The One About Sitcoms

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – The One About Sitcoms

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Episode Date: November 24, 2025
Episode Theme: A hilarious, freewheeling discussion of nostalgia, sitcoms, and gay subcultures, with Bob and Monét weaving in personal stories, witty banter, and sharp insights about pop culture, relationships, and identity.

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Episode Overview

This episode is equal parts nostalgia dive and playful back-and-forth as Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change (joined by Jacob and friends) argue, reminisce, and cackle about iconic sitcoms from the ’90s, height inflation among gays, gym etiquette, and their own “subcategories” within queer culture. While the episode is billed as "about sitcoms," it is a classic Sibling Rivalry detour: real, raucous, and more about vibes than structure.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Sibling Rivalry: The Cup Fiasco & Podcast Anniversaries

• The Great Cup Debate: Bob and Monét open with a running joke about leaving cups at each other’s homes, clean vs. unclean, and who’s responsible for the dishes. (“You didn’t launder them. Yes, I did.” – James, [03:55])
• Podcast Origins & Longevity:
  • Reflecting on nearly 8 years of Sibling Rivalry, they imagine a 24-hour anniversary podcast and reminisce about favorite guests.
    • “I mean, we would do that in real life, but we could play video... have a video game segment.” – Bob, [07:33]
  • Discussion about notable episodes and the nature of their on-air fights—whether guests make them more or less themselves.

2. Tall Tales: Height, “Lying” Online, & Gay Male Experiences

• Height Inflation in the Gay Community: Extended riff on how many gays exaggerate height on dating apps—spiraling into classic Sibling Rivalry banter.
  • “Everyone swears they’re XL 8 inches, I’m like: just not.” – Monét, [10:13]
  • “What’s the point [of lying about height]?” – Bob, [11:08]
• Dick Growth, ‘Hung’ Terminology, and Showers vs. Growers:
  • They discuss whether “hung” refers to flaccid or erect size and whether big soft penises always get bigger. Bob proposes a scientific study: “I am happy to do the field research.” ([15:31])
  • “Comment below if your penis gets harder, not bigger.” – Monét, [14:47]
• Gay Male Subcategories and Twinks:
  • Long riff on “twinks” and whether black men identify as such—leading to playful disagreement, guests’ commentary, and reference to personal histories (“Nick is a twunk.” – Bob, [25:09]).
  • Questioning what facial hair does to twink identity and nostalgia for their own youthful appearances.

3. Sitcom Nostalgia & the Death of Theme Songs

• Transition to Sitcoms:
  • Sitcom discussion kicks in mid-way, with a focus on ’90s classics and their cultural impact.
  • “What do you think is the greatest ’90s sitcom?” – Monét, [33:38]
  • “Family Matters. Easily. ...the cultural impact of Family Matters…” – Bob, [33:43]
  • Living Single is also celebrated, but Bob notes it was “geared toward a more adult audience.” ([33:48])
• Theme Song Confusion:
  • Bob and Monét (with Jacob) try to distinguish the theme songs for Family Matters and Full House, noting their similar sounds and emotional impact.
    • “But also, the Family Matters has more soul.” – Bob, [35:20]
• The Loss of TV Theme Culture:
  • Mourning the end of catchy intros for Gen Z: “I feel bad for Gen Z, ’cause y’all don’t get theme songs.” – Bob, [36:06]
  • Monét reminisces about Roly Poly Olie and children’s show themes.

4. Gym Etiquette, Being Physically Moved, and Safety for Queer People

• Gym Bullying Incident: Godoy joins by phone to share a recent gym altercation where a man tried to physically move her off a machine because of her small stature. The group discusses how shorter or more petite people get physically moved more frequently.
  • “Physically moving you is crazy.” – Monét, [45:00]
  • “If you’re below five-six, people physically move you.” – Jacob, [45:46]
• Queer Safety and Being Confronted: Bob and Monét share stories of when (and why) people do or don’t confront them on the street, tying back to size, presence, and perceived threat.
  • “If someone’s looking for, like, a faggot to bash, they will look around, they’ll be like: not that one.” – Bob, [46:39]

5. Relationships, Domestic Vibes & Bedtime Rituals

• Living Together, Alone:
  • Discuss different styles of cohabitation—loving togetherness at a distance, separate bedrooms, and comfort in shared yet independent routines.
  • “My ideal thing for me and Andy is for us to be in the home in separate parts, me doing my thing, you over there doing your thing. But we’re in the house together.” – Monét, [54:36]
• Bedtime Negotiation:
  • Arguments over TV vs. silence at bedtime, watching fight videos, and the joy of occasional unsolicited compliments.
  • “If I want to watch fight videos before I go to bed, I don’t want you being like, why is this nigga watching fight videos.” – Bob, [58:07]
  • “Just randomly tell me I’m really good at something and then go about your business.” – Bob, [55:47]

6. Tangents, Imaginary Studies, and Absurdist Fun

• The pair repeatedly embark on wild digressions:
  • The mechanics of truck-driving careers [53:31]
  • Watching wrestling and childhood belief in its reality (“At one point, did you think it was real?” – Monét, [32:15])
  • The destructive power of semi-trucks on highways (“The back of that deer exploded.” – Bob, [52:10])
  • Operating sleep patterns and memories of looking different as a youth.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

03:45 – “The queen of the contradiction.”
— James, lovingly shading Bob’s shifting standards.

13:01 – “How… what’s hung? Hung is about the size. So if you’re the girth, just the size, it’s not–”
— Bob, trying to define “hung” and sparking a hilarious, pseudo-scientific debate.

14:47 – “Comment below if your penis… if your penis gets harder, not bigger.”
— Monét, breaking the fourth wall and inviting fan participation in the research.

33:43 – “What do you think is the greatest ’90s sitcom that we had?” “Family Matters. Easily…”
— Monét & Bob, launching the sitcom nostalgia segment.

36:12 – “I feel bad for Gen Z. ’Cause y’all don’t get theme songs.”
— Bob, mourning lost TV rituals.

45:00 – “Physically moving you is crazy.”
— Monét, reacting to the gym bullying story.

54:36 – “My ideal thing for me and Andy is for us to be in the home in separate parts, me doing my thing, you over there doing your thing. But we’re in the house together.”
— Monét, describing their dream cohabitation.

58:07 – “If I want to watch fight videos before I go to bed, I don’t want you being like, why is this nigga watching fight videos.”
— Bob, admitting a slightly embarrassing night-time habit.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:45 – Cup debate & contradictions
• 06:36 – Sibling Rivalry podcast anniversary ideas
• 10:03—13:36 – Height & “hung” debates
• 25:09—27:00 – Twink identity, subcategories, and black queer experiences
• 33:38—36:06 – Best ‘90s sitcom discussion and theme song confusion
• 41:22—45:06 – Gym bullying story & small person struggles
• 46:30—49:15 – Safety and confrontation as queer people of different sizes
• 54:36—56:08 – Relationship living styles and need for compliments
• 58:07—59:38 – Bedtime conflicts: Watching fight videos vs. sleeping

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Episode Tone & Energy

The episode is playful, sharp, and unpredictably honest, with Bob and Monét’s signature chemistry. Nothing is sacred and everything is up for scrutiny, from bodies to sitcoms to life in the gym. The banter is quick but affectionate, making for an episode that feels like a long, hilarious conversation with friends you adore but will never out-argue.

