The One Where Monét Starts Beef

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Sibling Rivalry - The One Where Monét Starts Beef"

Episode Information:

• Title: The One Where Monét Starts Beef
• Release Date: January 20, 2025
• Hosts: Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen
• Description: Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen, the hilariously dynamic duo behind the hit podcast "Sibling Rivalry," navigate personal conflicts and social commentary with their signature infectious chemistry.

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1. Introduction to the Beef with Meatball

Timestamp: [01:36 - 07:02]

The episode begins with Monét X Change expressing her frustration over her recent stay at the Standard East Village Hotel in New York City. Monét recounts the ordeal of arriving to find her hotel room without functioning heat during the winter, highlighting the hotel's poor customer service and lack of basic amenities despite her extensive experience in the hospitality industry.

Monét: "It's the dead of winter, New York City. The heat wasn't working in the first room I got in... they're like, do you have heaters? They're like, no."
[04:33]

Bob The Drag Queen jumps into the conversation with exaggerated claims of orchestrating monét's unfortunate hotel experiences, teasingly threatening to sabotage her future accommodations unless she smooths things over.

Bob: "I'm listening. Go... I mean, you actually don't have to tell me because I already know, because I set all that up."
[05:00]

2. Escalation and Personal Attacks

Timestamp: [11:15 - 12:03]

The discussion takes a sharp turn as Monét openly criticizes Meatball, a prominent LA icon, accusing her of dishonesty and lying about personal matters.

Monét: "Meatball is a fucking nasty, dirty ass, lying bitch... she lied to the entire Internet and said that I got a BBL that I didn't."
[11:42]

Bob supports Monét's stance, humorously contemplating a drag celebrity boxing match to settle the dispute, thereby amplifying the playful yet intense nature of their beef.

Bob: "I would love to do a celebrity boxing. I mean, a drag queen celebrity boxing with her."
[12:21]

3. Delving into Race Perception and Phenotype

Timestamp: [15:00 - 48:52]

A significant portion of the episode shifts to an insightful and humorous exploration of race perception, genetics, and the concept of phenotype. Monét and Bob debate whether a person's racial identity can be misinterpreted based solely on appearance, citing examples like Michael Jackson's changing complexion over the years.

Bob: "Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black."
[50:45]

They further dissect the complexities of race in media and society, touching upon TikTok debates about celebrities' racial identities and the role of public relations in shaping public narratives.

Monét: "But just because you mistook someone's race does not mean they are now a different race."
[41:54]

The hosts elaborate on phenotypic plasticity, explaining that while genetics influence observable traits, environmental factors and personal choices—such as hair dye—can alter one's appearance without changing their intrinsic genetic makeup.

Monét: "The phenotype is the term used to describe the observable characteristics of an organism."
[48:00]

4. Pop Culture References and Personal Anecdotes

Timestamp: [49:11 - 58:37]

Monét and Bob weave in numerous pop culture references, including discussions about "Sex and the City," "The Golden Girls," and various celebrities. Monét shares personal stories related to media portrayals and the challenges of public perception, adding depth to their humorous exchanges.

Monét: "If Annie were a real person, she'd be 102 years old."
[56:45]

Their dynamic chemistry shines through as they humorously align themselves with iconic television characters, showcasing their ability to blend personal narratives with broader social commentary.

Bob: "Am I Miranda? Is Monet Rose Nyland?"
[60:46]

5. Closing Remarks and Final Rants

Timestamp: [58:37 - 62:58]

As the episode nears its end, both hosts engage in playful banter, exchanging jabs and reflecting on their interactions. Monét voices her frustration with perceived dishonesty, attributing it to past misunderstandings, while Bob defends the authenticity of his experiences and interactions.

Bob: "You have 2 out of 9. This does not support your theory."
[22:50]

Their closing remarks are a blend of humor and unresolved tension, leaving listeners intrigued and eagerly anticipating future episodes.

Monét: "We can make that happen for sure."
[62:53]

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Notable Quotes:

• Monét: "He knows and he fucking knows what?"
  [11:42]

• Bob: "Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black."
  [50:45]

• Monét: "If Annie were a real person, she'd be 102 years old."
  [56:45]

• Bob: "You have 2 out of 9. This does not support your theory."
  [22:50]

Conclusion

"The One Where Monét Starts Beef" encapsulates the essence of "Sibling Rivalry" with its blend of sharp humor, candid discussions, and the palpable chemistry between Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen. Through personal grievances, social debates, and pop culture musings, the duo delivers an episode that is both entertaining and thought-provoking, offering listeners an unfiltered glimpse into their unique partnership and individual perspectives.

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Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monét X Change]

And I'm Mon X James.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, Monae starts beef with LA icon Meatball.

[Monét X Change]

Colleen bullies other animals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monét X Change]

Uh, it's a little touch and go. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a grown ass man living in your house right now. What y'all think of a name that sounds like two? Like Juan Vawin?

[Monét X Change]

I think you have the. We've done this like twice on a podcast before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have we ever thought of a name that sounds like two? Sue? Ju2bre? Oh, my God. Is that our new thing? One, two, three.

[Monét X Change]

Well, Beyonce said one, two, three. I thought she said four.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gagged Monet. Gagged Monet. This is my constant reminder, Monet, that I always know where you are. You don't even have to share your location for me to know where you are. Okay?

[Monét X Change]

And I'll never Share my location.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have to. I have people who keep eyes on you. Monet walks into the Delta Lounge and guess who was standing there waiting for her. I was waiting.

[Monét X Change]

You were. Happened. You happened to be going. Leaving. And as you leaving, you saw me coming in. You were like, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I knew you were headed there, Monet. So when you leave your hotel, I have people text me, do you know what I've.

[Monét X Change]

What time was my flight?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monét X Change]

What time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nigga, yeah, your flight was at 7:30 or 7:55.

[Monét X Change]

Wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When was it then?

[Monét X Change]

7:10.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was close. It's approximate times. It's approximate times. So when whatever hotel Monet stays in, someone there calls me and checks and says she made it in. Don't worry, I'm not going to dox you. Monetize.

[Monét X Change]

That's not doxy me. It's a public. People say this hotel all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is doxy. I wanna talk about it.

[Monét X Change]

I'm not saying there not staying there ever again, bitch. It's the dead of winter, New York City. The heat wasn't working in the first room I got in. First of all, I told you this. I paid for the nightclub.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you about to publicly start beef with this hotel Chan?

[Monét X Change]

So I say to the standard East.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Village, Monet has beef with the standard East Village.

[Monét X Change]

And there's one gentleman, I forget his name. It works at the front. He's always so great. He's really, really, really lovely. He wasn't working. So the other folks, again, I'm not blaming them, but I came in, my room was not ready. I sat in the lobby for like three hours. And like, when you know, which was whatever, get into my hotel room. The heat didn't work. I'm like, it is winter in New York. What do you mean the heat doesn't work? And then they were like, oh, do you have heaters? They're like, no. And again, I worked in hotels for a very long time in New York City. Most of them, they have spare heaters available literally for situations like this. Because, you know, maintenance, things break down, things don't work. But you pivot and you make your guests, you accommodate your guests as best as you can. They're like, no, we don't have any heaters. I was like, is there anything you can do for me? They were like, doesn't work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm listening. Go. I mean, you actually don't have to tell me because I already know, because I set all that up.

[Monét X Change]

Anyway, I made sure when you got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There, I Said, have her wait. They said, how long? And they said, an hour. I said, no. They said, two hours. I said, no. I said, three. They said, that's cruel. I said, I know.

[Monét X Change]

And then. So they're like, we can move your room the next day. Move my room the next day. The heat still doesn't work in the second room. I was like, this is crazy that I can't get fucking heat in New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gonna say, if you apologize to me, I'll make sure that you don't have to have that experience next time.

