the Drag Race before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was after I filmed it, before it aired.

[Monet X Change]

Bob the Cherry Pop, directed by Assad Yaqub.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna put the post in the media chat so that y' all can see the outfit.

[Monet X Change]

It was Bob's first feature role, and he wore this gold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This one.

[Monet X Change]

He wore this gold gown in it, right? He made this gown for the thing. He wore it in the movie Boom Boom Boom Boom. Years later, Bob is giving. Bob used to, like, you know, I would go to his house, Bob would give me, like, old drag of his that I would wear. And then so he gave me this dress. He's like, monet, you want a dress? I was like, yeah, I would love it. Gave it to me. It's my dress. I wore it a bunch of times to Bad Drag Queen. I wore it around town for a couple years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I wanna be clear, it wasn't. Just let me finish.

[Monet X Change]

Let me finish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you're downplaying. You're downplaying.

[Monet X Change]

Downplaying the Dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't just go, you want this piece of shit?

[Monet X Change]

I did not say that. That's what I said. But you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, monet, this is the dress that I. Cause every time. Monet knows this. When I give you something, I give you the story, the history of every. And Monat knows this. I give you the history of every item. I will give you. I did this with this. I made this with this. So I did not just give Monet a bag of garbage. And she found it in there. So let's just clear it up, okay?

[Monet X Change]

But you gave it to who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gave it to you.

[Monet X Change]

You gave it to me, Right? So it's my dress. And I wore it for years, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I wore it to gigs. I wore it to nice things and wore it around. I wore this dress. I wore it a lot. It was falling apart. The sleeves. This one was a mess, right? So I was doing this show called Bad Drag Queen at Industry Bar on Tuesday night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm getting. You know what I said? I've never crashed out. I'm about to crash out right now. I'm about to get. I'm about to have to be held back by this fucking mannequin behind me. Keep going.

[Monet X Change]

And then. So I have my show called Bad Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Another thing that I gifted you, that.

[Monet X Change]

I made, that it went through the roof when I did it. Honey, we turn it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keep talking, bitch. And then.

[Monet X Change]

So it was a song called Bad Dragon in New York, where the premise of the show was I would get contestants from the audience, three to four contestants from the audience, and they would go backstage, and I'm so mad at you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna jump in now. Cause I'm gonna let you tell too much of the fucking story. No. Because you told enough.

[Monet X Change]

And they would put on bad drag, like, some, like, clothes. Basically, I would bring clothes from my drag wardrobe that I was done wearing so the contestants can wear in the show, and they can, like. And they would have to lip sync, do a little pageant walk, and then, like, to make. And so, you know, they get messy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just to be clear. Not stuff like. Oh, it's like, stuff money. I can't believe I ever wore this.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The show's called Bad Drag Queen because.

[Monet X Change]

The contestants are bad, not the clothes. So anyway, so then. So I brought. So the gold dress. Again, y'. All. The sleeve was hanging off. It had holes. This dress had been through it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So fix it.

[Monet X Change]

So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also you. You're over. I have the dress here, so you're not going to act like it was tattered and torn in pieces. The dress was not. There was no sleeve hanging off.

[Monet X Change]

There was a hole in the sleeve. There was a big hole in the back of the sleeve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me give this motherfucker. Keep telling your Taylor. Can you grab that gold gown? That sequin gold gown?

[Monet X Change]

Introducing Taylor as Tyler is my favorite thing. And then so. So I put it in the bad drag queen pile. So then one night, Bob was in town, and he came to come visit me at work. And we're backstage at Industry, and Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is looking through the bedtrack pile, and.

[Monet X Change]

He'S like, monet, what is this? I'm so mad at you. And I was like, what? He's like, monet, why is this dress in a vaginal. I was like, what? I was like, I don't wear it anymore. He's like, monet, I gave you the dress. I was like, I know, but I've been wore it. He's like, monet, I wore this in Cherry. Bob, I can't believe you would put this into bad drag queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When shitty amateur drag queens get drunk and spill drinks all over themselves, I'll just put it in the bag of shitty drag y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did this leave like, it's hanging off to you?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Bob, you probably fixed it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this Monet acting like it was thread bear?

[Monet X Change]

You probably fixed it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's wig hair. Do you think? No, Monet. The wig was Monet. It was not falling apart. As you. As you. As you like to insinuate.

[Monet X Change]

I think you probably fixed it, Bob. That dress. Bob, I wore that dress a lot. That dress was falling apart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. I still can't believe it. And Monet was like, yeah, just threw it in the. In the. I threw. It's right next to that rainbow dress.