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In Summary

"The One About Sitcoms" is a prime example of what makes Sibling Rivalry unique: structured chaos, real talk, outlandish digressions, and enough quotable lines to keep fans laughing. While sitcoms are the nominal subject, the magic is in the personalities, the spats, and the universal queer experiences that Bob and Monét spotlight with wit and warmth.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Jacob]

And I'm.

[James]

My name's James, and this is is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, we find out what Hung really means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We finally get a good night's sleep.

[James]

And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't say that. They'll sue us. And we found out what made Monet say this at one point.

[James]

Did you think it was real? You probably thought it Was real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would like to start off by saying thank you so much to our patrons who make these episodes possible. Yeah, we would not be able to film this podcast on this beautiful set with all these amazing people if it.

[James]

Were not for you all. And if you want to join, go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To Patreon Tap in silly RV podcast and you can support for us.

[James]

There we go. You got there. No, really, really, really, really big shout out to our Patreons. They our patrons. They really are lovely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What were you trying to get in your cup? There's like a cup fiasco.

[James]

Oh, yeah. I put my cup here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You left your.

[James]

No, I, I, I said I'm, I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said, can I leave my cup here? And we said yes.

[James]

Yeah, to be. Because it's part of the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't say, will you guys wash my cup? And care for you Say, can we leave it here? And we, we. Your cup is here. It's safe. Okay, great. But you, but you made it sound like we did something shady. There's a sink upstairs. How do you think we wash our. I walk up and wash my cups. Okay, but you did a thing. You were like, oh, so now that is saying something.

[James]

Because before, when you did it. Well, what did I do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did I say when I did it? It wasn't a thing. Oh, but now, but now it is. When you do it, it is a thing.

[James]

Okay, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For sure. So what are you, what is your.

[James]

The queen of the contradiction?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is your silence saying?

[James]

The queen of the contradiction?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like if I leave my jacket, if I leave my pants at your house? Well, Bob.

[James]

Yes. You have left clothes in my home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't launder them. I did.

[James]

Yes. You didn't launder them. Yes, I did. You have left cups. When you left your Stanley cup at my home for a week, you didn't wash it. Yes, we did. You received a clean Stanley Cup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It still smelled like water. When I got it back, it smelled like water.

[James]

You received a clean Stanley Cup. And not, by the way, I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just wash a cup. I washed your fucking straw.

[James]

Because I know you don't wash your straws.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do wash my straws.

[James]

You have the little things you put in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, it comes with it anyways. What do you think I'm some fucking garbage bale kid who doesn't wash their belongings?

[James]

So when you leave your belongings at my home. Four years, by the way, because you always leave a little piece of yourself behind, which might be some type of thing that you do, you're going through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm losing my mind. No, if anyone's losing my mind, it's me.

[James]

No, no, the thing about people who leave stuff at people's homes, like, they like, they just like to leave a piece. Not like to, but they just. They spontaneously leave a piece of themselves behind to always be remembered.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you don't.

[James]

I'm not doing that subconsciously. It's happening. It might be happening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm forgetting I did not leave my Stanley cup because I. Which, by the way, I'm so over that fucking Stanley cup, girl.

[James]

We were trying to tell you, y', all, when the Stanley cup is gifts, this nigga would take that big pink Stanley cup everywhere, and I'm like, yes, it's my Stanley Cup. I drink my Stanley Cup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it was a gift that I was trying to drink more water. But then you know what it is? The cup is not waterproof. So what I really. It is the worst airport cup you can have because you know when you have two suitcases and you have your cup in your hand, the cup's gonna go sideways.

[James]

Yeah. When you have your hand on the. On the handle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. But then I found this other cup. I can't remember the name of it, but it actually is waterproof. And I prefer that one more. But it's just. It's a lot. But it still is a lot to carry around.

[James]

Yeah. And then you had. You had a fucking lanyard on it. You were doing too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have a lanyard on my.

[James]

You were someone's seventh grade math.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. I didn't have a lanyard hanger. I did not have a standing up hanger.

[James]

Did it have like a. A satchel like, like thing that you. You put it like a side saddle thing? You had that on there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I did not.

[James]

You didn't?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[James]

One of y' all hose is that fucking saddle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like carrying my Stanley purse like a. Like a, like cup, like a purse.

[James]

I thought, well, you. You love purses put in the purse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do love purse, Purse, purse first. But I don't turn everything to a purse.

[James]

Purse first productions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't carry. I don't. I don't turn everything in my life into a purse and carry it on my person. But anyway. But your cup is here. Do you want me to start washing your cup for you? I'm happy to do so.

[James]

Oh, that would be very nice. Thank you so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Want you to do this.

[James]

You are such a fucking. Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a what?

[James]

I can't. You can and you will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. And you have for eight years.

[James]

And you're gonna do it later. For eight years?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The podcast.

[James]

Oh, yeah, no, it's nine years. We decided. Right? No, 20, 18.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's based on a man, Jacob. As long as me and Jacob been together, it's how long we do the podcast.

[Jacob]

We've been together. It's going to be eight years in like December, I think. Or maybe wait, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're. We're coming up on eight years. Oh, my God.

[James]

We could have a third grader.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are we gonna do for our 10 year anniversary?

[James]

We gotta do something big. Something big.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's big though, is it a 24 hour podcast?

[James]

Ooh, a 24 hour podcast. That would be fun. I'm into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob is.

[James]

We can have shifts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob's sold out into it.

[James]

Like sit here for 24 hours. I think we have to sit here and live in this space for 24 hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. We can also podcast from different areas too. We can do different things. It doesn't have to be one long podcast. We can bring in guests. We can play games.

[James]

Just the two of us talking for 24 hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, we would do that in real life, but we could play video. We have a video game segment.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can bring in some of our greatest guests.

[James]

Who are, who are greatest guests?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca, Naomi.

[James]

Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi Kim. Mateo. No. Nick?

[James]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who else? We don't really have that many guests.

[James]

We don't have that many. Lizzo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lizzo.

[James]

Lizzo can come over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my favorite episodes is honestly us yelling while gravity sits on camera.

[James]

Because you wanted to fight when gravity was there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to fight. I was being myself. You switch it up when company comes over.

[James]

Yeah, Bob. Yes, you're right. When we have guests on our podcast, I try to not be comfortable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You put on a show and fight.

[James]

And make them feel uncomfortable. That video, Gravity just there. We are just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so funny. It's hilarious.

[James]

So, yes, I do try to do a little different when we have guests to feel more accommodating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Should we book more guests that would sit there while we yell each other? We should put Mikey on the show. Oh, God, I put Mikey right in the middle.

[Jacob]

We have Bruno coming next week.