[Monét X Change]

No, thank you. And that's why I always used to stay at the Ace, because the Ace Hotel in midtown, they be taking care of the doll. They take care of the Doll. You know, All Stars seven. I convinced. I was like, Paramount. You guys have to put us all at the Ace Hotel. They're like, are you sure? I was like, yes, it's a great hotel. The Ace Hotel is. Sometimes it's a little dark. So all the girls. Jada. Jada. They were like, ugh. It's so difficult to paint here. The room is so dark. I was like, I know. I don't know why they put us there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl.

[Monét X Change]

This is great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which, meanwhile, Monet will paint in a closet. In the back of a spoon. Monet turns off all the.

[Monét X Change]

In the back of a spoon. Well, that's cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet would turn off all the lights. Monet has a tiny light in the. Monet paints in a dungeon. Then Monet pulls out the smallest mirror you've ever seen in your entire life.

[Monét X Change]

I don't want any other ambient light affecting this. So I like to just everything be off. And I just want direct light in a small device because I like to get detail. That's why I get to use a small mirror.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want me to stop making your travel experiences hard for you?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I would love that, actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, just apologize.

[Monét X Change]

I'm going on tour for the next month. It'll be great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anthony, just apologize to me.

[Monét X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or else I'm gonna make the call. And every stop you have, you're gonna have the same thing. No air in the winter, no air in the summer, no heat in the winter. No. Bitch. There might not be a floor in the next hotel you stay in. I'll have them remove the bed from your room until you can get yourself together anyway. You know, they would remove beds from rooms if you ask them to do.

[Monét X Change]

They will. Do they really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So when I was on the way here. Yeah, when I was. When we were here, they Would take an entire room and make it the sewing room or the something. So the, like, often one hotel room would be the one where, like, where the. Where they do either costumes or they do hair.

[Monét X Change]

But I mean, I don't imagine. I mean, you. Y'all also going to, like, scooby bop bop boop skibidi little towns. Maybe that's a little more easier to accommodate. I find it hard to believe you go to, like, a big hotel in New York. Like, you go to the eighth hotel. Like, can you move a bed from a homeroom?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They will, I'm telling you. Money. I'm telling you, if you give people enough money, they will move. They will start. They will build a wing.

[Monét X Change]

I'm just gonna say it's probably gonna cost a lot of money to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to pay them money. They're not gonna just be like, I don't think anyone can. I don't think everyone can be like, can you please? I have never had. I have never personally had anyone remove a bed from a hotel room, But I have been in several hotel rooms that had the beds removed. And I remember being like, oh, my God. You can just ask them to remove beds. That's crazy. But they would.

[Monét X Change]

Can you ask them to remove the bedbugs, you think, here at bedbugs? No, and I don't ever want to, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You ever know someone who's going through bedbugs? No, you never know someone going through bedbugs.

[Monét X Change]

If they did, they never made it known to me. I didn't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy, because you and I lived in New York City during the bedbug rush.

[Monét X Change]

Honey, there have been a few bedbug rushes since I've lived in New York City, but I've never known anyone going through it. Have you ever had bed bugs?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now we got bedbugs. Take a look under the rug. I wrote a bedbug parody years ago.

[Monét X Change]

Wait, did you. Have you had bedbugs?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Never?

[Monét X Change]

Not once have you known someone that has had bedbugs?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Several.

[Monét X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Several. Yeah. And I know this is just a quote. This quote does sound problematic. I just want you all to know that this is not my quote. This is just someone expressing their feelings about how difficult it is to have bedbugs. A guy once said, I contracted HIV in the height of the AIDS epidemic, and having bedbugs is worse than that. Screaming, he go, it is. It is worse. He. These are not my words. I'm just saying, a guy was like, it is. He. He was like, it is. That Difficult. He goes, it is genuinely that difficult. And I was like, that's wild. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

I never had.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when you have bedbugs, you have to. You have to get rid of everything.

[Monét X Change]

Bitch Potato had fleas and I was going crazy. But I was crazy. I like, I stripped furniture from everything that. From the couch, everything. I was like fucking bleaching his hand inside the room. It was crazy. It was fleas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did I get fleas? You don't go nowhere.

[Monét X Change]

So when we were at the old place and I think Andy took. Andy left and met one of his friends places. And her cat, I think ended up having flea. So Potato got it that way. It was like a whole thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does Potato have friends? Like dog friends?

[Monét X Change]

I don't know, actually. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does Colleen have cat friends?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, at the pet sitter. Aiko's. Aiko has a pet and a dog and Aiko. When I leave Colleen there, Colleen bullies the other animals off of their beds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shocker.

[Monét X Change]

Like the big dog has a little bed of likes. Colleen will go over and she'd be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, oh my God. Who'd have thought. Who would have thought that Colleen would bully they. Colleen would mimic the behavior that she sees around her. That's crazy.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. When you come over. Correct. Yes. She's mimicking you. Her aunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we gotta get. Maybe. Maybe Potato want to hang out with Gucci.

[Monét X Change]

Who's Gucci?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amber's dog, Gucci. Oh, maybe Gucci's old and chill though.

[Monét X Change]

Potato is. Potato is a young. Is a puppy. But Potato's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess it's not a puppy.

[Monét X Change]

Potato's a puppy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Potato's gotta be at least three or.

[Monét X Change]

Four years old and that's still a puppy. And dog ears.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Four years old is considered a puppy and doggy.

[Monét X Change]

No, he's three after, I think four and up. You're. You're adult.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like cats.

[Monét X Change]

Cats. Cats are. Cats are adult at 1.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A puppy is between 12 and 18 months. Oh yeah, that dog. That's a grown ass man in your house. That's a grown ass man living in your house right now.

[Monét X Change]

A gam.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep, a gam. So he's a grown man and he needs some grown man friends. Gucci's an old man.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. I met Ambrosel Gucci. Do you know, someone asked me the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Other day at the. I don't remember where I was. I'm trying to remember where was I? I was at precinct and someone came to me and just said, why does Monet just lie and make up stuff?

[Monét X Change]

Who said that? Was it Meatball? It was some meatball is Wanda talk. Meatball literally makes things up all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are attacking Meatball for.

[Monét X Change]

No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, I'm attacking Meatball separately. From what you said, Meatball is a fucking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like. You said you wanted to talk. She didn't say nothing about you.

[Monét X Change]

Meatball is a fucking nasty, dirty ass, lying bitch. And I. The next time I see her is on the fuck site. Meatball. You hear me, bitch? You see? The next time I see you is on fucking site. You fucking lying ass, dirty ass, bitch ass, ho ass. What does she lie about? She knows and she fucking knows what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is happen? I just want to be clear. It was not Meatball, ok? Who would win in a fight? You're a meatball girl.

[Monét X Change]

I will Mollywop the fuck out of that bitch. Honestly, Meatball, somebody would do it. I would love. I would do a celebrity boxing. I mean, a drag queen celebrity boxing with her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did I miss a chapter of the world? How did you not?

[Monét X Change]

The meatball is constantly attacking me, be smirching my name online. How she lied to the entire Internet and said that I got a BBL that I didn't. And she's like, she was like. She was like, I was there when I got the vbl. She's like, I saw it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In her defense, I also saw it.

[Monét X Change]

Well, I want to fight you too, but honestly, I would love to do a drag queen celebrity boxing match with Meatball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You got a bff? Big fucking foot.

[Monét X Change]

You got one to talk with your big ass. With your slave hands.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My feet are smaller than yours. We've already covered your hands.

