The One About Influencers II

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Influencers II"

Release Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change riff on all things influencer—what it means to influence and be influenced, how influencer culture intersects with race and identity, and their own brushes with digital celebrity. The two also detour into hilarious debates about language, personal experiences with racism, showbiz pay, and social media economics. Layered with their signature humor and sharp cultural commentary, the duo offers fresh perspective and plenty of laughs on both serious and light-hearted topics.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Support, Jealousy, and Pit Stop Shenanigans

Timestamps: [02:37-03:23]

• Monét claims she didn’t watch Bob and Miz Cracker on "The Pit Stop," only to admit wanting to “be there” and missing connecting with Cracker.
• Discussion of drag friendships and alleged rivalries:
  • “No, I did not eat eggplants as a child. No, I did not drink grape Kool Aid as a child. And no, you will not turn purple, actually. And yes, you will turn purple if you touch me, because this is makeup.” – Monét [03:58]
• Makeup mishaps: Cracker accidentally left purple makeup everywhere due to lack of setting powder.

2. Language, Identity, and "Gatekeeping" African Americanism

Timestamps: [04:34-12:05]

• Lively debate about terms like “colored,” “Negro,” “African American,” and the significance of inherited ethnicity among Black Americans and those with Caribbean or African heritage.
• Notable exchange:
  • “It’s not about gatekeeping. It’s just about, like, I don’t know, I, I, I mean, I am African American. And I guess everyone is now. BB’s African American. You’re African American.” – Monét [10:06]
  • “Because I was born in America. So what does that make me? My experience is that of an African American in America.” – Bob [07:46]
• Cultural and generational differences around language among Black communities, and personal family anecdotes about racial terminology.

3. Race, Segregation, and Generational Memory

Timestamps: [12:11-14:44]

• Dialogue about older generations’ experiences with racism in the US, including practices like bringing portable toilets on road trips due to segregated bathrooms (“My mom…they had to take a traveling toilet…because they couldn’t use the bathrooms anywhere they stopped.” – Monét [12:40])
• Discussion of bodily function logistics—Bob and Monét’s typically absurd but relatable tangent on the difficulties of peeing with different anatomy at festivals and on TV shoots.

4. Shout-outs and Listener Engagement

Timestamps: [14:53-17:16]

• The duo revives shout-outs to fans, with Monét shouting out listeners who wear silver nameplate necklaces, and Bob those in gray sweaters.
• Banter about narrowing down target shoutout groups—Monét jokes about Bob being “open-ended” and shouting out everyone.
• “Bob constantly tries to put—you see y’all ever have a friend that's always trying to put you in a box to try to limit you? That's Bob.” – Bob [16:05]

5. Theater Roots and Touring Memories

Timestamps: [21:07-28:37]

• Monét recounts her experience with Missoula Children’s Theater, traveling across the US to teach and put on plays—detailing the pay (“$325 a week in 2005!”) [26:20] and the mechanics of “Little Red Truck” tours.
• Bob draws parallels to his own opera program gig and both share insights on artist pay, inflation, and the grind of early-career performance roles.

6. Racism in Performing Arts (Personal Testimony)

Timestamps: [28:56-34:16]

• Bob shares a formative and fraught experience with explicit racism while working with Portland Opera as part of a racially mixed cast—being given early call times and other microaggressions.
• “…That’s when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced.” – Bob [28:56]
• Banter ensues about how Black cast members vs. white cast members were treated and how allies (like Bob’s friend Drew) played key roles in calling out racism.

7. Influence, Influencers, and Monetization

Timestamps: [50:07-54:27, 59:39-65:12]

• The hosts deliberate the essence of being an “influencer,” distinguishing TV personalities (like themselves) from pure content creators.
• Breakdown of TikTok economics:
  • Monét: “I have 128.3 million likes…and in my entire career on TikTok, in six years, I’ve made $10,000.” [52:27]
  • Bob: “I have 14.2 million likes…I probably made about roughly $3,000.” [52:45]
• Frustration and confusion about how some creators earn millions, plus plug for Monet’s book sales through TikTok.

8. Book Talk—Reading, Audiobooks, and Emotional Memoirs

Timestamps: [54:27-58:22]

• The crew debates reading physical books vs. listening to audiobooks, with Jacob (producer/boyfriend) sharing his listening habits.
• Bob praises Michelle Obama’s "Becoming," while Monét finds Viola Davis’s memoir “traumatizing but powerful.”

9. Life, Time Management, and "Hustle Culture" Critiques

Timestamps: [59:39-66:23]

• The hosts dissect the influencer advice trope of dividing the day into multiple “days” (e.g., three six-hour days in one for maximum productivity) and lampoon the logic.
• “Have you seen this guy … who’s like, my day starts at 6am and it ends at noon…so by the end of the week, I could fit 21 days in a week. …What the fuck are you talking about?” – Monét [60:29]

10. Four-Day Workweek & Corporate Culture

Timestamps: [65:37-66:32]

• A quick touch on proposals for a federal four-day workweek and speculation about private sector adoption.

11. The “Monet Grew Up Rich” Running Gag

Timestamps: [68:49-70:51]

• Bob and Monet revisit the now-legendary podcast narrative that Monet grew up “rich,” riffing on memes, commenters, and the realities of Monet’s upbringing.
• “You have now started this narrative on the internet how I am like I grew up [rich], which is not true…” – Monet [69:11]

12. Reviews & Audience Participation

Timestamps: [70:51-76:02]

• Reading of five-star reviews and fan messages, a plea to boost ratings for the podcast to surpass their “competitors.”
• Lighthearted challenge and playful boasting about review counts across platforms.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Identity:

  • “It’s not about gatekeeping. It’s just about, like, I don’t know, I mean, I am African American. And I guess everyone is now. BB’s African American. You’re African American.” – Monét [10:06]
  • “Because I was born in America. So what does that make me? My experience is that of an African American in America.” – Bob [07:46]

• On Early-Career Pay:

  • “I was getting paid maybe $325 a week.” – Monét [26:20]
  • “That’s when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced.” – Bob [28:56]

• On Book Preferences:

  • “I don’t like digital books. I like holding a physical book—part of the joy of reading your book as part of the joy of reading books.” – Bob [54:04]

• On TikTok Income:

  • “In my entire career on TikTok, in six years, I’ve made $10,000 dollars.” – Monet [52:27]

• On Hustle Culture:

  • “Have you seen this guy…he’s like, by the end of the week, I could fit 21 days in a week. What the fuck are you talking about?” – Monet [60:29]

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Fun Banter Highlights

• Tangents about “Purple Makeup” and whether eating eggplants as a child makes you turn purple [03:58]
• Drag about online singers & dancers, with Monét dubbing both “cringe," but especially those who overreact to their own high notes [44:37-45:39]
• Singing "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?" and the Fairly Oddparents theme—with much confusion and joy [43:56-44:37]
• Bob randomly bestows shout-outs on people in gray sweaters, while Monét tries to make the criteria more exclusive (“Bob will shout out anybody who’s breathing!” [15:59])
• Heated debate about whether Monet is a "Nepo Baby" or not, with Bob gleefully reading critical comments [70:02-70:31]

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• [02:37] – Pit Stop jealousy and Cracker makeup mishap
• [04:34] – Debate about race labels & African American identity
• [12:40] – Portable toilets & segregated road trips
• [21:07] – Monét’s theater touring origin story
• [28:56] – Bob’s personal account of racism in opera
• [50:07] – Influencer earnings breakdown
• [54:27] – Book talk & audio vs. print
• [59:39] – Critique of influencer hustle advice
• [68:49] – “Monet grew up rich” memes and running gags
• [70:51] – Reading five-star podcast reviews

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Tone and Language

As ever, the episode is a mix of playful shade, friendly argument, in-jokes, and snappy comebacks, all in the colloquial, uncensored language fans expect. Serious issues—race, privilege, income—are given gravity, but punctuated with hilarious banter and deft comedic timing.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a lively sampler of why "Sibling Rivalry" is a fan favorite: razor-sharp wit, candid truth-telling, and a refusal to shy away from the complex realities of modern queer existence—and influencer life—in America.

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

You say you'll never join the Navy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That you never track storms brewing in the Atlantic and skydiving could never be part of your commute.

[Monet X Change]

You'd never climb Mount Fuji on a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Port visit or fly so fast you.

[Monet X Change]

Break the sound barrier. Joining the Navy sounds crazy. Saying never actually is. Start your [e-mail], america's Navy forged by the sea.

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My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm Monet x Change and this is sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, I gatekeep African Americanism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about influencers and influencing and.