[James]

Bruno Alcantara.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, word. His last name was Alcantara.

[James]

Alcantra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought he was really, really tall.

[James]

Like what's really, like a six, five?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm taller than Bruno.

[James]

I realize you never met him on the show, I mean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I see him at the bars all the time. Like we walk past each other. But then he was on the crew that just did.

[James]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The drag stars.

[James]

Jesse was there too.

[Jacob]

Clarify, he's 6 3.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bruno is not 6 3.

[Jacob]

On brand models and talent agency it says 6 3, 8. And an IMDb it says 6 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love Bruno. Bruno is not 6 3.

[James]

Are y' all the same height?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Google a picture of me and Bruno next to each other. I am taller than Bruno.

[James]

Out of heels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Out of heels. I'm. I've never met Bruno in Dragon. I've never met Bruno and drag. I don't have my phone, but there's us side by side and I am definitely like an inch, at least an inch taller than Bruno. And we're gonna find out in a week.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't understand like not just saying how tall you are.

[James]

Well, I think cause for model casting and stuff like that, you want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Edge a little bit.

[James]

Yeah. But I think because some people are like, once I'm there, I'm there. Like if you hire a model, whatever, and they show up, you're gonna fire them when they show up. He still looks like how he looks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you doing? The pants are short now, now my short. Cuz you lied about your height.

[James]

They still fit them anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Typically my pants look long. Cuz you lied about your height.

[James]

This will fit them typically and do a little, little, little, little stitch. Little him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's deceptive. It's like the dick things. I've never actually measured someone's dick on from meeting them online. That would be crazy. But I want to be that person.

[James]

Oh, for sure I want to. Cuz more often times than not, people are not the size that they say they are. Yeah, everyone swears they're XL 8 inches. I'm like, just not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really want to be the one to pull out to, to, to, to bust out a measuring tape and be like, there's this train online where this guy goes around and he's ask or this woman or someone. They ask guys, how tall are you? And they say their age. They're high. Then she goes, can you verify that? And then she pull. And they all start, they all start changing it up.

[James]

Annie lied on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, well, well, well, well.

[James]

Annie on, on hinge. He said he was six two and he's not six two. Andy is maybe six six one. Maybe six one. He said he's six two and we always go, he's like, I'm six.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, you're Not I'm taller than.

[James]

Andy and you're six two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am even six two. Not an inch shorter. Not an inch shorter. Not even a centimeter shorter.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or taller. I am exactly six two.

[Godoy]

Yeah.

[James]

Andy's six one. But he swears he's six two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the point?

[James]

I don't know. I think he's more six six. I think he's more six and a half.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How tall do you think Taylor is?

[James]

Taylor is. I know Taylor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Six three or six two and a half six. He's taller than me. Yeah. Like I know. I know when someone is taller than me. I pretty much have everyone who's like taller than me documented in my brain.

[Jacob]

How tall do you think plastic tr is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Plastique is probably 510 or 5 9.

[James]

I would say 5 10. No 5 9.

[Jacob]

Google says 6 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No way. Plastic tiara is not 62 is under.

[Jacob]

Oh, 5 9.

[James]

Jacob. What you're 62 from.

[Jacob]

No, I'm so she. She did a tick tock where she said I'm six three in heels. And then I think also not somebody was. Okay, well I don't know.

[James]

I mean well, depending on the heel. I've seen plastic where those crazy platform and the heel. So she. She could have been six ring heels sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that she's wearing.

[James]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that?

[James]

Those pleasers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Five nine.

[James]

That's six inches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Six A six inch hill.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Okay. I mean taller than me.

[James]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cam is taller than me. It's might be the same height.

[James]

I think all they're the same height.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Asset Betty's taller than me. Thor's taller than me.

[James]

Ass is taller than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[James]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[James]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or at least semi high authority's taller than me. Like a little bit like a SC. Taller than me.

[James]

Well that's. That's all them dreadlocks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[James]

Uhhuh. Of the way that she's oppressed our people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But. But people do lie about their. I just don't get it. I do not understand it because is so easy to verify. Your penis is easy to verify.

[James]

But also guys are like. Also the term hung is probably subjective. Right. Cuz hung can be. You can hung. You can be hung a little bit or you can hung a lot. So hung is. Is by the word not about the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Curvature of your penis.

[James]

I think. No, they're saying hung is like how hung you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[James]

No, so I think that's. But I think that's how guys are weaseling onto that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How. What's hung? Hung is about the size. So if you're the girth, just. Just the size, it's not. So your dick can be pointing straight up and you can be hung, but.

[James]

When it's soft, it's hung. Is hanging. That's what hung is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think.

[James]

Am I crazy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hung is about the erect size of your penis. Not. It has nothing to do with the plastic size. I think. Yes. And I think that if your flaccid penis is small, but your erect penis is standing straight up and big, you're hungry, I think.

[James]

Yes. But also if you're. If you're. A flaccid dick is. Liz. If you're a shower and you're hung, you're also hung.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But does it grow to a large size?

[James]

If you're flaccid hung, you're gonna erect.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hung.

[James]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Everyone who looks meaty flaccid is not. Does not necessarily grow into a giant penis.

[James]

I disagree.

[ZBiotics Advertiser]

Not a giant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no.

[James]

Not giant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know for a fact that's not true.

[James]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean you disagree? I can tell you for a fact. I know guys who have big, meaty, flaccid penises hung. Yes.

[James]

And then it gets soft and gets smaller.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but it doesn't become big. Like, for example, if your penis is like 5 inches soft, that's a lot of flaccid penis. And then it just firms up. It doesn't get longer, it just gets firm. No, 5 inches is a lot of flaccid penis.

[James]

I don't think I've ever seen a flaccid five inches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you? Yes. And then it just firms up. It doesn't get. It does not get bigger. It just maybe a little thicker, but it just kind of just stiffens.

[James]

I think if. If I see a hung flaccid dick, it gets to be hung for the most time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. But I know for a fact there are penises that just get harder. They don't get bigger.

[James]

So this, this, this is a. This is an anomaly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I will say that some people.

[James]

Comment below if your penis is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If. If your penis gets harder, not bigger. But. But I also have seen guys who. The larger the penis, the less they grow.

[James]

Cause it doesn't get fully hard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. Just. Cause there's just. There's less growth. Like smaller penises grow more than smaller flaccid penises grow more than large flaccid penises.

[James]

In my experience, smaller flaccid penises grow more. Like in grow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just saying girth like length or either just grow Mass.

[James]

Uh huh. More than what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Larger flaccid penises.

[James]

I don't know if that's. I don't know if that. Bullish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we should do a study and I think that what I'm saying would prove to be true.

[James]

I don't know. I don't know if that's true. But how do, how do we conduct the study? Should we have the sibling rivalry research.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Institute because of dicks? Well, I'm happy to do the research. Let me just start by saying that I am happy to do the field research, but I feel like it's because I. Here's. I'm talking about exponential growth. We should put hashtag growthry, no growery. Sibling growing. Now let us know. Are you hashtag showery, Hashtag Rory? Because hear me out now. These penises. When a penis. Let's say the penis is gonna become seven and a half inches.