[Monét X Change]

Your big ass, meaty ass paws, bitch. So you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The other day we were out. The other day me and Monet were out at Caba Cappucalli, Capioli, Capa Cavalle.

[Monét X Change]

I forgot the name of this restaurant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cappelli, Capoli. What's it called?

[Monét X Change]

Capelia. You're very close. Coppelia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Coppelia. And then Monet was on her random rants about the size of my frying pan hands, my catcher's mitts, my Christmas hams. And then we. And then we held our hands up. And then all of Monet's friends were like, your hands are the same size.

[Monét X Change]

All of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're the same size. Call them now. Call them now.

[Monét X Change]

Call me now for your free tarot reading.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no substitute. Call Aritza.

[Monét X Change]

Call them now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were all like, they're the same side also. Yeah, I love being right with Aritza.

[Monét X Change]

Not Aritza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Aritza. We were hanging out, and then I looked at Aritza.

[Monét X Change]

Wild night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I looked at Aritza, and I was like, oh, my God. And I looked at Monet. I said, do you realize that Aritza looks just like Nicki Minaj? Emine was like, no. I was like, no, she looks like Nicki Minaj. I bet a dollar she gets it.

[Monét X Change]

That's a picture of me and Aritza, right? Right here. Let me send it to Jacob right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, I bet she gets it all the time. And I was like, no, no, no. And then. And I said, I'm telling you, she's gonna say. She's gonna say all the time. And then I leaned over to Aritza and I said, has anyone ever told you you like Nicki Minaj? And without missing a beat, she goes all the time. I was like, oh, that feels. It felt so delicious. So then Arisa, I need to keep her around because she. She keeps Monet in check. Her and arcia, all the AEAs are awesome. Whatever. ASAs keep Monet in check.

[Monét X Change]

Hold on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the was that? All the eatsa, like, the ASAs, the Aritza, Arcia, all the Arcadia, Just us.

[Monét X Change]

Do you just say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then at the end, too, it ends and begins with like, we need to get an Amanda up in here to keep you together. So then Monet was swing her hands bigger than mine. Arissa was like, no, they're the same size. And then this was probably my. This was probably the most delicious moment of the evening.

[Monét X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Monet has been on this rampage. Now, I worked in restaurants for probably, like, eight years, and there is a stereotype that black people always get their steaks and their burgers well done. But from my field experience, I have experienced that black people mostly get their steaks and their burgers, especially their burgers. But medium well. Almost always they do medium well. And Monet was like, no, black people always get their steaks done well done. Then I said, well, I don't. I get my medium well. How do you get yours? Monet said, medium. I said, well, then there we have two people.

[Monét X Change]

No, see, I already said. I said medium well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get.

[Monét X Change]

I get my six. Medium well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That feels like a lot. But then it's not.

[Monét X Change]

Ask Andy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then Monet was like, no, but black people do. So then we turned to Canon, and. And I said, canon, how do you get your steaks done? And he was like, medium. I said, okay, so there goes that. And then when they was like, no, but black people always get them well done. Then we turned to Aritza with, how do you get your done? She was like, medium. I was like, okay, Med well.

[Monét X Change]

She said, medium well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Medium well. But she didn't say well though, right?

[Monét X Change]

That medium well. I. I said. She said medium well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there were four of us. And I was like, well, I just don't see. And then I was like, what if we just.

[Monét X Change]

I would say arita and cannabol. Like, nah, but I know a lot of black people. That's how to get this sick well done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then we were like, okay, let's ask some random people. Aritza got up, asked this guy. She goes, how do you get your stick? He goes, medium rare or he said, rare.

[Monét X Change]

Medium rare. Then we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm almost done. I'm almost done. I'm. I'm not done talking. I'm still what? I'm still reclaiming my time. I'm still talking. I'm talking. I'm talking, Mr. Vice President. I'm talking. Thank you.

[Monét X Change]

No, that's not who it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it was. Kamala Harris said, it's.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, k. I think. Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mike Pence. Yeah. And then she asked the lady who was with that man, and then she said, medium. And then, then she asked the security guard, and the security guard said, well done. And what I said was a big.

[Monét X Change]

Part of the story when the Bob was like. Bob was like, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll find.

[Monét X Change]

If you can find me one black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not what I said. You already misquoting me. You're already. Go ahead and misquote me and then I'll tell you what you say. No, you misquote me first. Misquote me first.

[Monét X Change]

No, not misquoting you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can misquote me right after this break. A break. Stop talking.

[Monét X Change]

We're on a break. Shut your mouth. You let me shut my fat ass mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

Happy New Year, you big nasty stank, funky, begging, hungry, greedy foot dragging old bald head, big bunky back pickled pig feet, smelly star crunched skin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, by the way, if y'all hang out with rc, that's how they talk. I was like, I don't want to be a part of this. I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that.

[Monét X Change]

That was tame. We're worse than that. I like, let me call. I'll call RC real quick. She probably answered because she's off. And this y'all, this is unprompted. RC has no idea this is happening. Y'all gonna hear how we talk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She could say hello, you big nasty slew foot.

[Monét X Change]

Hey, there you been. She is. She probably call me back. Yeah, that's how we Go ahead, misquote.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go ahead, misquote me, y'all.

[Monét X Change]

Eddie, y'all. There is literally hours of footage of this podcast Bob saying this exact same thing and y'all know it. He goes, monet, I'll give you till the end of the dinner to find one black person that likes that thing well done. And I was like, okay. Again, we asked those two people, they said no. Then we asked the security guard, and he was like, yeah, I like my Sig well done. I was like, boom, so now what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, that doesn't prove that most. Because I want to be. Because what I was saying was you. I would give you the Internet to find more black people to more. You said one y'all, but you did. But that does. But that doesn't Prove. We asked. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. And then out of all those seven, we had no me, you cannon Aritza. The two at the bar. That's six plus seven. The bar. The security guard. Yeah. No counting as big foot SL crunch, Big gorilla back.

[Monét X Change]

You got some of them. You ball water mammal sitting on a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chinchilla shouldered Donkey Kong knuckle ass. No, but then, so. So then I was like, well, let me just text a friend. So I text Larry, I text dj2face.

[Monét X Change]

This is. This is weeks ago, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this the same at the same time. I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I showed can. I didn't show you. I text him at the dinner table.

[Monét X Change]

At that point, I was. I was twisting McQuisty. I've been drinking so much that day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Medium rare. So I'm saying is from the Phil. Just from asking all the people in our circle and. And random people at the bar. So out of eight people, Monet got one guy to say well done when they was like, see, that proves it. Most. Most white people do well done sex. Most don't. No, don't text. Nothing shady. Just call.

[Monét X Change]

I'm just. I'm. I'm calling Kika.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Kevin. I can't do her accent.

[Monét X Change]

Y'all K. You're on the podcast. Y'all hear K answer the phone. This how K answer for retard. She'll be like, hello, Mika, quick question. How do you like your steaks and burgers. And burgers. Well done. Good. Thank you very much. I wanted to verify that I love you. I'm gonna call you out through friends of podcast. Love you too. Love you guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have 2 out of 9. This does not support your theory. You have 2 out of 9.

[Monét X Change]

Okay, I'm not gonna do a list and call all the black people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Two out of nine.

[Monét X Change]

Let me call one more. Let me call one more black person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm gonna call too. And I'M calling too, honey.

[Monét X Change]

Good morning. Good morning, dejuan. You're on the podcast. Happy New Year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Happy New Year Burgers.

[Monét X Change]

Let's listen. I. I have a question, Dwan. How do you like your burgers and your steak cooked well done? Thank you. All right. Just wanted to just verify that I'm gonna call you after we finish the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have three out of 10. You have three out of 10. It's not looking good for you, Mom. You have to do a lot of catching up. You got to do a lot of catching up, Ms. Mamas. I'm in Mexico, so my call might not go through as well.

