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Ep 337. Catching Up with Cornell Mack: Spring Rush, Live Events & What's Next at Equip Expo
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Are you ready to kick back and get inspired? Grab your favorite drink, pop the top and join the side Hustle Squad with Mike Garvey and Larry Delisante. This podcast is the perfect resource for anyone who's already started their side hustle or is just considering taking the lead. With in depth interviews featuring guests from the green industry and beyond, you'll gain valuable insights and learn what it takes to succeed in running a business while juggling a full time career. From personal, personal stories to practical tips, the side Hustle Squad podcast has everything you need to turn your passion into a thriving business. Now, here's your side Hustle Squad hosts, Mike Garvey and Larry Delisante.
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B
Hey, what's going on guys? It's your host, Mike Garvey with the side Hustle Squad podcast coming at you from the Branded Bull studio here in Louisville, Kentucky. We are here not for Equip Expo but for a big event with Relco. Larry, how are you?
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C
Great.
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B
We are here with our good friend Cornell Mack. Sir, how are you?
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D
I'm good, brother.
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B
You just got in?
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D
Yes. Yeah.
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B
Good to see you. How was your flight?
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D
It was dope, man. Rolko, they took care of the guys, you know what I mean? They did got us down here and we are in Louisville. It's a little bit overcast, but it's warm.
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B
It's quiet here. There's like, like the city's quiet. There's not like. But we're here.
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D
It's not like yeah, we come down here for equipment is everything is loud and laugh.
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B
Yeah.
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D
Oh yeah, yeah.
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B
You're just running. There's just people everywhere. There's dealers, there's manufacturers, there's other landscapers. This is like, oh, it's just cool, you know, relax.
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D
And the Moxie Hotel is just, it's awesome ambiance of it is.
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B
And it's all tied into distillery, right. So like you could just walk across that. It changes hotels on your floor and then realize like, oh this it's all like connected. So very cool. But so what's going on? What's. How's your spring been? How's your spring rush? What's new?
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D
It's been good, man. We've actually scaled back a little bit this year off of maintenance because I realized that we were completely packed with maintenance and it wasn't leaving any time to do any more to high ticket nice type jobs, you know, motion stalls, plan installs, things like that. We were, we. So we basically I was doing a contract for I don't know how but we got under bid by 1800 bucks. And so, you know, business is business,
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B
and they're turning no profit.
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D
Yeah, whoever's doing it, man, God bless you. God bless you. Because, you know, I feel like my prices, even on that contract could have been higher. Yeah. But I was. It was a lot of property. So. Yeah, it is what it is. We lost that. And. And then I was just like, all right, well, how do I recoup that? What we lost was, like, 30 yards. Like, how do I recoup that? And then I. When I really did the math, it's like, we got jobber. And it's dope because you could see everything, your time. And I went back, and I, like, looked at all the data that I've collected over the last two and a half, three years of doing that, that contract. And when I went back and looked at it, I was like, yo, basically, long story short, we were doing 25 to 28 hours a week in maintenance to do those properties. And when I look back at it was like, the properties varied from, you know, our minimum, which is 65, up to 220, but when you really broke it down over the hours, it was really basically 73 or $73 per yard.
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C
Okay.
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D
Right. And so when I looked at that, I was like, all right, for us to that, we gotta. We gotta map that out over the course of the entire season. Right. So you go from taking us 25 hours to do that. 25 to 30 hours. Let's go ahead and round up, because it always takes a little longer than you thought. So 30 hours times a week, times 30 weeks. I ain't gonna do the math right here. It came up to, like, 1400 hours, right? Yeah. And then when I looked at it, I said, you know, if we just had a minimum price of 1500 bucks on a small landscaping job. When I say small, I mean, like, I'm not trying to do paver, patio, nothing like.
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A
Right.
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D
No hardscaping type of stuff. Just soft.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And so 1500 bucks, 42 jobs, we get the same amount of money. And here's the. Here's the crazy thing. I don't think a lot of people. I mean, the bigger companies do. I'm talking about guys who are like, me. I got one guy.