[Monet X Change]

I want to give it. Give me this dress. I'll take this dress. I was like, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, what are the contestants? There were still clothes. They didn't have only three outfits. It was a bin full of drag.

[Monet X Change]

But the nice. Like, the nicer things which was dressed. This dress was one of the nicer things in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I want to be clear. This jacket you have now, my pants for my special. My orange wig. They're loners, okay?

[Monet X Change]

That's not how that works. You gave them to me. Now they're loners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, these are loners.

[Monet X Change]

They're mine. I keep them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're loners.

[Monet X Change]

I keep them for when you. For when I need to, like, sell your things. And make money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling right now. I'm not playing with you. I'm gonna be upset with you if you ever sell any of those things.

[Monet X Change]

What if I need the money?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then sell it to me, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

What if you can't? What if you need the money too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then Jacob's parents will buy it.

[Monet X Change]

Rolls of deed?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yup. That is so irritating. I'm still mad at you for that. That was crazy. And you knew what the dress was when you put it in there.

[Monet X Change]

To be honest, I didn't know you were that sentimental about it. I really didn't know it was that sentimental at the time. Now, over the course of our friendship, I see how sentimental you get about things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet was like, what? This is just the dress. Monet's like, monet put my money. Will put this dress in the fucking thing. It's literally just the dress you won drag race in. It's literally just your crown and scepter. Like, what?

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what is that red V on that dress? What is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is a. It's just a. I'll show you. I am the champion of After Midnight's March Madness comedy thing. I think I am now technically the most winning person in the history of After Midnight.

[Monet X Change]

How many wins you got?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've done the show five times and I've won four, and I'm doing it again.

[Monet X Change]

I have a better track record than you. I did it three times and I won three times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You done it twice?

[Monet X Change]

Twice. Twice. I did it twice and I won twice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, I was two for two by that time as well.

[Monet X Change]

But you're not now. You're four for. You're four for five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I want to tell someone this. Like, people were talking about. I don't know if this sounds really petty and ridiculous, but I was talking about the. Hear me out. Hear me all the way out. Before you jump. Before you jump to conclusions. In my humble opinion, the fact that I have three wins on my season is more impressive than having four wins on a longer season. I won almost half the challenges my season. So I won three episodes in like six episodes or seven episodes, something like that. So in the first six episodes, I won half of them. So if you win four, if you win four times in a 16 episode season, it's not the same as winning three times in an eight episode season.

[Monet X Change]

Your season only had eight episodes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eight or nine. Let me Google it. Jacob, can you look it up real quick? It had either eight or nine episodes.

[Jacob]

Your season. Season eight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's eight or nine. Maybe, maybe ten, but I think it was eight or nine.

[Jacob]

Ten episodes.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you won three out of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the last two episodes, no one wins.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, in 16, no one wins the last two either. So there's 14.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there's eight episodes that you could win on. And I won three of the challenges.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then in theory, I won the last episode. So, like, I kind of have four wins.

[Monet X Change]

So someone like Anya Simone, who they won four in 14. Oh, no, I think Simone's season had 14.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not, not impressive. They all have more. Shea has more wins than me. Anya Nerve has more wins than me. A lot of queens have more wins than me. Train of the Tuck. Train of the Tuck has more wins than anyone. Yeah, she's the most. She's the most challenge winning drag race in the history of Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

She's also done it three times, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've done it three times.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So why are you discrediting her?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not discrediting her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you did, you were like. Yeah, but she's done it three times.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why, why would. Are you jealous of your Twitter?

[Monet X Change]

Trinity And I, I, I'm so happy Trinity lives in la. Now I can finally have like a real best friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, enjoy that. And do. And, and maybe y' all should, you know, let's see, let's see. Let's see if you how she feels about you taking her dragon, throwing in a trash can and rolling it down the hill and then putting an amateur bodybuilder in the dress for laughs. Let's see how money has some brolic ass yoked man trying to cram his. Just like shoving his giant arms into my dress.

[Monet X Change]

Uh, that was so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is hilarious. Like ripping my shit to shreds. That show was actually quite brilliant.