[James]

Uh huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a pretty substantial penis here.

[James]

That is a very. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now let's say flaccid. It is 4 inches.

[James]

Uh huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's pretty substantial flaccidity too. We have now gone. We have gone up three and a half inches. Three and a half. Now let's say. Let's say you're gonna make it to seven and a half. But now you started at two and a half. This is substantial growth.

[James]

I guess I don't see that often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're growing exponentially more.

[James]

I don't see that. I don't think I've ever seen that. You know, remember when Orlando Bloom's him and Katy Perry, when they were together and there was that boat, that picture of him on the boat and his dick was out, barely. Yeah, so I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Katie, I never saw her from Orlando Bloom. Can I say I don't see. When everyone was going on about Orlando Bloom, I was like, that just. That went right over my head.

[James]

But back in the day when that was popular, I think we would have discussed that on sibling current events or anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, we probably do. This does look for me now. Right?

[James]

But then, and then I remember the world going off, being like it was the straight world. We're like, that's a huge dick. And the gays were like child.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think this is.

[James]

The straighties were like, oh my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All the gays were like, girl, I don't think they gays.

[James]

Yes they did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, you didn't even.

[James]

Sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't say that. They'll sue us. No, I'm saying I don't think that gay dicks are. I think. You know what it is. Gay guys just see a lot of dicks.

[James]

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[James]

I don't think gay dicks are good. I don't think gay dicks are big. I think gays are like, girl, we've seen it. Wait, you know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think there is a study that says that gay guys are taller.

[James]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I think I saw a study that said that gay men are taller than straight men. We have a. We have.

[Godoy]

We.

[James]

We have a. A pandemic of an influx of mass. Mass amounts of twinks everywhere. They're not bigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We just. I've discussed this. I don't think twink. It correlates to your height. Twinkle Relates to your age and your. And the. In the. In the. The size of your. I understand.

[James]

Would you say Christopher Versace's boyfriend is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't even know who that first person is, so I certainly know his boyfriend.

[James]

You know, Krista Versace. She won Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think he said Christopher. I was like, I don't know Christopher Saatchi, and I sure as hell don't know his fucking boyfriend. Is Christopher Versace's boyfriend a twink? Yes, right.

[James]

That's what I said. Who isn't arguing with me?

[Godoy]

This is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is the debate?

[James]

No, that's not her boyfriend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, well, that guy in that picture with the crystal was a twink. Damn. We can't see a picture. Probably still is.

[James]

No, I guess we can't see him. She is so pretty. I can't. Anyway, well, no, it's not him. It's not him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever.

[James]

No, that's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's.

[James]

That's her. That's her bestie. That's. That. That's her. Bob Dee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, her best friend is also a twink. Yeah. Yeah.

[James]

And I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[James]

Do you think facial hair can take away from somebody being a twink?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Doesn't always, but it certainly can. Right. So I think what we'll take away is, you know, the. The way to keep facial hair and be a twinkle is if your facial hair. And this is again, I saw you in Pep's conversation, by the way. I just want to point out, I am not. I'm telling you, I know for a fact there are black guys who identify as twinks. And you and Pepper being like, that's never happened. Like that. It does happen. There are black guys who identify as twink. You can be like, no one's ever done that. That's not true.

[James]

Okay, we didn't say never. We're just saying. We just say never.

[Godoy]

You did.

[James]

We're just saying it often times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you did say it.

[James]

Black people don't often. Like, I rarely meet black people that are like, yeah, I have a twink or a bear or whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I think what will stop you from being Twinkies if you. If the facial hair has to be blonde. Unnaturally blonde.

[James]

If you're a twink and your facial hair is blonde, then you'd be Twinkie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it has to be unnaturally blonde.

[James]

So if you're a little twink with, like, a little goatee, that means that you don't look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you have all. You go ahead.

[James]

If you have all the things of a twink, the age, the size you have everything, but then you just have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have how much facial hair.

[James]

Are we talking a mustache and a goatee situation?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What color is it?

[James]

You're. You're white. With. With black hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's black.

[James]

Yeah, like one B.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe you could be. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm not the operator of all twins, but maybe. But if it were unnaturally blonde, like dyed blonde, then yeah.

[James]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

The quote about black twinks from the podcast was, that's not for us.

[James]

Okay. That's what I'm saying. I don't see that for her. I don't see when that happens. Like, I can count. I can't even know who in my life right now. A black person that identifies as in like a subcategory. What is Nick a twink? No, what is Nick? What is Nick?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nick is a twunk.

[James]

Nick is a twas. A twas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what Nick is.

[James]

Nick was a twas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was cartoon characters to what Nick is.

[James]

Taylor, when were. When. When did you cross over from. From being a twink? When you got facial hair? Because you, like, you were the twinkie when you were young. I could tell you were tall twin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Taylor's always had Fisher. Taylor's got fish hair for a long time.

[James]

College. Okay, so then what were you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Taylor's. Taylor's saying he was not Twinkie.

[James]

So what were you then?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he's just saying he was skinny.

[James]

But what was your subcategory if you had to do an otter? Okay, that is a twig mama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, this is. Look at this old television. It's getting twinkie over here. We're still in twing town.

[James]

We're still.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are still in twing town. We have not. He's such a little cutie. We have not left Twinktown in a long time.

[James]

Taylor. That is a Twinkril.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Looking at it, by the way. And Jay, just go through all of Taylor's profile pictures. Just blast them random. There he is. There he is.

[James]

Okay, that's when she came out of Twinkdom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was one. That was.

[James]

That was January 29th. January 6th, January 29th, 2014.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gotta say, sometimes, like, people who look so different from their. Like, I gotta be honest, I have looked more or less like this, give or take £50 my. Since like seventh grade. If. If I was not even famous and you saw me and you've not seen me since seventh grade, you'd be like, oh, my God, that's Caldwell like you. I just look the same people. Taylor looks like a different person. In some of those pictures?

[James]

I don't think so. Like, the. The ones without the facial hair?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, But.

[James]

But I think. Did you. When. When did you start growing facial hair? I started my facial hair in ninth grade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In seventh grade.

[James]

Yeah. So it's pork chops.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Iburn. In seventh grade. The Rock made them popular.

[James]

So. Yeah. So I think. I think the reason why. If you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no way any y' all watch this, but, like, when I had my fucking pork chops, I can't do that. I was.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know how iconic I was, baby. When I tell you I was the talk of the town with pork chop sideburns.

[James]

What makes them pork chop? Because they go like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They go straight from here and they go all the way to the corner of your mouth. Near. Sharp chops, they're called. No, lamb chops are these things, aren't they? Chop the chops. Mutton chops. Pork chops. Sideburns are like the thing that go all the way to here, right? Yeah. Pork chop sideburns. That's what I had. Go to a black guy, though. That's what I had. So maybe. Yeah, no, maybe not.