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B
Yeah.
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D
It's just me and Captain Jack. I don't think we. A lot of us really look at. All right? I'm using my time here, and I'm. I'm doing maintenance, right. And you hear people talk about this as they get bigger and they Try to go into other facets of what we do. But when I really looked at the thing, I was like, man, it's taking 1400 hours to do that, to make this amount of money. Right. And so if it's taking 1400 hours, if we was just to say, all right, we're going to do these 42 jobs and each job we want to last no longer than three to five hours.
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B
Yeah.
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D
Then you're doing, you're making the same amount of money that was taking 1400 hours in 150 hours or 225 hours.
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B
Right. Something, man.
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D
427 hours, no matter what. If it took you 10 hours, you're doing 420 hours versus 1400. And then you got to think about this. I gotta pay for the gas to get to all of those different places, all of the wear and tear equipment. Right. And so me and Captain Jack, we've been pulling up, boom. We got eight yards of mulch in the back, in the back of the trailer. We got a couple plants out here. And now I'm just going in, dropping on. We, we making, you know, $2,000 in three hours. That's huge. 2905 hours. And it's like, yeah, once I seen that and then, and then it actually started happening because we just don't know what we don't know. I've been doing this for 10 years and I was doing what I like to do because early on I had a bad experience doing a landscaping job when I had no experience. Right now I'm a 10 year vet, bro. Yeah, right. I know. I got equipment to do this stuff. You know what I'm saying?
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B
Yeah.
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D
So we could do it easier. And I was like, yeah, you know, my whole reason for starting a business in the first place was I was working two full time jobs and I was missing my entire family's life, my daughters and my son. My wife was. So I want to get all of the time back as much as I can. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to go straight solely to doing landscaping stuff because that's not really what I like to do. I enjoy the mowing part.
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B
Yeah.
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D
However, if I want to get that time back, there's other ways that you can do it. And so now we're just sort of going through a, sort of a restructuring year too, to, to be more profitable. And, and yeah, like a reset.
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B
When did you come over, come to this, like, revelation over the winter. Just analyzing the numbers.
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D
Yeah. So when I lost that contract, they waited to tell Me. So it took a while and I'm sitting here like, yo, I don't, I can't really take on more properties maintenance wise until I find out what we're going to do with this.
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B
Okay.
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D
And then it finally came and it was like, yeah, we don't even really want, we don't want to be disrespectful. So you've done a phenomenal job. But our fiscal department says we have to go with this. Right? Which is business, bro. Yeah. A week over the course of 34 weeks, 35 weeks.
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C
It's a lot of money there.
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D
That's a hell of a lot of money.
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C
But that's a lot of, that's a. Listen, that is a big money difference. So something's missing.
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D
That's what I said.
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B
Are we comparing? Yeah. Are we comparing? Yeah, like your services, his sir. Like, like what is something. You know?
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D
Well, stripes are stripes. I just feel like even if he goes up, whoever it is, he or she, whoever they are, if they go up there and they, they could do a phenomenal. They could do just as good of a job as me. They're probably early on in their business when they just don't understand. Yeah. Maybe they just left jobs, whoever they are. Like I was when I was making 18 bucks an hour. I was like, if I charge 30 bucks, I'm making money. So maybe that's what they're. You know what I mean? Maybe they haven't established the 20, 26 minimums that we all know because we do this right and we talk to a lot of people all over the country and even the world. So. I know, right. But this person might only have their grandfather or whoever or maybe their own experiences and they're not doing things yet. And so they might still be a thirty dollar guy. They are still out there, believe it or not. There's still those 30, $35 guys out there who are basically doing a disservice to the game. So it got me. But that's fine, right? Because at the end of the day, my April this year was more lucrative than my April last year with all the maintenance. And so I've already seen.
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B
Yeah. The difference.
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D
The difference.
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C
Yeah.
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D
And so more power to, to those folks who, who was able to do that. But hey, in this business you're going to get under bid. Sometimes you can't take it personal. Sometimes you just got to make that, that pivot.