[Monet X Change]

We find out what made Monet say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Monet X Change]

I guess there's room for everyone. Let's just say that. Macaroni, eggs, cheese, Mac. Mac. Macaroni, egg, cheese, Mac cheese, Mac. Mac, Mac. Mac is back. Mac back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you watch me and Cracker do the Pit Stop, do you get sad?

[Monet X Change]

I didn't watch your pissed off. I didn't watch a single episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't see. You don't want to support Ms. Cracker?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's you. It's you. I watch Cracker stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't watch. So you watch Rhonda pits off?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, just you. I avoid you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, but so, but so you didn't support her.

[Monet X Change]

Then I started to watch Survivor the other day and it was really good. And then I thought, Monet likes this. And I Don't want to support you. So I canceled every subscription service I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you really watching Survivor?

[Monet X Change]

No, no. But I actually was like. Actually, I did watch the Pit Stop, and I actually was like. I was like, I want to be there. And I kept trying to meet up with Cracker, but it just was not. It was not happening. This ho mad at me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is she mad at you?

[Monet X Change]

My daughter's your bestie now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, to be fair, Cracker and I were besties after y' all for a long time.

[Monet X Change]

I love Miss Cracker and Cracker, I would love to see you again at some point, and I just adore you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did this episode of Bits off, so she got there before me because she was filming some bits before me, and I walked in, and it was literally, like, wicked. I was like, you're purple. Why is she that girl? I love to be a color today. So I just chose. Cause I just felt like being purple. I was like, give it a word.

[Monet X Change]

Let's clear it up. No, I did not eat eggplants as a child. No, I did not drink grape Kool Aid as a child. And no, you will not turn purple, actually. And yes, you will turn purple if you touch me, because this is makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she had a thing. Because of the thing, they didn't have a setting powder, so she was wet purple. So every surface Cracker leaned again, touch was just became purple.

[Monet X Change]

Why didn't she baby powder it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's. That's all about the drag queen school of drag.

[Monet X Change]

You can baby powder colored foundation and go back over in, like, a eyeshadow or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Screaming, colored is crazy colored.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever been called colored before?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, my. My. Some of my family says that's color. Black people, that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Black people saying colored.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. When they were born in the 60s in Mississippi. So they say colored folks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've heard colored folks, but that's different than saying color like. Like. Like you colored. I've said colored folks, but saying you colored is a different thing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Some black people in this house say colored. Whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's like, especially.

[Monet X Change]

Especially older people because they grew up being called colored, right? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think. Do you think we're gonna get to a time when people stop saying nigga? Like is. Nigga is ever. Is nigga ever gonna go through, like a. I mean, Negro used to be. Pop say Negro a lot too. But that's kind of. I feel. I. I feel. Maybe it's my experience, but it feels like we people don't say Negro as much anymore. Obviously.

[Monet X Change]

They were not saying Negro in the way they say. They weren't like, what's up, my Negro? Like, that wasn't. They were just referring to each other as like, as a Negro person, as a Negro American. The term African American really did not start until the 90s, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm saying, will we ever. Will ever like, go through.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think, in my lifetime. No, I don't think so. And just like the prevalence of African American, which maybe, maybe a new word will pop up, people of color popped up, which is a more encompassing thing for all non white people, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you seen the clip of Tammy Roman in the house? I don't know what show it is, but she's like, this guy's in the house. She's like. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Cause they. And when she. Tammy's just in. She's in this like, sliding door, like, smoking a cigarette. And this white guy said, it's her and a bunch of white people. And like, this my next woman. And then they talked about the situation. And he's like, yeah. Cause this guy and he called that man a nigger. And she was like. And she's like, what show? I don't know what show. It's just a clip I've seen on social media. And then Tammy goes, the word nigga should never come out your mouth. And he's like, I was just saying what. I was just saying what he was saying. And she was like, it should never. Then the Latinx woman goes, she was like, how dare you say that. You don't ever sit there and call somebody a nigger. A nigger. And then Tam Ropes goes. And she's like, you don't say either. Cause you. Cause you are. Cause you are Latinx.

[Monet X Change]

Is she smoking a cigar?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a cigarette.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. She's like, yeah, she. I was like, it has it hanging out her mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like. She's like. And then this other man goes, you know what? This is completely inappropriate. I have adopted a lot of black colored kids.

[Monet X Change]

And she goes, can you please send me this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not saying this.

[Jacob]

It was on Real World Homecoming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's what it is. And she was like, and you should not be calling them black colored.

[Monet X Change]

I have a question for you. You and I had a conversation the other day. Do you consider yourself African American?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I am African American, but my ancestry's from Africa. I mean, I do both.

[Monet X Change]

That's not what African American is, though. Everyone ancestry. African ancestry is not African American. Like, is your mom African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was born in America, so I feel like I have African American and West Indian American heritage.

[Monet X Change]

Let's. But you, you, you African American, it's an ethnicity, and you inherit your ethnicity. So how can you inherit your ethnicity for someone who's not, who doesn't have that ethnicity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I was born in America. So what does that make me? My. My experience is that of an African American in America. When I go, when I go sign paperwork, whatever, there is not a, there's not an option for sending American. It is, it says black slash African American.

[Monet X Change]

There's other. There's, there's, there's black or black Americans. And like, for example, like is like, for example, when you see your friends who are born in America but their parents are from Africa, you think they're African American, too. How do you inherit an ethnicity from someone who doesn't have that ethnicity to give to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I think I get what you're saying, but I think as. When you are a black person born in America and you have. I'm having an African American experience in America. I'm not having a West Indian American experience in America.

[Monet X Change]

You're having it at home. At home, you're having an African American experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but as past that, now I'm having an African American experience in America.

[Monet X Change]

I think you're having a black experience in America. Like, you are having a black. Like, for example, if Bibi's walking down the street and you're both just walking, you're both having a black experience in America. But Bibi is the harbornet is not African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so how is my experience different than your experience in America?

[Monet X Change]

I think it's our heritage, what we grew up, what we have at home, the food that we eat, the cultures that we have. My ancestry, my lineage, learning about those things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I learned a lot about and experienced a lot of that being living in America.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. What about when white people learn about it? Are they African American now? Do you learn about whether they learn about it? Learn it, Learning about it. Learning about an ethnicity doesn't make you that ethnicity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob and I grew up in the same neighborhood. And my experiences as, as, as, as a black person, African American is not going to be. Jacob experience as a white.

[Monet X Change]

You're having a black experience, but you're not African. But like, like, for example, like, what is. Let's Google the term determine because you can't inherit. Anthony, for someone who doesn't have it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To give to you African American, let's look it up.

[Monet X Change]

Like, do Your mom consider herself African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on. African Americans are Americans of African descent with strong emphasis of those whose ancestors were enslaved in the United States. They are a diverse group encompassing people who rare. So my father, my father had that experience.

[Monet X Change]

Your father is American?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's American and Trinidadian.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting. Is there anything you consider. I mean, I, I would, I, I wouldn't. I guess I get, I guess there's room for everyone. Let's just say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why, why do you want to gatekeeper African American?

[Monet X Change]

It's not about gatekeeping. It's just about, like, I don't know, I, I, I mean, I am African American. And I guess everyone is now BB's African American. You're African American. African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

African American. My father, My father, who is American and Trinidadian, has that experience.

[Monet X Change]

And where was he raised?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He spent time in Trinidad, America. Kind of like me. Like, I think he spent his first, like, seven years. I think it was American. Then he finally was in Trinidad and he came back. So I met my mom, they had me. And you're having the same experience.

[Monet X Change]

You're both just back and forth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, back and forth across the doorsteill.

[Monet X Change]

Wonder what y' all think in the comments below.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you gotta be so incendiary?

[Monet X Change]

I'm just asking. It's just, I'm just saying you and I had very different experiences growing up. I was not traveling back. I was. When you say you and I were having. I was not traveling back and forth to the Caribbean as a kid. You and I were certainly not having the same childhood experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I think, I think that speaks to the breadth and the vastness of what the African American experience is. It is a very big one. There are a lot of experiences that funnel into what that ethnicity is.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think a lot of African Americans, especially, whose both of our parents are African American, are traveling back and forth to the Caribbean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say a lot, but I said, but it is part of like. Right. Just because it's not a lot doesn't mean it's not still a part of that experience for some.

[Monet X Change]

Again, being black, we have a shared experience because we're black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Correct.

[Monet X Change]

But it's not because we're both African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But my ethnicity from my father is that of African Americanism. Like I African Americanism of being an African American.