[Godoy]

Here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. They go. Yeah, they were down like that. I have. I have pork chop sideburns. The Rock. The Rock made them really popular work.

[James]

Yeah. So I think it's because you probably have a facial. I think the reason why Taylor looks so different, because he just does not have any facial hair now. He has a full.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you've seen people who just look so.

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[James]

Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they just like, don't even. Like, just different people.

[James]

Yeah, ordinary people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you feel like you look more or less the same?

[James]

I think I look more or less the same, yeah. I think the only thing that's really different is my hair, but I lost that when I was 22.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And your weight, you've also fluctuated. You used to be. Don't, Monet, don't put up a. Do what? You need to put a picture up.

[James]

I'll comment on my body. Thank you so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not commenting. I'm just saying that you lost weight. I got it. Oh, my God. I'm not reading. I'm sorry if that offended. I'm not trying to be.

[Godoy]

You're like, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were.

[James]

You. I mean, Monet, you were a fat bitch back there. Look at you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should not say that, you big.

[James]

Bloated white back ho.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I am saying that there have been Points in my life, like here, where I was very skinny. I'm just trusting Jay to be kind here. And there was moments like here where I was a little thick. When I think of Opecci and then you have, like now open.

[James]

I think of that one that she always posted you. And you like doing this and all your dreads are going like that. Like a picture of you in college or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're like, oh, my God. Jesus. I don't always post that picture.

[James]

I didn't say always. That's what I think about because, Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was 19 in that picture. 19 years old. How do I look?

[James]

Like when I was 19 and I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Still had my little. I had a picture, but I also wasn't really allowed to have much facial hair in college because I worked in the food service industry. And you can't have a beard at Chick Fil A and you can't have a beer Tuesday. And that's where I worked at.

[James]

When I see people with those, I know they probably serve some type of function for cleanliness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever.

[Godoy]

Face.

[James]

The face nets. The face nets are so dumb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're cunty.

[James]

They're so stupid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're cunty. I don't know.

[James]

They have them on the thing, but they have neck beard. So, like, you're not even covering all the facial hair. You're allegedly covering.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Do you remember when people used to wear their mask below their nose?

[James]

Yes, I used to do that. Cause at first they were annoying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then why are you wearing the mask?

[James]

Because I was like, at least I'm covering 50% of the. Because I mouth breathe sometimes. So I'm covering my bases there. That's not.

[Jacob]

That's not how that works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I believe that if you have it under your nose, you're just breathing through your nose at this point, you're. No one splits the difference.

[James]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one goes, now I'm going to switch over to mouth breathing. Now I'm going to go back to nostril.

[James]

I do sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true.

[James]

And he's a. Andy's a big mouth breather at night. Last night I had to give him the only elbow. I gave him the people's elbow last night. This motherfucker would not stop snoring. I literally was like, you remember that move?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So do you remember how he was always.

[James]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so the rock. What he would do is he would hit you with a rock bottom and then he would put you in the middle of the ring and then he would use his feet to collect your arms by you. He Would go on either side and use his feet to, like, scoop your arms so you were, like, laying like this. And then he would. The Rock is one of the greatest showmen in the history of wrestling. I'm telling you right now. There are only a few who do showmanship like the motherfucking Rock. And then the Rock would take the people's elbow pad off. He'd take the elbow pad off the people's elbow, and he would take the elbow pad and then he would throw it into the audience. And then he would start to do his hands like this.

[James]

Conducting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, he's like. He's showing that he's about to run from side to side. So then he runs, and then he throws his entire body against the top rope. And then he jumps over your body. And then he runs, turns, throws his back against the top rope again. Sometimes he would do it an extra third time, just for kicks. Jump over your body again, hit his back, and then he would come. Then he would swing his leg around real slow so he's on one foot. He would go real slow, and then he would slap his elbow, and then he would hit you in the chest. And then usually your feet would explode into the air. Oh. I mean, y'. All. The theatrics of wrestling. Like, I can't even.

[James]

Wrestling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wrestling.

[James]

Wrestling is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it is, I gotta say. Like, I'm trying to wonder if I liked wrestling as much as I currently like Drag Race, and I think I liked it more.

[James]

You like wrestling more?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

4.

[James]

You're also younger, though. Like, at one point, did you think it was real? You probably thought it was real when.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was pretty young, yeah. And. But then I kind of got to the point where I kept being like. Like, guys, we know it's fake. Like, stop telling us.

[James]

Would they say it was fake?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. People would be like, well, it's fake. And I'd be like, we know. Like, guys, stop. Like, that's not why I'm watching it. Like, yeah. I'd be like. And did you know that you're the. One Tree Hill's not real.

[James]

I might have One Tree Hill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did anyone tell you Dawson Creek's not real?

[James]

Can we talk about. Can we wake up and have a conversation about the ridiculosity that was the show Gilmore Girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have never seen a single episode.

[James]

It is the dumbest fucking show. These people in a diner, they will argue about pancakes for four episodes. It was such a stupid show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is it about a diner? What doesn't sound too bad?

[James]

Gilmore Girls. Gilmore Girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What about a diner? I don't. Well, what's wrong with the show about a diner?

[James]

Because there would be any. There would never be any real drama. At least when you have Waitress, the Broadway show, there was, like, a pregnancy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was a thing. They were like all the Earl and all these things.

[James]

Gilmore Girls. Nothing ever happened to Gilmore Girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What about Seinfeld? Seinfeld was a good show.

[James]

I didn't watch Seinfeld, but Seinfeld was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, famously a show about nothing. I never. I didn't know that.

[James]

I never. I've never seen Seinfeld. I've never seen Everybody Loves Raymond. I've never seen Friends. I've never seen a lot of those shows. I mean, you remember Carolina in the City?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never seen it.

[James]

I didn't see if I knew it existed. What do you think? What do you think is the greatest 90s sitcom that we had?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Family Matters. Easily. I don't even have to think about it.

[James]

Living Single, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As a young person, Family Matters is more geared toward me. Living Single was geared toward a more adult audience. So I watched it, but not the way that my mom was like. It's that. That I feel like Living Single was much more for adults and Family Matters was for the whole family.

[James]

Hence the name Family Matters.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And just Steve Urkel being. Also the cultural impact of Family Matters versus Did I do that?

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also the theme song.

[James]

See, we talked about this before. I always mix that up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mix it up with what? Full House.

[James]

Full House. This is very similar. Okay, wait, Jacob, hold on. Wait. Can you fling the screen and can you play the beginning of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can just tell. You don't even need to do. I can just tell you which one's which one.

[James]

I want to see if I can tell because I don't know. Wait, don't show us. We don't want to see the family. The Family Matters theme song and the Full House theme song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I won't know instantly.

[James]

I won't look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are. They're probably written and performed by the same person.

[James]

Yeah, we found it out. Okay, now stop. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Okay, and then for the second one. Well, now, because it's a Taylor Reactor. I know which one it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know which one that was like.

[James]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But at first I did not know. That's so funny. Well, but also, the feminist has more soul. It's like.

[James]

It's a recognition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whereas the.