[Monét X Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it's not. It's, like, ringing weird. You hear me trying to call.

[Monét X Change]

Y'all know Jacob and Bob be doing weird shit with their fucking devices.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your level of parent, because you and your boyfriend lie to each other don't mean that. Me and Jacob.

[Monét X Change]

Because you and Jacob lied to me. You guys created a whole scenario about a ring that created a whole.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is your big hand. Your big giant hand.

[Monét X Change]

Y'all created a whole scenario about a ring to make me look crazy, and then one day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. That is my ring. The ring is. I've had that.

[Monét X Change]

I have trust issues with y'all. Jacob came clean years ago in this podcast, so stop complaining.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The ring was. I've had that ring for literally years.

[Monét X Change]

Y'all are the reason I have. I have trust issues on this podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Being weird about it. I have literally had that ring for years. That you have no proof that I. I have proof that I've had the ring for years. I have proof. What do you have?

[Monét X Change]

I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you have? Huh?

[Monét X Change]

Anyway, so besides giant hands, besides frying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pan hands, what do you have? You have something.

[Monét X Change]

Look at. Look at that covering that microphone. That microphone is 12ft long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Besides hand. Besides hands the size of catcher's mitts, what do you have?

[Monét X Change]

A fucking. A fucking chicken. A chicken at a drum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what we got, lady. Two wrong feet and fucking ugly shoes.

[Monét X Change]

All right, Julia, you could never. Have you seen this whole Blake Lively thing? No, I posted on my story. So Blake Lively did this movie. It ends with us really quick. And then she had some inappropriate things that happened on set with the director. Slash a co star, like, improvising kisses. And one of the produ. Like, one of this guy. Like, she was changing backstage and, you know, she asked. They asked him to look away. He didn't. He was, like, watching her change anyway. Just misconduct on set. So to, like, deter Her. The New York Times did a whole thing about it to, like, make her look crazy. They started this, like, crazy PR campaign, paying, like, $200,000 to this PR firm. And, like, they have all these things back and forth with them, like, talking about how they're going to bury her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Paying for $200 a pr. How much you say?

[Monét X Change]

$200,000 a month.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can slander someone name for 200 bucks. Jacob, let's dig into the savings. I got a couple of people I want to malign, girl.

[Monét X Change]

And it's like. It's just crazy how, like, a PR company can put all this misinformation and shady things about someone to make them look crazy when they were the ones who experienced. It's just like, I put on my story if anyone's interested. I mean, y'all not gonna see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What were they saying about Blake Lively?

[Monét X Change]

They just, like, was, like, trying to twist. Twist the narrative, like, put different things out about her, like, pay different TikTok account. TikTok accounts to say, like. Like to just sway public opinion about Blake Lively to make her look crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you see a couple of months ago that people were being mean to Blake Lively on TikTok? Yes.

[Monét X Change]

And that's what it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it was interesting.

[Monét X Change]

I was like, this is the fact that we live in a time where you can do this is crazy. But again, it's not new, right? People used to do with fucking tabloids and gossip magazines and planted paparazzi pictures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, what do you think? So do you think it happened to JLo?

[Monét X Change]

I don't know. Maybe because that. The jello thing did feel like. Feel like it just happened randomly out of nowhere. Like, all of a sudden, one day, one TikTok went out about her and orange drink or whatever it was. And then I feel like overnight, everything I saw was, JLO is so phony. Ugh, I hate her. Why do we support. It was just like the world had turned on JLo. What did she do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what did JLO do? Well, apparently Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively did have a plantation wedding.

[Monét X Change]

A plantation wedding. Like, at a. At a. At a. At a. Deadpool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Deadpool star ryan Reynolds in 2020. Oh. So Deadpool star Ryan Reynolds said that he and his wife, actress Blake Lively, are. Are deeply, unreservedly sorry for holding their 2012 wedding ceremony at a South Carolina plantation. It is impossible to reconcile. So my question is, was these people just basically just fighting true stuff about Blake Lively with. So it seems like the Blake Lively dig up. Digging up Blake Lively stuff was retaliate or. Or preemptive to retaliate against Blake Lively being like, hey, you. So I think two things can be true at once. Kind of like, what's her name? The lady from Bombshell.

[Monét X Change]

Megan Kelly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The movie Bombshell. Megan Kelly. Megyn Kelly. While Megyn Kelly was sexually. There was sexual misconduct toward Megyn Kelly at Fox. She's also a crazy racist lady.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Simultaneously, I mean, I don't know, dying to say something. Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly is the one who. Who, who, who's.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Megan Kelly, who goes on her annual rant that Santa Claus is white every year and that Jesus is white every year.

[Monét X Change]

Sorry, y'all. I have, like, phlegm deep in the back of my throat. Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His name is phlegm?

[Monét X Change]

No, his name was Marcus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was deep in the back. How deep back there was he? Girl, can you swallow really, really long penises?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I can go. I can. I can. I have. I'm. I'm. I'm. I have a very, very talented throat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you've never met a penis? You couldn't get your chin on their balls?

[Monét X Change]

Not once.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never. Not once.

[Monét X Change]

Never. Not once. No, no, that's not true. I have met some. That's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If Monet could not depo you, please comment below. If you have personally hooked up with Monet and she could not rise to the occasion, then please comment below.

[Monét X Change]

Can I tell you something? I mean, I don't. I don't know this. It's not problematic, but it's one of the moments that happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monét X Change]

I was hooking up with this. And this matters. This black Dominican guy in New York, and then we were, like, hooking up, and then he looks and he goes. He go, yo, yo. I just. I just love seeing, like, our skin color together. And again, that's not problematic. And, like, it's fine. But it was very in the moment. I was like, are we fetishizing each other? Which we all fetish is, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let's flip the tables. Okay? Two pasty white people are together, and one of them goes, I love seeing our skin color together. Is it weird?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, because they're white, though. Because we're black. I don't feel like it's weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you the one who brought it up and said it was weird? Bitch, I never said it like it was weird.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't think it was weird. But in the context of, like, where we are right now in the world, when anything happens, my brain is always kind of thinking about, like, is this problematic how are, like, even though it's like you and I can say, I don't know, something about us being black. And in the back of my head, I'm always kind of thinking the gears are always turning. Like, where did this land in the world of problematism?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, you said gears. I'm so proud of you.

[Monét X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said gears. You didn't say gears. You said gears. Everyone give it up for Monet.

[Monét X Change]

Jacob, if you clap, I'm gonna punch you in your face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Excuse you.

[Monét X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob's been taking boxing classes. I'll have you know.

[Monét X Change]

Look at Jacob. Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, years ago, and I mean, years ago, I was, like, 24, maybe. I was, by the way, to show you all how absurd this interaction, how crazy this interaction was. This was happening through HR you are the HR Jacob, not Jacob. Not many punching HR I was Craigslist email. Because when you look up on Craigslist, you have to email, y'all. You have to email back and forth. Email. That's crazy. We were emailing, and I was looking up this guy, and he was. Well, I was getting ready to hook up with this guy. We actually never made it. Hooking up. And he was. He was a black guy. And it does matter for this context, right? So the guy was, like, just trying, you know. You know, trying to see what are you into? What are you into? What are you into? This kind of stuff. He was like, are you into watching porn? And I. And at the time, I was like, I mean, not. Not for hooking up. Not really, but I'm. But I could, like, I. You know, I'm. I think you're really attractive, and I. And I wanna. And I wanna hook up with you. I know that. So if you wanna watch some porn, we can watch some porn when we hook up together. And he was like, okay, what kind of porn do you watch? And I was like, you know, gay. Mostly gay porn. Just most like, mostly gay porn. He goes, okay, so what if I put on porn and there's a white guy in it? Would you. Would you. Would you lose your erection? And I was like, no. He was like, so you telling me if there's a white guy in the porn, you can still watch it? And I was like, yeah, I can still watch it. Yeah. And he was. And then. But then it became. Then it became this whole thing about him being, like, disappointed in the fact that I wouldn't be disgusted if there's a white guy on the phone. I was like, but this is crazy because, like, I'm trying To hook up with you. Like, I'm trying to hook up with you in this moment. This is about me.