[Monet X Change]

African American. Don't say that. We don't say that. We don't say African Americanism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is part of the makeup that.

[Monet X Change]

Makes my parents say nigga.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My dad did. My mom did not.

[Monet X Change]

They say nigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They know they said nigga with a. A H. We don't even say the A because we're. Because. Because we also had that French American experience. So we have the little nigga.

[Monet X Change]

Any families that colored?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think so.

[Monet X Change]

Anyone in your family was ever. You know, we don't have to go deep into this. Anyone ever use a cloud only bathroom? Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I mean, my grandmother lived. My. My grandmother came to the states in the fucking 60s, so probably.

[Monet X Change]

Where to New York City with. Did New York City have segregated bathrooms? I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they did at some. I think some places. I think when you go to like the really white places, like probably like Bensonhurst and shit, I think. I think that existed, but I don't. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

When my mom was a kid, when they would travel on road trip, they had to take a. They took a porta potty. Like a. Like a. Like a old folks. One of those. Toilet. Like a traveling toilet, basically.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is this? What does a traveling toilet look like?

[Monet X Change]

It's like something like it. Like if an old person would. Like if an old person can't sit in the toilet because it's too low. It's like a toilet. They. You basically. It's like a. It's a toilet. It's like a chair with a bucket in it. And then you take the bucket out and you toss it on road trips because they couldn't use the bathrooms and anywhere they stopped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I was thinking? As a person with a penis, it is so easy to go to the bathroom. Whatever. People with vaginas. Like, that sucks. When we were doing the Survivor thing, like the dudes we can just. I mean. And the people with vaginas did as well, but it's definitely a different thing. Like I could whip it out and go anywhere, but I could just whip it out and play with it right here and pistol off the screen. Having a vagina is just so much more.

[Monet X Change]

That is. Why did you have to say all that I could. Why would you. That's just too much. You always have to take it. You always have to take it somewhere it don't need to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, you have. Bitch. You are the queen of going off road, nigga.

[Monet X Change]

And we sing on the screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're having a conversation and we are both. And I try to stay in the lanes. You will give yourself an ATV and off road us immediately. Are you fucking kidding me?

[Monet X Change]

This feel like we're making out. When you went straight to the house Y' all shit on these walls, Ray. Like I don't take it there. You know what I mean? You took it to on the walls, Ray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but when you have a vagina, it just, it makes it so much more complicated. Like even at like festivals when I mean or a place where there are pot apart porta Potties and you have to go use those pot of parties.

[Monet X Change]

I feel you would be at a pot party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel so bad for people. Vaginas who I know they don't have to sit on it, but they, they, they must have great vagina legs and quads. You have to like hover to piss outside. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

You know it probably. Comment below. Everyone with vagina coming below. Let us know what is your experience?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Comment below and let us know. I like that we should start saying that.

[Monet X Change]

We used to do shout outs. We have not done it in a long time. So I just want to give a big shout out to anyone who's wearing a necklace with their name on it. Only if the necklace is silver. Only a shout out to you. If you have a necklace with your name on and the necklace is silver. Silver. If it's gold or if it's something else. I'm not, I'm literally not talking to you. You have to be wearing it right now. Now you have one. You have to be wearing it right now. Who do you want to shout out? Monet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If people do silver, nameplay, jewelry, jail, you should be executed.

[Monet X Change]

I'm giving you a shout out. I don't know what Mon's doing. Who do you want to shout out? Mon? Boo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I'm gonna shout out people wearing gray sweaters. If you're wearing a gray sweater right now or a gray hoodie, I'm shouting you out. They're so cozy, so comfy.

[Monet X Change]

So any sweater like a ca. Sweater vest. We need to, we need to be specific.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is this called?

[Monet X Change]

That's a hoodie. It looks like a hoodie. He says sweaters or hoodies. Can we, can we narrow it? You like gray sweaters, gray hoodies, gray shirts, gray. If you have a gray cat, can you make, can you narrow it down, please?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Bob. Mine is open ended. You listen.

[Monet X Change]

This is classic Bob Monet shouting at everybody. Anyone, anyone live. If you're breathing, Bob will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob constantly tries to put you See y'. All. Y' all ever have a friend that's always trying to put you in a box to try to limit you? That's Bob. I would say, I would say Something about you're limited. See, bring up Wicked. This nigga will bring up Wicked is the last thing he do.

[Monet X Change]

You brought it up last time, and the fans dragged you. Thank you for that, everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no. A few.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I also shout out sound out below where you're listening from? I think it's. So I listened to a podcast the other day, and they were doing that, and they were reading where people, like, were calling. Please don't fake it. Like, genuinely say. Don't be like, yeah, I'm from Kazakhstan. And you sitting right in your apartment in Bayonne, New Jersey. Like, just shout out. Bayonne.

[Monet X Change]

You like Bayonne, New Jersey? Is that your Andalusia, Alabama?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have I ever been there? No.

[Monet X Change]

Is that your Andalusia, Alabama? Like, when you name a random place Bayonne, New Jersey?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. No. I go, I think. Why I gravitate towards so much towards Andalucia, Alabama. Is the. Is the alliteration there? So I need to find baom. Where's the state? Do we have a state with a B?

[Monet X Change]

There's not a lot of alliteration in Andalusia. I mean, the A's, Andalusia, Alabama, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like.

[Monet X Change]

Where'S the alliteration Andalucia, Alabama?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that not alliteration? Am I fucking. Am I not saying the definition of alliteration? Right? That's alliteration.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I guess. Yeah, I guess Alabama, because Alabama has a lot of A's in it. So I guess. And I've been thinking, like, Titanic, Tatanga, Tahiti would be, like, a lot of alliteration.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it is just the occurrence of the same literal sound at the beginning. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have. It's just Andalusia, Alabama, Bayonne, Bethesda. That's alliteration, babe.

[Monet X Change]

What I'm saying, like, it's double down when it's, like, up in there, too. Like, tit, a tat tone. I'm trying to think of a word with a bunch of tentacle. We'll talk about it when we give her a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Do you want to go to Andalucia?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I think we should.

[Monet X Change]

I think. I think I've been.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I've been to Andalucia, Alabama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it exciting there?

[Monet X Change]

No, it was. It was one time in. This was probably two. This probably 20 years ago. It might be 2005 when I was. And I did a play there. I did a production of Snow White and the Seven Doors in Andalusia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. And this is when you were doing the children's theater?

[Monet X Change]

The Missoula Children's Theater?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Missoula. And Missoula is from Alabama.

[Monet X Change]

Missoula's in Montana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Missoula, Montana.

[Monet X Change]

So, okay, so another alliteration. So why don't you ever say Missoula, Montana?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vince, you the one that's learning what it is. I know what it is.

[Monet X Change]

I know what alliteration is. But I like when it's also in the word, too. Like, when it's like a lot of it, when the letters are recurring in the word as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. Um, you know, I've heard y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have heard this nigga talk about this fucking children's theater for eight. Going on eight years now. And I never asked details about it. Okay. Why did you audition in Georgia for a thing in Montana, or you traveled to Montana to audition and that's how you got in?

[Monet X Change]

I auditioned for a show in Columbus, Georgia, to be in the Incline Theater, which is in Minneapolis. And then when I was in Minneapolis, I auditioned for the Missoula Children's Theater, which is in Montana, and I got into that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're in Columbus. You're listening for this thing you get in. You moved to Minnesota?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I moved to South St. Paul, Minnesota, and then there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then how long were you there?

[Monet X Change]

I was there for one whole school year. For nine months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For a school year. And is this why you dropped out of school?

[Monet X Change]

No, this is not why I dropped out of school. But had you. Did you drop? It started as an internship, so I was actually getting credits to do this. And then I got offered a job. So I was working for the Tad. No, not the Tad. That was Missoula. I was working as like, a. We do these productions and these, like, classes inside the classrooms where Two actors come in and teach kids about how to stand up themselves, how to recycle, stuff like that. But there's also a theater company attached to it that does shows. Like, bigger shows, like the gymnasiums in the auditoriums, in the cafeterias, and. And that was in a separate company with, like, kind of more advanced actors. And then the. Peg Whitley. I think her name is Peg Whitley, wrote a play, and she had a part for me in it. And then she. I moved over to the other company for the second semester, and then I took a break off. And then I went back to school for two more years. But when I was there, I took. I went to this. I can't remember. It's like some conference or something where a bunch of theaters come together and they rent out a theater and they hold auditions. You can audition for basically, like 20 shows at once. All these summer stocks, stuff like that. I was offered to get a job at the Missoula Children's Theater, where I went and worked for a summer. And then I went from that. From that job. I went back to Columbus, Georgia, for two years, and I went back to another summer and did another gig at Missoula Children's Theater.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Missoula. So Missoula Children's Theater, they just did. They did stuff all over the country. Why the fuck did they go all the way down to Alabama?