[James]

Listen has no soul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds like people.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever happened to predictability? The milkman But I mean, when, obviously when the Family Matter song starts that fucking crazy ass piano lick gig.

[Godoy]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Know, is there reacting? Just singing. Singing on TGI Friday?

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love it. Gratitude. Some people say I feel bad for Gen Z. Cause y' all don't get theme songs.

[James]

I know the theme songs are gone. And even. And I think some. No, some shows have theme songs, but we have the ability now to skip intro.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Gen Z's last theme song was Cocomelon.

[James]

I don't even know that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember?

[James]

Do you remember? Did you ever watch Roly Polioli?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm a little. No, I think this one.

[James]

Is that so. Long farewell to you, my friend Goodbye for now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that how I thing on my show? Were they doing all that on Roller Coyoli? So long, baby. Was Roller Bullet doing all that? You remember in Lion King to the zebra with soul.

[James]

The zebra was sold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the antelope. There's like an antelope. You see Lion King too?

[James]

No, let's take a break. We're talking about the zebra soul.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back. And if you hate an ad break, you do not have to ever experience an ad break on slip rivalry again by going to the sibling rivalry Patreon.

[James]

Go to Patreon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have a sibling rivalry podcast. And I don't know what. I'm so gassy.

[James]

Girl, you're gassy. You be short circuited. Something's going on with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I'm burping. And I'm not talking through my burp like Rick Sanchez. I'm not short circuit.

[James]

Oh, you are because I am getting it over here. I know exactly what you. This morning, you had. You had Popeyes. I can smell it. You have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You saw the bag. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. No, I did not. You saw the bag.

[James]

That smells like a Popeye chicken sandwich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a lying sack of shit. You saw the bag.

[James]

I did not see the bag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have this refined of a fucking olfactory system.

[James]

I do. You had the spicy sauce on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're. Shut the fuck up.

[James]

And you had seven fries. Yeah, you did. I know you did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I had the. Can I give y' all a little secret? I want to give y' all a little secret. I've been eating so unhealthy, and it's been so great. Cause I can't go to the gym. If I can go to the gym, I'm. I'm off now. If I can't go to the gym, I'm off the rails. I don't give a no more. So you get the Popeyes crispy sandwich. Buy one, get one for free on Uber Eats, at least in LA right now. And then you get the signature hot wing sauce that covers the wings. Put that on your bread.

[James]

Brioche bread on your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On your chicken. Oh, Top and bottom. And then you Dip. And then I get bacon, and I get cheese, and I eat that.

[James]

And you should put some. Some Monet Exchange protein ranch on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've actually been using the protein ranch. I use it almost every time. Yep, every single time.

[James]

Oh, I love that you use that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I share with people.

[James]

I love that it is that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I told you, Chris Wayne was like, is this the protein ranch?

[James]

Did he like it last night?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Chris Range.

[James]

Chris Ranch. It's a Chris Ranch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chris Ranch has great posture. He's like, yeah.

[James]

He goes to the gym, like, eight times a week. Miss. She's a pole girl. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He saw Godoy get, like, bullied at the gym the other day.

[James]

What happened? Tell us the story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, apparently, Godoy got bullied at the gym.

[James]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think people bully Godoy because she's so tiny.

[James]

Because she's tiny.

[Jacob]

Can we call her and get the full story?

[James]

Do we. Do we need to roll up to the gym?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe. And I can try to remember, if possible. Godoy was at the gym getting bullied. Godoy's doing the thigh machine. No, the kickbacks. Huh?

[James]

The glute, the glue kickback.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this guy started trying to, like, physically move. Good old body. That's what Goodwill said.

[James]

There are certain people I feel very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Chris came up and was like, that was crazy. Oh, good. Do I. Talking about how you got bullied at the gym the other day. You're.

[James]

You're on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on the podcast, by the way.

[Godoy]

Oh, my God, girls. Yes, I got bullied at the gym.

[James]

Tell us the story. Because I just said we need to roll up. I don't know why, Goodoy, but I feel protective over you.

[Godoy]

Well, you know, it's happened a couple of times where, like, like, bleep this out. Like, try me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're not believing that part out.

[James]

So you were. You were on the glue kickback machine, and what happened?

[Godoy]

So I was using the cable machine, and I was using it as a kickback machine, and so I was only using half of it. But, you know, like, I have long legs, so I'm, like, kicking. I didn't want to hit anyone. And. And this guy comes up to me, like, taps my shoulder, but, like, pretty aggressive. And I was like, yes. And he goes, well, can. Like, hey, like, can I use the other half of your machine? And I was like, what? And he goes, can I use the other half of your machine? And I was genuinely confused because I'm like, well, why are you tapping my shoulder in the middle of my Set. And then he gets between me and the machine and he physically moves me, like, pushes me over. He goes, you go over here. And I go over here. And I said, no. I was like, you can wait your turn. And he goes, what? It's just so. And I went, no, stand over there. Like, wait your turn and don't touch me. So I went all carrying on his ass.

[James]

And I told the management, physically moving you is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They only try because the doy is like 51 or 5 2. All right, good. Thank you. We love you. Bye. And then. And then Chris came over, was like, oh, my God, that was crazy.

[Godoy]

Okay, bye.

[James]

All right, bye. Physically moving physically, I think is because he's a small. I've never been physically.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I tell you people just do not try with Nate. Do people try with you? Me either. And they know I'm getting people. Just when I hear about people getting, like, gay bash and stuff, I'm like, what? You guys are getting Gay people are being what? This is happening.

[James]

Wait, Jacob, have you ever been physically moved by someone because you're smaller?

[Jacob]

Yes.

[James]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Patty.

[James]

Patty gets mad. Patty has a whole lot of people touching him, girl. People physically move Patty, too. And Patty's five' three. Jacob, you're five five six. Five six. Ghadoy's five' one. So I think if you're below five' six, people physically move you.

[Jacob]

I've been physically moved by Free.

[James]

Free the Drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[James]

Oh, he's listening because I was walking.

[Jacob]

Too slow in front of him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds about right.

[Jacob]

I was also physically moved by your Aunt Hazel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hazel, yeah, it was. It was.

[James]

We were in the hotel room and.

[Jacob]

She was trying to get by me and she moved me out of the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hazel's 515 2, mind you. Taylor, do you get physically moved? Because Taylor's tall but not big.

[James]

Yeah, he's tall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rob, do you get moved? Rob says it has happened. Rob is about 5759. 5757 and a half. And probably a buck 40.

[James]

45.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A buck 45. So. So small people get moved.

[James]

I guess.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all know when I tell you people don't bother me.

[James]

Never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People be like, if I always say, if someone's looking for, like, a faggot to bash, they will look around, they'll be like, not that one. I'm going to pick an easier fight.