[Monét X Change]

You've added the. You've added the porn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then he basically was saying, like, if you're attracted to. I guess what he was getting at was, if you're. If you would be attracted to a white person, I don't want to hook up with you.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which I guess is his prerogative and his thing. But I was like, but you and I are hooking up. Like, this is me and you. We never got there.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. Interesting work. How do we get on the topic?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you and you and you and the Dominican guy.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't know how we got the Dominican guy from Blake Lively, because.

[Monét X Change]

Blake Lively is Dominican.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

America. But there is a chance that P. J. Lo's demise is all because of retaliation.

[Monét X Change]

But of what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would know, because she didn't even get a chance to. Because she got maligned.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy how you can do this and this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you say we should go support Jayla?

[Monét X Change]

I don't. I didn't say that. I don't know what Joe's going through, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't want. Do you say we should not support JLo?

[Monét X Change]

I didn't say that. I don't know what Joe's going through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think about JLo? I need you to take a stand. I need you to take a public stance on JLO after this.

[Monét X Change]

No, we don't. But, y'all, we'll take a break, and I still won't give you a stance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I talk about my niece? Jeez.

[Monét X Change]

Tell me about Colleen since you know so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. The first time I saw Monet feed Colleen Smalls, it was like magic. Believe it or not, her favorite flavor is ground bird. Y'all. She is vicious, honey. She said, I want my birds ground up. And then when they did, like, a side by side test with the old food, she went straight for Smalls, baby. They ground bird for the win. You are the winner of this week's challenge. Now, every time we open up a pouch, she comes running over like it's a five star restaurant. And Smalls has made a huge difference, not just in how much she, like, she loves me because she knows that I'm the one who provides it. She knows Monet would never. Monet was giving her the old food, but also for overall health. Her breath is better. Her fur. And she does have fur, which is. Which is crazy. Her fur is softer than ever. Plus, Small works with Humane Society donating over a million dollars worth of food to help cats in. You can even donate at checkout if.

[Monét X Change]

You'Ve got a picky eater. Smalls offers a sampler so your cat can try everything they have to offer. And here's the best part. Smalls is so confident your cat will love their food that they offer a risk free guarantee. If your cat doesn't eat it, they'll refund you. Head to smalls.com rivalry and use promo code rivalry@checkon for 50% off your first order plus free shipping. That's the best offer you'll find, but you must use our code RIVALRY for 50% off your first order and free shipping one last time. Smalls.com Rivalry and use promo code RIVALRY.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

ABC Wednesdays Tim Allen and Kat Dennings star in the new family comedy Shifting Gears. Dad, I'm broke and I need a place to stay until I figure out what the rest of my life looks like. So a couple of days when his daughter moves back in. The last time you walked out that door, you looked back at me and gave me a double bird. I was 18. The double bird was how I ended all our conversations. The wheels come off. Can we try to talk to each other like rational adults? Have you watched the news lately? That's not a thing anymore. New Wednesdays, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. Hi bald. It's me, Trixie Mattel, skinny legend and board certified H Vac sommelier. And me, Katya Zamolechkova, the sweatiest creature in showbiz reminding you to subscribe to the Bald and the Beautiful podcast. Listen as we cover top topics as varied as proper bidet usage, celebrity impression tutorials and a television show I recently watched that I'll base my entire personality on for six weeks, as well as creative pest control, tasty limeade recipes and fun sex act trends. We also chat about boobs and movies and wigs and stuff, which is obviously the public service part of the podcast. So get ready for screaming, cackling and some occasional educational moments as two massively un qualified queens talk about what it's like to be the epitome of fabulous. Go subscribe to the Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie Mattel and Katya Zomoletskova on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening right now. Why are people from Brooklyn so jealous of people from the Bronx?

[Monét X Change]

You know, I think that the Bronx they just have seen just the how successful Brooklynites have been in our lives.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not what I said. I said, why are people from Brooklyn so jealous? People from the Bronx.

[Monét X Change]

And I think people in the Bronx are just obsessed with how successful we are and how fierce people from Brooklyn are and how sick they are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It feels like you're taking part of the. The campaign against JLo, and I feel like it's because she's from the Bronx.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, it's because I think as of JLo being a Bronx tonight, she is. I think we also be. Jlo has given, you know, regardless of who was ghost singing her shit, whatever. JLo was giving us some. Some bops. If you want to treat me yes, you don't. If you want a man my gush. I don't Even if you were, bro.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Any lyrics you want, go ahead. Any lyrics you want.

[Monét X Change]

Just do. Any lyrics you choose. My love don't cost a thing thing, thing. Here we go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember when all the. When all the pop girls were black girl?

[Monét X Change]

Pink. Pink.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blackpink. The original blackpink girl Pink, y'all.

[Monét X Change]

Pink was an rv. Black used to be black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling y'all, Pink used to be black. I'm not making this up.

[Monét X Change]

Have you seen. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gwen. Stefano was black for a little while.

[Monét X Change]

Who? Oh, yeah, Gwen Stefani was black. She was black a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gwen Stefani was black. Pink was black. I felt like the girls stopped being, you know, I think ushered in white girls stopped being black.

[Monét X Change]

Who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to say it. It was Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga was like, guys, we got to stop being black.

[Monét X Change]

No, it happened before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think there's been a truly successful black white girl since Poker Face dropped.

[Monét X Change]

Post.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Poker Face.

[Monét X Change]

That's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who? Oh.

[Monét X Change]

Ass. Jacob. That's girl. But let's not talk about that one. But yes, for sure. That's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lady Gaga. You did not have the impact you.

[Monét X Change]

Thought you wanted, Jacob. That was what was on my mind as well. I was like, girl, are you joking?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I redact my statement. There have been some successful black white girls, but it's less prevalent.

[Monét X Change]

All the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not all. I'm being a little bit facetious. Britney Spears was never like a black girl.

[Monét X Change]

No, never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But a lot of them used to be, like, black white girls.

[Monét X Change]

Girl. 100% that she was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To the point where people couldn't tell if the black girls were black girls. People thought Mariah Carey was a white girl.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I grew up thinking Mariah Carey was white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I was having this conversation the other day about. On. Okay, first of all, I'm Back in my TikTok debate streets, which, by the way, I need to stop. It is so toxic, Monet. But I can't stop.

[Monét X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't stop. I can't help myself.

[Monét X Change]

I know. I know this about you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in my hotel room vaping and tiktoking my two favorite vices.

[Monét X Change]

Aren't you supposed to be on vacation on the beach? Oh, wait, it's everybody else on the beach. Are you just in your hotel room?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is in New York. This is after Annie. And I was trying to stay awake to make it to my flight on.

[Monét X Change]

Time, because y'all know if Baba took what took his ass to bed, he would have missed that flight. He would have been hitting up everyone the next day like, y'all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I did not have a history of missing that many. I've missed a few fights in my day. But when you. When you take as many fights I've taken, you're gonna miss some.

[Monét X Change]

Well, I have never missed a single. I missed. I missed one flight, Pat, and I haven't missed one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you have. Thank you.

[Monét X Change]

One flight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you have.