[Monet X Change]

Because there are children in Alabama who want to do plays. Monet. Even children in Alabama do theater, if you can believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, just in such a far. Like, you have the whole Pacific Northwest or all the. Like, I didn't realize it was just so far reaching, like.

[Monet X Change]

So the Godzilla tours, New York. It's pretty. There's a. There's a documentary called Little Red Truck. You can probably go find it somewhere on the Internet. And what they do is all of us go to Missoula, Montana. We learn, we train, we practice, we rehearse. And then we. Each of us two actors. Each company is just two actors. You get in your little red truck. It's a Ford F150. And then you have your entire set and all the costumes in the back of the truck. And then you drive. We drive all across the country doing these shows, like, literally all over the country. I mean, every. And we all leave Missoula, Montana, roughly the same day. I mean, the same day, but roughly. Like, we just sparse it out because all these red trucks just leave town, like, simultaneously. And we drive all the way down to Florida, all the way up to Maine, everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So y' all are Basically, Mormons.

[Monet X Change]

Sure. It's a bit of a stretch, but sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like Mormons for theater. Y' all are just two of y' all just going door to door to different schools.

[Monet X Change]

We're booked. We're not selling anything. We're invited. So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we're not like Mormons, not selling anything either.

[Monet X Change]

Mormons are not. They are. There certainly are. When you get there, you have to pay. When you get in church, you have to tithe. And also, Mormons are not invited. They. They force their religion on you. Whereas we were invited to these places. We were not trying. We didn't have to sell the service. We were booked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how many schools did you do?

[Monet X Change]

They were not schools. It was in the summer, so we were doing like, summer camps and shit. Rec centers, camps, YMCAs, stuff like that. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many did you do?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, we did one every week for a summer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

And when I was at the Climb Theater, we would do one a day for four and a half months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it good pay?

[Monet X Change]

No, horrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. What's horrible?

[Monet X Change]

I worked for Climb Theater. I was getting paid maybe 3. 25 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And inflation. That's not. That's probably about 675 now.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think it's quite doubled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, you can tell what is six. What is 375 a week from? Or 320. It was 325, remember? That was 325. 325 a week from 2005.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. What would that be now? I'm gonna guess. Actually, I'm gonna go a little higher. I'm gonna say 725.

[Monet X Change]

And when I was working in the. In the acting company, I got bumped up to $535 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you make like $1,500 a week? That's good.

[Jacob]

325 a week from when?

[Monet X Change]

2005.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Monet X Change]

You were balling a week, Monae. Not a day. A week. 325 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Back then, rent was like.

[Monet X Change]

Don't back then me. It was not that long ago. I'm not that old, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was 20 years ago. Someone listening to this podcast wasn't even born then.

[Monet X Change]

It's called Years, not years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone listening to this podcast not even born then. Girl, that's 20.

[Monet X Change]

But you were. But you were. And you were an adult. You were a grown ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was not an adult. I was 15.

[Monet X Change]

You're. I've seen your real driver license, bitch. You. You may trick everyone into believe that you're Ooh, yee yee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a Gen X. Anyways, I was.

[Monet X Change]

When he's fully 45.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was 15 back then. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Never to high school. Michelle Visage clock that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so interesting how we both. How we both have such. You know, that's kind of similar to what I did with Portland Opera. To go. Like, it was in a. We were in a. We were in Portland and we did this. This. This young artist program with them where we went to. Only in the state of Portland, though.

[Monet X Change]

You have the inflation rate, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? He.

[Monet X Change]

What I'm asking, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Jacob]

I didn't realize you specifically wanted the inflation rate. I was just.

[Monet X Change]

I just want to know what it is today. Like, what is. I'll do it. 325 from 2005 today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Inflation calculator.

[Monet X Change]

That would be.

[Jacob]

$507.

[Monet X Change]

See, you said 700 when I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, at first I said 575. I was close. I should have just shut my fat ass up.

[Monet X Change]

How much are you getting paid from, poor lady?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's 5:45. It's 5:45. I'm on the government website.

[Monet X Change]

What were you getting paid at the opera company?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I couldn't even tell you. I don't. I don't remember. I could not even guess what it was. I have no idea what it was, to be honest. But that's when. That's when I first. That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced. Like this guy who was running. His name was Sam something. And so it was. So it was. It was myself, my friend Drew Rutledge, who's a white woman. My friend Claudia Chapa, who is a Mexican woman. And the other tenors, his name was Anthony Ballard, who was a black man. Then we had this woman soprano. I don't want to say her name. Her name was Ainsley. She was a soprano. And Stacey was a baritone. Both white.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you saying everyone else's name but not these people's names?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because they were part of the problem.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then so you.

[Monet X Change]

You. So why are you naming the victims and not the offenders? You should protect. You should be protecting the victims. Why are you protecting. Why are you protecting the racist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because we've all spoken about it openly. They never spoke about it. That's their fucking business anyway.

[Monet X Change]

You're protecting racists anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're doing this program and my friend Drew. Drew is Drew. And her sister Cassia. Cassia is a public Defender. She just.

[Monet X Change]

And now she doesn't everybody names. Can I get the last four day social? Cassidy Brown.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a big public defender in Portland and she like, does like a lot of racist training for racist white people in Portland.

[Monet X Change]

She trains people to be racist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's all right. Discrimination training, anti discrimination training.

[Monet X Change]

I need y' all to be racist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, the way these white people be functioning these days, they must all be going to the same school. They all study from the same handbook. And so they told me a lot because I'm just some kid graduating college. Of course I experienced racism in my life. But Portland is a very white.

[Monet X Change]

The vixen said you never experienced racism. That's what you said on tv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said that?

[Monet X Change]

That's what she said. You said, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she said. She said. I said, I don't. Anyway, let's not get into it. Mom will derail me.

[Monet X Change]

She said you said that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did she say? No, she did not.

[Monet X Change]

She said, Monet said she's never experienced racism. She said right next to me on that morning show and said she's never experienced racism.

[Jacob]

So you gave an interview on a morning show about how when you were living in St. Lucia, you didn't experience racism in the same way and it was a culture shock to you when you moved to the US and during some of our beef, I think she, you know, misstated that information with inserting some of her own stuff in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And then so doing this. So we're doing this program and then it's so it was, you know, free people of color and the other seven other four people are all white people. Right. So then it like little things like they would give. So remind you the three.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sorry I said this again. I'm sorry to distract again. But like the. When you put your hands in your nose, your ear, you get so much of your finger in there. It is concerning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is wrong with you?

[Jacob]

Okay. I thought about this and I think the, the issue is though also when you're putting your finger in your ear, you're not putting it straight in. So like this, this is not what, like Monet is so, like, it looks like there's more in it because you're bending your finger and curving it so it's actually not going all the way deep in. It's like curving down.

[Monet X Change]

No, Monet's. Monet is tickling. Her brain is what's going on. Monet's giving herself an at home COVID test.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give myself a lobotomy.

[Monet X Change]

All right. Your friends trains Racist people to be racist. Continue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, yeah. So the three people of color, we're being shipped into Portland to do this. We don't live here.

[Monet X Change]

We're from. This is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up.

[Monet X Change]

This is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're from New York, Texas. I think Anthony's from Florida. I forget where Anthony's from. Like, no, he's from. He was like, St. Louis, Missouri. Like, we're from. Like, we're not from Portland. So we're here to do this thing. Oh, my God. I never told you about this. We're here to do this. To do this opera. So we have to, like, get housing. We're using public transportation. Like, we're figuring it out. These are the people. They live there. And Drew, who is a great ally. Who. Bitch Drew is. Drew is the type of person. She's walking around people calling white people out for their racism every minute of the day.

[Monet X Change]

Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she don't give a fuck. You were doing something, and Drew was like, that's racist, and you should apologize, you fucking idiot.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, speak Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Valentina calls people out for their racism.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's the saying. Speak Valentina. And she goes liquid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then so in this thing, they would do things like give the black. The black people and the Mexican girl different call times. So, like, the entire cast would be called for seven. They would call us at 6:15, and then we would like, be doing things like. Because they just assumed that we were going to be late.