[James]

This n looks big and scary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[James]

I've never been physically moved. Or you see the big one so terrified. Yeah, I've never been. I've never had that happen. Even at the gym. Like, I've never. Never. Not once. Nothing like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only time I've ever had anyone even, like, call me a name on the street is once we've passed each other, like, never coming at me. Once we have passed and there is, like, 20ft of distance between us, then they'll throw out. Like, a. One time, a guy was like. I was walking home in drag, and this guy was like. As I pass and he goes, ugh, be a man. I just remember him going, be a man. And then I remember one time, me, Azra Leopold and Delilah Brooks were crossing the street at Massacre Garden. And we're all big. All of us are big.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like Delilah, Azra, Leah, me. All tall. Everyone's over five' ten. Two of them are pretty big. Solid group of queers.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then they were like. But once that. Once we had crossed the street and traffic started going again, or a lot of people, then they were like, faggots, you see? And it was after a game was letting out. Who plays at the Master Garden, the.

[James]

Knicks or the Knicks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Nets. Who is it?

[James]

The Nets are in Brooklyn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Durant.

[James]

The Nets are in Brooklyn. The Knicks are Madison Garden.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some sports team.

[James]

Yeah. In New York. I have to say, I live in New York all my life. I mean, I think maybe when I was younger. I sure have. But as an adult, I have never been called faggot or anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not because New York is liberal. It's because people just are not going to want to fight you.

[James]

Yeah. I mean, I've been called slurs here. I did Selena City's gig downtown, Aquiso, and as I was leaving, I was in full drag and I was leaving across the street, someone would call me a faggot. Across the street.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But how? Yeah, across the street.

[James]

Across the street.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, across the street. You really have to do the cost benefit analysis and ask yourself, do I actually want to fight this person if this comes to blows? Do I have what it takes to get into a physical altercation with this person?

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I've. I've had this. These scenarios in my mind where something will happen and I'll think to myself, I want to speak up, but can I take this person if they get crazy on me?

[James]

I've had that thought recently. Or I'm sure I have in my. Though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I have been thinking lately in cars, I don't try anyone in a car.

[James]

Gun. I've seen so many viral videos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Guns, they're. They are. You are in the weapon. You are driving the Weapon. And I know I'm not willing to do anything. I know I'm. I'm a. When it comes to in the car, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna break check you. I'm not gonna swerve in front of you. I would never hit you with car. I know for a fact I'm not going to do anything. So if it come. If it comes to aggression in a car, I'm going to try to either speed off or pull into the fucking police station. I don't give a fuck. I have to do anything to get away from you because I'm not going to do nothing.

[James]

I've seen a bunch of videos of people trying to run people over at gas stations. Specifically like there's altercation at a gas station. One person getting in the car and now we're trying to run the other person, the person who's trying to get run over. What's crazy to me is they're not going to a building or running away and they're like I bet you're not gonna do it. And then they just. And it just. They're dancing with this karma. That's crazy to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why would you bet someone that they're not going to do something to you when they are in possession of the weapon to do this and trying to.

[James]

Do it to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because like I bet. Is that a bet you're Willy. You're really willing to. Really willing to lose?

[James]

Yeah. Well, also.

[Godoy]

Yeah.

[James]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I guess the thought there is no. Because there's no case if they do were to hit you with their car. There's no scenario that you're not fucked up. Like getting hit by a vehicle sounds awful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Almost the worst.

[James]

The damage that will happen in the moment. But sometimes if you're fine for whatever reason, the damage later on. Bitch. You might have internal bleeding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're being hit by a multiple ton or at least 1 1/2 ton vehicle item.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Being lunged at you at at least 10 miles an hour.

[James]

While I was also. Also been seeing these viral videos of people like getting hit by like semi trucks. Like this guy, he was getting into wait and fights. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ.

[James]

Like this guy was getting into his vehicle. He had pulled over the side of the highway for whatever reason he was coming back into to get on his. He was in the shoulder getting into his vehicle. And the guy behind the thing, behind the thing was kind of dozing off a little bit. And he careens into and Just like, takes a guy getting into his truck clean off, and that's where the video ends. But it's like, you're done. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I once saw a deer when I used to work for the Missoula Children's Theater. I would drive through. I just drove all around the country, basically. And I one time saw a deer leaping out of the woods to go across the highway, and it got hit. The back half of the deer got hit by a semi truck going 80. What do you think happened?

[James]

I think the deer got hit and fell down and got up and ran away. Deers are very resilient, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The back of that deer exploded. Oh, God. Like a bug.

[James]

But you saw this with your own two eyes, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With my eyes. When I tell you. It was like a balloon got popped.

[James]

It's like. It's like a scene from the Boys Come.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[James]

Head popper, guts everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Completely exploded. The front half of the deer is trying to.

[James]

Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now. Crawl through traffic. But I was the. I don't think we. People realize how powerful these fucking. These, like a semi truck. Like, there are moments where, like, cars will careen under a semi truck and the truck won't even stop.

[James]

What was the name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It'll just keep going.

[James]

Yeah. The Mansfield law.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It'll just rip the car in half and keep going.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, you know, they're designed to lose wheels, like, so.

[James]

So they can keep on going.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[James]

Yeah. Why do they need 16 wheels?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they can keep going. Because if. If they're driving so much, I'm assuming I might be wrong. But if you ever seen these ripped up, you ever see all these tire shreds on the street? Yeah, they just rip them. They just keep going. Isn't that crazy? Your whole tire just unexploded. He just fix it at the next stop.

[James]

You know, there's one time after college. After college, but I had heard that truck drivers make so much money. I was like, could I be a truck driver?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it not after college? You said not after college.

[James]

Maybe it was during college.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[James]

I think when I was, like, really contemplating a life in opera, and I was contemplating, like, how much fucking time and energy I have to give this art form, I was like, like, truck driver.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They can make.

[James]

They make, like, six figures a year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like every young black man has contemplated being a truck driver. Right. You ever thought about it? Absolutely not. They said no, Rob. You thought about being a truck driver? Thought about being a truck driver? I have not. Oh, damn.

[James]

So I think so. I think it's safe to say 50% of black men have thought about being truck drivers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just feel like we're all. We all hear how good money it is.

[James]

He has good money. And it's like of a lot of solitude, which I don't mind. Amanda Tu said something the other day. She was like. And this really made me think that maybe star signs there is something there. She's like. Her ex was a Pisces and he was a loner but wanted to be like miss. And I identify with that so much in relationships.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob. What?

[James]

Like, do you identify as being a loner but wanting to be missed?

[Jacob]

No, I don't particularly mind about being missed.

[James]

You just want to be alone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob is a bit of a.

[James]

Like, my ideal thing for me and Andy is for us to be in the home in separate parts. Me doing my thing, you over there doing your thing. But we're in the house together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're yelling at me like I'm Andy.

[James]

To me, that's quality time. I love that. I don't need to be. We don't need to be like this. That I love it.

[Jacob]

You are.

[James]

I'm in my own world. You're in your own world. I come and get something from the fridge. Icu. You come and get something outside. I see you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey.

[James]

To me, love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should date Jacob. You and Jacob get along. Jacob in his room, his little 3D printer. So.

[James]

As a cancer. How do you feel about that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like being abundant people, but I also like. I don't mind people being by themselves. Like, I love being up under somebody.