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B
How was the, the win in life event?
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D
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it sucks, you guys.
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B
I know, I know.
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D
But it was dope. We had 127 people sign up, which was. When you come to equip, it's like, yeah, there's 30, 000 people. They are like me. They all want to come to the different various events that are down here. It's easy to get. It's easy. You're to get a big number. Yeah. When you're here.
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B
When you're.
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D
But in Pittsburgh, I was. It's been growing by about 50% year after year since I've been doing the Winning Life Meetup. But last year, we had probably like 65 attendees. We probably had like 87 or so sign up and only about 60. But this year we had 127 people sign up, and we had like around 115. And how I know that is because I. We had a lemonade sponsor who's my younger brother. He started eliminating stands. Killing it, bro. Wow. So there's a lot of businesses out there that we create. Right. But I asked him to come. I wanted to be support him and his new business. And when he came out, we just gave everybody a drink ticket. That was like my gift.
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C
Yeah, nice.
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D
I come, he makes these lemonades, and so I paid him out, but everyone got a drink ticket. And that's kind of how we knew if you came here.
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A
Yeah, right.
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D
And he had 100, I think 16. So we grew another 50% there. And. Yeah. So next year is going to be even better because it's going to be the Winning Life weekend. I'm going to do a conference next year.
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B
Your own conference?
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D
Yeah. We have a hotel already that is currently being renovated. It's where the actual event happens. It's a conference room in there. So next year, I look to do it even bigger and better where we'll have a Win in Life weekend.
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B
So same weekend, like the. The.
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D
It's like a week or so before the seasons, two weeks before the season starts.
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B
Right.
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D
This year we always do my Rock Paper scissor tournament. It's called the Rock Paper Scissors Showdown. This year, I debuted a cornhole challenge.
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B
Cool.
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D
So people stood there and they. They threw cornhole bags. We had a couple winners. But next year we're gonna have. And let me explain real quick, Mike. I'm sorry, I'm all over the place. But. So Thursday night, Naylor brought his inner circle people in. So they came from wherever they're all from. They came in and we had like a dinner with Naylor. He had his inner circle. He had an inner circle dinner. Me, him, triplet pay Jack and his Inner circle people went to this steakhouse that was on Thursday that's excluded from the event, but that happened this year. Okay. So and then Friday night there's a place called Permani Brothers. I don't if you've been around Pittsburgh, there's a couple locations in Florida, a couple in. In Ohio. But they, it's a Pittsburgh based restaurant and they have these things called the Almost Famous sandwiches, which is bread. And then you'd have some sort of protein, meat, whatever kind. And then they put coleslaw and french fries on the sandwich. It's like a, like a trucker sandwich. So I took everybody there so they could taste Pittsburgh. Right?
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B
Yeah, Right. That's awesome.
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D
There's about 25 people came to that. And then that night the inner circle people, we went bowling. And so then we got to the actual event. And at the event, like I said, there was a lot of people there. We provide lunch and drink for, for everyone. And then people bring their setups in. So I think we probably had like 30 setups or so total. Like I said, about 115 people came. And this year coming up, we're going to do on Saturday morning, we're going to have from 8 to either noon or 1. I'm going to have some speakers come in because this is a kickoff for the spring. The spring. Yeah. We want to. Yeah, let's get going into everything feeling like they are supposed to win in life, that they can win in life, and then giving them that energy that they need to start off and hit the ground running there in that spring rush. So we're going to have some powerful, some powerful speakers and then we'll do the actual event. And then that Saturday night I'm going to rent out this place called Zone 28 where they have a private bowling alley.
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B
Oh, cool.
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D
And we'll do our strike Challenge there. So next year you're going to get a whole entire weekend of. Of events.
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B
Well, we won't be under the time crunch that we were this year. Trailer is going to be built out very. We're still working on it. If we can bring our Crest dealership trailer out to their. Out to you and show everybody what we got going on. We'd love to. We'd love to do that.