[Monet X Change]

That's rude for your call stars for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

That's rude for your co workers, but for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's just a whole bunch of racist things they would do, you know, make my memory shit. But anytime Drew and I get together, we always cause her. She has a fucking photographic memory. She's like, oh, yeah, on February, this. Blah, blah, blah. He did this. So we had to, like, bring. So then at one point, we got all these racist things that had happened, and we brought it to, like, to like, the company thing. And it was a whole situation. Girl, it was a very racist situation.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it be like that. Do you think if you were. If social media was bigger than you would have, like. Actually, it probably was. I forget. I keep forgetting that you're like six or four. How much younger than you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm six years younger than you.

[Monet X Change]

Jesus Christ. I think if I would have been in college during the. During, like this social media window today, I would have been. I would have been tick tock famous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

Well, me and my friends, we did this thing where we became Obsessed. We bought a camcorder and we would record everything. All of our escapades, all of our manners. We went down to Best Buy, bought a camcorder, and we just documented everything we did. No matter how drunk we got, no matter how boring we were, we were just recording everything. But it was on like actual cassettes, so it wasn't on a memory card. So we had no way. All you do is pop it into the TV and watch it. We couldn't. Like, I didn't know how to digitize it and upload it to a computer. And I certainly didn't know how to use any editing software back then. But I would have loved to have, like, been editing that stuff or if phones had cameras back then, I would probably still have that footage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think me and my. So, you know, I went to musical. Obviously. I have friends that sing well, like me. Like me, dejuan Arcia and my friends from high school. I would have probably been a popular music page. Like we used to get together, you know, let's take a break and say more about. About how he used to sing. Y' all bitches under the rug. It's summertime. But instead of feeling relaxed, I caught myself stuck in a full on meal planning rut. I was so over it, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause, you know, she's on her fitness journey and I was just cycling through the same three dinners every week. And he made his 19 burritos, and I'm eating them too. They turn sour. It's gross. It's a waste of my time. Then, then, then I tried Home Chef and it completely broke the monotony. Now I get fresh, easy to follow meal kits delivered right to my door. And I spend way less time stressing about what's for dinner. Cause y' all know I do parties too. So, you know, sometimes Jacob and Taylor and Bob and their partners come over and we just all make Home Chef meals together. Users of Leading meal kits have rated Home Chef number one in quality, convenience, value, taste, and recipes.

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that what that was?

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Bob, I had this idea for a side hustle.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm all ears.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I want to do custom enamel pins.

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[Monet X Change]

I'm not buying anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're buying it because they're going to be very super niche, they're going to be very chic, they're going to be very trendy because they're going to have a lot of personality. And normally my great ideas live and die in the Notes app.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let me tell y' all something. WIX is a pioneer in website tech doll like for almost 20 years.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you really?

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I know.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh my God. You're not coding on MySpace.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Just, just. I want them to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they need to know somehow. I'm into it.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

So would you have been one these two girls Monet, who. Who sing at their kitchen table and they're singing songs like what the. No, no, not that one. It's that. Well, maybe they did that one, but the one I did was they did a Timmy Turner show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fairly odd parents.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Like, they're doing like, with like a lot of. Of gravitas more than the actual song. All the lyrics to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Can you hit me with. I just want. I just want the part that. That's imp. I don't know it at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the way, to me is an average kid.

[Monet X Change]

The main. The big part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what? What part?

[Monet X Change]

Why would you stop getting loose Pepper Bruce. Chocolate shake or whatever it is is. Do. Do you know it or not? I want to hear it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. What the Are you saying?

[Monet X Change]

They go like green shake, chocolate shake. What?

[Jacob]

Timmy is. They're trans. They're transferring the babysitter to different objects.

[Monet X Change]

This love, you know it or not? Are you going to sing it or not?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can sing it.

[Monet X Change]

You're looking it up. Monet. Monet. I'm a. I saw you. What were you. What were you just doing on your computer? You wouldn't put your hands up. You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I'm not looking at it.

[Jacob]

Okay, close your eyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Close your eyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

God.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Thank you, Jacob. Close your eyes. Yeah, you want to cover them with your big man hands. Yo. With those catcher's man mitts on the end of your wrist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Sing it. You're a liar.

[Jacob]

I'll give you the first word. I'll give you the first word. The first word is obtuse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? Obtuse. Rubber goose. Green mousse. Chocolate mousse.

[Monet X Change]

Guava cake. Yeah. Caught you. Thank you, Jacob, for catching his lion ass bitch. Thank you, Jacob. Detective J. Sneaky little boyfriend does it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was so funny how you just say whatever the. You were saying that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. To be clear, my generation's version of that was. Wow. Well, she sneaks around the world From Kiev to Carolina She's a sticky finger fil po From Madrid down to Belize she'll take you on a ride on a slow boat to China Tell me where in the world is Carmen San Diego, Pakistan, and run a scam in Scandinavia Then she stick them up down under and go pickpocket Perth Will they never Arkansas Steal the Mekong from the jungle Tell me where in the world is Carmen Zander she goes from Nashville to Norway Bonaire to Zimbabwe, Chicago to check us out Slovakia and back I mix it up somewhere in there but they used to get me together she goes from Nashville to Norway Bonaire to Zimbabwe Chicago to Czech, Slovakia Crumping will never not be funny. It's funny every time. And I know, I know it's a serious art form, but this shit, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don'T see it much anymore. I feel like cronking used to be really big, and it's kind of, like, faded away a little bit.

[Monet X Change]

I think it's out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Monet X Change]

I speak it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What. What is. What is your friend singing?

[Monet X Change]

What kind of stuff y' all singing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Like, we would get together, we would, like, do videos of us, like, taking, like, a song, like A Stranger in My House by Samia and just put it in, like, four part harmony and sing like that. Like, we were like, you know. You know, those people that. Those. That guy, those Guys and they have celebrities and they sit in that kitchen and they just do songs like that. We do stuff like that all the time. We were so good.

[Monet X Change]

Can I say that, like, online singers are cringy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said this before. Nothing.

[Monet X Change]

They are, they're cringy. I. I don't know. I don't know who's cringier, by the way. I don't mind the cringe. I am cringy. I don't mind cringe. I'm trying to figure out who's who's worst. Dancers or singers. Who do you think's cringier? Online singers or online dancers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think online dancers. You'll see ashy spots in my hat.

[Monet X Change]

Are you lotioning your hat? What are you putting on your hat?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it water?

[Monet X Change]

So who do you think is more cringey? Online singers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Online dancers. I think online dancers are cringier.

[Monet X Change]

What it is for me about the singers is like when sitting in your kitchen and like when they, when they, they do stuff like the singers do stuff like when they hit a high note, they'll. They'll put a caption on the screen that'll be like, ascends into the air, goes into God mode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never seen that.

[Monet X Change]

Or it'll be like shocked by my own. Or they're always singing a note they literally intended to hit and they'd be like, woo. Have you ever seen that lady singing crazy in the. In the garage?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

She's singing crazy and she. And she goes, I think you're crazy. Crazy. And it's like. It hits a whistle note and she's like, woo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think that's always a part of singing. Whereas dancers. Your body is your body. You can see your foot moving while you're singing. You cannot see what the muscle is doing. Sometimes you really are in a hope and a prayer that it's gonna come out. When you are moving your hand and do pop, locking and dropping. You can see all the pop, locking and dropping. You can't see how these little, two little muscles are moving your throat. Sometimes it startles you.

[Monet X Change]

So you think you're better than dancers because you're saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't say that. I think I'm better than. I think my dance is better than your dancing.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have videos to prove it, baby.

[Monet X Change]

I have videos too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have videos to prove it, baby.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone go Google wizard of Oz in 12 minutes. And look at Monet beat behind, facing the wrong direction, looking upstage when we all look downstage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? Yeah, you would love to bring up a video from 10, literally more than 10 years ago. N. Let's talk about. Let's talk about you on the civil rivalry tour three years ago. Let's talk about that.

[Monet X Change]

Better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about that.

[Monet X Change]

Pick a class in New York, in la, we'll take it. Oh, about any discipline. Discipline.

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[Monet X Change]

It could be Shin Yun. I don't give a fuck. But y' all be like, the amount.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of anything you can do is. I propose. And our systems are trying to get us together, but we're literally never in town at the same time for the next couple months.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, when we hear excuses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Desi, your assistant and my assistant.

[Monet X Change]

So don't talk to her. No, I hear excuses anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But.

[Monet X Change]

Your honor. She's backpedaling. Your honor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You all eat your bracelet.

[Monet X Change]

And it is too small for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me see. I thought. Now you. I thought you don't like jewelry. Now you're wearing jewelry.