[Monét X Change]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stop talking. Sorry. Tell us. I'm gonna stop talking when you're. It's so inflammatory. But anyway, so we were having a conversation about. I was just trying to say there are times where you can appear to be a race that you're not. Like, you can. You can look like a race that you are not. That is a thing. And then they were trying to argue with it. They're like, that's not a thing. That's not a thing. That's not fancy. It is the thing. People will look at someone, and they will be a different race than they actually are. And they were like, well, who? And I was like, well, for example, a lot of people thought DJ Khaled was black. I didn't think it was black, but there are people. And then even one of the hosts. And even one of the hosts, like, yeah, I thought he was black. I was like. So you admit that people can appear not to everybody, but to some people. You can confuse people's race. You thought DG Khaled was black. Now, it's not necessarily because he necessarily looked black, but he was also appropriating a lot of black culture. He was hanging out with a lot of black people. He was making black music, and he was dressing a certain way, getting his hair cut a certain way. And he's not particularly like. He's not, like, pale. So you would just look and be like, oh, he black. And you just keep moving about your life just like a bunch of people thought and to this day think Mariah Carey is a white lady despite the fact that she's a black lady. Yeah, the whole conversation was, is Sophia Richie, who I just found out about, by the way? You probably know she is. She. This is, this is World. She's lying on Richie's daughter.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, the question is Nicole Richie's sister.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, but Nicole Richie, I think Nicole Richie was adopted. So they're not, they're not blood related, but she is.

[Monét X Change]

Her name is Sophia Richie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't Nicole Richie adopted? Did I make that up?

[Monét X Change]

I don't think that's true. I think she's, that's Lionel. I don't think she's adopted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think Lionel Richie adopted her. Jacob's gonna look, Google right now. I'm, I'm almost positive that Nicole Richard was adopted. I'm almost, I'm in the realm of 100 positive, 90s, 5 positive that Nicole Richie was adopted. It was like a big. Was it like a big plot line in, In Simple Life or something?

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I don't know. Nicole Richie adopted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just Google if she's adopted. Jacob, say, is Nicole Richie.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, Nicole Richie was adopted by Lionel Richie and then his wife and then wife Brenda when she was nine years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't apologize for being wrong.

[Monét X Change]

Don't apologize for sucking my dick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, so the question was, is Sophia Richie, Sofia Richie white? Is she? They could be like, who is this? And I said, I don't know this. I don't know this woman. I don't know who this woman is. I've never seen her before because I had just discovered her in this moment. Apparently, it's a big debate on TikTok whether or not she's black or if she's white. Right. And they were like, no, she's white. And I was like, well, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I said, she does look white to me. I would say this woman does look white. But I can't always guess someone's race by looking at them. That's not always the best way to tell someone's race. Usually.

[Monét X Change]

Usually, I mean, this looks like a white woman. If I saw this person, I'm like, oh, it's a white lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I was like, usually it'd be pretty spot on. Usually if I, usually if I see someone, I'd be like, oh, that's a black person's white person. Blah, blah, blah. This Asian person, sometimes it might Be like, I'm not 100 sure, but I know they're not white.

[Monét X Change]

Or I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not 100 sure, but I know they're not black. Or I'm 100, but I know they're not Asian. You know what I mean? Yeah. But then. So that was the. I. I'm actually. We got so lost in the sauce and we actually all ended up being quite friends in the end of the tick tock debate. We actually started having a really good time in kikiing and, like, really enjoying ourselves. But I was trying to state the case that sometimes you cannot tell someone's race simply by looking at them. But just because you mistook their race does not make them a different race. I would just say. I was just saying, like, just because you mistook someone's race does not mean that that person is now a different race because you mistook their race.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, that makes sense. Have you seen that guy who talks about the Diana ross effect on TikTok?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Diana Ross effect?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. Basically, like, kind of like, I'm gonna send it to you so you can take a look at it. You should watch this. I want to send it to you on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Like, for example, so while you look for it, I was saying, like, for example, there were a lot of people in Washington who thought Rachel Dolejo was black. They looked at her, they thought she was black. But that does not make Rachel. Even though, like, all the folks in the community were like, oh, this lady's black. Several people thought she was black. That never actually made her a black woman.

[Monét X Change]

Wait, I sent you the wrong video. I'll try to find it. But this is guy basically talking about, like, how, like, I wanted to send.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me a video for sucking someone off. Can I post?

[Monét X Change]

God, that's a guy. That's. That's the Dominican guy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the flam.

[Monét X Change]

Mm. Fuck. I don't know where I saw it. I don't know. Anyway, basically talking about how, like, you can, like, kind of like in just like one generation, your family can change, like two generations, your family can completely, like, change your race. Like, for example, right, he gave Diana Ross's son Evan Ross. Cause Diana. Cause Evan. Evan Ross is half black, half white, I believe. And then Evan married Ashlee Simpson, who is white. So their kids, like, just look like white kids. They don't look black anymore. He was like, in like two generations, your family can go from a black family to a completely different race look, a phenotype looking. And then he was like. And it happened to his family as well. Like, his entire family's black, but his someone was with a Dominic, a white looking Dominican person. So in like two generations, he's the only, like black phenotype looking person's family. And they're. They're all cousins and whatever. Cousins and grand cousins or whatever it is. But he's the only one that looks black and everyone else looks white in his family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because. Because even though. Even though it will try to kind of go. But it is still possible for some recessive genes for a black child to randomly pop out.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, but he was possible for a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

White child to just randomly pop out.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that wild?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. And then he, like, put a picture, which is kind of problematic of like, Diana Ross's family because they had like a family or something. And like, it was like. Yeah, it was like, wow. Like, Like Dan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it a gradient? It kept getting wider and wider toward the end.

[Monét X Change]

No, just like Diana Ross is like the one black person, like, looking at everybody else. Kind of like, why. It's kind of like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's kind of like Danna Ross is black.

[Monét X Change]

I know. As I'm saying, so she's the one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Black looking person, by the way.

[Monét X Change]

She's beautiful and she's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Evan Ross is fine.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, he's. He's hot. He's hot. But in like there. It's like a Christmas picture, y'all. I don't remember me. Someone probably seen a video. It's like a Christmas picture or something of the Ross family. And then Ross is just as like, clearly like this black lady with the rest of her family, but they're all like, white and like a white looking and white passing. And she does this black lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, hey, it's kind of.

[Monét X Change]

It's interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a. There's a. I don't know if she's trolling or if it's true, but there is this. Because you never know what's real on tick tock. But I'm just gonna take her at face value. There's this black lady. She's like. She's like my complexion. And she is. She gave birth to a white baby. She has. She's holding this baby and the baby is white with blonde hair. And she's like, yo, I do not know why my baby's white with blonde hair. Black. Yeah. What is a white baby? Like a white.

[Monét X Change]

Is a baby albino?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nope. White with blonde hair and blue eyes.

[Monét X Change]

Wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's like, y'all, I do not know why my baby is White. I cannot tell you why my baby's white. None of my other babies are white, but this baby is white. I do not know what happened, but she was like, but this is my baby and she's white.

[Monét X Change]

I want my baby. White baby. White baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was also trying to tell someone this other prison. You're going to prison. I love you. Tell someone this too. Your phenotype can change.