[James]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you want to ask you dating. You would love it. Like, I love being abundant somebody. But also if you're willing to just like every once in a while, just come back and remind me. Just pop in from what you're doing just to say something really nice to me and give me a compliment or tell me. Give me a compliment.

[James]

Yes.

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Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because it makes me feel good. Come back and tell me that you love me or that I'm pretty or that I'm handsome or that you think I'm good at something. Just randomly tell me I'm really good at something and then go about your business. I just. You do whatever I come and say.

[James]

So you're a thing. I come and say, you know what? You make the best cookies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh, my God. And then leave. That just made me so happy.

[James]

And then leave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like sometimes Jacob just goes, you're so handsome. He'll say. He'll be. I actually have a video. I have a Video of my mom just looking through videos the other day, and there's a video of me and Jacob in bed. He just goes, I love you so much. You're so handsome. And then I would just go back and do my business. So in our home, Jacob be in his. Jacob be in. We're in a three bedroom. So Jacob usually be in the two smaller rooms. Jacob's room is the second largest room. And then we have a guest room where Jacob has turned into his art studio. Non consensual. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[James]

That was pointed, Jacob. I hear the point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob.

[James]

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a bit. But Jacob, his art studio, our art studio. Or he does, like, a lot of stoning and stuff. And then I usually be in the living room, but at night time or in my bedroom, but I'm never home during the day.

[James]

So, you know, Raven and Miranda have separate bedrooms. Yeah, that's all Andy.

[Godoy]

I don't know.

[James]

I genuinely. If I would really like that. Actually, long term, I think, like, once in a blue would be fine. But long term, I think I like. I do like sleeping together. I do like falling asleep together in the same bed. I enjoy that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gonna be hot.

[James]

Yeah, but like, we would be like, literally for like, two minutes. All right, Good night, babe. Love you. Then turn around, do my own thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what if you just cut off for two minutes, then go to your room?

[James]

Then I gotta get up and go downstairs.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, tell him to go to his room.

[James]

No, I like us being in the same bed, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just not interacting.

[James]

We interact. We watch a show together. We're cuddling, watching a show together. Then the show is finished with the TV off. Talk about something forever for like five minutes, a little bit. Start to doze off. All right, good night, then. Suffer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I do like about sleeping in my own bed is like, I don't want you. I don't want you to know what I'm looking at on my phone.

[James]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to be judged for it.

[James]

Is this something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I want to watch fight videos before I go to bed, I don't want you being like, why is this nigga watching fight videos? Like, I want to watch. I want to watch some fight videos. Or if. Or if I want to listen to people argue. Like, if I want to listen to, like, debates before bed, I don't want you being like, why is this motherfucker listening to debate? Like, he's literally listening to people argue before bed. And if it was just like, porn. I wouldn't care, but, like, I don't want you being like, I cannot believe this guy's literally watching knockout videos.

[James]

Slick with this straight porn. I don't give a fuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't care.

[James]

If you're watching. Watching people fight, you think that's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like people are judging me when I watch my fight videos.

[James]

Jacob, do you judge Bob when he watches fight videos?

[Jacob]

I'm not judging, but I also don't want to. I don't want my end of the day about to go to sleep to be accompanied by the sound of people fighting or people arguing about politics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like Jacob knowing that I'm looking at. Because I feel like he's judging me from watching fight videos.

[Jacob]

I'm not judging you, but it makes it hard for me to go to sleep.

[James]

Why don't you just wear a little headphones?

[Jacob]

He doesn't like wearing headphones.

[James]

I don't like wearing headphones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because when you're in bed, they'll, like, fall out of ears or something like that. Or if I'm wearing the big headphones. Sometimes I wear those, but then they're too much. I want to be comfortable, so I just want to be by myself watching my videos. Because I do watch toxic stuff.

[James]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. I'm not just watching cat videos, okay? And I get embarrassed by that.

[James]

So what I do is I will take the volume, I'll put it on the look. Because Andy is such a hard sleeper.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not.

[James]

Let me say Andy, but I do it all the time. Andy is such a hard sleeper. I take the volume, put it, like, literally to the lowest thing where I can still hear it and have it like this. And Andy can't hear it. He doesn't know what's going on. He is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, baby. With Tao, I can have a marching band. It doesn't have to be in the lowest setting because normally, Tao and I are falling asleep to tv. And then this thing. Now you're conditioned to noise. You're asleep with the tv. I can now watch my tiktoks at full, full volume. That is great.

[James]

Yeah. That's what Andy and I are at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also do like falling asleep while people watch tv.

[James]

I like that, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're watching a show that I don't really care about, there's something very confident about falling asleep while you watch a show that you like.

[James]

I agree. Now, here's my thing. Now, I want now, which I. I can acknowledge. That's not fair. Under what I'M asking for what I want. Sometimes that turned out or turned around, like I want. I want to watch something that I really want to watch that you don't care about. But the thing is, Andy can't fall asleep with the tv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so.

[James]

I know. So I. I just, I acknowledge that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought he was a hard sleeper. Huh? I thought he was a hard sleeper.

[James]

But something about the TV playing while he's trying to fall asleep, like actively. He can't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you should date Will fall asleep. Baby, I'm telling you. You turn it when I tell you. You'd be like, all right, we're going to watch.

[James]

Oh, that's a show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What show do we agree on? We agree on this show. We both agree we're watching it, right? Deal. Because we've spent 45 minutes disagreeing on a show and you're gonna watch it. Yeah, right.

[James]

Uh huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Click out me.

[James]

But here's the thing though. We're watching it and Andy does this just fucking annoys me. He's like, baby, you sleep. I'm like, no. And he'll turn around and see me sleeping. He'll be like, wake up. Don't wake me up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy.

[James]

I just let me sleep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that's like several times throughout the episode.

[James]

Like four times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's insane. I know.

[James]

Leave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just leave me alone. I'm sleeping. I will say, though, I do not mind being woken up. I tell Jacob this all the time. I genuinely don't mind being woken up. Like if I'm asleep, don't wake me up and watch the show. Cause I won't survive. I'm not gonna make it through it. But like, if you have to get up and go to the bathroom, you don't have to creep. Just get up. Oh, yeah, yeah, just get up. If the bed rattles and I wake up, I'm telling you, I will go back to sleep. You do not have to worry about me. I'm gonna make it back to sleep. When you wake up in the morning, do not tiptoe. Do not tiptoe. Just wake up and do your thing also.

[James]

And we. Well, I'm not gonna talk about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Thank you. And with that note, thank you for coming, you're gonna refute it my show, I don't even want to hear what it is. I'm refuting it ahead of time. Goodbye, everyone. Monster Energy, Everybody knows White Monster, Zero Ultra, that's the OG it kicked off this whole zero sugar energy drink thing. But Ultra is a whole lineup now.

[James]

You've got Strawberry Dream, Blue Hawaiian Sunrise and Vice Guava. And they all bring the monster energy punch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if you've been living in the.

[James]

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