[Monet X Change]

Is this mine? Yeah, I brought this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you have. What is that on your lapel?

[Monet X Change]

A microphone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's your mic for the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Yep. Actually, it's not too small a fit. I lied. Do you wear this, Jacob, because this is your little dish.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I wear it.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob be mopping. I thought.

[Jacob]

I thought that was mine. Not in a. I like. I thought you. You took it to me and you're like, is this yours? I thought. I thought it was the conversation that we had around it.

[Monet X Change]

No, I bought it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You probably did. Jacob Bob, acting like this is.

[Monet X Change]

No, I remember buying this. This is. This is Tory Burke, Merch. I bought it on set of we're here.

[Jacob]

So then why were you acting as surprised that it fit in your wrist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

Because it used to be too small. It did. It used to be small. Okay, so why are you acting surprised?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better leave jewelry right now. How'd you shave that hairy ass? Be a hairy ass. Knuckles.

[Monet X Change]

My knuckles are not hairy. There's a little hair. Yeah, the normal amount of hair. Let's see your knuckles, girl. Let's see your mitts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not a hair to be found.

[Monet X Change]

Here's a filter on. It's a filter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a filter, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All. That I guarantee you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think if you were. If there was social media back when you were in college, you would have been a lifestyle influencer or comedy?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no. I'd have been. I've been doing comedy. But I've been canceled too, though. I'd have been canceled for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Canceled for what? What did you do that was cancelable.

[Monet X Change]

I used to be really into really offensive jokes. Really? I was really into like re. I was so into dead jokes when I was in college. They were such a huge hit. I was really, really into them. I was also big into Chuck Norris jokes, which are not terribly offensive, but they're really cheesy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, why is Chuck Norris like the, the, the, the, the actor martial arts.

[Monet X Change]

The actor of martial artist Chuck Norris? Yeah. The joke is that like Chuck Norris is really powerful and intense. So you say something like, Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups, he pushes the earth down. Or you say if Chuck Norris is running late time better slow the fuck down down. Or you say it's all it's about. The whole bit was like, Chuck Norris is a really, really tough guy. It was really huge in like 2004, 2005. Yeah, got it. And I told a lot of dead baby jokes. A lot of dead baby jokes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think there is a difference between New York and LA influencers? So on this brand, on this Survivor branch, if I went on, they were like, there was, there was some, there were some huge people on there. Do you know, do you watch Mr. Beach Beast?

[Monet X Change]

No, but I, I know about him. I know, I know he'd be up to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Carl, who was Carl Jacobs, who was on Mr. Beast channel, he was on a trip. And like I know that I'm conscious.

[Monet X Change]

On the Survivor trip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I'm conscious of, of Mr. Beast, but I never seen Mr. Beast videos. So I didn't know like that Carl is.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Carl is. I didn't know Carl was like part of Mr. Beast. I didn't realize. But they, they're not in LA or New York. They're in like North Carolina or something like that.

[Monet X Change]

That North Carolina?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Is that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they did a lot of their. But there were a lot of LA influencers and New York influencers like Davis Davis Bur Burlesque, who does what's poppin. He does those street interviews. And some LA girls, they were saying like, there's a huge difference in New York City and LA influences. I was like, what is the difference? They're like la. LA only has like the same type of influences of different events. Like all the makeup influences goes to the same brand events, all the food ones, whereas New York is like all of them go to everything. I was like, interesting.

[Monet X Change]

So I, I mean, I'm not really an influencer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So I'm like a TV personality who just navigates the social media space. Like, I also don't even even know how to. I don't like, you know, wisdom just basically dropped how much money he makes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw that the TikTok guy, the. The black fashion guy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. He said that he made a million dollars by March.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's the last. He made $4.5 million from brand deals alone.

[Monet X Change]

What, like, what is he working McDonald's? Like, what's the. What's the other stuff?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think from like the TikTok, he's almost. I think specifically the TikTok Creators Fund. He was like, it doesn't. He's like.

[Monet X Change]

He's like. He's like, that's not even my day job where I work at rental center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like, yeah, he's like the TikTok Creator Fund. He's like, I don't even get paid that much from the TikTok Creator Fund. He was like, a video that will get like 20 million views, I get like maybe like $4,000 dollars.

[Monet X Change]

I do not get that much money from the TikTok Creator Fund. I have friends who make a lot of money from the creator fund. I don't understand how they're making much money. And I have a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Way more than me.

[Jacob]

Because you keep on getting blocked and banned for your fighting with people on lives, and that diminishes your return from how much you. The TikTok will pay you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I do it again.

[Monet X Change]

I have 128.3 million likes. And in my entire career on TikTok, in six years, I've made $10,000 dollars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In six years, I have way less than you. I probably. Let me see how many likes I have. I think I had like, maybe like I.

[Monet X Change]

But I am. I get banned a lot. Like, I am fighting on the Talk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have 14.2 million likes on Tick Tock, and I probably made about. Roughly $3,000 on tick tock.

[Monet X Change]

So, I mean, yeah, I make. I make 1600 a year. A year divided by 12. I roughly make 138amonth on Tick Tock. Roughly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

But there are people who are making. I'm like, how are y' all making all this fucking money on TikTok? I don't understand it. But also, most of my videos are not more than a minute long, so I don't really make that many videos that are more than a minute long. And I started. I started selling my. I did start selling my book on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How's that going?

[Monet X Change]

Um, I mean, it's fine. I mean, most of my sales are. Are actually hardcover copies that are purchased from stores and online. But as of right now, I've been trying to sell my book through TikTok. And by the way, if you are a TikTok tok influencer, you can sell the book too. If you just, if you have the, the, the you just link it to your thing. Because I make more money when I sell it on TikTok. I have, but I have not sold that many on TikTok. I have sold. Let me check right now on TikTok. I have sold 399 books on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say I hate. I, I mean and then so you order it and you get the physical one in the mail or is it digital? Digital?

[Monet X Change]

No, they say no TikTok will send you a book, an actual physical book in the mail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I hate. I don't like, I don't like digital books. I like holding a physical book like part of the joy of reading your book as part of the joy of reading books. And I was reading your book was like to have the physical thing. I mean, I like to hold in the physical thing. But there I posted me reading it on the boat and Andy and I were in Costa Rica and people like morning I read that book. I'm like, I actually did. I read the book cover to cover.

[Monet X Change]

I like to listen to books and I like to read books. I haven't. Obviously I haven't been able to do this in years, but when I used to live in New York City, I would read books on the train on the way to work. When I was working at Jekyll and Hyde, I read the entire Hunger Games series on the way to work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I like like being on a plane. I love reading a book. Like reading it's instead because I consume so much pot. Like I like working out. I like listening to podcasts and music. Flying. I like reading something.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob be in this motherfucking place listening to books. All Jacob must listen to like 20 books a year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think when I listen to them. Don't you feel like when you listen to audiobooks you zone out? If I listen to the audiobook, I will. If I listen. Like Mariah Carey is the only one I listen to. Cause I heard there was a lot of audio. Cause she sings and stuff in her audiobook. But what I would love to do, I like to have the physical and read along to the audiobook. That way I feel like I really like get every single. Cause sometimes also reading a physical one I admit, because of this undiagnosed, allegedly adhd, I have something I would. I would be reading a passage, and I have to go back and read it several times because I, like, started thinking about something, like, literally reading the page. I get to the end of the paragraph, and I had thought about three other things. I'm like, oh, shit, I need to read that again, because I forgot what I was reading.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, how did. What do you use on that when you be listening to books, Jacob?

[Jacob]

A little bit, but not too much. I mean, I also use it to, like, supplement when I'm doing something else. So if I'm, like, at the gym or, like, I listen to books when I'm, like, working or at the gym. Like, if I'm doing photo editing, I don't really like, that's. I can have my brain split between two things. And then because of that, like, I kind of focus more on the book because I can, like, it's my other thing. So I'm not like. Like, if I'm doing something else. Like, if. If I look, if I'm reading something or like, look on my phone, then I'll zone out of the book. But generally I'm listening to it where I, like, have a way. It's like my second thing, and I'm giving my undivided attention to it.

[Monet X Change]

Jake could be getting his migraines, and then he, like, turn. He cut off all the lights and get these ice packs on his head. And then he be blasting, Blasting audio.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Books in this room.

[Monet X Change]

I like, it's so loud. I'd be like, how? I thought you had a mic. And Michelle Obama would be like, when I met Barack. I think Jacob listened to Michelle's book, like, three times or. I don't know if he was listening over a long period of time. I kept being like, how are you still doing this book?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is it? Is it a good book, Jacob?