[Monét X Change]

Like with generate. Not in one, not in you. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your type can change from day to day. Your phenotype is just observable things about your body. When you dye your hair, you change your phenotype. Phenotype is not genetics. Genetics inspire your phenotype, but they can be changed when you get taller. Your phenotype change. When you gain weight, your phenotype changes. When you cut your nails, your phenotype changes. Phenotype is literally just observable traits about a person. Your phenotype can 100. Your phenotype is non stop. I see it. Check. Get that off the screen. Your phenotype is. Your phenotype is non stop. Never not changing. When you wake up, your phenotype is slightly different than it was when you go to sleep at night. So that's what I. So. But then. But this is. This is how misinformation gets spread. So now there's this conversation online where like phenotype can't change. That's not true. That is not true. Your genetics have something to do with your phenotype, but you can change the way you look without changing your genetics. So do you want to read phenotype off and then the audience will hear because you. I see you clicking and clacking.

[Monét X Change]

No, I wasn't. I was, I was, I was googling the definition of phenotype.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, read it. I say that sometimes you click into it. Read it.

[Monét X Change]

The phenotype is the term used to describe the observable characteristics of an organism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you read it so people can understand what you're saying?

[Monét X Change]

Nigga, calm the fuck down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hate when you ask somebody.

[Monét X Change]

Well, you can calm down. You can ask politely in a motherfucking polite way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Read it. Read it. Right.

[Monét X Change]

Anyway, phenotype is a term used to describe the observable characteristics of an organism, including its physical appearance, behavior and development. And then your phenotype can change over time due to environmental factors, even though your genotype, your genetic makeup, AKA remains the same. So your phenotype changes like phenotypic plasticity. That's what that. That's what that term is called. Phenotypic Splasticity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So examples of phenotype include height, eye color, hair color, blood type, behavior, and presence or absence of certain diseases. So that's what I mean when I say your phenotype does change over time. Michael Jackson is someone whose phenotype changed drastically right in front of our eyes. We watched Michael Jackson fully, well, look like almost a completely different person.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, when I, when, when I found out my 90s. What, by mid-90s, he was already white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right in the 80s he was white.

[Monét X Change]

So, so I didn't see his feelings. I changed this look the same to me all the time. But I did. But I never not knew that he wasn't black though. I always knew he was black. I don't know why. As opposed to Mariah Carey. I thought she was white, but I always knew Michael Jackson was black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I never, I didn't know Michael Jackson was black until I was maybe like eight.

[Monét X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because I remember we were watching the Jackson 5 movie and I remember asking my mom like, why is this? Because I knew, I knew that his sister was, was Janet Jackson and I knew I was also a child, so it just didn't register to me. But I knew that his sister was Janet Jackson. I knew who his parents were because they were always popping up and stuff. But it just never occurred to me. I was like, maybe he's adopted. I just, it just as a child, I just was never thinking about why his family was black and he was white. You know what I mean? It's like when, it's like when I went. It's like when a kid watches Brandy, Cinderella. No one is asking why her dad is Asian. Oh yeah, the mom's Asian, her dad's white. Everyone's like, yeah, it is what it is. That was me as a kid, right? And then I was like, well, why is this young? I was like, I remember asking my mom, why is this black kid playing Michael Jackson? And my mom was like, Michael Jackson's black. And I was like, what?

[Monét X Change]

Michael Blackson?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she was like, Michael Jackson is black. And I was like, that does not make sense to me. And she was like, he turned. And she was like, well, he turned white, Ellie. What do you mean he turned white? And she's like, chris, he just turned white. I don't know what to tell you. He turned white. And I was like, how? And she like, he's kept getting lighter and lighter. And then one day he was white. I was like, what is happening? But even though Michael Jackson phenotypically looked white, that does not make him white. Michael Jackson was black until the day he died.

[Monét X Change]

Correct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black.

[Monét X Change]

Correct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that was the conversation I was trying to have. And then, but then it went into TikTok debate land, which is, you should join me one time.

[Monét X Change]

I'm not interested in debating people on TikTok. I mean, if it wasn't something I was really passionate about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You debate me. You can't shut the fuck up when it comes to me. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Cause you're often wrong. If it was something that I wanted to really have to go in on TikTok, I would, but I don't know what that conversation would be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would never join me for a 10 year debate. Not even for fun. Not even for. Not even for one little moment.

[Monét X Change]

I had to be contingent upon what the topic is that I'm passionate about. Enough to argue and debate people about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, then why don't you tell me.

[Monét X Change]

The conversation someone will come up with. It does not take too much to get you riled up. Someone will call this guy Cerulean. Bob was like, no, it's. No, it's lapis. Like, no, it's cerulean. But I was like, you get passionate about that. I would like. Okay. Anyway, moving on. I don't care.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I would love to see some of the energy here on this podcast. I would love to see some of the energy here on this podcast. I've never seen any evidence of that behavior.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, because you know what? Yeah, I'm passionate about what? I'm talking about that work. You got me. Surprise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm at work. I want to be clear, y'all, Mon does not turn this off when the podcast turns off. Monet can't lie to y'all. But I've been there. We, we were, y'all, we were sitting at the dinner table talking about the size of my hands. You're passionate about the size of my hands?

[Monét X Change]

Yes. Because of it has come on topic here on this podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, we were not being paid.

[Monét X Change]

Down. Put down. Stop waving that big ass hand in front of the screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, we were not paid to discuss the size of my hands. So in one day, he's like, oh, so. So I've already poked three holes in your little theory. You don't have to be passionate. You don't even have to be getting paid. So now what's your next lie? What's the next lie you want to espouse to our, to our delightful listeners anyway? Did I use that word properly?

[Monét X Change]

Probably not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Think I used it right. Espouse. Espouse means adopt or support. He turned his back on the modernism he has espoused in his youth. Yeah, I think I use it right.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, it's a little touch and go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you like to use espouse properly?

[Monét X Change]

I don't know what the word means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I literally just read it to you.

[Monét X Change]

Read it again, nigga.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Adopt or support a cause, belief or way of life.

[Monét X Change]

You know, I have espoused Christianity because I feel like it has really made my life better, smarter, greater and more decent than yours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one of us is more likely to convert to Christianity before we pass away?

[Monét X Change]

Probably me, honestly, but I don't think I would. I would convert in the way that you do, though. I feel like if you converted to Christianity, you. Yeah, you would be up in the thing leading sermons. You would convert to Christianity so you could become a pastor and lead a church. And I would do it and I would just come to church once a week. You would convert, try to be the deacon, the pastor. That's what you would do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'd be the deacon and the pastor and the first lady and the usher.

[Monét X Change]

That is something you would try to do. So Monet and I, if we were like a thousand years ago, I could see you trying to start a religion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If we were like a thousand years ago, I want.

[Monét X Change]

Today, if I want to you 100%. That is so you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to say that Monet and I went to the Madison Square Garden theater to see a wonderful production of Annie Charlie. Oh, good. So Monet had never seen Annie before.

[Monét X Change]

I seen like clips from the movies. Like the Carol Burnett movie, namely. I didn't. Bob said there were four of them. I didn't know. The only one I've seen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I know of three. There's Kathy Bates, Kara Burnett and Cameron Diaz.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't see that one. All I saw was only the Cameron. The Cara Burnett one, which is a brilliant movie. Carol Burnett is so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't support K'Vasane Wallace?

[Monét X Change]

I don't know. Devosinet Cavazane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was the black Annie Cavoisier.

[Monét X Change]

Kavangenet. Who? The little girl who played Annie in the Carol Burnett movie. Like, where is she now? Does she still do Susie? I wonder. You mean Susie Carol.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If Annie were a real person, she'd be 102 years old. 103 years old this year. Cause Annie was born in 1922. Has it been a while?

[Monét X Change]

Her name was. Oh, Eileen Quinn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she go on to do more Stuff.

[Monét X Change]

Let's see. Eileen quinn movies and TV shows. She did the Frog Prince in 1986. The wizard of Oz. Oh, she was in the wizard of Oz. It's a cartoon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But who was she? Dorothy.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, she's Dorothy in it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she came back. Oh, no. Carol Burnett is just a documentary. She was on Will and Grace in.