[Monet X Change]

Rad Dragon was a great show. It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monet X Change]

It was. I had. Okay, before we go, last thing, out of all your gigs in New York City, what were your top three that you love doing for me? My top three I loved was my number one was my one on one show I did on Saturdays. Favorite show where I loved. Huh. Where Hardware. Then I loved my sad ass show. My one woman show was my favorite. Bad Dragon was number two. And third would have to have been. I wish. See, Bob and I never did like a show together. I think I would have loved that. But it had to be the Help with Pixie number three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Help was a good show. My number one is the Bob show. Number two is probably the Help. And number three, it could be a Toss up. Because I really enjoy doing Sisters with Frosty Flakes. And I also love doing Bad Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

I love the Bad Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you have a concept real quick. Bad Drag Queen. The way it works is we come out in the beginning, top of the show, and we. I come on top of the show, and I would do this. I would open with a number and then I would tell the theme of the show. I pick three people from the audience who are gonna participate in a pageant. They're all doing a pageant. And then they go backstage. And then a 10 minute ticker shows up on the screen. During this 10 minutes, they have to get in full drag. They get backstage. There is makeup, there are wigs, and there are dresses, and there are shoes. And then I would do some comedy and then I would perform a number. And then when it comes out, we name them by putting cardboard. Cardboard name tags over them. One by one, they come out, they get their name. So there's a presentation. It's such a funny idea for a show. The presentation. They'd come out and I'd make up facts about them. I would name them, and then we would do the Q and A where they come one by one. We'd ask them questions. And then the final step is we'd have a talent show where we would play a song. They would lip sync to whatever number.

[Monet X Change]

We would rehearse in the chorus of a song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And then the audience would clap for who their favorite was.

[Monet X Change]

And then the top two would lip sync for their life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. And then that one would win. Like, they won money, didn't they?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think. I think. I think it was a hundred bucks, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Or maybe like, maybe like whatever it was, it was something. It was obviously low lift, but low stakes. But it was honestly a really fun idea.

[Monet X Change]

And people. Let me tell you something. People would. It was such a fun, successful night. Cause people would just always want to come because a. To get the chance to do it because there was no pressure. And then people would bring a lot of their friends and family because they would just want to see their brother get up and drag or whatever. It was always. It was always a fun night. I love. Honestly, I think if I was. If I was this. If I was still a local queen in New York, that show would still be going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Egypt was born from that show.

[Monet X Change]

She was. Egypt was born from that show. And that was third. That was one of your top three. Or it was in tie with something else. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also some of My favorites from that show were Larry, Darnell, Penn Whitfield, when Larry would come by and get up there. I've actually competed before.

[Monet X Change]

Did you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were hosting, and I competed.

[Monet X Change]

Did you win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember. I don't. I don't remember.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, was this a concert that you came up with or. Chris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me and Bob came with it together.

[Monet X Change]

Bob Pontarelli.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because before it was me and Bianca show, right?

[Monet X Change]

And it was called, like, Rider funny or funny or fry or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Funny or fry. Yeah. Yeah. Where it was actually, we had a great crowd. It was me and Bianca reviewing YouTube clips and stuff throughout the week, Social media stuff. And we would just read each other and then read the clips and the people in the clips. Yeah, that was a fun show.

[Monet X Change]

It lasted so short. It was like. Like a few months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Bianca went off to. Then Drag Race came out. So Bianca. Me and Bianca did it after she filmed Drag Race before it aired.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Bianca went away, and then it became bad drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Work. All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a fun one. All right, y', all, thank you all for joining us today. Check the TikTok to find out who had the longest hair plot twist. I mean, spoiler alert. It's gonna be me.

[Monet X Change]

It's not easily. It's actually gonna be May. Cause that's what today is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So where are we measuring from?

[Monet X Change]

We're gonna be in the middle. You wanna start from here? I wanna start from here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, let's start from here. We'll start from. Let's do your little thing. We'll start from here. Cause I got a little. Cause I got little moves I want to do, too.

[Monet X Change]

You see? See, I'm not trying to do moves and do sneaky. You're trying to be sneaky and do moves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got moves. I want to do two.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause I believe when you measure a braid, you got a zigzag. Right?

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And so I'll do that too, then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gotta follow the braid. Right.

[Monet X Change]

I'll do that too, then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. Jacob, who do you think is gonna win?

[Jacob]

I don't know enough about Mune's wigs and drag wardrobe to accurately make that assessment, because I don't know what wig she has. I know you have some very long wigs, and I think off the top of my head, you probably will win. But I also. But I also. That's only based on my knowledge of what I've seen from you. And I also think it's quite equally possible that Monet has something that I haven't seen that is a high possibility. So I, I, if I had to really say. But I. I'm saying this without a full scope of knowledge. Make an informed decision, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're wrong. Jacob, if you're wrong, me and Monet are both going to get on your back and you're doing a pretend push up, flattened to earth.

[Monet X Change]

All right. I have to go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll see you soon. I'll be here.

[Monet X Change]

I want to see you very soon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, swing on by and get embarrassed. And take my jacket off where you do your push ups. I don't want you ripping these arm sleeves too.

[Monet X Change]

Goodbye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bye, Sam.