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C
Yeah, we're pretty that we couldn't get there.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And I don't want to speak too soon, but you know, I am, I'm rocking with Crest now, so there's a good chance that they'll probably be involved next year. And I'm Looking to get, you know, some other good sponsors because I want to really set people. The whole premise is in this industry, we can all win in life. I mean, you could win in life no matter what you're doing, but in this industry you really can. And if you have the proper equipment, you got the right relationships, the proper network around you, you got good, positive people around you, it's almost a guarantee that you can do this right now. It's not a guarantee. We can't guarantee anything in this world. But if you get yourself surrounded with the right people, you got the right equipment, you got the right mindset, and you got folks around you that are all pushing in that same direction, man, then you're almost guaranteed that you're going to win in life.
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E
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B
How has your experience with Crespin starting out with the battery powered equipment?
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D
It's phenomenal, bro. I like, I already knew this stuff was good. You know, Mike, we've been with Larry, we go to a whole lot of different things. We've seen Chris, we've talked to all of the people in their management team, their R and D people, their marketing people. So I already knew this stuff was good, but I never got to use it in a real world setting. Yeah, I got to use it down at the Long Care life. Long Care life that they.
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B
Yeah, I've get.
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D
I've got to use it at Equip Expo. I've got to use it at other events, but never in the real world. Like you don't know is this. Yeah, it's cool. It feels powerful. But when I get to the property,
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B
I want to be on the house.
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D
Am I going to be able to do my entire house without running out of the battery right And I can attest that. You can. And even if you can't, as long as you got two batteries, that thing is going to be charged and ready to go when this one dies. And the coolest thing to me is it's quiet. Yeah, it's quiet, and there's no vibration. So I ain't sitting here trying to keep up for Chris. I work with them. I guess we can be considered a little bit biased, but at the end of the day, battery is here, gas is going. If you don't switch now, now we're
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B
gonna be behind the game.
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D
You're gonna be behind. And guys like me who are going to be promoting this, hey, we do quiet. Yeah. You work from home.
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B
I'll be quiet.
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D
These guys are gonna be out here. Yeah. With them big, loud blowers and those trimmers. Yeah. When you're on, I'm gonna be out here like this. You don't even hear right now. The mowers are a different thing. Those are. You know, I mean. But yeah, eventually, hopefully, we'll. I'll get to that as well. But, yeah, I mean, this press stuff is absolutely incredible.
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C
What I noticed with the crust stuff, too, is like. Like the other day, I was doing a head trimming, right. And you know, you put the backpack on, right. And they're heavy. Like, backpacks are heavy. So you're trying to blow the top of bushes off. It sucks. I take the little handheld, one crest handheld, and I go and I blow all the tops of bushes off. It's not blowing them up because you're getting your ladder. I didn't have to be on the ladder. I just hold it up like this, man. I know I'm short, bro. That's short stroke, man.
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B
I know.
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C
No, but seriously, just where go. If it's a high bush, you get out.
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B
But were you trimming a bonsai tree?
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C
Yeah,
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this is what gets called. You don't know.
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C
You know, like, always trimming your bald head, you know? But the thing's awesome, man. Like, and it doesn't pull the branches up because you're blowing down on it. You're not, like, trying to blow through it. So I used that yesterday. I was doing a trim, and I was like, just real quick, boom. All the tops of the bushes, and we used the blowers, the backpacks underneath them, you know? But I just ordered another one now, like, two seconds ago.
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D
It's great. The whole thing is that the batteries are all interchangeable. Now, obviously, you ain't gonna put the one that goes in the backpack. Blower in the mower, on the back of your trimmer.
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A
Right.
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D
I don't even know if it fits. But yeah, the small batteries, I was just. I told you guys earlier before, like
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B
the cube one, the nano.
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D
You got the nano and then you got the eight minute one.
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B
Yes.
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D
That charges the nano one for people. Just so you know, that doesn't charge in eight minutes, but it's like 12.
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B
Yeah.
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D
You know, it's there. And then the other one, eight minutes on the supercharger. But all of them will charge under 25 minutes. So no matter.
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B
All you don't need 800 batteries.