[Monét X Change]

2020 and she was in multiple sarcasms in 2010. Oh, Jacob, pull it up here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So how did you. So as a New Yorker, how did you feel about Annie? Did you relate to Annie? Were you like, I love this hard, this tough New York City kid?

[Monét X Change]

No, I was not. I did not have an Annie experience. I wasn't an orphan in New York City. I was an orphan in St. Lucia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But like the toughness of her, like the toughness.

[Monét X Change]

But this Annie wasn't tough. The Annie in the movie that we. In the 19, the Carol Burnett movie, that was a tough Annie. She was like going up to the girl, I'll give you a knuckle sandwich. This Annie, she wasn't that aggressive. That Annie was me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Carol Burnett. Annie ran a very tight ship. Those girls, she had those girls shook.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, she had them scared. Shook, panicking mannequin, those fucking. Also those, those girls in that Annie, in the Annie movie, these bitches were gymnasts. They were washing the floor, doing aerials, somersaults, doing bat flips, like, and that, that, the choreo in that movie is so. Well, those are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Those people doing backflips were probably adults. So during the show, I kept telling there, there was a bunch of orphans on stage. And then there's this one, there's this one. And I kept, and I kept being like, that's a grown woman. And Monet was like, no. I said, mon, that is a fully grown woman.

[Monét X Change]

I was like, no, Bob, maybe she's like, maybe 13, 14. She's not a grown woman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I know when they do they do this often, they will cast one very young looking adult to be with the kids, just to kind of keep them on track and like, if, if the kids ever, like feel shaky and choreography, they can look over and see when. When like older professional dancer doing it right? But then we went backstage to talk to Whoopi Goldberg after the show. And then unprovoked, we were talking about the orphans and how great they were, like, man, these kids are great. And then Whoopi goes, yeah, there's one 25 year old woman in there dancing.

[Monét X Change]

I was like, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, so y'all, sometimes Monet chooses not to Believe stuff just because I said it.

[Monét X Change]

That's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have tested this theory before without you knowing it. Monet can have another person say, I will have another person say something. And then when I would be like, that's when.

[Monét X Change]

When was this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not gonna tell you my sources.

[Monét X Change]

Anyway, it didn't ever happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just know that me and the people around you, we collude against you.

[Monét X Change]

Just know that what it is that oftentimes we see in the podcast, Bob says something is not true. So I'm just not gonna believe and not with you say stuff is not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's you.

[Monét X Change]

Not with any of my friends. I don't just take things when someone says something, I'm like, oh, that could be true. There are also many times when you said something, like many examples of you saying something. I'm like, okay, I just believe you. Like last episode, talking about some Lisa Kudrow made post its or whatever. I was like, okay, sure. That is not true. I didn't argue against it because you said it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it sounds like it was a reference to the movie Romeo Michelle High School Reunion. Her character said that she invented post its. It was a reference.

[Monét X Change]

I don't know. But I walked away from that conversation thinking, oh, Lisa Kudrow invented postits. She would have worked. I didn't know. So there is, there is proof of me not just saying that because I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it's, wait, how long did you go around believing Lisa Kudrowinta poses?

[Monét X Change]

You just say, how wong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How long did you go around thinking Lisa Kudrow adventure posters?

[Monét X Change]

A few days now. The episode came out like a week ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never see Romeo High School Romance High School Reunion?

[Monét X Change]

No, I haven't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So in the, in the, in the movie, Lisa Cudjoe's character, it has not done a lot with her life. And she's embarrassed that she hasn't done a lot with her life. She's like embarrassed by not accomplishing a lot. And everyone's going to hospital reunion. And then they're like, what have you done? And she was like. And then she randomly lied and goes, I invented post its. And everyone's like, what? She goes, yeah, I fully invented post its. And then at the party, I think maybe Alan Cummings character, someone was. Someone got around. They were like, tell us how you invented post its. And then randomly she actually like scientifically explained the process of, of creating an adhesive that would stick to this but unstick from that without leaving a residue. And then everyone's like, oh, yeah, we believe you you must have invented post its. And then she was kind of like, who.

[Monét X Change]

Have you ever seen the episode of Sex and City when Carrie gets broken up with by a post it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A post? No, no. Was it Big Daddy?

[Monét X Change]

Did he write on a post it Mr. Big? No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Mr. Big.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. It was some other guy she was fucking, and he was like, sorry, I can't. Don't hate me. It was Burger. I don't know what. I don't know that actor's name. His name is Zach Burger or Jack Burger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Before I. Before we end this podcast, can you please. I've never. I've only seen one episode of Sex and City. Can you tell me who I'm supposed to be in Sex and City?

[Monét X Change]

You're definitely, without a shadow of a doubt, unequivocally, you're Miranda. 100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you tell me a little bit about Miranda?

[Monét X Change]

Miranda's a lesbian. She's a lawyer. She is. So she's very methodical, very pragmatic, but that leads to a lot of love loss because she's almost too cerebral when she. She can't just let herself just be in love. She's just, like, so trying to, like, break it down. Like, every little thing that. That her partner does, she kind of nitpicks at it, and it leaves her going back and forth, and they get married in the end. But then she. She becomes a lesbian in the movies. I mean, in the chat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Comment below. Tell me, do you think I'm a Miranda? Now? Monet doesn't really watch Golden Girls, and I say this, but Monet does not believe me. Monet is Bob. That is a Bob outfit.

[Monét X Change]

That's Miranda.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet is Rose Nylan from Golden Girls.

[Monét X Change]

Why am I Rose? Can you tell me more about Rose?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she's a little ditzy. She.

[Monét X Change]

She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes she's not as quick on the pickup as the other girls are, but she also has a very cheery disposition. She leads with happiness and kindness. She has an innocence and sweetness to her, but she can also still be quite biting when it. When it comes down to it.

[Monét X Change]

So you think I'm stupid? I'm a stupid. Happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not as intense as Rose Nyland Rosen is. Like, doesn't know anything. Like, not nothing, but, like, she knows a lot about. Really. She knows a lot about, like, pig farming and small towns and. What's the name of her town in.

[Monét X Change]

Her town's called Andalusia, Alabama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Jay, can you Google the name of Rosen? Islandstown. It's called Oz. I can't remember it. But she knows a lot about, like, farm life and that kind of stuff. But she. But she doesn't have a lot of worldly smarts outside of that. You know what I mean? Even though St. Olaf. Yeah. They were to say Olaf. I think she's a librarian. I think. I think Rose is a librarian. I'm almost positive she's librarian because she ended up losing her job down the line anyway, so. Comment below. Am I Miranda. Is Monet? Rose Nyland? What's Miranda's last name? Cosgrove.

[Monét X Change]

No. Miranda Hobbs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hobbs. Do you know Miranda Cosgrove?

[Monét X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's icarly.

[Monét X Change]

Oh. I wasn't an art car. I wasn't. I was not an icarly girl. It was after my time. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a little long the tooth for icarly. Well, Monet. No, I was saying I was wrapping it up. You weren't wrapping it up.

[Monét X Change]

The great conversation and.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was wrapping it up.

[Monét X Change]

You enjoy your break? I was wrapping it up, Whatever it was. I'll see you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm wrapping this up. Thank you, everyone.

[Monét X Change]

Hopefully, I don't see the new year. Honestly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is the new year, bitch.

[Monét X Change]

I know. And hopefully I don't see you in it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can make that happen for sure.

[Monét X Change]

How?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you blinded. And that's how you won't see me in the new year. Goodbye, everyone.

[Monét X Change]

That's very dark. You evil fucking village.