[Jacob]

Okay, I think you're just thinking I'm listening to Michelle's book when I'm listening to something very different. Because I listened to it once. I listened to it right when it came out. Michelle Obama's book is fantastic. It is worth reading. It is so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, that's becoming. Right?

[Monet X Change]

Right?

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll get it. I'll get it.

[Jacob]

I haven't. I haven't read her new one, but Becoming is incredible.

[Monet X Change]

It's called C comming. And the next one gonna be called Dcoming. It's like a whole. It's brilliant. When you think about what Michelle did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's impossible for you not to think of a stupid, ridiculous. You just. You are incapable of being serious for two seconds.

[Monet X Change]

Incoming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But a really sweet gift Andy gave me was when we were on Civil Rivalry tour. I talked about how I wanted to read Viola Davis book. And then so on our closing night of our tour, because he was with us for some reason, he came to the. To the last week or so of the tour and he. And he brought me Viola Davis book and wrote me this really beautiful note at the beginning of it. It was very sweet.

[Monet X Change]

The. Nice. And Viola Davis would have signed it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I listened to Viola Davis book. I had to stop. It is a traumatizing book. This lady was living a hard life. Like, I was. I remember walking on Running Canyon and being like, I'm gonna start crying. I can't even. Like, I'm in public. She's like, my house burned down. We was fighting. We was hungry. I was like, I can't. This is hard to like, function with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. It's a. But then when you hear stuff like that, it's like, wow. Like. Like to like. I think that oftentimes as a human, like, I hear other people's experiences and what they've gone through in life. I'm like, I don't know how they overcame that. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I had it within me to overco. I think when I hear someone like Viola Davis, what she went through, I was like, you have two options. Like, either you overcome it or you don't. Or you fall victim to it, or you let it take you. So when I hear some of that, it really inspires me to hear someone overcome the thing that felt like it is insurmountable.

[Monet X Change]

They gave a bitch two options. Stripping or lose. Used to dance in the club Brought across from the school I said dance, not fuck don't get it confused had.

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[Monet X Change]

Left it was soon Mama couldn't get it to me I had to get it in shoes. Lord only knows how I got in the shoes. I was covered in doll Now I'm dripping in jewels Real bitch Only thing fake is the boobs um.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't it crazy when you think about it, like, everything that's like. Like, like at least sit. When you sit at the top of the year in January, in just 12 months, which in the span of your life isn't like. Isn't. Isn't a very long amount of time, but so much stuff is going to happen between January from January to January. And sometimes my brain like thinks about that. I'm like, that's kind of crazy. Like, who knows what's going to happen in the next few months? Months.

[Monet X Change]

And what I say again, are you micro dosing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. And then what I've been trying to.

[Monet X Change]

Do, 12 months is like, no, one month, but 12 times. God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what I also think about, I've been trying to do this thing, like, of me, not like, me not like anticipating events, right? Like, I just did that Survivor influencer thing, which obviously a really big thing I've always wanted to do. But leading up to it, I wasn't like, count. Because I remember as a kid, I was the. I was a kid, I would count down to everything. When I knew something was coming, I would have a little tally. I was counting down, I was marking off days and missing so many things in between there. So I've been really trying to be intentional about not like counting down the days or looking towards the thing, like know it's coming and prepare for how it best need to, but just like let time happen in between and not like trying to anticipate the thing and like up everything else that's happening between there.

[Monet X Change]

Have you seen this guy, this influencer, this like money, money, like get them, get to the money bags type influencer who's like, my day starts at 6am and it ends at noon. And then that's one day. And then my next day starts from noon to six and that's two days. So I put two days in, one day. And then my third day is from six to midnight. So I've already got three days built into one day. Have you seen this guy? It is so stupid and it doesn't make any sense. Just because you call a different chunk of time a different chunk of time. He. So I get. He goes, so by the end of the week, I've had 21. I could fit 21 days in a week. And I'm like, what are you. How. What the fuck are you talking about? I mean, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In a, in a, in a big picture, I get it, right? Like let's say like your goal, like instead of like taking, like taking like 9am to 5pm to film two TikToks. And that's like your workday. You do that from 6am to 12. You have finished a workday for yourself.

[Monet X Change]

I get, I understand that that's not a day, a work day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is his work day.

[Monet X Change]

You're the, that's not. You're the one who gets influenced. You get Influenced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I mean it makes sense. I mean it's not how I would fashion my life, but I, I understand how that makes sense to them. Like, because I mean girl, I've. I am the number one procrastinating queen. There have been many, many times where I set myself like, oh, I'm going to take this day and I'm going to focus on writing material about this for the day, for, for a Monday when that now instead of doing it on Monday, it took me Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So now I've like procrastinated and fucked up my day three times trying to do that.

[Monet X Change]

So saying, you're saying, okay, scheduling something for yourself from 6am to noon versus scheduling at a different time. Just because you've skipped on this time doesn't mean you're gonna get it done. If you didn't get it done the first time, how is just calling it, how is calling a six hour chunk a day gonna fix the problem of procrastination?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's. But maybe his thing is not procrastination. Maybe he doesn't. When he says my workday to get XYZ is from 6 to 12 and I finish all the things on my schedule for my workday, then that day is done of the week.

[Monet X Change]

The day's not done because then his next day is from noon to 6. He's just still working, he's just continuing his work and just calling it a new day. That'd be like if I was at work, right? And I was like, all right, today I'm working regular jobs. Job I met. I'm an, I'm an accountant. All right guys, I have showed up. I get, I want, I get paid by the day. So I showed up at 6 o', clock, I did a day, I'm gonna go to lunch. When I come back, I need a whole new pay for a whole new day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, but he's not, he's not operating on, under the construct of a regular 9 to 5 job. And he has to answer the boss. He's a content creator. He's his own boss. He sets his own stuff.

[Monet X Change]

But it doesn't make new days.

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It's just.

[Monet X Change]

All he's saying is I work from time, wake up time and go to sleep. But he's like, I get three days packed into a day day. That's that. Then that's all this one guy stitch you and be like, okay, well my day is. My day is one, is, is one second. Every second is a day for me. So by the end of A minute. I have 60 days. I, I pack 60 days into, into one. Into one minute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But because you're not doing anything that you're not. You're not. You're not working every. You're not, you're not getting. So, okay, sure. But if. So if, if your workday is doing nothing, then. Yeah, then you have packed 60 days into one day.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I imagine that if your workday is. If your work day is from noon to six, then what you're going to be able to get done in that time frame, especially without a lunch break and without. Because he doesn't. He's not factoring in lunch breaks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He said you're assuming that maybe a.

[Monet X Change]

Work day, maybe he packs up maybe, maybe each day. So maybe he's taking three lunch breaks in the middle of every single day, which would be three meals a day. So if you're working from noon to six, right? And then let's say I am working from nine to five. And then he works again from. From. Sorry, from six to noon. And then he works again from noon to six, in my opinion. Now, I don't know this man, but what you do in your third day is going to be greatly impacted by what you did on your first day. Because there's no way you're going to be working three days in one day, 18 hours a day, at the same productive rate that you were working at the beginning. However, if you just take the work you can do instead of trying to be like, I hustle, hustle, hustle culture. I hustle, bitch, I hustle. And trying to make sure you are doing a thousand things in a day, why don't you focus on doing the things you can do well and with quality instead of trying to try to get so much done. Because by the end of the week, you're gonna be burnt out because you have worked three days in a day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, and again. But that's his business model. So maybe his first three days of work, those 18 hours are just recording the content. Right? Which may not be that hard. And then the next three days of his workday, which is just potentially Tuesday, is edit that content. Or maybe in those.

[Monet X Change]

It's not Tuesday. It's still fucking Monday. It's still Monday. Maybe, maybe I'll let him call it Monday Part 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe he's like, he's inviting his work that way. Which. Have you heard this new initiative that they might be. Well, it's not. It's never going to fly. Corporations fucking these busy cor. They would busy. What's the word I'm looking for. Greedy corporations would never would do that, but they're trying to do. Someone proposed a bill to have four work days, three days off. So like. So the work. The week would be Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. You would have Friday, Saturday, Sunday as your, as your, as your weekend.

[Monet X Change]

Was that. That would only affect federal. Federal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but maybe, but maybe. I mean, if it's happening federally, there's a good chance it could, it could try to. It will trickle down into private business. Right? Like you working at, at whatever Sears. They might switch that work, that schedule too. It would affect.

[Monet X Change]

I just met her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, how old does Sears even exist? I'm talking about some fucking Sears. Ew. But it, it, it could trickle down to other businesses.