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D
Basically you need two. If you get the two bigger ones that are bigger than nano one, you only need two of them per person.
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B
Right.
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D
Because they're eight minute chargers. So as soon as you're done, it's going to pop it off. But like I said, all of the batteries are interchangeable. So it's funny because I didn't know the. We had a Crest guy. Why is his name escaping me? He came to do. He knows you guys. He's on Chad. So he came, he brought the Crest trailer. He was basically coming to give me information, train me how to use a cyber tank and all of that stuff. And I didn't realize that the white. Obviously it's a white battery. The word battery is in it. But I didn't realize that the white battery, that has 1600amp hours or 1500amp hours that you could strap that on the backpack. We will put that in the lawnmower. I didn't. So when he walked up and he had. He was. Because he was showing us the Voyager and it was cutting like a foot long grass. So it did pretty good. Yeah. Considering that it's a foot long grass. But it. Because it's. There's no discharge. It just discharges under it or whatever. It's a little caked up where it stopped. And so he went and grabbed his blower and he. He blew it off. And I was like, you could use the white battery. He was like, yeah. And I was like, oh. So I was telling Captain Jack the next day, I said, so look, you could use this white battery or you could use this red battery in the backpack or the. Or the lawnmower.
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B
Right.
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D
And then the nano battery and the. And the. I don't even know what this other one's called, the bigger one. I said, you could use those on the trimmers, the blowers and whatever. So he said, all right. So I seen him blowing with the, with the backpack blower on and then we turned around, it would just have the little nano red battery in it. And I was like, no, wait, hold up. I ain't even think to do that. He was like, yo, this is so light. I just blew off five houses.
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C
Yeah.
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D
And now he blew off the five houses on the lowest setting. Because all of these equipment has at least two settings.
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C
Yeah.
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D
The trimmers have two, hedge trimmers have, I think three. And then the long runner, the lower has four. Like, they all. So you could change the power level.
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B
You don't need to go.
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D
And then you can feather it too. So I'm on for. The trimmer is so powerful that I'm literally on the lowest setting and I'm feathering it so it's not full blown.
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C
Well, not to cut you, but like, I. I did all this research on this stuff like last year and then this year coming in, like, I. I was talking about my employee handbook. I actually have about crest in there. The blowers do not go past level one for cutting. And the weed whackers do not go past level one. You'll break. Less windows, less power. You don't need to go past it. It trims just as well. And the B all day. And it's all because if you put that thing to level five, like, it's like four. It's like the battery's like. Because you're like. But you don't need it. Like, why, why do you have that for long? You don't need it, you know, so.
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D
Right.
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C
You're right. Level one for everything. Law maintenance, everything. Level one.
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D
You want to stand back a little bit and because you don't want to walk. Everything for blowing. Then just blow this up. That's close. You hit that thing a couple times. Blow the stuff that's far and then turn it off and you're done. But like I said, Captain Jack said, this is funny. He said, you know, I. I was doing this even longer than you, you know, and he has. He's working at some lawn care company for 30 years now. He's my guy. But he was like, and I'm just stuck in my ways. And I was just like, well, you don't have to get unstuck because this stuff is so good that, like, there's no reason for us. And I said, not only that, for you to keep using the gas power stuff because you're used to it doesn't mean I don't have to pay for the gas.
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C
Yeah, right.
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B
And the carbs, I said.
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D
So I said to him, I Said, look here, Jack, I feel you, bro. You got until that gas runs out of natural, that's it. That runs out. I'm not filling it back up and you gonna have to switch over to the batteries. And he knows, he sees it too. He's like, nah. Yeah, this stuff is good. So like my man Captain Jack, he has a little bit of. And this is not even to be disrespectful, he just, he thinks in like the past, right? Like he thinks, right. Gas is, is better, right? Everybody, guess what? The dinosaurs used to be.
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B
And they're extinct.
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D
And they're extinct, no doubt. And this carbureted stuff is going away, like it or not, man. In California it's already gone. In Maryland they have started the process. You can't use blowers there.