[Monet X Change]

When they say if you down at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dillard's, it could trickle down to other.

[Monet X Change]

Businesses, you don't think everybody get, Everybody get together going down to J.C. penny. Yeah, yeah, no, certainly. I mean, I think that, that Trump's trying to abolish DEI has certainly trickled down into private businesses like Target and, you know, such ass. You. That was huge. That meme was huge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had that I have a such ass moment in my standup. I. I didn't think people will get it, but it's still. I get a big chuckle at that. I'm like, wow, you. I be like, you old ass millennial Gen Xers and know that joke, you old ass.

[Monet X Change]

You do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do that.

[Monet X Change]

Do that at Gen X, College Y. And see how they say. See how they look at you. You'll hear them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite thing is the door blink. Kamek and I do that all the time. The door blink. We send it to each other. Like when, like when we send. When one of us says something that the other one has no idea, we're like, we just send the Dora meme.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I love when it goes bink, bing, bing, bing. That shit sends me to the moon. But then the guy also said, then he went back on another podcast and he was like, I want to own 10,000 business. Businesses. My goal is to own 10,000 businesses. And then the guy was like, 10,000? How would you. He, yeah, that's my goal. He's like, well, I already. I already own 400. This man just lying out of his ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's not possible.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you can't effectively run 10,000 businesses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not impossible. It's highly improbable. Is that impossible?

[Monet X Change]

I own two businesses and I'm fucking. I'm. I'm treading water.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not treading water. Please, please.

[Monet X Change]

You don't know what I'm doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Release the fucking tax returns. How about that? Release those.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not saying financially. I'm talking about with my. I'm talking about dealing with people like you, energy wise. I'm not poor. I've never said I was poor. I've never even seen why I was poor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know one said you were poor. But treading water, something if a business treading water, that means they're really struggling. Struggling.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm mentally. I'm trading water. You're talking about money. You're the only one trying to. Trying to. You're the only one pocket watching. It's just you pocket watching ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because I have a big. My business is, you know, suffering because of the likes of you.

[Monet X Change]

I went back and watched Monet exchange videos. Monet Grew up rich video. It is one of the best things on the Internet is y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. I'm not getting into I I.

[Monet X Change]

It is a funny. All I'm saying that I'm talking about. I'm just trying to give homegirl a shout out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is also. You have now started this narrative on the Internet how I am like I grew up. Which is not true. And then people.

[Monet X Change]

No, not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. I told you. Me and my grandmother, she had a bedroom of mine, moved to Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

How big was bed?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A full size bed.

[Monet X Change]

Full.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up.

[Monet X Change]

It's called Monet X Change Grew up Rich. A Bob the Drag Queen narrative, y'. All. It is so this video is one of the funniest fucking things. The comments on this fucking video. Monet got classically trained in opera. That's rich enough for me. I didn't grow up in the woods of Wisconsin. Wow. Bob drag Trixie Julietta gonna write a tell all cleaning the exchange. Did she ever sleep in your house? I don't mean when she fainted. Doing all the work you refused to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do as a child.

[Monet X Change]

Monet really said with her whole heart that it's normal for people to own homes in Brooklyn. Maid fell from the crystal chandelier is the funniest of kind comment. Two income households, two cars, a monthly allowance, private music lessons, a game room, a living housekeeper, family owned home in New York City. Had an extension built onto one of their houses. Monet was upper middle class for sure. And I dragged Nepo baby to boot. This is one of my favorite running gags. You're. You're 1% bitch. You 1% bitch. Monet's season 10 engine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look, look.

[Monet X Change]

Was Julietta Cosplay. I can't get over Monet saying her mom had a major position at a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cell phone company to avoid saying she.

[Monet X Change]

Was in the C suite. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to counteract Bob's ridiculosity by reading some. Some five star. Some five star reviews. I'm gonna. I think we should do this at least monthly. I'm gonna start. This is from Hannah. Hannah Clinken. She did it on Thursday and I'm so funny. Five stars. I love this podcast. I've been listening all day at work going through the backlog. Damn, they make me laugh and I learned so much. And their Patreon is a big bang for your buck. Star emoji. This is by Becca X07 on April 18th. Adore this podcast. And Bob and Bob and Monet even five stars. I just want to say that I absolutely adore this podcast. I've been a long time listener.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to get to some of them. I don't know how they far. I'm trying to. I'm on the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a boss trying to try to navigate technology. This is crazy. This nigga can set up streams and do things, but to find reviews on a podcast is bewildering.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. I want to read some too. You don't get to read all of them yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let me finish reading this one. You may already love Bob o', ne, but you'll fall in love with them even more through this podcast. They are just incredible human beings, to be honest. This podcast is not just about but you get to learn more about who they are, their stories, their experiences. I truly consider myself blessed to learn so much from them. And it goes on and on, girl. Becca wrote. Look how long this review is. Becca, I want to read it, but this is a very. I'm going to read the rest of it off camera. It's very sweet.

[Monet X Change]

I want to address this one. I used to listen to this show to go to bed, but the ads have ruined and made this podcast almost unlistenable. Hey y', all, you can get these podcasts completely ad free by going over to our Patreon. This may shock you, but we got bills to pay. I get up out of bed, I put on my clothes because I got bills to pay. So if you would like to get an ad free version of this podcast, please, please, please, please feel free to join our Patreon. It is the best Patreon out there right now. These are these other hoes can't handle us. They don't want it with us. They don't want it. They don't want it. They don't want it at all. And if you guys could leave a review, I would love that right now. Now we are currently sitting pretty at 9.7 thousand reviews. I would love. It would really tickle my pickle. If we can get ourselves up to 10.7, if we can get a thousand reviews, that would be absolutely amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the guy is. We know the download. We know how many of y' all listen every week and y' all just refuse. Y' all niggas refuse. And we have the data of how many of y' all are listening. And y' all just. Y' all like, you know what? I know Monet and bottom one reviews. I'm not doing it.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I mean, I'm not like, oh, Jacob's not logged in on. On Spotify. So I can't check Spotify.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm logged in on mine. Let me. Let me tell you what Spotify talking about. Oh, I just have a real New York.

[Jacob]

Spotify allows you to do like written reviews.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you can see it does do ratings. You can rate. You can rate it. And we can see how many have done it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Rating us on Spotify, even if they write a review. Just give us a rating on Spotify would be fantastic. And right now we're sitting pretty at how many Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I used to be able to.

[Jacob]

16K on Spotify with 4.9 stars.

[Monet X Change]

Stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's nice. 16.6k. Okay, so between Spotify and I think.

[Monet X Change]

I think we can get a 20k.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so too. Well, I'm going to play Bob's favorite game. Let's see how much ratios I have these fucking. Fucking, fucking.

[Jacob]

Are you doing Spotify or Apple?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm on Spotify. They have 10.8.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, shit. Don't. Don't do balding beautiful. Don't do it to yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got it, I got it. I have to look.

[Monet X Change]

Don't do it to yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bald and beautiful. Okay. Okay, good. Bob, how. How many think bald and beautiful has on Spotify?

[Monet X Change]

It's 23.5.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. How many think they have on.

[Monet X Change]

On.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On Apple? Don't look.

[Monet X Change]

We have what, 9.6. They have probably 15K. Okay. Okay. We're not bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're there at 11 youY'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, here's my dream for us. I want us to just pass vav.

[Monet X Change]

You're really good at starting within money. Then they're going to. They're Don't. They're going to activate theirs and we're going to get cream. They're not even asking for reviews. We're begging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Vava, you're good at selling initiatives. What's the initiative we can do to pass them? Come on. Use your. Use your noodle. You're really good at this, y'. All.

[Monet X Change]

Monae and I will do the shirtless podcast. You said you want to do a shirtless podcast? We're going to do the shirt. And by the way, waste up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

All the way back. If we can get to. Okay. If we can get Our Spotify to 35,000 Bibbidi bops and we can get our.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our Apple.

[Monet X Change]

Apple just past tricks. And Katia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

35,000. We're at 16. That's 10,000.

[Monet X Change]

I said what I said, by the way, that's more than 10,000. That's 20,000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right?

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

New York Public Schools. Okay, we gotta go. We gotta go.

[Monet X Change]

All right. Bye. Bye. Support for this podcast and the following message comes from America's Navy. The Navy offers new graduates hands on training and experience in careers like computer science, aviation and medicine. Plus education and sign on bonuses. Parents help your grads start their career today. @navy.com you say you'll never join the Navy, never climb Mount Fuji on a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Port visit or break this down.

[Monet X Change]

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