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C
So. Yep, I have a 10 foot sess of our shop filled with all carburetor stuff. Air filters, fuel filters, carburetors, carburetor lines, mix, oil, that's all going to be gone. I don't need it. Yeah, there's no reason to have all that there.
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D
It's all going to be gone and there's no maintenance. And if we just, if we just did the math. I run a two person cruise. So last year the math has to be off yet. Last year because I don't have this year's data yet.
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B
Right.
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D
When we're doing less properties. Right. So last year we were, we were spending about $3,000 just in fuel for how much trimming and blowing. Hedge trimming.
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B
For your small engine.
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D
For our small engine stuff. Right. So that's just fuel for the year, three grand. Then we're spending about 800 a year. Closer to 900 for the echo red arm 2.5 gallon mix. Yeah, I was getting a 48 pack off Amazon. I think it was like 216 or something. So we're close to 900 or close to 800 and 50 bucks or whatever. Close to 900 on that. So you just look at, that's $4,000. Right.
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B
It's savings.
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C
So then the time of filling them
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D
and then the time of filling him, that's another thing. I'll touch on that here.
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B
Right. And filling them.
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D
Yeah, you gotta fill up those things. Then when you get, when you, when the trimmer runs out. This was funny. He's still using the gas ones. And I don't know if you guys know Marty McKay from Wheat Rise Property Services, but he was telling me like if there's two guys. If there's two guys and let's just say they're 100. They're a football field away from the truck. One runs out of the battery, one runs out of the gas. They walk back at the same pace. They both get to the truck at the same exact time. It's me and Captain Jack. I got the battery, he got the gas. He gotta feel his stuff up. You know what I gotta do to pop a battery? Pop a battery, pull it out, put the other one back in, and I'm out. Captain Jack gotta unscrew the thing, pull that out, get the gas off, put the gas in like Mar. This is Marty's words. Probably spill some, right?
- [26:16]
B
Yeah, probably.
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D
Yeah, probably spill some, then put the stuff back in, turn it on while
- [26:23]
B
your labor is right, tighten it back
- [26:26]
D
up, press the ball five times, pull it on, choke two times, and then pull it one. I'm telling you right now, my trim trimmers ain't starting on one pool. Yep, they ain't. It's 2, 3, 4 maybe, right? Because I don't care about them trimmers.
- [26:40]
B
So they're gone.
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D
Pulled out four times now. I'm telling you right now, by the time Jack does all that, I'm already back where I was and I'm halfway done trimming.
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A
Right?
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D
Trimming.
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C
That's true.
- [26:53]
D
There's all of this time that is saved that we do not think about.
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B
Yeah.
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D
And it's that it's completely up. The gas takes you three minutes on average. And you do that four times a day. That's 12 minutes. 12 minutes a day times five, times 35 is how many hours that could have went back into your pocketbook or that you're paying investment to some other thing.
- [27:22]
C
That's 100.
- [27:23]
D
Right, right. So, yeah, I ain't just. Again, I ain't trying to cape up for.
- [27:27]
B
No, no, but I mean, your real life. Real life.
- [27:30]
C
It's real stuff.
- [27:31]
B
Experience. Well, let's wrap it up here. We're gonna grab some. Grab some lunch before we gotta head to the Relco event. Looking forward to that. And, yeah, we'll leave it there. Anything I left out?
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D
Nope. Y', all, you can watch Matt on the Attack with Mac live Mondays and Wednesday nights at 9pm Eastern on YouTube. And it also drops as a part as I got YouTube channel, Mac Landscaping and Lawn care, Instagram, all of that stuff, so.
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B
Well, thank you. Thank you. It's good to see you. Let's. Let's have a good, good day with the Rolko folks there.
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D
Go see a record.
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B
Let's do it.
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D
I've never seen Guinness before.
- [28:11]
B
Let's do it.
- [28:11]
D
I never drank Guinness before either. We ain't gonna start now, but we gonna see a record.
- [28:17]
B
All right, well, we'll leave it there. We'll kick it back to Mr. Producer.
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A
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